Big Fun In The Big Town (1986) | Old School Hip Hop Doc | Def Jam Biz Markie Mr. Magic Schoolly D
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- Big Fun in the Big Town is a Dutch music documentary made by the VPRO in 1986. It was directed by Bram van Splunteren and presented by Belgian TV presenter Marcel Vanthilt. The documentary was shot on location in New York City and consisted of two parts, one about rock singer Iggy Pop and the Stooges, the other about the American hip hop scene. The latter turned out to have a much bigger impact on the Dutch music scene and enjoys a cult classic status among hip-hop fans.
The documentary was made in September 1986 in eight days time and filmed in the streets of New York City. Vanthilt and his four Dutch colleagues had hired some body guards for protection from local street gangs. They managed to interview several important pioneers of early hip hop, including Run-D.M.C., LL Cool J, Doug E. Fresh, Grandmaster Flash, Roxanne Shante, Biz Markie, MC Shan, Russell Simmons, Mr. Magic, Schoolly D and The Last Poets. Grandmaster Flash showed his talents in scratching and DJing, Doug E. Fresh did beatboxing on a busy street corner in Harlem, New York and LL Cool J still lived with his grandmother at time of recording. The documentary crew literally arrived at a turning point for hip hop. Run-D.M.C. had just released the single "Walk This Way", their duet with the rock band Aerosmith, which would cause mainstream acceptance of the genre by a major white audience. Because of this element Big Fun in the Big Town still provides a unique time capsule. - Wikipedia
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This video is gold….. this original film belongs in a hip hop museum
No Doubt....
I agree ☝🏽
❤ no question.
The nostalgia is real, I was 10 years old when this came out. 80s and 90s were the best eras IMO.
I was 7 years old and never saw this documentary
You can't be that old beutiful!!! I was thirteen living in Newark nj.
I too was 10 years old in 1986. But in Cleveland, we DID like to hear about the ghetto on records. LL was buggin lol
Yeah, I was 7 I missed the 80s... Just playing outside all day long and listening to hip-hop
I was 11 years old in 86
When Roxanne started woppin when the Biz started beat boxing is a feeling I'm proud to know. That's real hip hop
Couldn't say it any better.👍🏾
I got chills on that
@@MAHONEYDRO so did I bruh
Real talk
12:45 💯❤️
Golden Girls winning a 1986 Emmy on TV at the beginning. RIP Betty White
I peeped that. Good catch! RIP to the great Betty White
@@jeterw75 YOU KNOW IT WAS A GREAT SHOW WHEN YOUNG KIDS WOULD WATCH IT
@@TLive-ji5wf Nothing but the truth bruh
@@TLive-ji5wf & laugh but still not get a lot of the innuendo 😉
And Schoolly D whether he knew it or not predicted what hip-hop has become… watered down, the rawness and talent is gone.
He saw that Little Richard and Chuck Berry became Poison and White Lion after 30 years. He knew the same fate awaited rap music
He was 1 billion percent correct.
I concur 👍🏾
Facts indeed!
Schooly D helped usher in an era of trash artists with his trash ass music.
I was 18 in 86 so i got to witnessed all the creativity going on in the city, i started watching this and felt like i was there again, thanks for bringing this to youtube.
I was 16 and I feel ya..
so im going to assume that being single male in the 80s was unheard of right?
Was you a Crack Head in the mid 80's ???
'84 to '86 was a magical time for hiphop as well as skateboarding. It was an exciting period to be a kid.
what about BREAK DANCING asshole ??????
The 80's era was unmatched.... *SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS POPPING OFF AT ONCE!!!!!*
I realized Europeans had more respect for American Black culture and music than White Americans in the 1980s. In the early 80s, I had cousins living in Belgium and France (my extended family is Haitian) and they knew more about hip hop and breakdancing than ME and I lived in, Brooklyn NYC. They told me about documentaries in France about the breakdancing culture on the West Coast and East coast. When they came to visit over Christmas break 1983, my cousins from France taught me how to breakdance! The only time you saw young people of color on television in the US was when they were reporting crime. Sometimes there would be a cringeworthy piece on the news about the "latest craze" hitting the urban ghetto called Rap! I remember when radio stations in NYC (like Z-100) would brag about NOT playing hip hop music.
Euro has Moor Black roots than u think ,p
Yeah Z 100 was wack juice but to be honest most blacks in our country don’t respect nor know anything about HipHop at all…
All the other European ran countries to this day have more of an appreciation of Hip Hop then the US.
A lot of the early rappers actually got a lot of influence from European musicians like Kraftwork and Steve Strange ect.
Yeah, they didn’t have to live there
1986 I was 12 years old, Born and raised in Brooklyn. These were the best days of my life. Thanks for this post and the memories. We had the best era in hip hop.
When the Decepticons ran Brooklyn ...
@@AB-fm2zn Omg yessss. Me and my girls had a run in with them one Easter coming from Coney Island . We all hid our jewelry.
I was there in BK too.. around the same age. Me and friends we used to break dance heavy. Then one summer my parents sent me to a sleep away camp. Met up with dudes there and began writing lyrics etc. If I really wanted it I could been deep in the rap game. I was around Beat miners in their early days
I guess you're right, but don't you have to overlook the crack epidemic.
@@freemn Believe it or not, kids do not look at situations as adults do and even in very trying times, manage to have fun and are adaptable. Hence many old heads saying that the 70s and 80s were the best of times and even Londoners that were kids during the war with German bombing at its peak, saying that their childhood was the best of times and gays looking back to the 80s at the height of Aids and homophobia being visceral, acknowledging how much Gay culture is boring , corporate and co- opted by earnest, no manners or boundaries having straights, even as homophobia is far less visceral.
By the way; it was adults taking the crack, not the kids and most families didn't have anybody in them that took crack. This need to identify with the worst in any time is a Millennial/Zoomer guilt trip that will not hold. People are allowed to be happy and look back o their childhoods with love. I can tell that you are a youngin'. Have some manners and respect and go about making sure that YOUR era is the shit and stop enabling adult media in making young people take on adult problems ( or pretend to) whilst making sure that you spend money doing it.
My fav hip hop doc. Young LL still living at his grams house
And the fact that he was only 17 or 18 here. An amazing time capsule of footage here.
Thats called a failure!! Dont be mistaken. Glad he had fun in the 80's though.
@@danfield6030 Wrong......Leaving the hood would have destroyed his creativity.
Mama said knock you out
@@danfield6030 LL is a failure?
Dougie Fresh is underrated as far as his swag and confidence. He is a true trendsetter
I saw him in the 80s perform in Tomorrowland at Disneyland and it changed my life
Lol......he is not underrated. Are you like 30 years old or younger ? He was the Tupac of his era man. Totally recognized.
@Caribbean Ín The House sure whatever....but its actually Disco....hip-Hop came from the DISCO CULTURE in reality dude. The djing and everything...it was a Disco thang
And its pronunciation is DOUG E FRESH
@@undersoundproduction836 6 minutes? 6 minutes doug e fresh ????
This may be the best rawest documentary that I've ever seen. When was the last time you saw a journalist go to LL's grandma house, and interview the legendary Last Poets? Absolute history. This is great.
grandma’s* house…
I realized Europeans had more respect for American Black culture and music than White Americans in the 1980s. In the early 80s, I had cousins living in Belgium and France (my extended family is Haitian) and they knew more about hip hop and breakdancing than ME and I lived in, Brooklyn NYC. They told me about documentaries in France about the breakdancing culture on the West Coast and East coast. When they came to visit over Christmas break 1983, my cousins from France taught me how to breakdance! The only time you saw young people of color on television in the US was when they were reporting crime. Sometimes there would be a cringeworthy piece on the news about the "latest craze" hitting the urban ghetto called Rap! I remember when radio stations in NYC (like Z-100) would brag about NOT playing hip hop music.
@@juniorjames7076 it's always been like that from slavery days through the Civil wars WWI WWII Jim crow Civil Rights era there's a lot of videos/movies out there with black soldiers talking about how white American soldiers would treat nazi pow like humans and the black soldiers like animals, mean while white Europeans would treat them like kings and for that thousands of black soldiers never come back to America.
WHOSE HOUSE? GRANDMA'S HOUSE!!!
I remember MTV interviewing L.L. & he dissed P.E. & said he doesn't want kids to get hype & angry & leave his show & punch the cab driver in the face. & he said that B.S. he said in this doc about not wanting to rhyme about what's going on in the hood.
& I love how right after that the video came in with the brother from The Last Poets talking about nursery school rap. Funny AF, cause the whole song My Adidas talks about nursery school characters we learned b4 kindergarten.
This is probably one of the greatest things that has been posted on this channel.
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Exactly. 😊
This documentary is pure 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 The Bronx stand up 💪🏾
Grand master flash cutting hard with the Jerry curl. Wow. History lesson. Incredible
I'm 50 years old I being listening and loving rap all my life, and every day I find something new, I never seen this documentary before, life is awesome keep rapping my friends.
ReelBlack literally NEVER disappoints never knew this doc existed 🔥🔥
The Mystery Crew was good son.
Easily one of the greatest early hiphop documentaries right next to Style Wars & LFTPB
@@kevindube7096 exactly I remember watching this early 2000s on VH1 docs changed my view on founding Legends like flash
caught this on pbs in late 80s and never stopped thinking about it
Mystery crew- street gangs. This is why I love hip hop. We need this era to return . Music with an authentic message and innocent energy.
They had one my favorite moments in the film
Yeah they killed that
@@Motivatedrich6 💯
Hip hop is played out, we need a new music form, it's up to the kids now.....
@@dizmop hip hop is a lifestyle..there's still sum artists Puttin out quality trax & full length Projects w/thought Provoking & Relatable subject matter..Regardless of how saturated the musical element is these Days w/this wack shit, the lifestyle will NEVER Play out.
Seeing a *SKINNY* Biz on stage with Roxanne was like a flashback!! #RIPBiz
Dougie dropping jewels still relevant today... And I wish gangs still felt that it was their duty to protect their neighborhoods.
No connection like that today, why ? Well one reason is no connection to this land. Lot of them NON FBA, they are from carribbean or africa. Ain't no direct connection to this land so they dont care if they mess up the hood
Man everybody in rap needs to see this.
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There should be a hip hop course before signing. Rip hip hop
@@errolonbryant1723 Absolutely there should be a class. This new hip hop killed the real hip hop!!
@@errolonbryant1723 i mean tell that to the heads that sold it to the highest bidder. get money, sure, but don't sell out the culture for it
@@ericreeves5893 this shit they call rap today is garbage
Legend has it that The Mystery Crew is still rapping outside of the Def Jam office till this very day.
ROTFLOL!!!!!
You know you ain't right.
Haaaaaaaaaaaa i was really feeling sorry for such sweet guys... but man, they didnt knew they was going to conquer the world in 2022...
What became of those two? They sounded great
Peace! Damn sun
Man, this brought back so many memories. There will NEVER be another era like the golden Hip-Hop/Rap era of the late 70's and 80's. The songs, clothes, jewelry, lingo. It was truly something special to us.
Yes, best era of rap and hip hop! New York New York!!
We need time machines invented already :/
TV like this is why the Netherlands used to be the best place in the world. Bram van Splunteren is such a king.
I love how LL is coming out his LL room acting as LL cool, all this legends was going on in real time i can't believe it... it was so natural for them... making history and loving it...
I was 22 in 1986, just returned home to LA from the Navy. Many dudes I went to school with were high rollers, selling crack. I wanted to do the same, but I didn't have what it took, fortunately. The rappers I listened to that summer were Whodini, Run DMC, Biz Markie, Rakim. Mostly east coast
Schoolly D's words at the end is exactly what happened to the genre 😪
We were there. It was a strange strange time in the tri-state area. This is just scratching the surface. We used to battle different rap crews in New York and New Jersey. Believe it or not, not too many kids wanted to be rappers. You HAD TO BE GREAT!
Classic Dutch documentary, shot in September 1986, directed by Bram van Splunteren and hosted by Marcel Vanthilt (from Belgium) • When I saw this on Dutch TV I fell completely in love with it and I still watch it very often to this day. Incredible piece of history ❤️🔥🔥
Someone handed me a promo VHS 📼 down the line and in 2012 I copped the DVD in the US. This def needs to be on all streaming platforms in HD or even a 4K transfer if possible 💯💯
Salute and infinite love & respect to all pioneers filmed for / in (and also all those who are not in) this documentary
RIP Biz Markie
Peaze BrainPower, Word Life...Classic Material 💯❤🔥💯 it still gives me da goosebumps, seeing it after 38 years Wow!!!...R.I.P. Da Biz Markie.... One
39:35. What Schooly D hoped back here in '85 would NOT happen to rap...35 years later has happened...lol. Rap died a long time
Yep. All American music died years ago. We have become a lazy, non-creative culture.
Right. We living to see that change. It got too pretty smh
This was dope! Brought back so many memories! Had me doing the Wop, the roger rabbit and the original DOUGIE! So glad I’m a 70’s baby! What a time to be ALIVE! I would have gave my right hand for an original Dapper Dan! But I had my Lee jeans, door knockers and super fat goose! ….ahhhh the good old days!
We need more old school videos like this, just when I thought I saw all the old school hip hop videos this comes along
1st generation hip-hop right here.. I was 10 years old in 1980.. it’s my culture it’s my music .. thank you to the Bronx kids of the 80’s
2nd Generation actually, these kids are the one's influenced by jams the like's of The Herculoids which were Kool Herc, Coke La Rock, Theodore Puccio, Clark Kent and the B Boys would throw!
This doc is a masterpiece and should be preserved in the Smithsonian.
Quadruple Encrypted with Vibranium and Titanium.
It’s amazing to be able to watch this now and see how the musicians and their music progressed ….
Huh? Music has not progressed, it is the worst music in history - even worse than when the record biz started!
It was like Soul from Heaven back then.....the new artists are still influenced by the momentum of that original time. Nowadays....artists are WACK A DACK MANN
@Caribbean Ín The House Hip Hop came from DISCO fool
Regression!!
@Caribbean Ín The House Hip-hop did not come from any Jamaican anything. it came from blak American music - which sounds nothing like any 3rd world Jamaican music, which is all knock-off music anyway.
I’m your old skool hip hop chic 🙋🏽♀️ right here, front center.
I gladly keep my SiriusXM subscription up to date for channel 43 LL Cool J’s Rock da Bells. The morning crew isn’t all that 😏 but Roxanne Shante took over our beloved brother Biz Markie’s 5pm spot & it’s on like hot butter popcorn. Prior to Rock da Bells it was called Backspin. Best old skool hip hop like we remember & can sing along to 💞
I see you Ms. Brown
I keep getting letters to subscribe and play in car. I think I'll do it
@@ronde1135 It’s good music c’mon & join the club.
Listening to Dougie Fresh talk abt Rock and Roll dudes being feminine and looking at hip hop today and dudes wearing (basically) tights with their ass out and rocking pocket books is like..😳
I taped this documentary on my cassettedeck and listened to it hour after hour. Even after more than 30 years I can still recall every word of it.
Next year Eric B & Rakim rocked Schoolly D beat on "I Know You Got Soul". That's how strong Schoolly was at this time. Good to see this!! To include a Philly homebody into this mix!
That beat was being used way before either one of them came out. Both were dope though. Schooly D was hardcore back then. Park side 52 was my joint.💯
@@mikelaw3862 Your Right Mike! Schoolly D mixed it so smooth we know this was a hit. If Schoolly did a clean cut of "Do It, Do it" his LP could of went bigger. Funkadelic cut they mixin'...Your 100% right. Good lookin' out!
@@stefonjackson2154 1st time I heard that & "Saturday night" I said this dude is like that wild ass older cousin that everybody got who don't give a F***.
RIP BIZ MARKIE 🙏🏻🕊️💔
Yeah, he was great, that set with Roxanne was dope
Rest In Peace Biz Markie
Smiled so hard when LL was on!!! Man o man, is this correct that he was living at his Grandmas even after Radio was on the Billboard Charts and sold over 500K? That was a pretty humbling moment for me as hearing the songs on the radio at the time and watching videos would have me believe he was living in big house n junk. Thanks for the doc! I sure hope mainstream gets in touch with hip hops roots soon and brings with it scratching and even beatboxing. Congrats to LL for being inducted!
We saw him practically every day, even as he was a major star! It became less over the years, only in between films, or maybe I just grew up, and I don't go back much. He comes back with his family sometimes, I hear.
@@Msboochie2 Definitely saw him out there washing his car or mowing the yard on the regular!
The money wasnt flowing like you see today back then......You just did your thing from the heart .
Uncle L is the GOAT
Nah L talked about that alot.Always remember whatever we endure is meant for our food ,and not bad..Rest Up to LL Grandmother.
What a great rare documentary, me and my brother used to be at those shows back in 85 and 86, the crowds seemed dead back then but they weren’t! Back then we was just so happy and in awe to see an actual live rap show!! It was mind blowing!! The good ole days!!!
This video is gold...who feels it, knows it!
Timeless along with Wild Style. I love that era old New York the Ed Koch years!
Watching this is bitter sweet. Memories of a time and place out of mind. Good times and bad times. Love and violence intertwined with a love for one another that's has become difficult to find these days.
I’m from the south BX… I was 11 in 86, very nostalgic. Salute to this master piece!!
The Mystery Crew was good outside of Russel's office.
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They were tight.
The mystery crew was fire. However, they sounded a little too much like RunDmc in an era where complete originality was demanded.
@@sunrah4469 Decade later we are a mirror copy & paste of each other.
I was 11 in 1986. I love Real Hip-Hop. The real movement. ❤
If only the Mystery Crew would have blown up. They legends now at least.
I could not stop smiling this whole video. I was only 2 years old when this came out. I love to see the essence of this thing I have grown to Live and Love called HIP HOP
Me too
It is a shame that many people are unaware of the existence of this brilliant Dutch piece of art. Thanks to the VPRO and Bram van Splunteren. And man oh man, if I start sharing my feelings about this one, I will not be done tomorrow. Simply goosebumps. Enjoy people and pay close attention while watching, you will realize you are about to relive the 80s again. ⏺️🎤 Happy New Year, and let's hope this will be a wonderful year!
💯💯 Also shoutouts to Belgian host Marcel Vanthilt
I realized that Europeans had more respect for American Black culture and music than White Americans in the 1980s. In the early 80s, I had cousins living in Belgium and France (my extended family is Haitian) and they knew more about hip hop and breakdancing than ME and I lived in, Brooklyn NYC. They told me about documentaries in France about the breakdancing culture on the West Coast and East coast. When they came to visit over Christmas break 1983, my cousins from France taught me how to breakdance! The only time you saw young people of color on television in the US was when they were reporting crime. Sometimes there would be a cringeworthy piece on the news about the "latest craze" hitting the urban ghetto called Rap!
@Junior James I don't know about other countries in Europe, but Electric Boogie, breakdance, Beatbox, and rap were huge here in The Netherlands. Also in England/ I'm not sure, but I think hip hop flowed over from England to the Netherlands more than from the United States. The very first record I bought was by a British dance group called Freeez - IOU. With that song, I discovered Electric Boogie, and it was then that I first saw a Boombox. But we already rode our BMXs )😄 That was in 83, I was hooked on everything I saw in that video. I still don't know if it's a breakdance song, I think it is more pop or dance, but it was sooo suitable for Breakdance and Electric Boogie. Right away. But still, we didn't know what hip hop stood for. When I went back to the record store to buy more of that kind of music a month later, the guy gave me two albums to listen to by The Jonzun Crew- Lost in Space and Whodini. I still remember how I felt that moment, and hip hop was born for me, my friends, and the whole borough of Amsterdam West. The following year 1984 it all erupted when the fat Boys RDMc. Newcleus and Rock Steady Crew made their presence felt. The love for Hip Hop never went away. It took The Netherlands by storm, esp in the big cities. The Netherlands and England had a strong hip-hop culture, also thanks to Yo MTV Raps with Julie Brown. Kangol, Filas, Blockhead, Graffiti, you name it we all participated. I miss those days man, I really miss those days.
@@MCBrainpower De grote Brainpower, en jazeker jazeker, mede dankzij hem is de docu geworden voor wat het nu is.
@Pryor Nyame lol Suriname is altijd in the house. Waar dan ook! 🇸🇷
LL’s grandmother was old school amazing spotless home well spoken
@ 11:50 Doug E never thought in a million years the rappers today would become exactly what Doug E was running from!
Facts shit krazy
Man..I'm getting old. I remember trains and abandoned burnt out buildings. The style of dressing. Even remember Dougie Fresh way before this. Wow. This was awesome
I remember watching this on Dutch television in ‘86, so exciting! I got it on VHS tape still. Classic!
Doug E Fresh had that curl process 😂 Roxanne!
That S curl was hot back then for real lol.
As a big fan of 80s rap....love this doc!!!
So awesome to see GrandMaster's technique....meet LL's grandma...Russell talking about future prospects...and the Last Poets...wow.
I literally hadn't heard Schooly-D since i bought the original album...1986(?)....Played the hell out've it.
Here....he literally predicted the future of west-coast "gangsta-rap"...just a few years later...NWA went on to destroy the sales figures with it's version of hard-core hip-hop.
All that said... What makes this perfecto....
The producer/interviewer! Dude with the Duran-Duran look (jealous...me?...of course!).... inserts himself in the background/foreground of so many scenes. So awesome.... seriously.
Er beschämt Barbara Walters....ha!
Cheers!
JerBear
Charlotte USA
I wish that I could go back. Those were the good ole days. I hate these new times.
Golden age hip hop over today's hip hop ANYDAY. I'm 26 and I know this to be true.
One of the greatest D.j.s of all time from my hometown N.Y.C. from my era HUGE SHOUT OUT to everyone who help started this HISTORICAL MOVEMENT the originals 🤗🎤🎙
To SEE WHERE LL is now is INCREDIBLE.
Man...Shout out Dougie Fresh, I met him on a flight with my daughter back in the day, and the brother was gracious...I enlightened her on the Park Jams and Club Nights back in the mid 80's.🔥
Dougie is a cool dude in person. I met him after a show in '95 & while everybody was waiting to get his autograph he said "I got a good nap b4 the show. I feel super charged" or something like that. Lol.
He was talking real militant in this documentary.
Its good seeing the artist in this piece who are still around. Rest in power to Biz Markie and Jam Master Jay.
Grandmaster Flash pioneered scratch and brought in emcees that evolved into rapping, wow. Never knew that. Thanks to TH-cam and this video. 👍🏾
I remember anticipating all week long when it was first advertised on Dutch TV. Had my VHS ready to record when the day arrived. This was so cool and still is.
This documentary is so 🔥 this is a beautiful gem i was 5 years old in autumn of 1986 damn the 80s best decade of my life Hip-Hop has came a long way
I love all the people here, and who grew up during this period of music in NYC!
Aye, I'm From Atlanta And Let Me Tell Ya. Back Then We Were ALL NEWYORKERS 🤣
This video was unbelievable how LL Cool j walks out that little crib doesn't know that his future holds run the MC doesn't know what the future holds pretty amazing video and that guy who's talking about hip hop's not going to go nowhere at the end LOL
Fabulous documentary that I personally have never seen before. I was 12 in 1986 and was growing up in Bristol (U.K) which had a good early Hip-Hop scene from around 1983. Such lovely memories came flooding back watching this. The golden era of Hip-Hop that will never be repeated!
I was hooked on hip hop in 1982. 🤟peace from Denmark
Such a Dope Documentary. Aged over time. Thank you-thank you!
Very well done documentary. It was raw, straight and to the point. The interviewer didn't get in the way.
I was 14 here in the U.k when this was out. Buying Hip Hop records and tapes here and not a clue about this until seeing first time in 2021!
I love researching these vids on Hip Hop.
Douge Fresh is a beat box legend!
I was 12 yrs old in 86 raised in Los Angeles California. This was a phenomenon and brought back so many memories of growing up. I remember going to the roadium swapmeet in Gardena and it was packed at this one record stand with upcoming m.c's and DJ's. Rap in that era and time was fascinating. And my mother rest in peace was an older Samoan woman who used to look at me and when pissed at me would say " why you always making those stupid noises with your mouth?" 😆 Then she would start making farting noises with her mouth to try and copy cat beatboxing.🤣 Man was nothing like growing up in the 80's and 90's.
He’s absolutely right about music programs being cut from schools in the 80s which people in power did to “save money” because they don’t value music and music education. It’s great that these kids made-do and came up with their own culture but I think that decision by the government had a detrimental effect on music overall.
Government cutbacks for art and music often are a good thing in disguise. It pushes creativity harder. If there were music programs in schools during this time and a kids were all learning to play instruments, hip hop maybe wouldn't have happened. Graffiti might not have happened.. at least not the way that they did.
@@jax2428 That's like saying poverty is a good thing, because it created hip hop. Before the cutbacks hip hop and turntablism was created because Kool Herc and the others couldn't afford instruments. Meanwhile I guarantee the upper middle class kids had their music programs no matter what.
So, glad my teenage years were during the golden age of Hip-Hop~real words, real music, real talent, real life
The HISTORY to view as 2022 creeps in.🤗
Thank you for the blessings, this is what raised me,..true hip hop
Schoolly D was on the money when he was talking about what they did to rock and roll music and what they eventually done to rap music with taking away the raw essence
Yeah they remove the fire that ooooohmp from our music.
I realized Europeans had more respect for American Black culture and music than White Americans in the 1980s. In the early 80s, I had cousins living in Belgium and France (my extended family is Haitian) and they knew more about hip hop and breakdancing than ME and I lived in, Brooklyn NYC. They told me about documentaries in France about the breakdancing culture on the West Coast and East coast. When they came to visit over Christmas break 1983, my cousins from France taught me how to breakdance! The only time you saw young people of color on television in the US was when they were reporting crime. Sometimes there would be a cringeworthy piece on the news about the "latest craze" hitting the urban ghetto called Rap! I remember when radio stations in NYC (like Z-100) would brag about NOT playing hip hop music.
We really the ones who invented rock and roll Chuck Berry and Little Richard.
@@kevinelliott9608 yes indeed. We (FBA) are the architects of it all.
You see my thread where I had to school a Carribbean fool on where and how hip hop really started? Other person claimed it started from Dancehall - I had to thoroughly wax that gluteus maximus..and destroy that claim
@@juniorjames7076 yeah they tried hard to downplay rap back then. That why early rap broadcasts came on at late night. But as a kid I heard what I heard from the streets directly! from kids a bit older than me at the time. Fun days for sure
As a old school reggae music fan this brought back many memories as there are many parallels between hip hop rappers and reggae sound system DJs. Both were talking lyrics about girls, violence, cultural issues, just about anything and many became stars although business wise hip hop is light years ahead business money wise. For me KRS1, Ice Cube and Ice T were the ones who got me into listening to hip hop seriously although of course I have to acknowledge and respect the people who came before them, some of which are on this video.
dj kool herc is jamaican
It's pretty much the same thing to me, and a lot of us who were immigrant’s children. I grew up in Queens near Hollis, it's a large Carribean population, even back then. Dancehall rhyming over a rhythm. The only major difference is that it uses their accent and slang.
Dougie Fresh; intelligent, articulate and having great vision and purpose.
For those who don't know, all the rappers who came before Run-DMC were considered 'old school'. Run-DMC and all others coming after them were 'new-school'. Over the decades people lost sight of the two distinct eras of rap and decided to call older rappers like Rakim, Big Daddy Kane and KRS-1 old school but technically they're not.
Correct, they would be new school as of that era. They brought along a much more sophisticated rap style. They brought hip hop to a higher level. My opinion, if rap kept course on the old school of lyrics it probably would have become niche genre instead of a dominating behemoth it grew to become.
Exactly, and the next generation after LL, Rakim, etc. were really the new new school such as Busta Ryhmes of ironically "Leaders of the New School" , De La Soul, NWA, Queen Latifah, Onyx, Wu Tang clan, etc. They issued in the commercial era of Hip Hop making it accessible to the main stream masses on another level after Run DMC, Kane, etc.. The new new school took off from 1989 to the mid 90's. That was definitely the best era of rap... so much diversity and lyrical content! Glad I came up during that time. 🎙🎤
KRS talked about this in "I'm still #1".
By all means neccessary and It takes a Nation of millions to hold us back were the soundtrack to my senior year.
@@do7hemath937 I was just about to mention "still Number one"
@@dizmop yep KRS the Teacher
Wow!!! This video was so good!!! Thank you Mike D!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dang, Don't think Ive ever sen Grand Master Flash this young and to hear whole convertions with him is awesome! Some classic pioneers!
This is legendary.
This video definitely going to hit about 1 million views by the end of 2022
Too important of a piece of history not to.
Yes .. agreed.. I love it
WELL, looks like you was wrong :(
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This is my parents generation. Its funny back then like when I see pics of my parents or see the high school kids in this video its hard for me to believe they're kids because for some reason teenagers in the 80s look like grown ups already lol. When I was in high school, the kids looked like legit little kids but kids in the 80s looked like they were in their 20s. I love this era of hip hop and djs like grandmaster flasher are true genius. It amazes me how musicians like grandmaster flash or say Jimi Hendrix develop their technique because before them there was nobody. For them to think outside the box and create an original approach to an instrument is amazing. Because now'a days you got people to look back on for influence and to utilize their technique or create a brand new technique off of their technique... but like I said, before Grandmaster Flash there really wasn't anybody and for him to think oh let me take the turn tables and records and do scratches and mixes and create a whole new genre out of it is mind blowing to me because there was nobody before him or other djs like him from this era to think oh let me take that technique and develop my own technique off of it.
He is a true pioneer and genius. You should check out his interview on drink champs if you haven’t already. IT’s mind blowing.
I'm excited to see this, its like a double feature I love Iggy and the Stooges and Old school hip hop
Punk Rock and old skool Hip Hop had child and named it Beastie Boys!!!
@@saywhatagain6176 absolutely! That's what makes them my favorite group
I love shots with and of the elders in this. This makes me feel so much love for NY
Every Rapper and DJ should watch this Documentary before you jump into the Hip HOp game. Once you have the respect for the game you will go far.
This brings immense historical value. Thanks for the work you do
@Caribbean Ín The House Hip hop came from these kids in the streets of the burrows who knew nothing about dancehall music. They took the break in their parent's disco and R&B records and found a way to loop it continuesly. The disc jockey, MC, vinyl records, equalizers, nor loud stereo speakers were invented in Jamaica. Lol Sure some of the early players were from the islands, but y'all gotta stop this co-opting hip hop history nonsense to help you sleep better at night. Both cultures get their rhythm from a mixture of African cultures. The End
@Caribbean Ín The House Please tell me why you get so angry. All of us here are celebrating hip-hop in its rawest form. And you are correct to some extent, the setting, the street parties, dj and mc do originate from Jamaica, but the rapping and the hip hop culture we are talking about originated in The Bronx. And if somebody disagrees, don't become rude (boy)! If you're stressed out or got some personal problems, please seek help. But at least try to start the year positively. So chill bro!
@Caribbean Ín The House lol u funny bro, I like you. If you ask me, I think people confuse some elements with each other. Some elements from hip hop already existed, and they even go back to a very distant past in Africa. New elements have been invented and revamped over the years. This discussion is not as simple as people think. And you can't blame the people who don't know the history or haven't looked for it. But I understand where you are coming from. This is an interesting video. Followed by a heated discussion. th-cam.com/video/IjQ1smzbl7M/w-d-xo.html
1st gen Jamaican born in the Bronx. Yes here is from Jamaica and dancehall had an influenceBUT stop with the Jamaicans started rap I remember in 85/86 I brought my rap tapes with me to Jamaica for the summer. my family hated it. Jamaicans wanted nothing to do with hip hop. Even callled it “bunga Bunga music. When rap took off a n the 90s all of a sudden Jamaica invented hop hop. It’s just not true. I tell my Jamaican family and remind them of how they hated it so much. Until it started to blow up worldwide.
@Caribbean Ín The House First of all ,puntuation is essential. Yes herc brought some influence with the djing, but MCing as we know today was started in the Bronx by majority BLACK AMERICANS. Believe me if it was true that Jamaica invented hip hop then i would claim that . I am the son of Jamaican Immigrants. But that is just not true. Its like saying Jazz music was invented by the europeans who designed the sax, trombone, violin, etc...
I remember when this came out on Dutch television. Made a huge impact on me. Great to see it back here.
This was so refreshing to revisit the good ole days. And a visit to Todd's childhood home was on a very nice street and neighborhood. He mentioned not rapping about poverty and crime. Because going to his concerts was about escaping that. He wanted to promote fun and having a good time. To bad for TMC that represents a lot of us that had talent but didn't succeed. We all knew Hip-hop wasn't gonna die.
I think I'm gonna have to sit down and actually watch this!
I wasn't around during this time but I definitely pay homage to the legends
Very very cool seeing grandmaster flash on the technics !!!
MAN!! Watching this took me back!! *WAY BACK!! BACK INTO TIME* !!! (see what I did there....?? 😉) But for real....seeing these *LEGENDS* at the time when they were basically still on the come up, really puts things into perspective. In the mid-80's, rap (aka. hip hop) still wasn't...."socially accepted" by a fairly large percentage of America/the world. *NOW* ....without any bit of doubt, it's the *MOST INFLUENCIAL* genre of music in society, and has been for at least the last 25-30 years!! Nevertheless,....big salute to all of the *LEGENDS* in this film!! Thanks for sharing.
It’s kinda funny to see Rev Run cursing up a storm 🤣🤣🤣letting them F-bombs fly. Of course this is before he became Rev Run. Side note: nobody was cooler than Run DMC! Their look was fucking iconic!
You know he was talking to lyor Cohen lol that why lyor Cohen talk the way he talk aggressive like his boss run 😂
RIP...Jay, Biz and Ecstasy!!!Sad yous are gone! I was around in those times..born and raised in N.Y. It was the place to be.
Rap attacks, Mr. Magic, Red Alert. 98.7 kiss FM, WBLS.. Lee jeans, polo shirts, pumas,shell top adidas. Good times!
Rap in it's infancy. Beautiful.
Actually if it were a child it would a 10 year old child at this point.