For primarily off-road applications, such as rocks and roots on single track and hard Enduro type settings… Would you focus on air Forks or closed chamber spring forks? Looking for great sustained comfort, but also good bottoming resistance for drops.
Comfort and bottoming resistance are strong points from air forks, but it comes at a cost of more frequent and expensive maintenance. But if you are ok with that compromise, go for it :)
I Have a set of air forks on my Husky 350, and after a year I think I have found the sweet spot, They must still be checked after every ride but that's Okay with me. I really love how they make the front of the bike feel so much lighter. I ride in a place with large roots pounding the front end every few feet. The only issue I have is that they will start feeling slightly harsh when the secondary air chambers pump up. To keep the plushness, I release the secondary chambers with a set of push-button relief valves but I have to take my hands off the bars to do it. Instead of having these manual operated valves, is there something out there to do this automatically???? Something like a blow-off valve on a turbo.
You should never relieve the air pressure from the outer chambers when riding! Its should always be performed when the wheel is off the ground! Keep safe 💪
If I don't hit the bleeders, the ride gets harsh. A quick push and it's instant relief. I do the main chamber on a stand but there is no stand out is the woods as I'm getting pounded over the roots. @@StepstoPodium
@richfrady8044 then try hitting the bleeders with the front wheel in the air (hopefully not during a wheelie! 😂) If you do thst in the trail with your forks compressed, they'll generate a vacuum and won't be able to fully extend
Obrigado for the great video Luis. My uneducated assumption would be, that that due to the friction, the temperature inside the fork would rise regardless to the outside temperature, which would cause the air to expand and pressure to increase. What I am sayin, or actually asking is, wouldn't an air fork be prone to inconsistency?
Than you Ariel! 🙌 The fork won't get that much hot due to working conditions. The grease inside keeps friction to a minimum (within possible). The outside temperature is the most significant factor because the variations can be quite significant from winter to summer in some regions and even daytime variations.
And it will get hotter, of course, but the biggest difference between both is that the forks have a huge area to dissipate heat and so it never reaches such heat amplitudes like a small hand pump. Besides that the hand pump does not contain grease to reduce friction and absorb heat :)
@@StepstoPodium ok, thanks. someone told me onetime years ago his buddy's went out on the trail and it sat down on the wheel. it didn't' sound right to me.
Do you have an opinion on fork sizes? I'm running 43mm apex forks & have 2 options. 1 spend ~2200usd on dropins and a new shock or spend ~4000 on used 48mm xplor fork and their shock and have it revalved&sprung. I WS looking at aer xplor pro stuff, but this video closed off that option.
Ah, it is similar to bicycle air spring. I tune mine to have this transfer port higher. So the negative chamber pressure is higher. As it has smaller piston surface to have an perfect initial softness without an preloaded feeling.
Como de costume, bom para a competição ou para quem muda de moto com frequência, para o amador as molas continuam a ser a melhor opção, em relação ao video, boa explicação . Bom trabalho
For primarily off-road applications, such as rocks and roots on single track and hard Enduro type settings… Would you focus on air Forks or closed chamber spring forks? Looking for great sustained comfort, but also good bottoming resistance for drops.
Comfort and bottoming resistance are strong points from air forks, but it comes at a cost of more frequent and expensive maintenance. But if you are ok with that compromise, go for it :)
I Have a set of air forks on my Husky 350, and after a year I think I have found the sweet spot, They must still be checked after every ride but that's Okay with me. I really love how they make the front of the bike feel so much lighter. I ride in a place with large roots pounding the front end every few feet. The only issue I have is that they will start feeling slightly harsh when the secondary air chambers pump up. To keep the plushness, I release the secondary chambers with a set of push-button relief valves but I have to take my hands off the bars to do it. Instead of having these manual operated valves, is there something out there to do this automatically???? Something like a blow-off valve on a turbo.
You should never relieve the air pressure from the outer chambers when riding! Its should always be performed when the wheel is off the ground!
Keep safe 💪
If I don't hit the bleeders, the ride gets harsh. A quick push and it's instant relief. I do the main chamber on a stand but there is no stand out is the woods as I'm getting pounded over the roots. @@StepstoPodium
@richfrady8044 then try hitting the bleeders with the front wheel in the air (hopefully not during a wheelie! 😂)
If you do thst in the trail with your forks compressed, they'll generate a vacuum and won't be able to fully extend
Aer cone valve forks are amazing
But there’s two valve adjustment
Stock aer forks I’m not a fan of
Obrigado for the great video Luis. My uneducated assumption would be, that that due to the friction, the temperature inside the fork would rise regardless to the outside temperature, which would cause the air to expand and pressure to increase. What I am sayin, or actually asking is, wouldn't an air fork be prone to inconsistency?
Than you Ariel! 🙌
The fork won't get that much hot due to working conditions. The grease inside keeps friction to a minimum (within possible). The outside temperature is the most significant factor because the variations can be quite significant from winter to summer in some regions and even daytime variations.
Thanks for keep making those videos. Learned a lot from you!
Thank you!! Happy to hear that! 😄
Interesting but pumping air creates heat, my bicycle pump gets hot just adding 2psi to my rear tyre. How hot will that fork get?
And it will get hotter, of course, but the biggest difference between both is that the forks have a huge area to dissipate heat and so it never reaches such heat amplitudes like a small hand pump. Besides that the hand pump does not contain grease to reduce friction and absorb heat :)
Thanks.... helps alot
Muito bom vídeo
Obrigado Rui! 🙌
Bom vídeo, tenta fazer um review de air forks no Hard-enduro,seria top 🔝
Obrigado claudio! Estas aqui não são compatíveis com a minha mota, senão ja tinha feito 😜
same as mountain bike.
if the seal on the air chamber went out would the forks clasps. like the fender sitting on the wheel.
Yes, but that's very unlikely. It would mean the air had to come out of the shrader valve and it's really unusual to happen
@@StepstoPodium ok, thanks. someone told me onetime years ago his buddy's went out on the trail and it sat down on the wheel. it didn't' sound right to me.
Do you have an opinion on fork sizes? I'm running 43mm apex forks & have 2 options. 1 spend ~2200usd on dropins and a new shock or spend ~4000 on used 48mm xplor fork and their shock and have it revalved&sprung. I WS looking at aer xplor pro stuff, but this video closed off that option.
For which application is it?
@StepstoPodium platform 890 adv. Use case, forest singletrack, sand enduro, a log jump from time to time.
@@StepstoPodium I've posted a few videos here.
What are the dropins and new shock?
@@StepstoPodium andreani nitron tvt25
Knowledge is power only if you apply it.
If you don't, we have online courses to learn how to apply that knowledge 😉
Ah, it is similar to bicycle air spring. I tune mine to have this transfer port higher. So the negative chamber pressure is higher. As it has smaller piston surface to have an perfect initial softness without an preloaded feeling.
How you do it?
@@igortbp Change piston positon or volume
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh Air volume?
air forks SUCKS ya why fix what’s not broke
Como de costume, bom para a competição ou para quem muda de moto com frequência, para o amador as molas continuam a ser a melhor opção, em relação ao video, boa explicação . Bom trabalho
Concordo! Obrigado 💪🙌