Actually, this bodes extremely WELL for the future of storytelling... because it's going to drive more and more viewers to pursue other avenues for their entertainment. The challenge -- and the opportunity -- is for independent filmmakers to take up the slack.
I disagree... because many (most?) of those other avenues of entertainment are also filled with cracks and/or potholes... sometimes massive. Most people don't seem to realize just how important the stories we tell each other actually are. They blow it off as just being entertainment... without realizing that it affects them, and the people around them. There was a guy in Germany, back in the 1930's, who didn't like a group (several, actually)... and he "told stories" to make that group look bad. Look how that turned out... and it only took a couple of years Whether it is intentional or not, the current narrative (re: men and patriarchy), is tailor-made to have the same effects... and is using the same methods... "pop culture". Gina was perhaps more 🎯 than she knew, when she made that specific comparison. It's no wonder that they gave her walking papers and tried to cancel her. She lifted part of the "curtain of virtue" and tried to show people what was hiding behind it. Even more on target, that guy back in the 30's also hid his agenda behind a curtain of "virtue".
@ nyetzdyec3391 Was going to make a similar comment. Literature is even more infested than movies now with this particularly strange ideology. The only place to turn to good entertainment now is the past.
“I don’t really understand how ideals like heroism, endurance, constancy and love can be out of date” Well ya know the old saying; write what you know. Cant write what you don’t.
Good video. Hopefully voices like yours will finally reach someone in Hollywood. Between shuttting down schools for years and the awful heroes and heroines they've been exposed to, I feel pretty awful for this generation of children. Let's hope this radical activist "entertainment" comes to an end soon.
I just don't like stories with "strong-female leads" who are selfish, unwilling to listen to feedback/advice, and is propped up to be the paragon of virtue. Selfishness is not a virtue. Shunning wisdom is foolish. Truly strong women hold themselves accountable for their actions/decisions and aren't afraid to suffer for others. Women are just as imperfect and capable of change and redemption as the next person.
@@chasehedges6775 Not quite. Adam (whose name means "mankind" in Hebrew") was created at verse Gen. 2:7. Eve doesn't come into the equation over ten verses along the way. At Gen. 2:23 Adam says: "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." She is explicitly called "a helper" at Gen. 2:20: "But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him". The point is, does Gen. 2 prevail over Gen. 1 - in other words, is the creation of man in Gen. 1 a trailer for Gen. 2? Or are those two separate events (as the myth of Lilith suggests)?
Once Hollywood was able to creat characters such as Beatrix from Kill Bill and Seline from Underworld , now they only can make Rey from Star Wars and Captain Marvel ( Marvel ) and you have to say "These are great female characters"
Today, nothing is earned, it’s all just Mary-Sue girlboss showmanship. And the men are hapless, washed-up, lacking in agency, and needing to be rescued, by a knowing-better female character.
I think the rise of identarianism in Hollywood is at the core of the issue. Once you start to believe that good and evil are not the product of what you do, but instead are an innate attribute of who you are that you were born with, then it becomes all but inevitable that your moral compass goes straight out of the window. Such a mindset argues that, if the group a person comes from is supposedly oppressed, then nothing a member of that group does can be an abuse of power or an expression of the oppression of others, because the oppression (actual or imagined, current or historical) of their identity in-group automatically cancels it out somehow. At the same time, if someone comes from a supposed oppressor group, then they are inherently stained with the evil of that oppression no matter how they live their lives or what they try to do to help others because the actions of the oppressor group they supposedly hail from - no matter how many centuries in the past - precludes any possibility that they can be anything but an oppressor. Once that sort of mindset becomes your only lodestone, the idea that female characters are inherently pure and perfect (and men are inherently wicked and inferior) no matter how horrifically they mistreat others becomes not only acceptable, but pretty much unavoidable for someone steeped in the most absolutist of feminist ideology.
It's also absurd that the many female archetypes that we have seen in movies have been rejected and replaced for the singular yet stunted archetype that is the girlboss, we're not going to see actressess play any character other than the girlboss.
The modern female hero is shaped by a morality that used to be reserved solely for the villain. A vain and entitled lust for power. And damn anyone who dares get in the way of what they think is rightfully theirs. You know. A zealot. A villain.
I think the worst thing in that whole debacle is how those activists are made to constantly fall upward. It's just stunning to watch. At this point I'm just entirely boycotting the whole industry until they come to their sense and start getting rid of those folks and create good stories again. That might take a couple years but it's coming.
One of the few unironically strong female character in recent media is Kim Wrexler. She is actually wronged by the patriarchy (literally HHM). She enjoys taking down and humiliating rich powerful men (Howard in particular). She works with a man who consider her his equal. And she pays for the consequences of her actions throughout the story. Despite her self-rightenous activism, the audience still loves her because her universe doesn't bend over to present her as anything other than who she is. Kim is a masterclass of how a strong activist female should be written.
They don't make films for the consumers benefit. They make films for the state, currently heroism, strength, and self introspection are liabilities of the state. This is all for demoralizing the population into submission
The stories a society tells itself are very important. Crucial, even. Those stories inform/reflect the present, and shape the future. Think about the future that *these* stories *are* shaping. Think about a future "informed" by stories with heroes who are actually villains... and when real heroes are humiliated. No one "informed" by this will want to be a hero. Then, where will we be?
“Helpmate” Hmmmm…..wonder where I’ve heard that before? Almost like men/women were designed to work together buffeting each other’s strengths and supporting each other in areas where they uniquely struggle….
In Captain America: Civil War, Natasha openly supports the decision to be limited. Although with (legitimate) doubts, he initially agrees with the resolution which would allow the damage caused by clashes between Avengers and threats around the world to be limited. We are talking about a spy and assassin who has carried out these dirty tasks for years, technically she should be against the agreements, but she has understood her mistakes (even independent of her and imposed since childhood) and is looking for a way to avoid further problems. For this reason, perhaps, when she died I had a shiver: Tony was known to be gone, it was in the air. but Natasha's passing was unexpected and emotionally engaging.
Great content, and presentation, I'm a fan! The female perspective is always greatly appreciated, especially given the nature of the topics you comment on. The volume's a bit of an issue on quite a few of your vids though. Maybe get a better mic?
It's Shrodinger's Girlboss: simultaneously awesome, perfect, powerful, right, with nothing more to learn; and held back, belittled, obstructed and overshadowed by lesser beings in more powerful roles. She's just. that. good. I'm optimistic that culture and worldview is upstream from attitudes, and bigger, more enduring in the psyche. Attitudes can change quite quickly when the authorizing environment changes - jobs, funding, political tribes, rewards and incentives, social cachet, clout etc. 20 years ago no writer or filmmaker would have got away with the nonsense of the past ?7-8 years. Recommend Jonathan Haidt's take on this, and Maio and Haddock "The Psychology of Attitudes". I live in hope that market forces will take care of the worse excrescences, and cultural mores or the zeitgeist will push it further.
... and now it isn't enough to put those "paragons" on pedestals... they want to dig trenches under the guys. So much for trying to lift up both groups, hmm?
@@Nyet-Zdyes When Group A and Group B are portrayed as opposites of each other, putting Group A on top of the pedestal invariably corresponds to crushing Group B under the pedestal.
If you succeed through wit or skill, that's something that can be shown on screen. Other things kinda get into suspension of disbelief more. A writer shouldn't let themselves off the hook with magical solutions. For instance, giving Rey new powers. Or just having the main character grimace and then have their power level go through the roof (Eleven in stranger things).
the other issue with these "girl boss" types is that they typically are nothing outside of their hollywood bubbles. Trust fund kids who have never held a real job, or had any achievements, struggles, or life-challenges, makes them just arrogant caricatures. Most see thru it, but sadly, children do not, and they wish to emulate the mal-behavior.
The interesting thing with feminism, is that it doesn't want to admit how much it's borrowing from traditional gender sterreotypes. if you look at the actual arguments given in the 19th century about why women should not work or engage in business, they were based on women's "purity", and "innocence." Many traditional fairy tales (not all but certainly a majority), sleeping beauty, Cinderella, snow white, beauty and the beast, Rapunzel, the goose girl, the 11 wild swans, thumb Alina, have the female character start as good, pure and beautiful, and only need to endure circumstances long enough to find someone who recognizes that. Compare these to male protagonists like Jack (both the beanstalk and the giant killer), Aladdin, Alibaba, dick wittington or the miller's son of puss in boots, who often start off described as poor, or even lazy, and who must redeem themselves through their actions. Why is it that violence against women by men is always! much more condemned than the other way around (which is often praised), hedk the hole damsel in distress trope is predicated on the idea of female intrinsic worth. So much in feminism, and especially the modern "me too", form of feminism, is intrinsically based on the idea of women having more intrinsic worth, and, women's suffering mattering far more than men's, since if it were based on equality, women would be considered just as disposable as men. Of course, good stories go beyond the stereotypes, and write both women and men as flawed, real humans whose stories matter as you said. However, I do find it interesting just in how much the modern, man hating Mary sue, is like the beautiful, untouchably pure princess of old, other than the princesses generally also being portrayed as caring and compassionate, while the modern Mary Sues are arrogant and abrasive. Plus of course, in the classic fairy tales women who were indeed evil, EG the wicked queen from snow white, Cinderella's step mother and sisters or Rapunzel's witch tended to get what they deserved.
I know I've said this on your previous videos on this subject: Excellent work. Over the past few years plenty of TH-camrs, men, women, young & old etc., has said this line or something similar: 'I could care less if the protagonist (and/or antagonist) is 'fill in the blank'...just give us a good story with awesome characters.' For some reason, when modern feminism hears that, the message becomes 'Death to all women!'. Wait, what?! Nerdword, your problem with these female characters echoes my own: they're perfect, they don't have any flaws, they make dumb decisions but don't suffer any consequences. These characters are boring and one-dimensional...Rey Palpatine is an excellent example. When will this nonsense end? Because if it doesn't...there's a possibility that Hollywood could be no more. What really scares me is this...At some point there's going to be a change in the tide...A pushback to this modern feminism. How bad will that pushback be? THAT concerns me. 🤔 Edit: Apologies, something I forgot to add. All these "strong female characters" lack depth. Aside from power, what else is there? I'm kind of dumbfounded that whoever "created" these characters forgot this: 'Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely'
Emily Blunt said it best, something to the degree of: "Whenever I see "strong female character" on a script, I roll my eyes. It's so dumb and boring. I'm over it." And it's not HARD to do. You wanna make a badass female character? Great! Just make her also have flaws. Make her fuck-up. Have people call her out on mistakes that get people hurt or almost killed. It is OKAY to have a flawed character. Katara and Toph I think are some of the most well written, badass characters, and they happen to be women. But just like Zuko, Iroh, Aang, Sokka, and all the other male characters... they mess up! They get angry and sad and are held accountable for their actions. But they're also goofy, funny, and silly....again just like all the other male characters! We don't hate badass female characters. We hate badass female Mary Sues that can do no wrong and are infallible in every way and are good at every single thing they do. It's just...boring. And like Emily Blunt; I'm SO over it.
I agree, especially when we consider Wandavision. I rolled my eyes harder than ever when Monica talked about Wanda's "sacrifice," even though she enslaved an entire town.
My goodness...you've been the voice of reason among an endless flurry of shills defending this garbage. Been subscribed a long time...and honestly you need more notoriety. (Bonebridger!) Your honest opinion on these movies is always a welcomed take on the state of film...keep the content coming
Yes, the victimhood narrative is necessary to relinquish moral responsbility for the exercise of power. With great victimhood comes great irresponsibility.
Feminism is Not 'Heroic'. Feminism prioritizes the the abstract idea of the perfect woman, and deceives itself that all women are that already. The true Heroism of a Man is an acknowledgement that perfection should be aspired to whilst accepting that most men are incapable and those few that get close must suffer greatly. A Hero is fully prepared to fail and fall and die. Women are rarely seemingly willing to face destruction and ignominy at a personal level for a greater principle than themselves.
Feminism wasn't always that way, but that is what it's turned into. A hero faces overwhelming odds in spite of being afraid to. THAT is courage. Being gifted by the screenwriter with total cosmic power is just a cover for weakness, both in character and in storytelling.
@@chasehedges6775 it's not a woman's nature to die for what she believes in. Some women have that but they are more the exception than the rule. That aspect human nature is overwhelmingly represented by men rather than women. I don't advise expecting women to do that, it's just unrealistic
I’ve lost interest in cinema as a result of the toxic feminism which permeates modern movie making. Surely they don’t expect men turn up with shamed bowed heads just to watch this garbage.
The Barbie movies exemplified EVERYTHING you talk about in this video....and it made a billion and a half dollars. What that is going to teach Hollywood? That they should double and triple down on all this modern feminist garbage, but wrap it up in a pretty pink package and tie it into women's childhood nostalgia. Things are going to get WAY worse before they get better. What a terrible time to be a movie lover.
I think the Barbie movie would have been better if they had made The story in it about Ken going to the real world on his own and teaching the teen girl in the film how to become more confident in herself and become a happier/cheerful person. I think that could work.
This remind me of the firdt charmed serie. One of my recurrent thoughts about it was 《is it just females witches slaying demonic dudes or what ?》. The good things was the writing was good enough to balance things at somes points. + about wandavision i actually loved this 😍 and i believe the 《inner good》work with her because of the empathy factor that made us focus on her pains more than her action....
The fight scene at 5:39 is so laughably terrible I would have thought it was a joke, if not for the fact that I'm sure Amazon was inordinately proud of it. As somebody who works a job that requires going hands-on with aggressive people from time to time, was a competitive wrestler in school, and has been professionally instructed in jiujitsu and boxing (and who did HEMA for about 10yrs) - there is a vanishingly small number of women I've ever seen who were anything but large, clumsy children, when it came to serious, actual fighting. Even a professional female MMA athlete is going to get clobbered by a physically fit, reasonably-proficient dude who is likely to be 5-6 inches taller and 50-100lbs heavier. Put her up against some yoked-out 250lb specimen who is at the peak of his athletic and combative skills and she is going to get absolutely obliterated. There are a few actresses with the physicality to pull off an action role. Gina Carano was easily the best of the last few decades. Milla Jovovich was pretty good for a skinny model. Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton were convincing as being gutsy and firearms proficient. But most of these women are absolutely cringe-inducing when they're trying to look like hardasses.
Entrainment for narcissists made by narcissists. When the narcissists say they're not making it for you they mean they're making it for narcissists. I e. People who think just like them.
In past years, Hollywood has been trying to compensate for perceived wrongs inflicted on womankind, and tend their wounds (Thanks, Harvey. Thanks, MeToo!). Hollywood thinks it is making amends by rebuking males, inserting females into typically male roles, and stripping heroines of their ‘weaknesses’, aka femininity and humanity. The result is an overpowered villain who faces no repercussions. The success of Barbie has reminded us all that entertainment has genres for females, and genres for males (and that’s okay, Hollywood!). In time, cultural and financial concerns will cause moviemakers and showrunners to quit posturing and give the audience what they want, not what the Leftist-feminist interlopers insist they must accept.
Think of the women's cultural progression as paralleling a victimized individual's psychological progression, from the original injury to healing and growth. There are seven phases: 1) the horrible thing that happened, and all the coping strategies that came with it. 2) denial - the horrible thing very certainly did _not_ happen, you can count on that. 3) accept that something terrible happened to you. 4) accept that the lack of one's own ability to respond properly to the terrible thing itself led to the lingering trauma. (Trauma stems from a state of powerlessness and lack of social support.) 5) accept (quite possibly) that one has victimized others in a similar manner to how one was victimized. 6) learn and change to the point that the original traumatizing experience would not be traumatizing. 7) accept responsibility for perpetuating the abuse to others in the past, set right your wrongs, and commit to change. Feminism is a process like this, but at mass scale, and it's stuck in phase 3. Women's participation in their own subordination in the past (and present, in some spaces) is a very difficult thing to acknowledge. Much like children of abusive, neglectful, and otherwise dysfunctional families often grow up to be abusive, neglectful, and/or dysfunctional themselves, indicating that they were in a sense "infected" by the values, priorities, practices, beliefs, etc. that constituted the dysfunction that hurt them so much - it became a part of them. Only by taking responsibility for their own lives will women come to peace. Blaming their suffering perpetually on a patriarchal abuser, even when that abuse has ended, hurts women most of all, builds up "the patriarchy" above all.
The scariest part about the victim / oppressor logic that you describe, where any action is justified in fighting the oppressor, is that it is not limited to movies. Look at the people marching in support of Hamas at the moment. They believe that Hamas is justified in its murder of innocent civilians because they are fighting against Israel, the oppressor, and as such there is no act that is too barbaric or evil as to be condemned.
Zeigler is not aesthetically pleasing as all I can see are those thumbnail faces because that's the real her. And that completely takes away from any desire to see her act in anything.
The tl;dr of this video is a description of the typical Mary Sue character in modern cinema 📽️ I highly recommend Literature Devil video on why Rey is a Mary Sue and Luke Skywalker is not that explains point for point what a Mary Sue is. Edit: He also made one on the new Guyladriel which is also good.
I have some constructive criticism. I've noticed that I feel like I'm rushing through your videos, because of how fast you talk. Putting it on .85x speed just seem to improve it greatly. Thanks ❤
I think your description of modern Hollywood feminism is spot on! I think it has also redefined a woman’s view of marriage, rebuked the role of motherhood, and looked down upon the role of child rearing. It has emasculated women.
Anyone notice the idiotic expressions on Rachel Zegler’s face during that interview where she tears down the animated Snow White and anything that was good about it have become a meme for the social justice warrior rot that’s destroying entertainment?
Gina Davis portrayed the best badass female characters in both: A League of Their Own, and in The Long Kiss Goodnight She was a bad ass, but still maintained her femininity, and valued family. I haven’t seen good female characters this well written since.
I think modern feminism is destroying itself. This attitude with movies and entertainment is putting people off not bringing them in. It's also not really feminism, but rather misandry. It's scapegoating and it manipulates the truth to paint all women as victims. Every time you get a "girl version" of anything, it destroys the credibility of all involved.
"At once female characters are the most powerful people in the world, and also the biggest victims possible" YES!!! We're supposed to believe they're amazing, terrifying, stronger and superior in every way, and at the same time feel sorry and bad for them? Boring! I'm not interested in that anymore!
This isn't really strange and new. Fifty years ago... "Women need men like fish need bicycles." Summarize that, without trying to be "funny". Bicycles are worthless to fish. This is *not* new... it's just more blatant. (Edit - shortened.)
About thirty years ago, Guinness, the beer maker, made an advert for British TV. It started with that slogan on screen, followed by women toiling in mines, roadworks, etc. Then it showed an empty maternity ward, then a fish riding a bicycle. Now is good time to broadcast the advert again.
Buffy the vampire is a perfect example of a feminist show. Just because the women a lead doesnt mean its good the writing makes the show good instead of asking for better writing u asking to go back 60 years.
I genuinly blame modern Hollywood itself, rather than feminism. Hack writers and producers that are just stupid or lazy enough to keep hiring them to make a minimum effort jobs are the problem. They are pondering to the thing, not really adressing it or supporting it, that's all.
Your last question does actually make sense. History proves that's tyrants and other azz holes claim to be victims. One only needs to look at the modern claims of being replaced in society . This illusion is easily used by would be tyrants. Like you said , these ideas are used to motivate. The question is , what are the motives of these ideas. Its surely not to entertain 😂😂😂😂
There's a romantic comedy called Mr Right. The main female character's arc is she's unhappy in love, meets Mr. Right, and becomes a cold blooded killer.
Bankruptcy is the only way. The current crop of execs, directors, writers and producers are all ideologically captured. They got themselves into this mess and along the way got rid of all the truly talented and creative people that built a lot of what we loved. So now there’s no one left to get them out of this. On the bright side true talent and creativity will always find a way, whether in movies, tv, gaming or any other entertainment medium. Hollywood as we know it might be gone but there will be something else to fill the void. We’ll be fine, eventually.
This is not sustainable it’s boring and people will seek out entertaining movies from other places. Other than Hollywood the woke mine virus will destroy itfinancially.
I've never seen a more irritating and uncharismatic female character in a movie as Helena Shaw in Indy 5 The Dial of Decentering. She was so high on her own farts, I swear to Kali Ma.
The reason you KNOW this is purely ideology-driven is that there ARE ways to do this trope well - that aren't being taken. Take the Angelina Jolie 'Tomb Raider' movies as an example - her Lara Croft is an absolute stoic badass, an antihero who IS very nearly perfect and unstoppable. Very close, in other words, to the stone-faced super-bitches of modern cinema. The difference? Jolie's Croft may be a badass, but A: she has a snarky personality that keeps her from being hatable; B: it's made clear that her badassery is the result of years of practice and training; we may be seeing her at the height of her prowess, but it took a good deal of work for her to get there, and C: no one else is denigrated in order to make her look good. These are simple writing tricks that anyone with a half-decent grasp of narrative can pull off - but they go out the window the moment you start focusing on speaking points over character and story. We COULD have been having a new era of cool female badasses now, and, despite what some people are saying, pretty much everyone would be happy about that, except the screenwriters don't care about good writing, just politics - hence, what we're actually getting are annoyingly perfect super-bitches. Feh.
No one in the audience is laughing because no one is in the audience
The true “modern audience” lmao
Actually, this bodes extremely WELL for the future of storytelling... because it's going to drive more and more viewers to pursue other avenues for their entertainment.
The challenge -- and the opportunity -- is for independent filmmakers to take up the slack.
I think it’s a good time to publish your story online. Especially if you follow the heroes journey. Hollywood has burned all of its bridges.
Indie films is where Hollywood was drawing their talent from with Nepo babies shoved in as favors....this is the result.
I disagree... because many (most?) of those other avenues of entertainment are also filled with cracks and/or potholes... sometimes massive.
Most people don't seem to realize just how important the stories we tell each other actually are.
They blow it off as just being entertainment... without realizing that it affects them, and the people around them.
There was a guy in Germany, back in the 1930's, who didn't like a group (several, actually)... and he "told stories" to make that group look bad.
Look how that turned out... and it only took a couple of years
Whether it is intentional or not, the current narrative (re: men and patriarchy), is tailor-made to have the same effects... and is using the same methods... "pop culture".
Gina was perhaps more 🎯 than she knew, when she made that specific comparison.
It's no wonder that they gave her walking papers and tried to cancel her. She lifted part of the "curtain of virtue" and tried to show people what was hiding behind it.
Even more on target, that guy back in the 30's also hid his agenda behind a curtain of "virtue".
@ nyetzdyec3391
Was going to make a similar comment. Literature is even more infested than movies now with this particularly strange ideology. The only place to turn to good entertainment now is the past.
@@PrincessFionaYT These days, it's a real blessing to be able to enjoy the same book or movie (or TV show) multiple times.
“I don’t really understand how ideals like heroism, endurance, constancy and love can be out of date”
Well ya know the old saying; write what you know. Cant write what you don’t.
Exactly
I feel sad for kids who have a modern feminist as a mother.
Whatever their gender, they were probably trans'd to the other gender for their mothers woke points. Sadly.
Modern "feminism" is the epitomy of anti-family. In their hiveminds children would only be obstacles of their so called "cause".
And I’ll bet that underneath it all, mom is pretty tired and burned out.
Feel sad for the husbands, as well. Imagine living with someone who feels that she doesn't need you.
@@Osprey850 Honestly, I would blame the husband for being dumb and getting married to such a woman
Good video. Hopefully voices like yours will finally reach someone in Hollywood. Between shuttting down schools for years and the awful heroes and heroines they've been exposed to, I feel pretty awful for this generation of children. Let's hope this radical activist "entertainment" comes to an end soon.
West had already fallen.
Forget it, pal
The lefties will win and there we are; promoting extreme individualism (okay) and also, apparently, normalizing trauma (not okay)
I just don't like stories with "strong-female leads" who are selfish, unwilling to listen to feedback/advice, and is propped up to be the paragon of virtue.
Selfishness is not a virtue. Shunning wisdom is foolish. Truly strong women hold themselves accountable for their actions/decisions and aren't afraid to suffer for others. Women are just as imperfect and capable of change and redemption as the next person.
Exactly
The Bible says God created both men and women in his own image equally. I think that settles it.
@@chasehedges6775Hollywood representation of women is accurate for modern females.
@@Cussmem07 Modern Hollywood is garbage. Classic Hollywood knew how to do it
@@chasehedges6775 Not quite. Adam (whose name means "mankind" in Hebrew") was created at verse Gen. 2:7. Eve doesn't come into the equation over ten verses along the way. At Gen. 2:23 Adam says: "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." She is explicitly called "a helper" at Gen. 2:20: "But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him".
The point is, does Gen. 2 prevail over Gen. 1 - in other words, is the creation of man in Gen. 1 a trailer for Gen. 2? Or are those two separate events (as the myth of Lilith suggests)?
Once Hollywood was able to creat characters such as Beatrix from Kill Bill and Seline from Underworld , now they only can make Rey from Star Wars and Captain Marvel ( Marvel ) and you have to say "These are great female characters"
Today, nothing is earned, it’s all just Mary-Sue girlboss showmanship. And the men are hapless, washed-up, lacking in agency, and needing to be rescued, by a knowing-better female character.
I think the rise of identarianism in Hollywood is at the core of the issue. Once you start to believe that good and evil are not the product of what you do, but instead are an innate attribute of who you are that you were born with, then it becomes all but inevitable that your moral compass goes straight out of the window. Such a mindset argues that, if the group a person comes from is supposedly oppressed, then nothing a member of that group does can be an abuse of power or an expression of the oppression of others, because the oppression (actual or imagined, current or historical) of their identity in-group automatically cancels it out somehow. At the same time, if someone comes from a supposed oppressor group, then they are inherently stained with the evil of that oppression no matter how they live their lives or what they try to do to help others because the actions of the oppressor group they supposedly hail from - no matter how many centuries in the past - precludes any possibility that they can be anything but an oppressor.
Once that sort of mindset becomes your only lodestone, the idea that female characters are inherently pure and perfect (and men are inherently wicked and inferior) no matter how horrifically they mistreat others becomes not only acceptable, but pretty much unavoidable for someone steeped in the most absolutist of feminist ideology.
It's also absurd that the many female archetypes that we have seen in movies have been rejected and replaced for the singular yet stunted archetype that is the girlboss, we're not going to see actressess play any character other than the girlboss.
The modern female hero is shaped by a morality that used to be reserved solely for the villain. A vain and entitled lust for power. And damn anyone who dares get in the way of what they think is rightfully theirs. You know. A zealot. A villain.
Yup, exactly.
I think the worst thing in that whole debacle is how those activists are made to constantly fall upward. It's just stunning to watch. At this point I'm just entirely boycotting the whole industry until they come to their sense and start getting rid of those folks and create good stories again. That might take a couple years but it's coming.
One of the few unironically strong female character in recent media is Kim Wrexler. She is actually wronged by the patriarchy (literally HHM). She enjoys taking down and humiliating rich powerful men (Howard in particular). She works with a man who consider her his equal. And she pays for the consequences of her actions throughout the story.
Despite her self-rightenous activism, the audience still loves her because her universe doesn't bend over to present her as anything other than who she is. Kim is a masterclass of how a strong activist female should be written.
Kim was easily the best Character in better call Saul
As a man who doesn't want his masculinity questioned, i like your work.
How Hollywood has not learned their lesson after the Marvels, Madame Web, and the Snow White Remake is beyond me.
They don't make films for the consumers benefit. They make films for the state, currently heroism, strength, and self introspection are liabilities of the state. This is all for demoralizing the population into submission
Thanks for nothing, Hollywood
Cindel from Ewok's The Battle Of Endor(1985) is a better female character than Rey Palpatine, Captain Marvel, or Bo Katan
The stories a society tells itself are very important. Crucial, even.
Those stories inform/reflect the present, and shape the future.
Think about the future that *these* stories *are* shaping.
Think about a future "informed" by stories with heroes who are actually villains... and when real heroes are humiliated.
No one "informed" by this will want to be a hero.
Then, where will we be?
DEI= Destroy Every Industry
“Helpmate”
Hmmmm…..wonder where I’ve heard that before?
Almost like men/women were designed to work together buffeting each other’s strengths and supporting each other in areas where they uniquely struggle….
In Captain America: Civil War, Natasha openly supports the decision to be limited. Although with (legitimate) doubts, he initially agrees with the resolution which would allow the damage caused by clashes between Avengers and threats around the world to be limited.
We are talking about a spy and assassin who has carried out these dirty tasks for years, technically she should be against the agreements, but she has understood her mistakes (even independent of her and imposed since childhood) and is looking for a way to avoid further problems.
For this reason, perhaps, when she died I had a shiver: Tony was known to be gone, it was in the air. but Natasha's passing was unexpected and emotionally engaging.
You, my sister in Christ, are one of the smartest media reviewers on the Internet, and quite possibly, one of the smartest people on the net, IMO.👏🏾
Belief is the basis of morale. And Morale Wins Wars
Wrong. Logistics wins Wars.
@@panos617 Let me clarify: Morale Wins Battles.
Great content, and presentation, I'm a fan! The female perspective is always greatly appreciated, especially given the nature of the topics you comment on. The volume's a bit of an issue on quite a few of your vids though. Maybe get a better mic?
It's Shrodinger's Girlboss: simultaneously awesome, perfect, powerful, right, with nothing more to learn; and held back, belittled, obstructed and overshadowed by lesser beings in more powerful roles. She's just. that. good.
I'm optimistic that culture and worldview is upstream from attitudes, and bigger, more enduring in the psyche. Attitudes can change quite quickly when the authorizing environment changes - jobs, funding, political tribes, rewards and incentives, social cachet, clout etc. 20 years ago no writer or filmmaker would have got away with the nonsense of the past ?7-8 years. Recommend Jonathan Haidt's take on this, and Maio and Haddock "The Psychology of Attitudes". I live in hope that market forces will take care of the worse excrescences, and cultural mores or the zeitgeist will push it further.
Perfect Paragons Of Power don't need personalities, or character development, or values, or friends, or good stories.
... and now it isn't enough to put those "paragons" on pedestals... they want to dig trenches under the guys.
So much for trying to lift up both groups, hmm?
@@Nyet-Zdyes When Group A and Group B are portrayed as opposites of each other, putting Group A on top of the pedestal invariably corresponds to crushing Group B under the pedestal.
In a way, perfectionism over growth; girl boss & victim hood lacking humbling accountability. The best role model is the one with flaws, right?
A flawed hero/heroine is the best kind of protagonist
If you succeed through wit or skill, that's something that can be shown on screen. Other things kinda get into suspension of disbelief more. A writer shouldn't let themselves off the hook with magical solutions. For instance, giving Rey new powers. Or just having the main character grimace and then have their power level go through the roof (Eleven in stranger things).
the other issue with these "girl boss" types is that they typically are nothing outside of their hollywood bubbles. Trust fund kids who have never held a real job, or had any achievements, struggles, or life-challenges, makes them just arrogant caricatures. Most see thru it, but sadly, children do not, and they wish to emulate the mal-behavior.
The interesting thing with feminism, is that it doesn't want to admit how much it's borrowing from traditional gender sterreotypes.
if you look at the actual arguments given in the 19th century about why women should not work or engage in business, they were based on women's "purity", and "innocence."
Many traditional fairy tales (not all but certainly a majority), sleeping beauty, Cinderella, snow white, beauty and the beast, Rapunzel, the goose girl, the 11 wild swans, thumb Alina, have the female character start as good, pure and beautiful, and only need to endure circumstances long enough to find someone who recognizes that.
Compare these to male protagonists like Jack (both the beanstalk and the giant killer), Aladdin, Alibaba, dick wittington or the miller's son of puss in boots, who often start off described as poor, or even lazy, and who must redeem themselves through their actions.
Why is it that violence against women by men is always! much more condemned than the other way around (which is often praised), hedk the hole damsel in distress trope is predicated on the idea of female intrinsic worth.
So much in feminism, and especially the modern "me too", form of feminism, is intrinsically based on the idea of women having more intrinsic worth, and, women's suffering mattering far more than men's, since if it were based on equality, women would be considered just as disposable as men.
Of course, good stories go beyond the stereotypes, and write both women and men as flawed, real humans whose stories matter as you said.
However, I do find it interesting just in how much the modern, man hating Mary sue, is like the beautiful, untouchably pure princess of old, other than the princesses generally also being portrayed as caring and compassionate, while the modern Mary Sues are arrogant and abrasive. Plus of course, in the classic fairy tales women who were indeed evil, EG the wicked queen from snow white, Cinderella's step mother and sisters or Rapunzel's witch tended to get what they deserved.
I know I've said this on your previous videos on this subject: Excellent work. Over the past few years plenty of TH-camrs, men, women, young & old etc., has said this line or something similar: 'I could care less if the protagonist (and/or antagonist) is 'fill in the blank'...just give us a good story with awesome characters.' For some reason, when modern feminism hears that, the message becomes 'Death to all women!'. Wait, what?!
Nerdword, your problem with these female characters echoes my own: they're perfect, they don't have any flaws, they make dumb decisions but don't suffer any consequences. These characters are boring and one-dimensional...Rey Palpatine is an excellent example. When will this nonsense end? Because if it doesn't...there's a possibility that Hollywood could be no more. What really scares me is this...At some point there's going to be a change in the tide...A pushback to this modern feminism. How bad will that pushback be? THAT concerns me. 🤔
Edit: Apologies, something I forgot to add. All these "strong female characters" lack depth. Aside from power, what else is there? I'm kind of dumbfounded that whoever "created" these characters forgot this:
'Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely'
1:00 degradation of characters connected to warped feminist ideology is responsible for an “implosion” of entertainment
Women as perfect paragons of righteousness, men characters are weak and laughable.
3:00 reason 1 feminism is ruining entertainment is power
Emily Blunt said it best, something to the degree of: "Whenever I see "strong female character" on a script, I roll my eyes. It's so dumb and boring. I'm over it."
And it's not HARD to do. You wanna make a badass female character? Great! Just make her also have flaws. Make her fuck-up. Have people call her out on mistakes that get people hurt or almost killed. It is OKAY to have a flawed character. Katara and Toph I think are some of the most well written, badass characters, and they happen to be women. But just like Zuko, Iroh, Aang, Sokka, and all the other male characters... they mess up! They get angry and sad and are held accountable for their actions. But they're also goofy, funny, and silly....again just like all the other male characters!
We don't hate badass female characters. We hate badass female Mary Sues that can do no wrong and are infallible in every way and are good at every single thing they do. It's just...boring. And like Emily Blunt; I'm SO over it.
Make more characters like Ripley, Sarah Conner or the Black Widow. Strong, feminine but willing to learn from mistakes.
@@TheKyPerson👍
I agree, especially when we consider Wandavision. I rolled my eyes harder than ever when Monica talked about Wanda's "sacrifice," even though she enslaved an entire town.
My goodness...you've been the voice of reason among an endless flurry of shills defending this garbage. Been subscribed a long time...and honestly you need more notoriety. (Bonebridger!) Your honest opinion on these movies is always a welcomed take on the state of film...keep the content coming
Yes, the victimhood narrative is necessary to relinquish moral responsbility for the exercise of power. With great victimhood comes great irresponsibility.
I would’ve liked your review on Barbie
Feminism is Not 'Heroic'. Feminism prioritizes the the abstract idea of the perfect woman, and deceives itself that all women are that already. The true Heroism of a Man is an acknowledgement that perfection should be aspired to whilst accepting that most men are incapable and those few that get close must suffer greatly.
A Hero is fully prepared to fail and fall and die. Women are rarely seemingly willing to face destruction and ignominy at a personal level for a greater principle than themselves.
Failure and losing is a part of life.
It's not in a woman's nature to die for what they believe in, it's not very realistic to expect that out of them
@@elfascisto6549 It's human nature, tbh.
Feminism wasn't always that way, but that is what it's turned into.
A hero faces overwhelming odds in spite of being afraid to. THAT is courage. Being gifted by the screenwriter with total cosmic power is just a cover for weakness, both in character and in storytelling.
@@chasehedges6775 it's not a woman's nature to die for what she believes in. Some women have that but they are more the exception than the rule.
That aspect human nature is overwhelmingly represented by men rather than women.
I don't advise expecting women to do that, it's just unrealistic
👍🏾❤️ everything laid out perfectly in this video and here’s an easier take too many lesbians in the captain’s chair up in Hollywood
NARCISSISM🔄(Hero identity🔄Victim identity)🔄FEMINISM
I’ve lost interest in cinema as a result of the toxic feminism which permeates modern movie making. Surely they don’t expect men turn up with shamed bowed heads just to watch this garbage.
The Barbie movies exemplified EVERYTHING you talk about in this video....and it made a billion and a half dollars. What that is going to teach Hollywood? That they should double and triple down on all this modern feminist garbage, but wrap it up in a pretty pink package and tie it into women's childhood nostalgia. Things are going to get WAY worse before they get better. What a terrible time to be a movie lover.
I think the Barbie movie would have been better if they had made
The story in it about Ken going to the real world on his own and teaching the teen girl in the film how to become more confident in herself and become a happier/cheerful person. I think that could work.
Things are going to get way worse before they get better.
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Honestly was anyone else pleasantly surprised that Dune part 2 didn’t do a bait and switch 😊
They/Them IS the Kwisatz Haderach!
Maybe because the director & screenwriters are actually fans of the book.
This remind me of the firdt charmed serie. One of my recurrent thoughts about it was 《is it just females witches slaying demonic dudes or what ?》.
The good things was the writing was good enough to balance things at somes points.
+ about wandavision i actually loved this 😍 and i believe the 《inner good》work with her because of the empathy factor that made us focus on her pains more than her action....
The fight scene at 5:39 is so laughably terrible I would have thought it was a joke, if not for the fact that I'm sure Amazon was inordinately proud of it. As somebody who works a job that requires going hands-on with aggressive people from time to time, was a competitive wrestler in school, and has been professionally instructed in jiujitsu and boxing (and who did HEMA for about 10yrs) - there is a vanishingly small number of women I've ever seen who were anything but large, clumsy children, when it came to serious, actual fighting.
Even a professional female MMA athlete is going to get clobbered by a physically fit, reasonably-proficient dude who is likely to be 5-6 inches taller and 50-100lbs heavier. Put her up against some yoked-out 250lb specimen who is at the peak of his athletic and combative skills and she is going to get absolutely obliterated.
There are a few actresses with the physicality to pull off an action role. Gina Carano was easily the best of the last few decades. Milla Jovovich was pretty good for a skinny model. Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton were convincing as being gutsy and firearms proficient.
But most of these women are absolutely cringe-inducing when they're trying to look like hardasses.
Galadriel flailing around in that scene makes me cringe.
Entrainment for narcissists made by narcissists. When the narcissists say they're not making it for you they mean they're making it for narcissists. I e. People who think just like them.
In past years, Hollywood has been trying to compensate for perceived wrongs inflicted on womankind, and tend their wounds (Thanks, Harvey. Thanks, MeToo!). Hollywood thinks it is making amends by rebuking males, inserting females into typically male roles, and stripping heroines of their ‘weaknesses’, aka femininity and humanity. The result is an overpowered villain who faces no repercussions.
The success of Barbie has reminded us all that entertainment has genres for females, and genres for males (and that’s okay, Hollywood!). In time, cultural and financial concerns will cause moviemakers and showrunners to quit posturing and give the audience what they want, not what the Leftist-feminist interlopers insist they must accept.
Because they are "perfect just the way that they are". (SMH)
Poor Rachel Zegler, she's still only very young and that "Weird, weird" thing is going to follow her her entire life. Great video though 👍
It would be helpful to understand what social engineering is and why everything is made to suck now. It’s in everything
+ one thing i keep from this video is how modern writing is erasing moral values and so the ideology of what ls good and what is bad...
Think of the women's cultural progression as paralleling a victimized individual's psychological progression, from the original injury to healing and growth. There are seven phases:
1) the horrible thing that happened, and all the coping strategies that came with it.
2) denial - the horrible thing very certainly did _not_ happen, you can count on that.
3) accept that something terrible happened to you.
4) accept that the lack of one's own ability to respond properly to the terrible thing itself led to the lingering trauma. (Trauma stems from a state of powerlessness and lack of social support.)
5) accept (quite possibly) that one has victimized others in a similar manner to how one was victimized.
6) learn and change to the point that the original traumatizing experience would not be traumatizing.
7) accept responsibility for perpetuating the abuse to others in the past, set right your wrongs, and commit to change.
Feminism is a process like this, but at mass scale, and it's stuck in phase 3. Women's participation in their own subordination in the past (and present, in some spaces) is a very difficult thing to acknowledge. Much like children of abusive, neglectful, and otherwise dysfunctional families often grow up to be abusive, neglectful, and/or dysfunctional themselves, indicating that they were in a sense "infected" by the values, priorities, practices, beliefs, etc. that constituted the dysfunction that hurt them so much - it became a part of them.
Only by taking responsibility for their own lives will women come to peace. Blaming their suffering perpetually on a patriarchal abuser, even when that abuse has ended, hurts women most of all, builds up "the patriarchy" above all.
Great video, NW...👍
It's called overcompensation.
The scariest part about the victim / oppressor logic that you describe, where any action is justified in fighting the oppressor, is that it is not limited to movies.
Look at the people marching in support of Hamas at the moment.
They believe that Hamas is justified in its murder of innocent civilians because they are fighting against Israel, the oppressor, and as such there is no act that is too barbaric or evil as to be condemned.
Zeigler is not aesthetically pleasing as all I can see are those thumbnail faces because that's the real her. And that completely takes away from any desire to see her act in anything.
Can someone from Amazon please get this lass to read my next audiobook! Perfect voice for a 5 hour novel or research book! 👍
Disney's producers love Mary-Sue + Girl-Boss stories. This is why most super-hero movies of Disney in recent years are so boring.
So, your saying that Disney is responsible for the disasters called Barberella, Supergirl, Barb Wire, Tank Girl, Catwoman and even Eleckra?
@@gloriathomas3245 He said recent years. Just admit it, Disney has been pushing crappy feminist movies for the past 10 years.
Remember when we empowered women without putting men down? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
The tl;dr of this video is a description of the typical Mary Sue character in modern cinema 📽️
I highly recommend Literature Devil video on why Rey is a Mary Sue and Luke Skywalker is not that explains point for point what a Mary Sue is.
Edit: He also made one on the new Guyladriel which is also good.
I have some constructive criticism. I've noticed that I feel like I'm rushing through your videos, because of how fast you talk. Putting it on .85x speed just seem to improve it greatly. Thanks ❤
Yep, progressivism is all about power in society.
My own mother is a sociopath lie, cheat, steal, deny, manipulate and double down til the end.
I think your description of modern Hollywood feminism is spot on! I think it has also redefined a woman’s view of marriage, rebuked the role of motherhood, and looked down upon the role of child rearing. It has emasculated women.
Perfect 👏🏻👏🏻
Bo Katan is not an example of this as she has had 3 different series tell her character arc and it wasn’t always girl boss.
Anyone notice the idiotic expressions on Rachel Zegler’s face during that interview where she tears down the animated Snow White and anything that was good about it have become a meme for the social justice warrior rot that’s destroying entertainment?
ITS HOLLYWOOD BABY!
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😄
The animated Snow White from 1937 will always be a Disney masterpiece
Gina Davis portrayed the best badass female characters in both: A League of Their Own, and in The Long Kiss Goodnight
She was a bad ass, but still maintained her femininity, and valued family. I haven’t seen good female characters this well written since.
I think modern feminism is destroying itself. This attitude with movies and entertainment is putting people off not bringing them in. It's also not really feminism, but rather misandry. It's scapegoating and it manipulates the truth to paint all women as victims. Every time you get a "girl version" of anything, it destroys the credibility of all involved.
"At once female characters are the most powerful people in the world, and also the biggest victims possible" YES!!! We're supposed to believe they're amazing, terrifying, stronger and superior in every way, and at the same time feel sorry and bad for them? Boring! I'm not interested in that anymore!
what movie @5:09 is it xmen dark phoenix ?
The show about Wanda and Vision on Disney+.
@@dougsmith6262okay i saw xmen dark phoenix years ago
@@dougsmith6262btw is wanda a mary sue
Will s he EVER live this down, don't think so😂😂😂
My god, what was she thinking
This isn't really strange and new.
Fifty years ago... "Women need men like fish need bicycles."
Summarize that, without trying to be "funny".
Bicycles are worthless to fish.
This is *not* new... it's just more blatant.
(Edit - shortened.)
About thirty years ago, Guinness, the beer maker, made an advert for British TV. It started with that slogan on screen, followed by women toiling in mines, roadworks, etc. Then it showed an empty maternity ward, then a fish riding a bicycle. Now is good time to broadcast the advert again.
@@OvalRock I'd watch that commercial!
Buffy the vampire is a perfect example of a feminist show. Just because the women a lead doesnt mean its good the writing makes the show good instead of asking for better writing u asking to go back 60 years.
This should be a book!
Yet the avalanche of hot garbage still keeps coming.
Weird. Weird.
😂😂. That’s insanity
Demoralized populations are easy to control
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I need more videos like this
I genuinly blame modern Hollywood itself, rather than feminism. Hack writers and producers that are just stupid or lazy enough to keep hiring them to make a minimum effort jobs are the problem. They are pondering to the thing, not really adressing it or supporting it, that's all.
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What exactly is attitude
Wow.... spot on.. thank you NerdWord....
Nailed it.
They call that Feminism?
Your last question does actually make sense. History proves that's tyrants and other azz holes claim to be victims. One only needs to look at the modern claims of being replaced in society . This illusion is easily used by would be tyrants. Like you said , these ideas are used to motivate. The question is , what are the motives of these ideas. Its surely not to entertain 😂😂😂😂
There's a romantic comedy called Mr Right. The main female character's arc is she's unhappy in love, meets Mr. Right, and becomes a cold blooded killer.
We have an epidemic of obnoxious unlikable boss babes.
💯💯💯. Exactly
Brilliant.
I always thought it was funny how feminist cry about women having to be perfect... then when given 2 drops of power and only create perfect women 😂.
It’s sad that there’s hardly any good role models for boys to look up to.
Yes 🎉🎉🎉
Bankruptcy is the only way. The current crop of execs, directors, writers and producers are all ideologically captured. They got themselves into this mess and along the way got rid of all the truly talented and creative people that built a lot of what we loved. So now there’s no one left to get them out of this. On the bright side true talent and creativity will always find a way, whether in movies, tv, gaming or any other entertainment medium. Hollywood as we know it might be gone but there will be something else to fill the void. We’ll be fine, eventually.
If you strip away the specifics & dig down to the core DNA of the behaviour, it’s pretty much resentment born from immaturity.
It’s the same story over and over. When someone/something gets too much power they get corrupt.
i haven't gone to the movies in 6 months... I use to take my daughters one a month... they don't even want to see the movies out anymore...
Never been the same since they got the vote😂
This is not sustainable it’s boring and people will seek out entertaining movies from other places. Other than Hollywood the woke mine virus will destroy itfinancially.
Exactly
Who created the world that created these people?
You keep making the same video 😂
The parallels with other powerful self identifying groups is becoming palpable.
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I've never seen a more irritating and uncharismatic female character in a movie as Helena Shaw in Indy 5 The Dial of Decentering. She was so high on her own farts, I swear to Kali Ma.
The reason you KNOW this is purely ideology-driven is that there ARE ways to do this trope well - that aren't being taken. Take the Angelina Jolie 'Tomb Raider' movies as an example - her Lara Croft is an absolute stoic badass, an antihero who IS very nearly perfect and unstoppable. Very close, in other words, to the stone-faced super-bitches of modern cinema.
The difference? Jolie's Croft may be a badass, but A: she has a snarky personality that keeps her from being hatable; B: it's made clear that her badassery is the result of years of practice and training; we may be seeing her at the height of her prowess, but it took a good deal of work for her to get there, and C: no one else is denigrated in order to make her look good.
These are simple writing tricks that anyone with a half-decent grasp of narrative can pull off - but they go out the window the moment you start focusing on speaking points over character and story. We COULD have been having a new era of cool female badasses now, and, despite what some people are saying, pretty much everyone would be happy about that, except the screenwriters don't care about good writing, just politics - hence, what we're actually getting are annoyingly perfect super-bitches. Feh.
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