When I was shopping for a new car the salesman kept pushing these factory buy back cars that I would bet that they were lemons 🍋 glad I took a pass on those
4:52 your vehicle can get branded salvage from a fender bender or less If damage occurs to the vehicle and its value (per the insurance company's contract) is less than the repair cost...you can get the car's totaled value (minus deductible) and your car back....with a salvage branded title.
In some states such as Kentucky in order to buy that vehicle that meets those parameters you would have to used a licensed rebuilder because an individual cannot buy a salvage from a Copart or insurance sale. The car would be salvaged and would have to be inspected after repairs and meet the state standards such as Kentucky I went through this with my brothers Nissan and it was too involved to buy it for him even though the car had very little damage to the rear bumper cover and quarter panel. I could’ve worked it out in Illinois with relationships but I did not know the right people in Kentucky to make it easy.
I fortunately was only involved with one. A Red Daytona (1986). The car would suddenly shut down at highway speed with no established events. Nearly random. The only common variable was to be going over 60mph for over 5 miles. The woman got so frustrated she had someone paint it Yellow and daily put a Lemon sign on it. After changing all vacuum lines/computers/sensors/complete wiring harness - Chrysler finally bought it back. We felt bad - it had failed on us, it wasn't a hallucination. But we could only perform work as the manufacture specified. Especially since it was in litigation. People don't understand what happens when you simply state "I'll Sue you". They are now isolated at that place that could have helped them. 2 years later the same car - now Green - was towed in. Someone in Ventura bought it at a Long Beach Auction. Car ran great he said for near 18 months. City driving in Ventura and Oxnard mostly. First time he went out on 101 it died 30 minutes out. 15 miles away from us. We sadly said - sorry we can't help this car. He slowly drove it home after we reset the Limp In Mode.
@@kentbetts sorry? Chrysler Techs came up from LA and we had some of the best Chrysler electricians and emotions techs. Our dealership had helped discover issues and draft TSBs. Now ~40 years later we know other things that can cause odder issues from international. Like plastic bushings in a throttle pedal casting harmonics into a data wire.
There sure are a TON of newer vehicles online right now that show up on the carfax as being branded as a lemon. Over 65% of the 3-4 year old Mercedes Benz S580s I found online clearly show in the dealership listing and in the carfax that the vehicle title has been permanently branded with a buyback/lemon title.
Some buybacks are due to part shortages where the car is not able to be fixed in a certain amount of time set by the state, so it can trigger the lemon law. Can be common on new platforms.
One thing with lemon law buy backs is if you become that 4th or 5th owner and there are miles on the car after it was fixed then you have some history and ability to know if the car has really been fixed. There are times they do buy cars back because they don't have the parts to fix it within the legal constraints or they do get fixed properly. But I would 100% agree you don't want to be the first person buying that car after it was a buy back (fixed or not)
I've had problems in the past with cars with persistent misfires. The favourite response from dealers these days is "we plugged it into the obd computer - and it shows no faults. There's nothing else we can do" which in my mind means it's beyond repair. But in theirs means it's bad luck on you
What about buying a lemon for spares?" Neighbour had a green and yellow tractor that was a lemon the manufacturer just wanted to keep fixing it the last couple of months of the warranty the dealer got fed up with it so they pretty much brought it back for about £10k less than it was new gave them a deal on a new one as well so the difference was less than £30k then shipped it straight to France to let them deal with the issues.
@@z00h the dealer they brought it from brought it back and then promptly shipped it out the country as they were fed up with having to deal with it constantly.
@@SlipShodBob do you think you could reach out to that dealership and ask them if they have a spare dictionary which would allow you to check the difference between "bring" and "buy"?
@@z00h • cause someone to receive (an amount of money) as income or profit. "two important Chippendale lots brought £10,000 each" •take or go with (someone or something) to a place. "she brought Luke home from hospital" I presume you are aware that the past tense as well as the past participle of both buy and bring is brought.
@@SlipShodBob there are 2 options, one "absurd", the other "most likely". The most likely option is that you're pulling me leg. The absurd option is that you actually believe what you wrote there.
If the perspective buyer were to search the car's VIN, would something pop up to say it was bought back as a lemon? (further into the video) Ah. It's complicated....
If it was so easy to fix why did they buy it back? Not all buybacks are the same. During the pandemic and the supply chain crunch parts were hard to come by. Some vehicles were bought back simply because the required part would take more than 30 days to come in. Nothing complicated, no repeated attempts to fix the same problem just a problem getting the part to complete the repair. More than 30 days out of service and you can get a buyback.
Some techies are working the lemon cars to their advantage. Say a $50,000 Cadillac is bought back with 800 miles on it. The dealer couldn't fix it, because they are incompetent and don't want to bother and because they just couldn't solve it. So it is sold for $25,000, and tech guy fixes it. So now it isn't a lemon at all. It is a new Cadillac with 800 miles on it. I wager a lot of lemon cars are just tricky problems and failed indifferent repairs.
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When I was shopping for a new car the salesman kept pushing these factory buy back cars that I would bet that they were lemons 🍋 glad I took a pass on those
4:52 your vehicle can get branded salvage from a fender bender or less
If damage occurs to the vehicle and its value (per the insurance company's contract) is less than the repair cost...you can get the car's totaled value (minus deductible) and your car back....with a salvage branded title.
In Illinois, By state insurance law to buy back your damaged vehicle it Has to be at least 10 model years old.
In some states such as Kentucky in order to buy that vehicle that meets those parameters you would have to used a licensed rebuilder because an individual cannot buy a salvage from a Copart or insurance sale. The car would be salvaged and would have to be inspected after repairs and meet the state standards such as Kentucky I went through this with my brothers Nissan and it was too involved to buy it for him even though the car had very little damage to the rear bumper cover and quarter panel. I could’ve worked it out in Illinois with relationships but I did not know the right people in Kentucky to make it easy.
I fortunately was only involved with one. A Red Daytona (1986). The car would suddenly shut down at highway speed with no established events. Nearly random. The only common variable was to be going over 60mph for over 5 miles. The woman got so frustrated she had someone paint it Yellow and daily put a Lemon sign on it. After changing all vacuum lines/computers/sensors/complete wiring harness - Chrysler finally bought it back.
We felt bad - it had failed on us, it wasn't a hallucination. But we could only perform work as the manufacture specified. Especially since it was in litigation. People don't understand what happens when you simply state "I'll Sue you". They are now isolated at that place that could have helped them.
2 years later the same car - now Green - was towed in. Someone in Ventura bought it at a Long Beach Auction. Car ran great he said for near 18 months. City driving in Ventura and Oxnard mostly. First time he went out on 101 it died 30 minutes out. 15 miles away from us.
We sadly said - sorry we can't help this car. He slowly drove it home after we reset the Limp In Mode.
The car is probably fixable, except for finding a mechanic who willing to actually find the source of the problem.
@@kentbetts sorry? Chrysler Techs came up from LA and we had some of the best Chrysler electricians and emotions techs. Our dealership had helped discover issues and draft TSBs.
Now ~40 years later we know other things that can cause odder issues from international. Like plastic bushings in a throttle pedal casting harmonics into a data wire.
There sure are a TON of newer vehicles online right now that show up on the carfax as being branded as a lemon. Over 65% of the 3-4 year old Mercedes Benz S580s I found online clearly show in the dealership listing and in the carfax that the vehicle title has been permanently branded with a buyback/lemon title.
Lol at the younger Steve but thumbs up for the content!
Fortunate enough to have never been in that situation all of my cars, bought used, have lasted more than 10 years.
Some buybacks are due to part shortages where the car is not able to be fixed in a certain amount of time set by the state, so it can trigger the lemon law. Can be common on new platforms.
I think the beard really suits you, could use a bit of a shape up but other than that looks good.
that's wild I can't believe I bought an unbranded lemon
One thing with lemon law buy backs is if you become that 4th or 5th owner and there are miles on the car after it was fixed then you have some history and ability to know if the car has really been fixed. There are times they do buy cars back because they don't have the parts to fix it within the legal constraints or they do get fixed properly. But I would 100% agree you don't want to be the first person buying that car after it was a buy back (fixed or not)
They have lemoned cars because the Bluetooth would not connect to the owner's phone.
I've had problems in the past with cars with persistent misfires. The favourite response from dealers these days is "we plugged it into the obd computer - and it shows no faults. There's nothing else we can do" which in my mind means it's beyond repair. But in theirs means it's bad luck on you
Back when Steve played Stryker on MK..
What about buying a lemon for spares?"
Neighbour had a green and yellow tractor that was a lemon the manufacturer just wanted to keep fixing it the last couple of months of the warranty the dealer got fed up with it so they pretty much brought it back for about £10k less than it was new gave them a deal on a new one as well so the difference was less than £30k then shipped it straight to France to let them deal with the issues.
"brought it back for about £10k less"
where did they bring it back to exactly?
@@z00h the dealer they brought it from brought it back and then promptly shipped it out the country as they were fed up with having to deal with it constantly.
@@SlipShodBob do you think you could reach out to that dealership and ask them if they have a spare dictionary which would allow you to check the difference between "bring" and "buy"?
@@z00h • cause someone to receive (an amount of money) as income or profit.
"two important Chippendale lots brought £10,000 each"
•take or go with (someone or something) to a place.
"she brought Luke home from hospital"
I presume you are aware that the past tense as well as the past participle of both buy and bring is brought.
@@SlipShodBob there are 2 options, one
"absurd", the other "most likely". The most likely option is that you're pulling me leg. The absurd option is that you actually believe what you wrote there.
Nice beard
Can a Lemon buyback vehicle be financed
I learned a lot from you man, thanks a lot!
If the perspective buyer were to search the car's VIN, would something pop up to say it was bought back as a lemon? (further into the video) Ah. It's complicated....
If it was so easy to fix why did they buy it back? Not all buybacks are the same. During the pandemic and the supply chain crunch parts were hard to come by. Some vehicles were bought back simply because the required part would take more than 30 days to come in. Nothing complicated, no repeated attempts to fix the same problem just a problem getting the part to complete the repair. More than 30 days out of service and you can get a buyback.
A different kind of car washing
Some techies are working the lemon cars to their advantage. Say a $50,000 Cadillac is bought back with 800 miles on it. The dealer couldn't fix it, because they are incompetent and don't want to bother and because they just couldn't solve it. So it is sold for $25,000, and tech guy fixes it. So now it isn't a lemon at all. It is a new Cadillac with 800 miles on it. I wager a lot of lemon cars are just tricky problems and failed indifferent repairs.
Yeah, but they never sell for that much of a discount. Usually, dealers will knock 12-15% off the price of the vehicle only.
Not a bad beard. Mine is worse and I still wear it.
ahahaha all car salesmen FIBBBBBBBBBB