I agree this was overblown, i think youtube channels wanted to just ride the controversy and felt they had to put videos out about the subject to get views while topic was hot.
looks like a super quick sketch from a accomplished artist. 0 effort but still turned out way better than i could ever draw. concept art is usually kinda loose with proportions too.
I did not know about this crossover, it really is pretty weird. Shift Up/Hyung Tae Kim and Naughty Dog/Neil Druckmann are on completely opposite ends of the "should games be political or not" discussion. I didn't expect to see either of them care much about each other's works. The cynic in me is thinking this could be part of ND trying to appeal to fans of eastern media, the trailer for Intergalactic also has that vibe with the Akira references and the anime in the background. Let's hope it's less that and more of a genuine attempt to capture the things that people love about that media. For the main topic of the video I agree that the original artwork looks fine, I'm not a fan of the pose but it's clearly not the usual case of making women look ugly on purpose, just consequence of it being a sketch.
Personally, I think the first drawing looks perfectly fine. It’s not winning any awards it’s just fine, better than I could do anyway… The character in the Intergalactic trailer looks okay, to me it just looks like a more bland version of Jack from ME2
Best case scenario: The first picture was rushed as you said which makes me wonder why submit it. It’s fanart, so he could have taken his time to create portrait as close to Eve his style can permit. Worst case scenario: The artist’s first rendition was made to please Naughty Dog solely, not Shift Up or Stellar Blade fans while second picture appealed to the latter. I feel that an ND higher up told him to make an offering to Shift Up for relations purposes but because the audience felt it was half-asses, the company gave him more time to create the second.
Yea I speculate similar. I wouldn't have bothered to do it quick like that but I too wondered if it was some company request of some sort with time constraints.
Pretty sure it was rushed specifically because it was fanart. The piece isn't particularly important so he didn't see a need to polish it. "Oh the Shift Up guys visited us, I'll draw Eve for them real quick," bam.
The ND higher up theory holds water, given the guy is korean or of korean descent, so ND probably thought that it was a gesture of good faith to have this art trade by him instead of any other concept designer in the company, to bring more of a smile to Shift Up.
Nah that first piece is AGGREGIOUSLY BAD fam😂. Theres NO way around that. Look at the proportions and shape of her body. Her body wouldn't be able to turn like that with her legs facing forward. Its like a still inbetween frame for animation💀...aka it was NEVER meant to be seen by itself🤣
Exactly my thoughts, as well. I think people took it too far and this artist got a lot of unnecessary heat due to his association with Naughty Dog. The initial work to me, just looks like a sketch. It clearly wasn't meant to reflect the artist's ability, but it was more of what I would call a "fun work" he just did to unwind and have fun separate from his actual professional art. Imo the initial work was kind of like a gift and homage to the shift up team and not a fan art for the community. It was not necessary for it to be shared publicly especially on twitter of all places lol. Well, I don't think Shift Up anticipated that kind of reaction from the community when they shared the artwork. The artist definitely has an amazing portfolio no doubt about it, otherwise he wouldn't be in that position at naughty dog to begin with. I think he did the initial work with good intentions, purely as a fan of the game and as a fan of Eve and he didn't deserve the unwarranted backlash he got. People need to separate the individuals from the companies, just because they don't like what the company is doing, they shouldn't irrationally just go after any people associated with the company. He probably has zero say in the decisions and direction Naughty Dog makes for its games and even character designs. He's just an artist who creates concept art and illustrations for the given requirements by people like Neil Druckman. Mad props and respect to the artist for not lashing out and dispelling the hate by creating two more better quality fan works to appease the mobs. I think it is a lesson to us as well to treat people in the industry as individuals. As much as there's people who disrespect and lash out at gamers, there are plenty more genuine developers, artists, etc. that are well meaning and just want to create great games and characters that are loved by all, regardless of the company they work at.
Interesting you speak like you know the artist personally and can read his mind and know exactly what he was thinking when he was drawing, im super curious to know how you got all of this information that makes you so confident in your opinion.
@@ransargoyl6165 I think it is pretty obvious from the artist's subsequent actions especially with the backlash he got. I don't need to know him personally to understand his actions. Nobody looking for drama would go out of their way to put out more works ( that aren't commissioned mind you ) to appease angry fans especially when he has his own work to do as well. Guy isn't just a hobbyist, he's a full-time artist at naughty dog. As a hobbyist artist now who used to freelance, I can understand the kind of pressure that sometimes entails. Sometimes just indulging in sketchy artworks is a way of loosening up especially when you have a full time job. To go over what we know, we know that he made the initial artwork of Eve and gave it to Shift Up, he didn't upload it on his own portfolio or social media did he? At least as far as I know he didn't, you can correct me if II'm wrong. It is Shift Up that then posted that artwork on Twitter. When the artwork started getting backlash, instead of lashing out at fan gamers an and fans, he then went on to create not one, but two more polished works of Eve to appease the fans. To me those actions clarified his intent. He had no reason to find time to do not one, but two art pieces for something he didn't care about.
This is the only channel that's showing his follow up piece, I'm enlightened. All I know from years of being an artist is that you always gotta spend extra time on the face, even a small mistake there is super amplified.
I called it on a SmashJT upload. Ppl were raging and crying woke, whereas although I despise the woke movement I just saw it as a quick homage reminiscent of 80s airbrush art. The proportions were off but it was far from an intentional statement. We really need to stop looking so hard for outrage.
People talk so much about Intergalactic that we know nothing about except like few minutes trailer. The only thing that bother me is way that heroine have used clipper in the haircut scene... But anyway, my hype-of-the-year award is going to Expedition 33, and there only one thing that even close - Project Ceasar by PDX studio.
That concept sketch looked really cool and I like the face but yeah the pose and proportions were a little awkward at first glance. Cool for a sketch to get an idea out but maybe not something I'd leave in the portfolio.
What really gets me about the first sketch the guy did, is that it took a very feminine and softer looking character, and made it to look pretty angular, harsh and masculine. Which in itself, other than it doesnt capture the og vibe, would not be that much of an issue, if it wouldnt be so common nowadays to do this for ideological reasons alone, rather than it being an artistic choice. Would love to see your take on the intergalactic char. Would love to see her in a way that doesnt look like the bad guy in that kurt russel scifi movie "soldier". Great video.
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is it not obvious that the guy's style with thick strokes doesn't mesh well with faces that are small in the frame or zooming in in general? like he does concept art or something? all the other faces he makes are way bigger and look way better.
Nah honestly I didn’t like the first one at all I wasnt ready to start a rant on social media about a painting or whatever but the first one wasnt good
I'm no artist, but I had the same impression about the first piece. She may not have had Eve's classic look, but she's killing a monster--so perhaps a little rage is justified. There's not such a big difference in Eve's design that the artist's unique style couldn't account for the differences, imho. Or, like you said, he may have just rushed this one out a bit quickly.
As much as i love Stellar Blade i already dislike Hyung Tae simply for being such a shill for popular game studios just to get his business running even more than it already does. Theres really no need to simp for Neil Fu**man and Insomniac other than trying to get anything out of it. That together with the fact that they want to go public really has a real bad bytaste. Watch them go woke soon enough
They won't . Their entire company relies on money from their gatcha nikke which brings in millions every month . You put one bad looking female in nikke and people are gonna kill him lol
Normally you would be right in your take...but in this case you are being naïve. You say that many people are assuming the worse ...but you are assuming this was all innocent. Same coin, different side.
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I agree this was overblown, i think youtube channels wanted to just ride the controversy and felt they had to put videos out about the subject to get views while topic was hot.
looks like a super quick sketch from a accomplished artist. 0 effort but still turned out way better than i could ever draw.
concept art is usually kinda loose with proportions too.
Yeah, people made a big deal about a sketch.
I didn't even think it looked that bad.
I thought the first Tifa face was fine, but going back and forth a few times, you really did a good job on the glow up!
Thanks!!! Yea I guess I figured listening to feedback that if it can be better I might as well make it better.
I did not know about this crossover, it really is pretty weird. Shift Up/Hyung Tae Kim and Naughty Dog/Neil Druckmann are on completely opposite ends of the "should games be political or not" discussion. I didn't expect to see either of them care much about each other's works. The cynic in me is thinking this could be part of ND trying to appeal to fans of eastern media, the trailer for Intergalactic also has that vibe with the Akira references and the anime in the background. Let's hope it's less that and more of a genuine attempt to capture the things that people love about that media.
For the main topic of the video I agree that the original artwork looks fine, I'm not a fan of the pose but it's clearly not the usual case of making women look ugly on purpose, just consequence of it being a sketch.
Well Eve is gay but everyone was too stuck up her butt to notice
Personally, I think the first drawing looks perfectly fine. It’s not winning any awards it’s just fine, better than I could do anyway…
The character in the Intergalactic trailer looks okay, to me it just looks like a more bland version of Jack from ME2
Best case scenario: The first picture was rushed as you said which makes me wonder why submit it. It’s fanart, so he could have taken his time to create portrait as close to Eve his style can permit.
Worst case scenario: The artist’s first rendition was made to please Naughty Dog solely, not Shift Up or Stellar Blade fans while second picture appealed to the latter.
I feel that an ND higher up told him to make an offering to Shift Up for relations purposes but because the audience felt it was half-asses, the company gave him more time to create the second.
Yea I speculate similar. I wouldn't have bothered to do it quick like that but I too wondered if it was some company request of some sort with time constraints.
Pretty sure it was rushed specifically because it was fanart. The piece isn't particularly important so he didn't see a need to polish it. "Oh the Shift Up guys visited us, I'll draw Eve for them real quick," bam.
The ND higher up theory holds water, given the guy is korean or of korean descent, so ND probably thought that it was a gesture of good faith to have this art trade by him instead of any other concept designer in the company, to bring more of a smile to Shift Up.
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Nah that first piece is AGGREGIOUSLY BAD fam😂. Theres NO way around that. Look at the proportions and shape of her body.
Her body wouldn't be able to turn like that with her legs facing forward. Its like a still inbetween frame for animation💀...aka it was NEVER meant to be seen by itself🤣
Exactly my thoughts, as well. I think people took it too far and this artist got a lot of unnecessary heat due to his association with Naughty Dog. The initial work to me, just looks like a sketch. It clearly wasn't meant to reflect the artist's ability, but it was more of what I would call a "fun work" he just did to unwind and have fun separate from his actual professional art. Imo the initial work was kind of like a gift and homage to the shift up team and not a fan art for the community. It was not necessary for it to be shared publicly especially on twitter of all places lol.
Well, I don't think Shift Up anticipated that kind of reaction from the community when they shared the artwork. The artist definitely has an amazing portfolio no doubt about it, otherwise he wouldn't be in that position at naughty dog to begin with. I think he did the initial work with good intentions, purely as a fan of the game and as a fan of Eve and he didn't deserve the unwarranted backlash he got. People need to separate the individuals from the companies, just because they don't like what the company is doing, they shouldn't irrationally just go after any people associated with the company. He probably has zero say in the decisions and direction Naughty Dog makes for its games and even character designs. He's just an artist who creates concept art and illustrations for the given requirements by people like Neil Druckman. Mad props and respect to the artist for not lashing out and dispelling the hate by creating two more better quality fan works to appease the mobs.
I think it is a lesson to us as well to treat people in the industry as individuals. As much as there's people who disrespect and lash out at gamers, there are plenty more genuine developers, artists, etc. that are well meaning and just want to create great games and characters that are loved by all, regardless of the company they work at.
Interesting you speak like you know the artist personally and can read his mind and know exactly what he was thinking when he was drawing, im super curious to know how you got all of this information that makes you so confident in your opinion.
@@ransargoyl6165 I think it is pretty obvious from the artist's subsequent actions especially with the backlash he got. I don't need to know him personally to understand his actions. Nobody looking for drama would go out of their way to put out more works ( that aren't commissioned mind you ) to appease angry fans especially when he has his own work to do as well. Guy isn't just a hobbyist, he's a full-time artist at naughty dog. As a hobbyist artist now who used to freelance, I can understand the kind of pressure that sometimes entails. Sometimes just indulging in sketchy artworks is a way of loosening up especially when you have a full time job.
To go over what we know, we know that he made the initial artwork of Eve and gave it to Shift Up, he didn't upload it on his own portfolio or social media did he? At least as far as I know he didn't, you can correct me if II'm wrong. It is Shift Up that then posted that artwork on Twitter. When the artwork started getting backlash, instead of lashing out at fan gamers an and fans, he then went on to create not one, but two more polished works of Eve to appease the fans. To me those actions clarified his intent. He had no reason to find time to do not one, but two art pieces for something he didn't care about.
I feel like people don't know what concept art is.
My problem with the first piece is the emotion. It reminded me of USA Kirby's art boxes portraiting him with a angry face every single time
Eve should be showing strong emotions that's like the whole point of her character lol
@@frizen9328 Idk she looks pretty emotionless for more than half the game💀
@@no.1spidey-fan182 I said that was the point I didn't say they executed it well 🤣
This is the only channel that's showing his follow up piece, I'm enlightened. All I know from years of being an artist is that you always gotta spend extra time on the face, even a small mistake there is super amplified.
Yea the face is definitely a focal spot. I know I usually spend the longest on the face than anywhere else.
The original art wasnt even bad
Finally someone with common sense. By the way cool illustration man :D.
Thanks!!! I really appreciate it
I called it on a SmashJT upload. Ppl were raging and crying woke, whereas although I despise the woke movement I just saw it as a quick homage reminiscent of 80s airbrush art. The proportions were off but it was far from an intentional statement. We really need to stop looking so hard for outrage.
People talk so much about Intergalactic that we know nothing about except like few minutes trailer. The only thing that bother me is way that heroine have used clipper in the haircut scene... But anyway, my hype-of-the-year award is going to Expedition 33, and there only one thing that even close - Project Ceasar by PDX studio.
That concept sketch looked really cool and I like the face but yeah the pose and proportions were a little awkward at first glance. Cool for a sketch to get an idea out but maybe not something I'd leave in the portfolio.
The first piece was good! People are being dramatic over nothing. It had a good pose, composition and nice colors.
What really gets me about the first sketch the guy did, is that it took a very feminine and softer looking character, and made it to look pretty angular, harsh and masculine. Which in itself, other than it doesnt capture the og vibe, would not be that much of an issue, if it wouldnt be so common nowadays to do this for ideological reasons alone, rather than it being an artistic choice. Would love to see your take on the intergalactic char. Would love to see her in a way that doesnt look like the bad guy in that kurt russel scifi movie "soldier". Great video.
Yea I might definitely tackle the Intergalactic character. She was not intriguing to me at all LOL so I'll see what I can do.
And thanks btw!
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Fk yeah!
Very glad I subscribed after watching Asmons video!
Sometimes people get too worked up over molehills but it was funny either way.
Like it depend if it was a one hover image it is a great image. But they make it look like it is a great image from the master itself.
is it not obvious that the guy's style with thick strokes doesn't mesh well with faces that are small in the frame or zooming in in general?
like he does concept art or something?
all the other faces he makes are way bigger and look way better.
I really like your art, and I like your take on the subject.
A few gamers are whiplashing cause the woke stuff got them on edge. His original drawing was good.
Antiwoke "gamers" are so pathetic that it hurts
Nah honestly I didn’t like the first one at all
I wasnt ready to start a rant on social media about a painting or whatever but the first one wasnt good
@slatergaming908 nah. His original was good. It's just got a different style. I'm sure there are bad and great drawings out there too.
@ cant deny that i guess i just wasnt feeling the style
I'm no artist, but I had the same impression about the first piece. She may not have had Eve's classic look, but she's killing a monster--so perhaps a little rage is justified. There's not such a big difference in Eve's design that the artist's unique style couldn't account for the differences, imho. Or, like you said, he may have just rushed this one out a bit quickly.
As much as i love Stellar Blade i already dislike Hyung Tae simply for being such a shill for popular game studios just to get his business running even more than it already does. Theres really no need to simp for Neil Fu**man and Insomniac other than trying to get anything out of it. That together with the fact that they want to go public really has a real bad bytaste. Watch them go woke soon enough
They won't . Their entire company relies on money from their gatcha nikke which brings in millions every month . You put one bad looking female in nikke and people are gonna kill him lol
Normally you would be right in your take...but in this case you are being naïve. You say that many people are assuming the worse ...but you are assuming this was all innocent. Same coin, different side.