proper field goose set up with both a frames layouts bush lines and straight stubble. wind directions and also bring in small medium and large decoy spreads. a guild is not helpful if you don't have the decoys to spread out over a big or have too many decoys for a small u for example. possible talk about the early mid and late season as well but this might be multiple videos to get through all this info. Thanks Jon
So on one hand you are totally right. Shooting ability trumps all. On the other hand, not all steel is created equal. Brand doesn't matter but quality steel can have 50% or more pattern efficiently compared to the cheapest stuff on the shelf. A few dollars can really get you drastically better steel. It's the difference of hitting birds you are aiming at and patterns birds can fly through.
I've hunted ducks since the good old days of lead shot. Patterning a shotgun at 30-40 yards is very important . Brand X may have holes in the pattern resulting in cripples or no duck at all. While Brand Y brings home the birds and makes the hunts a lot more memorable, just my opinion.
At the onset of this video I have to admit I was skeptical. At 55+ years of wingshooting, I say bravo to you for pointing out the most relevant cause of missing or poor shots....the shooter. An older waterfowler once told me, if your shooting poorly, first tighten up that loose nut behind the stock!....and he was right.
I feel like the brand definitely matters. Some shell makers use fillers, less powder, lower grade powder, etc.....I've opened up different type of shells and you would be surprised what you'll find in them. With that being said. You can kill just as many ducks with a cheaper shell as u can with a more expensive one but. Your kill to cripple ratio might be a little better with a better preforming shell. This is my opinion and personal experience.
This is very true, but I do have my favorites too. Some shells just plain pattern better for me than others. With that being said I generally shoot 3inch 11/8 ounce loads at 1550 fps whether WW, Federal, Fiochi, Kent etc in shot size 2 for ducks and bb for geese. I only shoot 3 and a half shells from ww that are bbs at 1625 fps for long range geese. I only bought these because one trip to Wally World in the spring they had them on clearance for 8 bucks a box, the guy there told me they hadn't sold many so I should buy them all, sooo five cases later, and a butt chewing from my wife im set until im eighty.
I have been buying 2’s and 4’s in both 2 3/4 and 3”. I would figure that the 4’s would be good for most ducks. I will very much admit I am not a waterfowl hunter and this year will be kinda the first year I will really hunt birds.
Brand of ammo is very important. Professional shooters understand this. Lots of work goes into finding what patterns the best in your gun/choke combination. Just MHO
3.5" is plain stupidity. Why not just use 2.75" and hit what you shoot at vs rely on a magical shell to catch a bird with a couple poorly patterned flyers from a rediculous load?lol
I haven't tried that gun before, but I can confidently recommend a Girsan mc 312 if you are looking for an affordable shotgun www.girsan.com/shotguns/mc-312-c-69
A buddy of mine wrote it for the our youtube channel. It's an original. Maybe I will post the track on its own later for those of you who want to listen to it.
Try patterning these different brands on paper and then come tell me there’s no difference. Marksmanship comes first but your absolutely missing out if you’re not patterning your shotgun and finding the best shells for it
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Can you please about Crow hunting..?
proper field goose set up with both a frames layouts bush lines and straight stubble. wind directions and also bring in small medium and large decoy spreads. a guild is not helpful if you don't have the decoys to spread out over a big or have too many decoys for a small u for example. possible talk about the early mid and late season as well but this might be multiple videos to get through all this info.
Thanks Jon
I would like to ask you what is your favorite duck hunting weapon ?
@@HunterFromHauran Hey buddy, i use a super black eagle 2
@@schoolofthehunt8927 Very nice, thank you for this great reply
So on one hand you are totally right. Shooting ability trumps all. On the other hand, not all steel is created equal. Brand doesn't matter but quality steel can have 50% or more pattern efficiently compared to the cheapest stuff on the shelf. A few dollars can really get you drastically better steel. It's the difference of hitting birds you are aiming at and patterns birds can fly through.
I've hunted ducks since the good old days of lead shot. Patterning a shotgun at 30-40 yards is very important . Brand X may have holes in the pattern resulting in cripples or no duck at all. While Brand Y brings home the birds and makes the hunts a lot more memorable, just my opinion.
Reg federal speedshock works 90% of the time. Tss fills the gap for high altitude birds.
Ok number 4 but how many gram or ounce ???
“It ain’t the shells, it’s your aim!”
Had to be said…
At the onset of this video I have to admit I was skeptical. At 55+ years of wingshooting, I say bravo to you for pointing out the most relevant cause of missing or poor shots....the shooter.
An older waterfowler once told me, if your shooting poorly, first tighten up that loose nut behind the stock!....and he was right.
I feel like the brand definitely matters. Some shell makers use fillers, less powder, lower grade powder, etc.....I've opened up different type of shells and you would be surprised what you'll find in them. With that being said. You can kill just as many ducks with a cheaper shell as u can with a more expensive one but. Your kill to cripple ratio might be a little better with a better preforming shell. This is my opinion and personal experience.
Sure yes there are many deferences between brands
This is very true, but I do have my favorites too. Some shells just plain pattern better for me than others. With that being said I generally shoot 3inch 11/8 ounce loads at 1550 fps whether WW, Federal, Fiochi, Kent etc in shot size 2 for ducks and bb for geese. I only shoot 3 and a half shells from ww that are bbs at 1625 fps for long range geese. I only bought these because one trip to Wally World in the spring they had them on clearance for 8 bucks a box, the guy there told me they hadn't sold many so I should buy them all, sooo five cases later, and a butt chewing from my wife im set until im eighty.
I have been buying 2’s and 4’s in both 2 3/4 and 3”. I would figure that the 4’s would be good for most ducks. I will very much admit I am not a waterfowl hunter and this year will be kinda the first year I will really hunt birds.
Brand of ammo is very important. Professional shooters understand this. Lots of work goes into finding what patterns the best in your gun/choke combination. Just MHO
Steel shot is steel shot …. And 2 3/4 inch shells work just as good as 3 1/2 . Brand doesn’t make much difference at all
Completely agree
3.5" is plain stupidity. Why not just use 2.75" and hit what you shoot at vs rely on a magical shell to catch a bird with a couple poorly patterned flyers from a rediculous load?lol
i agree with you 100%
3.5chamer gun good?
I haven't tried that gun before, but I can confidently recommend a Girsan mc 312 if you are looking for an affordable shotgun
www.girsan.com/shotguns/mc-312-c-69
If you can't hit anything, brand is not important.
What’s about a crow hunting, best ammo, choke, some tips and other.. all best! :)
Song Name Bro?
A buddy of mine wrote it for the our youtube channel. It's an original. Maybe I will post the track on its own later for those of you who want to listen to it.
Open up a Winchester super x and tell me brand dosent matter 😂😂 there shot is all sorts of shapes and some bb’s have hole in them
Lead timing and accuracy is still the most important thing. I have killed birds with winchester super x just fine
Winchester Super x is garbage.
Try patterning these different brands on paper and then come tell me there’s no difference. Marksmanship comes first but your absolutely missing out if you’re not patterning your shotgun and finding the best shells for it
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