As a single observer who has been typed, it's weird af to me, like who gives a shit I agree to a degree but she just goes on and on and on and on. Just like it's probably weird as fuck for you to hear about my observer BS conspiracies
@@allenbro9900 Yeah for the other side of the coin a person having faith in their friends/family keeps them sane and ground in reality but when comes to something that they can't interact with like the government, global warming, A.I and etc then that could be the cause for observer freak outs. So everyone that you have met or have yet to meet in the future is already part of your tribe and you know you can negotiate or relate to in order survive or, even the ones that annoy you, but everyone else that's impossible to interact/befriend with is the "bad tribe" like the stuff of BS conspiracies.
Some personalities have underdeveloped extroverted feelings so I suspect that these types of conversations sound weird to them. When you don't really care about other people's feelings then hearing them talk about feelings seems weird. People who are in touch with this aspect of human nature know how important tribal relations can be. This is the glue which holds society together and when people stop caring and sympathizing with each-other the real-life consequences can be devastating.
Seeing Dave's talk about his 20's as a pretty young guy here really gave me some hope... I've been doing this same thing with my family, one by one I've alienated most of them due to my constant anger outbursts and grudges. Maturity will bring some change, I'd bet.
I’m an ENFP living in a dysfunctional family with what I’d call an abusive mom (more so psychologically and emotionally if you get too close) and an enabling dad who gives into her gaslighting day after day. I have an ESFJ friend with a situation closely mirroring mine, except her dad is the problem and her mom is enabling him. I, at around 14 years old, learned how to distance myself from my family mentally, emotionally, and (as much as I can) physically, and now that I’m in high school, I’m pouring all of my effort to secure a place in college so that I can leave this house and break off contact with my family forever. They don’t even feel like family anymore... just two people I live with who are only going to worsen my quality of life if I stay with them. My ESFJ friend, however, is trying to focus on how to fix her family and create a better environment for everyone. She’s been advocating for change amongst her siblings and even got the family together to have a conference on what’s going on. It shocks me how much she cares about a family that badly mistreats her... I literally just want to get out, lol. We’re such close friends, but our completely different responses just shock me often.
The one that Dave stated about his father gave me chills because I have been like that attaching so many expectations to a certain guy that I do not know of now. WOW!
When I first started watching your videos I thought your method was more confusing but now It's waaay more simple than anyone else has explained all this stuff
I've only ever "really" hated a maximum of three people at a time in my life, and they all sort of just dropped out of mind. I can get upset at people, and I can get upset at myself, then I'll rack my brain trying to make sense of it so I can cool my nerves and function properly again. I rarely hate people, or even dedicate special praise to individuals unless they did something in the moment - then the praise is lavish, but short lived. What *_really_* grinds my gears is when a _group_ of people are being dysfunctional, such as in traffic. I always preach that driving is a "team effort" and that it takes _two_ people not paying attention to cause a wreck; everyone is responsible for everything on the road. I'm happy to say that, for the most part, the city I live in is home to a generally safe populace of drivers.
@DrScream Conspiracy theories, upset about technology not working, tripping over shit on the floor and raving about it, sulking over changes in routine, feeling controlled and robbed of agency by circumstance, grumbling about stagnation on the environment, freaking out about society collapsing, and disrespect of authority figures.
@DrScream Yeah, pretty much. EP temperaments low-key want to get their shit together, but can't be arsed to be the ones to do it. At the same time, they believe it is their duty to discover and compare and question the world around them, and a more deliberate mindset of organizing gets in the way of that. Conversely, IJ temperaments need to live in an environment that is under control and gives them the freedom to move about with the parameters of known, properly digested information. IJs hate chaos - Ni types have visions that are violated when new sensory info gets in the way, and Si types are off their rockers when they come to the end of their known facts and have to make connections. IJs want to gather, but again, not at any compromise to their organization.
@DrScream Everyone has problems with everything. Where a function is on your stack is not necessarily a measure of its acuity - if it's a savior, you will be _very_ aware of how bad you are at it if it's bad, and you will feel totally responsible for improving it. If you are a double decider with a savior introverted decider, then you will occasionally take the opinions of the tribe into consideration. If you are an IP, then you will always be true to yourself and forsake the tribe if at any point their opinions conflict with your decisions. Does that make you a selfish bastard? No, you can still help others, but you'll hate it if it compromises your decisions in _any way._ EPs can see the imbalance better too; tribe opinions will be so low on an IP's priorities that they often won't be considered until it comes to bite them in the ass.
DrScream exactly! I’m an EP and I still get super annoyed with people, I still get socially awkward and I still have tension with people sometimes, but the difference is, I don’t think about it much and it doesn’t bother me as much and THING issues. I’ve never thrown a tantrum bc my teacher doesn’t like me, but I’ve absolutely thrown tantrums about cords being tangled up or LA traffic pissing me off. “WHY CANT THEY MAKE THIS ROAD GOING THERE AND MAKE THE OVERPASS GO THIS WAY?! IT DOESNT MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE?!” is a normal freak out for me.
@DrScream As an IXXJ, I can definitely admit to the control issue. It's primarily why I don't often want to lead, because I know I would be pushy about it. High gatherers are always telling me that I need to explore more and go to new places. Mostly because I spend my time in a new area going to the same places within the vicinity that I live in. I buy the same designated meals at fast food restaurants for years, only trying new things rarely. Not very Exxp of me, is it?
Hahahaha! Exactly how I feel about freakin’ audio books!!! And how they read ALL the detailed fine print... “Chapter, Title, Subtitle, Page #, etc.” Can you just start the freakin reading already!?!?,
wow thats interesting. i had this feeling watching this, I can't believe lisa would jump to the director hating her just because she wasn't right for the part... and then realized thats exactly what my friend who is an INFP does. and I always think both of them are rather immature but... I'm so immature about keeping a schedule!
I get these concepts, and I like how you articulate them. The struggle I am having is that, to me, what you call "observer/decider 'freakouts?...'" ...they're one & the same. The only reason one would be more observable to anyone else would be based on which side the observer is on at any given moment. 🤷🏻
Im totally with him. If you are worried if i hate you i do. If you want my approval you may not have it. If you double dont give a shit i love you and you have my complete endorsement thanks for not waisting my energy i need for actual real things. Now when we are both not sleeping or working we can do a mutual hobby together and point at random things of interest. If you dont have mutual work , hobbies or interests, why are you even trying to talk to me in the 1st place. This will be boring ! Go talk to someone who has .
"Observer freakouts" often come across as materialistic to me. 🤷♀️ Sometimes it even causes me to peg them as sensors when that's not necessarily the case. INTJ vs ISTJ in particular has been a difficult differentiation to me. Any tips?
INTJ gets annoyed due to some detail issue, like there’s suddenly a traffic that “shouldn’t be” at that time of the day, etc. ISTJ gets annoyed by what could be implied, like a simple statement about ice cream has them thinking you think badly of them and they react.
I think I am a single decider . Sure things bug me at times but it’s not that big a deal most of the time. For me it more like they hate me! 😂 or why like that one instead of me?! Or what did I do ? Chances are most of the time they would shocked I am so worried or angry it wasn’t even an issue with them.
Ok I see how I do this! Like I’m a dude and I play racquetball with two other dudes and my best friend who’s a girl. And we have a group chat where we say we can make it or not to the gym. For me if I say I’m going I’ll go no matter what. But one of the guys will FOR SURE go or be more motivated to go if my friend says she’s going. Like his motive isn’t working out for him, racquetball for the fun or the fact he said he would. But what gets him to wake up in the morning is whether or not a pretty girl will be there to play against lol it’s SO superficial to me that that is his deciding factor in whether to wake up in time or not. Lol
Before youtube's playback speed option there was the MySpeed app, which can go up to 5x. I needed the speaker to get to the point asap (likely Ne issue). It was when I noticed my impatience growing ragey with class lecturers that I knew I had to dial it back.
#cantrelate to people problems like that. I would never make a jump like he fired me because he hates me. Even if he did hate me, id look for something objective i did that he wouldnt like or something. Or be mad that i did everything perfectly or something
Parking! Don't even get me started...and the traffic! Geesh you'd think they designed the city for 50,000 people. Don't they know there's been a trend of highways...Since 1956! Eisenhower signed the Interstate Highway Act didn't he? Only Jeitwterfugs and paid Nigpipers live in cites don't you notice the houses when you go for a walk? There is a very distinct architecture of the buildings based on the time period they were built. What I always find interesting is how houses were bigger pre-Great Depression. Then the GI bill came along and all of sudden everybody could afford their own home. Naturally, it wasn't just industrialists and their heirs who were investing in themselves.
I think I’m INFP though did wonder if me being worried borderline- paranoid on what other people think and feel about me & how they behave, what they’re doing, pointed more towards being an Fe type. That said I don’t think I’m Fe as a lead, would more likely be Fe auxiliary. The Decider “people freakout” I relate more to than the Observer IxxJ freakout anyways
What do you think about people who have a very zen demeanor but still do the "this guy and this person and her and me" thing when they talk? Is that the tell of a Decider who's figured out their demons, or one who's just made their saviors work?
Probability is that at some point they are going to lose their zen and what they will lose their zen about is their demon function. I've become relatively zen, my family even have said so, because I used to be really nervous and not zen about everything. But then comes something like changing my schedule (I'm a teacher) and I freak out. I feel helpless and I don't know what to do
@@einsame_Maria Great point. I've been watching someone on TH-cam who seem to be relatively secure in his demons but very much does the single-decider talk. I wonder if it's a component of masculine Di - even though the tribe sucks, pressure for growth is on the self.
The MBTI likes to make INFPs seems like depressed emo girls, at home writing poetry. My interactions with INFPs is way different. They’re usually funny, self confident and kinda hippie/relaxed.
What Shan and Dave mean by deciders are people with lead De (Te or Fe). I don't see how and Fi or Ti lead would be freaking out over other people hating them. They would be freaking out about self identity.
But having last Fe or Te could make you have these De freakouts. For instance, if you have last Fe, you will tend to fear the tribe hate. Not every time, of course, because you'll repress it, but soon or later it will explode in your face and you'll freak out about people hating you. The Observers (single observer/double decider) have some balance between tribe and self and freak out about things, control and chaos. The Deciders (single decider/ double observer) have some balance between control and chaos but freak out about people (tribe vs self). In other words, you freak out about your first and your last function, because they're unbalanced.
Oh, getting angry about things not behaving as I want them to... >.< But in other news this lady seems to be the doppelganger of someone I know and it's creeping me out. And somewhere down the road my sister will tell me I'm crazy to think she's like this other person. :)
But the problem is that people do things that I would NEVER do except on purpose, so I assume (stupid me) I assume that they do it on purpose rather than just because they are totally oblivious; my world view was forced (eventually; took years) to accept that people can be oblivious rather than purposeful jerks. They do not see that they affect others. It never enters their brain. But that makes it even worse. They do bad things and don't even know it. How can they NOT know? Even if they are not out to get me, they are still getting me (the result is the same no matter the cause). Most people are not like that, but there are enough that you can't avoid them. The 1 percent that makes 90% of the trouble. Go watch Idiots in Cars on reddit if you need proof. Doesn't take long to encounter 100 people when driving, so you will hit that 1% oblivious to the world while driving. guaranteed. So, sure, people aren't out to get ME. They just don't care.
IP are self over tribe to intensely, EJ are tribe over self too intensely, both cause tribe/self issues. Compared to EP IJ have relative balance between self over tribe or tribe over self, although there will still be a slight imbalance in one direction there too, but not nearly as bad
Hey serious question for all you double deciders out there, do you have to imagine what other people want before deciding or you do just honestly ask for their opinions before making a decision. Also what type are you?🤔
I try to predict how people will react in a certain situation,next I asked them to know for sure if that's how they will react, then I measure that reaction against what I think should happen and go from there.
@@dylonias Right but what if they have a low play animal and have poor communication skills towards their own emotions. Like they expect you to know what they are feeling but will put zero effort in understanding yours?
@@TheNicMMc Sounds like they might just be a Thinker, or have a Feeling animal way down there. Outsourcing it to another person. I'd also be curious to know if that's how they always act, with everyone.
@@dylonias well everyone except two people. they both seem have play as second or first, but our manager has BP but the dynamic is even more distant with him.
I like watching you guys because I think this concept is beneficial but I hate how much you guys swear because it makes it impossible to watch your videos with kids. And really swearing all the time is unnecessary..
Shan dresses like she's going to be in the hunger games
lol
Lmfaoo true
It was strange to hear that Lisa's issues were "weird" because I can 100% relate to how she is reacting.
It feels like when you're can't use double observer and the tribe is not really working with you then it will result in these single decider woes.
As a single observer who has been typed, it's weird af to me, like who gives a shit I agree to a degree but she just goes on and on and on and on. Just like it's probably weird as fuck for you to hear about my observer BS conspiracies
Same
@@allenbro9900
Yeah for the other side of the coin a person having faith in their friends/family keeps them sane and ground in reality but when comes to something that they can't interact with like the government, global warming, A.I and etc then that could be the cause for observer freak outs.
So everyone that you have met or have yet to meet in the future is already part of your tribe and you know you can negotiate or relate to in order survive or, even the ones that annoy you, but everyone else that's impossible to interact/befriend with is the "bad tribe" like the stuff of BS conspiracies.
Some personalities have underdeveloped extroverted feelings so I suspect that these types of conversations sound weird to them. When you don't really care about other people's feelings then hearing them talk about feelings seems weird. People who are in touch with this aspect of human nature know how important tribal relations can be. This is the glue which holds society together and when people stop caring and sympathizing with each-other the real-life consequences can be devastating.
"Do you freak out/dig in more about people, places, thing's, happenings, or ideas?"
*"Yes."*
Don't listen to Dave & Shan. I AM out to get you.
I am waiting for you, sugar!
"now you can double down on your fears and be more afraid of people" way ahead of you.
lol
Seeing Dave's talk about his 20's as a pretty young guy here really gave me some hope... I've been doing this same thing with my family, one by one I've alienated most of them due to my constant anger outbursts and grudges. Maturity will bring some change, I'd bet.
I’m an ENFP living in a dysfunctional family with what I’d call an abusive mom (more so psychologically and emotionally if you get too close) and an enabling dad who gives into her gaslighting day after day. I have an ESFJ friend with a situation closely mirroring mine, except her dad is the problem and her mom is enabling him. I, at around 14 years old, learned how to distance myself from my family mentally, emotionally, and (as much as I can) physically, and now that I’m in high school, I’m pouring all of my effort to secure a place in college so that I can leave this house and break off contact with my family forever. They don’t even feel like family anymore... just two people I live with who are only going to worsen my quality of life if I stay with them. My ESFJ friend, however, is trying to focus on how to fix her family and create a better environment for everyone. She’s been advocating for change amongst her siblings and even got the family together to have a conference on what’s going on. It shocks me how much she cares about a family that badly mistreats her... I literally just want to get out, lol. We’re such close friends, but our completely different responses just shock me often.
The one that Dave stated about his father gave me chills because I have been like that attaching so many expectations to a certain guy that I do not know of now. WOW!
When I first started watching your videos I thought your method was more confusing but now It's waaay more simple than anyone else has explained all this stuff
yeah exactly 💯
I've only ever "really" hated a maximum of three people at a time in my life, and they all sort of just dropped out of mind. I can get upset at people, and I can get upset at myself, then I'll rack my brain trying to make sense of it so I can cool my nerves and function properly again. I rarely hate people, or even dedicate special praise to individuals unless they did something in the moment - then the praise is lavish, but short lived. What *_really_* grinds my gears is when a _group_ of people are being dysfunctional, such as in traffic. I always preach that driving is a "team effort" and that it takes _two_ people not paying attention to cause a wreck; everyone is responsible for everything on the road. I'm happy to say that, for the most part, the city I live in is home to a generally safe populace of drivers.
@DrScream Conspiracy theories, upset about technology not working, tripping over shit on the floor and raving about it, sulking over changes in routine, feeling controlled and robbed of agency by circumstance, grumbling about stagnation on the environment, freaking out about society collapsing, and disrespect of authority figures.
@DrScream Yeah, pretty much. EP temperaments low-key want to get their shit together, but can't be arsed to be the ones to do it. At the same time, they believe it is their duty to discover and compare and question the world around them, and a more deliberate mindset of organizing gets in the way of that.
Conversely, IJ temperaments need to live in an environment that is under control and gives them the freedom to move about with the parameters of known, properly digested information. IJs hate chaos - Ni types have visions that are violated when new sensory info gets in the way, and Si types are off their rockers when they come to the end of their known facts and have to make connections. IJs want to gather, but again, not at any compromise to their organization.
@DrScream Everyone has problems with everything. Where a function is on your stack is not necessarily a measure of its acuity - if it's a savior, you will be _very_ aware of how bad you are at it if it's bad, and you will feel totally responsible for improving it. If you are a double decider with a savior introverted decider, then you will occasionally take the opinions of the tribe into consideration. If you are an IP, then you will always be true to yourself and forsake the tribe if at any point their opinions conflict with your decisions. Does that make you a selfish bastard? No, you can still help others, but you'll hate it if it compromises your decisions in _any way._ EPs can see the imbalance better too; tribe opinions will be so low on an IP's priorities that they often won't be considered until it comes to bite them in the ass.
DrScream exactly! I’m an EP and I still get super annoyed with people, I still get socially awkward and I still have tension with people sometimes, but the difference is, I don’t think about it much and it doesn’t bother me as much and THING issues. I’ve never thrown a tantrum bc my teacher doesn’t like me, but I’ve absolutely thrown tantrums about cords being tangled up or LA traffic pissing me off. “WHY CANT THEY MAKE THIS ROAD GOING THERE AND MAKE THE OVERPASS GO THIS WAY?! IT DOESNT MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE?!” is a normal freak out for me.
@DrScream As an IXXJ, I can definitely admit to the control issue. It's primarily why I don't often want to lead, because I know I would be pushy about it. High gatherers are always telling me that I need to explore more and go to new places. Mostly because I spend my time in a new area going to the same places within the vicinity that I live in. I buy the same designated meals at fast food restaurants for years, only trying new things rarely. Not very Exxp of me, is it?
Hahahaha! Exactly how I feel about freakin’ audio books!!! And how they read ALL the detailed fine print... “Chapter, Title, Subtitle, Page #, etc.” Can you just start the freakin reading already!?!?,
wow thats interesting. i had this feeling watching this, I can't believe lisa would jump to the director hating her just because she wasn't right for the part... and then realized thats exactly what my friend who is an INFP does. and I always think both of them are rather immature but... I'm so immature about keeping a schedule!
I get these concepts, and I like how you articulate them.
The struggle I am having is that, to me, what you call "observer/decider 'freakouts?...'"
...they're one & the same.
The only reason one would be more observable to anyone else would be based on which side the observer is on at any given moment.
🤷🏻
You're an obvious observer.
Dave calling the company to speed an audio book track up is me
I guess uncalled-for rudeness for us is same as unnecessary inefficiency for you.
So much I agree with you. It's just so simple I dont understand why people dont get it
They're the same to me.
Im totally with him. If you are worried if i hate you i do. If you want my approval you may not have it.
If you double dont give a shit i love you and you have my complete endorsement thanks for not waisting my energy i need for actual real things.
Now when we are both not sleeping or working we can do a mutual hobby together and point at random things of interest.
If you dont have mutual work , hobbies or interests, why are you even trying to talk to me in the 1st place. This will be boring ! Go talk to someone who has .
"Observer freakouts" often come across as materialistic to me. 🤷♀️ Sometimes it even causes me to peg them as sensors when that's not necessarily the case. INTJ vs ISTJ in particular has been a difficult differentiation to me. Any tips?
Theres a difference between observer freakouts and sensory freakouts. I recommend watching Daves videos to distinguish between the two.
@@JOSEALGO Aha, very useful! It's pretty silly when I get caught up in thinking things are trying not to work, but it is what it is.
INTJ gets annoyed due to some detail issue, like there’s suddenly a traffic that “shouldn’t be” at that time of the day, etc.
ISTJ gets annoyed by what could be implied, like a simple statement about ice cream has them thinking you think badly of them and they react.
DMT.
J/K.
Don't do that.
funny how "Friends" was just a shit ton of deciders trying to understand friendship and people.
I think I am a single decider . Sure things bug me at times but it’s not that big a deal most of the time. For me it more like they hate me! 😂 or why like that one instead of me?! Or what did I do ? Chances are most of the time they would shocked I am so worried or angry it wasn’t even an issue with them.
Ok I see how I do this! Like I’m a dude and I play racquetball with two other dudes and my best friend who’s a girl. And we have a group chat where we say we can make it or not to the gym. For me if I say I’m going I’ll go no matter what. But one of the guys will FOR SURE go or be more motivated to go if my friend says she’s going. Like his motive isn’t working out for him, racquetball for the fun or the fact he said he would. But what gets him to wake up in the morning is whether or not a pretty girl will be there to play against lol it’s SO superficial to me that that is his deciding factor in whether to wake up in time or not. Lol
Before youtube's playback speed option there was the MySpeed app, which can go up to 5x. I needed the speaker to get to the point asap (likely Ne issue). It was when I noticed my impatience growing ragey with class lecturers that I knew I had to dial it back.
Chatoyancify yeah lectures talk hella slow sometimes but I just wait till the recording is up loaded and then I can manipulate the speed how I see fit
hellyah brother i trip out about people all the time... intp im pretty sure
Lisa Kudrow is INFP, right? No wonder I adore her (INTJ here). 🥰
5:47 I love that part, it was like made for me. Or against me I should say, you don’t hate me do you?
#cantrelate to people problems like that. I would never make a jump like he fired me because he hates me. Even if he did hate me, id look for something objective i did that he wouldnt like or something. Or be mad that i did everything perfectly or something
Maybe you're an observer. Or maybe you're peacocking.
Maybe because your first function is Ti instead of Fe (IxTP. Lisa sounded like a ExFJ.
Parking! Don't even get me started...and the traffic! Geesh you'd think they designed the city for 50,000 people. Don't they know there's been a trend of highways...Since 1956! Eisenhower signed the Interstate Highway Act didn't he? Only Jeitwterfugs and paid Nigpipers live in cites don't you notice the houses when you go for a walk? There is a very distinct architecture of the buildings based on the time period they were built. What I always find interesting is how houses were bigger pre-Great Depression. Then the GI bill came along and all of sudden everybody could afford their own home. Naturally, it wasn't just industrialists and their heirs who were investing in themselves.
lol seeing them decide about deciders is funny
Speed is crucial to and MF modality user having Audio first as a learning style
I think I’m INFP though did wonder if me being worried borderline- paranoid on what other people think and feel about me & how they behave, what they’re doing, pointed more towards being an Fe type. That said I don’t think I’m Fe as a lead, would more likely be Fe auxiliary.
The Decider “people freakout” I relate more to than the Observer IxxJ freakout anyways
I’m getting the “decider” thing. I’d love to be the decider that thinks everyone likes me. Is there such a thing?
It's more about interaction style. Introverts respond to conversations usually and extroverts usually initiate them. But yes shes an obvious infp
What do you think about people who have a very zen demeanor but still do the "this guy and this person and her and me" thing when they talk? Is that the tell of a Decider who's figured out their demons, or one who's just made their saviors work?
Probability is that at some point they are going to lose their zen and what they will lose their zen about is their demon function. I've become relatively zen, my family even have said so, because I used to be really nervous and not zen about everything. But then comes something like changing my schedule (I'm a teacher) and I freak out. I feel helpless and I don't know what to do
@@einsame_Maria Great point. I've been watching someone on TH-cam who seem to be relatively secure in his demons but very much does the single-decider talk. I wonder if it's a component of masculine Di - even though the tribe sucks, pressure for growth is on the self.
I have always been told Lisa Kudrow is an INFP, but she seems like an ExFJ in this clip. Am I nuts?
No you’re not nuts . I have seen her typed as both. I think it depends on the sight. MBTI sorted has her as an ENFJ .
The MBTI likes to make INFPs seems like depressed emo girls, at home writing poetry. My interactions with INFPs is way different. They’re usually funny, self confident and kinda hippie/relaxed.
Wrong?
Maybe.
Nuts?
Debatable.
😀
IxxPs and ExxJs are both Deciders, problems with people
I basically just had a decider freakout today... How does it feel for you single observers to not experience this? 😂
What Shan and Dave mean by deciders are people with lead De (Te or Fe).
I don't see how and Fi or Ti lead would be freaking out over other people hating them. They would be freaking out about self identity.
But having last Fe or Te could make you have these De freakouts. For instance, if you have last Fe, you will tend to fear the tribe hate. Not every time, of course, because you'll repress it, but soon or later it will explode in your face and you'll freak out about people hating you.
The Observers (single observer/double decider) have some balance between tribe and self and freak out about things, control and chaos. The Deciders (single decider/ double observer) have some balance between control and chaos but freak out about people (tribe vs self). In other words, you freak out about your first and your last function, because they're unbalanced.
The way that blonde lady speaks gets under my skin. Big time.
Oh, getting angry about things not behaving as I want them to... >.< But in other news this lady seems to be the doppelganger of someone I know and it's creeping me out. And somewhere down the road my sister will tell me I'm crazy to think she's like this other person. :)
you exposed me xD
This was about single deciders, correct? I.e. ExxJs and IxxPs?
also confused
Yes, that was my impression.
TinyLoaf96 right? Bc double deciders are hero observers but in this case they didnt bring the chart out this time haha
@@entropy8000 yeah im a double observer but i dont really feel like i can relate to this. but apparently i should
arrrrmmmmmffffffmmm. excruciatingly true. Now I have to go write a note for text tazing somebody and crawl in the closet.
Damn deciders and their weird language. Hahah
Please i am afraid about people XD
do you guys watch all your videos at 125% speed? idk why but i feel like ive noticed the people in these videos always talk really fast
She worries about how people feel that's called Fe Nemesis.
What number function is nemesis?
@@dallasj22266 5th
There's a 5th function now?
man
this human psyche shit is getting way too complicated.
It's been impossible for me to type myself lol
But the problem is that people do things that I would NEVER do except on purpose, so I assume (stupid me) I assume that they do it on purpose rather than just because they are totally oblivious; my world view was forced (eventually; took years) to accept that people can be oblivious rather than purposeful jerks. They do not see that they affect others. It never enters their brain. But that makes it even worse. They do bad things and don't even know it. How can they NOT know? Even if they are not out to get me, they are still getting me (the result is the same no matter the cause).
Most people are not like that, but there are enough that you can't avoid them. The 1 percent that makes 90% of the trouble. Go watch Idiots in Cars on reddit if you need proof. Doesn't take long to encounter 100 people when driving, so you will hit that 1% oblivious to the world while driving. guaranteed. So, sure, people aren't out to get ME. They just don't care.
Jimmy looks like George Lucas, minus the hair.
Is it true for all deciders and ExxJs too?
I thought the "freak out about people" are IxxPs because of the inferior Fe/Te
IP are self over tribe to intensely, EJ are tribe over self too intensely, both cause tribe/self issues. Compared to EP IJ have relative balance between self over tribe or tribe over self, although there will still be a slight imbalance in one direction there too, but not nearly as bad
Hey serious question for all you double deciders out there, do you have to imagine what other people want before deciding or you do just honestly ask for their opinions before making a decision. Also what type are you?🤔
I try to predict how people will react in a certain situation,next I asked them to know for sure if that's how they will react, then I measure that reaction against what I think should happen and go from there.
Both. I usually imagine what they think, which is not a smart tactic. Asking directly is the best move. Ne/Fi
@@dylonias
Right but what if they have a low play animal and have poor communication skills towards their own emotions. Like they expect you to know what they are feeling but will put zero effort in understanding yours?
@@TheNicMMc Sounds like they might just be a Thinker, or have a Feeling animal way down there. Outsourcing it to another person. I'd also be curious to know if that's how they always act, with everyone.
@@dylonias
well everyone except two people.
they both seem have play as second or first, but our manager has BP but the dynamic is even more distant with him.
True my boss is an istj... And oh god do i hate the way he talks soo slow... I really trying to finish hes sentences 😂😂
And im like oh god when will he get to the point😂
kinda like ppl with BPD?
5:15 LMFAO. Yes.
Ohh shot.... ( ._.)
I like watching you guys because I think this concept is beneficial but
I hate how much you guys swear because it makes it impossible to watch your videos with kids.
And really swearing all the time is unnecessary..