Man 4449 and 844 are just perfect together in my opinion. They raced and doubleheaded together, bet soon something else will happen with both the completion of the 4449s inspection, and 844s updates
Thanks for the footage of the 3751. It holds a special place in my heart. My grandfather worked on the restorationof the engine and would also be the fireman on occasion. Love the steam
In August and September 1992, Santa Fe 4-8-4 3751 leads a first Santa Fe Employee Special from Los Angeles, California to Chicago, Illinois and return.
I would have been in 6th grade when you recorded the 1989 video. I wish I had known about these steam locomotives running, I would have loved to see that!
The irony is that if they were to repeat something like this with these two locos, they would most likely be on the opposite tracks. 844 would be on the Palmdale Cutoff, while 4449 would be on the Cajon Sub. Interesting when you think about it.
So If anyone has "Steam to Los Angeles" from Pentrex, this part of the film is my favorite part. Because of 4449's chimes. I've been looking everywhere hoping someone got a different vantage point. And now, NOW I've found it
RE: 1989 -- I honestly don't remember, I was more concerned with getting to the next spot ahead of them. I knew my way around pretty well and knew most of the back roads. Plus, if I recall, it was a weekday. RE: 3751 -- most of the shots were local to my work, so again, knowledge of side roads came into play.
Great location at 5” but terrible camera operation. Also it must have been a cheap movie camera with old video tape. To bad you didn’t have a decent 16mm motion picture camera.
I will concede to the camera work, but as I mentioned, this was shot with a shoulder held direct VHS recorder (borrowed from my mother-in-law - all I had was an SLR...) Apparently, Kodak had just started producing consumer-grade hand helds in 1987, so were (probably) hard to come by and exorbitantly expensive.
Southwest quadrant of the 10 freeway and S. La Cadena Dr. in Colton, CA. Since then (2012-2014 ??), the east-west trackage has been elevated, eliminating the diamonds...
4449 wasn’t wearing its SP 6 chime on that run up Cajon. It was a five chime, presumably of CB&Q 2-10-4 origins, though I’m not all to sure about the wheel arrangement of the locomotive the whistle first came off of.
Ease up man. The 3751 was going the entire length of the Southern Transcon from LA to Chicago WITHOUT an auxiliary water tender, so preservation era logic tells you that those diesels were there to make the steamer’s fuel and water last for as long as possible so that they’d be able to cover as much ground as possible before having to top the tender supplies back up.
Man 4449 and 844 are just perfect together in my opinion. They raced and doubleheaded together, bet soon something else will happen with both the completion of the 4449s inspection, and 844s updates
Thanks for the footage of the 3751. It holds a special place in my heart. My grandfather worked on the restorationof the engine and would also be the fireman on occasion. Love the steam
Wish 3751 would pull a consist like that again, great video!
This is an awesome race! Interesting how this sorta resembles the Thomas & Friends episode Thomas & Bertie's Great Race of Season 1.
In August and September 1992, Santa Fe 4-8-4 3751 leads a first Santa Fe Employee Special from Los Angeles, California to Chicago, Illinois and return.
Yep.
UP 8444, SP 4449 and AT&SF 3751....three great classy ladies of the rails.
Great compilation thank you for sharing
Best trains are the up 844, up 3985, sp 4449, sp 2472, atsf 3751. Love that quintet of steam locomotives!!!!
I would have been in 6th grade when you recorded the 1989 video. I wish I had known about these steam locomotives running, I would have loved to see that!
I think the steam locos have a personality, soul, spirit. They're so "alive."!! I love trains, always have, just the steamers though.❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊
The irony is that if they were to repeat something like this with these two locos, they would most likely be on the opposite tracks. 844 would be on the Palmdale Cutoff, while 4449 would be on the Cajon Sub. Interesting when you think about it.
I wonder if the 4449 still has is sp 3 chime whistle today because I love that whistle.
Don't think so, I can't recall what whistle it has but it sounds like the 844's a bit.
It's a hancock 3 chime that came from an SP&S challenger. It's on 700 now.
So If anyone has "Steam to Los Angeles" from Pentrex, this part of the film is my favorite part. Because of 4449's chimes.
I've been looking everywhere hoping someone got a different vantage point. And now, NOW I've found it
Cool.
Perfect trifecta: ATSF 3751, SP 4449 and UP 8444 with original whistles all going to Santa Fe Depot in San Diego.
4449 did not have its original whistle in this
Neither did 3751, it wore a D&RGW 5 chime for the longest time
I really wish I coulda seen this in person.
can somebody tell me what happened to 844's whistle from then to now? it sounded soo much better here than it does now
The 844 has a different whistle on it now. It has a Big Boys on it, many say it's one of the 4014s old whistles
Southern Pacific Daylight #4449 and Union Pacific 4-8-4 #844 side by side on the Cajon Pass for 50th Anniversary of Los Angeles Union Station in 1989.
And then in 2007 they doublehead
4449 and 844 on the Puget Sound Excursion between Tacoma and Everett, Washington.
4449 sounds incredible in this!
Look it’s the Santa Fe 3751!!!🚂 9:56
Was that 3751 old ATSF 5 Chime!? It sounds like a D&RGW but i know its a ATSF 5 Chime
Amtrak superliner from there goes a train at 5:41
Very nice!
an F40PH cool that’s my favourite train!!!
I wish that the 4449 had her 6 chime still or the ATSF 3751 her 5 chime
5:41 what horn does the F40PH have?
Bruce Tharpe A Nathan P5A
New casting Nathan P5a
How horrible was the traffic for you in the 1989 race and going up to Summit? Also what was the traffic like with 3751?
RE: 1989 -- I honestly don't remember, I was more concerned with getting to the next spot ahead of them. I knew my way around pretty well and knew most of the back roads. Plus, if I recall, it was a weekday. RE: 3751 -- most of the shots were local to my work, so again, knowledge of side roads came into play.
When U Racing & An Even Bigger 4-8-4 Passes
Great location at 5” but terrible camera operation. Also it must have been a cheap movie camera with old video tape. To bad you didn’t have a decent 16mm motion picture camera.
I will concede to the camera work, but as I mentioned, this was shot with a shoulder held direct VHS recorder (borrowed from my mother-in-law - all I had was an SLR...) Apparently, Kodak had just started producing consumer-grade hand helds in 1987, so were (probably) hard to come by and exorbitantly expensive.
Where is this interlocking located at
Southwest quadrant of the 10 freeway and S. La Cadena Dr. in Colton, CA. Since then (2012-2014 ??), the east-west trackage has been elevated, eliminating the diamonds...
4:32
Where was the first shot of 3751 taken?
That was shot at the grade crossing on Kellogg Drive at Orangethorpe Avenue, Anaheim, CA (looking west)
Wish 3751 would have its 5 chime back on her.
Rule no one when filming - leave the zoom alone dont use it. Pretend it's not even there.
Sorry, first time having access to/using a video camera...
The union pacific is in first place
Who won the race?
8444 because 4449 stopped due to a hotbox detector going off about a hotbox on the engine
3751 DOES NOT NEED 3 DESEILS
I can’t take 4449 seriously with its 6 Chime
4449 wasn’t wearing its SP 6 chime on that run up Cajon. It was a five chime, presumably of CB&Q 2-10-4 origins, though I’m not all to sure about the wheel arrangement of the locomotive the whistle first came off of.
the bullshit part is that they put 3! diesels. behind the steam loco....with only some public carrages to pull 1 would have been sufficient insurance!
Ease up man. The 3751 was going the entire length of the Southern Transcon from LA to Chicago WITHOUT an auxiliary water tender, so preservation era logic tells you that those diesels were there to make the steamer’s fuel and water last for as long as possible so that they’d be able to cover as much ground as possible before having to top the tender supplies back up.