Does a High End Golf Ball Really Make a Difference? Pro V1x vs Strata Range Ball
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- What is the difference between a Titleist Pro V1x and a typical range golf ball?
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The REAL lesson here is regardless of the ball and distance, you still have to hit a good shot! A bad shot is a bad shot.
Exactly its hard to do a proper ball comparison without a really controlled test i.e taking out human error i could hit 2 pro V1's and have a difference in range of 20+ yards easily just because ill never hit them perfectly the same each time
10 dollars for a 100....u know what I'm saying! Breaking news this weekend "Driving ranges are seeing a huge spike in missing golf balls". LOL
Yeah Mat cracked me up when he said range balls are for free!!!!
Guess theres a reason why those "no range balls on the course" signs exist :p
Same omg 🤣🤣
No Lie...I was playing terrible this past weekend. Pulled out a range balls and everything improved. That is why I'm at this video. I wanted to know why they cost so much.
That was fun. Can you compare a “well used” ball vs. the same ball fresh out of the box?
I now understand stand why my dad always said it never mattered how much range time you did , real practice is on the course
Like Captain Ron said." If it's going to happen is going to happen out there boss "✌️⛳
I never realized or forgot how much less distance range balls went. Trying to dial in my distances while perfecting the swing...take it to the course, gotta remember to account for the better ball being played
wrong,it all happens on the range..most average golfers are lazy
Mad respect to the MowerMan, if not for him & those like him we'd all be playing shaggy, unkept goat tracks. You do you MrMowerMan.
Man I grew up on a goat track in East Texas 🙄
Could not tell you how many times that I have almost been hit while running the rough mower. It was like a golf ball magnet
I’m confident that any Range Owner grimaced/screamed following your comments regarding range balls being free/cheap😜🤫
Not all range balls are the same, but TXG just did a video comparing the Taylormade TP5 (not as long as the TP5x like the ProV1x) and a Taylormade Range Ball. They hit a Wedge a 6 iron and a Driver. The HARD cover and the HARD core (to make it last) had very different effects on the 3 clubs. This is what they found out and speculated:
1) With the Wedge, the HARD cover made the ball slip up the wedge's face causing a significantly higher launch and also the ball came out with only half the spin (5000 vs 10,000 rpms) and secondly, the HARD core, didn't allow the ball to compress with slower swinging speed wedges so the ball flew significantly shorter
2) With the Driver, the Hard core allowed the ball to be long off a driver (won't be Prov1x long) but it wasn't that short on ball speed compared to the TP5, but the very Hard cover, combined with a Strong lofted Driver face, they surmised created a slip and grip effect, generating MORE spin on the Driver, and thus the higher spinning Driver carried shorter than with the TP5. They also stated that if you fit a Driver with a Range Ball, and find a Spin Rate that is optimal (2100-2000) but then use a Premium Ball which will spin lower on a Driver, you may find that you now don't generate enough spin to stop curvature and your Premium Ball might fall out of the sky if you are lower spinning Range Ball Driver Person
3) The 6 iron tended to produce basically normal numbers (slightly lower spinning), but basically it was ok.
For me personally, these results had huge implications as the Driver spin numbers gave me information I needed to understand why my Driver with a Premium Ball could dive bomb hook as I was tweaking my Driver loft lower and lower to get that long flat flight with a range ball (which is higher spinning off the driver) but was just not enough loft with my gamer ball. It also confince me NEVER to practice my chipping & pitching with Range Balls because there is just ZERO grip with these balls and they do not come off the face a wedge with any grip that creates that lower flight - and thus you have not only no idea how your wedge practice with range balls will transfer to your real game - it actually hurts your real game because the shots will not come off the club face or land on the green in remotely the same manner. Practice your technique at a range with your mid irons - and then never use those balls again if you want to improve. My guess is that this Strata Range Ball may been range limited by design - or just hit 100,000x to much and had no life left.
depends there is range ball considered as " soft" by T where the ball will spinning way more than a v1, thus being shorter, my spin on 6i is generally 6000-6500 rpm, but with soft range ball, spin was 8000/8500 on TM, so +2000/+2500 compared to a prov1
The problem with using TXG is Matt can hit any ball 320+ with driver.
Great video. Depending on the range ball, there can be a 5-10% reduction in distance vs. a premium golf ball, per several different knowledgeable sources. When I go to the range, I'm less concerned about the distance with range balls than I am with ball flight and direction. I'm more focused on strike and accuracy. With all the rounds of golf I've played with premium balls, I pretty much know my carry distances, and can hit those consistently provided I've grooved my strike pattern with all my clubs.
Great info Mr. Short Game. It now makes sense when I am at the range before my round that the balls don't go as far as me playing. Just made me feel better about my game. Be safe and hit nothing but fairways and greens!!
UK viewer. Love your videos. Nice blend of great coaching tips and reviews, with a twist of an excellent light hearted , fun presentation style. Addictive viewing imo. Something for players of all levels. Thanks for posting.
it would have been a more intuitive comparison if you played scramble with the 2 balls.
I played Pro V1 for years, switched to Vice Tour and prefer the Vice Tour at less than 1/2 the price of the Pro V1. At age 72, I still carry a 9 index or handicap. The Vice has a Surlyn cover vs the Urethane on most “premium” balls and I prefer Surlyn for putting. I find the spin rate on Surlyn to be more than acceptable for my game.
I play Vice Pro plus and love them.
I use 2 types of balls.. A mid quality for practice or those "let me try something" shots.... And matches... Nice to see I'm sort of on to something..
Always fun stuff, Matt! I'm at a 5 hcp (for the moment) and I play mid-range urethane balls (under $35, eg Tour Response, Wilson Duo Pro, and previous generation B-RX mainly) and also the Titleist Trufeel and Bridgestone E12. Still haven't pulled the trigger to play just one ball, which I know I should do. But it's just fun to try other balls and see what they do! The ONE thing I know for certain is that there's absolutely no need for me to spend $47 a dozen for golf balls. Even the surlyn balls stop just fine on greens for me and perform well with pitching and chipping.
Try the Maxfli Tour X sold at Dicks or Galaxy, normal price $34.95 or 2 dozen for $50. ,but if you get their email ads or check their websites,you' ll find often during the week 50% off or my favorite Buy 1 get 1 free . I usually buy 2 boxes for $34.95 .
I find no difference than the overpriced " premium " ball. I'm a 1.2 HC.
Well done now to change It up by hitting each ball from the same distance, say 100yards/50 yards. Putting is another factor,elcheapo range balls don’t have much feel. (Like putting with a stone). Cheers!
I always wanted to see this test
Mr Short Game, you're the greatest!
Good video, brother. I appreciate the time you put into trying to help people. I swing in the mid 120s with my driver and I can tell you the ball makes a HUGE difference. I go from carrying it 315 - 320 on a good hit to carrying it closer to 290 with a range ball.
I play my home course and walk along the edges of fairways during my round. I find a ton of high end golf balls that mostly are new. A lot of wealthy people who don’t bother looking a foot into the rough for their ball. I haven’t bought balls in 4 years
I always knew there was a difference distance wise, but didn't know it was quite that large!!!! Thanks MSG.
This is a very important question because knowing how far you hit each of your clubs makes a huge difference in your golf game. Most us can not afford a trackman or gc quad so the only way we have to know this information is the driving range. If we do not know exactly how much driving range golf balls are limited we have no way to know how far we will hit the ball on the course. Not having this information is not fair to golfers.
Great video. Always wondered when using a SC300 or in my case a Mevo to dial in distances. Does using range balls matter? Those devices are supposed to use data and don’t track the ball. My drives with range balls always seem shorter than the course but I didn’t know if that was due to roll , the range balls vs premium ball or over estimating how far I actually hit it. Would love to see a video on that with your SC300.
I was told by a golf coach back in 90's that range balls usually go 80-90% percent of the yardage of a proper golf ball. When new that is. A big problem with range balls is that they might already be hit a few hundred times and thus don't perform the same. So no point in trying to figure out your club's yardage there.
Also, could you do the same with a Wilson Duo Soft or similar ball? Those are about half the price of a premium, but are pretty good in short game. But what's the difference in longer shots etc. (no point for me to try it myself as my game is so inconsistent).
I appreciate your videos. I am new to golf and been using my putter, 7iron, 5h, and my driver when I play a round with friends. Your videos help me find my way to play by keeping it simple & fun!
Talking durability, I found a MAXFLI straightfli on the course last year,put it in play the next day and played it for 129 holes before I lost it. It was virtually spot less despite numerous trips to the woods and cart paths. Been playing them ever since.
I'm 63 years old.Iv not lost much distance the last 10 years.I still hit my old 8 iron with stiff s300 shafts that I love around 155 yards.Iv always played the pro v .I bought some cheaper name brand balls.just to play around and practice with.With the driver they were al least 25 yards shorter on average.I could barely get 250 out of them of the tee with a driver and I felt like I was killing it.I did not know it was that much different.
Very interesting video MSG. I am a single digit hdcp. I have played with Pro V1, mid grade, and the cheapest grade ball about 7 years ago and i found that i could score in the mid 70 on all of those balls. I did my comparison by playing 3 to 5 competitive rounds with each type of the balls and they all worked out just fine for me. But my preference was Wilson Duo and the cheapest brand is the Nitro ball. So for me, i found that playing with Wilson Duo or similar balls or even Nitro is fine by me because i cannot justify paying the extra price at my playing level. But i am glad to see your testing here 👍👍
Choosing the right ball and playing it consistently has made a noticeable difference in my game. I’ve been playing the same ball model for a while now and I caved and bought some discounted 2 piece balls that were discontinued because I couldn’t pass up the deal. During my weeks of COVID indoor practice, I noticed a huge difference in how the discount ball performed against my regular ball when chipping and putting. I ended up giving the discounted balls away lol.
Thank you for this video, confirms what i thought. I play Snell MTB X and find my distances are always longer on the course vs range. I spend a lot of time on the range trying to dial in distances and gaps and find it extremely difficult to to figure out distance gaps on the longer clubs, have to test them on course to really know.
Thanks for this. Needed to know if the quality ball made a difference after the tee off.
I always figure if I find more balls than I lose, I am ahead. That's how I keep score. I used to live on a golf course. I've still got a half bushel of balls left.
Thanks man, it dose make a huge difference.
Yes there's a difference, buggest thing for most amateur golfers is playing the same ball, regardless of make/price point so you get a consistent result
Every now and then I pinch a half decent range ball to use for practice on the course. I don't see too much performance difference until you get close to hole. Distance is maybe slightly down, but overall I think you're probably better off with a brand new range ball than a beat up premium ball. Brand premium ball always wins, though. Just a matter of how often you can afford to replace them.
Unfortunately I’m not too worried about ball selection right now. I’m trying to get my slice fixed and then I’ll figure out what ball I’m using. But still love the video.
Thanks. This helped a lot with my ball selection.
How often, or how many rounds, before you change balls? (Assuming you don't lose them! :-) ) I thought you were gonna cut the two balls in half to show the physical difference... Thanks for the fun videos!
Good question, I play them until loose them or they get marked up. Would like to hear what others think. One of my friends said one full round but not sure if that is right.
Agree
That's why I'm using cheap premium balls
They perform well
For the most part. I like the Kirkland ball but there's no doubting it's 10-20 yards shorter than prov1x.
Nice review again, very useful.
What would you recommend for someone that loses a lot of balls (in addition to more lessons lol)?
Durability isn’t a concern, and maximum performance won’t be a good ROI either.
Agreed. So many 15 handicappers play comlete junk or refurbished balls. Dial in your swing speed at a local golf shop and get a ball that fits.
wished you could incorporate shot tracer, would like to se the flights. great vids, truly enjoy them!
Good stuff, thanks for the video.
There Is a HUGE difference if you are a reasonable golfer. It’s not about distance- it’s control. I play hard pan links - the TITLEIST AVX is hopeless at stopping as it just keeps on running. Whereas the TITLEIST PROV gives control and stopping power which is crucial if you don’t want to have to run balls into green from x75yrds with no idea where they will finish on that green.
However, in the winter in soft/windy conditions the AVX comes into its own and I revert back to that one.
The test should have been all shots side by side using the same club. That would give a better understanding of the distance differences. Use the club you normaly would for that specific shot and distance for both balls. Plus all range balls are not the same.
That's what I would like to see.
Matt. "if it was a better shot, probably would have went in." love it. also great video again. thanks.
High handicappers still chunk and shank Premium balls.
Interesting you made same score with both balls.
They can make a difference depending. My newer golf balls are much better than some brand name version. Seems simple but its pretty effective.
How about Pro V1 vs. Callaway Hex Tour Soft (the other ball available from COSTCO.)
Try comparing same shot distance with all irons instead of just playing the came. Too many variables while playing the course.
No, they don’t. It matters to reasonable golfers - just not you.
What course is that? Where do you live, generally? I am thinking you are in Southern California, with a couple of jaunts over to Arizona?
Trying to teach my granddaughter golf same age is Minnie short game can we get a few tips from her please,,,,,,😎
Bruh 😂. Your face when the mower guy came through 😂😂😂
The guy mowing up close while you are putting 🤦🏼♂️ never seen that. I’ve always seen them shutdown and wait for the golfer to hit
TXG just did a test based on custom fitting irons using range balls vs premiums balls. Wedge and driver big difference, remarkable similar when hitting 6 irons. Most dit’s are done with 6 or 7 irons. But god forbid you go for a wedge fitting with a range ball,
Imagine all the players that have been fitted with range balls, oh boy.
Truthfully for me as a guy who seriously can't tell a diff I play what I normally always play I use Wilson and Spalding products mainly due to comfort and their ridiculous spin
The generic brand is Vice right? What about Titleist Tour Softs? Are they quality Golf Balls cause they're my favorite
Great video Matt, who's the new guy? The guy cutting the grass he was steeling our fire😂.
Finally an answer to how much distance do I lose on the range with range balls. That made me feel better!
The range I go to the balls or beat all to hell. I'm probably losing 40 or 50 yards ⛳✌️
I play at my local golf course, Which has water traps on 12 off the 18 holes, I have a handicap of 24 so i loose 2 or 3 balls a round so i go for the cheapies.
it would have been better if you had compared inexpensive golf balls meeting required manufacturing standards (e.g Nitro balls) with the Pro V. ball. Range balls may not be manufactured to meet the same standards. Another interesting comparison that would be helpful to some would be a top qualify recycled brand balls to the Pro V. Many stores are selling recycled balls now.
Nice video bro. Thanks.
And here I am thinking maybe it's time I bought a box or two of ball instead of using the ones I've found in the bushes
Distance difference aside, how many shots per each ball from tee to the hole were shot? Surely that's where it also counts the most.
Hey Matt ; So when your at the range how do you truly know if your hitting the ball at the distance you think. Then you go out on the course and your hitting the ball fifty yards longer. Mmmmm no wonder my game is in the crapper. Love the videos even though I’m beyond help. Be safe my friend.
Was using a Top Tracer at the range the other day. I hit 4 AVX's among the range balls and the average ball speed was 6 mph faster.
Our range uses Floaters, wonder if they are close to a standard range ball?
Where is this course? Would like to play it. Thanks, good vid as always. 🏌️♂️
If I see a bruised up or crappy old ball at a course, I'll throw them in my bag and use them at the range. They usually go straighter and further than the regular range balls. Not really a contest though considering most of those range balls are ready for the trash bin.
Have you ever done a taylormade noodle review
As a blade player I can't use hard like brick balls (I still miss hit too many to take that level of abuse to my hands). Maybe they don't exist in the wild anymore, but my shag bucket is full of the old hard junk (replacing them soon). New era Range balls might be softer, I don't know, my last range session was about five years ago--and the balls were hard like rocks. No thanks.
Lets see a pro v1 vs the costco 3 piece.
Use Google.
you should have played both balls with scrabble format. It would have given better results on short game.
The 20 yard distance is less significant for you. I only hit 180 -200 yards off my drive's. The range ball would probably cause a few more strokes on my game. I have no doubt your skill level could make up for the lost yardage of the range ball.
Still playing Cut balls, other than the balata-like covers that can be easily shredded they feel just as good as any Titleist.
Lol, he’s dead on. I just got back from the range, they have strata balls. I’m a new golfer and today I was finally making some good contact with the driver, and it’s going 150 yards? With my current slow clubhead speed I hit my Pinnacle soft balls at least 200. My 7 irons were going 100, where they should be 150. I’m taking range time from now on as just practice time for contact and direction.
What about refurbished pro V1's?
My dad hawks golf balls. I have never thought about how much golf balls cost. If you guys wanna stop by and grab 30 or 50 balls, feel free 👍
Used AAAA Titleist TrueFeel off eBay for me. Half the price of retail and they get lost just as fast.
how does he not have more subs like let's get him on something
How do you like those kbs shafts? I just put some 125gram c-tapers in my mizuno mp-67. I feel like im playing ferraris now.
Ok any ideas on a decent ball if you tend to lose golf balls? So, a decent ball that is lower priced.
I always wondered just how far I could hit them at the range
Can you review the Trust golf ball please
Some range balls are designed to play shorter, not sure about this one.
all range ball are made to play shorter as 98% of course don't have 300+y range like on Tour, so you will generate less ball speed, and sope range ball in the soft category generates like tons of spin, even more than prov1 so you will even lose more distance
Through three holes your score was lower with the range ball by several strokes???
How about accuracy. I was told range balls were made to go shorter in distance but straight down the line. I got a killer slice. Maybe losing some distance to stay on my fairway would be worth playing with a range ball. ???
Sorry man, range balls still hook and slice. They probably spin less on short pitches around the green and don't compress as well off longer clubs but the still get side spin. Gonna have to fix the slice with the swing.
Bryan Lina There’s actually no so thing as “side spin”. The ball will always spin on the axis the golfer creates.
Can you do a video on how to quit golf?
He’s using a pos vs probably the 2nd most played ball on tour only behind the Pro-V1
The average golfer has a clubhead speed under 95mph with driver according to trackman stats. If you have a driver speed over 100-105, range balls will be very inferior, sure. That's due partly to being over compressed. Most are around 70 comp. But the average golfer with a handicap of 18 or so will see little to no benefit from a top tier ball, mostly because the increased side spin is damaging to them. Spending 50 bucks a dozen is ludicrous for those players if they can get similar performance from a 1-2 dollar ball. Then again, I like finding expensive balls in the woods, so I guess that's one benefit
so kirkland Signature V2.0 golf balls is no good? Dang it!
So what is the best ball for distance, soft ball or hard?
Depends on your swing speed. Faster the speed harder the ball
you are not comapring apples to apple, range ball are not allowed to be used in competive play, i think it would have been better if you'd compared titleist DT solo Vs ProV1X, titleist lowest prenium ball against titleist highest prenium golf ball, would have make more sense imo. Range ball are made to be way shorter than regular ball beacause most golf course don't have 300+y range so they need baall that don't fly too long.
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I wouldn’t take a 100 range balls from my local driving range if you paid me. The balls vary from really old to antique. I only go there to work on my swing.
If i didn’t loose at least a sleeve playing 9 holes would definitely use better balls but till then cheaper balls
Great Video
You must have hit a sprinkler head with the 4 iron Pro V. :)