Really happy with the results of these tests. These patina samples came out great. Hope you enjoy this final part of this mini series. Many more patina videos to follow, different colours, hot and cold patinas and even some Japanese patinas. Apologies for the length of these videos, the rest will be a lot shorter. Subtitles added for the muffled parts whilst wearing a respirator. Any questions please feel free to ask. Cheers all, Andy. ***100 subscriber give away coming soon***
@@jagboy69 Thanks WT... I might wait a while and make a few more pieces. I haven't had a chance to offer up the samples to the tree to see how they'd look yet. I need to do some more work on it as well to tidy it up a bit as it's still a little scruffy. I'd like to get a few more patinas under my belt as I still have a lot to learn. Especially the hot and cold ones that you mentioned, as some of those look really nice. I'd also like to try some Rokusho patinas which are supposed to produce some nice reds... I think the tree might benefit from something a little more vibrant than the colours from the ammonia which are fairly dark, although I really like No.11. Once I have done the next set, I will start working down the patina list and look for some brighter colours. I have much larger tree to do soon which should be a lot more impressive, but am waiting for some artwork from a friend to get started on that. I also I have a copper egg video to finish editing which should be out later this week, these will be added to the copper pile for patination later. In the meantime I need to buy more chemicals !!! Haha. Best wishes, Andy
Beautiful works of art. I deal with patina on brass on a daily basis. Seeing this in a controlled environment is really soothing to watch. The different reactions are a great way to determine the time frame of how patina is formed. #8 and #10 are my favorite. They would make great rings. Well done my friend, well done.
Thanks Thomas, I was planning a whole lot of these tests. Unfortunately I'm getting a bit sidetracked at the moment. I'm trying to keep the weekly castings going and haven't had 2 days free to cast and patina for a while. There are a lot of recipes out there that can produce a lot of interesting results. I'd especially like to try some japansese patinas with Shibuichi. (copper /silver alloy). I haven't got round to buying many of the ingredients yet, so it's kind of on a back burner at the moment. WorldTraveller has made some nice pieces using patinas on bronze, his channel's worth a look. Cheers Andy 👍👍👍
Another excellent series of videos! Your very thorough and detailed research, showing a clear comparison of results was both interesting and useful. Thanks again for sharing your work (and taking all that ammonia pain on our behalf!) All the best.
Thanks Stromness, I plan on doing a few more of these. Need to wait until summer though when I can do it outside... that ammonia was not a fun experience !!! Cheers Andy 😎
Wonderful video Andy..your pain has benefitted mankind. I am new to patinas and wanted to create a blue patina for a copper backsplash for our diy kitchen remodel. Now I know to try the water and vinegar spray to give me the color I'm after.
Thanks Portia, glad it was helpful for you mate. Just bear in mind the patina is only on the surface and will rub off quite easily. Rinse in a gentle stream of water, dry and lacquer several times to give a protective barrier to the patina. You may well get a different result using flat sheets of copper. Ensure the copper is grease free or the patina won't stick (that includes fingerprints). Polishing them beforehand should also give a better result. If you don't like the results you can always remove the patina and do it again before lacquering. If you have any spare bits of copper I'd patina those alongside your main piece. You can lacquer those first to see if it gives you the colours you are after before lacquering the main piece. Experiment with different lengths of time in the fume chamber. Longer lengths of time should give stronger colours and patination. Good luck, hope it turns out OK. Cheers Andy 🤞🥂😎
excellent series . Made a bronze ring and I was looking for this type of look . I'm trying the ammonia, vinegar and Celtic salt . Its cooking away as I'm watching your vid. Love the process. well done!
Hi Andy, This vid was in my "up next" list whilst watching the Ingot give away video (No I didn't win but I'll get over it lol) so I'll be watching them in reverse order, Some beautiful patinas and as I love working with copper I'll probably have a bash in the summer, Thanks for another great video and please don't apologize for the length of them, I think you underestimate the enjoyment and knowledge we get from them mate, ;@)
Right NOW I’m doing my 1st brass (and maybe future copper) knife handles, this is really helpful. I have vinegar/rock salt/mustard/ammonia fume going. The non-salted areas are really dark as of now, does it wipe off to reveal some bright metal when I rinse later.…or do I have to polish it off? Thanks for any thoughts!
Hi! Love this video. Question for you. After they came out of the dune and they dried, did you sand them before applying the lacquer? If so what is your process so that all of the patina does not come off with it? Thanks!
Love the video, I am trying this for a university project. I was just wondering what laquer you used to set the Patina? I have some pledge floor wax which I have used to seal spray paint before but worried it won’t work on the patina. Any advice would be appreciated, Thank you
That was going to be the next round of patinas, Dan... I got a bit sidetracked with other things, ammonia is horrible to work with, I'll revisit this another time though as there are lots of other patinas I still want to try. Maybe in the summer when I can do it outside... It wasn't a fun video to make that's for sure... Cheers Andy 🍺🍺🍺
No mate, I sanded the pieces of pipe and wiped them with alcohol before starting to make sure any oxidisation and oil from my fingers were removed. The finished patina is quite fragile and will rub off with your fingers. You have to rinse it very gently in water and then let it dry before adding lacquer to protect it. I taped the ends so that i could handle the pieces without putting grease on them. You could get a more permanent patina using heat, but without lacquer it will probably tarnish over time. Cheers Andy 👍
Really happy with the results of these tests. These patina samples came out great. Hope you enjoy this final part of this mini series. Many more patina videos to follow, different colours, hot and cold patinas and even some Japanese patinas. Apologies for the length of these videos, the rest will be a lot shorter. Subtitles added for the muffled parts whilst wearing a respirator. Any questions please feel free to ask. Cheers all, Andy.
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They look good Andy. Time to do the tree now?
@@jagboy69 Thanks WT... I might wait a while and make a few more pieces. I haven't had a chance to offer up the samples to the tree to see how they'd look yet. I need to do some more work on it as well to tidy it up a bit as it's still a little scruffy. I'd like to get a few more patinas under my belt as I still have a lot to learn. Especially the hot and cold ones that you mentioned, as some of those look really nice. I'd also like to try some Rokusho patinas which are supposed to produce some nice reds... I think the tree might benefit from something a little more vibrant than the colours from the ammonia which are fairly dark, although I really like No.11. Once I have done the next set, I will start working down the patina list and look for some brighter colours. I have much larger tree to do soon which should be a lot more impressive, but am waiting for some artwork from a friend to get started on that. I also I have a copper egg video to finish editing which should be out later this week, these will be added to the copper pile for patination later. In the meantime I need to buy more chemicals !!! Haha. Best wishes, Andy
Beautiful works of art. I deal with patina on brass on a daily basis. Seeing this in a controlled environment is really soothing to watch. The different reactions are a great way to determine the time frame of how patina is formed.
#8 and #10 are my favorite. They would make great rings.
Well done my friend, well done.
Thanks Thomas, I was planning a whole lot of these tests. Unfortunately I'm getting a bit sidetracked at the moment. I'm trying to keep the weekly castings going and haven't had 2 days free to cast and patina for a while. There are a lot of recipes out there that can produce a lot of interesting results. I'd especially like to try some japansese patinas with Shibuichi. (copper /silver alloy). I haven't got round to buying many of the ingredients yet, so it's kind of on a back burner at the moment. WorldTraveller has made some nice pieces using patinas on bronze, his channel's worth a look. Cheers Andy 👍👍👍
another meaningful video, I like the difference in the colors. well done
Thanks Skills, appreciate it mate 😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺👍👍 Cheers Andy
Another excellent series of videos! Your very thorough and detailed research, showing a clear comparison of results was both interesting and useful. Thanks again for sharing your work (and taking all that ammonia pain on our behalf!) All the best.
Thanks Stromness, I plan on doing a few more of these. Need to wait until summer though when I can do it outside... that ammonia was not a fun experience !!! Cheers Andy 😎
Wonderful video Andy..your pain has benefitted mankind. I am new to patinas and wanted to create a blue patina for a copper backsplash for our diy kitchen remodel. Now I know to try the water and vinegar spray to give me the color I'm after.
Thanks Portia, glad it was helpful for you mate. Just bear in mind the patina is only on the surface and will rub off quite easily. Rinse in a gentle stream of water, dry and lacquer several times to give a protective barrier to the patina. You may well get a different result using flat sheets of copper. Ensure the copper is grease free or the patina won't stick (that includes fingerprints). Polishing them beforehand should also give a better result. If you don't like the results you can always remove the patina and do it again before lacquering. If you have any spare bits of copper I'd patina those alongside your main piece. You can lacquer those first to see if it gives you the colours you are after before lacquering the main piece. Experiment with different lengths of time in the fume chamber. Longer lengths of time should give stronger colours and patination. Good luck, hope it turns out OK. Cheers Andy 🤞🥂😎
excellent series . Made a bronze ring and I was looking for this type of look . I'm trying the ammonia, vinegar and Celtic salt .
Its cooking away as I'm watching your vid. Love the process. well done!
Awesome videos, thank you for making them!! What kind of lacquer did you use?
Hi Andy, This vid was in my "up next" list whilst watching the Ingot give away video (No I didn't win but I'll get over it lol)
so I'll be watching them in reverse order, Some beautiful patinas and as I love working with copper I'll probably have a bash in the summer, Thanks for another great video and please don't apologize for the length of them, I think you underestimate the enjoyment and knowledge we get from them mate, ;@)
Thanks Mike that's really kind of you mate 👍🍺😎
Right NOW I’m doing my 1st brass (and maybe future copper) knife handles, this is really helpful. I have vinegar/rock salt/mustard/ammonia fume going. The non-salted areas are really dark as of now, does it wipe off to reveal some bright metal when I rinse later.…or do I have to polish it off? Thanks for any thoughts!
Hi! Love this video. Question for you. After they came out of the dune and they dried, did you sand them before applying the lacquer? If so what is your process so that all of the patina does not come off with it? Thanks!
Love the video, I am trying this for a university project. I was just wondering what laquer you used to set the Patina? I have some pledge floor wax which I have used to seal spray paint before but worried it won’t work on the patina. Any advice would be appreciated, Thank you
what would happend if you disolved the salt in the water instead of sprinkle it on ?? or maybe disolve it in the amonia
That was going to be the next round of patinas, Dan... I got a bit sidetracked with other things, ammonia is horrible to work with, I'll revisit this another time though as there are lots of other patinas I still want to try. Maybe in the summer when I can do it outside... It wasn't a fun video to make that's for sure... Cheers Andy 🍺🍺🍺
What’s best for a deep blue. I can’t seem to get a deep blue and only get green. What am I doing wrong?
After removing and letting dry, did you sand them down before lacquer?
No mate, I sanded the pieces of pipe and wiped them with alcohol before starting to make sure any oxidisation and oil from my fingers were removed. The finished patina is quite fragile and will rub off with your fingers. You have to rinse it very gently in water and then let it dry before adding lacquer to protect it. I taped the ends so that i could handle the pieces without putting grease on them. You could get a more permanent patina using heat, but without lacquer it will probably tarnish over time. Cheers Andy 👍
Did you end up working with any other patinas?
That water bottle sounds like an angry squirrel.