Gaming On a USB Graphics Card Adapter

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  • While clearing out a box of old stuff I found a PCIe x1 to x16 graphics card riser. Power by a USB and Molex cable, I knew that this wouldn't exactly provide the best gaming experience but I couldn't resist testing it out.
    0:00 Introduction and Setup
    2:15 Cyberpunk 2077
    2:52 Elden Ring
    3:27 Fortnite
    3:53 Forza Horizon 5
    4:28 GTA IV
    5:27 Red Dead Redemption 2
    6:10 The Witcher 3
    7:02 Final Thoughts
    Thanks for watching :)
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  • @lasskinn474
    @lasskinn474 ปีที่แล้ว +1411

    I think the usb3 is just a cable basically for connecting the pins, not doing anything 'usb'.

    • @HardWhereHero
      @HardWhereHero ปีที่แล้ว +55

      You can plug a normal USB device into the slot and it will work. I made a pc have "onboard WiFi " using one of these

    • @DrewWalton
      @DrewWalton ปีที่แล้ว +232

      @@HardWhereHero I very seriously doubt that.

    • @amnottabs
      @amnottabs ปีที่แล้ว +65

      iirc early models of this riser used HDMI to connect the PCIe adapter with the tiny PCIe x1 bracket, whoever was making these probably figured USB ports and cables were cheaper to source than the already cheap HDMI ones

    • @xleage
      @xleage ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Usb cables also increase the latency in that length especially for heavy resources like games

    • @janemba42
      @janemba42 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DrewWalton If that was then case the PCI USB expansion cards wouldn't be a thing. Windows automatically recognizes USB devices even through PCI expansion.

  • @zippys4256
    @zippys4256 ปีที่แล้ว +639

    I think the title of the video is misleading. It's not a usb graphics card adapter. They are just using the usb cable to transfer the pcie x1 signal. People should not try to connect the usb to a usb port.

    • @TigTex
      @TigTex ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Agreed. This is not USB at all although the cable used to transfer the pci-e data is a USB cable. Something like, "gaming on a pci express x1 riser"

    • @giaopx
      @giaopx ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I wonder what would happen if you connect it to a usb port

    • @bigjoeangel
      @bigjoeangel ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah, that's what I was thinking, I wonder if thats why it's a USB 3 cable, because it has more wires, not because its using USB protocols.

    • @t1e6x12
      @t1e6x12 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There are mining boards where you connect this directly to a usb port

    • @jantube358
      @jantube358 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I just wanted to ask why he didn't think to use this with a laptop. There are laptops with USB 3 and 4 and eGPUs are usually very expensive.

  • @mruczyslaw50
    @mruczyslaw50 ปีที่แล้ว +541

    I used this adapter with Radeon RX 470 on old 2008 compaq laptop connected with additional Mini PCI-E x1 adapter, and realized that it has PCIe 1.1 and the bandwidth limitation was so terrible the performance wasn't much higher than Radeon HD5450 which I also tested. But considering that this laptop had integrated GeForce 8200M G that actually is the worst DX10-capable GPU on the planet (about 4-5x worse performance than radeon HD5450 on Mini PCI-E believe it or not) it still was a good upgrade, although very impractical.

    • @detoi4371
      @detoi4371 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Holy crap, I had the HD5450. And you're saying it's 5 times slower than that??? Damn that's rough

    • @mruczyslaw50
      @mruczyslaw50 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@detoi4371 Yup, Bioshock Infinite is working in around 30-40fps on lowest with 800x600 on HD5450, meanwhile that poor geforce 8200m g gives less than 10FPS. You can get it to maybe 20-ish FPS if you overclock the geforce and set custom resolution to something under 640x480 but then it looks like crap. It even struggles to maintain 30fps with GTA SA if you set resolution to higher than 1024x768, and considering the native resolution of that laptop is 1280x800 and it came out 3 years after the game was released it's terrible.

    • @younglingslayer2896
      @younglingslayer2896 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@mruczyslaw50 Jesus Christ that cards terrible 🤣, makes the hd 5450 look like a gaming card

    • @richardstrikesback8798
      @richardstrikesback8798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, Mini PCIe for Wi-Fi tend to be really bad ones, otherwise your scheme would be pretty popular with some custom «gaming dock stations» for laptops. But it probably may work waaaay better with M.2 slots, designed for SSD. Most laptops with multiple M.2 are already gaming machines with dedicated GPU, though.
      Btw, I wonder, if modern M.2 Wi-Fi modules also utilize older PCIe standarts? Business laptops usually have several secondary M.2 slots, so there's still a hope for turning some robust Thinkpad or Latitude into a semi-decent gaming machine every Friday.

    • @couriersix2443
      @couriersix2443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would it be worth it to invest in one of those dedicated eGPU enclosures that have their own sff PSU and just connect to a laptop/nuc-sized desktop? Asking because on my local used market, there's a Gigabyte Aorus one with a GTX 1080 included for around $250 and I've really been debating on getting it, just unsure of how the bandwidth would be affected since it's basically a better version of the adapter referenced in this video

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick ปีที่แล้ว +134

    G'day Random,
    I love the surprises & giggles your channel gives me, it is always a better day with RGinHD videos

  • @bluethunder8383
    @bluethunder8383 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its always awesome watching you do off the wall stuff like this, the unthinkable 👍

  • @IIHydraII
    @IIHydraII ปีที่แล้ว +332

    I wonder how much better a USB type C version would be, with their 10gb bandwidth
    Edit: Yes guys I see it is still PCIE not USB, I was just curious as to whether or not the USB2.0 would have caused a bottleneck.

    • @Alex-qq1gm
      @Alex-qq1gm ปีที่แล้ว +125

      I don't think it's really USB. It's just 1x PCI-E that happens to be on a USB cable.

    • @ExpertTerminal
      @ExpertTerminal ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Not much better, you need at least thunderbolt to be capable

    • @jankus5133
      @jankus5133 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@Alex-qq1gm Exactly, this is not compatible with USB, just utilizing the cable. Actually if you plug any side of the riser to real USB, it will short and fry one or both of your components.

    • @flognort
      @flognort ปีที่แล้ว +10

      theoretically that is what thunderbolt is suppose to be, PCIE over usb

    • @user-hb2ib1je7j
      @user-hb2ib1je7j ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alex-qq1gm a philosopher of budget gaming. namaste.

  • @degu44
    @degu44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always good to see different potential solutions. thank you.

  • @crewinXeagles
    @crewinXeagles ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the kind of content I come here for. thank you so much for the laughs!

  • @MaChuKindaCrasee
    @MaChuKindaCrasee ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how utilitarian your desk set up is. There is something extremely cool about having a no frills set up.

    • @mmz12
      @mmz12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a test bench. Typically they have just whats needed to mount a board and some peripherals. They're open like that to easily swap components for testing. It'd be a terible idea to leave an actual full-time PC open like this in most cases as the cooling would be extremely inefficient.

  • @DaYoda191
    @DaYoda191 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'd be really curious to see you test those laptop GPU adapters. There's lots to choose from, expensive ones like the razer ones, and cheap ones that are like what you have there. So I'd be really curious to see what you can do with a decent laptop and external gpu

  • @simplygame7952
    @simplygame7952 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video, I really needed this because my pcie x16 is faulty and now I can use this method, it may not be perfect but works.

  • @andystech101
    @andystech101 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve always pondered on this but never put it into practice, well I guess I don’t have to now! Great video as always 🙏🏼

    • @prateekpanwar646
      @prateekpanwar646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can try USB-C

    • @andystech101
      @andystech101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prateekpanwar646 haha yeah cheers

    • @hentosama
      @hentosama ปีที่แล้ว

      its using the usb cables as data wires, not usb signal

  • @Frittentheo
    @Frittentheo ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Can you make a second test with the adapter in the upper pcie slot which is connected to the cpu? In the lower slot you have performance drops because these are supported by the chipset. So you measured not only the differences between pcie 4.0 x1 and pcie 3.0 x1. If you want, you can limit the pcie version of the upper slot down to 3.0 for the mesurements in the UEFI.

  • @yithanong7593
    @yithanong7593 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Very interesting. Would you consider repeating this with an older generation graphics card? Perhaps the difference would be smaller for graphics card like the GTX 1050, which, presumably would require less bandwidth on the PCIe slot anyway.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You need a card with a power supply connector because the adapter slot is only getting about 54W from the molex, not the supposedly industry standard 75W for an X16.

    • @ChrisD__
      @ChrisD__ ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@robertkubrick3738 An RX460 could work if it's limited to 50W. A lot of the red bare PCB ones are.

    • @elemkay5104
      @elemkay5104 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertkubrick3738 You could limit the clocks in MSI Afterburner, with a nice undervolt curve as well. However I wouldn't be happy running continuously 54W through that molex. I would want to limit to something like 40W max. You'd probably still get 70% performance.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisD__ I think my integrated graphics would beat a RX460 that was limited.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elemkay5104 It might not have been 54W through the molex, depends on how much the 6+2 connector supplies. 54W is just the standard molex maximum.

  • @MrYamazaky
    @MrYamazaky ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I've seen this a load for mining rigs but I would never thought about actually using it as a daily.

  • @mazedmarky
    @mazedmarky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very cool experiment

  • @Varmint260
    @Varmint260 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Love these random adaptors in HD! It's got me thinking it's been near a decade since I've played GTA IV and I really need to give it another go on my modern system.

    • @younglingslayer2896
      @younglingslayer2896 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel that

    • @johnnyblaze9217
      @johnnyblaze9217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gta 4 badly optimized so won't change much

    • @Varmint260
      @Varmint260 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnyblaze9217 I originally played GTA IV on PS3, so I suspect I'll be able to tweak it enough to get a better experience than that.

    • @johnnyblaze9217
      @johnnyblaze9217 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Varmint260 meh gta iv is very unoptimized even a gtx 1080 ti when it first came out was struggling to handle it so dont be surprised if its still runs like shit

    • @tezcanaslan2877
      @tezcanaslan2877 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Varmint260 play it on PS3 again,its better than other versions also pc version has some quirky bugs like the final mission being unwinnable until you cap it to 30 FPS

  • @mohamedbenguerraiche1616
    @mohamedbenguerraiche1616 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    There are mini pcie (pcmcia too) on chinese sites that are quite useful to bring life into an aging laptop. But they became quite expensive. Great video!

    • @-x21-
      @-x21- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually it's Express ExpressCard. PCMCIA was based on ISA. Later they replaced the ISA interface with PCI. This was known as CardBus.

    • @LRK-GT
      @LRK-GT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@-x21-
      There were no "PCMCIA" adapters, but PCI-derived "CardBus PC Card" can and has been "Bridged" to PCIe.
      The kits I've seen, have all been 'industrial' focused. (and very spendy) Note: PLX, ASmedia, and a few other ASIC manufacturers make bi-directional PCI-PCIE bridges.

    • @-x21-
      @-x21- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LRK-GT incorrect. Before the pci derived cardbus there were ISA derived cards. These were 16 bit.

    • @LRK-GT
      @LRK-GT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@-x21- communications breakdown.
      That is precisely what I expounded upon:
      No, there were not PCMCIA -> PCIe adapters (confirming your comment)
      But, 32-bit PCI derived CardBus PC Card, the direct successor to ISA-based PCMCIA, bridging adapterd did/do exist. (expounding upon 'ancient interfaces' being adapted to modern PCIe)

    • @-x21-
      @-x21- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LRK-GT Ah sorry. Yeah there's a ton of bridge chips for pci to pcie and pcie to pci for such applications.

  • @jonnernonerneanernonercool841
    @jonnernonerneanernonercool841 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the Shenanigans. I enjoy to watch them

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan1239 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to know.
    Thank you for this video.

  • @DrewWalton
    @DrewWalton ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've always wondered if this worked! I have a few of these from a mining rig that I never actually built.

  • @mariushmedias
    @mariushmedias ปีที่แล้ว +72

    This has NOTHING to do with USB, the adapter just repurposes a USB cable because it has the amount of wires needed to carry the data signals of a single pci-e lane and in general such usb cables are made with good enough quality control. Could have easily been two ethernet patch cables instead of a single USB cable, it would have just looked uglier and take up more space on that tiny adapter card plugged in the pci-e x1-x16 slot.
    You should edit the title of the video, I actually expected to see a USB video card (there are such cards).

    • @thrivingentrepreneur
      @thrivingentrepreneur ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Please, link a USB Graphic Card 🤣

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thrivingentrepreneur google usb to hdmi adapters, basically just for getting an extra display output.
      Theres thunderbolt 3 external pcie chassies tho too.

    • @barretprivateer8768
      @barretprivateer8768 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thrivingentrepreneur He's right, they exist, they're just not called GPUs. USB > HDMI / Mini HDMI is only one example of them.

  • @wrathofsocrus
    @wrathofsocrus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love seeing random hardware stuff like this to extend the life of parts you have on hand. Lots of mini PCs and laptops could put something like this to use. Great video, thanks!

  • @a.nelprober4971
    @a.nelprober4971 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this is genuinely fascinating

  • @FroggyTWrite
    @FroggyTWrite ปีที่แล้ว +35

    these types of adapters can be a good solution for older laptops

    • @mehmetmetinbaki
      @mehmetmetinbaki 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no they cannot be, because that USB cable still carries PCIe signal to a PCIe port. It is nothing but an extention cord. If you plug it to a laptop's USB port then the best case senario nothing will happen but be advised that you may end up frying data lanes of the GPU.

  • @_Manfat
    @_Manfat ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why would you not just plug the card into the x1 slot if you have it available? (obvs you would need to remove the bit of plastic at the back of the slot to fit it in, a 2 min job)

  • @tech1m502
    @tech1m502 ปีที่แล้ว

    I l ove this channel, the silly configurations etc is really funny idea =)

  • @DGCastell
    @DGCastell ปีที่แล้ว

    i was actually expecting way lower performance than that. crazy stuff!

  • @aoife1122
    @aoife1122 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hilarious... only a few weeks ago I've pulled a very similar adapter out of a "discarded" Lenovo ThinkCentre workstation (cept the power was delivered via a SATA to 6-pin PCIe power cable) and with it a Nvidia T600. The regular x16 slot was populated by some GT730. I wonder what kind of "expert" put this together. LOL

  • @geniusaur
    @geniusaur ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a good video for you, I recently acquired a lenovo thinkstation m920q and added a pcie adapter and low profile 1050ti. shockingly it works!

  • @troll_486
    @troll_486 ปีที่แล้ว

    they say we don't have answers for all the questions, but honestly you are closing us to that very fast

  • @pyre2596
    @pyre2596 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Dell PowerEdge R710, which has a PCI-E x16 slot but it's limited to 25 watts as opposed to the standard 75 watts on most boards. I thought it would be interesting to use one of these to hook up a 960 or a 1060 6 gig or something to see how it would compare to my desktop. But the performance here seems so bad I feel like you've saved me the hassle, lol.
    Great video!

  • @huzudra
    @huzudra ปีที่แล้ว +18

    These aren't really meant for putting a graphics card in a small PC that can't hold one otherwise, these are made for GPU mining. I'm using 3 of them at the moment in a mining rig. If you need to put a graphics card in a tiny PC you'll want a 8x or 16x riser. Otherwise if you can buy these with the cables they're a cheap way to get good USB 3.0 cables if you need a bunch for some reason.

    • @mozzjones6943
      @mozzjones6943 ปีที่แล้ว

      No shit lol

    • @huzudra
      @huzudra ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lurch7861 There's some pretty flexible and longer x16 and x8 riser cables available.

  • @CoMmAnDrX
    @CoMmAnDrX ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not USB, just using the USB cable as the connecting interface between the two cards.

  • @dangingerich2559
    @dangingerich2559 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used a couple of these with vertical GPU mounts to free up my x16 (2 wired as x8 and 1 wired as x4) for 10Gbe networking and RAID for my servers. This way, I have display capabilities through a x1 slot and enough slots for my SAS RAID and HBA and 10Gbe adapters. Windows Server (Hyper-V) doesn't need the gaming capabilities, and G210 GPUs don't really need the PCIe bandwidth. These PCIe x1 adapters work great for that purpose.

  • @highvoltagegaming4752
    @highvoltagegaming4752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your video from Jamaica 🇯🇲

  • @GeFeldz
    @GeFeldz ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I bet the performance would be slightly better if you put the adapter in the X16 slot, because that slot's directly wired in to the CPU PCI-E lanes.
    EDIT: the X1 slot is wired through the chipset and then using the chipset to cpu connection, which will add some latency.
    I know, i know, the premise is if you don't have an X16 slot, still it would be interesting to see the difference if any.

    • @LooseGripHandle
      @LooseGripHandle ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess latency would be reduced a little but the bandwidth would still produce the bottleneck regardless,

    • @razfaren
      @razfaren ปีที่แล้ว

      i have mining rig with this riser, put it in X16 slot, no difference with put it in X1 slot for gaming

  • @dhruvsharma3199
    @dhruvsharma3199 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you've been doing random gaming for years
    whether that's from hardware side or software
    keep it up with the random gaming 👍

  • @RedBerylFTW
    @RedBerylFTW ปีที่แล้ว

    I threw together an EXP GDC Beast egpu a few years ago for a now 12 year old all-in-one PC that I daily drive. The hardware itself is comparatively similar to a desktop, the dock connects through mpcie where the wifi card would be, and the performance is actually really good. I have no clue how that performance would translate to other machines because I've never transferred it, but I imagine it'd be very hit and miss for a lot of hardware. If these docks had a mobile option like expresscard, m.2 or mpcie I think it would be the most beneficial. The beauty of the egpu is keeping a portable machine portable or giving life to a really old machine that can take it.

  • @jesusvargas2580
    @jesusvargas2580 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put my like, because you did a review of GTA4, a forgotten but great game, 4real, thanks for that! 😎

  • @leecannotbesin483
    @leecannotbesin483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey great video! I noticed that you own/owned an I5 9400f and i wanted ask you if i should get one? is it worth it? and what is the gpu that is paired best with it? thanks in advance and i hope you have a wonderful day!

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s a great cpu. Would go nicely with a lot of GPUs. A used 1080 would be a good choice

    • @leecannotbesin483
      @leecannotbesin483 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RandomGaminginHD Thanks for the advice! but also if i pair it with new gen gpus would that be too much of a cpu bottleneck for examlpe lets say a 3070? I am sorry for throwing a million questions at you.

    • @younglingslayer2896
      @younglingslayer2896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leecannotbesin483 I know I'm not RGHD but hopefully I can be helpful anyway bottlenecking is hard to determine, higher resolutions/ higher graphics put less stress on the cpu opposed to higher Fps, sadly some games just lean on certain hardware
      My questions are what resolution ?
      And what games?

    • @leecannotbesin483
      @leecannotbesin483 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@younglingslayer2896 Well i do have a big game library that i cant fully enjoy at the moment its gonna be 1080p E sport and Trilple A game titles

    • @younglingslayer2896
      @younglingslayer2896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leecannotbesin483 3070 for 1080p is a bit silly but it'll work fine, if your not 100% set on that cpu I would suggest the i3 12100f instead then just cheap out on the card a little bit and grab a 3060ti or something from AMD

  • @711jastin
    @711jastin ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i still have like 30 pcs left in my toy box from my last mining operation, they run at pcie 3.0 x1, the best card you can go with them will be 1030 or 750ti.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I wondered what the sort of limit is power wise until you start to see huge performance dips

    • @711jastin
      @711jastin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RandomGaminginHD i did do some research on the power provided by the pcie slot, and it was from the 4 pin molex, which most of the time, people use a sata converter on it. the "safe"(i mean burning the board instead of the gpu) power draw will be near 50W or so. however, theoretically you can go up 150W if safety is none of your concern (i fried no less than 10 boards with my GTX 1060s at ~100W).

    • @airmicrobe
      @airmicrobe ปีที่แล้ว

      I used a few AMD and Nvidia cards, Nvidia card were working normally, 10 ~30% reduced performance, gt 1030 was the best for gaming.

  • @spahr001
    @spahr001 ปีที่แล้ว

    This actually worked far better than I thought. I might try this to use a low-end Nvidia card I've got lying around to provide PhysX support to my 'vintage' HD 7950.

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was weirdly strange and entertaining. I liked the video.

  • @helenFX
    @helenFX ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I tried to do this the other day for a Plex server because I wanted to used the two x16 slots for a LSI HBA adaptor and a 10gbe network card.
    Sadly the pcie1x slot wasn't enough for the card to do it's transcoding duty properly. The video-out would work
    without trouble so I was optimistic and it could transcode 1080p source video. 4K>HD was a complete
    impossibility though :(
    So i had to compromise and use a 5gbe network card (which can work in in 1x Pcie3.0 slot)
    I actually ended up using that adaptor ithout plugging it into the pcie slot (mine had pcie power slots as well) for a SAS expander card for 28 additional sata ports (so that I can have 40 drives in my computer and SAS expanders can be daisy chained.

    • @mttkl
      @mttkl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, I was thinking of using these with a splitter for a 10Gbe card and a GPU for transcoding (this server only has one PCIe slot sadly). I guess I'll have to find an alternative or move my media server and GPU to my NAS :/
      How's the performance with the LSI card tho?

    • @helenFX
      @helenFX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mttkl I am extremely happy with the lsi card (I bought a 2nd hand one that had been flashed to IT mode so that it works as a host-bus-adaptor - otherwise it can only be used for RAID configurations out of the box)
      I've had a lot of SMR hdds that would regularly drop off (until a reboot) using a basic consumer level pcie>sata card. That doesn't happen at all with LSI controller and I can barely tell that these are SMR drives compared to how they were before.
      the biggest problem is that the LSI card I have is pcie2.0 so it pretty much *has* to have access to all 16 lines for it to work properly. You can probably get new (but really expensive) pcie3 or pcie4 cards.
      10gbe networking is kind of overkill for HDD storage. YOu can get 5gbe usb adaptors that might meet your needs.
      I think that you need a motherboard that explicitly supports pcie bifurcation in order to split pcie slots in the way that you are thinking - I don't know of any consumer boards that do.

    • @mttkl
      @mttkl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@helenFX Thank you for the thorough reply!
      Hopefully I'll be able to get a cheap LSI card soon and a motherboard with more PCIe slots too :)
      Never heard good things of those PCIe to Sata cards, will definitely avoid, specially when running TrueNAS Core.
      Yup, 10Gbe is totally overkill for me as I don't even use an SSD write/read cache, but I cant really find any 5Gbe card here and the only other option is going 2.5Gbe (or going the more expensive route with SFP).
      Thing is, the only 2.5Gbe card I can find, while enough for me, is literally the same price as a RJ45 10Gbe card, so I might as well just go with 10Gbe one and have that headroom for future storage upgrades.
      I think my personal B550 board supports bifurcation, but I'm not so sure about the one I have in my server as it's OEM and basic, but I already was planning on replacing it in the future.

  • @paulzpcs7986
    @paulzpcs7986 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bit of gear intended for mining rigs, got a load of them lying around, I did try this exact thing out and it was terrible 😅

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it’s not ideal haha

    • @felipekfcosta
      @felipekfcosta ปีที่แล้ว

      It is also useful for laptops with bad integrated graphics, even if you lose about 50% of the card's performance, it may still be worth it. I used to game like that long ago with a previous version of this adpater which used the ExpressCard slot to connect.

  • @leandrotami
    @leandrotami ปีที่แล้ว

    this is amazing and absolutely usable! specially for those with notebooks that have built in Intel graphics or stuff like that.

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 ปีที่แล้ว

      it requires the PCIE x1 slot to work still sadly. it's not following USB protocol in any way

  • @fredwupkensoppel8949
    @fredwupkensoppel8949 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one of those after the last mining bust; I use it to plug my HD4350 in my very crammed server whenever I need to access the BIOS settings. Worked every time so far.

  • @TheSpotify95
    @TheSpotify95 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting. I wouldn't want to use one of these full time, but having said that, I've found a use case for one of these.
    If you have a laptop with integrated graphics, you can just shove a low power GPU into this, and connect it to the laptop via USB 3.0. There's still the MOLEX question though (on how to power this thing up), but still - possibly a god way to get a laptop to game, until you can get a gaming laptop or tower PC with dedicated graphics?

    • @sopwerdna
      @sopwerdna ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, unfortunately plugging this into an external USB port would do nothing (except perhaps fry your graphics card, USB port, or both). The USB port here is just being used as a cheap way to get a fairly high bandwidth physical connection, it's not operating with anything resembling USB.

  • @Dash64_png
    @Dash64_png ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You could theoretically use this on a laptop. It would be less jank.

    • @711jastin
      @711jastin ปีที่แล้ว +5

      there are NVME ones that work at x4 speed, and it will work a lot better, you can go up to 2060 with it.

    • @ramranchcowboy8857
      @ramranchcowboy8857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tried this already and it performs slower because 1x16 is faster, But it still can play lots of tripple A games but not on very high settings and also it can't run every gpu in the market because that port will bottleneck the powerful gpus out there.

    • @pokepress
      @pokepress ปีที่แล้ว

      As others have mentioned, you’d probably be better off going with a more traditional eGPU setup on that. I’ve been using one for some amateur AI work and it functions quite well, especially since that kind of task isn’t as time-sensitive as gaming.

    • @ramranchcowboy8857
      @ramranchcowboy8857 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pokepress What kind of egpu if you mind me asking? because there are the Chinese one which is more compatible to any laptop but has limitations or the pricy thunderbolt egpu?

    • @felipekfcosta
      @felipekfcosta ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I did that about ten years ago, with a version that used the expressCard to connect to the laptop. It really enabled my Core2 Duo laptop to run a lot of games with an external graphics card.

  • @George_Bland
    @George_Bland ปีที่แล้ว

    I love funky stuff like this!

  • @daboogiemansass
    @daboogiemansass 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like your awkward videos, quite informative.

  • @travisdonotsuscribegototjs9323
    @travisdonotsuscribegototjs9323 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    only thing I see wrong is that you need a six pin pcie version of this pcie adapter it's literally a fire hazard worse than a grey PSU from China, that card will melt the molex cables

    • @TheGameBench
      @TheGameBench ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering miners are using these things 24x7 to mine... I wouldn't worry about it. A 4-pin Molex connector is more than capable of delivering 75 watts with 18ga wire. Hell, early GPU's with dedicated power used 4-pin Molex connectors on them. If it had a SATA power connection... then I would be concerned.

  • @LegacyIvyTerascale
    @LegacyIvyTerascale ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sapphire TOXIC RX 6900 XT Air Cooled

  • @t1e6x12
    @t1e6x12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you plan on buying some of these make sure you get good quality risers. Only buy risers with 6 pin power connectors and avoid the molex/ SATA risers. There have been cases where fires have been started by them.

  • @robr640
    @robr640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm actually surprised this ran as well as it did! I mean the uses cases are super limited, but hey it worked!

  • @xkonstantin5
    @xkonstantin5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what would happen if you plug one of these in a laptop's usb port?

    • @elemkay5104
      @elemkay5104 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can't transmit data meant for PCIe. Might do some damage but probably nothing at all.

  • @jrose-xp6tf
    @jrose-xp6tf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a good idea having that adapter around, I've had mobos with dead pcie slots before....neat.

  • @mikekangaroo1124
    @mikekangaroo1124 ปีที่แล้ว

    That worked better than I would have expected it too

  • @rarminqorset3628
    @rarminqorset3628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's actually very respectable

  • @dan167
    @dan167 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here's the biggest issue, molex is only 52 watts instead of 75 from pcie, if anyone gets one get one with a 6 pin pcie connector instead.

    • @Loneadmin
      @Loneadmin ปีที่แล้ว

      Does a 3050 require 75w?

    • @YorkieKilla
      @YorkieKilla ปีที่แล้ว

      came here to say the same thing, using one of these with a molex is dangerous. @RandomGaminginHD Dont use this setup again mate, you can get ones that have a PCI power on the riser

    • @YorkieKilla
      @YorkieKilla ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Loneadmin the RTX 3050 is a 130w TDP card but the problem is you can never know where all the power is going to be requested from. If the card wants a full 75w from the PCI-lane itself, the molex powering that can only supply 52w, so it cannot safely deliver all the required power to the right place. The 8-pin going into the card can deliver up to 150w of power and in this specific case with the 3050 being a low powered card, things should not get overloaded. But with a more powerful GPU that will ask for more power, using a riser with a molex is really dangerous.

    • @m8x425
      @m8x425 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are much better PCI-E x1 Risers on the market that connect to a PCI-E 6-pin connector.
      A molex chain on a high quality PSU (eg EVGA T2/P2, Super Flower Leadex, Corsair AX/HX/RMx) that uses heavier 18 gauge wires that are 12" in length are good for 120w (safe) (132w max, not so safe)..... usually 10a to 11a on the +12v rail. That on the chain, not a single connector.
      Using a riser with a cheaper PSU that can only handle 6a per molex chain would definitely not be a good idea.

    • @elemkay5104
      @elemkay5104 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YorkieKilla Yeah, you'll likely get away with it because of the massive drop in performance meaning it won't draw close to that 130W TDP. Still not recommended. Would be okay if you undervolt and underclock though, and tested it to make sure it doesn't consume more than say 90W overall. Btw the power drawn is usually balanced from slot and connector.

  • @Nintenboy01
    @Nintenboy01 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There are also ExpressCard to PCIe slot adapters that should perform much better since it's 2.5Gbps. Good for older laptops with no Thunderbolt ports

  • @jamessoyer6046
    @jamessoyer6046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    try doing a video comparing what's the best egpu setup
    thunderbolt, usb, or mini pcie

  • @couriersix2443
    @couriersix2443 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious, how much better does the 12400F perform in games vs the 12300? I'd also be interested in seeing the aforementioned CPUs running at 5Ghz+ all-core vs stock, seeing as it's possible on certain motherboards to do BCLK "overclocking" for non-k SKUs. It definitely makes the value proposition of the lower end Alder Lake CPUs all that much more compelling

  • @lacrak27
    @lacrak27 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder what happens if u plug it into an actual USB

  • @ZipplyZane
    @ZipplyZane ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is it USB? As in, can you just connect it straight to an actual USB port on your system? Or does it just use a USB-style connector for a custom card?
    Because I'd expect that the main use of an actual USB graphics card adapter would be to try and plug into a laptop, not using some small PCI-e USB card.

    • @austinriddick6414
      @austinriddick6414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely do NOT plug it into a regular USB port. You'll most likely fry the USB controller or possibly even the board itself due to different voltages and power draw from the card.

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane ปีที่แล้ว

      @@austinriddick6414 I didn't even think about the fact that it would try to power itself from the port. I guess I just assumed you threw in some sort of adapter to power it from the mains.

    • @primus711
      @primus711 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its not usb its just using a usb cable to bring the wires to the 1x card
      These were made for crypto mining mainly as many coins didn't need the bandwidth of x8 x16

    • @0mongo0
      @0mongo0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not USB. It just uses a USB cable and connectors.

    • @t1e6x12
      @t1e6x12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@austinriddick6414 The power isnt being drawn through USB

  • @lasthopelost9090
    @lasthopelost9090 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m quite impressed all things considered

  • @the_beefy1986
    @the_beefy1986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought one of these intentionally, but not for use with a GPU. I built a Direct Attached Storage chassis so I could add more disks to my NAS build. The extra chassis used a SAS expander which itself needed to be powered by its pci-e bus connector, but it didn't pass any data over that bus. With this adapter, I could power the card without the need for a whole motherboard in the DAS chassis.

  • @mhh3
    @mhh3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The title is kinda misleading, i was expecting him to connect it via usb to pc and not to put to a pci-e adapter to connect it than to the pc.

  • @aleksi2858
    @aleksi2858 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you are shaking

    • @prateekpanwar646
      @prateekpanwar646 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah he usually is very calm while recording. Maybe he drank coffee.

  • @peskyhusky920
    @peskyhusky920 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember years ago in my country, they used to sell adapters for GPUs for laptops, so you could get better graphics for any purpose you wanted. Never got to try one but this gives me an insight of how could have been.

  • @rrwholloway
    @rrwholloway 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmmmmm. So I have got hold of an old Sony All In One. It’s great, i7-2670QM (upgraded SSD & ram to 16gbs. A 1080p 120htz 3D touchscreen display. It’s great! Except the graphics ‘card’. It’s got a GT 540M.
    I wonder if something like this could actually upgrade the graphics to something a bit more respectable?

  • @FunkyM217
    @FunkyM217 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bearing in mind that in 5 Generations, PCIE speeds have increased so that an x1 connection on PCIE v5 is as fast as x16 on PCIE v1, I wouldn't be surprised to see PCIE x1 interface GPUs any time in the next Decade. Especially if Efficiency becomes the overriding factor.

  • @herogaca
    @herogaca 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honestly im here for the intro

  • @MarcNorris
    @MarcNorris ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be fun to see what rendering times are for Adobe Premiere or Davinci Resolve using this kind of setup... or even see if video editing was even possible.

  • @Adventure_Craft
    @Adventure_Craft 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i havent watched video yet looked at first 2 comments...
    usb 3.0 cables are gimmik, the speed of usb is handled by the usb controller software/usb hub hardware... so u can use a usb 2.0 cable on a usb 3.0 port and get usb 3.0 speeds.
    hope this helps to clarify how usb works.
    i am trying to find usb > pci (desktop gfx card), sadly what you have is not what i am looking for.

  • @bensw13
    @bensw13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran a similar set up but for an old HP compaq presario laptop (from c.2009) with an intel core 2 duo t6600, combining it with a Radeon HD 7770, connecting the PCIE1 slot where the wireless card should have been.
    Getting an output via the Graphics card was a bit faffy due to the locked HP Bios, but putting it to sleep, connecting and waking up did the trick.
    Actually ran Left 4 Dead 2 surprisingly well and was very playable! Didn't take any benchmarks or anything but from what I recall the HD7770 was a reasonably good pairing as it basically maxxed out the bandwidth on the slot.
    Mostly was just tinkering for a bit of fun with old hardware though, never really used it in earnest :)

  • @scavengerspc
    @scavengerspc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was humbling for me because it still did a hell of a lot better than I thought it would.

    • @Tom_Quixote
      @Tom_Quixote 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you became humble?

    • @scavengerspc
      @scavengerspc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tom_Quixote No, hell no. I was surprised how well it did, but I have long since gone back to my swatting limp-wristed, internet boy bitch days.

  • @wafiwalid_
    @wafiwalid_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think about gaming using mesa's software renderer combined with wined3d?

  • @dedr4m
    @dedr4m ปีที่แล้ว

    I got one that goes to classic PCI for my Audigy2 sound card, I'm working on integrating this into a Lenovo M900 ultramini-PC with a Core i7.
    That machine, when I finally finish it, I plan on using as a low-power (30-90W) alternative to my current 580W-minimum (Actual draw from the wall) gaming PC that currently is my go-to for half-decent sound (Sound-Blaster Live 5.1 with KX drivers on Windows 10 and a custom DSP patch).
    The gaming PC will still be for gaming tho.

  • @Joe-470-
    @Joe-470- ปีที่แล้ว

    A big fan is here 💞

  • @BOPISbewitya
    @BOPISbewitya ปีที่แล้ว

    Tintin with another lovely video.

  • @retropcdurham
    @retropcdurham ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used these adapters a few times to get a GPU installed into a system with only a x1 slot, but since the systems I build are generally very low end for basic desktop use, I don't think I even tried to see how gaming performance worked.

  • @mipad553
    @mipad553 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good but is there 3 in 1 splitter to add SSD + Wifi card + eGPU in one wifi card slot laptop?

  • @vinnceisaacarloabril7348
    @vinnceisaacarloabril7348 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very good for people who have very small cases and needs a big gpu for good fps

  • @dampmaky
    @dampmaky ปีที่แล้ว

    hello random!
    have you considered doing a full budget pc build?

  • @myleghurts7419
    @myleghurts7419 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is actually better performance than I expected

  • @user-lu8ze8tp9j
    @user-lu8ze8tp9j ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be interesting to see a comparison between m.2 adapters 3.0 x4 and 4.0 x4 vs pci-e x16

  • @jackolanternretro
    @jackolanternretro ปีที่แล้ว

    My problem is my pc shell is too small for a standard graphics card, so this seems like a good thing for me to try because I've already got really good gameplay graphics but there's a but of lag in one or two games so thank you for this great video

  • @Ammageddon89
    @Ammageddon89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, the molex adapter is VERY capable of catching fire. Or at least in my case it got so hot that it melted the cables isolation....

  • @chrisakaschulbus4903
    @chrisakaschulbus4903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would there be a difference between using this extender and the card being in a slot at a slower speed?
    Or are signal timings on this length not too critical?

  • @dermothoyne2393
    @dermothoyne2393 ปีที่แล้ว

    This machination, deserves more shenananigans... In the form of SLi/Crossfiring, as a deconstructed [hanging] pc

  • @dyslectische
    @dyslectische 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can use this on small intel nuc or amd.
    We use it for a laptop for extra gpu .
    Only this a slome thing .
    Speciaal that the mini pci-e slots have 4x mode.
    Really needs a upgrade. Model

  • @gamefreaknetunofficial
    @gamefreaknetunofficial 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can kind of depend on the USB Gen used as 3.1/3.2 Gen1 allow for up to 5Gbps and and 3.1/3.2 Gen2 allows for up to 10Gbps. If your were to allow it to use USB-C that could further the bandwidth to 20Gbps

  • @BBHexKey
    @BBHexKey ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering how well something like that would work if you adapted it into a laptop's mini pci-e connector if you wanted to make a frankenstein egpu without having to spend hundreds on an enclosure and having to use a thunderbolt capable laptop.

  • @user_imyarek
    @user_imyarek ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a KEKish experience
    Gotta admit this chanell is indeed RANDOM

  • @mimic3527
    @mimic3527 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is something i've seen before, might try it for a weak card on my old laptop.

  • @Klinical69420
    @Klinical69420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its crazy what a 1x pci slot can do! I would of never expected 100 frames through 1 pci lane.

  • @slapnut892
    @slapnut892 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for the USB 4 version.

  • @HA05GER
    @HA05GER ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be interesting to mod a laptop and have a small cutout in the chassis with a port of some sort for easy connect. Maybe something as simple as a short usb extension to the frame of the laptop from the pcie adaptor then can plug straight in.