Got some tips from Neural DSP on how to get it closer, but I might have to REIMPORT the IR to have it be more optimised for the new alghoritm: "As far as the extra bass that is displayed in the EQ, you can try the following which should compensate or fix the extra low end that's showing. - If the QC is being used as the interface trying the following: - Setting the plugin input to +2.26 dB OR - Setting the QC input row gain (Hold input node) to -2.26 dB - Old custom IRs will need to be reloaded via Cortex Control to match exactly."
I'm torn between amp sim and tube like solid state amps Be very useful and try the blackstar debut 50r They say its analog with mosfet circuit that behave like tube
I'm torn between amp sim and tube like solid state amps Be very useful and try the blackstar debut 50r They say its analog with mosfet circuit that behave like tube
It's crazy how many comments I'm reading from people who haven't the slightest clue what they're talking about. I used to be a skeptic as well in regard to the QC, but at least now I can admit it's NOT rubbish and is actually incredibly useful and good sounding once you get into amp capturing.
Sounds identical to me. I'd be really interested to see a null test -- run the same DI through both, record them, time align, flip phase, and see what's left.
I don't own a quad cortex, but I love the fact that you do this "quick check" on the update. Still very interesting for everybody who is still thinking about buying one. Right now I "have" to choose between a quad cortex and a line6 helix lt.
@@marcellingoth1567 i find the sound really fckin great tbh. I sold my FM3 for this guy and no regrets here. Besides the ease of use, the access to sounds are amazing, not to mention that they also have Cortex Cloud so you can find sounds made by other people and upload them so fast to your quad
nice. im an axe fx user but tempted to add one of these for more options. one thing i miss from my helix days is having the helix plugin and the hardware so i can have my sounds however i want.
@@Jam_Gordon Yes. But still not the IIC+ with the push/pull. THen again, NDSP probably just wants people to buy the plugin. Fucking DLC for guitar amps & effects.
Especially since the advent of gapless switching. It was my one gripe with my FM9 and I used to have to make scenes to work around that small gap. No more!!!!
I'm picking up guitar again after 20 years and have decided to ditch amps. I'm a big nerd so I love all the computer-ended stuff but I have to wonder how the hell people without a background in computer science get on with it all , or maybe that's just how music production hardware has always been and it's just in pedals now instead of computers. I've just said sod it for now and I'm using a Boss IR2 and aHeadrush. Can't imagine bothering to get the full stacks I lusted after as a kid.
Hello Ola, Im quite new in metal world and i would like to know if its necessary a special guitar to play metal style: fast picking, shreeding etc... (for example ibanez solar strandberg) or it can be possible with a standard one like telecaster or les paul. Thanks a lot for your answer, love your content!!!
To me, the QC sounds a tiny bit brighter and tighter, but the PC sounds a little more open and full. But…I mean, like a 1% difference. Not a huge deal or a problem.
Hey Ola, since the Gt1000 got an update, will you give the new GT1000 Amps a shot? Would be interesting to hear them Ola-flavoured. It's a very overlooked unit in my opinion.
Noob question here but can a quad cortex be used a your midi interface? And does it have a built in noise gate? For 1600 bux, I’d like to think so but u never know
I’m pretty sure you can send Midi to it, but I don’t think it is like an UA Apollo Twin X. I haven’t gotten a chance to try out the Quad Cortex or Fender Tone Master Pro yet. I’m still new to Guitar. I can do drums, I can do Synths/Keyboards, but Guitar is harder than it looks. It doesn’t help that I have a tendon injury that affects my left pinky and ring finger.
If i were to get the quad cortex, will i get a discount for the plugins then? 😀 Happy with my kemper, but i'm always looking forward to new technology and so far i like the quad cortex (from what i've heard at least)
Pretty much the reason I didn't jump the gun on one, that and I couldn't even begin to afford it. The l6 pod go is AWESOME. Never fails me and updates get better every time.
Dude no kidding. lol. I remember they promised all these amazing things. Then they pivoted big time by saying it was a profiler. lol. They basically launched a product that wasn’t finished. I’m honestly shocked they weren’t sued for false advertisement.
I think people were more mad abt a feature being advertised before release being Absent, and only just now hitting *closed beta* Sure most of the parts of the plugins are already in the QC - but to Advertise a feature that’s completely MIA beyond “coming soon” for Four Years is a shitty way to go about things
@@rlm4471 Until you actually get the hang of it and get through the learning curve. True, there's very little charm in scrolling through menus, but once I got to the good stuff... I can't remember the last time I felt so inspired.
@@rlm4471 I'm the exact opposite. I tweak parameters for 1-2 hours per preset and absolutely love it. After a few months of writing I build another one just for fun. I could never go back to a 3 band EQ, because nothing kills my creativity more than having bare-minimum limitations. Most of my tube amps sold for 3 times what I paid, LOL.
@@YTisGayyea I guess if I ever sat down and tried it I’d probably like it. If I didn’t get frustrated cuz I do t know what I’m doing and throw it across the room lol. I do wanna try the neural dsp plini amp thing lol.
@@whosnext1972The scale is 60dB which is a big scale. On the graph the difference is about 3db at 100hz. This is more than noticeable difference. 1db is already noticeable.
lol you sound so biased 😂 once you get into capturing tube amps there's no going back. Oh, and a decent tube amp actually is more expensive than a Quad Cortex.
@@rlm4471 well, for that reason I'm holding on to my tube amps even though I'm not using them anymore. I discovered the benefits of amp modelling, but I'll always have a soft spot for those tube amps too.
That's all amps are tbh; 3 band EQs with capacitors/resisters to set the parameters for specific frequencies. If you put a PEQ before the 3 band (for gain structure), then a 10 band after the 3, your tonal capabilities are vast.
I kind of agree. Nothing against modelling but every company seems to start from scratch and then build the same amps and cabs as the last device like how many duplicates of modded JCM800s and V30 cabs do I need in my studio? Are people really spending money on yet another 5150 plugin, another Marshall style crunch and another Fender clean. Same goes for those Synergy pre-amps. The same 3 tones over and over. At least Line6 is starting to model a few weird and unobtainable amps and some people in the Kemper community are doing their own profiles of vintage stuff but with the cabinet and mic placement baked in.
Got some tips from Neural DSP on how to get it closer, but I might have to REIMPORT the IR to have it be more optimised for the new alghoritm:
"As far as the extra bass that is displayed in the EQ, you can try the following which should compensate or fix the extra low end that's showing.
- If the QC is being used as the interface trying the following:
- Setting the plugin input to +2.26 dB
OR
- Setting the QC input row gain (Hold input node) to -2.26 dB
- Old custom IRs will need to be reloaded via Cortex Control to match exactly."
Try the Blackstar debut 50r
With tube screamer
@@OlaEnglund is this the same for gojira x?
I'm torn between amp sim and tube like solid state amps
Be very useful and try the blackstar debut 50r
They say its analog with mosfet circuit that behave like tube
I'm torn between amp sim and tube like solid state amps
Be very useful and try the blackstar debut 50r
They say its analog with mosfet circuit that behave like tube
Does that mean we should just reimport the IR to the IR loader or delete it from our cloud and then reupload? Thanks for your time!
"Oh shit, a new quad cortex firmware update?" *Doesn't own a quad cortex*
@@DiamondPressMusic yet!
@@Acessentiel I fuckin hope so
It's crazy how many comments I'm reading from people who haven't the slightest clue what they're talking about. I used to be a skeptic as well in regard to the QC, but at least now I can admit it's NOT rubbish and is actually incredibly useful and good sounding once you get into amp capturing.
It was a good day yesterday, was also nice of them to give owners a free plug in of their choice.
The noises you put to hide the word "shit" never ceases to crack me up... 😂😂😂
Ola testing J A Z Z
🎷 ftw
Same 🤣
Sounds identical to me. I'd be really interested to see a null test -- run the same DI through both, record them, time align, flip phase, and see what's left.
About time 🎉🎉
To be fair, the low end frequencies that are different are ones you'd probably be EQing out anyway .
exactly, that's just how my impulse response was captured, I am for sure cutting bass If I would use it
Great comparison!
Would have also been cool to shoot it out against the stock EVH 5153 blue channel model (which Plini‘s third amp represents).
Oh my God...I didn't even realize you were switching between them at first!!! On my tablet, they sound EXACTLY the same!!
I don't own a quad cortex, but I love the fact that you do this "quick check" on the update. Still very interesting for everybody who is still thinking about buying one. Right now I "have" to choose between a quad cortex and a line6 helix lt.
@@marcellingoth1567 Ease of use is 100x better on Quad Cortex. Easy choice.
Tonex the best natural !
I sold my Helix after a few months of owning my Quad. Choose Neural, you won't regret it.
@@Buzzdee85 Thx, but is it just the usability or the sound too? In €, quad is still 600 € above the helix lt, that is why I'm struggling.
@@marcellingoth1567 i find the sound really fckin great tbh. I sold my FM3 for this guy and no regrets here. Besides the ease of use, the access to sounds are amazing, not to mention that they also have Cortex Cloud so you can find sounds made by other people and upload them so fast to your quad
Sounds amazing as expected!
I hear no difference, I didn't pay attention to the text at first and didn't realize it was changing, lol.
same here
same
Yup. Same.
Maybe I can finally buy the cortex 😊
nice. im an axe fx user but tempted to add one of these for more options. one thing i miss from my helix days is having the helix plugin and the hardware so i can have my sounds however i want.
Now that's a great update.
Sounds exact on my iphone but I am sure through monitors I would notice a tiny difference but both sound killer anyway
Cool! I'm waiting for the Mesa MKIIc+ and Petrucci Plugins compatibility now ;)
Too bad they haven't released the IIC+ as a model like they had listed in 2020 ;)
@@DarthV506 They have the JP2C though?
@@Jam_Gordon Yes. But still not the IIC+ with the push/pull. THen again, NDSP probably just wants people to buy the plugin. Fucking DLC for guitar amps & effects.
it’s so close but i almost prefer the low end bloom of the quad regardless if that’s gonna end up getting EQ’d out anyway
I wonder if the top and bottom attenuation is simply from the run of 1/4" cables in and out of the QC?
I don’t care how long it took for them to achieve this, I’m so happy they got it done.
2 WORDS: THANK YOU.
I felt like there was more “air” in the Archetype Plini. But tiny difference
Please check now FM3/FM9 after few updates.
Especially since the advent of gapless switching. It was my one gripe with my FM9 and I used to have to make scenes to work around that small gap. No more!!!!
that's on my todo list!
I love my fm3 turbo
I haven't bought a QC mainly because of the lack of compatibility between the plugins and the hardware. Better start saving my pennies!
Close enough for rock and roll!
I can’t wait for the crazy Rabea stuff to be available, that’s gonna be so awesome!
Long long long time waiting
How long for all of them
I don’t buy anything with promises it could be yearssss
Sounds great to me... have you done a demo of the budget friendly Valeton gp 200???
I wonder if it’s something about the QC hardware that’s cutting off a little bit of the low end.
I'm picking up guitar again after 20 years and have decided to ditch amps. I'm a big nerd so I love all the computer-ended stuff but I have to wonder how the hell people without a background in computer science get on with it all , or maybe that's just how music production hardware has always been and it's just in pedals now instead of computers.
I've just said sod it for now and I'm using a Boss IR2 and aHeadrush. Can't imagine bothering to get the full stacks I lusted after as a kid.
I’m just gunna wait for the Petrucci preset to hit then im gunna jump to buy a Quad Cortex. The plug in to me is 🔥🤌🏻
Hello Ola, Im quite new in metal world and i would like to know if its necessary a special guitar to play metal style: fast picking, shreeding etc... (for example ibanez solar strandberg) or it can be possible with a standard one like telecaster or les paul. Thanks a lot for your answer, love your content!!!
Plugin's low end sounds tighter than QC which makes me prefer the plugin.
Honestly I feel like lower bass on the QC removes the mud.
There was a bit more low end on the computer and the floor unit was slightly thinner in the mids
Ola whats your favorite guitar shape?
hey ola... what can you say about the NUX pedal producst? or wanna try one or two? TIA
Great Vid as always! Where did you get the plastic cover for the Quad...looks nice?
To me, the QC sounds a tiny bit brighter and tighter, but the PC sounds a little more open and full. But…I mean, like a 1% difference. Not a huge deal or a problem.
Can you please do a video on the newest ampero stage ii? Thank you
I like it.Sounds good.
Sounds like you are playing through a real cabinet? Or is that an ir going through monitors?
Exactly the same 👍
Hey Ola! Where do I get this awesome IR?
For me the Quad Cortex has a little bit more Presence.
Can you compare the Quad Cortex with the Helix?
Low end is tighter on the cortex, there is a little more low end difference with the plugin
Hey Ola, since the Gt1000 got an update, will you give the new GT1000 Amps a shot? Would be interesting to hear them Ola-flavoured.
It's a very overlooked unit in my opinion.
I'll put it on my todo list!
@@OlaEnglund Much apprechiated.
Hot take, it was all the Bogren MLC plugin.
was this using QC audio thru usb or using the QC audio DAC outs??
Noob question here but can a quad cortex be used a your midi interface? And does it have a built in noise gate? For 1600 bux, I’d like to think so but u never know
I’m pretty sure you can send Midi to it, but I don’t think it is like an UA Apollo Twin X. I haven’t gotten a chance to try out the Quad Cortex or Fender Tone Master Pro yet. I’m still new to Guitar. I can do drums, I can do Synths/Keyboards, but Guitar is harder than it looks. It doesn’t help that I have a tendon injury that affects my left pinky and ring finger.
Sounds good to me
When Archetype Ola :)
basically the fortin natas :-D
@@joes.3083 true!
Sylosis!
If i were to get the quad cortex, will i get a discount for the plugins then? 😀
Happy with my kemper, but i'm always looking forward to new technology and so far i like the quad cortex (from what i've heard at least)
Q carai é esse homi!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 o bagulho tá foooooooda! 😂😂
Oh hell yeah
No difference - I missed the changes from your text and was waiting for you to start the changes!
Hola Ola 👋🌊
The Plini is an HBE and the Gojira is a 5153. Since these are already in the QC why did it take this long?
Because Neural are a bunch of grifters more concerned with selling overpriced suites
Today is IR lenght the same?
In past plugins was capable of ir longer as qc (emailed from support).
With 3.0 i don't know
What ir did you use? Or is it the stock cabinets of the plugin.
Do you still have to buy the plugins, if so thats kinda🤭😐
Using my own IR
@@OlaEnglund So I guess it sounds like crap without your IR. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@bitburg40 no not necessarily, it's just the one I use when I play live, so that's what the test is for. It's for my own "pleasure" :D
@@OlaEnglund I was just joking. 😁
Same
No diff. Ola sounds good.
It feels like there's more bass on the computer.
The difference is pretty minimal, you have to sit and hear for a while to notice it
hey ola sounds killer, do you mess with the global eq or any high and low cuts?
Here's a cookie 🍪
Sounds more the high frequency
ReCola backfired AZ hola/did you NEED A MINT
...but...but...but... I don't watch "other youtubers". lol
Quad Cortex rocks man.
Phone speaker did this no justice, just saying.
People releasing hour long videos showing the update but this 5 minutes is what 99% of us wanted to know right now.
"Half promised.." and by that you mean totally promised.
NUKA COLA SHIRT
Just in time for quad qurtex 2 to come out 😂
Can he make coffee?
No change
Plugins? Meh. More better the capture.
So many years later 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pretty much the reason I didn't jump the gun on one, that and I couldn't even begin to afford it. The l6 pod go is AWESOME. Never fails me and updates get better every time.
Dude no kidding. lol. I remember they promised all these amazing things. Then they pivoted big time by saying it was a profiler. lol. They basically launched a product that wasn’t finished. I’m honestly shocked they weren’t sued for false advertisement.
@@blakeomssame it’s why I still got my Kemper, plus the morph function in performance mode is great.
PCOM is late for like...a quad years later...
I think people were more mad abt a feature being advertised before release being Absent, and only just now hitting *closed beta*
Sure most of the parts of the plugins are already in the QC - but to Advertise a feature that’s completely MIA beyond “coming soon” for Four Years is a shitty way to go about things
4th
QUAD SOUNDS MORE BRIGHT
Too technical for me. Just give me an amp. 😂
Nothing kills my creativity like scrolling through menus and tweaking presets.
@@rlm4471 Until you actually get the hang of it and get through the learning curve. True, there's very little charm in scrolling through menus, but once I got to the good stuff... I can't remember the last time I felt so inspired.
@@rlm4471 I'm the exact opposite. I tweak parameters for 1-2 hours per preset and absolutely love it. After a few months of writing I build another one just for fun. I could never go back to a 3 band EQ, because nothing kills my creativity more than having bare-minimum limitations. Most of my tube amps sold for 3 times what I paid, LOL.
@@YTisGayyea I guess if I ever sat down and tried it I’d probably like it. If I didn’t get frustrated cuz I do t know what I’m doing and throw it across the room lol. I do wanna try the neural dsp plini amp thing lol.
me too. It’s like having 300 channels to watch and you don’t know which one to pick!!!!
I am lost . Just plug into a real amp and cab please haha 🤣
Sorry am i the only one who hearing a huge difference
HUGE!? yes, only one
Plugin sounds deeper, fuller, more organic and more focused. Qc sounds thinner, shallower, flatter, more of a kemper like sound.
lol no
He literally showed you the EQ match
@@whosnext1972 Dynamic compressed sound will not sound the same even when you match the frequency response.
@@whosnext1972The scale is 60dB which is a big scale. On the graph the difference is about 3db at 100hz. This is more than noticeable difference. 1db is already noticeable.
@@johnyang799 lol
quad cortex is the hipster product of musicians who think you need expensive things to sounds good
You calling me a hipster bro? 🤔🫣 😅
So.. I guess being able to compare, thus state such a thing, you owe one right?? 🤔
lol you sound so biased 😂 once you get into capturing tube amps there's no going back. Oh, and a decent tube amp actually is more expensive than a Quad Cortex.
It's just a modeler. The negative social side of it is just a story that you're creating for yourself.
@@rlm4471 well, for that reason I'm holding on to my tube amps even though I'm not using them anymore. I discovered the benefits of amp modelling, but I'll always have a soft spot for those tube amps too.
Plugin sounds ever so slightly rounder. Nothing that would make any difference in a track
its fuking boring
All equipment sounds the same
When I stopped to test all of Quad's amplifiers, I found them all to be the same, just changing the equalization frequencies.
That's all amps are tbh; 3 band EQs with capacitors/resisters to set the parameters for specific frequencies. If you put a PEQ before the 3 band (for gain structure), then a 10 band after the 3, your tonal capabilities are vast.
@@faintsmile537 the neural plug ins are kind of the same stuff over and over you are right
I kind of agree. Nothing against modelling but every company seems to start from scratch and then build the same amps and cabs as the last device like how many duplicates of modded JCM800s and V30 cabs do I need in my studio? Are people really spending money on yet another 5150 plugin, another Marshall style crunch and another Fender clean. Same goes for those Synergy pre-amps. The same 3 tones over and over. At least Line6 is starting to model a few weird and unobtainable amps and some people in the Kemper community are doing their own profiles of vintage stuff but with the cabinet and mic placement baked in.
Quad cortex was such a let down
God digital sounds soooo fizzy
Nope. Just the combo he chose to use. I suggest exploring the space more
That has absolutely nothing to do with "digital" 🤣