how does tf2 decide who gets the assist?

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  • @shounic
    @shounic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1668

    FAQ
    - TRY DO THIS IN THIS ORDER
    this information is confirmed by looking into the code, not learned by testing. this means that even if i didn't show something in the video, the information i've given you can be safely trusted. obviously, because of the numerous combination of things to test, i can't create an exhaustively comprehensive demonstration of everything - so for stuff like the medigun, i opted not to show every combination of order and weapons.
    though i fully expect you nerds to think of some other wild edge cases that even i haven't thought to test and there'll be a part two :))))
    also, update on the sapper stuff. sapping with another spy doesn't change anything. not 100% sure why but there's nothing new to report, so no part 3.
    (blanket disclaimer: idk if what i said makes sense, i didn't sleep well so i'll come back later to edit this with proper english if it sucks)
    thanks for reading, here are some bonus thumbnails: i.imgur.com/rOsjLXd.png i.imgur.com/AMyh1ZK.png

    • @bokieiey
      @bokieiey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      you're welcome for reading

    • @skyixyes3971
      @skyixyes3971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      amputator taunts can give assists btw (sorry to be that guy)

    • @spycookie6174
      @spycookie6174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But were any Baby Engie Mains harmed in the making of this video

    • @TehPlayer14
      @TehPlayer14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sapper gives assist too if someone destroy the building before your sapper kills it

    • @BlazingShadowSword
      @BlazingShadowSword 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for clarifying the stuff with multiple spies not affecting a bugged sapper. Very nice.

  • @borutoburrito6547
    @borutoburrito6547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5093

    "If I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer"
    Wow that was the shortest mystery novel I've ever read.

    • @QWERTY708100
      @QWERTY708100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +256

      Heavy Is Dead in a nutshell

    • @joeboyd1964
      @joeboyd1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      At least it's one of those mystery novels where the reader can solve it before the ending; those are satisfying

    • @littlenyancat5754
      @littlenyancat5754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      People die when they are killed.

    • @spaghettthesomeone9625
      @spaghettthesomeone9625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@littlenyancat5754 wait really? Wow... The more you know

    • @b-17theflyingfortress
      @b-17theflyingfortress 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@QWERTY708100
      YA TA YATATA
      IT IS GOOD DAY TO BE NOT DED

  • @oktayyildirim2911
    @oktayyildirim2911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1384

    1:41 "For debuffs, it tiebreaks by ordering the weapons by release date."
    I wouldn't expect anything less from Valve developers.

    • @bruschetta7711
      @bruschetta7711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      I find it quite smart, i expected then to just base everything on who joined first

    • @MickyVideo
      @MickyVideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      It actually works quite well and is possibly less computationally expensive.

    • @duarteribeiro1520
      @duarteribeiro1520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +231

      @@bruschetta7711 Instead of being the player who joined first, it's the weapon who joined first

    • @h4724-q6j
      @h4724-q6j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What solution would you prefer them to use?

    • @Bluejet_007
      @Bluejet_007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@h4724-q6j Something like who put debuffs first or last would have made more sense. Not the most accurate method, but makes way more sense.

  • @Tudsamfa
    @Tudsamfa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1962

    The most important assists are pet accesories while in pyroland.

    • @christianaustin782
      @christianaustin782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Dude I honestly forgot about those lol. I assume those would just rank last, like beneath damage

    • @258thHiGuy
      @258thHiGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +231

      @@christianaustin782 They only show up as an assist if there was no actual assist

    • @christianaustin782
      @christianaustin782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@258thHiGuy soooo technically correct that they rank last 😬

    • @KoboldCloaca
      @KoboldCloaca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Slithering scarf gang

    • @randomzergling
      @randomzergling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@christianaustin782 Morale support

  • @bareodin
    @bareodin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +585

    Fun fact you forgot to mention: if a pyro reflects a stun ball at an enemy player who then dies, the assist goes to the enemy scout. This can results in sometimes an enemy scout getting an assist in his own death.

    • @Lilithksheh7723
      @Lilithksheh7723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      That’s a “you played yourself” moment right there.

    • @Hugonche29
      @Hugonche29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Same if a friend medic heals an enemy spy who backstabs a teammate.
      Actually, both scenarios allow players to dominate players from their own team!

    • @theweirdwolf1877
      @theweirdwolf1877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Imagine dominating yourself

    • @quintonwinton7210
      @quintonwinton7210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Hugonche29 i believe it lets medic dominate himself

    • @modmaniamadness
      @modmaniamadness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@quintonwinton7210 revenge crits

  • @AceTheOcarinaMaker
    @AceTheOcarinaMaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2318

    A lot of weird kill credit in the past makes sense now. Great video as usual.

    • @watema3381
      @watema3381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      fancy seeing you here

    • @drcrooked2620
      @drcrooked2620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Excuse me there's only 2 comments on a ace comment why don't I see more

    • @dracon2963
      @dracon2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice it’s you ace im a big fan

    • @Destro65
      @Destro65 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh look its ace

    • @cameonmate4293
      @cameonmate4293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hi dad

  • @kerbonaut2059
    @kerbonaut2059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1091

    3:23 "This is a 10,000$ custom-tailored Louis Crabbemarche jacket. The cloth is from silkworms raised at a suit microfarm in Tuscany, from a secret pattern passed down by monk tailors since the 7th century."

    • @Kaiwala
      @Kaiwala 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Then scout meets god or something idk

    • @Bacony_Cakes
      @Bacony_Cakes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      You just ruined it by coating it in pee.
      Fuck you.
      -Spy

    • @apple-de8tx
      @apple-de8tx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      laughing

    • @onedoompunchman7549
      @onedoompunchman7549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      New unusual

    • @slyseal2091
      @slyseal2091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Dick Faggotson - "the spy", seconds before realising that his current state would give the man in need of a diaper full crits.

  • @davistoa
    @davistoa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1979

    It's amazing how you keep finding questions to things that are so interesting, yet I never really thought that hard about before. You're pretty much the only TF2 content creator still full of fresh ideas, so hats off to that.

    • @RoastCDuck
      @RoastCDuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Thats why this is one of the fews TH-cam channel related to TF2 that i watch now since i quit TF2 on december 2019, I don't want to call this a TF2ber as its content is technical and debugging, something different from the main TF2 theme, pointing out flaws, facts, pros and cons, literally answering useful questions and pointing whats wrong with the game, not something alot of TF2bers do since they are scared of talking or pointing out flaws on TF2 which is their main problem, no one talks or asks what really is wrong with the game or how does it work in the core and proceeds to lie to themselves and the community about the current state of the game, is not running on its full potential that time was long ago, the game is struggling and dying.

    • @Gotmilk0112
      @Gotmilk0112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Hats off? No, hats on.

    • @burnzey4470
      @burnzey4470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Kody Pendleton i know right? these small questions are so much more intriguing and engaging than"gttthhhk wacky map *wheeze*"

    • @Scoutscout1000
      @Scoutscout1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      this one is actually something i've always wondered, I hate headshotting someone and they die right after and I dont get the assist.

    • @endig4501
      @endig4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't even played TF2 since the matchmaking update and I still watch these videos. It's good stuff.

  • @krisztianpapp6717
    @krisztianpapp6717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    all of the dripping effects looks like an unusual effect waiting to happen

    • @topminator1667
      @topminator1667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      new unusual effect added: dripping toilet

    • @Wittymations
      @Wittymations 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@topminator1667 I'm thoroughly disgusted. Add it, Valve.

    • @gangstascout3593
      @gangstascout3593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      that would be op because you couldnt ever tell if someone had a debuff

    • @krisztianpapp6717
      @krisztianpapp6717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@gangstascout3593 Well, it could be a orbiting effect like nuts n bolts or else but am sure they could implement it in a non game breaking way maybe

    • @gangstascout3593
      @gangstascout3593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@krisztianpapp6717 idk man, i mean who would want to have a water,milk,piss and motor oil aura around their head

  • @bukachell
    @bukachell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Imagine if it just included everyone on the list of assisting actions and like 20 dudes all work together to kill one engineer

    • @UH-60_Blackhawk
      @UH-60_Blackhawk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      infinitely long kill feed

    • @l1ghtd3m0n3
      @l1ghtd3m0n3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Some “you were killed again by the sentry gun of the late” type shit

    • @nataliaborys1554
      @nataliaborys1554 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You deal the killing blow after someone else already hit the Engie and four other guys gave him all the debuffs, all the while you're being healed by four Medics, with three Soldiers with different banners activated nearby.

  • @supersonicfan6404
    @supersonicfan6404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    3:24 Wow, spy has some SERIOUS drip!

    • @Rasimlol1380
      @Rasimlol1380 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      .....
      👏

  • @Hoodiebud
    @Hoodiebud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    3:18 When you run for 1 second.

  • @ducksociety3514
    @ducksociety3514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    Shounic: "If I shoot someone, I'm the killer"
    Audience: "Dear god"
    Shounic: "There's more..."
    Audience: "No"

  • @dingchat555
    @dingchat555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Bit of a correction on 5:40: A spy can get an assist on a destroyed building if he places a sapper on the building and a teammate destroys the building while it is being sapped.

    • @kuni2330
      @kuni2330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Other teammates destroying a building with a sapper still gives the Diamondback crits as well.

  • @jankkhvej434
    @jankkhvej434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    can we talk about how this guy is literally the 3kliksphilip of tf2?

    • @Ultimaximus
      @Ultimaximus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I went in the other direction, I started watching 3kliksphilip even though I don't play CSGO

    • @dinonuggiesguy4847
      @dinonuggiesguy4847 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same lol

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    I love how even after 13 years, we still have something we don't know about TF2 and it's still being analyzed
    I just hope TF2 team didn't update the game too soon, so this video is going to be useful... Oh wait

    • @LividImp
      @LividImp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This video will be useful until they release Half-Life 3....in other words, your grandkids will still be referencing it.

    • @ruruisu
      @ruruisu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank source leak for a lot of these

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    So that's why it's pretty common for a decent medic to top score, just heal everyone and you'll get the credit xD

    • @Nigel-nv3lr
      @Nigel-nv3lr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Medics earn it though, they really do make or break the team in most games

    • @MeekerMW
      @MeekerMW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@Nigel-nv3lr Exactly, if a medic is top scoring that means he is frequently, if not always, healing the people in a battle or people running toward frontline, hell yea

    • @awabfarass9054
      @awabfarass9054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MeekerMW why did you say the same thing 3 times?

    • @MeekerMW
      @MeekerMW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@awabfarass9054 ah fuck

    • @JellyMyst
      @JellyMyst 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you're a fan of TF2 as well as vtubers? Nice.

  • @hexa138
    @hexa138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Guy I'm dominating: [Gently blows my hair]
    Me: [Dies 25 years later]
    Game: THAT'S AN ASSIST. HE GOT REVENGE ON YOU!

    • @sillypinkmoth
      @sillypinkmoth ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i smell frustration

    • @yetanotherperson1833
      @yetanotherperson1833 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Meanwhile I deal like 75 damage to a scout, a soldier finish hims off, and I get rewarded with absolutely nothin

    • @UNALLOYEDSLOP
      @UNALLOYEDSLOP 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Guy I’m dominating 🥵😳

    • @hexa138
      @hexa138 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@UNALLOYEDSLOP holy shit is that a sex reference

    • @CuddlyTheMadElite
      @CuddlyTheMadElite 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The opposite is more frustrating. You’re trying to kill the guy who dominated you since the game tempts you to do. You finally found him because he’s been hiding behind 6 people and only dominated you through assists he got. You’re about to kill him after dealing 99% damage. But suddenly someone on your team being pocketed by a medic or some shit deals 1 damage to them. They get full credit for the kill and you don’t get an assist even. The Medic does, who literally contributed nothing to that specific kill.

  • @nubert916
    @nubert916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "If I shoot someone and they die, I am the killer"
    What a great quote to start the video

  • @shurbrrt
    @shurbrrt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    3:18 women after they see my lego bionicles collection

    • @betty-ld6wy
      @betty-ld6wy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL

    • @Qtheman3456
      @Qtheman3456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      mac_II out here spittin facts

  • @BotAurelionSol
    @BotAurelionSol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    3:18 "As if I would ruin a $3000 Dollar suit. Good. Good" - Spy

    • @Lactopurg4
      @Lactopurg4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is that from the comics?

    • @mane8246
      @mane8246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lactopurg4 is a voice line

  • @Bobcat1573
    @Bobcat1573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +655

    Me: “does 2990 damage to heavy robot”
    Scout out of no where: “uses pistol”
    Spy out of no where: “facestabbs it”
    Me:”doesn’t get even a assist”

    • @Fel1xF7W
      @Fel1xF7W 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      i mean you got unlucky because of the scout but if you don't frag the enemy you shouldn't appear in the killfeed
      edit: this was a surrogate activity and I no longer agree with this. if you liked my comment you are wrong lol

    • @Manavine
      @Manavine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      team: "ree can't you do your fucking job"

    • @cavalcadeofbobs3559
      @cavalcadeofbobs3559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I don't think you know what quotes mean

    • @Manavine
      @Manavine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cavalcadeofbobs3559 I have this feeling you forgot what dialogue means

    • @cavalcadeofbobs3559
      @cavalcadeofbobs3559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Manavine really, then I would like you to read that comment out like each character says the quoted words. Instead of, y'know, asterisks because these are actions and not dialogue.

  • @Umicron_
    @Umicron_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    Does uber-ing the killer increase the medic's priority? Like if the second medic to heal the killer Ubers the killer before they get the kill do they get the assist?

    • @Nigel-nv3lr
      @Nigel-nv3lr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Lol something similar to me happened last night. I was running stock medi gun and another medic went kritzkreig. We both had Uber and popped in on a pyro (killed like 8 people it was epic). Even though I popped Uber before him, only the pyro and the kritz medic got credit for the kills, since he started healing the pyro first

    • @kamils6975
      @kamils6975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Ubering does not increase priority

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Medigun, Kristkreig, and Quickfix Ubers should count

    • @allenholloway5109
      @allenholloway5109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nigel-nv3lr Good to know.

    • @sampletext9426
      @sampletext9426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Nigel-nv3lr
      now imagine a pyro ubered by stock, kritz and quickfix

  • @Kenajcrap
    @Kenajcrap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    great vídeo as always. But although you explained that the first medic to start healing you gets priority on the assist, I think it would be worth mentioning that this even applies if the second medic Ubers or Kritz the target.
    It is too common for a gibus medic who is just following a random guy to steal a good 5 or 7 assist when I Kritz him, simply because I commited the sin of healing my team as a whole, switching targets constantly and launching arrows :(

  • @JemiDove
    @JemiDove 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    A videoediting question (anyone can answer); how did you get the TF2 animated character models (and any animated ingame special effects associated with them) with a transparent background such that you could composite in your own background? Did you capture videos of them against a greenscreen custom map or something?

    • @shounic
      @shounic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      yes

    • @JemiDove
      @JemiDove 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@shounic I see, thanks for the insight :D

    • @hogpilot9735
      @hogpilot9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can use loadout.tf to get the animations you want and add cosmetics.

  • @kingjensen8091
    @kingjensen8091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    *hits guy for 8 with the pistol*
    TF2 when that person dies: Good work!

  • @Finluz
    @Finluz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "If I shoot someone, and they die, I'm the killer. Anyway, back to TF2..."

  • @frazer_1997
    @frazer_1997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Cute girl: "Hi! How you doing?"
    Me, an introvert, sweating, pissing myself and puking out: 3:23

    • @palidengamer2540
      @palidengamer2540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      first like

    • @Marsaw
      @Marsaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Where does the milk come from?

    • @ridhosamudro2199
      @ridhosamudro2199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Marsaw probably it's not milk in his case

    • @AviansEnthusiast
      @AviansEnthusiast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Hate to be that guy, but introverts aren't necessarily bad at socializing with people. You can be an introvert and be more confident around people than extroverts, it happens. Main thing is that introverts like their time alone, as that helps them recharge themselves from socializing and is where they feel most comfortable.
      Nonetheless, you're just making a meme

    • @Cece-Cece
      @Cece-Cece 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AviansEnthusiast neat info

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Another reason why the Jarate is the superior weapon

    • @razormaw
      @razormaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tis first time i saw you with so little likes and comments. Quite alien

    • @abdogad1
      @abdogad1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fr

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Me: *does 90% of damage to enemy*
    Random sniper getting overhealed: *body shots and kills them*
    Game: *credits the sniper and medic*
    Me: "What the fu-"

    • @turi6233
      @turi6233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *95%**

    • @John-ek4xc
      @John-ek4xc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine thats your nemesis

  • @alchemispark7751
    @alchemispark7751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:09 POV you're about to get vibe checked

  • @Calzonieee
    @Calzonieee ปีที่แล้ว +10

    0:01 You may be a killer, but you ain't man enough to be the Killa.

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 ปีที่แล้ว

      why didn't you just say 0:00

    • @Calzonieee
      @Calzonieee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidGaming69 ignore alt deletes your comment

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Calzonieeewhat?

    • @Calzonieee
      @Calzonieee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidGaming69 Ignore: Ignores comment
      Alt: Reverts attack
      Delete: Deletes attack

    • @DavidGaming69
      @DavidGaming69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Calzonieeeim confuse

  • @AzzieEquinox
    @AzzieEquinox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    After Jungle Inferno, airblasting people into kill barriers will sometimes ignore the airblast, crediting nobody for the kill. It'll just credit anyone who did damage.
    Additionally, the Shortstop's push will never credit you for pushing an enemy into a kill barrier, despite it dealing 1 damage.

    • @mohammadwaled409
      @mohammadwaled409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Man every day i discover new ways in which the shove is useless

    • @viporal7898
      @viporal7898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're disgusting

    • @mohammadwaled409
      @mohammadwaled409 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viporal7898 why? Because of the furry avatar?

    • @viporal7898
      @viporal7898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mohammadwaled409 you guessed correctly

    • @theali8oras274
      @theali8oras274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@viporal7898 you're disgusting

  • @ChipDrewPog
    @ChipDrewPog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another thing for buildings: You can also assist in destroying a building if it's sapped, if you hit a sapped building and it dies to the sapper you get an assist on it
    I think it works the other way around too where the spy gets the assist for sapping a building that is then destroyed but I'm not entirely sure.
    Though I don't know how a medic's healing plays into this, further testing is required.

  • @Kimri
    @Kimri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    3:19 The fact that you don't have any reason to do this but you did it anyway is why i love your content.

  • @creamgravy5732
    @creamgravy5732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a comp player and engineer main who often uses the frontier justice, thisis actually really valuable information
    Thank you! Been trying to figure this out for quite some time after thinking I should get sentry assists but them just not happening, but now I know that my damage has to be the most recent damage, and within 3 seconds, and debuffs or bluffs or healing can get in the way of assists being awarded to me sentry. Also, odd thing, it seems as though it is impossible for an engineer's sentry to get an assist from the engineer who built it, by which I mean if someone is peppered by my sentry and I finish them with my shotgun, no assist will be awarded

  • @commenter_HIMIK-MAN
    @commenter_HIMIK-MAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    3:18 Looks like he's dripping Skittles.

  • @Keiinnn
    @Keiinnn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woaaaah, the editing was great, keep up the good work dude!

  • @MrBump2
    @MrBump2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've always wondered about a lot of this, thanks for explaining. Many times I've never received obvious assist kills in a quick skirmish. Like, only the killer would get a single credit while I was attacking the enemy also. Must have been some of these unnamed instances you showed. Good video.

  • @spadesauce3391
    @spadesauce3391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just love how clean his videos are

  • @kazzafraz5607
    @kazzafraz5607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:52 I must go, my people need me

  • @thediamonddragon1256
    @thediamonddragon1256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “If I shoot someone and they die, I’m the killer”
    The more you know

  • @mrakhsaalaksamanap8203
    @mrakhsaalaksamanap8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The funniest killfeed will be forever assisted suicide by the enemy team

  • @TheFlamingPiano
    @TheFlamingPiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This thought randomly popped into my head a while ago, particularly about mad milk scout or medic getting the assist. Then I see this video.

  • @asdf-23512
    @asdf-23512 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine getting kill priority over a pocket medic by gassing all their should have been assists

  • @bingoos9641
    @bingoos9641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rest in peace, jim.

  • @killerspieler7784
    @killerspieler7784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "If i shoot somone and they die i'm the killer" Yep. That's how the law works.

    • @willowism
      @willowism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ...usually

  • @skepter4745
    @skepter4745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Engineers were harmed at the making of this video

  • @KT8D5
    @KT8D5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I just love when i almost kill an enemy and random soldier kills him wirhout my credit. Really, does it work or not?

  • @memesmemes3143
    @memesmemes3143 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so .... the sandman stun feature LITERALLY has the highest top priority in giving assist !!

  • @squishybrick
    @squishybrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:52 is the jarate.. .. Behind his hand??

    • @jepob7463
      @jepob7463 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes

  • @juangarcia-nc6ur
    @juangarcia-nc6ur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the spy face at 0:44 looks like sadness materialized

  • @toanuva6178
    @toanuva6178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:06, I think federally they’re called an accomplice

  • @sandunderrad
    @sandunderrad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jim is not having a good day.

  • @ismaelcortes1698
    @ismaelcortes1698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The Healing amputator Taunt effect count like "healing" (like the medigun) or like a "buff"?

  • @TF2Teleposter
    @TF2Teleposter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:19 the saddest spy

  • @alphagem7080
    @alphagem7080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You forgot about the spy when he saps a building and someone else destroys it the spy gets credit for the sapper

    • @VagueCastle649
      @VagueCastle649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since sappers are technically buildings that apply a debuff to engineer buildings, the spy gets the assist over the medic.
      _(Unfortunately does not apply to the cow mangler)_

  • @deerymoredeer
    @deerymoredeer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bless you for 3:21 I was so curious when you started throwing that at then engineer and wanted to see how it was with the 3 of them lmao

  • @NGoldtear
    @NGoldtear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I remember one time when I got a melee crit on a soldier taking him down to 5 HP, then the scout behind me shoots him for 5 damage immediately after, yet I don't get any assist at all? What's up with that?

    • @lesabreur3
      @lesabreur3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Possibly mad milked by said scout ? As demonstrated in this video, any buff / healing self applied to the killer might prevent a damaging ally to the assist credit

    • @lesabreur3
      @lesabreur3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ a bit of a stretch, but maybe a soldier using the air strike is counted as "buffed" while in the air, due to the passive of the weapon ?

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lesabreur3 I doubt it!
      also it was an example but it happened many times
      sometimes i got full credit when I didn't deserved it ^^'
      other times I abused these mechanics to steal the assists when i dont deserve them either hehe

  • @ThePikminCaptain
    @ThePikminCaptain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t forget the 5th spot in the assist credit list, items like the nabler/balloonicorn etc

  • @ranibro
    @ranibro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for curing my depression

  • @spidermanfan31
    @spidermanfan31 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been wondering this for over a decade now thank you so much

  • @mrstudent9125
    @mrstudent9125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What about Spy’s sappers when crediting building destruction? I thought they always have the prioritiy.

  • @funtechu
    @funtechu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. One little comment though since it might confuse newer players. Of the two people listed, the person listed first is the person who dealt the final blow (the video has it backwards).
    So if it says "Player1 + Player2 Victim" you know that Player1 is a pyro.

  • @sh4dowveil749
    @sh4dowveil749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If a building is sapped then destroyed by someone then spy should always get the assist, wtf gaben

  • @awesomesauce7264
    @awesomesauce7264 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fukin finally a video explaining this. You have no clue how many times I've gotten a sniper down to 2 hp as scout only then for a pyro with his stupid jetpack to fly in, steal the kill, and not give me any credit for the assist. As you can see, I'm really mad about this.

  • @viporal7898
    @viporal7898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You forgot to mention the sappers on a building. When a spy saps the building and someone else destroys it, the spy gets the assist.

  • @siewierszczyzna
    @siewierszczyzna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IIRC Spies also get assists if they sap a building that someone else destroys.
    I.E. If a Spy saps a sentry, but a Demoman blows it up after the sapper is placed but before the sapper actually destroys the building, the Spy will get an assist.

  • @Gis_Animations
    @Gis_Animations 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if someone is healed by a crossbow? Would they get an assist?

    • @notster7114
      @notster7114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has to be active healing to have any effect, passive healing doesn't mean anything for assists, sandviches and the like

  • @SU76M
    @SU76M 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, I like your analysis videos so much. It's so informative!

  • @El_Don_Comedia
    @El_Don_Comedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    mate, it's pronounced as "conqueror". Spongebob lied to you

  • @chadasmr8304
    @chadasmr8304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just really love how encouraging the system is for teamwork. Celebrates helping with recognition.
    I really do love tf2

  • @vinicius6136
    @vinicius6136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hey shounic i know this is not related to the video but i have question: in the guide you made to use your crosshair in tftv the guy that explains talk about "weapon script" and i dont know where the fuck this is, can you help me? thanks.

  • @_Kisaragi
    @_Kisaragi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "if I shoot someone and they die, I'm the killer"

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can we get an f in chat for jim?

  • @yourbuddymuddy
    @yourbuddymuddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:34 spies also get an assist credit if they have a sapper attached and someone else destroys the building

  • @stuff5757
    @stuff5757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey I'm in the video at the top right corner of the screen 0:11

  • @dylanw.4598
    @dylanw.4598 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk why but I absolutely love your editing

  • @MarkoVasev
    @MarkoVasev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @1:47 God i miss the stunn so fucking bad guys the current sandman is so boring but the stun was so fun.

  • @alexandredesouza3692
    @alexandredesouza3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're editing is Godly.

  • @sonofslop320
    @sonofslop320 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting, keep up the great work

  • @charbomber110
    @charbomber110 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the awkward pause at the end of the intro part, like that's just asking to be taken out of context.

  • @Slimyboi500
    @Slimyboi500 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:18 “I like my spy drippy bruh”

  • @redacted_lol
    @redacted_lol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! I was just wondering that recently. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @XallModel0
    @XallModel0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I love your content you are awesome and i think you really deserve more subs. Keep growing (:

  • @yukon7338
    @yukon7338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The editing is so good

  • @The_asdfghjkl
    @The_asdfghjkl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda glad that this guy still does tf2 things.So many people left due to the lack of new content.Just glad he still enjoys making this stuff.

  • @bobsbrain397
    @bobsbrain397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for answering just about every TF2-related shower thought I've ever had

  • @matteo-ciaramitaro
    @matteo-ciaramitaro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buildings recognize assists if the spy is sapping it and someone else destroys it. Happened today while I was playing spy.

  • @TextualDeviant
    @TextualDeviant 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:34 If it's really based on the first to heal and then the first to join the server, then what if they frame perfect joined the server and started healing you at the exact same time?
    A step further; what if all three events, kill included, all occur within the same frame?

    • @remedyreverie
      @remedyreverie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think that's possible, for all 3 happening
      Although, heal and kill happening at the same frame can theoretically happen with the right amount of ping.

  • @whammeister3002
    @whammeister3002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been wondering about this for a while, nice.

  • @foggyshades8338
    @foggyshades8338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All in all, perfect video! The only think you forgot to mention is sappers on buildings. If a spy has sapped a building and it gets destroyed by someone else... That spy always get the destruction assist!

  • @Viktority
    @Viktority 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your content, it is so interesting. You answer the deepest and important thing in TF2!

  • @orangy57
    @orangy57 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for making this, I've always wondered if there was a time limit to getting assists since you can sometimes do over 140 damage to an enemy and then not get the assist, yet some other class who barely did any damage still gets the credit.

  • @moopster1558
    @moopster1558 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is such an underrated channel holy shit

  • @Lirkz
    @Lirkz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "if i shoot some guy and i die im the killer" ah yes this floor here is made out of floor

  • @EpilegoumeFush
    @EpilegoumeFush 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great video keep it up brother

  • @DoctorX149
    @DoctorX149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed something- if a building is being sapped, but gets destroyed by another source of damage, the spy is credited with an assist.

  • @Boop__Doop
    @Boop__Doop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:19 that spy got the DRIP

  • @MasonJarGaming
    @MasonJarGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “If I shoot someone and they die, I am the killer”