There was a point where I realized all of my confusion about systems and rituals was pride, pure unadulturated pride and desire to subjugate. Once I broke through that and began following your book, it empowered the LBRP even more as it then became an opportunity to let go of my ego, and trust and surrender to a greater part of myself than my pride.
It's actually really cool how the LBRP works in that it makes it really hard to ignore what's keeping you from progressing. In this case your pride. It's really rare that people who have too much pride will realize that they have too much pride.
@@eanerickson998what book? Also perfect timing took a lot of psychedelics last night and realized that's like my problem. Prideful that I already knew this info before I learned it. But that doesn't make me anything, because I'm not the only one
@@lyamchristopher2393people were talking about a book that you put out that helped them with that? I just had that revelation last night. It broke me down bad I'm scared of becoming schizophrenic like my mother but I know this information isn't made up. I have no guidance
Damn, man… I would LOVE a part two on this!!! ;) (2nd comment is for the algorithm; and also, there are some of us who still hear you loud and clear; some of us are not confused whatsoever by what you are saying; would love more on it!)
@@lyamchristopher2393 thank you for the reply, my friend! Not only just how you touched on so well in this episode--I think its especially important (more than EVER in our current age of conveying a message in 30-60 seconds like YT Shorts,; or with Twitter, 160 characters or less; ETC ETC), I think it'd be prudent to inform the current-day/"modern" recipients of this knowledge---and considering the shortened attention span as well as the lack of time divided by the amount of distractions in this modern world----to expand just a little bit more as far as the detail of some thinking they can do things like the LBRP for example. Processes that can be so useful for some, due to media, movies, ETC., it is very much possible in days such as the Quickening time we are currently living in-for an individual teach themselves or BE taught something like the LBRP... And they may execute the ritual flawlessly, as far as going through the motions, saying the right words, ETC., however if these individuals do not understand that the LBRP is ACTUALLY doing on the Mental or Astral plane/energetic/etheric body LEVEL; my concern with "armchair magicians" is that instead of delving a little deeper, into the more ESOteric meanings... b (I am not rambling-im about to tie all this together, i promise!) While i do understand with your take in this video as the incorporation of "blinds" in occult writings---a "red herring" for those who pry the ancient thomes simply to use for their own gain-or, 'left-hand'... Or 'Black' operations.... Thus being why we do not cast pearls before swine---i get it. I just think that those of us like ourselves who have dedicated a large part of our time on earth to accomplish the Great Work.... Would be prudent perhaps using green language/language of the birds---speaking in a way those who are intended to hear it would get it-but Cowan's would not--- but the simple act of helping neophytes understand that for lack of a better tern, the "psychosomatic" effect of why these things work, which you did approach the topic in this first video-maybe by explaining this may help some to understand why they're not "getting results", as most want immediate results within the ritual, and their doubt even in the small amounts-will throw off their entire ritual; since they may understand that the same inner voice casting the doubt is the same inner voice that just did the ritual, in my view rendering the whole operation MOOT. Just like sigil magic; where after charging the talisman or sigil-you MUST destroy it-symbolic for forgetting about it. When they do not forget about it, allowing the thought form to actually manifest itself, they will continue to let that innervoice run amok: "i HOPE that worked" or "i wonder if that worked??" this is a big no-no! I just think by describing the psycho-somatic-like effect of Ceremony and Ritual... I have found it works really well to give the example that when you buy a car..... You aren't consciously LOOKING for similar cars to yours by make and model..... But one might SWEAR they are seeing their exact same very similar cars on the road, en masse. It’s just that the subconscious mind is not synching with the conscious mind… It seems very strange to those who DONT Understand; But once its explained that largely magical operation work in this very similar way; except you are CONSCIOUSLY looking or just being open to the system of Synchronicity that presents itself each day- and by simply understanding the 'basics' of the cognitive back-end of what i like to call things in the Occult such as ritual. Talismans, sigils, Ceremony, Tarot, ETC. Would love any input or feedback from you on the topic! Keep up such a great job in the Great Work my friend! Stay facing East! *Let There Be Light, So Mote It Be.*
Lyam, your videos have helped me so much on my journey. Honestly, without them, I may be a tad lost. You explain these complex concepts in terms I can understand. You even express the dangers I think everyone at some point thinks about. Thanks man, I really appreciate your work.
Going to be getting another copy of your book. Lately I’ve been between eastern and western and this and that and wanting my rituals to be a specific way and just, messing up my meditations with thinking of what other meditations i can do. So I started more zen mindfulness, OM mantras, pranayama and just bringing myself down, and it feels so much better. Thanks for how clearly you explain it all.
I remember doing the invoking and the banishing from the opposite ends as you suggested. I absolutely refused to do it . I saw it completely irrational and unnatural to me so I've been doing it counterclockwise/ clockwise since, only to find out that I am wrong. I have been wrong for about 2 years now, I will adapt and switch that's not a problem .... Thank you very much
Not sure what you mean. It might be better to ditch the ideas of right and wrong and simply begin to notice how systems of magic can be self-contradictory and at odds with the manifestation process. Even when they have kinks and ignorant errors in them, they can still work. However, the greater harmony between inner and outer, the more powerful the magic becomes.
@@lyamchristopher2393 I was doing the outer I'm going to do the inner for now on it just really seemed off but the way you explained it especially with the pentacles not even being the same color too that made it click ✊
You just confirmed something I’d been thinking and saved me from myself. Two days into practicing LBRP I was “editing” it and getting caught up in the CW and CCW and trying to figure out how this stuff actually works. Seriously, new to occult and I’m already messing with it, lol. I was trying to figure out a book to buy and resonated with your videos so thought about buying yours, and now this video cemented my choice for me. The timing of this video could not be more perfect. I needed to feel for myself why messing with this stuff wasn’t any good, as my results changed almost immediately, and this video taught me why! Thank you so much for this video and your other ones ❤❤. I really…*really* need to stop intellectualizing this.
Good! Just keep in mind that it’s perfectly fine to speculate about how magic works. Especially in your magical journal. The important thing is to let those speculations go. It’s a way of listening to what the brain has to share, and even a way of thanking it for sharing-but no longer mistaking those thoughts for reality.
You have a brilliant mind. I have run into a lot doubting myself Ive suffered psychosis many times when trying to grapple with magic. simply knowing that the nuances in the meanings and interpretations are indeed as deep as I feel them to be is helping me un-gaslight myself. Self initiation can be brutal
I think many of us are guilty of* this to some extent. I remember my teachers initially hit me with the "changes can be dangerous" line, which I shrugged off, so they eventually calmed my zeal by telling me that I needed to learn the rules before i could bend or break them. I will never forget the first time I stepped through the backdrop. My struggle now is making peace with the world we've all created without getting angry because I know so intimately what IT COULD BE. Yay, magic. 😮💨
When you said “you can’t mix systems” was definitely something I needed to hear lol. I started getting the “eclectic syncretic” thing going, didn’t work out too well. Gonna stick to GD Magick
Eventually, you'll be able to do the eclectic thing--but even then, you'll probably steer clear of mixing two systems of mythology together in one ceremony. We learn to appreciate integrity.
Thank you Lyam! The brain is a fine instrument to navigate this world, but is terribly blind and darn near useless in the others. At least in my experience. In the process of remote viewing, the conscious mind frequently tries to get in the way, to "fix" things. This usually results in incorrect information.
Thank you for sharing your insights on your video - add this to the long list "thank you's" in this comments section... However, I have a few elementary questions for you, if I may... In taking such an interesting yet contenious position I feel for sake of learning and discussion these questions naturally arise. 1. So do you consider yourself a purist/traditionalist when you approach your own praxis? 2. You proclaim yourself 'initiate', presumably you have sworn oaths at several intervals to not divulge secrets or gnosis attained - either to a group or to an audience beyond the physical/ or both. Yet you share your understandings here? Why? And what of your oaths? 3. Without using the answer "use your intuition"... 'Why should we believe you?' I feel is a just question given your claims. How do we know you are not a 'blind' or misleading gatekeeper yourself? 4. Are you suggesting that pracitioners like Crowley, who left the GD also "fell" for outer-order blinds/traps by creating their own systems? Along with many, many others. How do you reconcile the differences in systems that sprung out of the GD lineage as direct decendants? 5. One of the more glaring intellectual hurdles modern day aspirants face when canvasing GD gradework is the seemingly insurmountable assigned periods of gradework. Did you yourself complete the traditional timeframes for each grade or practice? Do you expect those who approach GD material in the 'information age' to spend years performing solitary basic rites before proceeding to more advanced rituals or ceremonies? When more advanced practices are a google, TH-cam, or book search away? Forgive me, but in revealing your 'inner' understandings there suggests a contradiction in your teaching between - 'doing the actual work and not deviating to come to these findings yourself' - and 'well here's the secret' 6. How would you suggest a self-initated solitary practioner evolve beyond the GD 'Portal Grade' toward 5=6? Let alone complete the gradework that got them there without a group? 7. You seem to imply that the trap is to "trap yourself in your own head..." In order to come to certain relevations or connections along the path isn't an amount of 'critical thinking' required in order to connect-the-dots? 8. I'm glad you touched on Mercury, however when we consider Hod, and all it has to teach us - is there not intellectual components as part of the evolution? What of the element of Air as well? Perhaps you could follow up this discussion with what role the intellect plays on the path, if any? Unless you disagree? 9. I get the intuitive sense, that your channel seeks to demystify and deoccult much of this subject matter, nobly. How do you think the secret chiefs, leaders, or teachers (past and present) would feel about the distribution of this information to the masses? Is this 'inner knowledge' in anyway dangerous in the wrong hands? How can humanity benefit from it? 10. There is seems to be an unusual ancient archaic evolution, then progressively lost devolution, then re-emergence in the interest of mystery traditions throughout history... Do you see the GD system as the pinnacle of ceremonial magick? Do you believe these systems, frameworks, and even the current itself will endure in its present form?
Thanks for such a thoughtful response! I'll answer the first three questions... 1. Neither, but such perspectives have value. 2. External interpretation: I have violated my oaths. Internal interpretation: The only true violation of the oath consists of passing along an external understanding of the mysteries as though it really is an internal understanding. Now that's what really counts as vulgar. 👹 3. That's a good question that I'd suggest YOU answer. If this stuff is legit, how can someone recognize it as such? For therein lies the key to a great many things! (Roll of thunder... 😄)
Thats ok Lyam, thank you for answering 1-3, I hope the other questions didn't offend you. They come from a sincere place of student inquiry and I think they remain valid even if left unanswered. There are so many self proclaimed initiates on TH-cam that I believe a degree of scrunity comes with the terrority. It becomes difficult to know who to trust for guidance or shared experience along the path. Your channel is one of the few that addresses areas of confusion. Arguably some of the most difficult conversations happen around these topics. So I commend you for it. I suppose my only real gripe is the frequent contradictions. One hand, you appear to encourage those toward a GD framework and to use the system as it was intended i.e. not to change things. But (by your own admission) on the other hand, you have broken the oaths of that tradition and you don't follow the traditional approach yourself. So it becomes slightly problematic/suspicious/hypocritical from an analytical perspective. Particularly when one minute you're experience-based then next minute dogma-based. To that end, cultivating the latter seems neglible in favor of data. Look you're hardly the first nor will be the last. I often catch myself in contradiction and I feel most are guilty of it. So please don't take offence when I say under cross examination, you tend to appeal to the authority of the term 'initiate'. I just think it's vital not to underestimate your auidence (on all planes) as you are not the only initiate or guide. Nor undermine other systems you aren't an initiate of. You have every right to be selective about the questions you wish to answer or not. However, my view is - in the end, the truth catches up with us all. Theres no debating truth. Those who lay their foundation in truth, be open to addressing scrutiny, and have nothing to hide seem to ultimately leave a long-lasting and enduring message. I often appreciate an author that prefaces the 'expanding' field of discovery rather than a case-closed book. I have no doubt you are a genuine practitioner and that your intentions are noble - but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. You once said grade systems helped gradually dissolve the individual's ego progressively - and to me that makes alot of sense when dealing with psychospiritual transformation. By the same analogy, you wouldn't send a novice diver into the most advanced cave dives in the world before learning the basics, correct? If you are earnest in your mission of unveiling 'secrets' publicly - I think equally you have a responsibilty for testing the veracity of your claims against the crucible of public debate. Clearly, in one form or another your aim is to raise collective awareness of the material as a public occult figure. I think it's fair to address intellectualism as a barrier as you have but what about the subjective experience trap? Can you say honestly say that your interpretations are definitive? It's when we can link our lesser individual subjective experiences/interpretations to a greater objective shared experience that I personally find amazing. When connections are made organically. I think the GD reconcilled much, but not all. And through that, my current understanding is that it's ok to not lock oneself into a rigid system, framework, or praxis and be open to being flexible or wrong as a way to grow through practice. So, I guess what i'm saying is... If my questions are 'wrong' or 'invalid' feel free to correct me because i'm open to being wrong myself. I'd be a hypocrite otherwise. "A true master is an eternal student." - Grey
@@greymagickdragon When I speak to librarians, I often come across this kind of reasoning. The issue of contradictions is easily dealt with. There is simply a larger framework at work here. It encompasses both the outer work and the inner work. This also indicates that there are two truths going on (at least!). Not just one. 1. Outer: The non-initiate must stick to his schooling somewhat dogmatically (we have to assume that they don't know what's good for them yet--even if they might). 2. Inner: The initiate creates their own rules (There comes a point where the principles of magic shift from becoming overlords to mere tools in the magicians hands. In addition, the initiate can clearly discern which principles to use and which one's to bow to--moment to moment). The goal is to get from #1 to #2 (even though there really isn't any place to get to). It's important to understand that there are multiple kinds of truth yet to explore, not just one. And that's not a problem for those who seek the ultimate truth. The ultimate, single truth still governs them all somehow, mysteriously. The adept learns to embody that mystery. This means he can never really speak the truth if he chooses to open his mouth. The truth can be expressed, moment to moment, but never pinned down in words.
Right. I looked into the lbrp because it didn't make sense in the order and saw other did too. However I thought it would be very foolish to change the structure without fully understanding the rationle. So I stayed with the original.
At first, I misinterpreted your use of the words "inner and outer" and I was wondering what you'd say. I laughed out loud when I realised what you meant. Lovely explanation, really validating of my personal insights. Interesting to see this from your angle, since my (emerging) system is quite removed from yours. Love from the UK. I'll be checking out the rest of your stuff.
When I noticed the pentagram seemed to be the same, my assumption was that it must be that air and water are at odds and more of one means less of the other, and that made sense to me because when people get really emotionally worked up they lose the ability to be reasonable and when someone is very intellectual they often come off as cold. Is that wrong, is that me just intellectualizing all over it 🤔
It’s good to speculate about the possible meanings of symbols, as in when we journal. More importantly though, it’s good to let go of the apparent meanings. To not mistake our thoughts for reality.
Good info, very important to have a sort of alchemical blend of mind and heart for the great work. Also yes purely vegan I don’t think works, I do a vegetarian based diet but I do “cheat” and eat eggs and once in a while fish. It’s important to be aware and thank the Goddess for the meal.
We all experience synesthesia to some extent. When we look up to ceiling with the high notes and bow down to the floor with the low notes, that too involves us processing the music in terms of sight and touch.
Pondering this concept and you point right at it. If the brain obsesses over quantity/precision then the Heart appreciates quality/accuracy. I guess romance would be qualitative.
I am very new to all this, and very much in my rational mind (recovering atheist materialst here 😅) initially, I felt pretty dumb performing RESH…but carried on with it as per instructions 😂…within the past week I spontaneously had a “hmmm” moment which led me to think about it a bit differently. This is encouraging.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. Emily Dickinson. William Blake. Edgar Allan Poe. Lord Byron. Percy Bysshe Shelley. William Butler Yeats (a Golden Dawn magician)
do you have a lot of 8th house placements? I wonder what your birth chart looks like, I wonder if its at all similar to mine. I got a Cap stellium sun/moon/merc 8th house. Love the vids btw :)
It’s be easier to trust the system as it is if the Golden Dawn hadn’t fallen apart & if one of its most outspoken characters- Crowley- wasn’t such a bizarre narcissist. Lmao. I wanted so badly the validation that the path I was going down would be worthwhile before I got into this. I never really felt that certainty, but I was still curious, so my compromise was to stay a neophyte indefinitely lol. I’ve already tweaked stuff though so maybe neophyte isn’t the right word 😂 I add sandalphon below and metatron above and Yeshua within during the LBRP. And I use the Hebrew godname for tipareth- Jehovah Aloah Va Daath for the middle pillar instead of the Egyptian abbreviation IAO. So I’ve been messing with the system since almost the beginning. I’m probably effing over the process for myself but idk? I feel immediate relief from anxiety after I practice & mental stillness. I think a lot of people who get into this stuff have a hard time with rules in general, myself included.
Those are ok. As long as you understand what we intend with the names used originally? I read that Metatron can be used from Damon Brand, but when I tried to use his method, I simply did not get the same results. Probably because there isn't a 5th and 6th element to assign him and Sandalphon to? No idea. I have also adapted the names with other names, including Jehovah and Ashera. I am not saying that can't be done, but I simply did not have a full understanding of the LBRP or LBRH to begin altering it. And yes, I struggled deeply with the failings of people like Crowley, but realized later that Crowley had his own system and his own intentions later on that weren't entirely in line with his earlier work. It can easily feel like a lot in the system doesn't "make sense". For example, I know much too much about the tarot and it's history, so the GD system of having Strength and Justice exchange places is a bit hard for me to swallow. The original system meant that the cards aligned with each other in 2 split groups of 11 cards. I think Crowley just did what he did to be an anarchist sometimes. LOL, I will never know. BTW, I have been a struggling neophyte for 10 years on an off as of this year. I have resolved to move beyond that this year, and watching Lyam's videos has been infinitely helpful. I wish these videos had been out 10 years ago XD
@@OhhhhhhhBugger It's sad to say that there is no known cure for (Crowley's) Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Other than to simply get away from someone who demonstrates its four major traits. The Golden Dawn system is Romantic. If we don't like Romantic art, music, and poetry, then we should stay out of Golden Dawn magic (otherwise we'll just end up trying to make it into a bitch that will "put out" for us when we abuse it in just the right way). Part of being a Romantic involves revaluing and reclaiming the power of "Find and fulfill your destiny!" Ala *Dead Poets Society*. Not Crowley's destiny. Not your parents prescribed destiny. Not your college professor's believed-in destiny. YOURS. Surrender to being extraordinarily YOU. There is no comparison, and no one can surpass you in being you. "I am Osiris shining!"
October 9, 1988. Got more comments coming, but only about the opera. The video is superb. Actually got suprised you laid it bare. I'm of the mind that it all should be laid bare. Those with the eyes to see will see and all that jazz. Of course, it's still moment to moment of what is revealed and in what way depending on the situation. Israel joking with some people at Arby's is a good example. 😂
I also chuck seeds of truth at people sometimes. It's never "my" decision, but I can choose to do it or not. From the ego viewpoint, even I have seen a couple seeds grow into positive changes for others; which dissolves rational doubt.
Great vid! There was a magician once that taught me to see the original golden dawn invoking and banishing of the 4 elements in a new way. They said, stick to the original but if in doubt, encompass it within a circle going clockwise or anti-clockwise depending if banishing or invoking. I have to say, that modification seems decent.
@@lyamchristopher2393ok, I finally watched the full thing, so well explained, thank you! Yeah tbqh I never really cared to much for satisfying the intellectual part of the invoking/banishing thing, I just stuck to the text book and figured it would make sense one day. This mental thinking was developed from years of tinkering with software and developing hacking techniques. Often when trying to understand some code I won’t understand it and instead of getting frustrated I would just let time and the subconscious mind work its magic and often a few days/weeks/months later I would have that aha! moment. Btw I am also a Gemini Sun! :)
Another great video, my friend. Thank you for your commentary on this point. I have found myself overthinking magick. When I stated practicing from the perspective of an amateur (for the love of it) rather than a master of it… I felt a noticeable positive shift in my practice. I guess you could say that I had been intellectualizing myself out of magick 😅
Hello, could you possibly eloborate more on the specific methods, that artists use to reinvent themselves? You have touched upon this particular subject few times before and i find it fascinating. Thank you.
lol so many people just do things “because they feel good” or validate them/their identity/mindset and then wonder why they feel stuck because they’re a slave to their own desires and preferences which create blindspots in their life and thinking. I say this in response to your critique of people making their own hodgepodge magical systems.
@@lyamchristopher2393 I mean, There have been accounts of Apports in context of Mediumship and Parapsychology. Even respected Parapsychologist like Stanley Krippner have experienced it. And, Others also have experienced it. I will probably incline towards it being actual phenomenon. Because, reality is too complex for these phenomenon to be not real in my opinion.
@@NamelessAwarenessG I would bow down before the principle of "Anything's possible" while also suspicious of my own wishful thinking. What is it in me that WANTS apports to be a literal thing. There's maybe an interesting demon lurking there.
I'm 10 years vegan and 9.5 years vegetarian before that. I'm pretty healthy. I've never had any of these defencies and I just had blood work done, just a little low on vitamin d which was easily remedied. If you're really non-dual, the Christian non-duality of "love thy neighbor as yourself" and "unconditional love" should extend beyond the human species to include animals and insects. Nothing is foreign to our compassion.
This is a terrible take on veganism. And I'm not sure where you're getting your nutrition data from. Veganism is not trying to stop all the murder in the world. It's trying to stop animal cruelty. If nature took it's course without human intervention and technology, there wouldn't be 80 billion land animals slaughtered every year and one to three trillion fish. Veganism is trying to correct the over-intellectualism of the animal ag industry. They took a curvy river of animals and tried to turn it into a straightened out slaughter machine for convenience and lots of money. Money on the backs of suffering animals. Tens of billions simply bred to be slaughtered. We wouldn't stand for this if it were humans, but because we have a prejudice against other species and a superiority complex, we assume it's okay to do with animals as we please. This is an indication of our level of awakening and hubris, as a human race. Wanting to correct this is not an intellectual pursuit. It's a path of heart.
Hmm, I am fairly certain that you cannot take a single step without destroying somebody's life. All life will eventually end. I do not believe in cruelty either. It is your INTENTION that shapes your character and spirit. In either case, this is your BELIEF system. Animals in nature, (ironically), do not share your beliefs, and slaughter each other mercilessly, often with great cruelty. There is certainly no "unconditional love" in nature. Nevertheless, all things are in oneness with each other. Would not a true non-dualism be better achieved by not separating yourself/segregating yourself from the rest of humanity who eat meat, and abandoning the delusion of perceiver and perceived? Just a thought.
@@OhhhhhhhBugger You cannot take a single step without destroying micro-organisms, plants, and small bugs, but you can greatly reduce the amount of harm you place on the world. I don't think it is your intention that shapes your character and spirit. Intentions are the end result of organic life unfolding, not the cause. Intentions are automatic, just like thoughts and all of the five senses. You don't think your own thoughts. You don't intend your own intentions. You may "choose" to focus on them, but even the idea to choose popped into your head automatically, without your own accord. It is not a belief that 80 billion land animals are being slaughtered every year, but it IS my belief that we shouldn't be doing that. The animal kingdom, does not do near the amount of destruction, as humans do. For the most part, they keep the Earth in homeostasis. What we do with animals and the planet does NOT keep it in homeostasis. We should probably try to correct that. Who says I'm non-dually separating myself from meat eaters? What kind of reasoning is this? If I think child abuse is wrong, should I just join the abusers? Because by taking a stand against it, I am somehow metaphorically separating myself from the child abusers? That's nonsense. Non-duality is not metaphorical. It's literal. No political or philosophical stance is gonna separate you from anybody. That's impossible. Everything is Here. The delusion is not the perceiver and perceived. It's the imagined border between them.
@@LoveJungle420 If you do not "intend your intentions", then, are you here, blowing up the comments section against your own will? Are you speaking for you? Are you eating what you do because you want to? Something to think about. Anyways, I have no intention of hostility towards you. I can see you are an impassioned person from what little you've written here, and don't intent to exacerbate that passion. I wish you nothing but good will and enlightenment in your life. Have a good rest of your day.
@@OhhhhhhhBugger Blowing up the comments section? You mean responding to each of the arguments you put out? These gotchas you keep posting really aren't thought out. Am I here against my own will? What will? I have an impulse to respond to your comments, just like you had the impulse to respond to mine. Impulses neither of us created or manifested. Of course there's no hostility. We're just exchanging ideas; debating. Have a great day!
I watched this video twice after you suguested I watch it. I had asked you a question about the adoration and the God names used. When I look them up they seem to be somewhat mismatched with how they're arranged in the poems. Ie Ra in my research is a noon version of the Sun rather than Dawn. Not that I will change it but it's just an interesting factor. We're you eluding to the fact I'm over thinking it?
Is a butterfly only understandable when it is dead and pinned down on board of labels with other species of butterflies? Notice how the mind can kill the soulfulness in magic. However, in your very efforts to pin the gods down, that effort itself, has a beautiful butterfly-like soul within it. Explore that instead. Where does the urge to pin things down come from? How does it arise?
@@lyamchristopher2393 Ah, use it as a cue for introspection simular to jungs, "that which irritates us about others can lead us to understanding ourself"? I think I'm hearing you. Perhaps not? I like the idea of interacting with the practice and letting it teach itself. But I also like the analytical scientific approach. I am balanced in that way. I temper direct experience with analytical insight. But I seek to understand the nature of all systems, to reverse engineer to build back better, more inclusive, compatible systems. As this is my innate skill set and function developed for selfless service rather than self centered acquisition. I see all the learning of the lectures and doing preliminary rituals like the QC MP LBRP ways to install a symbolic archetypal, mnemonic, NLP anchor system that creates a communication structure between the consious and subconscious. That once installed can be used for all different types of advanced internal technologies. I've always felt doing daily practice in alignment with the sun was highly beneficial in a multitude of ways. Muslims do this practice. Always towards mecca. To me, atleast on some level, it is a consistent reminder or revitalizing their belief structure, keeping it in their working memory, using it to actively change the user's experience. I come from the notion all religions are opperating systems for the "right brain abstract functionality" our intuitive capacities. Different systems use different means to install and maintain their opperation.
@@extrinsicdin You might want to consider how the balance you are referring to appears to employ analysis as a defense mechanism. A way of keeping reality at bay, locking it up behind labeled components. I have referred to something to explore, but instead the mind has pounced on the method I'm presenting. Instead of jumping in and just doing it. Does a fish learn to swim by analyzing swimming first?
@@lyamchristopher2393 I have been doing it daily and will continue to. I also researched the gods as per the instructions of your book "Magick and the great work" while researching I came across how they're associated to different times of day than in the poems. Hence why I'm curious. I would try switching the times around and God names but you seem to suguest not changing anything till after the portal grade. Also great book. I've read Regardie, Crowley, Ciceros, Neven Paar, Peregin Wildoak, studied a lot of Paul Foster Case material, BOTA, Frat LVX, and yours has a certain clarity that I appreciate that's lacking in the rest.
I had a thought while you were comparing the metric system with the imperial system. I have also heard and personally considered the human element of the imperial system, which is based loosely on the human body. We might say the metric system is colder and less human, because its system of measurement is based on logic, being “easy to remember” as you said. Perhaps the primary difference here is that one system originates from the mind, while the other originates from the body. Perhaps one system is not better than the other, or even more human than the other. Both systems originate from humans. Perhaps we can learn to see the charm in the mind’s way of simplifying things, as that itself is human too. That said I am an imperial dude 😎
I really enjoy these things. Although being honest is only possible for me to a degree. I see Intelligence as the one behind the curtain and matter as the curtain. Intelligence impresses expression on this curtain and the results can be infinite. A measurement of intelligence through material I would call Intellect. Intellect seems to be the modality for what I can see human doing. The "hard problem of consciousness" is the same as "the 1st was made last and the last made 1st". Really isn't that the black cube of Saturn? So the things I see talked about and the conversation are one thing and many of these systems do not point it out that "making" a point will only block your view. Unison of unity through disruptions and fractions is what science and religion seem to be acting out. Just like the primordial soup the mind of man condenses, dissipates, Crystalizes, melts, evaporates. Transforms.
24:00 I get your gist. This is really interesting. Reminds me of some attitudes Rudolf Steiner had towards mental abstractions becoming more “unreal.” He disliked abstractions immensely.
@@lyamchristopher2393 The scientific method relies on empirical evidence-testable and observable data-to form hypotheses, conduct experiments, and draw conclusions. It contrasts with abstraction, which can involve theories or ideas that may not be directly measurable or testable, often leading to more speculative conclusions.
The scientific method relies on empirical evidence-testable and observable data-to form hypotheses, conduct experiments, and draw conclusions. It contrasts with abstraction, which can involve theories or ideas that may not be directly measurable or testable, often leading to more speculative conclusions.
Your point seems a bit convoluted, Lyam. Can you clarify what you mean about the drama in scientific inquiry? It sounds like there’s a lot to unpack, but I’m struggling to see the core argument.
Does anyone have any recommendations for online courses that offer a good introduction into magick? I have many books, I am really just starting out in a practical sense. Where to begin 🤷♀️ I think chaos magick resonates with me, but if anyone has any advice I would be greatly appreciative 🙏
In "Kabbalistic Handbook for the Practicing Magician" by Joseph Lisiewski, PhD, on pages 66-69 he has a discussion and analysis of the circle of white light drawn during the LBRP vs. using a red light. Have you read this book and what are your thoughts on his analysis? Would you say that this would be more appropriate for Inner Order work?
@@lyamchristopher2393 in analyzing the LBRP, as an example, he questions why the circle of light is white. Since it is a circle of fire, he sees it as red (also as an offset to the blue of Chesed). His main point is to analyze and question. I like the process but also agree with you that the system should be worked as it has been handed down. I think that type of analysis is more appropriate once you are in the Inner Order. Work the Outer as received.
@@stevemitchell_H.Fr_VN When we encounter blue, that's not necessarily the blue of Chesed, even though there is a potential tie there. Would recommend a practice given by Ophiel in his book *The Art and Practice of Astral Projection." Put a small amount of vodka or rubbing alcohol in a wine glass. In carefully controlled conditions, turn out the lights and light the alcohol on fire. Look directly at the blue flame. That is the color of the LBRP's circle and pentagrams.
I've watched the mind and magic channel so I understand how magic works. But why do we do it? FC said that there was something more to it than getting sex, money, power etc But I don't remember him saying what that is. What is the point of doing ceremonial magick? What are we trying to accomplish? Can anyone clear this up for me? 🤷
The only worthwhile reason for doing magic is to bring an end to suffering. When we are not yet fed up with the phantom reality that our nervous system has created around us, there will seem to be no point in transforming it. One way or another, the fake reality will dissolve. Magic is the way to dissolve it quickly, even in a single lifetime. To live a life free of endless dissatisfaction. Such a thing is possible.
Most of us have cell memory from ancestors who evolved in the Northern Hemisphere. This means that our bodies and apparent subtle bodies respond instinctively to a clockwise motion as an abundance-producing action. This is why Golden Dawn temples in the Southern Hemisphere, like in New Zealand, continued to circumambulate clockwise for building things up. A general principle you might consider. If you do ritual work out under the open sky and you directly observe the Sun and Moon throughout the day, you might consider adopting a system in which counterclockwise is abundance-producing and clockwise is dissolving.
So... Different angels by the same name... Does that mean the angels we call in temple are potentially all different beings created by us giving them form and associating them with the energies/vibrations inherited by their name. Or are we all calling the same entities and there is only ever one Tree of Life in existence of which, we are.
Consider the ideas of the macrocosm and the microcosm. The microcosm reflects the macrocosm--but very much in terms presentable to our outward object-fixated kind of intelligence. The flavor of each taste will vary, but we are all eternally tasting the same thing.
Ok then one has to ask what makes Raphael over air and what makes the same name over Mercury? Did someone just make this up? Is it based on some kind of foundation or logic there has to be some, maybe Raphael needs a side hustle :)
Ive seen red pentagrams flashing through gold to black. They were circled and presented with impossible validity. I was raised Irish Catholic. I didn't look in to them before seeing them because I was told they were evil. I have a healthy respect or fear of actions resulting in damnation. But there they were man. I believe i was taught to fear them. But i did not just see fhem but i felt them not as gd or bad but as challenging!!
Dear Lyam, I've got Gemini in Sun,Mars, Venus, Mercury and Ascendant. Safe to say I struggle to get out of my head for almost 30 years now😅 Please recommend some of those romantics you were talking about 😊
Hmm. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. Emily Dickinson. William Blake. Edgar Allan Poe. Lord Byron. Percy Bysshe Shelley. William Butler Yeats (a Golden Dawn magician).
@@dakotahsimonson631 In my experience, he's not an easy read--and he tends to make magic into a science. Seems to be an initiate himself, but does not focus on getting into the inside perspective. Not sure why.
This is a good example of the intellectual schematic applying itself before the inner experience of a demon can arise. That's how blinds work, of course, and blinds are important when they function that way. However, what a demon is cannot be captured so easily. For now, I'd say that you can visualize yourself in a NESTED hierarchy. Anything that you can circumscribe with your awareness is held within you (and can be evoked), and anything that is beyond your ability to circumscribe cannot be held within. It simply fills you up in rising and falling tides. Such forces...that are beyond your ability to "contain"...would be invoked. The framework I just gave does not really capture the experience, but it might get us a little closer what's going on beneath the thinky mind.
@@lyamchristopher2393 but i see your point. you can only evoke what you have power over and must invoke what we lack or are unaware of and i guess this what people are referring to when the say “expanding consciousness” or awareness?
Ok you say changes you don't understand what changes could you mean? I know there is a purpose to keeping quiet but how about if you run into the Cypher Syndrome as I call it, when you find out the new life and changes are such a drag you rather be in the Matrix or your old self? What safeguards are for that?
@@lyamchristopher2393 he seemed so miserable he even wanted to forget it all! A bit crazy but I guess that is what the character wanted. As for myself I would have to confront such a situation and so far no, I might already be somewhat there but I am of course subjective.
@@dr.strangelove5708 Perhaps we are in his predicament right now. We have made our bargain, opting for no memory of who we really are. And some of us are beginning to see that such bargains don't really work.
@@lyamchristopher2393 Interesting idea I admit, I got an idea for the Cypher Syndrome from a YT video called Cypher Was Right, you can look that up if you wish. The video went into commentary why Cypher could have been right from his perspective about the Matrix and Zion and how that could even be some of us. I think what you are also alluding to is the scene where Neo meets the Architect and finds out he has been there many times before probably making the same mistakes.
This is actually an interesting point. I have thought about it a lot. But I don't think it really holds truth. (Never watched Matrix, I'm referring to the general idea of "going back after enlightenment) If you see your whole life is a "lie", well, in this magical path, there would be no going back. Try to go back living in the lie and forgetting the truth? Well, how? There's no one to make a pact to to forget, you've already learned it. If you try, well, you will recognise it in yourself you are being foolish. But going further, the "regret" I or you would think about right now that you would have doesn't actually exist. You won't really have it. It exists at an unenlightened state, but after the veil comes off you will see through even the "entity" which holds the regret you or I think I would have. Meaning the regret won't actually exist. Only if you cling to it, but that's because the state we are right now. I would say you simply have to trust that yes, the truth on the other side is very "different", but it is liberating. There is no going back, yes, but if we are honest, if there was any going back then this "truth" wouldn't hold much weight. Things that hold "weight" in life are things you transform you. Making by mistake green tea and not black tea is not an important event, you can go back and make another one. Truly important events are ones that impact you in a way that is not undoable. (Both positively and negatively)
Are you asking about how to "weaken" them? They exhaust themselves when you keep them from recycling. Awareness freezes them in their tracks. But of course, if you try to apply awareness as a weapon "against" them, you'll just banish them into a firmer, reinforced position "out there."
@@lyamchristopher2393 can I ask a little more from you going into specifics? A satanist ( Eric Koetting) 2 years ago sent demon Azazel to me obliging him to keep coming here. Even if I send him back with prayers etc., this demon keeps coming in my room everyday. How would you suggest me to employ GD rituals specifically to banish this demon? Maybe I should evoke him in the Triangle and force him to promise to stop coming? Or what else?
@@francofiori926 That is a really good question. This is part of the one-taste experience. All demons "taste" the same. They persist off of the feeling of affrontedness. You only need to face down a few demons before you realize they're all pretty much the same. When they arise in your behavior, it is because the sense of affrontedness you feel has been mistaken for something real. Once that happens, its the same as the snake mistaking its tail for a foreign object--and subsequently chasing after it (to eat it or destroy it or fuck it or whatever). And this means that there is only one true "master demon," the demon of affrontedness. Choronzon. The fear of being snuffed out of existence by something external. That demon is not outside the magic circle. It is you. Lucifer frozen in a lake of ice. Deal with him, and you "destroy" them all.
@@lyamchristopher2393 I am not sure about the part “lbrp and invoking angels will grow demons against you”. I found it’s the opposite; unless they were already angry or sent by some satanist. For example if one has a demon mark or a demonic pact and then start to call angels and go full rhp with gd etc. , THAT can make demons furious. First solve your pacts and issues with demons, then you start invoking Angels and do white magic or Abramithic rituals and religions.
i think i see, tell me if I'm falling for the trap again it's like someone who isnt an electrician looking at plan for wire network, thinking "this is a tangled mess" and setting up neat pretty wires that don't power anything or someone reading a book and going "man this narrator sure is unreliable, what if she just rold us whats actually going on" and end up with a book thats worse than original
Kind of. Just remember that the deeper level of understanding is not something we acquire. It's something we uncover. The methods of uncovering, of course, must be acquired and used. Once the uncovering has begun, the methods for uncovering change, but they are still present.
@@disnagburnazog9552 That's simply the idea that you are already enlightened. You exist beneath all of the problems you see sitting on top of you. Unmoved by those problems. Untroubled. Capable of sidestepping all dramas even as the world appears to fall into ruin all around you.
@@FraterDeweyDecimilus Oh, how I love to watch the show. It's so entertaining. A question, though: what are you expecting to learn here? Your cup seems full.
@@DrDuckDrDuck-jh7ki I'm writing four books current. One of which is an anthropology text that is currently more involved than I had ever previously expected or intended it to be. I'm not watching to learn anything per se. 23 years of daily practice and almost non-stop research and experimentation which has lead me to be one of the best in my age bracket possibly worldwide. At least outside of the folks associated with the various lodges and frats. Technically I'm fairly certain I smoke their boots as well in every category which is usually the case across the board. Probably why I somehow randomly wound up with 30+ students when I never actually intended on teaching. I listen to the Tube here just for background noise really. Just sucks when I have to stop writing to vhange videos because other supposed adepts are aspousing nonsense they should see through. What you probably think I'm referring to almost definitely isn't what I actually am. I'm being pulled away now by the wifey. Finish up here later maybe.
There was a point where I realized all of my confusion about systems and rituals was pride, pure unadulturated pride and desire to subjugate. Once I broke through that and began following your book, it empowered the LBRP even more as it then became an opportunity to let go of my ego, and trust and surrender to a greater part of myself than my pride.
It's actually really cool how the LBRP works in that it makes it really hard to ignore what's keeping you from progressing. In this case your pride. It's really rare that people who have too much pride will realize that they have too much pride.
The nature of insanity is that we don't see it as insanity. The first step to recovering from psychosis is to realize "Oh my God, I'm crazy!" 😮
Pride: Both a virtue and a vice. Alas!
@@eanerickson998what book? Also perfect timing took a lot of psychedelics last night and realized that's like my problem. Prideful that I already knew this info before I learned it. But that doesn't make me anything, because I'm not the only one
@@lyamchristopher2393people were talking about a book that you put out that helped them with that? I just had that revelation last night. It broke me down bad I'm scared of becoming schizophrenic like my mother but I know this information isn't made up. I have no guidance
There is an old Middle Eastern saying that goes: “ balek fi qalbek” meaning “your mind is in your heart”
In Traditional Chinese Medicine the heart is also "the seat of the mind" curiously
Damn, man… I would LOVE a part two on this!!! ;)
(2nd comment is for the algorithm; and also, there are some of us who still hear you loud and clear; some of us are not confused whatsoever by what you are saying; would love more on it!)
Thanks! What might you want to hear in a Part 2?
@@lyamchristopher2393 thank you for the reply, my friend!
Not only just how you touched on so well in this episode--I think its especially important (more than EVER in our current age of conveying a message in 30-60 seconds like YT Shorts,; or with Twitter, 160 characters or less; ETC ETC),
I think it'd be prudent to inform the current-day/"modern" recipients of this knowledge---and considering the shortened attention span as well as the lack of time divided by the amount of distractions in this modern world----to expand just a little bit more as far as the detail of some thinking they can do things like the LBRP for example. Processes that can be so useful for some, due to media, movies, ETC., it is very much possible in days such as the Quickening time we are currently living in-for an individual teach themselves or BE taught something like the LBRP... And they may execute the ritual flawlessly, as far as going through the motions, saying the right words, ETC., however if these individuals do not understand that the LBRP is ACTUALLY doing on the Mental or Astral plane/energetic/etheric body LEVEL; my concern with "armchair magicians" is that instead of delving a little deeper, into the more ESOteric meanings... b
(I am not rambling-im about to tie all this together, i promise!)
While i do understand with your take in this video as the incorporation of "blinds" in occult writings---a "red herring" for those who pry the ancient thomes simply to use for their own gain-or, 'left-hand'... Or 'Black' operations.... Thus being why we do not cast pearls before swine---i get it.
I just think that those of us like ourselves who have dedicated a large part of our time on earth to accomplish the Great Work.... Would be prudent perhaps using green language/language of the birds---speaking in a way those who are intended to hear it would get it-but Cowan's would not---
but the simple act of helping neophytes understand that for lack of a better tern, the "psychosomatic" effect of why these things work, which you did approach the topic in this first video-maybe by explaining this may help some to understand why they're not "getting results", as most want immediate results within the ritual, and their doubt even in the small amounts-will throw off their entire ritual; since they may understand that the same inner voice casting the doubt is the same inner voice that just did the ritual, in my view rendering the whole operation MOOT.
Just like sigil magic; where after charging the talisman or sigil-you MUST destroy it-symbolic for forgetting about it.
When they do not forget about it, allowing the thought form to actually manifest itself, they will continue to let that innervoice run amok: "i HOPE that worked" or "i wonder if that worked??" this is a big no-no!
I just think by describing the psycho-somatic-like effect of Ceremony and Ritual...
I have found it works really well to give the example that when you buy a car..... You aren't consciously LOOKING for similar cars to yours by make and model..... But one might SWEAR they are seeing their exact same very similar cars on the road, en masse.
It’s just that the subconscious mind is not synching with the conscious mind…
It seems very strange to those who DONT Understand;
But once its explained that largely magical operation work in this very similar way; except you are CONSCIOUSLY looking or just being open to the system of Synchronicity that presents itself each day- and by simply understanding the 'basics' of the cognitive back-end of what i like to call things in the Occult such as ritual. Talismans, sigils, Ceremony, Tarot, ETC.
Would love any input or feedback from you on the topic!
Keep up such a great job in the Great Work my friend!
Stay facing East!
*Let There Be Light,
So Mote It Be.*
@@My_Alchemical_Romance Thanks for the feedback, Alchemical. Might do a video on the role of a teacher. "Is a teacher necessary?"
Lyam, your videos have helped me so much on my journey. Honestly, without them, I may be a tad lost. You explain these complex concepts in terms I can understand. You even express the dangers I think everyone at some point thinks about. Thanks man, I really appreciate your work.
Another golden globe winner. Thank you🎉
Clicking youtube recs about esoteric stuff is a gamble but dice are kind this time, thank you for the taste
Going to be getting another copy of your book. Lately I’ve been between eastern and western and this and that and wanting my rituals to be a specific way and just, messing up my meditations with thinking of what other meditations i can do. So I started more zen mindfulness, OM mantras, pranayama and just bringing myself down, and it feels so much better. Thanks for how clearly you explain it all.
This was GREAT Lyam! This lecture felt like an addendum to KMGST. Definitely a lecture I’ll listen to numerous times!
I remember doing the invoking and the banishing from the opposite ends as you suggested. I absolutely refused to do it . I saw it completely irrational and unnatural to me so I've been doing it counterclockwise/ clockwise since, only to find out that I am wrong. I have been wrong for about 2 years now, I will adapt and switch that's not a problem ....
Thank you very much
Not sure what you mean.
It might be better to ditch the ideas of right and wrong and simply begin to notice how systems of magic can be self-contradictory and at odds with the manifestation process. Even when they have kinks and ignorant errors in them, they can still work. However, the greater harmony between inner and outer, the more powerful the magic becomes.
@@lyamchristopher2393 I was doing the outer I'm going to do the inner for now on it just really seemed off but the way you explained it especially with the pentacles not even being the same color too that made it click
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You just confirmed something I’d been thinking and saved me from myself. Two days into practicing LBRP I was “editing” it and getting caught up in the CW and CCW and trying to figure out how this stuff actually works. Seriously, new to occult and I’m already messing with it, lol. I was trying to figure out a book to buy and resonated with your videos so thought about buying yours, and now this video cemented my choice for me. The timing of this video could not be more perfect. I needed to feel for myself why messing with this stuff wasn’t any good, as my results changed almost immediately, and this video taught me why! Thank you so much for this video and your other ones ❤❤. I really…*really* need to stop intellectualizing this.
Good! Just keep in mind that it’s perfectly fine to speculate about how magic works. Especially in your magical journal. The important thing is to let those speculations go. It’s a way of listening to what the brain has to share, and even a way of thanking it for sharing-but no longer mistaking those thoughts for reality.
@@lyamchristopher2393 Okay, thank you so much!
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You have a brilliant mind. I have run into a lot doubting myself Ive suffered psychosis many times when trying to grapple with magic. simply knowing that the nuances in the meanings and interpretations are indeed as deep as I feel them to be is helping me un-gaslight myself. Self initiation can be brutal
Right away, i need to hear this. Im excited, because videos of this nature are finally showing on my feed. Congratulations to us!
I think many of us are guilty of* this to some extent. I remember my teachers initially hit me with the "changes can be dangerous" line, which I shrugged off, so they eventually calmed my zeal by telling me that I needed to learn the rules before i could bend or break them.
I will never forget the first time I stepped through the backdrop. My struggle now is making peace with the world we've all created without getting angry because I know so intimately what IT COULD BE.
Yay, magic. 😮💨
Thank you for this channel.
Have never clicked so fast. Have been waiting for someone to tackle this topic.
Thanks so much for speaking on this!
When you said “you can’t mix systems” was definitely something I needed to hear lol. I started getting the “eclectic syncretic” thing going, didn’t work out too well. Gonna stick to GD Magick
Eventually, you'll be able to do the eclectic thing--but even then, you'll probably steer clear of mixing two systems of mythology together in one ceremony. We learn to appreciate integrity.
Thank you Lyam!
The brain is a fine instrument to navigate this world, but is terribly blind and darn near useless in the others. At least in my experience. In the process of remote viewing, the conscious mind frequently tries to get in the way, to "fix" things. This usually results in incorrect information.
Thank you for sharing your insights on your video - add this to the long list "thank you's" in this comments section... However, I have a few elementary questions for you, if I may... In taking such an interesting yet contenious position I feel for sake of learning and discussion these questions naturally arise.
1. So do you consider yourself a purist/traditionalist when you approach your own praxis?
2. You proclaim yourself 'initiate', presumably you have sworn oaths at several intervals to not divulge secrets or gnosis attained - either to a group or to an audience beyond the physical/ or both. Yet you share your understandings here? Why? And what of your oaths?
3. Without using the answer "use your intuition"... 'Why should we believe you?' I feel is a just question given your claims. How do we know you are not a 'blind' or misleading gatekeeper yourself?
4. Are you suggesting that pracitioners like Crowley, who left the GD also "fell" for outer-order blinds/traps by creating their own systems? Along with many, many others. How do you reconcile the differences in systems that sprung out of the GD lineage as direct decendants?
5. One of the more glaring intellectual hurdles modern day aspirants face when canvasing GD gradework is the seemingly insurmountable assigned periods of gradework. Did you yourself complete the traditional timeframes for each grade or practice? Do you expect those who approach GD material in the 'information age' to spend years performing solitary basic rites before proceeding to more advanced rituals or ceremonies? When more advanced practices are a google, TH-cam, or book search away? Forgive me, but in revealing your 'inner' understandings there suggests a contradiction in your teaching between - 'doing the actual work and not deviating to come to these findings yourself' - and 'well here's the secret'
6. How would you suggest a self-initated solitary practioner evolve beyond the GD 'Portal Grade' toward 5=6? Let alone complete the gradework that got them there without a group?
7. You seem to imply that the trap is to "trap yourself in your own head..." In order to come to certain relevations or connections along the path isn't an amount of 'critical thinking' required in order to connect-the-dots?
8. I'm glad you touched on Mercury, however when we consider Hod, and all it has to teach us - is there not intellectual components as part of the evolution? What of the element of Air as well? Perhaps you could follow up this discussion with what role the intellect plays on the path, if any? Unless you disagree?
9. I get the intuitive sense, that your channel seeks to demystify and deoccult much of this subject matter, nobly. How do you think the secret chiefs, leaders, or teachers (past and present) would feel about the distribution of this information to the masses? Is this 'inner knowledge' in anyway dangerous in the wrong hands? How can humanity benefit from it?
10. There is seems to be an unusual ancient archaic evolution, then progressively lost devolution, then re-emergence in the interest of mystery traditions throughout history... Do you see the GD system as the pinnacle of ceremonial magick? Do you believe these systems, frameworks, and even the current itself will endure in its present form?
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Thanks for such a thoughtful response! I'll answer the first three questions...
1. Neither, but such perspectives have value.
2. External interpretation: I have violated my oaths. Internal interpretation: The only true violation of the oath consists of passing along an external understanding of the mysteries as though it really is an internal understanding. Now that's what really counts as vulgar. 👹
3. That's a good question that I'd suggest YOU answer. If this stuff is legit, how can someone recognize it as such? For therein lies the key to a great many things! (Roll of thunder... 😄)
Thats ok Lyam, thank you for answering 1-3, I hope the other questions didn't offend you. They come from a sincere place of student inquiry and I think they remain valid even if left unanswered.
There are so many self proclaimed initiates on TH-cam that I believe a degree of scrunity comes with the terrority. It becomes difficult to know who to trust for guidance or shared experience along the path.
Your channel is one of the few that addresses areas of confusion. Arguably some of the most difficult conversations happen around these topics. So I commend you for it.
I suppose my only real gripe is the frequent contradictions. One hand, you appear to encourage those toward a GD framework and to use the system as it was intended i.e. not to change things. But (by your own admission) on the other hand, you have broken the oaths of that tradition and you don't follow the traditional approach yourself. So it becomes slightly problematic/suspicious/hypocritical from an analytical perspective. Particularly when one minute you're experience-based then next minute dogma-based. To that end, cultivating the latter seems neglible in favor of data.
Look you're hardly the first nor will be the last. I often catch myself in contradiction and I feel most are guilty of it.
So please don't take offence when I say under cross examination, you tend to appeal to the authority of the term 'initiate'. I just think it's vital not to underestimate your auidence (on all planes) as you are not the only initiate or guide. Nor undermine other systems you aren't an initiate of.
You have every right to be selective about the questions you wish to answer or not. However, my view is - in the end, the truth catches up with us all. Theres no debating truth. Those who lay their foundation in truth, be open to addressing scrutiny, and have nothing to hide seem to ultimately leave a long-lasting and enduring message. I often appreciate an author that prefaces the 'expanding' field of discovery rather than a case-closed book.
I have no doubt you are a genuine practitioner and that your intentions are noble - but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. You once said grade systems helped gradually dissolve the individual's ego progressively - and to me that makes alot of sense when dealing with psychospiritual transformation. By the same analogy, you wouldn't send a novice diver into the most advanced cave dives in the world before learning the basics, correct?
If you are earnest in your mission of unveiling 'secrets' publicly - I think equally you have a responsibilty for testing the veracity of your claims against the crucible of public debate.
Clearly, in one form or another your aim is to raise collective awareness of the material as a public occult figure. I think it's fair to address intellectualism as a barrier as you have but what about the subjective experience trap? Can you say honestly say that your interpretations are definitive?
It's when we can link our lesser individual subjective experiences/interpretations to a greater objective shared experience that I personally find amazing. When connections are made organically. I think the GD reconcilled much, but not all.
And through that, my current understanding is that it's ok to not lock oneself into a rigid system, framework, or praxis and be open to being flexible or wrong as a way to grow through practice.
So, I guess what i'm saying is... If my questions are 'wrong' or 'invalid' feel free to correct me because i'm open to being wrong myself. I'd be a hypocrite otherwise.
"A true master is an eternal student."
- Grey
@@greymagickdragon read his book first.
@@greymagickdragon When I speak to librarians, I often come across this kind of reasoning. The issue of contradictions is easily dealt with. There is simply a larger framework at work here. It encompasses both the outer work and the inner work. This also indicates that there are two truths going on (at least!). Not just one.
1. Outer: The non-initiate must stick to his schooling somewhat dogmatically (we have to assume that they don't know what's good for them yet--even if they might).
2. Inner: The initiate creates their own rules (There comes a point where the principles of magic shift from becoming overlords to mere tools in the magicians hands. In addition, the initiate can clearly discern which principles to use and which one's to bow to--moment to moment).
The goal is to get from #1 to #2 (even though there really isn't any place to get to). It's important to understand that there are multiple kinds of truth yet to explore, not just one. And that's not a problem for those who seek the ultimate truth. The ultimate, single truth still governs them all somehow, mysteriously. The adept learns to embody that mystery. This means he can never really speak the truth if he chooses to open his mouth. The truth can be expressed, moment to moment, but never pinned down in words.
Right. I looked into the lbrp because it didn't make sense in the order and saw other did too. However I thought it would be very foolish to change the structure without fully understanding the rationle. So I stayed with the original.
At first, I misinterpreted your use of the words "inner and outer" and I was wondering what you'd say. I laughed out loud when I realised what you meant. Lovely explanation, really validating of my personal insights. Interesting to see this from your angle, since my (emerging) system is quite removed from yours.
Love from the UK. I'll be checking out the rest of your stuff.
When I noticed the pentagram seemed to be the same, my assumption was that it must be that air and water are at odds and more of one means less of the other, and that made sense to me because when people get really emotionally worked up they lose the ability to be reasonable and when someone is very intellectual they often come off as cold. Is that wrong, is that me just intellectualizing all over it 🤔
It’s good to speculate about the possible meanings of symbols, as in when we journal. More importantly though, it’s good to let go of the apparent meanings. To not mistake our thoughts for reality.
You know what's funny? A vegan "compassionately" putting a spider back outside with all the other insects 🕷🕸 🩸🩸🩸
Good info, very important to have a sort of alchemical blend of mind and heart for the great work. Also yes purely vegan I don’t think works, I do a vegetarian based diet but I do “cheat” and eat eggs and once in a while fish. It’s important to be aware and thank the Goddess for the meal.
I could see and feel and taste and touch it as i listened to the songs and sounds of everything it wasn't.
We all experience synesthesia to some extent. When we look up to ceiling with the high notes and bow down to the floor with the low notes, that too involves us processing the music in terms of sight and touch.
Pondering this concept and you point right at it. If the brain obsesses over quantity/precision then the Heart appreciates quality/accuracy. I guess romance would be qualitative.
I am very new to all this, and very much in my rational mind (recovering atheist materialst here 😅) initially, I felt pretty dumb performing RESH…but carried on with it as per instructions 😂…within the past week I spontaneously had a “hmmm” moment which led me to think about it a bit differently. This is encouraging.
Please talk about the Romantics! Also: How do you feel about Paul Foster Case? His Tarot book is helping see inner concepts as well.
Hmm...
Thank you! Your presentation has been truly magical.
Thanks for sharing knowledge so generously. I'd like to know your recommendations about Romantic literature and authors.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. Emily Dickinson. William Blake. Edgar Allan Poe. Lord Byron. Percy Bysshe Shelley. William Butler Yeats (a Golden Dawn magician)
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do you have a lot of 8th house placements? I wonder what your birth chart looks like, I wonder if its at all similar to mine. I got a Cap stellium sun/moon/merc 8th house. Love the vids btw :)
Jupiter in Leo in the eighth house. Who's your daddy! 😆
It’s be easier to trust the system as it is if the Golden Dawn hadn’t fallen apart & if one of its most outspoken characters- Crowley- wasn’t such a bizarre narcissist. Lmao. I wanted so badly the validation that the path I was going down would be worthwhile before I got into this. I never really felt that certainty, but I was still curious, so my compromise was to stay a neophyte indefinitely lol. I’ve already tweaked stuff though so maybe neophyte isn’t the right word 😂 I add sandalphon below and metatron above and Yeshua within during the LBRP. And I use the Hebrew godname for tipareth- Jehovah Aloah Va Daath for the middle pillar instead of the Egyptian abbreviation IAO. So I’ve been messing with the system since almost the beginning. I’m probably effing over the process for myself but idk? I feel immediate relief from anxiety after I practice & mental stillness. I think a lot of people who get into this stuff have a hard time with rules in general, myself included.
The Neophyte Grade is all one really needs. But stagnating can become an issue, and a teacher could help.
Those are ok. As long as you understand what we intend with the names used originally? I read that Metatron can be used from Damon Brand, but when I tried to use his method, I simply did not get the same results. Probably because there isn't a 5th and 6th element to assign him and Sandalphon to? No idea. I have also adapted the names with other names, including Jehovah and Ashera. I am not saying that can't be done, but I simply did not have a full understanding of the LBRP or LBRH to begin altering it.
And yes, I struggled deeply with the failings of people like Crowley, but realized later that Crowley had his own system and his own intentions later on that weren't entirely in line with his earlier work. It can easily feel like a lot in the system doesn't "make sense". For example, I know much too much about the tarot and it's history, so the GD system of having Strength and Justice exchange places is a bit hard for me to swallow. The original system meant that the cards aligned with each other in 2 split groups of 11 cards. I think Crowley just did what he did to be an anarchist sometimes. LOL, I will never know.
BTW, I have been a struggling neophyte for 10 years on an off as of this year. I have resolved to move beyond that this year, and watching Lyam's videos has been infinitely helpful. I wish these videos had been out 10 years ago XD
@@OhhhhhhhBugger It's sad to say that there is no known cure for (Crowley's) Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Other than to simply get away from someone who demonstrates its four major traits.
The Golden Dawn system is Romantic. If we don't like Romantic art, music, and poetry, then we should stay out of Golden Dawn magic (otherwise we'll just end up trying to make it into a bitch that will "put out" for us when we abuse it in just the right way). Part of being a Romantic involves revaluing and reclaiming the power of "Find and fulfill your destiny!" Ala *Dead Poets Society*. Not Crowley's destiny. Not your parents prescribed destiny. Not your college professor's believed-in destiny. YOURS. Surrender to being extraordinarily YOU. There is no comparison, and no one can surpass you in being you. "I am Osiris shining!"
October 9, 1988. Got more comments coming, but only about the opera. The video is superb. Actually got suprised you laid it bare. I'm of the mind that it all should be laid bare. Those with the eyes to see will see and all that jazz. Of course, it's still moment to moment of what is revealed and in what way depending on the situation.
Israel joking with some people at Arby's is a good example. 😂
I also chuck seeds of truth at people sometimes. It's never "my" decision, but I can choose to do it or not. From the ego viewpoint, even I have seen a couple seeds grow into positive changes for others; which dissolves rational doubt.
Great vid! There was a magician once that taught me to see the original golden dawn invoking and banishing of the 4 elements in a new way. They said, stick to the original but if in doubt, encompass it within a circle going clockwise or anti-clockwise depending if banishing or invoking. I have to say, that modification seems decent.
You probably didn’t see the end of the vid where the clockwise/counterclockwise principles get redefined.
@@lyamchristopher2393ha! Yes I’m still watching, juggling kids and time… 😅
@@lyamchristopher2393ok, I finally watched the full thing, so well explained, thank you! Yeah tbqh I never really cared to much for satisfying the intellectual part of the invoking/banishing thing, I just stuck to the text book and figured it would make sense one day. This mental thinking was developed from years of tinkering with software and developing hacking techniques. Often when trying to understand some code I won’t understand it and instead of getting frustrated I would just let time and the subconscious mind work its magic and often a few days/weeks/months later I would have that aha! moment. Btw I am also a Gemini Sun! :)
Another great video, my friend. Thank you for your commentary on this point. I have found myself overthinking magick. When I stated practicing from the perspective of an amateur (for the love of it) rather than a master of it… I felt a noticeable positive shift in my practice. I guess you could say that I had been intellectualizing myself out of magick 😅
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Hello, could you possibly eloborate more on the specific methods, that artists use to reinvent themselves? You have touched upon this particular subject few times before and i find it fascinating. Thank you.
What a fabulous idea. :)
lol so many people just do things “because they feel good” or validate them/their identity/mindset and then wonder why they feel stuck because they’re a slave to their own desires and preferences which create blindspots in their life and thinking. I say this in response to your critique of people making their own hodgepodge magical systems.
The remedies that we imagine for ourselves constellate the nature of our mental illness.
Hey man, I wanted to know if Apports phenomenon are real or not? So, can you tell me what do you think of apports?
Can't say I've ever witnessed an apport. Not literally, anyway. Sound like there might be a good story behind this inquire.
@@lyamchristopher2393 I mean, There have been accounts of Apports in context of Mediumship and Parapsychology. Even respected Parapsychologist like Stanley Krippner have experienced it. And, Others also have experienced it. I will probably incline towards it being actual phenomenon. Because, reality is too complex for these phenomenon to be not real in my opinion.
@@NamelessAwarenessG I would bow down before the principle of "Anything's possible" while also suspicious of my own wishful thinking. What is it in me that WANTS apports to be a literal thing. There's maybe an interesting demon lurking there.
@@lyamchristopher2393 Or, Possibly, In the deepest layers of unconsciousness, Your soul knows this phenomenon is real.
I'm 10 years vegan and 9.5 years vegetarian before that. I'm pretty healthy. I've never had any of these defencies and I just had blood work done, just a little low on vitamin d which was easily remedied. If you're really non-dual, the Christian non-duality of "love thy neighbor as yourself" and "unconditional love" should extend beyond the human species to include animals and insects. Nothing is foreign to our compassion.
This is a terrible take on veganism. And I'm not sure where you're getting your nutrition data from. Veganism is not trying to stop all the murder in the world. It's trying to stop animal cruelty. If nature took it's course without human intervention and technology, there wouldn't be 80 billion land animals slaughtered every year and one to three trillion fish.
Veganism is trying to correct the over-intellectualism of the animal ag industry. They took a curvy river of animals and tried to turn it into a straightened out slaughter machine for convenience and lots of money. Money on the backs of suffering animals. Tens of billions simply bred to be slaughtered.
We wouldn't stand for this if it were humans, but because we have a prejudice against other species and a superiority complex, we assume it's okay to do with animals as we please.
This is an indication of our level of awakening and hubris, as a human race. Wanting to correct this is not an intellectual pursuit. It's a path of heart.
Hmm, I am fairly certain that you cannot take a single step without destroying somebody's life. All life will eventually end. I do not believe in cruelty either. It is your INTENTION that shapes your character and spirit.
In either case, this is your BELIEF system. Animals in nature, (ironically), do not share your beliefs, and slaughter each other mercilessly, often with great cruelty. There is certainly no "unconditional love" in nature. Nevertheless, all things are in oneness with each other.
Would not a true non-dualism be better achieved by not separating yourself/segregating yourself from the rest of humanity who eat meat, and abandoning the delusion of perceiver and perceived?
Just a thought.
@@OhhhhhhhBugger You cannot take a single step without destroying micro-organisms, plants, and small bugs, but you can greatly reduce the amount of harm you place on the world.
I don't think it is your intention that shapes your character and spirit. Intentions are the end result of organic life unfolding, not the cause. Intentions are automatic, just like thoughts and all of the five senses. You don't think your own thoughts. You don't intend your own intentions. You may "choose" to focus on them, but even the idea to choose popped into your head automatically, without your own accord.
It is not a belief that 80 billion land animals are being slaughtered every year, but it IS my belief that we shouldn't be doing that. The animal kingdom, does not do near the amount of destruction, as humans do. For the most part, they keep the Earth in homeostasis. What we do with animals and the planet does NOT keep it in homeostasis. We should probably try to correct that.
Who says I'm non-dually separating myself from meat eaters? What kind of reasoning is this? If I think child abuse is wrong, should I just join the abusers? Because by taking a stand against it, I am somehow metaphorically separating myself from the child abusers? That's nonsense. Non-duality is not metaphorical. It's literal. No political or philosophical stance is gonna separate you from anybody. That's impossible. Everything is Here.
The delusion is not the perceiver and perceived. It's the imagined border between them.
@@LoveJungle420 If you do not "intend your intentions", then, are you here, blowing up the comments section against your own will? Are you speaking for you? Are you eating what you do because you want to? Something to think about.
Anyways, I have no intention of hostility towards you. I can see you are an impassioned person from what little you've written here, and don't intent to exacerbate that passion. I wish you nothing but good will and enlightenment in your life.
Have a good rest of your day.
@@OhhhhhhhBugger Blowing up the comments section? You mean responding to each of the arguments you put out?
These gotchas you keep posting really aren't thought out. Am I here against my own will? What will? I have an impulse to respond to your comments, just like you had the impulse to respond to mine. Impulses neither of us created or manifested.
Of course there's no hostility. We're just exchanging ideas; debating. Have a great day!
Interesting topic...
Thanks for posting this. Very interesting
11:44 Nailed it.
I watched this video twice after you suguested I watch it. I had asked you a question about the adoration and the God names used. When I look them up they seem to be somewhat mismatched with how they're arranged in the poems.
Ie Ra in my research is a noon version of the Sun rather than Dawn. Not that I will change it but it's just an interesting factor. We're you eluding to the fact I'm over thinking it?
Is a butterfly only understandable when it is dead and pinned down on board of labels with other species of butterflies? Notice how the mind can kill the soulfulness in magic.
However, in your very efforts to pin the gods down, that effort itself, has a beautiful butterfly-like soul within it. Explore that instead. Where does the urge to pin things down come from? How does it arise?
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Ah, use it as a cue for introspection simular to jungs, "that which irritates us about others can lead us to understanding ourself"? I think I'm hearing you. Perhaps not?
I like the idea of interacting with the practice and letting it teach itself. But I also like the analytical scientific approach. I am balanced in that way. I temper direct experience with analytical insight.
But I seek to understand the nature of all systems, to reverse engineer to build back better, more inclusive, compatible systems. As this is my innate skill set and function developed for selfless service rather than self centered acquisition.
I see all the learning of the lectures and doing preliminary rituals like the QC MP LBRP ways to install a symbolic archetypal, mnemonic, NLP anchor system that creates a communication structure between the consious and subconscious. That once installed can be used for all different types of advanced internal technologies.
I've always felt doing daily practice in alignment with the sun was highly beneficial in a multitude of ways. Muslims do this practice. Always towards mecca. To me, atleast on some level, it is a consistent reminder or revitalizing their belief structure, keeping it in their working memory, using it to actively change the user's experience.
I come from the notion all religions are opperating systems for the "right brain abstract functionality" our intuitive capacities. Different systems use different means to install and maintain their opperation.
@@extrinsicdin You might want to consider how the balance you are referring to appears to employ analysis as a defense mechanism. A way of keeping reality at bay, locking it up behind labeled components. I have referred to something to explore, but instead the mind has pounced on the method I'm presenting. Instead of jumping in and just doing it.
Does a fish learn to swim by analyzing swimming first?
@@lyamchristopher2393 I have been doing it daily and will continue to. I also researched the gods as per the instructions of your book "Magick and the great work" while researching I came across how they're associated to different times of day than in the poems. Hence why I'm curious. I would try switching the times around and God names but you seem to suguest not changing anything till after the portal grade.
Also great book. I've read Regardie, Crowley, Ciceros, Neven Paar, Peregin Wildoak, studied a lot of Paul Foster Case material, BOTA, Frat LVX, and yours has a certain clarity that I appreciate that's lacking in the rest.
I'm glad I found this video
Fantastic video, thank you. I'll definitely return to it again.
Very useful 🙏🏽thanks
I had a thought while you were comparing the metric system with the imperial system. I have also heard and personally considered the human element of the imperial system, which is based loosely on the human body. We might say the metric system is colder and less human, because its system of measurement is based on logic, being “easy to remember” as you said.
Perhaps the primary difference here is that one system originates from the mind, while the other originates from the body. Perhaps one system is not better than the other, or even more human than the other. Both systems originate from humans. Perhaps we can learn to see the charm in the mind’s way of simplifying things, as that itself is human too.
That said I am an imperial dude 😎
One system as grown forth from life. The other is fantasized as being applied upon life, as though from some other realm.
I really enjoy these things. Although being honest is only possible for me to a degree. I see Intelligence as the one behind the curtain and matter as the curtain. Intelligence impresses expression on this curtain and the results can be infinite. A measurement of intelligence through material I would call Intellect. Intellect seems to be the modality for what I can see human doing. The "hard problem of consciousness" is the same as "the 1st was made last and the last made 1st". Really isn't that the black cube of Saturn? So the things I see talked about and the conversation are one thing and many of these systems do not point it out that "making" a point will only block your view.
Unison of unity through disruptions and fractions is what science and religion seem to be acting out. Just like the primordial soup the mind of man condenses, dissipates, Crystalizes, melts, evaporates. Transforms.
Oh, I like that! "Making a point will only block your view..." Hmm.
24:00 I get your gist. This is really interesting. Reminds me of some attitudes Rudolf Steiner had towards mental abstractions becoming more “unreal.” He disliked abstractions immensely.
There are abstractions, and then there are ABSTRACTIONS.
@@lyamchristopher2393 just thinking about it puts me in an abstracted mood 😂
Thank you for your insight and knowledge!
Empirical experimental causal inference: where hypotheses meet reality, and only one survives
There can be only one, true hypothesis? Survival of the fittest? Where does that drama come from? And who--or what--benefits from it?
@@lyamchristopher2393 The scientific method relies on empirical evidence-testable and observable data-to form hypotheses, conduct experiments, and draw conclusions. It contrasts with abstraction, which can involve theories or ideas that may not be directly measurable or testable, often leading to more speculative conclusions.
The scientific method relies on empirical evidence-testable and observable data-to form hypotheses, conduct experiments, and draw conclusions. It contrasts with abstraction, which can involve theories or ideas that may not be directly measurable or testable, often leading to more speculative conclusions.
@@PuppetMasterdaath144 That's not an answer to what I asked. 😉
Your point seems a bit convoluted, Lyam. Can you clarify what you mean about the drama in scientific inquiry? It sounds like there’s a lot to unpack, but I’m struggling to see the core argument.
Does anyone have any recommendations for online courses that offer a good introduction into magick? I have many books, I am really just starting out in a practical sense. Where to begin 🤷♀️
I think chaos magick resonates with me, but if anyone has any advice I would be greatly appreciative 🙏
In "Kabbalistic Handbook for the Practicing Magician" by Joseph Lisiewski, PhD, on pages 66-69 he has a discussion and analysis of the circle of white light drawn during the LBRP vs. using a red light. Have you read this book and what are your thoughts on his analysis? Would you say that this would be more appropriate for Inner Order work?
Not sure. Haven't read it. What's your take?
@@lyamchristopher2393 in analyzing the LBRP, as an example, he questions why the circle of light is white. Since it is a circle of fire, he sees it as red (also as an offset to the blue of Chesed). His main point is to analyze and question. I like the process but also agree with you that the system should be worked as it has been handed down. I think that type of analysis is more appropriate once you are in the Inner Order. Work the Outer as received.
@@stevemitchell_H.Fr_VN When we encounter blue, that's not necessarily the blue of Chesed, even though there is a potential tie there. Would recommend a practice given by Ophiel in his book *The Art and Practice of Astral Projection." Put a small amount of vodka or rubbing alcohol in a wine glass. In carefully controlled conditions, turn out the lights and light the alcohol on fire. Look directly at the blue flame. That is the color of the LBRP's circle and pentagrams.
I've watched the mind and magic channel so I understand how magic works.
But why do we do it?
FC said that there was something more to it than getting sex, money, power etc
But I don't remember him saying what that is.
What is the point of doing ceremonial magick?
What are we trying to accomplish?
Can anyone clear this up for me? 🤷
The only worthwhile reason for doing magic is to bring an end to suffering. When we are not yet fed up with the phantom reality that our nervous system has created around us, there will seem to be no point in transforming it.
One way or another, the fake reality will dissolve. Magic is the way to dissolve it quickly, even in a single lifetime. To live a life free of endless dissatisfaction. Such a thing is possible.
Is this the same if you live in the southern hemisphere ?
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Most of us have cell memory from ancestors who evolved in the Northern Hemisphere. This means that our bodies and apparent subtle bodies respond instinctively to a clockwise motion as an abundance-producing action. This is why Golden Dawn temples in the Southern Hemisphere, like in New Zealand, continued to circumambulate clockwise for building things up.
A general principle you might consider. If you do ritual work out under the open sky and you directly observe the Sun and Moon throughout the day, you might consider adopting a system in which counterclockwise is abundance-producing and clockwise is dissolving.
On Romantic lit recs: Have any for someone who prefers the novel?
_The Lord of the Rings_ by JRR Tolkien. _Interview with the Vampire_ by Anne Rice.
Remote viewing is also cyberstalking on my devices by abusive narcissist.
So... Different angels by the same name... Does that mean the angels we call in temple are potentially all different beings created by us giving them form and associating them with the energies/vibrations inherited by their name. Or are we all calling the same entities and there is only ever one Tree of Life in existence of which, we are.
Consider the ideas of the macrocosm and the microcosm. The microcosm reflects the macrocosm--but very much in terms presentable to our outward object-fixated kind of intelligence. The flavor of each taste will vary, but we are all eternally tasting the same thing.
Ok then one has to ask what makes Raphael over air and what makes the same name over Mercury? Did someone just make this up? Is it based on some kind of foundation or logic there has to be some, maybe Raphael needs a side hustle :)
31:00 Great points!
What would the human body temperature be if water froze at 0°F instead of 32?
At what altitude or barometric pressure?
1:06 Do you like the Symbolist painters? I find them akin to the Romantic writers.
Love them. :)
Ive seen red pentagrams flashing through gold to black. They were circled and presented with impossible validity. I was raised Irish Catholic. I didn't look in to them before seeing them because I was told they were evil. I have a healthy respect or fear of actions resulting in damnation. But there they were man. I believe i was taught to fear them. But i did not just see fhem but i felt them not as gd or bad but as challenging!!
Watch the video about the "single word that can enlighten you faster." 😉
Dear Lyam, I've got Gemini in Sun,Mars, Venus, Mercury and Ascendant.
Safe to say I struggle to get out of my head for almost 30 years now😅
Please recommend some of those romantics you were talking about 😊
Hmm. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. Emily Dickinson. William Blake. Edgar Allan Poe. Lord Byron. Percy Bysshe Shelley. William Butler Yeats (a Golden Dawn magician).
@@lyamchristopher2393 thanks! Didn't know Poe was one of them, I really liked his Mask of the Red Death.
@@mvrko8064 🥰"The Raven" I consider the best poem of all time.
Hey is choas magick a thing? Is it safe?
Ha! Is any magic safe? Check out the work of Peter Carroll.
@lyamchristopher2393 oooh that's complicated liber null psychonaut
@@dakotahsimonson631 In my experience, he's not an easy read--and he tends to make magic into a science. Seems to be an initiate himself, but does not focus on getting into the inside perspective. Not sure why.
@lyamchristopher2393 that's odd!..your right....
@@dakotahsimonson631 Peter was friends with my teacher, one of the co-chiefs of Ra Horakhty Temple, though I never met him.
when you say demons are you referring to the demonized Gods that ended up getting sealed by Solomon and released or just low level enitites
This is a good example of the intellectual schematic applying itself before the inner experience of a demon can arise. That's how blinds work, of course, and blinds are important when they function that way. However, what a demon is cannot be captured so easily. For now, I'd say that you can visualize yourself in a NESTED hierarchy. Anything that you can circumscribe with your awareness is held within you (and can be evoked), and anything that is beyond your ability to circumscribe cannot be held within. It simply fills you up in rising and falling tides. Such forces...that are beyond your ability to "contain"...would be invoked.
The framework I just gave does not really capture the experience, but it might get us a little closer what's going on beneath the thinky mind.
@@lyamchristopher2393 ok you just blew my mind, was not expecting this.
@@lyamchristopher2393 but i see your point. you can only evoke what you have power over and must invoke what we lack or are unaware of and i guess this what people are referring to when the say “expanding consciousness” or awareness?
51:57 I had an experience. . .
Ok you say changes you don't understand what changes could you mean? I know there is a purpose to keeping quiet but how about if you run into the Cypher Syndrome as I call it, when you find out the new life and changes are such a drag you rather be in the Matrix or your old self? What safeguards are for that?
Would you want make the deal that Cypher made?
@@lyamchristopher2393 he seemed so miserable he even wanted to forget it all! A bit crazy but I guess that is what the character wanted. As for myself I would have to confront such a situation and so far no, I might already be somewhat there but I am of course subjective.
@@dr.strangelove5708 Perhaps we are in his predicament right now. We have made our bargain, opting for no memory of who we really are. And some of us are beginning to see that such bargains don't really work.
@@lyamchristopher2393 Interesting idea I admit, I got an idea for the Cypher Syndrome from a YT video called Cypher Was Right, you can look that up if you wish. The video went into commentary why Cypher could have been right from his perspective about the Matrix and Zion and how that could even be some of us. I think what you are also alluding to is the scene where Neo meets the Architect and finds out he has been there many times before probably making the same mistakes.
This is actually an interesting point. I have thought about it a lot. But I don't think it really holds truth. (Never watched Matrix, I'm referring to the general idea of "going back after enlightenment)
If you see your whole life is a "lie", well, in this magical path, there would be no going back. Try to go back living in the lie and forgetting the truth? Well, how? There's no one to make a pact to to forget, you've already learned it. If you try, well, you will recognise it in yourself you are being foolish.
But going further, the "regret" I or you would think about right now that you would have doesn't actually exist. You won't really have it. It exists at an unenlightened state, but after the veil comes off you will see through even the "entity" which holds the regret you or I think I would have. Meaning the regret won't actually exist. Only if you cling to it, but that's because the state we are right now.
I would say you simply have to trust that yes, the truth on the other side is very "different", but it is liberating. There is no going back, yes, but if we are honest, if there was any going back then this "truth" wouldn't hold much weight.
Things that hold "weight" in life are things you transform you. Making by mistake green tea and not black tea is not an important event, you can go back and make another one. Truly important events are ones that impact you in a way that is not undoable. (Both positively and negatively)
So how do I banish or weak demons? I guess invoking Archangels through SIRP?
Are you asking about how to "weaken" them? They exhaust themselves when you keep them from recycling. Awareness freezes them in their tracks. But of course, if you try to apply awareness as a weapon "against" them, you'll just banish them into a firmer, reinforced position "out there."
@@lyamchristopher2393 can I ask a little more from you going into specifics? A satanist ( Eric Koetting) 2 years ago sent demon Azazel to me obliging him to keep coming here. Even if I send him back with prayers etc., this demon keeps coming in my room everyday. How would you suggest me to employ GD rituals specifically to banish this demon? Maybe I should evoke him in the Triangle and force him to promise to stop coming? Or what else?
@@lyamchristopher2393 what do you mean “stop tgem to recycle”? How do you do this ? You for one demon at one time or for all demons at once?
@@francofiori926 That is a really good question. This is part of the one-taste experience. All demons "taste" the same. They persist off of the feeling of affrontedness. You only need to face down a few demons before you realize they're all pretty much the same. When they arise in your behavior, it is because the sense of affrontedness you feel has been mistaken for something real. Once that happens, its the same as the snake mistaking its tail for a foreign object--and subsequently chasing after it (to eat it or destroy it or fuck it or whatever).
And this means that there is only one true "master demon," the demon of affrontedness. Choronzon. The fear of being snuffed out of existence by something external. That demon is not outside the magic circle. It is you. Lucifer frozen in a lake of ice. Deal with him, and you "destroy" them all.
@@lyamchristopher2393 I am not sure about the part “lbrp and invoking angels will grow demons against you”. I found it’s the opposite; unless they were already angry or sent by some satanist. For example if one has a demon mark or a demonic pact and then start to call angels and go full rhp with gd etc. , THAT can make demons furious. First solve your pacts and issues with demons, then you start invoking Angels and do white magic or Abramithic rituals and religions.
i think i see, tell me if I'm falling for the trap again
it's like someone who isnt an electrician looking at plan for wire network, thinking "this is a tangled mess" and setting up neat pretty wires that don't power anything
or someone reading a book and going "man this narrator sure is unreliable, what if she just rold us whats actually going on" and end up with a book thats worse than original
Kind of. Just remember that the deeper level of understanding is not something we acquire. It's something we uncover. The methods of uncovering, of course, must be acquired and used. Once the uncovering has begun, the methods for uncovering change, but they are still present.
@@lyamchristopher2393 not sure I get the difference between acquiring and uncovering, could you elaborate?
@@disnagburnazog9552 That's simply the idea that you are already enlightened. You exist beneath all of the problems you see sitting on top of you. Unmoved by those problems. Untroubled. Capable of sidestepping all dramas even as the world appears to fall into ruin all around you.
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With all due respect, wouldn’t an intellectual discussion about the topic be an antithesis?
When intellectual discussions occur without an initiate present, yes, that is almost always what happens.
@@lyamchristopher2393 the Goddess just says I have a higher calling 🤷♂️ When Sekhmet is warm with you like Baast it’s hard not to listen.♾💚
Shii that picture felt like me
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That's an interesting phrase. Thanks for sharing. What are you referencing?
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I think this is my favorite lecture of yours, hands down fantastic. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. 🫶
Bud, this is like the third time I've had to put the kibosh on your videos for talking nonsensical boshit. Do better man.
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When were the 1st and 2nd time? 😅
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Do better at what exactly? Perhaps you and him aren't on the same path and do not share the same intentions.
@@FraterDeweyDecimilus Oh, how I love to watch the show. It's so entertaining.
A question, though: what are you expecting to learn here? Your cup seems full.
@@DrDuckDrDuck-jh7ki I'm writing four books current. One of which is an anthropology text that is currently more involved than I had ever previously expected or intended it to be. I'm not watching to learn anything per se. 23 years of daily practice and almost non-stop research and experimentation which has lead me to be one of the best in my age bracket possibly worldwide. At least outside of the folks associated with the various lodges and frats. Technically I'm fairly certain I smoke their boots as well in every category which is usually the case across the board. Probably why I somehow randomly wound up with 30+ students when I never actually intended on teaching. I listen to the Tube here just for background noise really. Just sucks when I have to stop writing to vhange videos because other supposed adepts are aspousing nonsense they should see through. What you probably think I'm referring to almost definitely isn't what I actually am. I'm being pulled away now by the wifey. Finish up here later maybe.