@@soysauce1950 you can use normal balls too, you just wont get the pinpoint accurate spin numbers. The purpose of the dotted balls is purely for spin I believe.
This is definitely peaking my interest. I love how close it is to the quad. Would be a good test to try a different ball and copy the marks to see if it still reads. It would make it even better if I can use my own ball and mark it. Spin can vary ball to ball. Other than that it looks great.
Yeah really curious about outdoor use. I’d say 80% of people cannot/do not have space in their house to make a full swing indoors (especially taller players).
@@Danjr704 Right. If I get this, I would only use it on the range, perhaps on the course on a slow day. There is zero chance I would ever use it indoors.
They already put the R10 against the series 1, and they picked the series one over the R10, so in my eyes this thing blows the R10 out of the water in accuracy
IMO, this is a game changer in the personal launch monitor market considering the features and how accurate it is. For the everyday amateur this is more then sufficient.
Great video guys and I was almost SOLD!!! , although you swore at me with with that word "Subscription".....no one wants to be tied down, even with advance data being provided. But again great gadget to review
I just read on a sim forum that Rapsodo have asked reviewers to hold off doing a review until they get a firmware update pushed out. Perhaps the Golf City crew can advise if this is true - if so have they been given a date for the update?
@@Dazzman07 I think I saw the same post on Reddit today. Guess it'd make sense. Does make me wonder a little if initial feedback was that it needed work. And they're trying to avoid a less than stellar launch.
That's the one Rick. I'm getting concerned by the silence from Golf City and others on TH-cam regarding this device. Hope it's unfounded worry cause I love the look of it and the 'claimed' measures and accuracy by Rapsodo - despite the subscription concerns many people have. I'm kinda glad I decided to hold off ordering one until the hype settled down and the true reviews on actual performance across all parameters are released. Cmon Golf City - give us an update on why the delay of your promised review please 🙏
@@Dazzman07 yep. My hangup was the subscription. Hiding ball data behind a paywall is a little slimy. Makes me think they don't have a lot of confidence in their simulation and other virtual features. So they include spin data as a premium feature to basically force owners to go with the subscription. Ironic thing is, I very likely would have pre-ordered if spin weren't locked behind a paywall. Was just the principle of it. But now with the radio silence, I'm even happier to have held off. Likely best to let the growing pains pass before diving in.
I’m really looking forward to seeing the indoor simulator review. This will give people like me, who want to work on hitting the ball straight, the ability to hit endlessly as many balls as they’d like and actually see the results in real time. Cannot wait!
According to the video on TH-cam from the PGA event this is compatible with e6 and Awesome Golf from launch. This looks an incredible product at the price point.
If the spin rate can read from the ball that we using will be great. Like we can use the marking pen to draw the dots or lines and if the machine can read out from it will be superb.
Thx guys!! I have pre-ordered this. I am setting up an indoor SIM with the Rapsodo.. QUESTION?? About a projector for this unit. Do I really need a HIGH $$$ projector.
It was nailing the 9500rpm spins. I doubt it'll struggle with higher ball speeds. Basically, side spin is the only question left in my mind. Looks like someone finally figured it all out for less than $1k.
Looks like a sharpie can get the job done for the range balls you want to hit. Edited: Maybe need to Extreme Sharpie smear proof marker to protect your screen
Great video! What's the distance you're running from ball to screen? This may work great for me but have space constraints. Looks like you were pretty close to the screen which seems promising!
Excellent review. For me the most important read is shot shape. I can deal with spin and distance being within 10%, but if its showing me hitting a slight push when Quad and trackman show a draw then that's a no go. That was the problem with the Garmin, shot shape was all over the place.
Looking forward to seeing what it does without the special ball. I know it won't be nearly as good - but for the price I only need it to be consistent and "in the ball-park" so I can use it at the range.
How accurate will this thing be at higher driver ball speeds? That's the test for me and ultimately why I went with a Bushnell Launch Pro, with it also doing club path
Wow! I've been waiting for a product from Rapsodo to come out for Android. And here it is! I'm exited and thanks for your review. I want to say the price is around $700 give or take. Their prices are reasonable. Thanks!
I see no reason why a Pro V1 / other brand of ball, marked up identically to the Callaway RPT ball wouldn't pick up spin numbers just as accurately... is this something you guys could test? Also, spin numbers for the RPT ball vs standard balls and whether it picks up spin at all on normal balls would be interesting. Planning my garage golf sim build this year and certainly looking forward to seeing more tests with this device, thanks!
I'm looking to build a practice range/simulator in the backyard before summer but I may wait for this, do you guys have a video on the simulator feature?
This looks awesome. Looking forward to seeing the indoor simulation comparison and battery life. It would be good to know how much the balls will cost and how available they will be. Rapsodo should consider making a ball stencil for colouring in the dots on any ball as well if balls are priced in the RCT range.
Can we see what the shot shape is versus the GC Quad and offline numbers in the next test? Great comparison. If the shot shape is accurate I’m selling my R10.
I have both the MLM 1 and the R10. While the Garmin is great (and sliiiiightly more accurate), rapsodo is so much easier to use. At $700 bucks this is an absolute steal!
Yeh, seems like it. Just from our initial tests it looks like it could be a much better purchase than the R10. But hey, we will put them up against each other for our next test vid!
@Golficity if you can just set and it work it's superior to R10. That amount of leveling and stands and interference from fans and projectors leaves me hesitant purchasing the garmin. Maybe do some tests against interference
When is your next video on the MLM2 Pro coming guys? Please give us an idea - not just 'coming soon'. I get the feeling we are all waiting on tenterhooks - I for one need to see what you honestly think of it and see how it performs before pulling the trigger on one here in Oz. Are u seeing issues with your unit?
As far as marked balls, I have a Uneekor QED and there are vinyl stickers you can buy and stick them on any ball you want. I don't see why this won't be the same. Just use the pattern they tell you and it will read spin without issue. The way this compared to the Quad, I can't see why anyone wouldn't buy it that's looking to get in the sim world for a great price
my only concern is what is the difference in readings for using their ball to the one you normally game? would like to see the difference. the product however looks amazing
You mentioned needing 6 ft behind you but how many feet are required from ball to screen? Would be awesome to get test numbers with "almost golf balls" too if possible, for us that are scared to break windows indoors :p Thank you so much!
I'd say price is about $ 699.00 what I would like to know is that if you need those Rapsodo balls in doors what are the cost for extra ball and if you use it out doors on the range, will the unit still pick up range balls??? Oh one more thing, you can use a I Pad to collect data also Yes...Great video by the way...Thanks...
Thanks for the introduction, this looks amazing. Glad I held off on buying the Garmin. For the indoor use, how much space do you need from ball to the net for it to provide good accurate numbers?
As soon as I saw what rapsodo was bringing out, I was insanely excited to see the comparison between 20k to something like this. Even more excited to see the big tests.
Guys great job with the sneak peek!! New to the channel but have subscribed with all notifications!! QQ - what about analytics on Club Path and Face? Does that come with the premium package - BTW - loved the comment about $15 a month on netflix and $200 a year to play golf whenever I want!!! Thanks for posting and looking very forward to the full review!!!
@@ohwowcreate yeah garmin is 9.99 a month so 120 a year but rapsodo is currently 99.99 a year. Bogus to double it for the mlm2pro. hopefully the it was just a mess up in the video.
Will you be able to do a proper/full review and include regular RCT balls and normal balls in the mix together with specialized Callaway balls. If you also are able to compare it against Garmin R10 would be great. Thanks from Sweden 🇸🇪
In your review can you show the allowable hitting zone one can place your ball in front of the LM and still get accurate readings? I have some buddies who are lefty’s an with my current setup id have to move the R10 each shot to give them space to swing. Also can you putt with it?
I want to invest in a launch monitor that is less than $1,000 CAD and the two best one seems to be the Garmin R10 and the Rapsodo MLM 2 Pro. Is the data accuracy/reliability of the MLM 2 better than the Garrmin because of camera/doppler radar? I will be using the unit mostly on the range outside and in a bakyard net. Thanks, Luc
We’re going to be doing a full simulation test soon but as of right now it does not support putting. Maybe Rapsodo will add that in a future update. 🤷🏼♂️
I'm curious to see how it compares to the garmin R10 at $599. I like the redesign and I like the rapsodo initially. I know you mentioned the special marked balls - do those come with the monitor or extra cost? You can get special marked balls that work with the garmin to improve it's accuracy as well - for extra cost. So maybe the extra $100 is worth it because they are just already including these extras. Wonder if they'll eventually offer a "slim" package of just the monitor without the extras. Bonus too you're getting a $200 subscription free for the first year i guess.
@@Steven-Primrose-Hazel The rapsodo also uses estimated spin when not using their specific golf balls. I'm not trying to bash on the product just trying to get more details out of it. When rapsodo uses their golf balls they designed with the black markings, it makes the spin a lot more accurate. Titlist has a RCT (Radar Capture Technology) golf ball you can buy to improve the accuracy of radar launch monitors indoors, which is the R10, trackman, flightscope, etc. Buying those titlist golf balls with the R10 is the same as rapsodo with these they designed themselves. I used the original MLM from rapsodo and liked some features and didnt like others. A friend has the R10 with the titlist balls and seems to be working well. Trying to dig for more info from these creators to see if it's worth getting the rapsodo.
@@Jord_45 Yes it does.. With software 3.80 and newer it calculates spin using a model that uses measured radar metrics as inputs (when indoors). Outdoors it calculates by measured ball trajectory by radar. The titlist website sells the titlist RCT (radar capture technology) golf ball which has an embedded radar reflective tech to make these launch monitors more accurate.. including spin rate because it uses radar to calculate those measurements. Titlist has even validated their RCT golf balls for indoor environments with the garmin R10..
The backspin compared to GCquad is awesome! But even the Garmin R10 is very close on backspin using the RCT balls. The real game changer will be if sidespin on the MLM2 is close to the GC. If so, it would be a huge step up in simulated shot shape at this entry level price point…. Look forward to seeing those comparison videos!
You can compare spin axis in the shots where they show the GCQuad screen by taking the sideSpin and backSpin values and converting them to spinAxis via spinAxis = 180°/π*atan(sideSpin/backSpin). Aside from one wedge shot all the shots where they displayed the GCQuad screen were extremely close. I was very impressed as I've seen a few tests like this from other launch monitors where they focus on either pure spin or carry distance, but the spin axis values where wildly different. MLM2 seems like a big step forward in this price bracket.
Yeah but the r10 distance hitting into a net is pretty terrible along with their app being buggy and they haven’t fixed a logout in the middle of a session that ruins an experience
I have a net in my garage, not a screen. Do you know if any of these products work with nets? Also, will those “beta” features be updated in March or should we wait until March to purchase? Also, this is hot if the presses. Like, they don’t even have this on their website.
Yeah. This thing looks super promising. I rolled the dice on Swinglogic’s Hybrid X3. Long story short, it’s a great unit. But with one HUGE caveat. Currently the nano sensor does not give reliable readings (i.e. it misses shots all the time). When you do get data, it’s great. But that’s maybe only 2 out of 10 shots currently. Good news is Swinglogic has accepted this flaw and will be dropping an upgraded nano around March. And sounds like they’ll do an exchange for a small fee. So, while I’m cautiously optimistic the X3 will prove to be worth it. I have been looking at alternatives. Was contemplating a Gc3/BLP. But this Rapsodo just jumped to the top of my list.
@@krusher74 Agreed. Ball speed and club speed are right on par with the best of them. But it's hard to get the radar component wrong. As for the nano sensor component. Long story short, they went to market with a "lesser" chip set (due to shortages). Supply has now come around and the originally intended chip set will be built into an upgraded nano. In the interim they've tried to do their best via firmware. But, for me, the readings actually got less reliable. Original firmware I was getting, at worst, 9/10 readings. Definitely a bummer. But nice that us early adopters aren't SOL. And will benefit just as much as those buying new once the improved nano drops in the next month or so. They've been great on the service side, have been super transparent, and are eager to make it right. I'm cautiously optimistic. If the new nano delivers on the reading front, it'll be an outstanding value. Because when it does read, the data is pretty impressive.
Thanks for the review. Regarding spin number, will it capture side spin RPM. Also, will it show push/pull degree? I need to work on swing path and club face angle at impact. Thx
How precise do you need to be with setup? Would this be feasible to setup behind you on the course and record your round, or do you have to be pretty precise with where the LM is located in relation to the ball?
Guys, can you do a mlm2pro vs Garmin r10 comparison. I’m hearing that you need to the mlm premium subscription to keep certain benefits. I’m looking to better understand the total value of r10 car mlm2 pro. Thanks!
@@Golficity please do. It’s between these two and it would be great to get your expert take on the TCO of each, comparing units but also comparing subscriptions, etc. it’s needed. A lot of my friends are thinking the same thing and I’ve sent everyone to your channel to see the first review you did. It’s a great channel thanks!
This is going to really change the space, price point is making a mockery of the others, 30,000 courses, accurate data.
Just wow!
The spin accuracy in comparison is really good! $699.00 is a steal!
The spin accuracy in comparison to the GC Quad is insanely good. At it's price point, this thing looks untouchable. Crazy good.
It’s only a good deal if you can use normal balls too
@@soysauce1950 you can use normal balls too, you just wont get the pinpoint accurate spin numbers. The purpose of the dotted balls is purely for spin I believe.
@@ryanwiegel so it will still capture spin even with a normal ball
Can you use it on the driving range?
Is it kind of a New Era with low retail prices for reliable launch monitors?
This is definitely peaking my interest. I love how close it is to the quad. Would be a good test to try a different ball and copy the marks to see if it still reads. It would make it even better if I can use my own ball and mark it. Spin can vary ball to ball. Other than that it looks great.
I would love to see this as well
Looking forward to a review outdoors using just standard range balls and a break down of standard features vs the premium ones.
Range balls and real balls if used on course.
@@catman1050 yes; looking for outdoor, range use
Radar based units work great outdoors so that should be money
Yeah really curious about outdoor use. I’d say 80% of people cannot/do not have space in their house to make a full swing indoors (especially taller players).
@@Danjr704 Right. If I get this, I would only use it on the range, perhaps on the course on a slow day. There is zero chance I would ever use it indoors.
I'd love to see this head to head with the Garmin R10 as they're roughly the same price. The R10 is fantastic!
so would I :)
Coming soon 😎
They already put the R10 against the series 1, and they picked the series one over the R10, so in my eyes this thing blows the R10 out of the water in accuracy
I've seen the video of the R10 against gc quad and it wasn't very good. All I remember is it kept me from buying the R10.
@@hellraiser7118 R10 has improved a lot since then. RCT balls, algorithm fix, etc.
IMO, this is a game changer in the personal launch monitor market considering the features and how accurate it is. For the everyday amateur this is more then sufficient.
I think most amateurs need club path and face
Great video guys and I was almost SOLD!!! , although you swore at me with with that word "Subscription".....no one wants to be tied down, even with advance data being provided. But again great gadget to review
Been checking back daily for 3 weeks, waiting on the next MLM 2 video. Get to it, lol!
I just read on a sim forum that Rapsodo have asked reviewers to hold off doing a review until they get a firmware update pushed out. Perhaps the Golf City crew can advise if this is true - if so have they been given a date for the update?
@@Dazzman07 I think I saw the same post on Reddit today. Guess it'd make sense. Does make me wonder a little if initial feedback was that it needed work. And they're trying to avoid a less than stellar launch.
That's the one Rick. I'm getting concerned by the silence from Golf City and others on TH-cam regarding this device. Hope it's unfounded worry cause I love the look of it and the 'claimed' measures and accuracy by Rapsodo - despite the subscription concerns many people have. I'm kinda glad I decided to hold off ordering one until the hype settled down and the true reviews on actual performance across all parameters are released. Cmon Golf City - give us an update on why the delay of your promised review please 🙏
@@Dazzman07 yep. My hangup was the subscription. Hiding ball data behind a paywall is a little slimy. Makes me think they don't have a lot of confidence in their simulation and other virtual features. So they include spin data as a premium feature to basically force owners to go with the subscription. Ironic thing is, I very likely would have pre-ordered if spin weren't locked behind a paywall. Was just the principle of it.
But now with the radio silence, I'm even happier to have held off. Likely best to let the growing pains pass before diving in.
I’m really looking forward to seeing the indoor simulator review. This will give people like me, who want to work on hitting the ball straight, the ability to hit endlessly as many balls as they’d like and actually see the results in real time. Cannot wait!
That one is coming soon!
@@Golficity before February 1st?
Amazing job by Rapsodo coming out with a MLM that can accurately capture spin and actually be affordable.
I am so excited for this! Android YES. Those spin number are spot on! Can't wait for the full video!! DO I HEAR Giveaway lol
According to the video on TH-cam from the PGA event this is compatible with e6 and Awesome Golf from launch. This looks an incredible product at the price point.
I'm sold. Can't wait!
Darn, just bought a unit. Knew I was going to regret, welcome to my life.
I saw on their twitter that they are working on a trade in option
Holy crap. Game changer. I’ll be getting one
Update, I preordered it. Super excited. First sim ever.
GSPro compatibility and I’m in! Let’s go!
If the spin rate can read from the ball that we using will be great. Like we can use the marking pen to draw the dots or lines and if the machine can read out from it will be superb.
Got me pre-order in. Thank you for the video.
Can you guys talk about setting up the unit indoors? Calibration and distance needed from ball to net?
I would be interested in that as well.
Guy this looks awesome 👍🏻 I can't wait for more videos to drop
Thanks!!
Thx guys!! I have pre-ordered this. I am setting up an indoor SIM with the Rapsodo.. QUESTION?? About a projector for this unit. Do I really need a HIGH $$$ projector.
Great initial review and comparison! Very impressive spin numbers vs. GCQ.
Love to see it with higher ball speeds and club head speed I bet the spin accuracy will change
But I was about to splash on a gc3 and may wait now
It was nailing the 9500rpm spins. I doubt it'll struggle with higher ball speeds. Basically, side spin is the only question left in my mind. Looks like someone finally figured it all out for less than $1k.
your not getting any swing path or face angle with this
Just pre ordered mine 5 mins after I was able to . Almost got the Garmin and then I seen this little baby. Please be great fingers crossed 🤞
i wonder how accurate are the spin numbers without the dotted ball.
This….this…..this…. THE use case for me is bringing a unit with me to an outdoor range, where I can’t use the special Cally ball.
Bet it doesn’t even read without them
I was wondering the same
I was told at the PGA Show that it does not read spin without the dotted ball.
Looks like a sharpie can get the job done for the range balls you want to hit. Edited: Maybe need to Extreme Sharpie smear proof marker to protect your screen
Looking forward to comparing spin axis readouts, especially using unmarked balls.
600 dollars
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Great video! What's the distance you're running from ball to screen? This may work great for me but have space constraints. Looks like you were pretty close to the screen which seems promising!
Excellent review. For me the most important read is shot shape. I can deal with spin and distance being within 10%, but if its showing me hitting a slight push when Quad and trackman show a draw then that's a no go. That was the problem with the Garmin, shot shape was all over the place.
We’re definitely going to do some short shape tests for this device soon. Thanks!
Looking forward to seeing what it does without the special ball. I know it won't be nearly as good - but for the price I only need it to be consistent and "in the ball-park" so I can use it at the range.
Solid stuff guys! Really good review. Love what y'all do. Might have to cop one of these for the channel!
How accurate will this thing be at higher driver ball speeds? That's the test for me and ultimately why I went with a Bushnell Launch Pro, with it also doing club path
Yeah, curious about this too. I owned a mevo+ and needed lots of room for driver ball speeds around 165-170.
Wow! I've been waiting for a product from Rapsodo to come out for Android. And here it is! I'm exited and thanks for your review. I want to say the price is around $700 give or take. Their prices are reasonable. Thanks!
Thank you. A lot more vids on this product coming!
Great spin numbers of course it’s all about carry and left right dispersions
Does this track putting? I think the R10 doesn't, which is a drag
Interested in the answer to this question as well!
Nice review. Thank you guys. Will get one.
I see no reason why a Pro V1 / other brand of ball, marked up identically to the Callaway RPT ball wouldn't pick up spin numbers just as accurately... is this something you guys could test? Also, spin numbers for the RPT ball vs standard balls and whether it picks up spin at all on normal balls would be interesting. Planning my garage golf sim build this year and certainly looking forward to seeing more tests with this device, thanks!
Love the faux brick!
This makes me want to finally start a golf sim in my shed. I can finally spend less that 3k and get a good decent setup
I'm looking to build a practice range/simulator in the backyard before summer but I may wait for this, do you guys have a video on the simulator feature?
Can you please test this simulator and post the video before February 1st presale?
Super results and very impressed
This looks awesome. Looking forward to seeing the indoor simulation comparison and battery life. It would be good to know how much the balls will cost and how available they will be. Rapsodo should consider making a ball stencil for colouring in the dots on any ball as well if balls are priced in the RCT range.
That might not be happening since its a great way to print money.
But maybe a ball stencil could be 3d printed by the community.
Great infomercial boys
Can we see what the shot shape is versus the GC Quad and offline numbers in the next test? Great comparison. If the shot shape is accurate I’m selling my R10.
Gotcha - coming soon!
Me too. If the club path and shot shape is equal I'm selling asap
Great review. I'm sold.
Get us that juicy preorder discount! I'll definitely be buying one, thanks for the testing and great first preview of this unit
I have both the MLM 1 and the R10. While the Garmin is great (and sliiiiightly more accurate), rapsodo is so much easier to use. At $700 bucks this is an absolute steal!
Yeh, seems like it. Just from our initial tests it looks like it could be a much better purchase than the R10. But hey, we will put them up against each other for our next test vid!
@Golficity if you can just set and it work it's superior to R10. That amount of leveling and stands and interference from fans and projectors leaves me hesitant purchasing the garmin. Maybe do some tests against interference
@@Golficity any idea when you’re releasing that video? I’m really on the fence of getting an r10 now after hearing about this thing.
This is amazing. Looking for a trade in program to send in my old MLM
This could smash the R10 out the market.
will be super-duper if this can pair up with awesome golf!
When is your next video on the MLM2 Pro coming guys? Please give us an idea - not just 'coming soon'. I get the feeling we are all waiting on tenterhooks - I for one need to see what you honestly think of it and see how it performs before pulling the trigger on one here in Oz. Are u seeing issues with your unit?
Wow, spin results were definitely surprising. Looking back, all of the metrics were very close.
As far as marked balls, I have a Uneekor QED and there are vinyl stickers you can buy and stick them on any ball you want. I don't see why this won't be the same. Just use the pattern they tell you and it will read spin without issue. The way this compared to the Quad, I can't see why anyone wouldn't buy it that's looking to get in the sim world for a great price
Pre-ordered mine this morning 😁
Let us know your thoughts when you fire it up!!!!!
my only concern is what is the difference in readings for using their ball to the one you normally game? would like to see the difference. the product however looks amazing
This thing looks the goods cant wait for more content on it.
This thing looks awesome
wow, very impressive. i didn't like the mlm1 but will definitely get one of these!
You mentioned needing 6 ft behind you but how many feet are required from ball to screen? Would be awesome to get test numbers with "almost golf balls" too if possible, for us that are scared to break windows indoors :p Thank you so much!
Think their rep at the PGA show said 8 feet of flight.
I'd say price is about $ 699.00 what I would like to know is that if you need those Rapsodo balls in doors what are the cost for extra ball and if you use it out doors on the range, will the unit still pick up range balls??? Oh one more thing, you can use a I Pad to collect data also Yes...Great video by the way...Thanks...
Thanks for the introduction, this looks amazing. Glad I held off on buying the Garmin. For the indoor use, how much space do you need from ball to the net for it to provide good accurate numbers?
8 feet in front + 6-7 feet behind. 14-15 feet from the net to the Rapsodo behind you - with the ball basically in the middle of that space.
When is your full trackman comparison happening? Or GC quad
Yeah, we need to see outdoor numbers. Looks great though.
As soon as I saw what rapsodo was bringing out, I was insanely excited to see the comparison between 20k to something like this. Even more excited to see the big tests.
the info i really want is club path, face angle, angle of attack and launch angle to monitor and improve my swing, 20k has it , 699 nope.
@@krusher74 100% I agree. No club path and face. No go
Guys great job with the sneak peek!! New to the channel but have subscribed with all notifications!! QQ - what about analytics on Club Path and Face? Does that come with the premium package - BTW - loved the comment about $15 a month on netflix and $200 a year to play golf whenever I want!!! Thanks for posting and looking very forward to the full review!!!
Hi and thank you. Did you tested with a normal golf ball outdoor?
It would be really cool to see the MLM use case when practicing 20 to 60 yard pitch shots.
$200 a year is nuts. I was hooked till that number. They can buzz off at that price
yeah. 200 is a little crazy...would be nice at like...100 or less
Saved me time watching lol thanks
@@ohwowcreate yeah garmin is 9.99 a month so 120 a year but rapsodo is currently 99.99 a year. Bogus to double it for the mlm2pro. hopefully the it was just a mess up in the video.
For the target market of a serious golfer, that price is really nothing. Easily could spend that at the range with no tech feedback
Wouldn’t be bad if they charged a monthly fee like Garmin. $199 in one hit is a deal breaker.
Will you be able to do a proper/full review and include regular RCT balls and normal balls in the mix together with specialized Callaway balls.
If you also are able to compare it against Garmin R10 would be great.
Thanks from Sweden 🇸🇪
For indoor use, could you compare Rapsodo's RPT Ball vs. Titleist ProV1 RCT.
Will the golf sim that’s included be capable of multi player? This is a must!
In your review can you show the allowable hitting zone one can place your ball in front of the LM and still get accurate readings? I have some buddies who are lefty’s an with my current setup id have to move the R10 each shot to give them space to swing. Also can you putt with it?
@golfcity - I'm following this comment to find out if putting is supported. Looking forward to your reply.
Can you put the same dots with marker on your own ball you play and get the same results?
I want to invest in a launch monitor that is less than $1,000 CAD and the two best one seems to be the Garmin R10 and the Rapsodo MLM 2 Pro. Is the data accuracy/reliability of the MLM 2 better than the Garrmin because of camera/doppler radar? I will be using the unit mostly on the range outside and in a bakyard net. Thanks, Luc
Love it guys. Great stuff as always.
I'd like to see this compared to the Garmin Approach R10.
Great content!
Sold! Sign me up!
Looks fantastic. Did I see a usb c connport in the back. Does it send out its own wifi single to connect or do you have to use phone blue tooth.
Great info! Curios when it comes to simulation how the putting works or if it is just auto putting for you.
We’re going to be doing a full simulation test soon but as of right now it does not support putting. Maybe Rapsodo will add that in a future update. 🤷🏼♂️
Does it track putts?
Outdoor test with range balls. Curious how that aspect works.
Man what a great time for golf tech.
I'm curious to see how it compares to the garmin R10 at $599. I like the redesign and I like the rapsodo initially. I know you mentioned the special marked balls - do those come with the monitor or extra cost? You can get special marked balls that work with the garmin to improve it's accuracy as well - for extra cost. So maybe the extra $100 is worth it because they are just already including these extras. Wonder if they'll eventually offer a "slim" package of just the monitor without the extras. Bonus too you're getting a $200 subscription free for the first year i guess.
Three balls should be included.
R10 only has estimated spin so this is way better.
@@Steven-Primrose-Hazel The rapsodo also uses estimated spin when not using their specific golf balls. I'm not trying to bash on the product just trying to get more details out of it. When rapsodo uses their golf balls they designed with the black markings, it makes the spin a lot more accurate. Titlist has a RCT (Radar Capture Technology) golf ball you can buy to improve the accuracy of radar launch monitors indoors, which is the R10, trackman, flightscope, etc. Buying those titlist golf balls with the R10 is the same as rapsodo with these they designed themselves. I used the original MLM from rapsodo and liked some features and didnt like others. A friend has the R10 with the titlist balls and seems to be working well. Trying to dig for more info from these creators to see if it's worth getting the rapsodo.
The r10 doesn’t measure spin, so it wouldn’t matter what ball you use. It calculates spin based on other metrics.
@@Jord_45 Yes it does.. With software 3.80 and newer it calculates spin using a model that uses measured radar metrics as inputs (when indoors). Outdoors it calculates by measured ball trajectory by radar. The titlist website sells the titlist RCT (radar capture technology) golf ball which has an embedded radar reflective tech to make these launch monitors more accurate.. including spin rate because it uses radar to calculate those measurements. Titlist has even validated their RCT golf balls for indoor environments with the garmin R10..
Great video! Really excited to see more tests on overall accuracy
The backspin compared to GCquad is awesome! But even the Garmin R10 is very close on backspin using the RCT balls.
The real game changer will be if sidespin on the MLM2 is close to the GC. If so, it would be a huge step up in simulated shot shape at this entry level price point…. Look forward to seeing those comparison videos!
You can compare spin axis in the shots where they show the GCQuad screen by taking the sideSpin and backSpin values and converting them to spinAxis via spinAxis = 180°/π*atan(sideSpin/backSpin). Aside from one wedge shot all the shots where they displayed the GCQuad screen were extremely close. I was very impressed as I've seen a few tests like this from other launch monitors where they focus on either pure spin or carry distance, but the spin axis values where wildly different. MLM2 seems like a big step forward in this price bracket.
Yeah but the r10 distance hitting into a net is pretty terrible along with their app being buggy and they haven’t fixed a logout in the middle of a session that ruins an experience
I have a net in my garage, not a screen. Do you know if any of these products work with nets?
Also, will those “beta” features be updated in March or should we wait until March to purchase?
Also, this is hot if the presses. Like, they don’t even have this on their website.
Great news! How would this compare to mevo plus precision and data? And for all of us overseas, would this work in every country?
Faaaaariggin GAME CHANGER!!!!!!!!!! $700 initial purchase price then $200 annually for this level of accuracy, yes!
when you use a projected video on the white screen that may effects the data, as with others?
Yeah. This thing looks super promising.
I rolled the dice on Swinglogic’s Hybrid X3. Long story short, it’s a great unit. But with one HUGE caveat. Currently the nano sensor does not give reliable readings (i.e. it misses shots all the time). When you do get data, it’s great. But that’s maybe only 2 out of 10 shots currently.
Good news is Swinglogic has accepted this flaw and will be dropping an upgraded nano around March. And sounds like they’ll do an exchange for a small fee.
So, while I’m cautiously optimistic the X3 will prove to be worth it. I have been looking at alternatives. Was contemplating a Gc3/BLP. But this Rapsodo just jumped to the top of my list.
2 out of 10! thats terrible.
@@krusher74 Agreed. Ball speed and club speed are right on par with the best of them. But it's hard to get the radar component wrong.
As for the nano sensor component. Long story short, they went to market with a "lesser" chip set (due to shortages). Supply has now come around and the originally intended chip set will be built into an upgraded nano.
In the interim they've tried to do their best via firmware. But, for me, the readings actually got less reliable. Original firmware I was getting, at worst, 9/10 readings.
Definitely a bummer. But nice that us early adopters aren't SOL. And will benefit just as much as those buying new once the improved nano drops in the next month or so. They've been great on the service side, have been super transparent, and are eager to make it right.
I'm cautiously optimistic. If the new nano delivers on the reading front, it'll be an outstanding value. Because when it does read, the data is pretty impressive.
Come on guys!!! Shoot the comparison videoooooo.
Fantastic
Good review boys. This looks so promising.
Thanks for the review. Regarding spin number, will it capture side spin RPM. Also, will it show push/pull degree? I need to work on swing path and club face angle at impact. Thx
It MLM2 captures both spin AND spin axis!
What clearance between hitting point to net is needed? I shank hence why this is important!
Great video guys!
How precise do you need to be with setup? Would this be feasible to setup behind you on the course and record your round, or do you have to be pretty precise with where the LM is located in relation to the ball?
Guys, can you do a mlm2pro vs Garmin r10 comparison. I’m hearing that you need to the mlm premium subscription to keep certain benefits. I’m looking to better understand the total value of r10 car mlm2 pro. Thanks!
We plan to shoot that video next
@@Golficity please do. It’s between these two and it would be great to get your expert take on the TCO of each, comparing units but also comparing subscriptions, etc. it’s needed. A lot of my friends are thinking the same thing and I’ve sent everyone to your channel to see the first review you did. It’s a great channel thanks!