I was racked back watching the cloud shadows and thinking what a great screen saver this would make till that blasted train honked and woke me up! Great shot of smoke signals or fireballs, whatever at the time. Beautiful country and nice video. A-PLUS!
Thanks. It is very peaceful up there. You can hear them coming up or down the line, especially when older ge's are the power. Echo's off the cliffs on both sides of the hudson. Same can be said for the GE P32's that Metro North and Amtrak use across the hudson.
Not worried about the "fuel cars" behind the train, if it was fuel there would be buffer cars behind it, and none of the cars had any hazmat cards displayed so whatever oil is actually in them isn't as bad as it may first seem. However, no surprise CSX "How tomorrow moves, because today we're a little burned out."
Actually, I *like* the long take you shot...quite bucolic out there, and the slow pace reinforces that feeling (and, in fact,makes the appearance of that fiery second loco all the more startling). Good going!
Judging by the black smoke, I'd say the engine is starving for air,causing excessive fuel to be burned in the exhaust. This is probably caused by turbocharger failure.
I could imagine a little kid seeing this at a distance and saying, "Look Daddy, a Choo-Choo!"...Only a modern-day "choo-choo" means some expensive down-time!
Looks like major-overhaul time for 7827. Last time I saw flame like that coming off a locomotive, it was because the turbocharger cooked a bearing and blew out, as I found out later from the engineer.
I've seen locomotives on fire before and I've also heard and seen the crews tell the dispatcher that they were stopping to call the local fire department too.
Thank you for sharing< I think what you saw that day was a blowen trubo charger. I've seen the same thing on other videos where they said that was it. I 've even seen it while going down the highways that follow the tracks. Very cool to see. Jeffrey
Camera was clamped to a tripod 10 feet from my truck. I was standing in the bed of my f150 with my dslr. I had to get down, run to the tripod, loosen it and then pan it around.
Relax kids...not really on fire exactly, just working hard and igniting all the combustion residue in the collector and stack. #2 seemed to be overfueling, so it was probably pretty wet in there. Not really a problem as long as it stays confined to the stack, and goes out once the EGT drops to a normal level. Terribly inefficient though.
Another American story that you wouldn't believe unless you saw it with your own eyes. Looks like the exhaust is coked up with something and the intense heat is igniting it. It doesn't help that the trailing wagons right behind it are fuel transporters either. Anyone watching, skip to about 03.09 to where the action starts, why a 3 minute introduction to the countryside?
Saw this happen to a GE today. Turbo failure. Our FD was called to extinguish it, but the CSX mechanic out of Jacksonville we were on the phone with said to either sit back and wait until the turbo let loose or the motor tied up from burning through all of the engine oil, or we could put foam on the intake and choke it that way. We let it fail. Lots of smoke and oil spewing out. Cool but expensive. CSX can afford the repair though I'm sure.
The beginning is kind of cool though. Sounds like CSX needs to spend some money on maintenance of their rolling stock. Lots of flat spots on the wheels, not to mention the dragon loco.
AWESOME.This video has class. If you know what to look for.First,you got the enchanting sounds of nature. The view is spectacular. Notice, the passing clouds like God's aerial cloud train.Then, the transition from natural to man's Iron Horse. She makes her entrance with an unexpected surprise. Lovely consist and horn compliments the serentiy. Slowly, she exits into the mountains, And the unatural becaome natural again. Great Video.
@Shirehorse148 I understand that about purging but most of the time when you take a loaded hazardous car to a customer. Say it has a "Flammable 3" placard. It will not be purged and cleaned. It will be picked up by the railroad and logged as an empty but still have the placard cause it still has residue. They will not always have permanent markings on the side of the tank. Just the placard signs on each side and the ends of the car. It could still be purged and cleaned in the future.
certainly loved listening to birds for the first 3 fckn minutes. We don't have those here in Ontario!!! And the last minute watching freight cars. WOOHOO!!!. This should have been a 40 sec. clip.
kjm, Thanks for the kind words. Freeamerica. I uploaded this years ago straight out of my little flip pocket camera. I had no idea how the editing software worked and youtube didn't have the editor program available then and since its been up so long its not able to edited by youtube's editor, I tried already. Does it suck that there is so much wasted time, yea it does. But like I said in my original comments when i uploaded it. I thought they train was not far away, as it turned out,it was
I guess the only real fire danger is from 1) Brush or leaves that come too close to flames, 2) sparks flying off the engine and setting brush or leaves on fire, 3) sparks somehow setting off any oil residue on the cars immediately following. While some of that is possible, none of it is terribly likely, I imagine.
We have GE`s here in New Zealand, our engineers used to have competitions to see who could get the highest flame, I have seen flames about 2 ft above the loco, just a normal thing with GE`s
They weren't carrying any flammable liquids, as there are no placards, and you generally don't put Haz-Mat cars next to the locomotives. The tanks WILL vent gases if the temperature of the car rises to relieve pressure, and the vented gases CAN ignite. If the top of the tank is exposed to fire long enough, and the relief valve cannot vent the gases fast enough, the car WILL BLEVE. (Boiling Liquid, Expanding Vapor Explosion) There are several TH-cam videos of this happening.
It's just a typical blown turbo or blown supercharger. Quantities of engine oil are getting into the hot exhaust manifold and igniting there, giving an abundance of soot and flames out the exhaust stack. If left that way it will eventually consume all the lube oil and destroy the motor, but these units have such an incredibly large oil reservoir that they often reach their destinations before the problem is even noticed.
its a typical ge turbocharger issue , they are junk locomotives so they all do it at one time or another , hell even emd locomotives do it , nothing thats hurting anything usually an oil seal on the turbo or bad injector setup that causes it
@2005GLI i remember back in 2005 when NS train 25Z had a ex Conrail C39-8 that was low on engine oil. the unit kept shutting it self down, but the crew kept restarting it. it went by, and flames were shooting out of the exhaust stack! man, the flames lit up the night.
Just a little turbo issue. Quite common & they always make for a good show even more so at night. It'll eventually trip the turbo pump alarm & shut down.
What's with all these people thinking they know how locomotives work? a lot of people saying incorrect stuff about the engine and the fire probably don't even know this is a GE engine.
Well, what part of the engine on #7817 proved bad when they decoupled her from Train Q409-17 at the next yard? A failed exhaust-side seal on the turbosupercharger center bearing will throw flames out the exhaust but not run the engine away, unlike failed piston rings.
thanks. And I agree on the wasted time. But the video was uploaded to far back for youtube's own video editor and im not deleting it to remove the wasted space.
Ok, so judging by all the comments, and also my lack of knowledge about trains, and how they operate, this was most likely caused by a defective turbocharger? And that is not exactly a catastrophic event?
3:38 *sniff sniff* do you smell something? Or is it just me? -conducter It's just you - train driver HOLY SHIT - train driver What -conducter We're on fire -driver
I had to watch it to see what you meant. No, no chips being eaten. Most likely the broken tree branches and twigs that scatter the area. There are a few large tree's to the camera's left that I was parked under. The video camera was on a tripod and I had been walking around with the dslr snapping pics.
In like the first 3 minutes. Great scenery, nice breeze, birds and insects chirping. Very peaceful!
As much as I love a good train, there's nothing like the sound of spring peepers!
Never mind that the train is on fire, we have a schedule to keep.
Probably couldn’t see it from the cab and might have had a problem in the alert system
Lol Lmao 😅😅😅😅😅😅
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol
2:38
Csx: Csx train is comming with fire
Clouds: imma head out
I build these (EMD-GE) for a living..I seen seals blow oil and when they do it makes a mess..and they make some good camp fires
***** Mmmmmmmmm sounds like a wonderful camping trip if you ask me.
Seeing as how you pretty much said you build BOTH EMD and GE engines, I don't buy it...
I hope you are with GE and not progressive.
joshmeister4449 sinking feeling he may be progessive employee.
vid starts at 3:00
Thx
The first 3 mins was completely boring so was the last 1 1/2 mins
Wow, that's one of the more impressive GE's doing the dragon impersonation I've seen.
I was racked back watching the cloud shadows and thinking what a great screen saver this would make till that blasted train honked and woke me up! Great shot of smoke signals or fireballs, whatever at the time. Beautiful country and nice video. A-PLUS!
Thanks. It is very peaceful up there. You can hear them coming up or down the line, especially when older ge's are the power. Echo's off the cliffs on both sides of the hudson. Same can be said for the GE P32's that Metro North and Amtrak use across the hudson.
Love the sound of the spring peepers.
Not worried about the "fuel cars" behind the train, if it was fuel there would be buffer cars behind it, and none of the cars had any hazmat cards displayed so whatever oil is actually in them isn't as bad as it may first seem. However, no surprise CSX
"How tomorrow moves, because today we're a little burned out."
This is why I like Steam engines, And a time with Strong engineering. Its sad that Steam Train Jesus died for these >.>
u said fuel cars wrong it should be tankers and its called rolling stock
Oh a railway who splits hairs because I didn't use the appropriate term, big surprise. Notice the quotations around fuel cars?
+Chappel Chastain If you are going to correct someone, at least do it correctly. They are not tankers, they are tank cars. Tankers are ships.
ok but were I come from we call them tankers and I work for csx so how about u shut up
You're welcome I used to live at at a northeast pa apt complex with csx freight trains going by all the time so yeah it's cool
Oh that Darn turbo I remember seeing this video a long time and would watch it over and over again!!
Actually, I *like* the long take you shot...quite bucolic out there, and the slow pace reinforces that feeling (and, in fact,makes the appearance of that fiery second loco all the more startling). Good going!
Judging by the black smoke, I'd say the engine is starving for air,causing excessive fuel to be burned in the exhaust. This is probably caused by turbocharger failure.
liberty2014 damn GE no good like always
George Boyd Wow! So, the fuel failed in the locomotive?
liberty2014 Oh. I see. Not well with knowing diesels.
Blown turbo is the issue when this happens. George Boyd got it right.
The turbocharger has probody not been service correctly and has lead to the fire
beautiful countryside
I could imagine a little kid seeing this at a distance and saying, "Look Daddy, a Choo-Choo!"...Only a modern-day "choo-choo" means some expensive down-time!
First two and a half minutes are riveting.
The intro is long, but I like hearing the Spring Peepers. Thanx for including the story behind catching this one in the description section.
Thanks. Was made long time ago before I knew any editing.
@@2005GLI still a good video. YT recommended it to me today.
@@squibrail4014 that's awesome!
A burning locomotive with a ton of tankers behind it. LOL
+Garrett's Trainz Studios! kaboom..... KABOOM KABOOM KABOOM KABOOM KABOOM KABOOM
+Connor Waits ikr
Hate to disappoint, but the lack of UN placards tells me that they are empty XPPP
lol
technically it's the vapor that burns, not the liquid, no?
Looks like major-overhaul time for 7827. Last time I saw flame like that coming off a locomotive, it was because the turbocharger cooked a bearing and blew out, as I found out later from the engineer.
I loved that the beginning was nothing but peace and quiet (and tree frogs). Then the flaming train comes rolling through . . . X-D
I've seen locomotives on fire before and I've also heard and seen the crews tell the dispatcher that they were stopping to call the local fire department too.
2:36 the train is first spotted.
3:14 the first flame can be seen.
3:55 the last time you see flames.
Love the happy toots of the horn as he rolls by... lol
Thank you for sharing< I think what you saw that day was a blowen trubo charger. I've seen the same thing on other videos where they said that was it. I 've even seen it while going down the highways that follow the tracks. Very cool to see. Jeffrey
More like skip to 3:00
great catch of a GE toaster at Iona Island. 100% authentic. Nothing to worry about until the paint catches fire.
I think that the biggest fail here is the fact that the engineer isn't sitting up top making smores.
Sarra Smith yv
😂😂😂😂🤣
Fast forward to 2:30 to get past the boring part.
thank you for the quick response in turning the cam
Camera was clamped to a tripod 10 feet from my truck. I was standing in the bed of my f150 with my dslr. I had to get down, run to the tripod, loosen it and then pan it around.
did you try to warn the engineer that his 2nd engine was on fire?
I BET NOT THE ENGINE DRIVER DIDN;T EVEN CARE 2ND ENGINE WAS ON FIRE
+Harold Smith ya he did care trains take a mile sometimes a little more to stop
Relax kids...not really on fire exactly, just working hard and igniting all the combustion residue in the collector and stack. #2 seemed to be overfueling, so it was probably pretty wet in there. Not really a problem as long as it stays confined to the stack, and goes out once the EGT drops to a normal level. Terribly inefficient though.
PascackValleyRailfan 2:36 the light appears
Holy crap! CSX at it's best! Cool crew, crappy GE's! Awesome video and catch!
This train is on FIYAHHHHH!!!.
Another American story that you wouldn't believe unless you saw it with your own eyes. Looks like the exhaust is coked up with something and the intense heat is igniting it. It doesn't help that the trailing wagons right behind it are fuel transporters either. Anyone watching, skip to about 03.09 to where the action starts, why a 3 minute introduction to the countryside?
Long train, making good time considering.
Saw this happen to a GE today. Turbo failure. Our FD was called to extinguish it, but the CSX mechanic out of Jacksonville we were on the phone with said to either sit back and wait until the turbo let loose or the motor tied up from burning through all of the engine oil, or we could put foam on the intake and choke it that way. We let it fail. Lots of smoke and oil spewing out. Cool but expensive. CSX can afford the repair though I'm sure.
The beginning is kind of cool though. Sounds like CSX needs to spend some money on maintenance of their rolling stock. Lots of flat spots on the wheels, not to mention the dragon loco.
Wow great catch! i really enjoyed listening to the peepers in the beginning of the video!
AWESOME.This video has class. If you know what to look for.First,you got the enchanting sounds of nature. The view is spectacular. Notice, the passing clouds like God's aerial cloud train.Then, the transition from natural to man's Iron Horse. She makes her entrance with an unexpected surprise. Lovely consist and horn compliments the serentiy. Slowly, she exits into the mountains, And the unatural becaome natural again. Great Video.
I've always loved the anticipation of this video. It's so peaceful and serene.
it's nice to see US still has so much mixed freight to go by rail!
I thought it was very nice spring peepers fluffy clouds a nice day yeah keep up the good work man
Thanks for the nice compliment!
LOOOOOONG INTRODUCTION! Why such a long boring lead in? Skip to at least 2:30 for the train to come around the bend or 3:10 for the flames to appear.
I was expecting a helper engine in the end after all that. Just one engine could tow all that? Amazeballs
GE "We bring good things to life!"
@Shirehorse148
I understand that about purging but most of the time when you take a loaded hazardous car to a customer. Say it has a "Flammable 3" placard. It will not be purged and cleaned. It will be picked up by the railroad and logged as an empty but still have the placard cause it still has residue.
They will not always have permanent markings on the side of the tank. Just the placard signs on each side and the ends of the car. It could still be purged and cleaned in the future.
CSX.... We move tomorrow because we didn't move today.
LOL i love that
Thanks! A guy at NRHS railcamp made it up!
NP
I hope your not trying to make fun of CSX, still though that's pretty good
LOL!
Rolling coal? That's cute...
Ahhahahaha X'D
Why 3 minutes of nothing in the beginning??? This is as bad as repeating the vid within the vid.
Did you read the description?
+PascackValleyRailfan so cool to see something !Ike that
Cool to see your a bigot
P Anon
hogy vagy a
Good postcard shot in the beginning though!
Skip to 3:40 to see the real fireworks begin. Smoke, flames! Awesome
"Aaah, let it go 'til we've got these puppies unhooked at the switch yard... Then we'll pull it apart!
Just a turbo thats blown
NO
Yes it is Sarah
Sarah Sandholm Calle 'turbo bark' excess fuel from bad injectors goes out the exhaust...
certainly loved listening to birds for the first 3 fckn minutes. We don't have those here in Ontario!!! And the last minute watching freight cars. WOOHOO!!!. This should have been a 40 sec. clip.
kjm, Thanks for the kind words. Freeamerica. I uploaded this years ago straight out of my little flip pocket camera. I had no idea how the editing software worked and youtube didn't have the editor program available then and since its been up so long its not able to edited by youtube's editor, I tried already.
Does it suck that there is so much wasted time, yea it does. But like I said in my original comments when i uploaded it. I thought they train was not far away, as it turned out,it was
Welcome to GE locomotives. It is just a buildup in the turbo that ignites from time to time. Most old GEs do it.
I guess the only real fire danger is from 1) Brush or leaves that come too close to flames, 2) sparks flying off the engine and setting brush or leaves on fire, 3) sparks somehow setting off any oil residue on the cars immediately following. While some of that is possible, none of it is terribly likely, I imagine.
Nice frog serenade at the beginning, though...
It's this kind of thing that preceded the Lac-Mégantic rail disaster.
We have GE`s here in New Zealand, our engineers used to have competitions to see who could get the highest flame, I have seen flames about 2 ft above the loco, just a normal thing with GE`s
Lol that's awesome
😂😂
@Rodakgreen i think those tankers were empty, because i dont think they allow filled tankers directly behind those hot locomotives.
Wow great catch
I have a few Train Fire videos on TH-cam
Our SD40's do this all the time when we pull over the hump in the yard.
Sounds like some railroad has neglected to do maintenance on the turbo...
Enjoyed the pastoral scene that opens this.
Good ol CSX always F-ing up
This train has at least 1 tunnel to go thru (I think) before reaching northern NJ. Must have been interesting!
They weren't carrying any flammable liquids, as there are no placards, and you generally don't put Haz-Mat cars next to the locomotives. The tanks WILL vent gases if the temperature of the car rises to relieve pressure, and the vented gases CAN ignite. If the top of the tank is exposed to fire long enough, and the relief valve cannot vent the gases fast enough, the car WILL BLEVE. (Boiling Liquid, Expanding Vapor Explosion) There are several TH-cam videos of this happening.
also if thats your pic on RR archives, man that picture was crystal clear and awesome!
It's just a typical blown turbo or blown supercharger.
Quantities of engine oil are getting into the hot exhaust manifold and igniting there, giving an abundance of soot and flames out the exhaust stack.
If left that way it will eventually consume all the lube oil and destroy the motor, but these units have such an incredibly large oil reservoir that they often reach their destinations before the problem is even noticed.
Typical GE locomotive. GE always did make better toasters than locomotives.
tru
They certainly outsell progress rail....so apparently those toasters really pull tonnage
Is that why GM never made toasters?
@@waynepickhardt4975 Dunno Wayne. But I bet their 20 year old toasters would still pull 15000 tons up a hill! Bad ass toaster
General Electric or “Generally Defective”?
its a typical ge turbocharger issue , they are junk locomotives so they all do it at one time or another , hell even emd locomotives do it , nothing thats hurting anything usually an oil seal on the turbo or bad injector setup that causes it
conrailman1
I agree on them all doing it. Seen geeps do the same, and the old ALCO Centuries were notorious for it.
Looks like Pennsylvania. Any idea where it actually was?
Iona Island, NY. Its part of Bear Mt State Park.
Actually I looked into this and it's common for engines to shoot out flames when they are operating an diesel with a new engine installed.
who knows. But like i said in previous posts, it was spotted in the Philly area doing it still, so who knows how far it made it before it was shopped.
@2005GLI i remember back in 2005 when NS train 25Z had a ex Conrail C39-8 that was low on engine oil. the unit kept shutting it self down, but the crew kept restarting it. it went by, and flames were shooting out of the exhaust stack! man, the flames lit up the night.
i like it its the calm and the sounds that make it nice
I counted at least 40 cars with wheels flat spots, not much maintenance on those cars
Remember the time we were all watching this in like 2013.
THAT TRAIN IS ON FIRE!!!!! 🚂 🔥
Just a little turbo issue. Quite common & they always make for a good show even more so at night. It'll eventually trip the turbo pump alarm & shut down.
I have seen these trains from the top of Storm King mountain. Looking straight down is scary!
Iona Island at Bear Mountain, NY at MP41 on the CSX riverline.
The fire is caused by an external fuel injection system on the engine. it is not fake. great video
Got a flame common from that stack ! blow'n smoke black as coal six day's on the road and I am gone'a make it home tonight
What's with all these people thinking they know how locomotives work? a lot of people saying incorrect stuff about the engine and the fire probably don't even know this is a GE engine.
Or that the fire is fake even after posting videos of ge's doing this often
THEIR TURBO'S ARE NOT VERY GOOD ON A GE ENGINES
+Harold Smith
... Says the person who commented on a different video, saying that a long train is what causes the turbo to blow ...
Benjamin Esposti ha dummy
Shane's Vids truth
The flames on the second loco at 3:40 seem to say youre wrong- it was on fire.
Well, what part of the engine on #7817 proved bad when they decoupled her from Train Q409-17 at the next yard? A failed exhaust-side seal on the turbosupercharger center bearing will throw flames out the exhaust but not run the engine away, unlike failed piston rings.
Ghost Rider's new career as a train conductor may be going less well than CSX may have hoped...
thanks. And I agree on the wasted time. But the video was uploaded to far back for youtube's own video editor and im not deleting it to remove the wasted space.
Gee, and I always thought only EMDs at "RUN 8" were "ON FIRE"!
Sounds like what to Conrail's Trail Van 1 (TV1) when it was going through Defiance, Ohio.
Damnit. You beat me to it.
@nickyd100194 hey, that was a Dash 8! Those locomotives are awesome!
Ok, so judging by all the comments, and also my lack of knowledge about trains, and how they operate, this was most likely caused by a defective turbocharger? And that is not exactly a catastrophic event?
OneWiccanHighPriest kinda, could be defective fuel injectors too.
LOL >.> reminds me of the old GEs and how you would see them go up in Flames all the time :P
3:38
*sniff sniff* do you smell something? Or is it just me? -conducter
It's just you - train driver
HOLY SHIT - train driver
What -conducter
We're on fire -driver
I had to watch it to see what you meant. No, no chips being eaten. Most likely the broken tree branches and twigs that scatter the area. There are a few large tree's to the camera's left that I was parked under. The video camera was on a tripod and I had been walking around with the dslr snapping pics.
I'm amazed of the quality of video! What kind of camera did you use? Thanks.
ill be honest i almost left at like the 2:30 mark lol good catch tho man
keep up the good work