Train Fire! The Rest Of The Story! Locomotive On Fire & Fire Started By Train, Brush Fire! Flames!
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- Train on fire and grass fire next to Norfolk Southern Pittsburgh line! The locomotive was approaching us with flames coming out of the top. It stalled out on the grade and had to wait for help. NS Inspectors came out and the line was shut down for a short time. While the train sat another train passed it and a grass fire started. This is the complete story on that day in Cassandra, Pennsylvania or as Paul Harvey would say "The rest of the story". This video shows the unit tank car trains, the coal train and double stack intermodals that passed while the train sat unable to move. Also shown are the helper units that coupled on to the front and finally pulled the train eastbound toward Altoona. My previous video did not include all of this so here it is. I was railfanning the area with several other railfans, Millenniumforce crew and Revello608 who can be seen putting out the grass fire. Filmed June 18, 2018. 160.800 Does anyone read the descriptions? I get questions all the time with the answers right in the descriptions that I type. Thanks for watching! Please leave a comment, rate and SUBSCRIBE TO JAWTOOTH!!
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I used to work for EMD so I'm a bit biased. I've seen many GE units over the years with flames coming out of the stacks. Dash-7's were notorious, as were dash 8's and less so with dash 9's. Not sure why. GE looks like they have the issues corrected. EMD had their issues with injectors, dumping fuel into the exhaust system, and lost a few turbo's back in the day, and they also seemed to have the problem licked. The new dash 9's seem to run without flames but every once in awhile you get these kinda videos. You all are very patient at waiting ... good location and good shots!
@J G I remember the GE locomotives were kind of notorious for blowing flames through the exhaust stack due to turbocharger failures. Used to see that a *LOT* with Dash 7 and Dash 8 units.
That's exactly was it is, a blown turbo, and yes the problem's that caused it have been solved so yes you don't see a lot any more.
How exactly does it happen? Yet where I live by the same railroad with a sharp turn leading to the main part of town, I have not seen it happen.
@@metalcat5685 . . . when under heavy load the hydrodynamic bearings of the turbo charger get leaky then some motoroil is fed into the air intake of the engine and /or directly into the exhaust system where it starts the visual fire in the stack . . .
BNSF makes up hospital trains here in OKC. There are often evidence of fire on the sides of the car body in that area. I saw a pic of a UP with the hood blown out around the stack on the Evanston sub in WY.
I like how the engine was polite enough to stop burning just long enough to get under the bridge lol
The engineer notched drown from his previous position to unload the engine so it wouldnt flame into the bridge. Once he cleared the bridge , he notched back to the position so it would load up and help pull the train. That is probably why the train stalled past the bridge.
@@philmiddaugh3355 i don't think the train stalled per say it looked to me like the Engineer pulled the throttle 2 idle to come 2 a stop. if you noticed the flames and smoke quit as the train was slowing down
Yeah, i dont believe it stalled. He was told to stop. As it slows down you can hear the brakes squeal. He is more than likely doing that to stretch it to a stop.
@@philmiddaugh3355 I very much doubt that the engineer would be able to throttle down the engine with such precision as to stop the flames just before the second unit bridge, then throttle back up to start them just as it cleared the bridge. That level of fire burning that far below the bridge for such a short time would have done no damage to it. There were several people on the bridge and none of them felt they were in enough danger that they needed to move from their position directly above the train.
28:30. Now that's what I call a "smokestack!" Good music, too.
Played this video while I was busy doing other things and watching intermittently. Don't know why I find the sounds so soothing....
Got to love when a turbo blows up.
106 cars on that coal train, they're pull/pushing some serious tonnage there buddy
Boy, I wish I had friends like you guys.
We have fun. You should come along also
I was a Volunteer Fire Fighter from Dec 1987 to Nov 1997 for my local Volunteer Fire Company, We got called out the one time for a grass fire involving a train. When we got there we put out the grass fire checked on the locomotive. The guys on the train told us the engine developed an oil leak and almost caught fire. They were able to shut the engine down in time, but the very hot oil along with a spark from using the emergency brake. They tried to put out grass fire with a couple fire extinguishers they had on board, but the fire was too big for them to handle.
Another time we had one that was like that one in the video and we got called out. By the time we got there the fire was out in the engine, but there was a very small grass fire around the engine smoldering. So we put that out and waited with the train crew for a little while while they waited for a response to see if they were to leave the engine there or wait for a tow. The Train then sat there for a couple days before it got a tow.
Both of those incidents took place at a flour mill in our town.
Awesome! I was a firefighter in the 70s and 80s
So close looks like you could feel it! And Paul Harvey, yes remember him well on the AM dial
Also thanks for the gentleman that put out the grass fire.
It looks like an old coal fired steam loco blowing smoke to take me back to the good old days of railroading. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the "Hearted" like!
You caught a lot of action that day. Thanks for sharing. The diversity of stock being transported is impressive.
Yes Sir,I remember your first video about this,well.
Thanks for the follow up.
Take care!
I dunno how you do it Brian, always managing to be in the right places at the right times.. I envy you for that.. Good stuff.. I would've been scared when that engine ducked under the walkway!
Hi Brian! Great video! Looks like a great area to Railfan!
I can’t believe how lush the forest is there compared to arid Nevada! Very interesting and great catch!
😮 wow!!! 2 fires 🔥 amazing video and trains 🚂
I love seeing those SDs, they just look right.
When you're a diesel, but mom said you could be anything you wanted, so you became a steam engine.
That is funny! Lol
@@JawTooth hence why in the categories under the video one is "steam locomotives"
I think I can I think I can......
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i also like the paint schemes on these locomotives. looks cool
I remember this video,long time ago Brian,nice to see again.
Here’s a rare sight in my community. Four locomotives on two separate tracks. That’s two locomotives coupled together at the long hood end on the wye and two identically coupled on the bridge track. I have a feeling that the yard in my hometown isn’t big enough to hold all of Lycoming Valley Railroad’s equipment.
Lots of train action on this line. Thanks for sharing it!
Thanks for watching!
Excellent videography and commentary. Thanks
Such subtle drama on mere ribbons of steel - gotta love it.
Good stuff! Nice area you were in and a great place to view passing trains.
Great work as usual. Thank you, JT
It self identifies as a coal fired steam locomotive.
Lmao good one
LoL I was thinking the same thing mate but I was thinking of steam diesel
Loved the video good spot to take some good videos & photos
That's how it apparently works in 2020. :(
Can't tell if it's a girl or a boy or maybe it's a little confused.
fire was in the stack, dump unburned fuel out the stack, which then burns when it get where it can mix with air. Note it was only happening when the put the engine under load [ramped up the power demand].
I had an old POS GE as my second unit on train R326, Chicago, Ill - Grand Rapids, MI. Turbo blew just outside of Chicago. It made a smoke trail all the way to Grand Rapids that would have made a coal burning steam locomotive jealous.
The age of the diesel locomotive does not determine how bad the unit is. Rather it is determined by the amount of care and maintenance it recieves.i was an engineer for csx, and we had 5 units all ge locomotives. The fourth unit's alarm bells went off , telling the crew that it was having trouble getting air through her filters in the rear of the radiators.they refused to go back and see about it, until, I saw a huge stack of fire and smoke coming from her exhaust stack.i went back and put her in isolation, and I tagged her for shop work.i personally took her off line and reported what happened to the dulispacther.we had too many cars and not enough locomotives to pull the train. This locomotive had been neglected for over a year! The railroad wouldn't even take her to the shops.i took her instead. And solved the problems she was having.and she got repaired, and I was able to save both her and the railroad thousands in costly repairs. She lasted for another 20 years until she was sent to a shoreline in ohio.today, she is still earning her keep hauling grain trains for her new owners so, if you take care of them, they will give you decades of service.
@@terrywallace8922, just stating fact that it was old. I had newer GE locomotives do it too. Just stated this one because it lasted 205 miles. I too was an engineer for CSX.
"Got some kind of grass fire going on over by the tracks let's go have a look..........WHEW!" Jaw Tooth your a pretty funny dude. LOL
Lolz
Great video, love freight trains, especially NS and CSX. I try to catch them in Morristown Tennessee when I'm there.
Loved the video, you never know whats goin to happen, extra, great music too. Thanks, Chas, uk.
So it didn't stall, they stopped due the smoke and flames, you can clearly heard the brakes are applying as he came under the bridge the Engineer was only powering through to keep everything nice and tight for the restart.
That passing train was one loooooooong as train. WOW!
"Its hard to stop a train ..'...fire ! 🔥
Great video. I have seen so many SD40Es, I almost missed that Spartan Cab SD70 on the front of the coal train. 21:05
Now that's an old oil burner, couldn't have picked a better day to be there. A true professional keeps filming whilst falling. Well done. 🇬🇧
Thank you!
I remember this one!
Live turbo fire action!
i have never seen an EMD become a flame thrower, but have seen a number of GE and ALCO's sending flames out. The first was at Dampier in the Pilbara in Western Australia when a C628 Alco Number 2000 seized the turbo on its way back from the mines. It was not supposed to be in service as it along with its four mates were written off and put into a dead line. However due to loco failures (big failures), there was a shortage of locos. 2000 was pulled out of the deadline unofficially put back into service by the locals. It was the original Alco built for Hammersley Iron and was still original when retired. As it didn't "exist", it was kept going. I was on my way nto work on night shift when I was stopped at the bridge over the railway line. I had noticed what appeared to be a fire ahead of me and slightly to the left as I was driving. I soon found the source of the fire and it was 2000 throwing flames about 30 feet into the air and the exhaust was nearly white hot. The sequel to the incident was it was put into the workshop and a spare turbo that was in the spares store was fitted. Back in service about 8 hours later. There was a sequel which involved auditors etc, where the five units were re-instated on a fuel oil and minor repair basis until the repair shop could catch up. I know that minor repairs was taken to be if there was a spare part use it, not the auditors interpretation. As the units failed, they were cannabalised to keep the others going. 2000 was the last to be put back in the dead line, and was still in good running order with no further maintence done or required. It has been preserved.
Wow, thanks for your awesome comments Lewis!
There comes a point where one needs to stop worrying about getting the video and put the fire out. Glad the one guy did. Everyone else was just looking at it like nitwits.
At last someone with some sense !
I like your train videos and I'm a rail fan
Nice walking bridge over the railroad tracks. Really great view of the trains Jaw Tooth! I've always wanted to get a Norfolk Southern coal train. I've got plenty of CSX coal trains but no Norfolk Southern coal trains. The Norfolk Southern coal train is what made this video really interesting in my opinion. The double stack train was awesome to.
Seems to be a common theme nowadays: Newer GE units breaking down and the helper units that arrive are almost always 40-50 year old EMD power still going strong. Granted most have been rebuilt several times over, but it's a testament to their design to still be kept in daily service while GE units of equal age get scrapped.
Crazy fire, great catch, kinda like my big train fire video
Good old Dash 9 toaster. Had it on high stetting there.
Great catch. Lots of action in this location.
Thank you very much!
My family and I were walking the trail up to the first tunnel dug for trains, East of Johnstown PA when I saw a 3-engine train on the tracks below. Third engine was on fire. Turbo was cooking. Called 911, train stopped, and FD put fire out. Wish I took videos.
That would have made an incredible video
Ravishing Rick Flair and Jerry Clauer out bar-b-que'ing some horses!
Wooo! ;)
Glad they stopped the flames as it came under the bridge.
Is Jerry Clower still with us?
@@dsmith9964 no, he died back in 98. Actually about two weeks after a cycle accident almost took me. Not a big deal, just stands out because it was some of the first news stories I remember when I was coming around again. He was a great one.
@@donavonrobbins1908 I remember Jerry Clower making appearances on The Porter Waggoner Show and maybe Hee Haw back in the 70s
@@dsmith9964 yeah this Yankee brat had to sit through her jaw on Saturdays at Grandma's. And then WWF came on, too. I remember travelling out of state on family vacations and listening to his radio show. Wonder if he wrote any books. Not that I'm a reader, but id read his.
"LIVE ACTION!" (00:24) --- I died laughing. Bravo!
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I saw a CSX burning like that a couple of years ago. I called CSX and told them. I was at an intersection. They said it was just burning off some oil. I told them I was worried about it setting the wood on fire. I had videotaped tape a lot of trains, but I had never seen that before.
Wow what a video!! U couldn't have been in a better spot. Great catch man!! Keep them vids coming !! 😎😎😎 what started the grass fire , any idea. Spark off a truck set maybe ? Or spark off a brake shoe ? Hmmm
Thanks 👍 I don't know how the grass fire started. Probably from the locomotive somehow but I don't know
@@JawTooth yeah could been anything again great video man !! 😀
Parabéns belo vídeo. 🇧🇷
Hi JT, I bet you could not get that to happen again!! Great video with all those freight trains and the coal train,one of those other trains seemed to be smoking as well, also the grass fire. Think you should take a fire extinguisher with you in future!! All the very best to you and your family, keep up the great work. Cheers Martin🇬🇧
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Those older sd helpers were pushing the tank train. 6320 facing you. Enjoyed the video.
I just found this channel and watched in amazement, 5 Locos and 101 trucks full of what looks like coal. Here in the UK we have a sand quarry and the biggest train I have seen had 1Loco and 25 small sand trucks. Worlds apart lol.
turbos probably blown !!! pumping oil strait in the inlet manifold !!! imagine something like that happening here in the UK , health & safety would have a field day , that would be parked there for weeks & weeks before getting sorted !!! lovly video , top marks chaps
Totally cool! Love all the live action!
All we needed were some sticks, hot dogs, and marshmallows to roast!
Jaw Tooth AND Millenniumforce together?? legit the best of both worlds
Imagine all the weight of those tankers!
Nice video! I have been to this place before. It is about two and half hours from where I live.
This video showed up on a list of videos to look at on 7 July 2021. I am glad that you had an opportunity to document the fire on this engine in 2019 when Millenium Force did his tour that year. It was interesting to see what the Norfolk Southern decided to do with this train that had a fire on one of the trains engines. The helper engines came to assist the stranded train on its way. I presume that the train was taken to the next rail yard where the fire damaged engine was removed and replaced by an engine in working order. Thank you uploading this video.
I am glad you liked it and thanks for your comments!
Busy Place, nice video, thanks, Ed
Glad you enjoyed it
Lots of train traffic I’m gonna have to put this on my bucket list as spot to catch NS trains
Awesome video jaw tooth and Allen I hope to take a train trip with you guys someday even in New Jersey to see if trains will be running on the restored railroad line in Lakehurst more
Norfolk Southern double teamed by Jawtooth and Millenium Force ! Interesting subject- a blown Charger by the looks and on the flat ? Superb filming again Jawtooth- nice close up details as is the norm !
Regards
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Great video! I wondered what caused flames from the "stack." I enjoyed waiting with you to the train being rescued. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Lol..a whole car full. Been wanting to get down there into this area for a while now. The fire is great!
Cool video! Thumbs up and greetings from Finland,
Juha :)
My friend use to drive 100’s of miles - on occasion - just to see a particular train roll thru an intersection. That’s quite an addiction..
I know exactly what you mean. I have travelled over a thousand miles to see a particular train several times. lol
Wow NS engines have to be getting old or need service Thanks good video
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All good family fun. Cheers. Chris from England.
Thanks Chris!
There is another video on YT of NS 9672 blowing smoke and flame from December 2017. It was behind NS 7243 (EMD). You gotta wonder what's going on with that loco!
What an adventure for rail fans😊.
Whewwwww. That was a good one, son!!!!
wow 🔥
Hey jawtootooth, this is what happens when you don't take care of your equipment!I have see a lot of good locomotives destroyed in this way, because of the negligence of the railroad to give these locomotives the care and maintenance they need! This is NOT THE IMAGE THAT YOU WANT AS A CLASS ONE RAILROAD!THE UNITS HAS A WAY OF TELLING YOU THAT THEY NEED SOME ATTENTION, BOTH MECHANICALLY, AND ELECTRICALLY.NO RAILROAD SHOULD ALLOW THEIR LOCOMOTIVES TO GET IN THIS BAD ASHAPE! MOST LINES WILL TAKE A BRAND NEW UNIT ,AND WILL RUN IT IN THE GROUND, AND WONT GIVE IT NO MAINTENANCE!THIS HAS LED TO MANY LOCOMOTIVES BEING SCRAPPED,AND DESTROYED BY THE FAILURE OF THE RAILROAD TO TAJE CARE OF THE UNITS!AND AS A RESULT, HUNDREDS OF MODELS HAVE DISAPPEARED, NEVER TO RUN AGAIN ,AND SEEN AGAIN. IT IS SAD THAT THE RAILROADS DINT TAKE CARE OF THE LOCOMOTIVES THAT THEY DEPEND ON TO MAKE MONEY FOR THR RAILROADS! THINGS LIKE THIS CAN BE PREVENTED FROM HAPPENING IF THE CLASS ONES WOULD TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEIR LOCOMOTIVES!
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You could roast a hotdog on that exhaust. We love our train videos in Clemson SC, Go Tigers! Keep it up
That was interesting. Could have been bad if that grass fire spread. Thanks to the guy that put it out.
Joan Kamp took him long enough to do it though.
Great footage.!!!
A blown turbo is easy to spot. Lots of black smoke because the engine not being provided the right air mix and flames because of unburnt diesel fuel that ignites due to the extremes hot exhaust as it leaves the stack.
I live about 45 minutes from Altoona. Take I-99 to 322 West and that takes you to Clearfield. We have an Rj. Corman yard there
great filming on this
Awesome Video.
Jaw Tooth. And Millenniumforce. 👍👍👍🌹🌻🇮🇳🌷🌻
Great video ! That looks like a great place to watch trains from especially with that walking bridge going over it. Is it on a major trail ?
Great catches Jawtooth
Great video sir!
A very long time ago. I seen a C.N.W. engine on fire rolling into Chicago. Soon after it passed. Fire trucks were Putting out fires all along the right or way.
Whooooo! Wasn’t that exciting, whoooooo! Can’t wait to see some more, whoooooo!
He was sure limping bad. Bonus for me the NS coal train. My husband mined coal for years.
YIKES...FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!!
Great video, right place atyhe right time,very interesting, good work
Thanks 👍
I've never seen so many JB Hunt boxes before in one place! lol My sister drove for JB Hunt for a few years in the beginning or her 25yr truck driving career.
That would be a road Foreman of engines possibly. Nice video.
Well good video and great job putting out that fire Very interesting video I like that