That Time the Republic Tried a GENOCIDE of the Sith - Republic History #7
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Republic: Tries to genocide the sith
Sith: You dare use my own spells against me, potter?
LOL
Love this
Priori Incantatem, witch!
Abra Kadaberra
@@robertagu5533 What?
Jedi: Yeah Old Republic! Yeah science!
(Explosions and conquests intensify)
I love this history of the republic geetslys series
It is really good and it is nice that it isn't a short overview
Those old school comics were legit. Better than what we have today.
Thought it was a tactical call by the republic senate, not the Jedi.
@Alex Pokrandt if the Jedi didn’t follow those orders, they would have been declared enemies of the republic most likely.
It’s a small portion of the dirty history between the Jedi and the republic.
This shows that the Jedi are just as willing as the Sith to cross very morally questionable lines for their cause
@Lokabrenna KOTOR lore has recently been deemed canon by Lucasfilm (January 2020), so the Jedi’s genocide of the Sith species is therefore canon now
More than that. The Sith at this time were also disgusted by Naga Sadow and his creations and such. The Jedi and Republic didn't try genocide because of one leader with a bunch of magical pets he controlled. They did it themselves. Quite the difference and it severely scarred the Sith culturally and snowballed into what the Sith became. To the point their constant attempts to conquer the Republic (they were fine co-existing until Sadow convinced them the Republic was going to invade) and exterminate the Jedi are just because the Sith believe those things must be achieved or they'll be exterminated. Which the Republic and Jedi happily justify again and again by doing exactly that.
@@midgetydeath Very true. Also the Jedi preached that the Dark Side is bad when in truth it is a natural part of the force as the Light Side. While you cannot use both the Dark and Light together as one Force, you can however us the Dark Side sparingly in controlled bursts. The reason being is that the Dark Side doesn’t not Give Power, but rather Reveals the power that is within a person to warp their environment. The problem or in truth the Responsibility, that comes with the Dark Side is that it will test and bring out the person that you are from within. It only by accepting your flaws but embracing the good that is within you, that you can use the negative emotions to aid you in reshaping reality or the Force, without allowing the Force reshaping you and overly depend on it to tell you what you should be.(Which has been the misfortune of most Force-Welders of the Sith because they abuse the Dark Side, either by embracing and becoming content with their own imperfects and forge themselves into tools of great burden upon on reality as in the case of Palpatine or they abuse it by formulating it into a Psychological Crutch like Anakin, Dooku (to an extent) and Maul for which they view the DS as the only solution to their “Self-Perceived” weakness, relying on the DS to give them power that they already processed! in The Light by contrast (When taken to the extreme by the Jedi) forces you to be fake and reject the person that you are, and thus destroying the parts that make you human. Balance involves see the benefits of both sides of the Force, without being overly restrained by teaching and philosophy.
@Lokabrenna it is not a fanon myth it is an old EU fact, this is what used to be true before disney decanonised everything. Just because it doesn't fit with your "heroic jedi" myth doesn't mean it's fake
@Lokabrenna even if what you said is true, cultural genocide is still wrong and the jedi definitely killed a bunch of innocents (also if bioware said it and it is officially part of the EU then it is the truth whether you like it or not you can't just ignore parts of the old EU when it suits unless you mean that in your headcanon there was no genocide which is fine since headcanon can be whatever you want)
>Sith do bad things all the time like slavery and genocide.
Everyone: ...
>Jedi do bad things once every 1000 years but still maintain galactic peace.
Everyone: tHe JeDi aRe tHe TrUlY eViL onEs
Peace according to whom? Not to the outer rim suffered alot while core worlds were enriched. Heck they abandoned all their other temples so they would only stay with the central power of the republic. Jedi thinks peace is lack of physical violence but won't or are not able teach compassion or wisdom to others due to them being too detached. They only cover the symptoms of issues but never reach the core of conflicts. The kaleesh and battle of Gilderaan are prime examples.
@@Spartan3D213 Uh, peace is peace. The Outer Rim where the Republic existed was at peace too. Regardless of other social issues, there was peace. Period. End of story.
What, do you expect the Jedi to be Gods or something? Why does it fall to the Jedi to solve every galactic issue lest they be portrayed as arrogant idiots? They already pull their weight by maintaining galactic peace with only ten's of thousands of Jedi in a freaking GALAXY. What, do you expect them to end slavery? Solve poverty? Stop racism?
How exactly would they even be able to do anything without Republic support? They don't have a navy or army outside of themselves. Like, Jesus dude. Have some perspective. They're ludicrously successful for what they are.
They're both bad but it doesnt take a genius to figure out that the jedi are better
@@stephenjenkins7971 they had an army and navy by themselves and could've governed with Jedi lords as watchmen, whom themselves were the final stand of the Jedi/republic to begin with. most of their problems happened cause they were too tied with the republic while they've should've been separated since the pro human cult invaded it to begin with and become 3rd party that helped any government if they wished, not tied down by a single Senate. Not to mention their rules themselves restricted their numbers as well with the whole age thing they didn't have until after Ruusan reformation. I only put those expections on them cause they made themselves out to be that way, and many Jedi prior to Geonosis may have thought so too. As for peace, I view the Jedi as the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil kind of group that won't do anything about the evil unless it's directly infront of them, got this from dookus backstory since his padawan years.
@@G59forlife. from a certain point of view.
Man, please never stop making Legends content! This stuff needs to remain relevant if we are to keep Star Wars alive, especially in the wake of certain "canon"...milestones, such as the hIgH Republic.
Can we take a moment to talk about "Legends of the Lasat" episode from Rebels?!! "Legends of the Lasat" is such a superior episode to most of the series. From the music to the lore all the way down to the camera shots. The shot of the Tie Pilot in first person perspective flying towards the maelstrom with the violin orchestra is THE BEST SCENE in all of Rebels! Possibly in all of animated Star Wars!
Hmm, not that connected with this story much, but yeah, you're pretty much right.
The ep also brought back memories of when Star Wars was based on pre-Prequel mysticism and mystery too.
It's such a treat to watch really. Like I seriously can't get enough of the music set pieces in that episode. 100% agree that the mysticism was a breath of fresh air for fans like you and I who preferred a pre-midiclorian view of The Force. I know it was off topic for the video but it's really been on my mind for a couple months now and Geetz is my UNDISPUTED favorite Lore channel!! Really love his opinions on the EU and his in depth analysis of the animated shows as a whole. Just would really love to hear what he has to say about it and have no idea when the next Rebels video could be. Lol. Thanks for the comment back! You rock bro! 🤘 First time ever commenting
And so began the rise of the Sith... all because of two troublemakers running away from some scum and an interplanetary system named after warrior empress.
Gotta say, the Tales of the Jedi comics really epitomized the beginning of the existence of the Star Wars Legends galaxy as we fan know it.
Geetsly: "He revealed a crucial flaw in the Sith Armada."
Me: "What? A thermal exhaust port 2 meters wide?"
Geetsly: "Most of it didn't exist."
Me: "... Yeah, that's pretty bad."
True Sith:
*Driven back to Korriban*
The Jedi and Old Republic:
Ayy time to commit war crimes!
I wish these had citations - or credits for the art used so I could go see the originals
I've honestly got nothing to say on this video specifically, so I'll just say this: love your vids Geetsly, they're always fun, your voice is great for narrations, and you have really helped me expand my Star Wars knowledge, which in turn helps make my Star Wars fanfics as accurate as possible.
Can't wait for the next vid.
Thank you for the wonderful comment :)
Make sure the fanfics are high-quality and not stereotypical grossness and mush.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Welp given my skill there probably only Medium Level Quality. LOL.
But I can assure you that I don't do grossness. Although, I'm not entirely sure about the mush because I'm not 100% sure what that means.
@@zexalbrony4799 Too much romance and pointless shipping... and some stuff I shouldn't talk about.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Oh, I'm kind of a decently big shipper and I like romance, so I would not recommend reading some of my fanfics if that's not your thing. But all my current pure Star Wars fanfics don't have that much, just a bit of Anakin and Padme, and a little of Ventress and Vos.
Much like Hell itself had breached the universe, an unyielding and all-encompassing fire of darkness had cut through the stars from the beyond, all the way to the heart of the Republic itself, and then, just as quickly as it had caught aflame, it was snuffed out, leaving an iron hot state of panic across the galaxy.
Please, read the following in a thicc Brazillian accent. And play Hava Nagila in the background.
Meanwhile, the Sith were at it again, about to commit another invasion. Lead by the Dark Lord of the Sith Naga Sadow, he promised to conquer the Republic by any means necessary.
He gathered his fanatical Sith lords, and carved through the outer rim worlds, taking it for themselves. When the local Republic garrisons responded, they were massacred by half a million Sith.
Sadow purged all of his conquered territory of non-Sith, civilians and Jedi alike, along with their wives and children. When news of the massacre reached the Chancellor, Pultimo. Went. Mad.
He set course for Sith territory, backed by 12 Jedi legions, and they started killing every Sith they could find. No mercy was shown, no quarter given. Pultimo would settle for nothing less .... than the complete genocide of the Sith.
*Galactic RES*PVBLICA dabbing intensifies
SITHIS*DELENDA*EST
2:16: Concord Dawn? Never heard that name for a long while.
This is why you can't trust the Jedi. Droid Bois for life.
Don’t trust the jedi or Sith be a bounty hunter or droid lol
Idk, I think barring this one thing, the Jedi have a pretty stellar record. :D
@@davidordaz5251 bounty hunters seem the least trustworthy, but somehow I'd trust them more than the republic
@@stephenjenkins7971 I’d say that they have a stellar record even counting this war. The sith attacked first and the Jedi (along with the navy) were ordered to destroy the sith by the chancellor
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Loving these history lessons. Keep up the great work!
This was a great birthday present. Thanks a bunch!
I saw this and I thought wait which time was that? Mostly because i feel the republic has done this more than once
Didn't they try something similar to this to the mandalorians cause they feared as second mandalorian war?.
I think they did
There have been so many Sith Wars they can be somewhat redundant/recycled after a while...
Hmmm probably why Disney is scared to dive into more of them
@@snaplordmeep6748
We are getting a Knights of the Old Republic remake. If it becomes canon, we could get at least some of it in the Disney Timeline...
The victor writes the history books in their own favor
I never knew I need this history, but now that it is here, I’m always looking forward to it !
Yavin IV *exists*
War: It’s free real estate
10:00: Getting some Black Fleet Crisis flashbacks here, and speaking of that, plans on checking out the events of BFC someday, Geetsly's?
Genocide? No, it was a perfectly justified action, and the old Republic did nothing wrong.
-totally true opinion and wasn't paid by the jedi
You know all that happened because jedi didn't want to kill the ones who fell to the dark side and decided to exile them, which they landed on korriban. Which was what gave raise to the sith. Then they tried to genocide it which failed and backfired.
Of course we would love to see a video on the entire Sith Empire
Y~up!
I’d like to know the histories of those who dared challenged the Galactic Republic & such…
Empire is poggers join the empire
It seems pretty chill. I might join it, or something.
White power
Stormtrooper motto
@@Nob911 bro i promise you we dont say that lmao
YO DUDES
@@geetslys “The Empire is pretty chill. Maybe you could join it or something.”
Watching this, for whatever reason, I find myself wondering if there was ever a member of the Sith species who chose to follow the light side.
You redeem a Sith Lord in the Jedi Knight storyline in SWTOR.
This series is fantastic
So.. The Daragons... The ancient scouts whom are the reason the Sith returned... The Ghosts of generations of Jedi must be pretty pissed about this.. The whole franchise in every medium as we know it is pretty much their fault.
They accomplished a literal one in ten billion chance of a random jump. The wrong place at the wrong time.
well it wasn't really their fault, if the republic/jedi had simply tried to incorporate the defeated sith instead of exterminating them this probably wouldn't have led to thousands of years of conflict
This is one of the main reasons I prefer the sith
Same here, their hypocrisy and not owning to their mistakes left me loosing them to be viewed as heros."all life is precious my a**".
And the fact that you're an edgelord?
Edge lord momento
@@geetslys not really, but prefer kreias view, both sides are flawned but must learn fr their strength and weaknesses, while I respect some of the main Jedi cast but some are too much like noman kar (sith warrior swtor) and ki adi mundi's
@@geetslys Haha
I think it would be cool to have a series on the Sith empire
The old republic stuff always remember me 40k like a lot horus heresy and stuff like that
Okay, since this connects pretty spot on I need an opinion for a Star Wars RPG I'm gonna write.. basically my character retrieves the Telos Holocron from the New Jedi temple when he turns to the darkside, resurrecting parts of KOTR era, armed with the knowledge of the Holocron he goes on a tear through the Jedi in a mass genocide. Its up to the players to either stop me or turn me again to the light.
Eh??
YES ! More Please !
Live long and Prosper - Grand Master Spock 🖖
Lol @ the mandalorian guernica
Daragon Trail is my favorite classic computer game
the more lore about the old republic the better
Didn't later generations of Jedi condemned that part of the order's history and saw it as a black stain?
Yup, i think Plo Koon was one of them but don't quote me
13:05: Ooh, Exar Kun and the Great Sith War will come next, I assume. After that, the Mandalorian Wars, the Jedi Civil War, the First Jedi Purge and the Sith Civil War, Revan's unknown yet ultimately successful crusade against the threats outside the known galaxy (be it the "True Sith", the Yuuzhan Vong, or some mysterious force of evil), a bunch of small-scale conflicts between 3951-2000 BBY, and, finally, the New Sith Wars and the covert manipulations of Darth Bane era...
yes i would a complete history of the sith
Genocide, this is supposed to be sci-fi!
Sweet 👍
12:25
sith suicides ? dont make my laugh...
since when genocide is called suicide ?
Korribano Delenda Est.
The history of the space fascist wizards would be rad
That time the republic was based
Does anyone here fancy joining a professional BF2 Legion on Ps4/5?
So that's why it's a Clash of Clans story?
Yeah no, the genocide was shitty, but the Sith and their Lords were assholes, you simply cannot deal in good faith with someone on the dark side, so, better destroy him.
The sith lost and were driven back to korriban. And you have to understand not all sith wanted war. The sith, lost, but they decided to genocide them, which backfired.
Is this legends? Or is canon?
I would think it’s all legends material
this is legends
Thanks
It's the only one that matters. So Legends.
This is Legends though some of Tales of The Jedi might be part of the Disney Timeline via "The Qel-Droma Epics." I say might because, in-universe, it's debated whether the wars against both Naga Sadow and Exar Kun actually happened, or if they were fables...
From my point of view , the Jedi are evil !
“Would you like to see a video...”
What is this amateur hour?
The Sith back then accepted peace and tranquility and the Light Side just as readily as passion and violence and the Dark Side. Think of it as the difference between a calm, technical warrior and a passionate, aggressive warrior. Both are strong and so both are accepted. After the champions of the Light Side tried to genocide them, the Sith decided fuck the Light Side and determined that it is evil. Literally. They genuinely believe the Light Side betrayed them and is outright evil.
The Sith at this time were also disgusted by Naga Sadow and his creations and such. The Jedi and Republic didn't try genocide because of one leader with a bunch of magical pets he controlled. They did it themselves. Quite the difference and it severely scarred the Sith culturally and snowballed into what the Sith became. To the point their constant attempts to conquer the Republic (they were fine co-existing until Sadow convinced them the Republic was going to invade) and exterminate the Jedi are just because the Sith believe those things must be achieved or they'll be exterminated. Which the Republic and Jedi happily justify again and again by doing exactly that.
*"Hello There! Hope you all have a phenomenally good week! May the force be with you always!"*
Thank you space jesoos
*confused screaming*
@@G59forlife. *visible confusion* ...did you got cloned????
You are a bold one. This has got out of hand, now there's two of them .
@@Cybernaut551 loool now I'm waiting for a 3rd general kenobi to appear out of nowhere...
Isn't it ironic that the same temple that used to house a Sith empire-in-exile became the heart of the Rebellion thousands of years later?
"I can always tell if someone has played kotor simply if they have the delusion that the jedi are good."
-Some smart person on twitter
You mean that if they believe that the Jedi are good then it ment they have not seen the contrast provided by the Kotor games.
Goated quote 🔥
@Lokabrenna For real dude, it’s dumbfounding. This way of thinking kinda reminds me of how sports fans always expect the best player on their team to play well and then get all mad at them on the rare night they don’t play well. For crying out loud, this person is the best player on the team, why does he/she get all the criticism in the world for a few bad games while the teammates who aren’t as good only get like 1/4 of the criticism? They probably use that same logic with flawed heroes cuz it’s like “you’re a hero, you don’t get to be flawed, we should be able to take for granted the fact that you’re never gonna have an off-day”
They are good yet imperfect, but 99% percent of Siths and their supporters are assholes. And I wonder what that Twitter person think of Republican.
@@GHOSTRIDER373737 I hope as a normal person. Most of Twitter is basically braindead
Sometimes the Jedi and the Republic make their own enemies, and no doubt that many within the Senate and Jedi Council should have taken actions to truly destroy the Sith. This singular act of genocide will haunt the Galaxy for thousands of years and one day they will rule the Galaxy with an iron fist.
In this case the Jedi were forced into it by the republic
The Jedi were content to beat down and exile them. The Republic wanted them wiped out of existence. The Jedi followed through with a compromise of sorts and forgot about them. The Sith never forgave either for it.
Even if they did the force is always in conflict with itself and even if the sith were eliminated a new order of the dark side would eventually take over
Classic stories of heroes vs villains sometimes the villains make the heroes and the heroes make more of the villains😁
Thank you for this video, I'm glad you mentioned the 'Stygian Caldera' because I always wondered what was keeping the Sith from the rest of the galaxy. What keeps the Republic from discovering the 12 dead worlds the True Sith destroyed? In the Revan novel it mentions that all 12 worlds T3 pulled from the Nathema database were worlds discovered by the republic, so I've always wondered that.
can you make a video of silencers on star wars, focusing on the clone troopers like the dual pistols of fordo,
I´v seen some silenced weapons in non oficial star wars mods for games and i love to seen a vido explaining it
Hmm, interesting topic, this.
When you speak spanish you can't take seriously an empress called Teta
Ok but please can the Bad batch resurrect Mace Windu and Get Sam L Jackson to voice him!!!!
Jedi: "No. The Sith are too driven by passion for us to feel safe and secure in our Galaxy. It's ours now."
I think both the Sith and Jedi were very flawed groups. While, yes, the sith were murdering psychopaths who'd happily genocide their own race if it meant they'd become more powerful, the Jedi's more passive and unambitious ways often resulted in them becoming stagnant, to comfortable in their own traditions and confident in their own righteousness to ever work towards improving. When they did take action it was to protect the status quo, which could sometimes lead them to extremes such as attempted genocide. This near sedentary nature is what lead to the jedi orders destruction at the hands of papa Palps.
Forgoing all attachments and attempting to deaden their emotions probably didn't help with any of the above either. It's one way they should have followed the siths lead, afterall if the force is the very essence of life itself and emotion is a part of it than any reasonable force user should embrace that, without letting it control them.
And of course the irrational fear of the darkside the jedi had, refusing to even study the surface level elements of it, left them very ill prepared for the return of the sith.
If I had to choose one I'd obviously pick the jedi, since despite their flaws they are a peaceful group, it can't be denied there are certain things they could have learned from their ideologies.
The irony is that you can't really kill the Sith for good. Because the Sith aren't a species, they're an ideology.
very interesting video
Oh man Geetsly has done it again. Keeps me so entertained and wanting more.
It’s alright because the Senate got his revenge.
I know it’s unlikely it’ll happen, and I know I’m probably gonna get hated for this but I would love for a tv series inspired by this era someday.
Naga Sadow: worst strategist in Sith history?
Im half tong on my father's side
who names a planet after themselves?
Next time its the Sith Wars of the 3900's. And who knows maybe the Mandalorians will show up.
"... Until she launched something called the *Reunification Wars* "
Warhammer 40k Fans: Hey i've heard this one before!
Sith eww Eternal empire 🤌🏻
The origins of the Lost Tribe begin here.
Was there a possibility any of the Sith from 1000 BBY to beyond could claim descendance from the Sith-borne species?
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Thanks enjoying this series
I'd love to see more of anything Star Wars you're doing.