Sumerian Influence on the Bible: The Rise of Patriarchy, Creation, The Gods, Lilith, Garden of Eden
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- This is Spiritual Studies session #31. This session focuses on Mesopotamia and how this polytheism that shifted in the ancient world became the Bible. From Sumeria, to the Assyrians and Babylonians, onto the writers of the canonical Bible and all of its apocryphal rough drafts, we can tease out the history of thought, the line that went from goddess worship, to God slaying Leviathan.
Although the study of Sumeria is overflooded with Ancient Alien interpretations, this talk focuses on the comparative religion perspective, keeping to the myths and the interchanges of ideas from culture to culture.
We use the Enuma Elish as a reference point, elaborating on the pantheon on the ancient world and noting the points of interest throughout. From here one can discuss how the creation of man was told, how the earth was formed, and outside of mythos, how religion became unnatural.
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Just came across your channel and i want to say please don't stop man i've been connecting the dots as i have been studying more and more about ancient cultures and just realized how much is taken from the sumerian texts. I grew up in a strict roman catholic church but something always told me something isn't right here. But your work here will be extremely valuable to the next curious person.
Same. It's hard to find like minds tbh. I try to talk to people and most think you're either crazy or just plain weird. I cannot get enough of uncovering the truth.
The truth always comes to light no matter which religion tries to hide it
Dude! I totally feel you! I'm 35 years old and was a Christian until a few weeks ago, it has been extremely mind bending, and extremely difficult process, but the truth is worth it
How do u know texts weren't taken from Moses
I studied in an Eclectic Wiccan Coven many years ago. After gaining my 3rd Degree I left my Coven. Spent a little over 20yrs studying everything I could get my hands on that had anything to do with Babylon.
Never wanted to start my own Coven but it became clear it was time when 6 people asked me to teach them within 8wks. So "Twin Rivers Rising" a Babylonian Reconstructionist Tradition was born.
Thank you for sharing this information and lecture.
I've remained a peripheral speaker and contributor to a non-denominational pagan commune here in the PNW, sometimes being on the outside looking in is the best method in more ways than one.
Happy you came across this material, happy to hear from another educator.
Woah, was those 6 people in 8 weeks 13 years ago around September?
This is one of the best educational channels out there!
Thank you so much for your efforts to educate us in things you know
You've given me some terrific story ideas. Thank you!
Few things that stood out to me as I was listening. "Apsu" is cognate with "Amruth" (p->m, s->r, both these transitions are changes in manner of articulation keeping the position of articulation the same, and then add 'th' at the end), which is the life-giving water in Hinduism. The word decomposes as "A-mrtyu" (meaning "un-dying"). Mamu is cognate with man, and also the sanskrit word "man" which refers to that part of our brain which is capable of reason, AKA logos (the hindu idea of the brain divides it into 3 parts, ahankaar, man and bhuddi, which are analogous to the psychological concepts of the id, ego and superego) also, humans in sanskrit are refered to as "Manush" meaning descendants of manu, which is again cognate with mamu.
I didn't finish the video yet, but I'll edit this comment as I catch new stuff while watching it.
P.S. I am only relating this to Hinduism because that is the religion I am most familiar with, being a Hindu.
P.P.S. If you're wondering how in god's name "s" and "r" could be the same position of articulation, the hindi/sanskrit "r" is not rolled back, you place your tongue the exact same as it would be when you're pronouncing "s".
Found your channel while I was looking up Siberian shamanism and holy shit you've created a goldmine for someone interested in the practices, history and context of these ancient religions. All of the sessions I've listened to have been super engaging and informative. Thanks for the effort man!
I am so very proud of you 🩶
Wow. You are an amazing teacher man. Like manly p hall but I can actually hear you clearly and you speak like your one of my friends.
Informative vid this and the pythagorus one
Well done! real information on the subject, exactly what I was looking for
thank you so much for this epic information!!! really well spoken, keep posting :)
You're underrated, what a cool project
Awesome vid!
The whole gender debate crap honestly is more modern than ancient. Plenty of places had male run pantheons before 1700 BC and Babylon. Just because you like the idea of the sacred feminine doesn’t mean it actually holds water when you look at the details.
Yes there are men and women sites globally. Example Australia and sites for both sexes (secret men's and women's business) It is the loss of the sacred feminine and sites that has caused a downfall. This needs to be reignited with the masculine and bringing divine union. Hence restoring cosmic law and equilibrium. Not feminism.
The biggest error we make is swinging to feminine. Instead of simply acknowledging both. It's not that hard.
@@digitalwolf8098 uh, sure dude. I’m more on the side that sacred anything is all crap and needs to be removed from how our species operates because it just holds us back.
Your ego will be your downfall
Both the Bible and polytheic societies such as the Greeks, Romans, Celts were inspired from Sumerian beliefs, those in turn probably came from stone age legends when hunter gatherers regrouped in forums to exchange goods, experience and beliefs.
So interesting and well collected information..thx so much for this spiritual study course
Fantastic!! Loved it!
Just a note: it never says in the Tanakh that giants existed before the flood. If you read it in Hebrew, it says the Nephilim were on the earth in those days but that doesn’t mean “giant” it means “fallen” or “feller.” And also, “sons of god” was reference to the children of Seth.
The giants aren’t referenced in cannon Bible until after the exodus when the Israelites fight the Anakim, the sons of Anak who were giants.
Wow interesting thanks I will look for more of your work. Thanks
I've read all of Zechariah Sitchin's Books. He put His Own Spin on the ANUNNAKI Story and made a Killing in Sales! Also read Samuel Noah Kramer's Book on the same topic. Your breakdown is Exellent Minus The Religious Aspects. 👍👍👍
Awesome my friend 😇
What's interesting is many native american beliefs seem to share alot in common, our main non christian god, in many tribes is called the god of brrath, which sounds a lot like enlil
Feminism has always been a problem since the beginning of time
Not true, it has also been a mode of great change ...
@@sarafinabell2885 nothing great at all about it. Its single handedly responsible for the collapse of population growth in every western world.. population is already unsustainable in all western countries right now and its getting worse
That's certainly an element of it but not the complete story..... Feminism saved my life... When I stumbled upon the great minds and writers of the feminist movement my whole soul was saved. The words were finally uttered of the pain I felt as a woman on this planet after years of rape, incest and mental abuse. Feminism has done more good than bad to save the lives of those abused by the patriarchy that still seems to want to destroy natural law.... We as a people have been strategically ripped out of history books, systematically raped, controlled and mentally abused for eons.... Trust me, it's something you can't possibly understand the level of pain and abuse..... Try looking deeper and wider and holistically. Cheers
Feminism is a reaction to a deep pain and loss of having men respect, protect and love their females.... End of story.... Certainly there are issues within it's structure, but you can't deny the whole reason for it's existence....
Considering the writings of Sumer, I read that the Bible was formally written about 600 BCE.
Yes you are right.
Keep it going....let's connect the dots together!
Life eternally actualizes infinite potential, because only Eternity can fully embrace Infinity.
Empty of ego (separateness) = Full of Life.
We live in a word built Uni-verse (unified verses = narrative).
When experience contains awareness there is chaos, bondage, reaction.
When awareness contains experience there is order, Sovereignty, response.
Lilith = sex for pleasure vs reproduction.
Great information. Thank you.
Merci de sous titre ,ostie!
If you look up what the word "worship" originally means in Sumerian you will immediately see the effect that corrected meaning has to your lecture...
As far as as I'm aware the word goes back to old english:
www.etymonline.com/word/worship#etymonline_v_10853
Can you provide a link or resource to dig into what you're saying?
I'm sorry. I can't readily find the source, again. The definition provided explained: When asking someone who they "worshiped," the term worshipped meant, not what we assume, but rather, "for whom do you work, or whom do you serve?" I will keep looking and update this when I find it again...
@@chuckbattle7106 before I go look at all of the ways the wor-d wor-ship is used, I'm getting a visual of the bottle of sauce, worstishire the cesspool or vat of things decomposed in a way that if it wasn't in a label people are taught to trust, would never be put on something we eat. The culture, media the base of the sauce to get us to take something without question. And we know what ship means,
I love your videos my guy
The 6 represent the gods: Creator Sustainer and Destroyer, Consciousness and Matter. The 7th is Great Mother. She's the Whole. In Hinduism they are Brahma Vishnu and Rudra, Lakshmi Saraswati and Kali. Namu is Maha Devi ... The 7th.
Would you know why youtube would have to put a wikipedia context warning for any mention of Annunaki, and not for other ancient religions?
Because people just make up silly nonsense about Annunaki.
Good job please stay non biased for the sake of studying. I respect your professionalism. Thank you.
Abzu is Consciousness. Tiamat is Matter. Lord and Lady. Shiva and Shakti. Frey and Freya. Jesus and Mary. Adam and Eve. Osiris and Isis. Yin and Yang. Ka and Ba. Mind and Body. Zoe and Bios. Etc. Matter (Mother) and Consciousness (Father).
I have a question. I don't know who to ask. Text shows the 'gods' ad blue eyes (white?). The workers were 'black heads'., from an already existing 'beast'. Enki ensiminated a female 'worker'...male g-d + female hybrid, Creating Royal(?) Family bloodline?
Workers /Slave race, is self explanatory, in their cast system...
My question is...who wete the 'Priest Class'??? on which the 'Hebrews' base their genetic 'rites' from?
Could it be from the genetic mix of female goddess (Anunnaki) and male worker? And wasn't Enki's Mother, a different species, than Anu's first wife?
Any clarity would be appreciated. 🙌
I love this paganism stuff! I love it when the woman gets on top! 51:00
At the end when you bring up Christianity wedging the stories……what do you think is the reasoning behind doing so? What do they benefit?
GR..💙💚
I'm subscribed but I still cant find the channel in my sub list I have to search to find your channel and come back. But great videos! Ive been going in depth on bronze age religions and culture and your channel has alot of exactly what I was looking for
I think that may be an algorithm thing? I have heard issues with low subscriber count channels when it comes to that. Thank you, these next few videos are gonna be right up your alley.
God breathes life into clay like we Breathe life into mojo bags
U the bomb..thanks
I came to same conclusion when watching another video on Adam and Eve based on someone else’s interpretation. Adam was seen more of Bull as you said here or Gorilla class while Eve was of the serpent class she held will power while Adam stayed a slave to god. Also there is a lot holes in Adam and Eve story like how did she know she wasn’t supposed to eat the fruit yet never had a conversation with God or Adam about it, they barely had any interactions. Also god did wipe them out of existences. It weird to the creation of the universe/evolution is sort of back up by genesis too which I find really strange…darkness to light, waters, land, sea creatures to land creatures, humans and then it was Adam & Eve. Also, Jesus comings back thing but first he has to comeback like everyone else.
I can't keep from laughing 😂😂😂
Is like someone added this
Enki is not a serpent. Yahweh is not god. Read better. No, androgen doesn't come from Greeks it's Egyptian and later Jewish.
Thank you
There are many histories
But they are talking of not the first humans
These enki and enlil
Great Video! Can I ask you a Favor? Can you please give me a Link to the Website were i can Pull up the Sumerian Text that’s been Translated myself. I’m trying to Convince my Uncle who is a True Believer of the Bible that Christianity & other Religions Pulled their Information from the Sumerians but he wants Actual Archaeologists or People who work for Museums, Solidified institutions to represent these finding to take it serious. It’ll be a Huge help if you could help me with that, Thank you 🙏
No problem, it is the last link I provided in the description of the video, here's it's alternate address:
www.worldhistory.org/article/225/enuma-elish---the-babylonian-epic-of-creation---fu/
@@cgdahlin Thank you so much!! Appreciate your Help 🙏🙏🙏
@UC90E10w1wBEir0BL25v5A1Q I’ve Been Arguing/Debating with my Uncle for about 7 Months. He Contradicted himself so much in the Debate from which he asked me to provide Proof to when I Provided it he started acting like a Spoiled Kid. About a Month ago he started asking me Questions about the Books I Read & the God Thoth & other things I Believed in. I think he’s trying to give it a Chance because before he would never care. It’s crazy you said that me & my Cousin was talking earlier today about how Intelligent The Roman Scribes were Who created the Bible were with how they Manipulated The People with the Bible. It was Genius & that’s an Understatement. They Manipulated it so well where they Literally have Peoples Heart & Souls Attached. Hopefully my Uncle wakes up but he’s 65 he’s been a Christian since the age of 27. The Physiological Aspect of the Truth could really Hurt anyone who believed in it for that long of a time span…
According to the Enuma Elish:
Abzu - Tiamat
Lamu - Lahamu
Ashar (heaven, deu) - Kishar (Earth goddess)
Anu ~ El - Ki (Earth, sumer/ Antu (akad)
(Supreme God represented by the northern ecliptic pole centered in the constellation of Drako)
snake - nake - enki - okeanus
Enki (Ea) ~ enkntation
&
Ninhursag, Nima, Nimtu, Mami=Ω
Enlil (sky, separates from Earth)
Enki kills Abzu and chains Mamu. Creates the primordial androgine or Adam&Lilith/ Eve
Lilith, layla (Nai t) is bæd
Enlil creates Eden and later on will want to get rid of the noisy humans.
Utnapishtim = Noah
Marduk, monoteísmo. (Marido...)
Bel (lord) = Baal (Enlil, Marduk & Dumuzid)
Dumuzid = Tammuz (Jesus)
The base is the same
All over
wow... :)
My name is Absu.
Obsu. A FOUNTAIN OF WATER. OUR BODIES 80-90% WATER
💞
Mate what are you talking about? 🤣
Let me clarify:
1). Ab-zu = Africa
2). Marduk made society patriarchy oriented in the Middle Eastern area because he was awarded that territory to rule after his conflict with Innanna. On the Indian subcontinent which was given to Innanna, there was a matriarchal society & in some small communities in and around India, matriarchal cultures still do exist albeit amongst relatively small groups of people.
3). En-Ki (EA) was given Africa to govern in order to oversee the mining of gold (the African continent contains more gold than anywhere else on earth). It's no coincidence that Homo Sapiens originated in Africa & yes the first humans were indeed brown skinned as attested by Adams original name in Sumerian lore = Adamuh, which literally means "He who's skin is the hue of clay", i.e: brown. There is a place called Adams Pillar in Africa which indegenous people say is the birthplace of Humanity. The Anunnaki were already in Africa mining gold in what is today South Africa, En-Ki was studying the animal/plant life & came across apes which he captured & studied. He told his idea to his half sister & the chief medical officer of the mining expedition NinHurSag & with her medical expertise & En-Ki's knowledge of genetics, they concluded that it could probably be done & they took the idea to their half brother (Heir to the throne of Nibiru, En-Ki's younger half brother, NinHurSag's half brother as well, the commander of the expedition & as he held rank 50 out of a maximum of 60 the highest ranking Anunnaki after his father and their King Anu who held rank 60 & his mother, the queen An-Tuh, who held the rank 55 ) En-Lil. The three were all half siblings through their father Anu, but all had different mothers. The reason En-Lil was the crown prince despite En-Ki being the firstborn is because En-Lil's mother was a half sister of Anu, while En-Ki's mother was a concubine. Either case En-Lil was at first hesitant, but after what was more or less a revolt by the workers in the mines & after conferring with their father Anu who told them the gold must keep coming back to Nibiru, they decided to go ahead with the idea. They used their own DNA & combined it with that of an ape in order to create a being more suitable to Earth's climate. To get their DNA which has 46 chromosomes to fit with the ape's which has 48, they fused our 3rd & 4th chromosomes (yes, look it up....) & The final touch which was a slight tweaking of our DNA by En-Ki's middle son NingeshZidda in order to give us the ability to procreate. There is a lot more to the story and it's very detailed mentioning of how through trial and error they eventually made modern humans and then split it into two different genders because the first model was androgynous.
4). En-Ki, En-Lil, NinHurSag are not actually names but titles meaning, En-Ki = Lord of the Earth, En-Lil = Lord of the command, NinHurSag = Lady of the sacred mountain.
5). The Sumerian stories are not mythology or religious fables, they are history recorded in a very detailed and fairly straightforward fashion.
6). The Anunnaki & the Iggiggi (watchers) are the same "being" but the Iggiggi were the workers at the way station to Nibiru that the Anunnaki built on Lahmu (Mars). They are called watchers because their job was literally being overseers.
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I find it interesting that you stress so hard, that before the advent of the 'patriarchy' and the GODS (stressed as you did) it was all worship of the goddesses. Now why is that interesting? Because IF we look back at humanity and use this change in the sex of the deity as the line of demarcation, we see that prior to the change from goddesses to GODS, humans were hunter-gatherers, and lived very primitive lives. One of the consequences of living a primitive life is that your life was more than just a hard scrabble existence, but was also short. Only AFTER the switch to the Patriarchy did civilization come into existence. Agriculture, settled life and increased life-span all came as a result. All of these things later led to Modern society and placing men on the moon, space travel and talk of settling on other planets like Mars. Seems to me that your argument in stressing female centric goddesses and the life the people had, is misplaced since none of us to day would gladly surrender our indoor plumbing, our easy access to food and water and longer lives to go back to the listless, pointless existence. Yeah, Patriarchy.
You do know all babies start out females, correct? Therefore, you had a vagina first😊Females are more advanced than man and mature faster than man. Females used to give birth asexually/ through parthenogenesis without man, which is why the Matriarchal Society ruled in the beginning and worked as one with nature and man. You can see a lot of matriarchal societies in the animal kingdom as well. Once men (not all) started rising up and created a patriarchal society...gender war, war with nature, murder, rape, killing animals; poisoning the air, water, earth, and food became a problem etc. Not only that, but men subjugated women and became full of pride, ego driven, and wicked. Patriarchal societies created an imbalance and this is why there’s so much problems on earth present day.
Men full of pride plagiarized the work of women Orishas and Sibyls (Sibylline Oracles) who were high priestesses, healers, midwives, and powerful women men feared. Women taught men in the beginning and men betrayed them and started calling them witches etc...Lastly, goddesses were worshipped in the beginning, which is why archaeologists found a plethora of bones and statues of women and tried to hide that fact. Look it up and be not ignorant🙏🏾
@@yahrobichosen Oh. My. Even IF (and I am not saying it is) all you claim is true, none of it debunks what I pointed out about how society (and lifespans) changed once men took over. Archaeologists have seen the differences--as I pointed out--once the change came. Longer, healthier lives. Better living conditions and while you call it subjugation I call it a partnership. Women are important to human family life--just as females are important in all societies--well, let's look at a couple of these female dominated societies before I finish that thought. Ants, Termites, and even naked mole rats all have female centric societies, and ALL of those members who are NOT the Queen at mindless slaves. Now that I think of it, over the last few decades--since women in human society have pretty much come to dominate our government--we see that they want all humans to be subjugated by Government. It is like the idea of Freedom, Personal Responsibility and Independence are all things that Men value while (as we see from the Bees and others) women simply want CONTROL. OF everything. Go figure.
What an incredibly ignorant opinion
Not amazed.
Patriarchy? zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ancient Sumerian mesopotamians we're highly *Patriarchal.*
@@mr.ComnandoSpawn sure were, this guy has no idea wtf he’s talking about
No... you have it backwards, Sumerian mythology borrowed from older Biblical sources. First off, the Garden of Eden or Elda is not in Mesopotamia, the Babylonians placed it at the Far East just like in the Bible. Secondly "Sumer" is an unknown location that scholars can't seemingly determine or pinpoint on a map but when you look up the etymology of it, which is where the word "Summer" then Samaria which has a root word of "Samar" it gives you the same location of extreme far east as well. In Hebrew the letter S, Shin means fire, literally the Sun. Samar then which is where the words Samaria and Sumerians came from means where the Sun rises or in front of the Sun in the extreme East, the tablet of Shamash expands on this further as well. Look at old maps where ancient Greek and Babylonian cartographers placed the source of the 4 rivers coming from the Garden of Eden or Paradise... South East Asia, the Sun doesn't rise in the middle east, ancient Babylonians, Sumerians, Akkadians and Hebrews know this only people who doesn't understand their geographical mindset insists the false understanding you're trying to teach.
What about the gods of sumerian mythology, enki, enlil and an? Why did jesus say that no one has seen the face of his father yet in the new testament, we see that moses saw the face of god.