Clarification for 32:04. Some Hermeticists call the Christian God the ‘demiurgos’ (the Artisan), while others call the true immaterial God the ‘demiurgos’... you know, just to confuse us. Well, for the purposes of this video, the name isn’t important. What matters is that, as a Hermeticist, Marx is looking to overcome the ‘material’ God and get to the true ‘immaterial’ God. So if in doubt, just ignore where I said “and they call him the Demiurgos”. While I did criticise Francis Wheen in the video, I actually found his book to be very in-depth, and would still recommend it for anyone interested in doing further reading. Jone’s book on Karl Marx is very apologetic and is, therefore, less of a priority. Kengor’s book (The Devil and Karl Marx) is good if you’re interested in the Christian perspective of this topic. For any socialist or communist who has realised that there may be a problem with the Marxist or socialist ideology and would like further help in understanding the problem, I’d recommend the following books (in this order): Muravchik’s “Heaven on Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism”. Henry Hazlitt’s “Economics in One Lesson”. Leonard Peikoff’s “The Cause of Hitler’s Germany”. (Yes, it is relevant.) Thomas Sowell’s “Basic Economics”. L.K. Samuels’s “”Killing History”. Murray Rothbard’s “America’s Great Depression”. Ludwig von Mises’s “Omnipotent Government”. Ludwig von Mises’s “Socialism”.
Women like Jenny make me scratch my head. They chase the "bad boy", and then complain when life with the "bad boy" turns out to suck; and they do this as they make fun of the "nice guy". 🙄
He is STILL being worshipped as a god. Thats the biggest travesty. And its mainly done by the exact same people who were just like him. Lazy people that come from privilege backgrounds. Who do not want to work for a living.
7 minutes in, and we already know today Marx would be the top mod of r/antiwork on reddit. Resents the idea of work, relies entirely on parents for money, resents religion, has to be reminded by his mother to bathe at least once a week...
On a lighter note: A man goes to his rabbi and says “Rabbi, you never guess what happened to me. My son left the house and became a Christian! What am I to do?” The rabbi embraces the man and cries “You never guess what happened to mé. My son left the house too and also became a Christian!” “Best we pray to God and ask for his help” So they asked for wisdom in prayer, and God replied “You never guess what happened to mé…..!”
I've never Worked a Job before and am Always in Debt and Never have enough Money and Live Entirely on Others giving Me Money to Support Me but I have used My Free Time to Solve All Economic Problems and formulated the Perfect Economic and Social System. Now give up Your Entire Life and Follow My Obviously Brilliant Ideas.
Please read MARX carefully he was an intellectual an intellectual that can easily read classic griece language and done his Phd I think who ever said that little knowledge is dangerous thing was truly right
@@AmanitaWoodrose well be practical his father was a successful lower and his wife brother was minister in strong state of Germany he was completed mankind who wants to change this world in short MARX was just a mind and nothing else he always said us not me ok dear and please carefully read his claim that's are still prevailing in bourgeoisie society
@@TheImperatorKnight Lovely, sir. By the way, I love your videos. Several times, I find the ideas you present strange, but they start making sense when I think them through. Being from India, we were mainly taught facts, and never deeply about the ideologies and philosphily in school. But yes, some people do tend to pick up ideologies from their surroundings.
Marx was a brutish, brooding, and bitter poet. If more people knew the truth about him and his character they would promptly dismiss his poisonous philosophies. P.S. If socialists and communists were truly operating on a 'higher spiritual plane', they wouldn't need to deceive others or force their worldview on others.
There purely materialist. I used to think because I hate materialist I used to be a socialist. Now I see I was just a spiritualist socialist care about materialism more than any capitalist.
This whole presentation reminds me of my sister in law's ex-husband. A self described philosopher who would read environmental poetry to everyone. Wouldn't work, barely took care of himself hygienically, drank too much, and was profoundly anti-Christian. He's trans now.
Most socialists I know are extremely hard working people. Many of them work in healthcare, I know a few engineers among them too. Despite these grueling schedules they still spend much of their free time organizing political activities. Everything from canvassing to improvised soup kitchens. It is a level of dedication that I could only aspire to, and I believe that the level of public service and selflessness in my experience is matched only by the best of religious charities.
@@TonyGModesto there are a few that are true idealist socialists, something even Lenin poorly understood himself. Most seem to be in it for personal gain. All but one of my socialist friends and acquaintances barely work for whatever reasons and dont seem to understand what they hate. Some even seem to fit the bill of needing to be taken care of by the state as if a parent, even though they should be able to provide for themselves. Especially the activists i know seem to be wellfare leeches because they obviously could work since activism takes time and effort, even alot of travel. But instead of being productive one just sits his ass on the street and thinks hes saving the world that way. I feel you’re lucky of knowing a few good ones frankly. Do they do stuff too like dividing their income equally? There is only one group i know off in this country that actually applies communist economics to their paychecks themselves. Its so rare.
@@TonyGModesto my mum was a member of the British communist party, she was also a midwife in the NHS and worked pretty hard, but she divorced my dad, remarried an old rich guy who died within 6 months and she inherited all his money then she retired very early and remarried again to a guy half her age. Her dad was also a member of the British communist party, he was one of the founders of communism in this country, he was a dock worker in Glasgow, he was known for going on strike all the time and was a conscientious objector during the war. MY dad did national service in Singapore fighting the communists, he was gutted when later on his wife joined the communist party.
I've heard that Marx was a parasite. I knew that Marx was a parasite. But, no matter how many times its presented to me, I can barely fathom just how much he sucked.
What is even more annoying is that he were given so much help while so many others do not even get close to the amount of help he gets. Once again society helps out those who do not deserve it, and let those that do fall into misery.
I think you are missing that Marx is afraid of being shamed by his family. He simply didn't want to hear what a disgrace he is. The only way to trick himself into believing himself independent was to block out or bully anyone who confronted him with his failings.
I’m just halfway through so it might come up later, but it is good to mention that through his mother, Karl was also related to the Philips family (yes, from the multi-billion euro multinational company). The founders of the modern Philips company were his cousins and their father (Karl’s uncle) was a rich tabacco trader from the Netherlands. The Philips family sent their nephew some pocket money every now and then when he asked for it. So, while many people are aware that Engels was rich and sent Karl lots of money, I don’t think many people know Marx was surrounded by people that were absolutely loaded with money. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of people around him were actually very rich. It is probably another reason why Jenny married him, thinking his family and close friends could turn his fate around... It is therefore also not a surprise that a lazy slouch like him would end up so envious when that never materialised…
He was like Santa's evil twin from an alternate universe. Santa comes in to leave you presents. Karl comes in to take your sh..., squat for half a year while leeching off of you and complaining about how you should be earning more money, because then _he_ could get more stuff from you.
Concerning 10:25 how much Heinrich is complaining about Karl spending 700 thalers, I did a little math to accurately figure out just how much that equates to. From Wurtemberg's historical records, the average stonemason in 1835 made around 5 florins a day. Assuming a 6 day work week, no working on the sabbath, comes to a clean 30 Florins/week. 52 weeks in a year makes for a yearly income of approximately 1560 Florins a year. Conversion of Florins to Thalers is 2 Florins = 1 Thaler. So average salary for a stonemason working 6 days a week, every week in 1830's Germany was 780 Thaler. 700 Thaler is 46.7 weeks worth of work. Heinrich is effectively saying his son was frivolously spending nearly a year's worth of an average workman's wages while being unmployed.
Thanks. To make it a little more relatable, the average American construction worker (I think an effective analog to old stonemason) makes ~$40,750 a year. It would be like someone unemployed spending $36,000 on cigarettes, booze, and ladies of the night. Absolutely insane spending.
@@johnsanko4136 I'd say 1800s Stonemason as a profession was a very respected and well paid profession. More along the lines of "white collar professional" today would be. so maybe $100,000 to $150,000 a year???
After your explanation of Marx's character, I finally understand what is wrong with most the leftists. These just cracked his trick and try to emulate him. When I was a leftist, I was constantly at a loss why the other left-wing guys and girls tried to make me hate my job (which I loved), my parents (whom I have always respected for teaching me how to think for myself despite the altruist indoctrination they themselves received) and even the organisational activity (for I was 'too boring' in trying to build a trusted network of encrypted mail and IM communication in the Marxist circles around me). They don't want to make the revolution, they want to have a revolution to be made in their name, and everyone else to be sacrificed in it.
They want someone to foot the bill for their emulation of Marx, the spending, the partying, and flopping whenever and wherever they please. They don't want to work for anything. Unfortunately they don't understand that in a socialist state they will be worked to the bone, and all the money and goods will go to someone who lays about all day but belongs to a more favored class
I don't think they actively try to emulate him. For that they'd need to know about him. Their behaviour is just a natural product of their childish egos and beliefs.
@schizotypal4966… I'm interested to know why you think any of what you wrote has anything to do with Marxism. Can you quote something Marx wrote or said that makes any such connection? Tbh, I think you may find that difficult. Marx would view the contemporary left as completely insane, corrupt and ridiculous. In a word, today's leftists have nothing in common with the ideas of Karl Marx. Prove me wrong by quoting something. Not some made-up Internet quote, though. Cite the book and page number.
That’s the thing- YOU like your job, YOU have a supportive family, YOU have the ability to engage in your hobbies and interests. But the world isn’t all about YOU. So when you make such a generalized statement based off your limited perspective of the world, it can be very easy to believe people are starting conflict for fame and glory. You just aren’t one of the many people experiencing the injustices that inspire revolution. Note: I am not a Marxist. I 100% believe the “leftists” from your chats were trolling jerks. I also do not want to dismiss any personal struggles you’ve experience. You can’t know what you don’t know. But you have the power and intelligence to do better for yourself and others. Don’t waste it!
Sadly what happens. Enablers financially sponsor bad behavior. Those they sponsor abuse and use the Enablers like a parasite. If he existed today the CPS would be knocking at his door for not providing for his children.
Engels was rotten to the core and if I remember correctly he was just as lazy as Marx, forced by his father to work for the family empire so as to not lose his inheritance.
Critics make 15-35 minute long videos often relying on a handful of sources and resort almost entirely on reciting often without context. TIK makes book long video essays of 30min-5 hour long videos with a welcomed amount of citations and a hefty sum of sources. Not just reciting but also explaining and discussing. Then they wonder why it isn't as effective.
@@Inquisitor6321 Happened recently. Not even a week ago someone posted a video on Capitalism and the Economy of Nazi Germany. Same user posted videos directly critizing TIK so you can assume it's in direct opposition. However issue with the video is, it doesn't explain much. 90% if not more is just reciting citations without much context. Obviously bringing up stuff TIK has addressed without addressing TIK's arguments. Basically coming off as someone reciting the bible. Using Toozes and Landa predominantly as that bible.
There are some people ("A LOT"?) that have some books (Again....."A LOT"??) that the primary purpose of which is either JUST "decoration" on some shelf, AND/OR....To show others how "intellectually endowed" they are, or that they are "True Believers" in whatever such a book says or espouses. And there is a good chance that such books are not even read to START WITH. Or understood even IF read. You should check out MY personal library if you don't believe me.🙄🤣
But TIK, you are wrong! Marx didnt even invent communism, there were others who inspired my specific version of socialism. Regardless, real socialism hasnt been tried and the biographies of his life are written by his enemies, they cant be trusted!! You should only read the stuff i approve of, even if they might prove excatly what you said!! You are wrong because you havent even read this one specific interpretation of Marx!!
Questioner: Then we have crusaders from Orion coming to this planet for mind control purposes. How do they do this? _Ra: As all, they follow the Law of One observing free will. Contact is made with those who call._ _Those then upon the planetary sphere act much as do you to disseminate the attitudes and philosophy of their particular understanding of the Law of One, which is service to self. These become the elite._ _Through these, the attempt begins to create a condition whereby the remainder of the planetary entities are enslaved by their own free will._ Ra Material (1981)
I recently read The Communist Manifesto, I was quite shocked by how little substance it actually contained. It was written like a runway plan a teenager concocted after fighting with his parents. No substance, just ranting with a few bullet points. The fact it made such waves is shocking, but on another hand, it’s not. There was a lot of economic strife/anger when it was first published.
Didn't you find it shocking how much it called to centralize the economy to the state? While communists consistently proclaim that as "state-capitalism"?
To quote Robert .E Heinlein: "Karl Marx is the disheveled old mystic of das capital". He was a fool and a hypocrite that even believed in slavery, who was then buried in a private mosulium, because he didn't want to be buried in a state provided plot with the plebs he supposedly fought for. A mosulium by the way, that you have to PAY to view...something else that's supposedly against his teachings. Anyone who believes in this guy's ideology shouldn't be allowed to vote, let alone dictate to anyone else what fair and just mean.
Sadly Robert Heinlein was himself a feminist (which makes him an idiot), in Starship Troopers he says that women make better pilots than men and during the 1980s wrote a series of essays, in one of them argued that men should be stripped of the write to vote as payback for women not being able to in the past. Heinlein was a dumbass who was something of a savant when it came to physics which is why he had some good technological worldbuilding in an otherwise shitty written novel (which I found so boring that I head to force myself to read it over the course of a month).
@Jaeger_Bishop… Go back to bed. You're making everyone ill with your ignorant know-nothing diatribe. You are not alone. Lots of YT idiots think it's cool to cast aspersions on Marx. It's a religion. I'm still waiting for any of them to quote something Marx said or wrote that backs up their ludicrous 'comments' about him.
How on earth can a father (family provider) leave the corpse of a child in a back room and depend on the charity of someone to lend him £2 to bury the corpse? That’s insane!
It’s so absurd to think his wife left being an aristocrat to put up with all that, he made himself the center of the universe like a black hole dragging everyone down with him. He was far worse than any caricature of selfishness could come up with, absolute refusal to work, keeps getting free money from everyone around him and wasting it on himself immediately while his family suffers, wasn’t even nice to the people giving it to him or anyone else for that matter and couldn’t even be faithful to his wife? Literally a cult leader, the worst of the worst kind of scam artist. His followers reflect him perfectly
yet still, we all don't unserstand Marx and communism hasn't ever really for real been tried honestly in ernest, I swear and capitalism obviously oppresses ye good ole socalistas, right..right?
@@publichearing8536it's like they've created something is impossible and illogical that every time they try to achieve it, they simply fail because their goals are not realistic and are clouded in a shroud of mysticism deeper than even that of the most devout Christian. I dislikr Christian Marxists, "we do this out of love, we love you so much that we're going to persecute you and alienate you unto you accept our love" Is the gist of it.
Numbers 31:17 "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him." God commanding Moses and the Hebrews to commit genocide. Yielding to theocracy and the sado-masochistic virtues of an unyielding dictator doesn't help anyone, Marx was right about that.
@@isaakmorse6044 wrong, their parents worked for the kids to have easier lives, the kids arent mooching of society, just their parents and their parents are okay with it, you arent entitled to their parents money, work for your own
The problem is many who believes in this BS thinks they will be on the top after the revolution. Only to be surprised when they find themselves against a wall.
@@jespermuhrmannthe hundreds of millions that died under socialist regimes. Be it Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, the Kim family, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, or the many other dictators using socialism as a means to enforce power.
@@Sneed-pb9cz because the number doesn't make sense. Especially when you go from the India East India Company to 1947, it would be from 1600-1947. That is 347 years. To assume the 35million is the correct answer, that would be roughly 100k killed a year.
None. How can Marxism kill people if Marxism as a political/economic system has never existed? The so-called communist countries bear no resemblance whatsoever to the type of world Marx and Engels proposed.
They should make a Terminator movie, where Tech-Com send a lone warrior back in time to eliminate Karl Marx as his writings indirectly lead to the creation of Skynet. So Skynet sends a Terminator back through time to protect Marx.
This kind of tribalism isn’t helpful to anyone. I get that it’s funny to make fun of people we don’t like. But it is not constructive. The goal is to get people to realize that it is good to embrace responsibility voluntarily. Socialism/communism give people a perceived solution to very real problems in our society. The idea that all socialist people are bad and lazy people is the exact same mindset that marxists have about the bourgeoisie. You can change peoples minds if you provide a better solution to their problems.
@@nebwachamp Sometimes they do, and think they're on a holy crusade to convince the chat that they're right. Happened years back when some guy in China saw a video outside the great firewall about Taiwan, then tried to disprove it like a good pawn. He was then punished by the state for watching unapproved media.
@@orksy2935 to be honest, here the majority of people will be ostracized for having a different view. People from Taiwanese who made fun of Chinese who have different views is no different when a Taiwanese being made fun of saying anything negative in China majority website. You're not willing to share the other side's perspective. Why would they want to have a conversation with you.
@@ihatecabbage7270 In this case the other side have been told lies, either because they believe the conmen who tell them, or it is the mandated by the state and doing otherwise will quickly lead to health problems usually in the form of a struggle session. The latter have no choice but to obey or do the bare minimum, while the former do and act abhorrently anyway, just like Marx himself.
Usually when someone has lots of children it's for the purpose of running a family business and or a farm, my grandfather was one of 12 siblings working on a German pig farm in Ohio. Karl Marx literally did the opposite, he decided it was appropriate to bring more children into his twisted life to have them suffer and watch his wife's life deteriorate right before his eyes as she had to deal with the loss of her children dying from the conditions he brought them into and didn't give a damn.
I hear about the fantastic stories Marx told his children, and I wonder, why the hell did he never write them down and publish them? He could have at least made something of himself THAT way!
If he became a fantasy author he'd probably be much more well regarded than he is now, atleast then you could say he contributed something back to the world that was positive.
The general ill health of the Marx family also suggests something else. The deaths of the children follow a typical pattern of the mother having "sub clinical syphallis". This means that although she was infected she didn't neccesarily exhibit any symptoms. The children are born weak and don't thrive and usually die within the first 5 years. Usually the woman can be restored to "uninfected" health after somewhere between 4 & 6 years. Jenny had, it would appear, at least two "bouts" of infection. The first was, presumably, from Karl when they got married. She recovered and after having her daughters was infected again. This would also make sense of Karl's symptoms at the end of his life. Just a thought.
Now see, here's the thing: I have no job, and am probably unemployable. I'm a writer (tabletop RPG supplements) and I haven't published anything in way too long. I am essentially leeching off of my parents. And yet, just by the fact that I have a budget, and _really try to stick to it, as hard as I can,_ I'm actually in a decent spot monetarily while I try to get my shit together. I know how money works, and I know how to _not_ spend beyond my fukken means! Also, I'm aware that all of those things are _bad_ things, and I _want_ to overcome them. I just don't know _how,_ and it kinda pisses me off.
Why would you be unemployable? Do you have a disability? Assuming you physically can't get a job and must remain a writer, I have a suggestion for you. I don't have a lot of spare time, but recently I've been playing solo-rpgs like Ironsworn: Starforged. Just got Four Against Darkness too. If you check out the solo-roleplaying sub-Reddit, you'll see that there seems to be a demand for well-written, simple mechanic systems with good world-building potential. Well, if there's a demand, you should fill it. Set yourself a goal of writing up an entire rule system in one day (which will force you to keep it simple). Then revise on the second day, and do some play testing on the third, fourth and fifth days. Revise once more, then come up with a setting. Add in some art (maybe even AI created), publish as a PDF, then advertise on the relevant subreddits and forums. In theory, you could have a published product within a week or two, especially if you're unemployed as you've got nothing else going on. You probably won't make a ton of money with this first product (unless it goes viral), but it will give you experience and show you that wealth can be created. Your wealth and life are entirely in your hands.
@@TheImperatorKnight This is similar to what I tried with my own writing, unfortunately I quickly run into writer's block despite being passionate for writing. It also sounds like I have the same problem as Marx when he got stuck on little details that could be edited quickly (I only get this for bigger projects), which is disconcerting, although I at least have a job.
@TheImperatorKnight Any chance you could do a video to help those of us with severe disabilities and in poverty? (I have autism and multiple sclerosis).
The capitalist Talmud actually : he explains quitte accurately what a (preferably Jewish) entrepreneur must do to maximize his profit and control over (preferably non-Jewish but also lesser Jewish parents who will never make it) masses : essentially what he describes are accounting tricks.
I always wondered why champions of Marxism almost never talk about Marx's personal life and history. His actions might make us think less of him, and that can't be allowed. It might lead to people questioning his ideas. If people start questioning his ideas...😮😮
Because it's not relevant and cherry picked out of context idiocy like this isn't relevant. Most philosophers, elite etc of the 19th and early 20th century were absolutely shitty people, should Churchhill statues be torn down because he was a degenerate pervert? Also this crap is just extremely biased. How is philosophical work for paying patrons, "not working"? How can you claim the man who literlaly wrote the most influential philosophical works of modern history, as well as invented the fields of political economy, sociology and documentary reporting, and was praised for his work even by Lincoln someone who was "lazy" and "didn't work"? According to rightoids, mooching off a trust fund and shares is "working", but being arguably the most influential scholar of modern history isn't because you are funded by patrons.
Now we're giving around red pills Keynes wasn't an economist either, he took one course of economics and yet the current mainstream economic thought is based on this guy. You should do him sometime in fact.
Yes, especially as Keynes himself was technically a communist himself! The widely held belief that he was a liberal whilst advocating eugenic policies is ridiculous!
I actually have respect for Keynes because he was an extremely prudent and competent value investor ala Ben Graham or Buffet, who handily outperformed the UK market with his fund.
@@tomislavvinkovic1955 Haha. Even the best of us make mistakes... Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I invested in Russian companies that got sanctioned into the ground. I bought one for the 1/10th book value that was trading at the same price as its very next dividend payment, after a 90% decline. I figured I'd collect the dividend and break even in 30 days. Almost did so, but they were blocked from making payments and the entire board resigned. I still don't know if that was a wise bet or not -- I did under estimate the likelihood of sanctions, but if I repeated that same trade in similar circumstances, and it worked out just once even, I could easily make up for 9 other total losses. And if it worked out just once more net of that, I'd have a ten bagger. Anyway, my point is, at least Keynes got his hands dirty and actually engaged in the activity he theorized about, even if I think a lot of his conclusions were flawed. Marx never put his ideas to the test, or sought any kind of real world experience or validation, likely because he knew it would all fall flat if he did. He just sat in his high (filthy) tower indulging in his own fantasy and ego, and (very occasionally and inefficiently) churning out rhetoric without any kind of supporting theory or reason behind it. That anyone can read his work and think that he had any kind of insight or intelligence is beyond me. Before reading it, I was always lead to believe that he was somehow insightful and brilliant, but just had some mistaken ideas like the labor theory of value. When I actually read it, I was taken aback by how intellectually bankrupt it is. You can clearly tell that he knew nothing, and put zero work into actually asking or answering complex questions. It's nothing but the fantasy of someone with a superiority complex, envious and resentful of the world, and attempting to justify it with baseless rhetoric that he attempts to pass off as philosophy. It's sad, and utterly astounding that anyone takes him seriously at all. Keynes was at least intelligent and capable of making actual reasoned arguments, had real world experience, and put actual money behind his ideas (well, sort of. He invested based on micro security analysis, not macro economics. And he was wealthier for it I'm sure -- as there are plenty of wealthy security analysts, and very very few wealthy economists). Anyway, my point is just that Keynes and Marx are apples and oranges. You can compare Keynes to someone like Milton Friedman, but Marx you can at best be compared to the homeless cocaine addict on the street corner.
Marx in his book : So society will go as feudalism > capitalism > socialism History : more feudalistic and less capitalistic poorer countries tries socialism more
Finally finished this video, being at work I could only listen to it in increments. I'm honestly shocked how terrible Marx was as a person. Not just toward his rivals, but toward his friends and family, if you can call them friends. This man would be considered an abuser in the modern age, treating friends like pockets who he manipulated to line his own pocket, treated his family like dirt and seemed to have little sympathy even for his Wife/Children. Based on what you're posted from Jenny, likely convinced her of "His" victimhood so she'd not blame him for their struggles. This is inherently tragic. If he was alive today, his children would have been taken away by the Child Protection Agency/Service.
I read 'The Communist Manifesto', and two articles about his life; and despite having a socialist/unionist father, I came to the conclusion he was a smell, lazy, useless jerk. My Dad agreed, lol. Did we forget his 'other' children...
I have a suspicion that Marx didn't see himself as lazy because he thought that putting any effort towards anything makes one a hard worker even if that "work" isn't for the benefit of any immediate needs. He lacked the maturity to realize that to make an income you need to do work as a means to an end even if it means doing something that you'd preferably not do in favor of something else you'd enjoy more (but isn't profitable), he seemed to be under the impression that all the effort he spent writing articles/dissertations and spending a lot of time sitting on his chair doing pointless never ending revisions to things he'd already wrote makes him entitled to some sort of reward, because in his mind that was "work". To him work isn't doing something for someone in exchange for a reward for the services you gave to the person who hired you, but rather it's instead doing something you are very passionate about that after spending enough time on would lead to people rewarding you for out of "respect for your efforts" as if one had acquired the ability to become a one man charity donation box or had made money grow on trees/rain from the sky (EDIT: Which I just realized, is the "Labor Theory of Value" in a nutshell). His level of maturity when it comes to career choices had far more in common with that of a 6 year old who "wants to be an astronaut when he grows up" than the pragmatism of any adult jobseeker, and I think this is reflected when he said how in Communism that one could change their careers every hour of everyday being a fisherman by morning and a critic by night and something entirely different the next day if one feels like it, just like a kid who dresses like a Firefighter but later dresses as a Pirate. I also think that his narcissism made him so in love with his writings and felt that what he made was so brilliant that he felt entitled to recognition and rewards from others and couldn't understand why anyone didn't appreciate what he made as much as he did, it's the same mindset that Hitler had with his art, doing to an art school to get validation for what he already made rather than wanting to improve his craft or get constructive criticism.
Uhm... no, marx didn't think that everybody who does what they enjoy is 'entitled' to compensation. Like... what would that even mean? This is lightyears away from everything marx ever wrote or cared about. Marxism isn't a theory about who is entitled to money.
@@danJAHrous I honestly have to disagree. Due to the indoctrination of the young, people in their early life can still be saved from socialism, but after they reached their 30s it's all lost.
The idea of YHWH as the demiurge is also a central tenant of Luciferian theology That in the garden, Lucifer was just trying to give humans enlightenment Etc It's just curious to me how everything ties together
It's kind of the fundamental conflation of "dictatorship" with "tyranny". Dictators wield singular power, whilst tyrants abuse power. The two are not mutually inclusive. God is the ultimate dictator, Lucifer the ultimate tyrant.
Socialism itself can hope to exist only for brief periods here and there, and then only through the exercise of the extremest terrorism. For this reason it is secretly preparing itself for rule through fear and is driving the word 'justice' into the heads of the half-educated masses like a nail so as to rob them of their reason... and to create in them a good conscience for the evil game they are to play. - Nietzsche
I mean both ideologies are proven to be evil and ruin lives. You seem to not know Nietzsche caused him to go insane. And both were just puppets of the Jesuit order of the Catholic Church. Much like Voltaire in France.
This has really challenged me. I've been listening for a long time, but this is definitely a rewind. So much to unpack. Love it. I have an uneducated question. I always thought that Capitalism was a prejoritve for the Free Market? Where did I learn this from I wonder? Those Jew hating snake oil salesmen have always given me pause since I was a child. My family is now falling for superstitious nonsense, everything is some insane babble about end times and conspiracy theories. Democracy seems like a bad idea but people keep saying it as if it's the water of life. The whiskey is getting to me now but let me tell you, this is one of the most thought provoking vids I've encountered. I'm just a white trash yankee from Massachusetts ❤
"I'm just a white trash yankee from Massachusetts" I'm glad my video made you think, but don't speak down of yourself, even if tongue-in-cheek! You must look after your self-esteem. And I'm not the first to deliberately separate "capitalism" from "the free market", but I'm maintaining this stance now because, like you, it makes people think. As soon as someone says they're a "capitalist", people immediately think they're for the current system, since the current system is capitalist. But when I say "I'm against capitalism, and we need a free market", that takes people off guard, and they start questioning the narratives they've been hearing, which is precisely what they need to be doing.
This makes SO much sense! I could never understand why every single Marxist I’ve met was SUCH an awful human being. It’s a whole mindset. I never realised just how terrible Marx actually was.
And his description matches the one TIK gives in this video. He was just a resentful lazy bum and a parasite, just like the wicked spawn of his ideas today.
I don't think they're mutually exclusive. Also, TIK's sources are largely different. I highly recommend C&C by Sowell. It's my favorite of his big 3 parter.
Finally finished the video to be honest, it makes the colossal and catastrophic failure of communism even more astonishing and baffling How did this guy even manage to get this far ? How did he get so many followers ? How did he manage to get such a strong psychological hold on so many ? He would make most gurus and cult leaders look like amateurs. I know some of the other leaders had a charisma of sort (for example, hitler was apparently known for his blue eyes and his stare had effects on people), so I wonder what Marx's secret was... Well, at the same time, this video really makes me want to stop wasting my time, and a get a move on. You're always fairly inspiring in that regard, TIK.
@@TomasFunes-rt8rd As it so happens, I have a pedestal fan behind me right now. I'll be darned, it works great! Given the practical sound effects techniques of the day, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that's exactly how they voiced the Daleks.
This explanation of marx explains why people love marxism so much. I was drawn to marxism by my own resentment but once I saw it in the other socialists I was disgusted. Marxism is a big mirror held up to my own ugliness and confronting it was liberating for me. Im not free from my own inclinations but I will forever endeavour not to make others endure them.
You give the disciples of Marx too much credit as human beings. They haven't been fooled by him, they are kindred spirits of his. It isn't that they don't know how awful a person he was, they simply don't want to look into his life lest they find they're actually gazing into a mirror already knowing what's there.
@@Ffkslawlnkn how can you actually confess your belief in a oppressive, murderous and evil ideology that is as bad if not worse than the tyrants that ran Germany from 1933 to 1945 without feeling massive shame and guilt? Society needs to treat you just like we should treat the scum storm troopers. Both ideologies are evil and you should really reconsider your views.
@@Ffkslawlnkn To be a communist is to be like Marx. That is to say willfully ignorant of reality, self-hating, hateful of achievement and of generally vile character. Since the basic idea of capitalism was invented by the first two guys to willingly exchange items without violence, long before Smith existed, your question is moot.
@@hq21 as it turns out, that you agree with somebody doesn't mean that you share their character traits. Surprising, isn't it? 😂😂 Also, capitalism doesn't mean trading, just as communism doesn't mean cooperating.
I always wondered why the Afghan communists were often sons of traditional landlords. Now I know - communism was an upgrade, from plantation prince to bureaucrat.
The similarities of Marx, and so many other prominent Socialists and common Overt Narcissists is super striking. Has anyone ever taken a serious look into the apparent link between the two?
@@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf You mean the "Concerning pattern" video or his response video after that? I watched both but while he got very close to addressing it, I don't think he took it head-on. I get the feeling that TIK is laying the evidence on the table, but not calling it out outright. I think he's doing this to let viewers come to their own conclusion, which is the right thing to do. It's just that it's impossible for those of us who've experienced NPD first-hand to watch these videos, learn about these people, and not put the picture together. However, people unfamiliar with NPD may be unable to come to a conclusion because they don't understand how that mind works and can't see the link. I don't remember Sowell calling it out straight either. But a mind like his must certainly see the link. And I get the feeling TIK also knows full well what he's looking at.
These people usually were directly influenced by each others work. At this point most of them had similar ethnic background, but the liberal thinkers before them (so the enlightenment guys) were usually either lapsed Calvinists or theologically atheist/mystic mumbo jumbo, some funding always came from a certain group as they supported pluralism for obvious reasons (and have always seen bribery as a decent method of creating a favourable environment), but it's only once their own children started secularising and becoming liberal revolutionaries that any sort of firm network of finance was set up to promote it, and even then it was often a means of support by family unless revolution looked to actually be on the cards. Lenin got massive funding from them, but only in 1917, before that he mostly lived within the existing socialist network.
@@captainotto Your reply is spot on. TIK presents the evidence and his opinion/conclusions, but he leaves the viewer to make their own, which is why he leaves the sources. Thomas Sowell didn't directly adress the issue either, but you can gleam, from listening to him whenever he speaks of what he call "The Anointed" that he has reached similar, if not the same, conclusions that TIK or James Lindsay have.
This is one of the very best, most intellectually stimulating, and profoundly educational channels on TH-cam. The presenter is a brilliant teacher, and I deeply appreciate that he cites the sources for everything that he asserts. These discourses are invariably first-class academic essays. If there's a silver lining to the dark cloud of having been forced to spend months recovering from a major surgery, it's the fact that I've had the time to listen to, and learn from, superb content such as this.
The Google censor bar is high if the word "fetish" or "fetishism" is censored. Not a swear word, or a word invoking hate speech in context. Humans set the bar for the Google AI censor. How ridiculous.
So a lazy person with vices like bad hygiene, heavy drinking and smoking, who was terrible with money, wrote “Capital” and some thought he was a genius… how interesting!
This is honestly just horrible, the amount of misery this man wrought upon everyone he knew, let alone the untold millions his writings victimised...it beggars belief.
Exactly. Isn't it amazing how clueless people can be? And actually defend marx, I don't know how they even tie their shoes across the street, that kind of ignorance is actually a miracle of nature
One point about "capitalists" and "proletariat", Marx didn't invent those concept in the 1850. They were invented by David Ricardo in "On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation" published in 1817. In this book Ricardo also speaks of "diminishing marginal productivity of capital", and of a third category of economic actors, distinct from capitalists and proletariat, he calls "landowners". Ricardo main point in 1817 was to say that, in the long term, capitalists' diminishing marginal profits will ruin them (Ricardo capitalists can be described as merchants and proto-industrialists...), and enrich landowners (mainly wealthy land-owners who owned huge agricultural domains in the 1810...), while "proletariat's" resources will be dragged down by population increase, their salaries being more or less indexed to the revenues of the poorest farmers, those who exploit the worst field and pay only symbolic rents. I didn't read that book (only exerts..), but I understand that Ricardo, who was later (1819) a Whig MP, was very concerned by the the 1815 corn laws, which the Whigs finally succeeded to abrogate in 1846. The main point of "On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation" is to try to demonstrate, that, if those laws are not abrogated, UK economics will self-destruct because of a confiscation of resources by wealthy agricultural landowners at the expanses of merchants & proto-industrialists ("capitalists") and hand-workers ("proletariat"). I don't know if Ricardo was perfectly honest in his economic reasoning. On can argue that corn-laws were a big advantage for British aristocracy and a serious problem for merchants & proto-industrialists, because they increased wheat's costs and made landowners richer and hand-workers and/or merchants & proto-industrialists poorer, because hand-workers couldn't feed as well unless their salaries were raised, and obviously Ricardo and the Whigs were british merchants friends and british aristocrats foes on that kind of subjects. Concerning Marx "Capital", I understand that Marx's decision to write this book date from 1844. Corn's laws existed from 1815 to 1846, in 1844, Whigs were very close from convincing parliament to abrogate them, which certainly infuriated british aristocracy and made them eager to find any king of "economic literature" that might contradict Ricardo's widely acclaimed book. Fittingly Marx "demonstration" is that long-term British economics will be unsustainable, because it will enrich "capitalists" and ruin "proletariat" up to a breaking point, and that neither the con-laws nor the landowner will play any part in this story. It looks like an answer to Ricardo 1817 book, I guess it would have been more useful to Marx real friends (British aristocrats ?....) if it could have been published in 1844 instead of 1867. It might have been something of a paid assignment, Marx finally delivered it 21 years after those laws were abrogated, which might explain why he doesn't seem to have been paid very much for that work....
A bit of a problem with Marx and wishing he had never happened, is his philosophy was so obvious, pretty shallow, and in line with a lot of what was in the air at the time. We would've just gotten another version of that stupidity. That it still gets any traction at all, knowing what we know, is mind-boggling.
I was thinking the same thing, because all of the shit made by Marx and the woke fools that he inspired were allowed to proliferate in our society with the permission of our politicians and bureaucrats, and if they were fine with that rubbish ruining society that shows that they had the same petty and elitist mindset as the Marxists all along or at the very minimum didn't care about what happens after they died as long as their own children were set and they could live their final years with their pension. Just look at how David Lloyd George (the PM of the UK during WW1) sponsored Emmeline Pankhurst's anti male terrorist group and used them to shame men to fight as part of the white feather campaign, if that was the sorts of people who was in charge all the way back in the 1910s then the rise of a new breed of institutional stupidity were inevitable, because in hindsight it's quite apparent that even during the "good old days" ( in the sense of not having today's crap) of our parents and grandparents we were on borrowed time all along.
Imperator Knight, this was an outstanding marathon and probably puts you in amongst a very small handful of people who have actually had the diligence to work through what Karl Marx was all about and how Das Kapital was created. It is a shame that the illnesses that he reported to have, didn't collect him earlier. Perhaps it would've saved a few percent of the 1 hundred million dead, that communism has cost humanity. If Harold Wilson could get no further than Page two, I think that says it all. But well done and thank you for getting past page two.
@@theadventuresofred19 I would love to contact him, because me and another guy edited the Wikipedia page on the economics of Germany and all our edits were deleted. I'm a socialist, but I want each side to be heard, honestly...
I am reminded of what my late father used to say that Communism hates the Church not because of being anti-spiritual but that Communism itself is a religion and hates all competition. I guess growing up in a family where one side was communist and the other side an old city family (bourgeoisie) while both sides were very well educated and reasonable gives a very interesting perspective.
Clarification for 32:04. Some Hermeticists call the Christian God the ‘demiurgos’ (the Artisan), while others call the true immaterial God the ‘demiurgos’... you know, just to confuse us. Well, for the purposes of this video, the name isn’t important. What matters is that, as a Hermeticist, Marx is looking to overcome the ‘material’ God and get to the true ‘immaterial’ God. So if in doubt, just ignore where I said “and they call him the Demiurgos”.
While I did criticise Francis Wheen in the video, I actually found his book to be very in-depth, and would still recommend it for anyone interested in doing further reading. Jone’s book on Karl Marx is very apologetic and is, therefore, less of a priority. Kengor’s book (The Devil and Karl Marx) is good if you’re interested in the Christian perspective of this topic.
For any socialist or communist who has realised that there may be a problem with the Marxist or socialist ideology and would like further help in understanding the problem, I’d recommend the following books (in this order):
Muravchik’s “Heaven on Earth: The Rise and Fall of Socialism”.
Henry Hazlitt’s “Economics in One Lesson”.
Leonard Peikoff’s “The Cause of Hitler’s Germany”. (Yes, it is relevant.)
Thomas Sowell’s “Basic Economics”.
L.K. Samuels’s “”Killing History”.
Murray Rothbard’s “America’s Great Depression”.
Ludwig von Mises’s “Omnipotent Government”.
Ludwig von Mises’s “Socialism”.
No ideology/political system has ever or will ever work. All as bad as each other. But keep pointing the fingers.
Hi Tik, have you ever heard of a TH-camr by the name of fredda?
He made a video on you and a video about Hitler's Reich being capitalist
@@sbevexlr848 Yes, and as many of my viewers have pointed out, it's not worth responding to, so I won't.
@@TheImperatorKnightLeftism is a joke. The only arguments worth having are the details of Rightism.
TIK you taught me a new way of looking at things from history to real life thanks
Marx truly was the first redditor.
He owned a small press to make pamphlets to pass out everywhere for everyone to ignore, yes
thats funny
I've been saying something similar to this for awhile haha
I disagree, there is so much pol energy in marx that it's unreal
@@decay7883 Disagree, even /pol/iticians are less stupid
Jenny Marx after she left her fiance to get with Karl: " This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever."
Worse than the Gretzky to LA trade. And that's pretty bad 😂
@@Sweeptheleg83 worse than the Hershel Walker trade.
Women like Jenny make me scratch my head. They chase the "bad boy", and then complain when life with the "bad boy" turns out to suck; and they do this as they make fun of the "nice guy". 🙄
@@itamiyouji4057 "Don't try to understand women. Women understand women and they hate each other."
@@itamiyouji4057: Then they're shocked that the bad boy isn't interested in commitment and ditches them. It never ends.
Karl Marx realizes he should get a job
Two hours into his two-and-a-half hours long biography 😂
Just the pure fact that a third-rate, lazy philosopher was literally WORSHIPPED as a god irks me.
The patron saint of losers
He is STILL being worshipped as a god. Thats the biggest travesty. And its mainly done by the exact same people who were just like him. Lazy people that come from privilege backgrounds. Who do not want to work for a living.
@@KenEze-k6k Damn I'm using that one. That sums it up so bloody good.
He still is and it's worse than that this assholes teachings and "philosophy" have killed more than both world wars
I always say that to call Karl Marx a bum is an insult to bums. Which is why I call him a sponge.
7 minutes in, and we already know today Marx would be the top mod of r/antiwork on reddit. Resents the idea of work, relies entirely on parents for money, resents religion, has to be reminded by his mother to bathe at least once a week...
His followers are good at emulating him.
And in marx fashion he'd ruin it just as fast
There's a antiwork reddit page like it's Litterly named that? Lol wtf.
It's hilarious. One of their mods dumpstered the whole group's reputation on a live TV interview that is pure cringe schadenfreude.
Don't forget he is Jewish and in his own opinion, communism was political Judaism.
The biggest winner is our beloved Prussian lieutenant, actually. He dodged a bullet by being humiliated by Jenny.
Talk about getting the last laugh 😂 sad that she had to pay for that bad decision for her and her children’s entire lives though
@@CarbonatedGravy
Yeah, that was... *_eeeh_*_ 😫_
On a lighter note:
A man goes to his rabbi and says “Rabbi, you never guess what happened to me. My son left the house and became a Christian! What am I to do?”
The rabbi embraces the man and cries “You never guess what happened to mé. My son left the house too and also became a Christian!”
“Best we pray to God and ask for his help” So they asked for wisdom in prayer, and God replied “You never guess what happened to mé…..!”
That is pretty good!! 🤣 Even Christians and Jews will find this humorous!
Nice joke bruh 😂😂
🤣😂🤣😂🤣 That's funny!!!
Very old but funny one 😂
lollolololol
Marx was more of an Edgelord Redditor type than I initially thought.
I've never Worked a Job before and am Always in Debt and Never have enough Money and Live Entirely on Others giving Me Money to Support Me but I have used My Free Time to Solve All Economic Problems and formulated the Perfect Economic and Social System. Now give up Your Entire Life and Follow My Obviously Brilliant Ideas.
that was a chad move for the other guy to kick down the door and loudly tell Marx to fix it to avoid thieves, as if signaling thieves to attack him😂
The only thing Marx hated about the aristocracy is that he was not born one.
Please read MARX carefully he was an intellectual an intellectual that can easily read classic griece language and done his Phd
I think who ever said that little knowledge is dangerous thing was truly right
@@GhulamMuhammad-vh8upit was a dodgy PhD, did you listen to the video?
And if he was born one, he would have hated all the responsibilities of nobility.
@@AmanitaWoodrose well be practical his father was a successful lower and his wife brother was minister in strong state of Germany he was completed mankind who wants to change this world in short MARX was just a mind and nothing else he always said us not me ok dear and please carefully read his claim that's are still prevailing in bourgeoisie society
@@GhulamMuhammad-vh8up Why are you defending a radical anti-semite?
I simply don't know how this gentleman keeps up this workload. Thanks for all your hard work Sir!
By working until 7.30 am this morning to make sure it was done in time 🙈
@@TheImperatorKnight Lovely, sir.
By the way, I love your videos. Several times, I find the ideas you present strange, but they start making sense when I think them through.
Being from India, we were mainly taught facts, and never deeply about the ideologies and philosphily in school. But yes, some people do tend to pick up ideologies from their surroundings.
He's able to do it because he's not a Marxist
Agreed, glad he doesn't work as hard as Marx lol
especially that, this is a 2 and a half hour one
Marx was a brutish, brooding, and bitter poet.
If more people knew the truth about him and his character they would promptly dismiss his poisonous philosophies.
P.S. If socialists and communists were truly operating on a 'higher spiritual plane', they wouldn't need to deceive others or force their worldview on others.
They just copy the west...
weird, all the marxists I have ever met with , brutish, brooding and bitter, weird huh
There purely materialist. I used to think because I hate materialist I used to be a socialist. Now I see I was just a spiritualist socialist care about materialism more than any capitalist.
Yeah that's kind of the sniff test for if you're actually 'enlightened' or not isn't it?
All of his followers and honestly all Socialists in general are like him. They definitely wouldn't dismiss his philosophies.
This whole presentation reminds me of my sister in law's ex-husband. A self described philosopher who would read environmental poetry to everyone. Wouldn't work, barely took care of himself hygienically, drank too much, and was profoundly anti-Christian. He's trans now.
Hahaha
Your sister in law needs psychotherapy. Badly
Lol
But the capitalist provides these op for him
@@thanoskoutroumbas356 Psychotherapy is fraudulent. She needs Christ before psychotherapy.
🤷🏻 sounds like every other communist and socialist I know now.
it's kinda striking that the most devout and serious amongst them also don't (or barely) work.
They desire to emulate their socialist messiah
Most socialists I know are extremely hard working people. Many of them work in healthcare, I know a few engineers among them too. Despite these grueling schedules they still spend much of their free time organizing political activities. Everything from canvassing to improvised soup kitchens. It is a level of dedication that I could only aspire to, and I believe that the level of public service and selflessness in my experience is matched only by the best of religious charities.
@@TonyGModesto there are a few that are true idealist socialists, something even Lenin poorly understood himself. Most seem to be in it for personal gain. All but one of my socialist friends and acquaintances barely work for whatever reasons and dont seem to understand what they hate. Some even seem to fit the bill of needing to be taken care of by the state as if a parent, even though they should be able to provide for themselves. Especially the activists i know seem to be wellfare leeches because they obviously could work since activism takes time and effort, even alot of travel. But instead of being productive one just sits his ass on the street and thinks hes saving the world that way. I feel you’re lucky of knowing a few good ones frankly. Do they do stuff too like dividing their income equally? There is only one group i know off in this country that actually applies communist economics to their paychecks themselves. Its so rare.
@@TonyGModesto my mum was a member of the British communist party, she was also a midwife in the NHS and worked pretty hard, but she divorced my dad, remarried an old rich guy who died within 6 months and she inherited all his money then she retired very early and remarried again to a guy half her age. Her dad was also a member of the British communist party, he was one of the founders of communism in this country, he was a dock worker in Glasgow, he was known for going on strike all the time and was a conscientious objector during the war. MY dad did national service in Singapore fighting the communists, he was gutted when later on his wife joined the communist party.
I've heard that Marx was a parasite. I knew that Marx was a parasite. But, no matter how many times its presented to me, I can barely fathom just how much he sucked.
What is even more annoying is that he were given so much help while so many others do not even get close to the amount of help he gets.
Once again society helps out those who do not deserve it, and let those that do fall into misery.
his daughters alll marry men who were like karl marx
He is a clear case of a narcissist.
Tiny hats
Both Marxists and Capitalists are parasites
I think you are missing that Marx is afraid of being shamed by his family. He simply didn't want to hear what a disgrace he is. The only way to trick himself into believing himself independent was to block out or bully anyone who confronted him with his failings.
A chain smoking alcoholic who was so lazy that he didn't bathe regularly. What a God of a "man".
An excellent role model for Stalin and Mao.
Che Guevara didn't wash himself either.
The original redditer
ewww... glad I was never a Marxist.
Annnnd.....EXACTLY why the DEMOGOGUE Party policies are BULL SCHIFF--- DON'T WORK...LIVE OFF OTHERS!
this explains a lot.
*A LOT*
I’m just halfway through so it might come up later, but it is good to mention that through his mother, Karl was also related to the Philips family (yes, from the multi-billion euro multinational company). The founders of the modern Philips company were his cousins and their father (Karl’s uncle) was a rich tabacco trader from the Netherlands. The Philips family sent their nephew some pocket money every now and then when he asked for it.
So, while many people are aware that Engels was rich and sent Karl lots of money, I don’t think many people know Marx was surrounded by people that were absolutely loaded with money. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of people around him were actually very rich. It is probably another reason why Jenny married him, thinking his family and close friends could turn his fate around... It is therefore also not a surprise that a lazy slouch like him would end up so envious when that never materialised…
Who deliberately sold dodgy lightbulbs.
@@HouseholdDog Made in China, yes
@@Marrea-q1m It's amazing how similar his modern followers are to him.
wasnt he also a rothchildian?
This connection between hatred of Judaism and anti-capitalism is very important to understand, and I'm glad that TIK has pointed that out.
Capitalists like Ford, Krupp,.etc, have strongly pushed antisemitism.
Dude must have been involved in some sufist cult. They have ingrained hatred for Jews and financial independence
Hatred of the ethnic Jews, really. And Christianity.
the lazy attitude - living an "intellectual"'s life, pursuing the joys of dialectics of ideas at the expense of others' money
A lot of Marxists were jews
But this wasn't the real Marx. Real Marx was never tried before... Real Marx would work
Marx was infiltrated by capitalism! Give marx more time and he'll be good!
Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah 🤣
Stupid autocorrect: dropped the lol
@@professionalmexican7919crazy the communist country’s that are so perfect like the USSR have to rely on a capitalistic country like the USA
Somewhere there is a parallel reality where Marx became a wealthy industrialist.
“Gib me dat for free”
- Hungry Santa
He was like Santa's evil twin from an alternate universe.
Santa comes in to leave you presents.
Karl comes in to take your sh..., squat for half a year while leeching off of you and complaining about how you should be earning more money, because then _he_ could get more stuff from you.
@roerich1848
I like this. 🙂
“Everything is opium except actual opium which is fine” - Karl Marx
Concerning 10:25 how much Heinrich is complaining about Karl spending 700 thalers, I did a little math to accurately figure out just how much that equates to.
From Wurtemberg's historical records, the average stonemason in 1835 made around 5 florins a day. Assuming a 6 day work week, no working on the sabbath, comes to a clean 30 Florins/week. 52 weeks in a year makes for a yearly income of approximately 1560 Florins a year. Conversion of Florins to Thalers is 2 Florins = 1 Thaler. So average salary for a stonemason working 6 days a week, every week in 1830's Germany was 780 Thaler. 700 Thaler is 46.7 weeks worth of work.
Heinrich is effectively saying his son was frivolously spending nearly a year's worth of an average workman's wages while being unmployed.
Thanks for your calculations and explanations.
I really appreciate it (please don't take it sarcastically).
Thanks. To make it a little more relatable, the average American construction worker (I think an effective analog to old stonemason) makes ~$40,750 a year. It would be like someone unemployed spending $36,000 on cigarettes, booze, and ladies of the night. Absolutely insane spending.
Sounds like boogie2988
Wasting that much money so quickly is truly a sight to behold.
@@johnsanko4136 I'd say 1800s Stonemason as a profession was a very respected and well paid profession.
More along the lines of "white collar professional" today would be.
so maybe $100,000 to $150,000 a year???
These videos on philosophy and ideology are desperately needed in modern day. You're doing the job most schools refuse to do.
Because the schools are run by Marx's adherents.
After your explanation of Marx's character, I finally understand what is wrong with most the leftists. These just cracked his trick and try to emulate him. When I was a leftist, I was constantly at a loss why the other left-wing guys and girls tried to make me hate my job (which I loved), my parents (whom I have always respected for teaching me how to think for myself despite the altruist indoctrination they themselves received) and even the organisational activity (for I was 'too boring' in trying to build a trusted network of encrypted mail and IM communication in the Marxist circles around me). They don't want to make the revolution, they want to have a revolution to be made in their name, and everyone else to be sacrificed in it.
They want someone to foot the bill for their emulation of Marx, the spending, the partying, and flopping whenever and wherever they please. They don't want to work for anything.
Unfortunately they don't understand that in a socialist state they will be worked to the bone, and all the money and goods will go to someone who lays about all day but belongs to a more favored class
Well said
I don't think they actively try to emulate him. For that they'd need to know about him.
Their behaviour is just a natural product of their childish egos and beliefs.
@schizotypal4966… I'm interested to know why you think any of what you wrote has anything to do with Marxism. Can you quote something Marx wrote or said that makes any such connection?
Tbh, I think you may find that difficult. Marx would view the contemporary left as completely insane, corrupt and ridiculous. In a word, today's leftists have nothing in common with the ideas of Karl Marx. Prove me wrong by quoting something. Not some made-up Internet quote, though. Cite the book and page number.
That’s the thing- YOU like your job, YOU have a supportive family, YOU have the ability to engage in your hobbies and interests. But the world isn’t all about YOU. So when you make such a generalized statement based off your limited perspective of the world, it can be very easy to believe people are starting conflict for fame and glory. You just aren’t one of the many people experiencing the injustices that inspire revolution.
Note: I am not a Marxist. I 100% believe the “leftists” from your chats were trolling jerks. I also do not want to dismiss any personal struggles you’ve experience. You can’t know what you don’t know. But you have the power and intelligence to do better for yourself and others. Don’t waste it!
This really made me realize that Engels was a friend that Marx did not at all deserve to have.
Sadly what happens. Enablers financially sponsor bad behavior. Those they sponsor abuse and use the Enablers like a parasite.
If he existed today the CPS would be knocking at his door for not providing for his children.
You say that as though Engle's wasn't the brains behind their ideas.
Engels was rotten to the core and if I remember correctly he was just as lazy as Marx, forced by his father to work for the family empire so as to not lose his inheritance.
@@SporkyMcFly right, but at least he actually _did_ work.
@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish 1% better than Marx is 99% worse than the average human, right?
Critics make 15-35 minute long videos often relying on a handful of sources and resort almost entirely on reciting often without context.
TIK makes book long video essays of 30min-5 hour long videos with a welcomed amount of citations and a hefty sum of sources. Not just reciting but also explaining and discussing.
Then they wonder why it isn't as effective.
That's what makes TIK one the best historians around.
@@Inquisitor6321 Happened recently. Not even a week ago someone posted a video on Capitalism and the Economy of Nazi Germany. Same user posted videos directly critizing TIK so you can assume it's in direct opposition.
However issue with the video is, it doesn't explain much. 90% if not more is just reciting citations without much context. Obviously bringing up stuff TIK has addressed without addressing TIK's arguments.
Basically coming off as someone reciting the bible. Using Toozes and Landa predominantly as that bible.
Tu resinga' madre should had brought in this world under communism for u to fully enjoy that whip on your lazy freeloaders back, hijo de puta!
"It was so unreadable that people could claim to have read it and noone else could call them out on it as they hadn't read it either" like the qu ran
There are some people ("A LOT"?) that have some books (Again....."A LOT"??) that the primary purpose of which is either JUST "decoration" on some shelf, AND/OR....To show others how "intellectually endowed" they are, or that they are "True Believers" in whatever such a book says or espouses.
And there is a good chance that such books are not even read to START WITH. Or understood even IF read.
You should check out MY personal library if you don't believe me.🙄🤣
As somebody living 50 meters away from the birthhouse of Marx a fantastistic watch. Thanks for the video!
Out of curiosity. Is there worshippers there?
Is the negative energy and waves of despair still emanating from there? Do you have frequent headaches?
How often do they have to clean rotten fruit off the walls?
@@tylertheultimatebadass87 I never noticed any. The place only ever gets visits by school trips and chinese tourists tho
But TIK, you are wrong! Marx didnt even invent communism, there were others who inspired my specific version of socialism. Regardless, real socialism hasnt been tried and the biographies of his life are written by his enemies, they cant be trusted!! You should only read the stuff i approve of, even if they might prove excatly what you said!! You are wrong because you havent even read this one specific interpretation of Marx!!
Hehe for a second there I thought you were serious.
True, you ever heard someone say "but that wasn t REAL national socialism/fascism ?
@@entspannter I have, the 3rd Position/ NS sympathizers love saying that lately.
Questioner: Then we have crusaders from Orion coming to this planet for mind control purposes. How do they do this?
_Ra: As all, they follow the Law of One observing free will. Contact is made with those who call._
_Those then upon the planetary sphere act much as do you to disseminate the attitudes and philosophy of their particular understanding of the Law of One, which is service to self. These become the elite._
_Through these, the attempt begins to create a condition whereby the remainder of the planetary entities are enslaved by their own free will._
Ra Material (1981)
WELL SAID. WELL SAID (*applause*)
I recently read The Communist Manifesto, I was quite shocked by how little substance it actually contained. It was written like a runway plan a teenager concocted after fighting with his parents. No substance, just ranting with a few bullet points. The fact it made such waves is shocking, but on another hand, it’s not. There was a lot of economic strife/anger when it was first published.
Didn't you find it shocking how much it called to centralize the economy to the state? While communists consistently proclaim that as "state-capitalism"?
Engels' principles of communism is a bit more substantial, Manifesto was meant for layman's terms, to make it approachable to more casual readers.
Karl Marx’s magisterial work was Das Kapital not the communist manifesto. So I would go there for substance to critique.
Das Manifest is a pamphlet, not a scientific essay.
It's a cunningly Satanic sleight-of-hand to blame the capitalists for the very problem the capitalists are currently solving.
To quote Robert .E Heinlein: "Karl Marx is the disheveled old mystic of das capital".
He was a fool and a hypocrite that even believed in slavery, who was then buried in a private mosulium, because he didn't want to be buried in a state provided plot with the plebs he supposedly fought for. A mosulium by the way, that you have to PAY to view...something else that's supposedly against his teachings.
Anyone who believes in this guy's ideology shouldn't be allowed to vote, let alone dictate to anyone else what fair and just mean.
Sadly Robert Heinlein was himself a feminist (which makes him an idiot), in Starship Troopers he says that women make better pilots than men and during the 1980s wrote a series of essays, in one of them argued that men should be stripped of the write to vote as payback for women not being able to in the past. Heinlein was a dumbass who was something of a savant when it came to physics which is why he had some good technological worldbuilding in an otherwise shitty written novel (which I found so boring that I head to force myself to read it over the course of a month).
You forgot breed. They shouldn't be allowed to breed either.
You mean Mausoleum.
@@therezabjorklund353 Yeah, not a word I'm use to using so even autocorrect couldn't help me 🤪
@Jaeger_Bishop… Go back to bed. You're making everyone ill with your ignorant know-nothing diatribe.
You are not alone. Lots of YT idiots think it's cool to cast aspersions on Marx. It's a religion.
I'm still waiting for any of them to quote something Marx said or wrote that backs up their ludicrous 'comments' about him.
I don't know why but I get the impression Tik doesn't like Karl Marx 🤔
Some people seem to hate him for just thinking and putting forward ideas.😶
I am not marxist
This is an understatement. This is a morbid anti-Marxism.
@@AshikurRahmanRifat That implies that Marx did one or the other of those.
You sure? I get the impression he is mildly annoyed by Marx.
@@AshikurRahmanRifat Has he even ever actually thought
How on earth can a father (family provider) leave the corpse of a child in a back room and depend on the charity of someone to lend him £2 to bury the corpse? That’s insane!
Groucho and Harpo were the really talented Marx brothers.
Karl does them a disservice by sharing the name.
Don’t forget the very talented Chico !
The Marx brothers were everything Karl wished he was, they were successful, easily recognizable and practiced their faith.
Zeppo was more successful than Karl. Zeppo actually machined parts for the war effort in his home shop during WWll as a subcontractor.
@@TheDigitalApple Groucho was left-leaning.
Mao also refused to brush his teeth.
That's just China
*Yep, and Stalin was an Alco, while Hitler was a Pill popper.*
All 3 of them got a lot of innocent ppl killed.
Also apparently pol pot was a addict to prescription drugs
Mao thought the rinsing his mouth with tea could help his oral hygiene.
@@leonardticsay8046mouth wash mabye tea make that shit worse though wouldn't it?
It’s so absurd to think his wife left being an aristocrat to put up with all that, he made himself the center of the universe like a black hole dragging everyone down with him.
He was far worse than any caricature of selfishness could come up with, absolute refusal to work, keeps getting free money from everyone around him and wasting it on himself immediately while his family suffers, wasn’t even nice to the people giving it to him or anyone else for that matter and couldn’t even be faithful to his wife? Literally a cult leader, the worst of the worst kind of scam artist. His followers reflect him perfectly
Gentlemen, we have finally answered the question, "Based on what". This is truly the most foundationally based video on TH-cam.
yet still, we all don't unserstand Marx and communism hasn't ever really for real been tried honestly in ernest, I swear and capitalism obviously oppresses ye good ole socalistas,
right..right?
@@publichearing8536are you for real?!
@@AmanitaWoodrose No 🙃
@@publichearing8536 sorry, its getting so insane it's hard to tell sometimes 😂
@@publichearing8536it's like they've created something is impossible and illogical that every time they try to achieve it, they simply fail because their goals are not realistic and are clouded in a shroud of mysticism deeper than even that of the most devout Christian.
I dislikr Christian Marxists, "we do this out of love, we love you so much that we're going to persecute you and alienate you unto you accept our love" Is the gist of it.
Marx was a bum.
No. Marx was not a bum. He was a SPONGE.
No. Marx was not a bum. He was a SPONGE.
*But always had money for booze and ciggies.*
@@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808Can I bum a lighter from you? I left it here somewhere, but cant seem to find it...
A sponge? No leach is a better term.
"Being so parasitic, that he transcends the need to earn money itself". Beautiful.
2 Thessalonians 3:10
"For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat."
Numbers 31:17
"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him."
God commanding Moses and the Hebrews to commit genocide.
Yielding to theocracy and the sado-masochistic virtues of an unyielding dictator doesn't help anyone, Marx was right about that.
True. Like all of the kids of milionairs
@@isaakmorse6044 Like the kids of socialist billionaires*
@@isaakmorse6044 wrong, their parents worked for the kids to have easier lives, the kids arent mooching of society, just their parents and their parents are okay with it, you arent entitled to their parents money, work for your own
Amen, 🙏
"Another pint of Marxist Tears please, Barman!" 😁
"I like my Marxist tears like my popcorn: salty."😂
@@SergioKoolhaas With a side order of sour grapes 😎
@@chrispalmer9838sounds absolutely disgusting
Very high soy content
In complete fairness to Epicurus, at least he actually practiced what he preached
How do you fight an idea that you can have everything and not earn it?
By pointing out that this only applies to the leader of the tribe, not to everyone in the tribe.
@@TheImperatorKnight an entire people en slav ed so Kim can be the ultimate degenerate.
@@TheImperatorKnight an entire people en slav ed so Kim can be the ultimate degen.
@@TheImperatorKnightAn entire people totally en[servituded] so Kim can act as the ultimate degen.
The problem is many who believes in this BS thinks they will be on the top after the revolution. Only to be surprised when they find themselves against a wall.
The man behind the slaughter (literally)
@@sandonthebrain9604 behind what slaughter?
@@jespermuhrmannthe hundreds of millions that died under socialist regimes. Be it Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, the Kim family, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, or the many other dictators using socialism as a means to enforce power.
@@jespermuhrmann Holodomor, Great Purge, Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Square, Khmer killing fields, Korean famine, Hue Massacre
@@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJING _"Hue massacre"_ Can't spell slaughter without laughter!
He died in obscurity
How many humans were killed because of his sick philosophy?
100 million people died in India because of the British
@@Sneed-pb9cz100 million didn't die, that was at least 35 million on the upper estimate.
@@macblackadder93 Me when I lie:
@@Sneed-pb9cz because the number doesn't make sense. Especially when you go from the India East India Company to 1947, it would be from 1600-1947. That is 347 years. To assume the 35million is the correct answer, that would be roughly 100k killed a year.
None. How can Marxism kill people if Marxism as a political/economic system has never existed? The so-called communist countries bear no resemblance whatsoever to the type of world Marx and Engels proposed.
They should make a Terminator movie, where Tech-Com send a lone warrior back in time to eliminate Karl Marx as his writings indirectly lead to the creation of Skynet. So Skynet sends a Terminator back through time to protect Marx.
With a spinoff for Engels and Hegel.
Karl Marx should be played by Dana Snyder, because Master Shake is the only personality that could convince me this person could be real.
Soviet terminator!
@bartsanders1553 oh yeah I see it now
I don't think it would do any good. Some other loser fueled by envy and sloth would come along to peddle the same slop to the masses.
I can already feel the seething of the communist over this video
This kind of tribalism isn’t helpful to anyone. I get that it’s funny to make fun of people we don’t like. But it is not constructive. The goal is to get people to realize that it is good to embrace responsibility voluntarily. Socialism/communism give people a perceived solution to very real problems in our society. The idea that all socialist people are bad and lazy people is the exact same mindset that marxists have about the bourgeoisie. You can change peoples minds if you provide a better solution to their problems.
They don't watch non approved propaganda
@@nebwachamp Sometimes they do, and think they're on a holy crusade to convince the chat that they're right.
Happened years back when some guy in China saw a video outside the great firewall about Taiwan, then tried to disprove it like a good pawn. He was then punished by the state for watching unapproved media.
@@orksy2935 to be honest, here the majority of people will be ostracized for having a different view. People from Taiwanese who made fun of Chinese who have different views is no different when a Taiwanese being made fun of saying anything negative in China majority website. You're not willing to share the other side's perspective. Why would they want to have a conversation with you.
@@ihatecabbage7270 In this case the other side have been told lies, either because they believe the conmen who tell them, or it is the mandated by the state and doing otherwise will quickly lead to health problems usually in the form of a struggle session. The latter have no choice but to obey or do the bare minimum, while the former do and act abhorrently anyway, just like Marx himself.
Usually when someone has lots of children it's for the purpose of running a family business and or a farm, my grandfather was one of 12 siblings working on a German pig farm in Ohio. Karl Marx literally did the opposite, he decided it was appropriate to bring more children into his twisted life to have them suffer and watch his wife's life deteriorate right before his eyes as she had to deal with the loss of her children dying from the conditions he brought them into and didn't give a damn.
A video this long? TH-cam has been blessed with greatness
I could be wrong, but this may be the longest video on Karl Marx on the internet
he always makes them this long
@@martiendejong8857 I only have a handful of videos this long. Usually my videos are between 40 minutes and an hour.
@@TheImperatorKnight it's the longest one i'm going to watch!
@billynomates920 are you not watching the Battlestorm mega videos.
I hear about the fantastic stories Marx told his children, and I wonder, why the hell did he never write them down and publish them? He could have at least made something of himself THAT way!
That would have required a modicum of foresight, which he didn't have.
@@carboneagle He was such an intellectual that he could never see the solutions right in front of his face. And the world suffered for it.
If he became a fantasy author he'd probably be much more well regarded than he is now, atleast then you could say he contributed something back to the world that was positive.
They were probably written by Engels anyway.
@@oldfella3919 Engels was too busy earning money to give to Marx and writing Das Kapital for Marx.
Karl Marx’s criticism of capitalism was like a fat man writing a diet book.
Be fair to the fat man. If he was a pudgy man who was morbidly obese five years ago writing a diet book, it's a pretty good book.
Or a prostitute writing about the virtues of abstinence
The general ill health of the Marx family also suggests something else. The deaths of the children follow a typical pattern of the mother having "sub clinical syphallis". This means that although she was infected she didn't neccesarily exhibit any symptoms. The children are born weak and don't thrive and usually die within the first 5 years. Usually the woman can be restored to "uninfected" health after somewhere between 4 & 6 years. Jenny had, it would appear, at least two "bouts" of infection. The first was, presumably, from Karl when they got married. She recovered and after having her daughters was infected again. This would also make sense of Karl's symptoms at the end of his life. Just a thought.
Oh but the rich folk don't like to talk about syphilis. How uncouth!
surprise surprise
Not anyone's fault if so
Poor food, poor habitation can explain frequent sickness in an era without antibiotics and sequenced death.
"The Syphilis Manifesto"
Now see, here's the thing: I have no job, and am probably unemployable. I'm a writer (tabletop RPG supplements) and I haven't published anything in way too long. I am essentially leeching off of my parents. And yet, just by the fact that I have a budget, and _really try to stick to it, as hard as I can,_ I'm actually in a decent spot monetarily while I try to get my shit together. I know how money works, and I know how to _not_ spend beyond my fukken means!
Also, I'm aware that all of those things are _bad_ things, and I _want_ to overcome them. I just don't know _how,_ and it kinda pisses me off.
Why would you be unemployable? Do you have a disability?
Assuming you physically can't get a job and must remain a writer, I have a suggestion for you. I don't have a lot of spare time, but recently I've been playing solo-rpgs like Ironsworn: Starforged. Just got Four Against Darkness too. If you check out the solo-roleplaying sub-Reddit, you'll see that there seems to be a demand for well-written, simple mechanic systems with good world-building potential.
Well, if there's a demand, you should fill it. Set yourself a goal of writing up an entire rule system in one day (which will force you to keep it simple). Then revise on the second day, and do some play testing on the third, fourth and fifth days. Revise once more, then come up with a setting. Add in some art (maybe even AI created), publish as a PDF, then advertise on the relevant subreddits and forums.
In theory, you could have a published product within a week or two, especially if you're unemployed as you've got nothing else going on. You probably won't make a ton of money with this first product (unless it goes viral), but it will give you experience and show you that wealth can be created. Your wealth and life are entirely in your hands.
@LeifTunteri-s7r Thank you. The kind words do help.
@@TheImperatorKnight This is similar to what I tried with my own writing, unfortunately I quickly run into writer's block despite being passionate for writing. It also sounds like I have the same problem as Marx when he got stuck on little details that could be edited quickly (I only get this for bigger projects), which is disconcerting, although I at least have a job.
Just get a job and feel the pain of being worthwhile you bloody parasite!
@TheImperatorKnight Any chance you could do a video to help those of us with severe disabilities and in poverty? (I have autism and multiple sclerosis).
He wrote the Communist Talmud.
BRAVO! Well said that man!
In his own words: Communism is secular Judaism.
@@JH-6g5 Communism is the occult and Freemasonry, with it's esotericism stripped away
Yes more like communist Hadith because where will all that Jewish hatred have come from.
The capitalist Talmud actually : he explains quitte accurately what a (preferably Jewish) entrepreneur must do to maximize his profit and control over (preferably non-Jewish but also lesser Jewish parents who will never make it) masses : essentially what he describes are accounting tricks.
I always wondered why champions of Marxism almost never talk about Marx's personal life and history.
His actions might make us think less of him, and that can't be allowed. It might lead to people questioning his ideas.
If people start questioning his ideas...😮😮
...the whole doctrine of the Cult unravels.
Because it's not relevant and cherry picked out of context idiocy like this isn't relevant. Most philosophers, elite etc of the 19th and early 20th century were absolutely shitty people, should Churchhill statues be torn down because he was a degenerate pervert?
Also this crap is just extremely biased. How is philosophical work for paying patrons, "not working"? How can you claim the man who literlaly wrote the most influential philosophical works of modern history, as well as invented the fields of political economy, sociology and documentary reporting, and was praised for his work even by Lincoln someone who was "lazy" and "didn't work"?
According to rightoids, mooching off a trust fund and shares is "working", but being arguably the most influential scholar of modern history isn't because you are funded by patrons.
Because nobody cares about his personal life just like I don't care about Adam Smith's personal life.
@@epicphailure88
People do, because it shapes their philosophy and ideology.
@@Web720 I haven't seen any evidence to support this claim.
Wherever Marx lived he's been leaving a trail of his children's bodies. I guess that was his life's work.
Lying isn't necessary in this instance
Commie bathing habits learned from the boss, checks out.
Now we're giving around red pills Keynes wasn't an economist either, he took one course of economics and yet the current mainstream economic thought is based on this guy.
You should do him sometime in fact.
Yes, especially as Keynes himself was technically a communist himself! The widely held belief that he was a liberal whilst advocating eugenic policies is ridiculous!
I actually have respect for Keynes because he was an extremely prudent and competent value investor ala Ben Graham or Buffet, who handily outperformed the UK market with his fund.
Come on he invested in the Papiermark 😂
@@tomislavvinkovic1955 Haha. Even the best of us make mistakes... Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I invested in Russian companies that got sanctioned into the ground. I bought one for the 1/10th book value that was trading at the same price as its very next dividend payment, after a 90% decline. I figured I'd collect the dividend and break even in 30 days. Almost did so, but they were blocked from making payments and the entire board resigned. I still don't know if that was a wise bet or not -- I did under estimate the likelihood of sanctions, but if I repeated that same trade in similar circumstances, and it worked out just once even, I could easily make up for 9 other total losses. And if it worked out just once more net of that, I'd have a ten bagger.
Anyway, my point is, at least Keynes got his hands dirty and actually engaged in the activity he theorized about, even if I think a lot of his conclusions were flawed. Marx never put his ideas to the test, or sought any kind of real world experience or validation, likely because he knew it would all fall flat if he did. He just sat in his high (filthy) tower indulging in his own fantasy and ego, and (very occasionally and inefficiently) churning out rhetoric without any kind of supporting theory or reason behind it. That anyone can read his work and think that he had any kind of insight or intelligence is beyond me. Before reading it, I was always lead to believe that he was somehow insightful and brilliant, but just had some mistaken ideas like the labor theory of value. When I actually read it, I was taken aback by how intellectually bankrupt it is. You can clearly tell that he knew nothing, and put zero work into actually asking or answering complex questions. It's nothing but the fantasy of someone with a superiority complex, envious and resentful of the world, and attempting to justify it with baseless rhetoric that he attempts to pass off as philosophy. It's sad, and utterly astounding that anyone takes him seriously at all. Keynes was at least intelligent and capable of making actual reasoned arguments, had real world experience, and put actual money behind his ideas (well, sort of. He invested based on micro security analysis, not macro economics. And he was wealthier for it I'm sure -- as there are plenty of wealthy security analysts, and very very few wealthy economists). Anyway, my point is just that Keynes and Marx are apples and oranges. You can compare Keynes to someone like Milton Friedman, but Marx you can at best be compared to the homeless cocaine addict on the street corner.
Agreed, a video on Keynes would be much enjoyed, Tik.
Marx in his book : So society will go as feudalism > capitalism > socialism
History : more feudalistic and less capitalistic poorer countries tries socialism more
Finally finished this video, being at work I could only listen to it in increments. I'm honestly shocked how terrible Marx was as a person. Not just toward his rivals, but toward his friends and family, if you can call them friends. This man would be considered an abuser in the modern age, treating friends like pockets who he manipulated to line his own pocket, treated his family like dirt and seemed to have little sympathy even for his Wife/Children. Based on what you're posted from Jenny, likely convinced her of "His" victimhood so she'd not blame him for their struggles.
This is inherently tragic. If he was alive today, his children would have been taken away by the Child Protection Agency/Service.
Jenny got what she deserved (and chose)
Man who hated work fightings for workers hahahha
@@matematic4837 Marx was fine with work, provided of course that someone else did it.
@@ladymacbethofmtensk896 which is the undialectic way of saying 'gaining the means of production' .
And meanwhile looking down on them.
Marx believed work was crucial to society's progression, he didn't like the exploitation of workers by capitalists.
😂
I read 'The Communist Manifesto', and two articles about his life; and despite having a socialist/unionist father, I came to the conclusion he was a smell, lazy, useless jerk. My Dad agreed, lol. Did we forget his 'other' children...
A running theme with Communists is that they don't know much about Karl Marx. Which I think is deeply ironic and hilarious.
I have a suspicion that Marx didn't see himself as lazy because he thought that putting any effort towards anything makes one a hard worker even if that "work" isn't for the benefit of any immediate needs. He lacked the maturity to realize that to make an income you need to do work as a means to an end even if it means doing something that you'd preferably not do in favor of something else you'd enjoy more (but isn't profitable), he seemed to be under the impression that all the effort he spent writing articles/dissertations and spending a lot of time sitting on his chair doing pointless never ending revisions to things he'd already wrote makes him entitled to some sort of reward, because in his mind that was "work".
To him work isn't doing something for someone in exchange for a reward for the services you gave to the person who hired you, but rather it's instead doing something you are very passionate about that after spending enough time on would lead to people rewarding you for out of "respect for your efforts" as if one had acquired the ability to become a one man charity donation box or had made money grow on trees/rain from the sky (EDIT: Which I just realized, is the "Labor Theory of Value" in a nutshell). His level of maturity when it comes to career choices had far more in common with that of a 6 year old who "wants to be an astronaut when he grows up" than the pragmatism of any adult jobseeker, and I think this is reflected when he said how in Communism that one could change their careers every hour of everyday being a fisherman by morning and a critic by night and something entirely different the next day if one feels like it, just like a kid who dresses like a Firefighter but later dresses as a Pirate.
I also think that his narcissism made him so in love with his writings and felt that what he made was so brilliant that he felt entitled to recognition and rewards from others and couldn't understand why anyone didn't appreciate what he made as much as he did, it's the same mindset that Hitler had with his art, doing to an art school to get validation for what he already made rather than wanting to improve his craft or get constructive criticism.
At least he should be bothered to bathe. But even that is too much for him.
Uhm... no, marx didn't think that everybody who does what they enjoy is 'entitled' to compensation. Like... what would that even mean? This is lightyears away from everything marx ever wrote or cared about. Marxism isn't a theory about who is entitled to money.
"There's no sin in being born in the dirt, but it's a terrible sin to want to stay there" - Patrick Harper ('Sharpe's Eagle')
Thanks for being so thorough, Mr. Tik
Im a little ashamed calling my self a socialist, but at least I'm cured from this plague
Good riddance. You've grown up. 🎉
I've always wondered this.. it's well known that you trade in your soul when you become a socialist but now that you're not, did you get it back?
@@AbrasiousProductions It’s not literal. You don’t actually give up your soul like you would when making a deal with the devil or something.
@@capncake8837 Obviously you have not spent enough time around socialists.......
@@danJAHrous I honestly have to disagree. Due to the indoctrination of the young, people in their early life can still be saved from socialism, but after they reached their 30s it's all lost.
The idea of YHWH as the demiurge is also a central tenant of Luciferian theology
That in the garden, Lucifer was just trying to give humans enlightenment
Etc
It's just curious to me how everything ties together
It's kind of the fundamental conflation of "dictatorship" with "tyranny". Dictators wield singular power, whilst tyrants abuse power. The two are not mutually inclusive. God is the ultimate dictator, Lucifer the ultimate tyrant.
Nietzsche would vomit at the life-and philosophy-of Marx.
Socialism itself can hope to exist only for brief periods here and there, and then only through the exercise of the extremest terrorism. For this reason it is secretly preparing itself for rule through fear and is driving the word 'justice' into the heads of the half-educated masses like a nail so as to rob them of their reason... and to create in them a good conscience for the evil game they are to play.
- Nietzsche
I mean both ideologies are proven to be evil and ruin lives. You seem to not know Nietzsche caused him to go insane. And both were just puppets of the Jesuit order of the Catholic Church. Much like Voltaire in France.
TIK should have already read Nietzsche
The life of Nietzsche was even worse
youtube surveillance is worse.
Karl Marx Drinking Game: Take a shot everytime TIK says "Marx refused to get a job."
I'd probably be dead if I tried it.
Maybe if you drank as much as Marx you could survive.
Karl Marx was the 1800's equivalent of the roommate who has transcended humanity and become a restful cube.
This has really challenged me. I've been listening for a long time, but this is definitely a rewind. So much to unpack. Love it. I have an uneducated question. I always thought that Capitalism was a prejoritve for the Free Market? Where did I learn this from I wonder? Those Jew hating snake oil salesmen have always given me pause since I was a child. My family is now falling for superstitious nonsense, everything is some insane babble about end times and conspiracy theories. Democracy seems like a bad idea but people keep saying it as if it's the water of life. The whiskey is getting to me now but let me tell you, this is one of the most thought provoking vids I've encountered. I'm just a white trash yankee from Massachusetts ❤
"I'm just a white trash yankee from Massachusetts"
I'm glad my video made you think, but don't speak down of yourself, even if tongue-in-cheek! You must look after your self-esteem.
And I'm not the first to deliberately separate "capitalism" from "the free market", but I'm maintaining this stance now because, like you, it makes people think. As soon as someone says they're a "capitalist", people immediately think they're for the current system, since the current system is capitalist. But when I say "I'm against capitalism, and we need a free market", that takes people off guard, and they start questioning the narratives they've been hearing, which is precisely what they need to be doing.
Thank you.
@@TheImperatorKnight good top, I'm going to give that a go
Austin Powers as the British police spy was just the icing on the cake!
This makes SO much sense! I could never understand why every single Marxist I’ve met was SUCH an awful human being. It’s a whole mindset. I never realised just how terrible Marx actually was.
Google Archipelago is a great pun.
thomas sowell explained me marx most accurately with neutrality and critically.
And his description matches the one TIK gives in this video.
He was just a resentful lazy bum and a parasite, just like the wicked spawn of his ideas today.
I don't think they're mutually exclusive. Also, TIK's sources are largely different.
I highly recommend C&C by Sowell. It's my favorite of his big 3 parter.
The Thomas Sowell Reader has a great chapter on Karl.
Finally finished the video
to be honest, it makes the colossal and catastrophic failure of communism even more astonishing and baffling
How did this guy even manage to get this far ? How did he get so many followers ? How did he manage to get such a strong psychological hold on so many ? He would make most gurus and cult leaders look like amateurs. I know some of the other leaders had a charisma of sort (for example, hitler was apparently known for his blue eyes and his stare had effects on people), so I wonder what Marx's secret was...
Well, at the same time, this video really makes me want to stop wasting my time, and a get a move on. You're always fairly inspiring in that regard, TIK.
Marxism, communism was based on Torah, "old testament". That is why Christians were, ate, more acceptable to the ideas of communism
I haven't even seen a second of the video and i already hit the like button. I was waiting for this one Tik. The video of life of dictators was 10/10
Dalek materialism, the philosophy of obtaining as much Dr. Who merchandise as possible even if it requires the "extermination" of rivals.
Until the novelty wore off, running around yelling, "Exterminate!" sounds kinda fun.
@@raygiordano1045 Don't run around saying it - say it directly into a pedestal fan !!! Annoy perfect strangers !!
@@TomasFunes-rt8rd As it so happens, I have a pedestal fan behind me right now. I'll be darned, it works great!
Given the practical sound effects techniques of the day, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that's exactly how they voiced the Daleks.
@@raygiordano1045 Hell yeah !! What with toilet plungers on their robo-faces, I'd lay odds they just talked into a pedestal fan too !
The Daleks were dustbins with toilet plungers for weapons but if its British it's high art.
This explanation of marx explains why people love marxism so much. I was drawn to marxism by my own resentment but once I saw it in the other socialists I was disgusted. Marxism is a big mirror held up to my own ugliness and confronting it was liberating for me. Im not free from my own inclinations but I will forever endeavour not to make others endure them.
You give the disciples of Marx too much credit as human beings. They haven't been fooled by him, they are kindred spirits of his.
It isn't that they don't know how awful a person he was, they simply don't want to look into his life lest they find they're actually gazing into a mirror already knowing what's there.
You absolutely nailed it perfectly
As a communist, I really couldn't care less about marx' character. Does your pro-capitalist attitude hinge on the character of idk adam smith?
@@Ffkslawlnkn how can you actually confess your belief in a oppressive, murderous and evil ideology that is as bad if not worse than the tyrants that ran Germany from 1933 to 1945 without feeling massive shame and guilt?
Society needs to treat you just like we should treat the scum storm troopers. Both ideologies are evil and you should really reconsider your views.
@@Ffkslawlnkn To be a communist is to be like Marx. That is to say willfully ignorant of reality, self-hating, hateful of achievement and of generally vile character.
Since the basic idea of capitalism was invented by the first two guys to willingly exchange items without violence, long before Smith existed, your question is moot.
@@hq21 as it turns out, that you agree with somebody doesn't mean that you share their character traits. Surprising, isn't it? 😂😂
Also, capitalism doesn't mean trading, just as communism doesn't mean cooperating.
Tik - Dropping a diss track for the ages.
No Fun
Sex Pistols.
This is a devastating attack on Marx. Well done.
I’m going need time to recover from this. Listening to description of his life was emotionally exhausting.
Instead of "sudoku" you could use "canadian health care".
😂
"That Vaush video was so dumb it made me want to Canada myself."
I always wondered why the Afghan communists were often sons of traditional landlords. Now I know - communism was an upgrade, from plantation prince to bureaucrat.
Soviets too. They’ve even created new nobility later called nomenclature.
if only Marx was born over a century later how his personality type would thrive as a podcaster or youtuber
😂 spot on
Vaush is pretty much a modern-day Marx.
I think you meant (p)redditor
Voosh comes to mind. Also, thanks TH-cam for deleting my comment.
@@MrRogerogerio you mean Vaush/douche the PDFile?
The similarities of Marx, and so many other prominent Socialists and common Overt Narcissists is super striking. Has anyone ever taken a serious look into the apparent link between the two?
Yes. TIK, on his previous video.
And before him, Thomas Sowell, who calls them "the anointed".
@@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf You mean the "Concerning pattern" video or his response video after that? I watched both but while he got very close to addressing it, I don't think he took it head-on. I get the feeling that TIK is laying the evidence on the table, but not calling it out outright. I think he's doing this to let viewers come to their own conclusion, which is the right thing to do. It's just that it's impossible for those of us who've experienced NPD first-hand to watch these videos, learn about these people, and not put the picture together. However, people unfamiliar with NPD may be unable to come to a conclusion because they don't understand how that mind works and can't see the link.
I don't remember Sowell calling it out straight either. But a mind like his must certainly see the link. And I get the feeling TIK also knows full well what he's looking at.
These people usually were directly influenced by each others work. At this point most of them had similar ethnic background, but the liberal thinkers before them (so the enlightenment guys) were usually either lapsed Calvinists or theologically atheist/mystic mumbo jumbo, some funding always came from a certain group as they supported pluralism for obvious reasons (and have always seen bribery as a decent method of creating a favourable environment), but it's only once their own children started secularising and becoming liberal revolutionaries that any sort of firm network of finance was set up to promote it, and even then it was often a means of support by family unless revolution looked to actually be on the cards. Lenin got massive funding from them, but only in 1917, before that he mostly lived within the existing socialist network.
@@captainotto Your reply is spot on.
TIK presents the evidence and his opinion/conclusions, but he leaves the viewer to make their own, which is why he leaves the sources.
Thomas Sowell didn't directly adress the issue either, but you can gleam, from listening to him whenever he speaks of what he call "The Anointed" that he has reached similar, if not the same, conclusions that TIK or James Lindsay have.
See, "The Culture of Narcissism,"
C. Laisch, 1979
All things political and narcissistic..
It's sickening that up to 100 million people killed in the name of this guy.
This is one of the very best, most intellectually stimulating, and profoundly educational channels on TH-cam.
The presenter is a brilliant teacher, and I deeply appreciate that he cites the sources for everything that he asserts. These discourses are invariably first-class academic essays.
If there's a silver lining to the dark cloud of having been forced to spend months recovering from a major surgery, it's the fact that I've had the time to listen to, and learn from, superb content such as this.
The Google censor bar is high if the word "fetish" or "fetishism" is censored. Not a swear word, or a word invoking hate speech in context. Humans set the bar for the Google AI censor. How ridiculous.
So a lazy person with vices like bad hygiene, heavy drinking and smoking, who was terrible with money, wrote “Capital” and some thought he was a genius… how interesting!
This is honestly just horrible, the amount of misery this man wrought upon everyone he knew, let alone the untold millions his writings victimised...it beggars belief.
Exactly. Isn't it amazing how clueless people can be? And actually defend marx, I don't know how they even tie their shoes across the street, that kind of ignorance is actually a miracle of nature
The soldier had one job and he missed. GI heaven bill revoked.
@@YoshiTheOreo Satan protects his agents.
Seriously, there are little kids who play with water guns that could've made that 🤦♂️
One point about "capitalists" and "proletariat", Marx didn't invent those concept in the 1850. They were invented by David Ricardo in "On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation" published in 1817. In this book Ricardo also speaks of "diminishing marginal productivity of capital", and of a third category of economic actors, distinct from capitalists and proletariat, he calls "landowners". Ricardo main point in 1817 was to say that, in the long term, capitalists' diminishing marginal profits will ruin them (Ricardo capitalists can be described as merchants and proto-industrialists...), and enrich landowners (mainly wealthy land-owners who owned huge agricultural domains in the 1810...), while "proletariat's" resources will be dragged down by population increase, their salaries being more or less indexed to the revenues of the poorest farmers, those who exploit the worst field and pay only symbolic rents. I didn't read that book (only exerts..), but I understand that Ricardo, who was later (1819) a Whig MP, was very concerned by the the 1815 corn laws, which the Whigs finally succeeded to abrogate in 1846. The main point of "On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation" is to try to demonstrate, that, if those laws are not abrogated, UK economics will self-destruct because of a confiscation of resources by wealthy agricultural landowners at the expanses of merchants & proto-industrialists ("capitalists") and hand-workers ("proletariat"). I don't know if Ricardo was perfectly honest in his economic reasoning. On can argue that corn-laws were a big advantage for British aristocracy and a serious problem for merchants & proto-industrialists, because they increased wheat's costs and made landowners richer and hand-workers and/or merchants & proto-industrialists poorer, because hand-workers couldn't feed as well unless their salaries were raised, and obviously Ricardo and the Whigs were british merchants friends and british aristocrats foes on that kind of subjects.
Concerning Marx "Capital", I understand that Marx's decision to write this book date from 1844. Corn's laws existed from 1815 to 1846, in 1844, Whigs were very close from convincing parliament to abrogate them, which certainly infuriated british aristocracy and made them eager to find any king of "economic literature" that might contradict Ricardo's widely acclaimed book. Fittingly Marx "demonstration" is that long-term British economics will be unsustainable, because it will enrich "capitalists" and ruin "proletariat" up to a breaking point, and that neither the con-laws nor the landowner will play any part in this story. It looks like an answer to Ricardo 1817 book, I guess it would have been more useful to Marx real friends (British aristocrats ?....) if it could have been published in 1844 instead of 1867. It might have been something of a paid assignment, Marx finally delivered it 21 years after those laws were abrogated, which might explain why he doesn't seem to have been paid very much for that work....
A bit of a problem with Marx and wishing he had never happened, is his philosophy was so obvious, pretty shallow, and in line with a lot of what was in the air at the time. We would've just gotten another version of that stupidity. That it still gets any traction at all, knowing what we know, is mind-boggling.
I was thinking the same thing, because all of the shit made by Marx and the woke fools that he inspired were allowed to proliferate in our society with the permission of our politicians and bureaucrats, and if they were fine with that rubbish ruining society that shows that they had the same petty and elitist mindset as the Marxists all along or at the very minimum didn't care about what happens after they died as long as their own children were set and they could live their final years with their pension. Just look at how David Lloyd George (the PM of the UK during WW1) sponsored Emmeline Pankhurst's anti male terrorist group and used them to shame men to fight as part of the white feather campaign, if that was the sorts of people who was in charge all the way back in the 1910s then the rise of a new breed of institutional stupidity were inevitable, because in hindsight it's quite apparent that even during the "good old days" ( in the sense of not having today's crap) of our parents and grandparents we were on borrowed time all along.
I agree, Marxism isn't the disease but a symptom of it.
I bet Hitler read "On The Jewish Question" and got some ideas.
i know you didnt
@@islandred
Nice rebuttal buddy. Truly coomunist knows how to clap back.
@@islandredok jew
Jesus Christ.. so it was Marx that brainwashed Hitler and turned him into a mass murdering inhuman monster?!
Tik has an excellent video on that, actually.
Imperator Knight, this was an outstanding marathon and probably puts you in amongst a very small handful of people who have actually had the diligence to work through what Karl Marx was all about and how Das Kapital was created. It is a shame that the illnesses that he reported to have, didn't collect him earlier. Perhaps it would've saved a few percent of the 1 hundred million dead, that communism has cost humanity. If Harold Wilson could get no further than Page two, I think that says it all. But well done and thank you for getting past page two.
How can I contact TIK?
I have some documents on the Nazis, they could help him out massively
@@PedroTomé1 no idea, just posted a comment, he's a good lad.
@@theadventuresofred19 I would love to contact him, because me and another guy edited the Wikipedia page on the economics of Germany and all our edits were deleted. I'm a socialist, but I want each side to be heard, honestly...
I am reminded of what my late father used to say that Communism hates the Church not because of being anti-spiritual but that Communism itself is a religion and hates all competition. I guess growing up in a family where one side was communist and the other side an old city family (bourgeoisie) while both sides were very well educated and reasonable gives a very interesting perspective.
Not anti-spiritual. Anti-God. Anti-Christ. Marx was very spiritual... in the worst possible ways.
Whose side are you on?