I kept saying if we didn’t see a manual Supra, this Z would be the last of the best manual cars to exist. I really think in a couple years, they’ll do away manuals and push electric sport cars. Tesla will release their roadster, which will be super expensive, but it will influence the industries to get competitive and make electrics of their own.
@@FatalFist Well it’s to be expected. Emission regulations are gonna force car companies to stop making ICE vehicles altogether. When that happens, I suspect that these cars will shoot up in value despite the cost of owning one.
I don’t think so, almost all cars in Europe have a manual option and almost all cars are made to option, barely any dealership has any cars on their lot as there isn’t any interest in that, just for end of the year sales. It’s cheap to put in a manual for the European manufacturers, it never costs much to even design that. I believe many are here to stay and Porsche will definitely make manual EVs
@@ibeentossinaunties the R35 has been around for almost 15 years, it’s outdated as hell and overpriced. It was an amazing car in 2008 but now it’s just desperately trying to cling on
@@soapa4279 the differences are pretty major, the fuel injectors and fuel pumps have been upgraded, I believe the heat exchanger was also upgraded. this car should be substantially better especially when you consider the weight difference
@@HarryTwatter can vouch for this. My turbos blew at 17k miles and had coolant issues. Luckily all I had was an aftermarket exhaust at the time and they replaced under warranty. Another thing to note is to swap out the turbos on this car you need to drop the engine which is a bitch in itself if you tried to do it yourself or pay someone to do it as its much more work. Would never buy another Nissan product. This isnt just my experience either but countless others Ive seen post about it in the FB groups over the 2 years I owned it. People will find out this 3.0 motor is not very reliable themselves tho
Very delighted that the marketing focus on ‘engagement’ and ‘drivers car’ was not pure bullshit. Looks like Z team really cared about making this a fun and meaningful street/sports car.
They did a great job on this design and performance set up on the new Nissan Z. Honestly I love this car, it is pure JDM performance at its finest even with the new technology integrated into it.
@@jetstream454 Oh😂 Its kinda funny how people say jdm not japanese cuz “it is pure japanese domestic market performance at its finest” doesnt really make sense
Really great style cues to the original Datsun Z's as well are previous Nissans. Seems like a very fun car! There's a pretty audible sound from the turbos too, which is great! I can imagine the aftermarket for this car should be pretty wild.
You’ll be able too, it’s just a matter of someone figuring it out. Like with the 10th gen civic it’s a sequence with the traction button and the brake pedal. No big deal.
I'm picking up my 2022 GR86 this week, but I sure do love Nissan's new Z! We should consider ourselves lucky that our favorite manufacturers are still producing fun to drive sports cars like these, in this era of crossovers and electrification. Happy motoring, everyone!
Hope you're enjoying it! It's kind of sad that these are really the only two FR sport coupes nowadays. Otherwise you have boring souped up typical traffic cars like the TRD Camry or the new Civic Type R.
Hey there, i saw that you considered a Z! I am from a Nissan dealership and reaching out to everyone in the market for one because we just got one! Feel free to reach out to let me know if you are interested!
Awesome review!! Can’t believe I’m saying this about a Nissan, but I really like this thing. Shows that Nissan can do great things when given the opportunity. I can honestly say I’d much rather have this over the Supra, for the value factor (significantly cheaper than a similarly powered Supra), the suspension design, and the looks. The blue is fantastic on this car. Also, the fact that it stil has a mechanical handbrake is a huge plus.
@@MT-xl8jy not all of us want a German built engine though. I don't really care how "refined" it is when I have work on it or have it worked on. Cheaper, easier, and more reliable to keep it jdm.
@@enjoiandrew4 BMW's inline six performance engines have some of the best reliability in the game, takes power mods really well, and sound incredible. People don't realize Toyota worked w/BMW for this reason above all else? Nobody else has an engine that resembles what the MK4 2JZ had. JDM reliability 2000 and onward hasn't been spectacular in the performance world overall Everything from the S54 and similar to the B58/S58 have incredible reputation for a reason. Considering the performance trim on the new Z only runs ~3k cheaper than the 3.0 Supra, the manual variant of it coming for 2023 is going to make a lot of people "suddenly" say the GR Supra is a top tier car.
I'm a huge Nissan fan. Have only owned Nissan vehicles since 1992. I can count on one hand the number of times they have let me down (knock on wood). Currently have a 2015 Xterra Pro-4X with 90,000 miles. Only two small warranty issues in seven years. Also own a 2017 370Z 6MT which has been tastefully modded and is now at 48,000 miles. Drive the hell out of it and it has been super reliable so far. Can't believe Nissan came through and made the car I always wanted- will be getting this new Z in a couple years!
I think Nissan has made a future classic with this one. It'll be remembered in 20 years the same way we remember the 300zx. Beautiful design and enough potential to make monster power.
The review I've been waiting for Update.. this is definitely on my shortlist if I sell my LC500!!! Z, Supra, GR Corolla, or GR86... I like all of them Thanks for the review as always!!!
thought that price point was steep considering the lack of interior but the overall performance on this is amazing. Still a Type R fan, but this would be a legit consideration if i could afford cars in that bracket
As soon as I watched the smoking tires video I cam here. Your driving style is more of what I personally would want to do with the car in my area, over driving high speeds on big open roads. Great video and I really like how your videos cover more of the thought process if finding a new daily more than adding a 2nd or 3rd car
I’ve been waiting for this car for a long time. Glad to see the handbrake. At 3500 pounds I think it’s on the heavy side. I’m glad they made it. It looks awesome.
compared to some of newer cars it fits in perfectly I think, the Supra is only 100lbs lighter, the 2022 Audi S3 also weighs 3500lbs and the 2022 BMW M240i is 3800lbs.
this car is honestly amazing, not only does it capture alot of the older z's but in this day in age of boring ass looking cars, this is so far my #1 looking car out the 2020's Edit: also damn, 15psi for 400hp this is a lovely machine
psi isnt really the metric you wanna use, how much volume of air that is being forced upon that psi is what really matters, but i also totally understand what your saying and 15 psi is quite lovely indeed
@@Mr.Thermistor7228 yeah. I don’t know too much about turbo power / metrics. I don’t even use PSI here. Apparently it’s BAR but I’ve played too many car games to understand BAR lol
Nice to see you do videos in my backyard🔥🔥! Especially the one I've been waiting 3 years for haha! And I only wanted to see you review this man! Nice work as always!
I wonder if an aftermarket blowoff valve or wastegate would be good here. Some fluttering and phsst sounds when letting off throtle would improve it 10x
Just got with intakes for that. This is a recirculating system so venting to air isn’t something you want to be doing to the engine. Pretty much guaranteed to make it run rich and wasting fuel.
@@esantiago8989 Nothing other than noise. Venting the air out drops boost pressure below the ECU’s target, so BOVs on a recirculating system just creates more turbo lag. They’re fine if the engine is designed to do this, but basically no modern turbo engines are.
@@marcusmcneal7453 I appreciate. I have a FBO N but don't have a bov and always worried if I should get one. I get plenty of turbo noise with my intake and hybrid turbo. It's a recirc system and my intake uses the stock recirc.
The great thing about this car is that it looks simple compared to all modern cars that are made by designers and marketing departments. There are no fake grills/vents/exhaust/diffusers, it doesn’t pretend to be an electro. It is just a reincarnation of an old Fairlady
3.0 L Twin Turbo V6 is an awesome power plant & there is so many easy mods to make another 150 HP with tuning. This car has allot of potential & should be a real winner. Best Nissan has made other than the GT-R
The Nissan Z and Subaru WRX used to be comparable in terms of performance. That’s not the case anymore. Subaru really dropped the ball with the 2023 WRX. It needs 290 horsepower at least.
Unlike so many TH-camrs that abuse the manual transmission for very rough gear changes, you are very smooth and efficient when changing gears yourself in the 2023 Z.
Everyone seems to be saying the Supra has a better interior than the Z. Am I missing something here? The Z seems to have the same if not much better interior, look at all of the nice gadgets they’ve added to the Z. The Supra has a tiny infotainment, smaller dash with less information, etc. As a big MK5 fan, I still think the Z’s interior is better.
At first I thought it was ugly, but the more I studied it the more I realized it looks a lot like the original z. A modern looking version of the Fairlady
3500 lbs seems pretty good stock. that engine is a beast! the only thing i would mod if i bought it would be the rear end. love the limited slip, but not necessarily the gearing.
I love this car, although it seems underwhelming compared to what I'd hoped for... also the interior seems a little too low end or old for a $50k car... and the sounds when closing doors sound a little cheap too.... still LOVE how this pays homage to the older cars, I also love how the center air vents have a similar look to the cutouts on the front grille....
@@yamabushi_nate7825 yeah, at $60k you’re getting into c7 corvettes, ZL1s, used m3 etc. these new car prices are ridiculous. This Z is nice but I’m seeing a $35-40k car here.
Looks surprisingly good! But for the same price you can get a camaro 2ss 1le... which is in a different league performance wise... assuming you like the looks! This was the choice I made
Definitely agree hell found a few 2022 1SS 1LE for 44-45K 100 pounds heavier but more power and better interior also sounds ways better no lift shifting auto rev matching ….the list goes on…..I’ll be getting a 1SS 1LE this year for sure
Been back and forth between this and the supra for me - think after seeing this the supra is my clear choice. Supra has a more upscale look inside and out I feel, the supra sounds better, supra has better fuel economy, I don't mind the lack of manual and I don't really like the black top on the Z. I will say the Z has better color options and looks fantastic from the rear, and it looks like a great car all things considered.
The Supra has a way newer chassis and drivetrain, way nicer interior, better mileage, and will hold its value better. I really love that Nissan made this new Z, and I think it's great aesthetically but relative to the Supra in that $50k range it's a tough sell IMO. But at least it was done in-house vs being farmed out...
Just wait for the manual Supra to come and test drive both. After seeing the 400z, I have no regrets lol. The only downside is that you see mkv's everywhere. I would love to test drive the 400z though!
Nice car, as a Z enthusiast i see this being a good all around sports car for most. But I’ll stick with my 370z , getting a used 370 and maybe going for a single turbo or SC if ur looking for more power. Its probably a cheaper and better option for some. Plus the curb weight of 3600 ish is kinda meh for a sports car like this
In other words. I can’t afford the payments so I’m gonna stick to my clapped out 370 and make it seem like it isn’t just about the price so my ego gets a boost. Good work.
Great looking car no doubt. I just wish they had a mid trim which only included lsd and bigger brakes. At $45-46k that would of been such a bargain. But business is business lol
It would be cool if they sold performance part a la carte from the dealer. Would be cool to buy it at 40 and be able to get a diff and brake kit, but nah 🥺
This car….It’s going to age well. Most cars that come out today, I see being ugly AF in 20 years. This won’t be one of those. If…Tastefully modified too 👌🏻
Most cars that come out today are ugly af today lmao. The Nissan Z grew on me a bit but I'm still kind of iffy on the front end. At least we know it's all functional. Otherwise the only car that I think looks good is the GR86. Everything else is just ugly. WRX ugly, Civic Type R ugly, Integra looks like a grandpa car, every single BMW for like the last 5 years has been god awful ugly.
I remember the 240Z. I had a 240Z toy as a child; it was yellow. If I had 50 grand to throw down on a sports car, the Z is what I would buy. I have a Chevy van I need for my wheelchair etcetera. If I wanted to take a lovely lady to dinner and a movie walking with my crutches, this car is impressive and perfect. There is enough room on the dash on the passenger's side for ten painted toes and enough room for 2 beverages between us. If I can't get the original 240Z from my childhood, this is where it's at. 😉
Because a little more is probably to expensive already. A little more would be spending 60k and at around 50k was probably more than you wanted to spend so probably should just go base and do mods yourself for a reasonable price.
@@occckid123 I still think Japanese sport cars are looked at as a good buy because of reliability and low cost compared to the Germans. Look at this Topher guy he drives new cars everyday and he bought a very affordable BRZ. Even if you can afford $50k doesn't mean it's a good value or affordable.
I think it would be a better idea if manual transmission cars did not have the rev-match feature available on the cars. Requiring drivers to learn proper shifting techniques on a manual transmission cars lets the driver experience the purity of the manual transmission engine.
I like the movement of the shift lever when taking off the gas and starting, it means that the connection between the driver and the drivetrain is quite direct. :D
Hmm, I'm thinking you can tell if Topher likes the car by if and how he taps his feet together before he gets in! Thanks for this. Really a great car for a decent 2022 price!
In a world of dying manual sports cars, I am so happy to see Nissan make this car.
I kept saying if we didn’t see a manual Supra, this Z would be the last of the best manual cars to exist. I really think in a couple years, they’ll do away manuals and push electric sport cars. Tesla will release their roadster, which will be super expensive, but it will influence the industries to get competitive and make electrics of their own.
@@FatalFist Well it’s to be expected. Emission regulations are gonna force car companies to stop making ICE vehicles altogether. When that happens, I suspect that these cars will shoot up in value despite the cost of owning one.
I'm glad I got my Maxima with the 5 speed, I am going to get this Z with the six speed. In white. With the black top, black wheels.
I don’t think so, almost all cars in Europe have a manual option and almost all cars are made to option, barely any dealership has any cars on their lot as there isn’t any interest in that, just for end of the year sales. It’s cheap to put in a manual for the European manufacturers, it never costs much to even design that. I believe many are here to stay and Porsche will definitely make manual EVs
@@brimsum i still hope the majority of people will eventually see through the climate fraud fog
This is easily the best thing Nissan has produced in a long time.
the r35 still exists you know that right 😂
@@ibeentossinaunties for the price 😂
I think I'll just leave Supra behind this Z.
Everything nissan has produced recently tends to suicide itself so of course this is good
@@ibeentossinaunties the R35 has been around for almost 15 years, it’s outdated as hell and overpriced. It was an amazing car in 2008 but now it’s just desperately trying to cling on
Out of all the reviews, the Topher review is what matters
Savage Geese too!
Nah man, Savage Geese.
Don’t forget supercar blondie
@@squidwardshouse67 no
I always come here first. The others are just second best for me.
I admire the fact that the interior gives the old school yet modernized vibe to it. I dig it.
The interior is what I like the most. Looks so so good.
2023 with a classic hand brake.. damn thats getting rare nowdays lol
In North America, yes
@ can’t complain I got a 2024 wrx and still got a manual handbrake ahah
I love all the automotive journalists on TH-cam, but nothing quite puts you in the driver's seat like these POV reviews
I really like the body styling, it looks like a classic but so modern at the same time
You could say it's a modern relic.
Exactly. Other manufacturers should do this. A modern Honda prelude
@@anthonybelton-ford3124 that’s my 2011 Honda Accord lol. Big prelude with a manual v6.
I still think the 370Z is sexier.
See first appearance in Gran Turismo 7.
The incorporation of the cupholder on the door facing the vent was a genius move; never again will I have to sip on a warm pop on a summer's drive.
Can't wait to see what the Tuner community does with this platform.
Absolutely, they have a head start with the vr30, and I think the retro body kits are going to look killer
There is already a ton of people who tuned the Q60 Red Sport which has the same engine (with minor differences)
Z1 and racebox basically already have everything dialed in on the platform
@@soapa4279 the differences are pretty major, the fuel injectors and fuel pumps have been upgraded, I believe the heat exchanger was also upgraded. this car should be substantially better especially when you consider the weight difference
@@HarryTwatter can vouch for this. My turbos blew at 17k miles and had coolant issues. Luckily all I had was an aftermarket exhaust at the time and they replaced under warranty. Another thing to note is to swap out the turbos on this car you need to drop the engine which is a bitch in itself if you tried to do it yourself or pay someone to do it as its much more work. Would never buy another Nissan product. This isnt just my experience either but countless others Ive seen post about it in the FB groups over the 2 years I owned it. People will find out this 3.0 motor is not very reliable themselves tho
Very delighted that the marketing focus on ‘engagement’ and ‘drivers car’ was not pure bullshit. Looks like Z team really cared about making this a fun and meaningful street/sports car.
Man I love how it sounds from the inside, that note is just perfect... Can't wait to test drive one, and then take it home!
good luck finding one
They did a great job on this design and performance set up on the new Nissan Z. Honestly I love this car, it is pure JDM performance at its finest even with the new technology integrated into it.
Was this car sold for the Japan market?
@@jetstream454 car is not even for the public yet wym by was
@@lucasd534 Just having a dig at the overuse of the term "JDM" 😂
@@jetstream454 Oh😂 Its kinda funny how people say jdm not japanese cuz “it is pure japanese domestic market performance at its finest” doesnt really make sense
Pure JDM is at least 20% lighter. A car this heavy should have 4 seats and 4 doors as an excuse
8:43
I absolutely love the sound of the little whine in the background. Idk what it is but it sounds like a mini jet engine. This car is amazing
That’s the turbo I’d assume
Yeah the spool is intoxicating
This is an accurate and mon-biased review. Thanks a lot for the good content!
Really great style cues to the original Datsun Z's as well are previous Nissans. Seems like a very fun car!
There's a pretty audible sound from the turbos too, which is great! I can imagine the aftermarket for this car should be pretty wild.
cant even turn off traction control fully.
@@TheScottyp1 you can actually
@@bynjei2530 no even when you take it off fully it never really fully disengages
You’ll be able too, it’s just a matter of someone figuring it out. Like with the 10th gen civic it’s a sequence with the traction button and the brake pedal. No big deal.
@@TheScottyp1 exactly, it will be figured out
Nice review! As a 370z owner i appreciate how you compared it. I'm surprised how Nissan did this one good. I will consider this car for the future
Call me crazy, but I think this is the best sportscar package available. I absolutely love it!
@Jimmy Two Times No?
Was looking forward to this review, was worth the wait. Thank you for your spot on reviews!
This is going to give me an idea of what it really feels like to drive.
yeah..that's kinda what a POV video does, doesn't it now?..
@@PapaJoJ woah calm down Sherlock
@@adamafifrowigmailcom take your own advice
Finally !!!! Ive been waiting for Topher to drop this. IMO he is a master at driving a car with a manual transmission
Happy Nissan Z Party Chris
I'm picking up my 2022 GR86 this week, but I sure do love Nissan's new Z! We should consider ourselves lucky that our favorite manufacturers are still producing fun to drive sports cars like these, in this era of crossovers and electrification.
Happy motoring, everyone!
Hope you're enjoying it! It's kind of sad that these are really the only two FR sport coupes nowadays. Otherwise you have boring souped up typical traffic cars like the TRD Camry or the new Civic Type R.
@@BRZguy Thanks very much! Appreciate the kind reply!
Hey there, i saw that you considered a Z! I am from a Nissan dealership and reaching out to everyone in the market for one because we just got one! Feel free to reach out to let me know if you are interested!
Awesome review!! Can’t believe I’m saying this about a Nissan, but I really like this thing. Shows that Nissan can do great things when given the opportunity. I can honestly say I’d much rather have this over the Supra, for the value factor (significantly cheaper than a similarly powered Supra), the suspension design, and the looks. The blue is fantastic on this car. Also, the fact that it stil has a mechanical handbrake is a huge plus.
@@MT-xl8jy not all of us want a German built engine though. I don't really care how "refined" it is when I have work on it or have it worked on. Cheaper, easier, and more reliable to keep it jdm.
@@MT-xl8jy yupppp
@@enjoiandrew4 inline six is easier to work on. Your comment clearly displays you've never worked on a sports car before
You also get a mechanical handbrake vs electric handbrake on the Supra.
@@enjoiandrew4 BMW's inline six performance engines have some of the best reliability in the game, takes power mods really well, and sound incredible. People don't realize Toyota worked w/BMW for this reason above all else? Nobody else has an engine that resembles what the MK4 2JZ had. JDM reliability 2000 and onward hasn't been spectacular in the performance world overall
Everything from the S54 and similar to the B58/S58 have incredible reputation for a reason. Considering the performance trim on the new Z only runs ~3k cheaper than the 3.0 Supra, the manual variant of it coming for 2023 is going to make a lot of people "suddenly" say the GR Supra is a top tier car.
the POV video's hit differently, top notch.
Loving that blue interior. This car seems very promising, can't wait to drive one!
I'm a huge Nissan fan. Have only owned Nissan vehicles since 1992. I can count on one hand the number of times they have let me down (knock on wood). Currently have a 2015 Xterra Pro-4X with 90,000 miles. Only two small warranty issues in seven years. Also own a 2017 370Z 6MT which has been tastefully modded and is now at 48,000 miles. Drive the hell out of it and it has been super reliable so far. Can't believe Nissan came through and made the car I always wanted- will be getting this new Z in a couple years!
What a road to test the new Z on man, great work
I think Nissan has made a future classic with this one. It'll be remembered in 20 years the same way we remember the 300zx. Beautiful design and enough potential to make monster power.
If I remember those brakes are Akibono from the Old 370z, not Brembo. At least according to Savage Geese
I love how vibrant the colors look on the Nissan Z, from the blue to the Yellow in Proto Spec, they look very bright and catch my eyes.
The review I've been waiting for
Update.. this is definitely on my shortlist if I sell my LC500!!! Z, Supra, GR Corolla, or GR86... I like all of them
Thanks for the review as always!!!
The only review you should watch
your selling a lc500 for those? ser.....
lc500 should be way better than those cars?
dude LC500 for GR corolla? rly?
You're not selling an LC for one of those, c'mon
That is a breath of fresh air. Fantastic little coupe.
I can't wait until I'm able to get one in like 3 years lol. Started saving at the beginning of this year 😞
The Z brings a retro-futuristic design.
thought that price point was steep considering the lack of interior but the overall performance on this is amazing. Still a Type R fan, but this would be a legit consideration if i could afford cars in that bracket
As soon as I watched the smoking tires video I cam here. Your driving style is more of what I personally would want to do with the car in my area, over driving high speeds on big open roads. Great video and I really like how your videos cover more of the thought process if finding a new daily more than adding a 2nd or 3rd car
I’ve been waiting for this car for a long time. Glad to see the handbrake. At 3500 pounds I think it’s on the heavy side. I’m glad they made it. It looks awesome.
compared to some of newer cars it fits in perfectly I think, the Supra is only 100lbs lighter, the 2022 Audi S3 also weighs 3500lbs and the 2022 BMW M240i is 3800lbs.
haven't driven it yet and i am already in love
this car is honestly amazing, not only does it capture alot of the older z's but in this day in age of boring ass looking cars, this is so far my #1 looking car out the 2020's
Edit: also damn, 15psi for 400hp this is a lovely machine
psi isnt really the metric you wanna use, how much volume of air that is being forced upon that psi is what really matters, but i also totally understand what your saying and 15 psi is quite lovely indeed
@@Mr.Thermistor7228 yeah. I don’t know too much about turbo power / metrics. I don’t even use PSI here. Apparently it’s BAR but I’ve played too many car games to understand BAR lol
@@DistanceCinematics yea i was just yankin your chain to throw a little tidbit of info to you lol and yes barrrrrrr
The review is on point brother. You are the best. Kudos.
I’m excited to see what aftermarket support this will have in the coming months/years:)
i can not thank you enough for your videos. keep them up!
This and the GR Corolla are extremely tempting. I wish I had money.
same same haha... ill stick w the GR 86
Nice to see you do videos in my backyard🔥🔥! Especially the one I've been waiting 3 years for haha! And I only wanted to see you review this man! Nice work as always!
I wonder if an aftermarket blowoff valve or wastegate would be good here. Some fluttering and phsst sounds when letting off throtle would improve it 10x
Just got with intakes for that. This is a recirculating system so venting to air isn’t something you want to be doing to the engine. Pretty much guaranteed to make it run rich and wasting fuel.
@@marcusmcneal7453 no benefit to a bov?
@@esantiago8989 Nothing other than noise. Venting the air out drops boost pressure below the ECU’s target, so BOVs on a recirculating system just creates more turbo lag. They’re fine if the engine is designed to do this, but basically no modern turbo engines are.
@@marcusmcneal7453 I appreciate. I have a FBO N but don't have a bov and always worried if I should get one. I get plenty of turbo noise with my intake and hybrid turbo. It's a recirc system and my intake uses the stock recirc.
i love the callback to the 240z body style, i just wish the headlights were more round like the earlier models
Damn that blue looks soo gooood!
The great thing about this car is that it looks simple compared to all modern cars that are made by designers and marketing departments. There are no fake grills/vents/exhaust/diffusers, it doesn’t pretend to be an electro. It is just a reincarnation of an old Fairlady
Now they just need to bring the s chassis back
The review we have been waiting for
I've been wanting this car for a while, but now idk if I can part with my mach 1. Manual supra might be the only proper upgrade
i would definitely keep the mustang if its a manual version.
@@jameskocks4734 of course it is 😎
Keep the stang dude!
If you have a stang then the Supra would be the one that makes sense.
3.0 L Twin Turbo V6 is an awesome power plant & there is so many easy mods to make another 150 HP with tuning. This car has allot of potential & should be a real winner. Best Nissan has made other than the GT-R
50K plus for a sport model + dealer markup = no freaking way
Very good. Excellent review I’m old person and I enjoyed listening. Thanks
The Nissan Z and Subaru WRX used to be comparable in terms of performance. That’s not the case anymore. Subaru really dropped the ball with the 2023 WRX. It needs 290 horsepower at least.
Different price target though no? Z is less accessible to younger consumers
@@genetheemoji4731 Not at all. The WRX Limited and the Z Sport cost exactly the same amount.
@@cajunotaku3256 I just meant comparing base car to base car… there is a slight disparity in pricing, but I see your point
Unlike so many TH-camrs that abuse the manual transmission for very rough gear changes, you are very smooth and efficient when changing gears yourself in the 2023 Z.
If it couldn’t handle banging gears it wouldn’t be very fun would it.
Everyone seems to be saying the Supra has a better interior than the Z. Am I missing something here? The Z seems to have the same if not much better interior, look at all of the nice gadgets they’ve added to the Z. The Supra has a tiny infotainment, smaller dash with less information, etc.
As a big MK5 fan, I still think the Z’s interior is better.
The Z has room for a 6'3" driver, and is not as claustrophobic as a Supra.
I appreciate the tapping your shoes clean every time you do it, even if it’s not my car. Look of new Z keeps growing on me.
HONDA, BRING BACK THE S2K!
At first I thought it was ugly, but the more I studied it the more I realized it looks a lot like the original z. A modern looking version of the Fairlady
3500 lbs seems pretty good stock. that engine is a beast! the only thing i would mod if i bought it would be the rear end. love the limited slip, but not necessarily the gearing.
@@HarryTwatter V6 Camaro weighs 3800lbs
@@cjohnson9211 the 6th gen v6 and lower trims are under 3400 pounds, 3376 i think. Pretty impressive to me
@@TheGennessy I see, so that's the "Alpha platform"...I was thinking of the prior generation
@@HarryTwatter Camaro chassis is great, but it's not gonna matter until they stop making them so ugly
Seeing so many z's passing gives me chills😍
I love this car, although it seems underwhelming compared to what I'd hoped for... also the interior seems a little too low end or old for a $50k car... and the sounds when closing doors sound a little cheap too.... still LOVE how this pays homage to the older cars, I also love how the center air vents have a similar look to the cutouts on the front grille....
$59k as tested. I’m not even entertaining the idea of a $60k Z. Going to wait 2 or 3 years when they’re worth less than half that.
@@yamabushi_nate7825 yeah, at $60k you’re getting into c7 corvettes, ZL1s, used m3 etc. these new car prices are ridiculous. This Z is nice but I’m seeing a $35-40k car here.
The interior is amazing! The cars with the laptop screens are going to age horribly in the future. Glad this one is modest with it.
What a beauty. May have found my next ride.
Looks surprisingly good! But for the same price you can get a camaro 2ss 1le... which is in a different league performance wise... assuming you like the looks! This was the choice I made
The Z looks way better to me, I'm keeping my pre order. 58K CAD ain't cheap for the performance but it's also not bad compared to rivals.
Definitely agree hell found a few 2022 1SS 1LE for 44-45K 100 pounds heavier but more power and better interior also sounds ways better no lift shifting auto rev matching ….the list goes on…..I’ll be getting a 1SS 1LE this year for sure
i’m quite happy that i’m gonna have a type r and a 2023 nissan z in my garage by july
Been back and forth between this and the supra for me - think after seeing this the supra is my clear choice. Supra has a more upscale look inside and out I feel, the supra sounds better, supra has better fuel economy, I don't mind the lack of manual and I don't really like the black top on the Z. I will say the Z has better color options and looks fantastic from the rear, and it looks like a great car all things considered.
If you do want the manual, the Supra will be equipped with it soon
The Supra has a way newer chassis and drivetrain, way nicer interior, better mileage, and will hold its value better. I really love that Nissan made this new Z, and I think it's great aesthetically but relative to the Supra in that $50k range it's a tough sell IMO. But at least it was done in-house vs being farmed out...
Just wait for the manual Supra to come and test drive both. After seeing the 400z, I have no regrets lol. The only downside is that you see mkv's everywhere. I would love to test drive the 400z though!
@@DezNutzBich That's funny, I have yet to see a single MKV on the road, and very few at dealers. In SW FL.
We needed this so bad. Good shit Nissan !!!
Nice car, as a Z enthusiast i see this being a good all around sports car for most. But I’ll stick with my 370z , getting a used 370 and maybe going for a single turbo or SC if ur looking for more power. Its probably a cheaper and better option for some. Plus the curb weight of 3600 ish is kinda meh for a sports car like this
In other words. I can’t afford the payments so I’m gonna stick to my clapped out 370 and make it seem like it isn’t just about the price so my ego gets a boost. Good work.
@@cultureeeeee3599 I mean if you think a 10 000 mile 370 is clapped out sure man 🙂
Keep your 370....Id get a Nismo will be worth a lot more and looks way better.
Excellent no BS review, good job and thanks.
Great looking car no doubt. I just wish they had a mid trim which only included lsd and bigger brakes. At $45-46k that would of been such a bargain. But business is business lol
It would be cool if they sold performance part a la carte from the dealer. Would be cool to buy it at 40 and be able to get a diff and brake kit, but nah 🥺
It sounds like that is going to happen- probably with the 2024 model.
What a way to start the week! Thanks man.
The front end still hasn't grown on me.
best channel on youtube
This car….It’s going to age well. Most cars that come out today, I see being ugly AF in 20 years. This won’t be one of those. If…Tastefully modified too 👌🏻
Im from the future … you were right.
@@slowgoat6089 tell me future, am I better off without my ex? 😂
BRZ/86 also
Most cars that come out today are ugly af today lmao. The Nissan Z grew on me a bit but I'm still kind of iffy on the front end. At least we know it's all functional. Otherwise the only car that I think looks good is the GR86. Everything else is just ugly. WRX ugly, Civic Type R ugly, Integra looks like a grandpa car, every single BMW for like the last 5 years has been god awful ugly.
The VR30 is such a badass engine the fact its not been a MT is a dis service as a Q50S owner I really want the new Z.
The Rev hang is Dissapointing.
The 350 and 370 had no Rev Hang
Most modern cars with manuals rev hang for emissions reasons.
Many Hondas suffer from the rev hang issue. It can often be corrected with a tuner.
Good job Nissan. A Nissan I actually want, which hasn't happened since the 1990s. Nissan needs some exciting products.
64mph in second gear…. Very tall gears
I noticed that, wonder why they didn't make them a bit shorter
At the rev limit, that's not very tall it gives you a lot of flexibility
@@4Kandlez wdym? Well the 22 BRZ tops out around 55 or so in 2nd gear. 22 Civic SI around 50 mpg or so
@@Newyen6MT A Cayman GT4's 2nd gear tops out at 85 mph. That's what you call tall gearing.
I love the front end. It resembles the 240z so, so good.
Nice 2013 interior
I love brand new videos baby WOO
Those door handles scream 2003
I'm just glad that they're body color and not chrome.
I remember the 240Z. I had a 240Z toy as a child; it was yellow. If I had 50 grand to throw down on a sports car, the Z is what I would buy. I have a Chevy van I need for my wheelchair etcetera. If I wanted to take a lovely lady to dinner and a movie walking with my crutches, this car is impressive and perfect. There is enough room on the dash on the passenger's side for ten painted toes and enough room for 2 beverages between us. If I can't get the original 240Z from my childhood, this is where it's at. 😉
When you start to pay $50k you have to wonder why you wouldn't just go to something better looking or more luxurious for a little more.
bc its a sports car, people look more at numbers than looks and luxury
Because a little more is probably to expensive already. A little more would be spending 60k and at around 50k was probably more than you wanted to spend so probably should just go base and do mods yourself for a reasonable price.
?? its a sport car?
@@PK-lo6ws the Z was always a sports car.
@@occckid123 I still think Japanese sport cars are looked at as a good buy because of reliability and low cost compared to the Germans.
Look at this Topher guy he drives new cars everyday and he bought a very affordable BRZ. Even if you can afford $50k doesn't mean it's a good value or affordable.
Nice review Topher! Been watching this guy's reviews for a long time, and I still have no idea what he looks like, LOL
Mostly just a GoPro hero 8, some beard, and the other face parts arranged in the usual places.
@@TheTopher You're not a robot that doesn't need to eat or sleep, and just drive around reviewing cars?
I just don't trust nissans reliability. I'd go supra or type R
Definitely want to get one. Thanks Nissan!
I think it would be a better idea if manual transmission cars did not have the rev-match feature available on the cars. Requiring drivers to learn proper shifting techniques on a manual transmission cars lets the driver experience the purity of the manual transmission engine.
Meh. Disagree
Sold. That thing looks awesome.
I like how the interior door handle can double as another water bottle holder.
I like the movement of the shift lever when taking off the gas and starting, it means that the connection between the driver and the drivetrain is quite direct. :D
Exact one I'm getting!! Can't wait.
Just bought a frontier, will probably buy this after 😂🤙 this is a very good review
Two cup holders!!!! Count em TWO! I’m sold..
The gray one without the spoiler is looking hella fine
Dude if I get this car, idk what color I would go for. Blue, red, gray all look amazing.
The near instant startup of the infotainment screen is such an underrated feature in this car
Hmm, I'm thinking you can tell if Topher likes the car by if and how he taps his feet together before he gets in! Thanks for this. Really a great car for a decent 2022 price!
thats very rare case, when cars switched from HPS to EPS, normally they will got worse for steering feedback, but not for this car lol.
The most awaited video!