@@AbbeyThoughts pretty sure they're the same piece, and that bubbles don't appear in every mold. Could be wrong, but I've had bubbles in recent sets of mine.
The lukes are so similar you had them swapped in thr comparidon lmfao. The older had the more clear blade whereas the newer one has the more foggy sort of milky blade
I bought the old one ($110 sealed) a few days before the images came for the newer one. Absolutely no regrets. It’s essentially the same thing, but with updated figures, slight redesigns and a price increase. The only thing I be regretting about not buying the newer one is that newer Vader...like damn that arm printing takes the figure to a while new level! But the newer one is still a very good opportunity for people to snag it who missed out on the one released in 2015.
Mand R: they don’t include Palpatine lightning bolts in the new one. Also MandR 2 seconds later: This is where you can store his lighting bolts in the new one.
I think we should really familiarize ourselves with location remakes like these. It's very akin to the vehicle remakes we've already come to know. The shorter the time between releases, the less amount of "upgrades" they can really do, but LEGO considers every three years a fresh generation of kids, and it would make perfect sense to appeal to them as their the majority in the market.
I had no idea there was an older set. I was so happy when I saw the 2020 one. Return of the Jedi was my favorite Star Wars movie growing up, and I absolutely loved Luke with his green saber. This set was an instant impulse purchase for me when I saw it on the shelves. 10/10 one of my favorite sets of 2020. Certainly my favorite under the 100 dollar mark. It gets hard to compete against the big sets
I usually go with the newer versions, but this time I would say that I liked the 2015 set better. Palpatine’s hood on the 2020 version just wasn’t accurate at all. He actually had this neck clasp that held the bottom of his hood together. And, I liked the little detail on the main reactor where Vader hauls down Palpatine. The 2020 version put a lot of detail in the reactor, but I think they overdid it a little there. But in the 2020 version, there are some things I like about it too. The Vader minifigure had neat printing on his arms. I like that. But overall, I like the 2015 one better.
This set is my favourite lego set, which might sound weird, seeing as there are loads of other sets out there, but I really like the design, and the original brought a lot of new things to the table.
I’m almost certain the old one also had a gold hilt for palpatines lightsaber. Seriously, the first one is the only set I currently own that includes palpatine, and my one has a golden lightsaber hilt
@[MandRproductions] As to which set is more movie accurate, they each swapped what they had inaccurate and what they had true to the movie: in Return of the Jedi, both the catwalk to which Luke jumped and the reactor shaft down which Sidious was thrown are to the throne's right/entrance's left. Also, I agree with you regarding the hood. The old hood fits him perfectly, whereas the new hood not only exposes the neck piece of the cape, but also makes Palpatine's head look taller than it actually is. I hope and pray everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving this year.
Idk, I might buy it but I'm also a proud owner of the 2002 version and I can't really decide on whether I should keep a more old fashioned Lego imperial base or whether I should renew it a bit.
I just realized that Ryan used the 2020 Luke for 2015, There was no real difference on the figures but the light saber on 2020 has no bubbles on the insides and generally looks cleaner looks cleaner.
The main reason I don't like the newer hood being on Palpatine is that, if you look at the movie(s), his hood is much closer to the look of the original hood. Also, it's what they have in the Holiday Special.
This set reminds me why I love lego star wars. Iove to nerd out about this scene from episode 6 and I love being able to recreate it with such nice attention to detail. This is a great set for younger audiences that like original trilogy.
I was very surprised to see this set as a remake this year and am pleased with the upgrades. Unfortunately, I bought the old set about a year ago, so unless I find a deal it’ll likely be a pass for me
Can’t wait to get this, it’s my favourite scene from my favourite movie ever. I do wish instead of the smiley smirk on Luke it was a look of pain whilst he is getting zapped by lightning. Either way it’s a huge upgrade from my final Duel sets 1 and 2 back from the yellow ages. P.S I don’t ever remember the 2015 one.
Ryan: The 2020 set doesn’t have lightning.
Also Ryan: Here is where the lightning on the 2020 set goes.
I was thinking the same thing
Same here
How did that happen?
Linda Kintu a fucking typo
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodb7585 what the hell?
Ryan: The new Set doesn’t have Sith Lightning.
Also Ryan: You lift off this top section and you reveal Palpatines Sith Lightning!
i died laughing
Lmao
I’m confused does the set have it or no?
@@Jckr9158 yes
flyingscotmanfan 1001 thanks, I was worried bc I just ordered one online😂
Imagine during ROTJ if Palpatine was like “Hold on Luke I gotta grab my lighting from the basement, brb”
Lol
If lego ever make a legoafied version of that duel, I hope they would do that
You just predicted the scene in the lego star wars skywalker saga trailer ….
Lol 😂
lol
7:38 "the older set has lightning pieces for Palpatine and the newer set doesn't"
8:27 "you can see Palpatine's lightning bolts"
I thought about that too
Yes
He never said that
Ryan: "2020 set has no lightning pieces"
Also Ryan: "so here's the lightning lol"
Ikr
Which one is it???
Yeah I seen/herd that to
He's wrong. Jang shows the lightening.
@@RaechelSykes Read my comment again, but slowly ;)
3:34 “The Luke minifigures seem pretty close to identical” says Ryan as he puts the 2020 figure on the left instead of the right.
How can you tell? lmao
Scott Krafft New Luke has the newer style of Lightsaber piece, which is clear and doesn’t have bubbles.
@@AbbeyThoughts pretty sure they're the same piece, and that bubbles don't appear in every mold. Could be wrong, but I've had bubbles in recent sets of mine.
Orson Lepherd no, hes right, they don’t have bubbles anymore 👍🏻
@@KerioFive cool my bad
7:28 handcuffs to use for roleplay, JEEZ ryan i thought this was a kids channel
Lmfao
I nearly died of laughter
And the Oscar Award for funniest comment of 2020 goes to Dave29
kinky
Lmao 😂 I’m going to die of laughter rn
We want a comparison of all Luke's Landspeeder (1999 to 2020)
He would need a bigger table lol
There are to many of them you would get a headache trying to count them all.
There are like 6
He need to include the cantina ones too
@@Bob-lp2zf it's a joke.
Mandr: makes one tiny mistake.
Commenters: I smell profit!
I understood that reference
just2good: first time?
Except it was multiple mistakes
There isn’t much to compare honestly...
@Nathan Kuberski ooh I Jawa let's see what I can trade
Exactly 😂
the new set does have lightning pieces
“This is getting out of hand. There’s 2 of them”
i think its "this is getting out of hand! now there are 2 of them!"
@@billygray6776 ye he got that wrong
yoeur turtle and he edited it.
@@thatsruffdog wat do u mean?
Tip: Don’t insult me
You can just see thousands of 501st battle packs in the background
greedy sod.
yes you can see the battlepack
Bro he does have lightning in the new set
Yeah it's on the box art
Also seen in his set review😅
He even shows the place to put them when not in use
He points it out blearily a minute later too. I think he just forgot he put it in the storage area under the throne.
In the ss gameplay trailer the palpatine lighting scene is so funny
I think they should always add something like arm printing when they re-release sets to make them worth it.
@Bendyboy 26 imma be the guy: vader does have the arm print tho :p
The lukes are so similar you had them swapped in thr comparidon lmfao. The older had the more clear blade whereas the newer one has the more foggy sort of milky blade
Milk 😋
@@yashvarma5398 Better yet, blue milk. :-)
@@jameslovejoy9624 😋
@@jameslovejoy9624 better yet green milk 😋
@@joseph-iq5ug Better YET, choccy milk 😋
I bought the old one ($110 sealed) a few days before the images came for the newer one. Absolutely no regrets. It’s essentially the same thing, but with updated figures, slight redesigns and a price increase. The only thing I be regretting about not buying the newer one is that newer Vader...like damn that arm printing takes the figure to a while new level! But the newer one is still a very good opportunity for people to snag it who missed out on the one released in 2015.
LegoDarthVaderStudio we if u get the bespin duel set ull already get the new cader
Golden1_1Dragon yes but it is only a North American exclusive release only. Not all lego fans are Americans.
P
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Lm
Could have saved some money tho
Pockets on Shrek Yeah $10 but never mind. Getting the old one sealed was such a good deal tho.
Ive always wanted the original Death Star Final Duel, Im glad I have the chance to get it again, BUT I'D RATHER GET 501ST BATTLE PACKS!
Shooter playz ok boomer
LegoDarthVaderStudio bruh
J4studios x4 lol sorry i could help my self lol
Le Gonk I’m probably older than you assume.
@Le Gonk bruh ur 9
Corporate needs you to find the difference between these pictures
There the same picture
Mand R: they don’t include Palpatine lightning bolts in the new one. Also MandR 2 seconds later: This is where you can store his lighting bolts in the new one.
What does have to do Palestine here?
Palestine's in star wars
Xd Palestine
Palpitine
When putting these side by side there’s actually a decent amount of differences
2020 is better, but just by a tiny bit, considering how similar the two sets are.
There is lightning on the newer one 😆 8:33
*there
@@troytafreshi8173 my phone auto corrected me lol
"Obi-Wan has taught you well" ...When Luke has the high ground
I think we should really familiarize ourselves with location remakes like these. It's very akin to the vehicle remakes we've already come to know. The shorter the time between releases, the less amount of "upgrades" they can really do, but LEGO considers every three years a fresh generation of kids, and it would make perfect sense to appeal to them as their the majority in the market.
Says lightning is absent, 10 seconds later , you can find palpatine's lightning under his chair
I had no idea there was an older set. I was so happy when I saw the 2020 one. Return of the Jedi was my favorite Star Wars movie growing up, and I absolutely loved Luke with his green saber. This set was an instant impulse purchase for me when I saw it on the shelves. 10/10 one of my favorite sets of 2020. Certainly my favorite under the 100 dollar mark. It gets hard to compete against the big sets
Thanks for all the great vids mandr, you’re the youtuber that’s still keeping me hooked on lego. I bet this will be a great review as well!!!
I think this is a good set but if lego would have just made a fricking ATTE this wave would have been so much better. Maybe we’ll get one in January.
Anyone else think it’s wierd how both of these sets have the senate entrance from the prequels even though the entrance in rotj is an elevator
@Leroy Jenkins To be honest, that has always bugged me just a little bit.
To be honest, I dont give a shit
I love that MandR has about 20 501st battle packs in the background
Actually there is more than 30.
@@Lego_Chewbacca I'm not surprised. MandR has been looking forward to this battle pack since before it was announced
@@mossyproductions7451 Yeah it is great it has been made. I am just Sufferings when seeing all those battle pack and having myself only 1.
@@Lego_Chewbacca one more than me :(
4:17 you can see that the Lukes looked so similar that he swapped them. You can tell by the green lightsaber piece. The older style had bubbles
That’s funny
Combine the longer extension and jump feature from the 2015 set, with the 2020 set and you have a really great set!
Fantastic presentation and comparison of the sets.
Never clicked on a video so fast lol
Me not 😔
Yea me too XD
Who
Everyone else’s comment: Lighting bolts!
Me: **throws the new hood piece into a bonfire**
I usually go with the newer versions, but this time I would say that I liked the 2015 set better.
Palpatine’s hood on the 2020 version just wasn’t accurate at all. He actually had this neck clasp that held the bottom of his
hood together. And, I liked the little detail on the main reactor where Vader hauls down Palpatine. The 2020 version put a lot of detail in the reactor, but I think they overdid it a little there. But in the 2020 version, there are some things I like about it too. The Vader minifigure had neat printing on his arms. I like that. But overall, I like the 2015 one better.
I think the old hood works better for Palpatine because he has that hood clasp that keeps the hood ends connected, like how it is in the old hood
I Want to know ur opinion, is better the death star 2020 or kylos shuttle 2019? Thanks
I have Kylo Ren's Shuttle and it is way better in my opinion, especially for display.
Id say death star is better to play but kylos shuttle looks cooler
death star duel
2019
Kylo REN
I love that he talks about playability and not realism like other review channels. I mean its made for kids to play with and not to look at.
“The old one had lightning, which is lacking in the new one”
5 seconds later; “ Under the throne on the new one you can find palpatines lightning”
Man playing with all of the lego you own must be fun.
I like the older gray version of Palpatine more than the yellowish/orangish-gray color, the new one looks like he has Cheeto dust on it.
This set is my favourite lego set, which might sound weird, seeing as there are loads of other sets out there, but I really like the design, and the original brought a lot of new things to the table.
MandRproductions: says the two side builds connected are flimsy and move around
Also MandRproductions: Ignores clips to connect it to the walkway
I think u forgot to flip the blue things on the top up for the 2020 one
Nope,they are supposed to be down.
@@arctrooperjesse7582 The box shows them in the up position.
outsider238 that’s what I thought
Arc Trooper Jesse
Just built the set today. Instructions tell you to flip them up
Lego4Life Productions yea
I’m almost certain the old one also had a gold hilt for palpatines lightsaber. Seriously, the first one is the only set I currently own that includes palpatine, and my one has a golden lightsaber hilt
I broke the golden lightsaber from Sheev’s Arrest so I’ll take the one with the golden hilt any day of the year
7:33 the 2020 set had lighting though
@[MandRproductions] As to which set is more movie accurate, they each swapped what they had inaccurate and what they had true to the movie: in Return of the Jedi, both the catwalk to which Luke jumped and the reactor shaft down which Sidious was thrown are to the throne's right/entrance's left.
Also, I agree with you regarding the hood. The old hood fits him perfectly, whereas the new hood not only exposes the neck piece of the cape, but also makes Palpatine's head look taller than it actually is.
I hope and pray everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving this year.
There was technically one in 2018
On the Death Star!
Idk, I might buy it but I'm also a proud owner of the 2002 version and I can't really decide on whether I should keep a more old fashioned Lego imperial base or whether I should renew it a bit.
mom: ryan, enjoy the little things things in life
ryan: what a nice looking door
Thank you for this video so much! I don't know why, I've been waiting for it for a while pretty excited
Prices of sets are kinda mad tbh ill never understand why they charge so much for sets that aren't even that big
The arm printing on Vader is so good! I love it 😍
This is my dream set. I used to watch this movie on repeat just to see this duel again.
What is better Diagon Alley or Mos Eisley Cantina? (The new ones)
MOS EISLEY
David Thieriet BOTH
Mos eisley
Mos Eisley
Diagon alley, i dont like the new mos eisley.
The 2015 model was one of my first Star Wars sets and this is just nostalgic
Ryan: this set doesn’t have palpatine’s lighting
Also Ryan: so here you can see his lighting
I just realized that Ryan used the 2020 Luke for 2015, There was no real difference on the figures but the light saber on 2020 has no bubbles on the insides and generally looks cleaner looks cleaner.
Broski I think you made a mistake at the end of ur comment
I love that focussing on the Vaders. 👌👌
The main reason I don't like the newer hood being on Palpatine is that, if you look at the movie(s), his hood is much closer to the look of the original hood. Also, it's what they have in the Holiday Special.
what people see : ryan reviewing both sets
what is see : ryan physically torturing luke skywalker
So where we can have an update for this final duel but not Palpatine's arrest
The 2020 set does come with the lightning effect for Palms. Also I got mine for $90 retail at walmart.
Yea exact same for me too
I prefer the stiff capes so much more because the new ones are so hard to get straight and aren't as good for display
On the edge because of the price, If I ever find it for $75 or less I'll definitely buy it.
"Death Star Not-so-final Duel"
Anyone else think he was going to also use Final Duel 1 and 2 from back in the day?
I have the older one in a box, but the line at the end of the video "the new set is better in every way" makes me think I'll be leaving it there haha
You should have included the 2002 set just for the fun of it, or even the UCS Death Star duel scenes which are more comparable
No, that would clearly look so much better than these sets. Way beyond comparison.
Luke Turpin U drunk? These ones are so much better than the ones in death stars and the 2002 one.
@@VaderBrix Whoops thought he was referencing a different set
@@deffonotluke yeah I think you're drunk lol
Where is final duel 1 and 2?
Ryan: this set has no lightning
Also Ryan: so here is the lightning
I can see the fan reflecting on left Vader's helmet during comparison xd 2:30
7:33 but the 2020 set also has lightning?
What happened to the value category?!
Ryan earlier in the video : the lightning is apsent
Ryan later in the video : you can remove this to reveal the lightning
This set reminds me why I love lego star wars. Iove to nerd out about this scene from episode 6 and I love being able to recreate it with such nice attention to detail. This is a great set for younger audiences that like original trilogy.
Everyone talking about the lightning thing but nobody’s talking about how there’s a different mold for the Imperial Guard helmets
"Hey can i copy your Homework?"
"Sure, just dont make it too obvious"
"Okay"
The homework:
Mandrpoductions be like
Arm print arm print arm print
Ok im glad everyone else already mentioned the lightning thats why I was gonna comment lol But good vid nonetheless
Damn we’ve had that new Darth Vader helmet mold since 2015? Time flies!
That 501st collection it's growing too much, it's gonna be unstoppable
I was just looking at Worst to 1st 2020 summer and here we go.
The new hood piece works on some characters while others no. Hopefully the new one isn’t too wide spread and still have the older one.
If these were next to each other, I wouldn't even be able to tell which one is older
First ever full set so I am happy that they made a new one
I was very surprised to see this set as a remake this year and am pleased with the upgrades. Unfortunately, I bought the old set about a year ago, so unless I find a deal it’ll likely be a pass for me
Good thing is that Walmart sells the new Death Star Duel for $90 instead of $100.
i like the golden lightsaber hilt better, since in the movies and clone wars the guy has a LOT of electrum built onto the hilt
Thanks for this video, please keep them up. I never owned the original so this will be awesome.
The lightsaver blades now have the bubbles in but back when the 2015 came out it was just a pole
I have a 15 years old royal guard and he’s the same. Kinda funny, very few characters are that consistent
1:29
That cheese piece is having a stroke
I like the 2020 set for details, and the older one for space. I got the 2020 one for christmas.
Bruh no cap 2015 is my favourite set I remember getting this for Christmas and I loved it so much it was so good
So... That's how Palpatine returned hey?
Can’t wait to get this, it’s my favourite scene from my favourite movie ever. I do wish instead of the smiley smirk on Luke it was a look of pain whilst he is getting zapped by lightning. Either way it’s a huge upgrade from my final Duel sets 1 and 2 back from the yellow ages. P.S I don’t ever remember the 2015 one.