LEGO Star Wars T-6 JEDI SHUTTLE COMPARISON! (7931 vs 75362 | 2011 vs 2023)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- I never thought I'd see a remake of the LEGO Star Wars 7931 Jedi T-6 Shuttle but with the Ahsoka show LEGO Star Wars has created the 75362 Ahsoka Tano's T-6 Jedi Shuttle and while it's smaller, it's got a better design, easier to use play functions, and a shockingly good Minifigure line-up.
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What I hate about Lego is so many ships that have interiors are downsized to single pilot interiors 😢
@@IntergalacticDustBunnywhy would the collector still support things like that to happen? Collectors are the worst. It's making all our set smallers. Thanks to collectors dumbness by feeding them so they can keep doing shitty products.
@@espguitarz1 I don't think this is the case. As mentioned above, the main reason is the shelf display tends to be most important for builders, and without making the ship to minifig scale (neither T-6 is minifig scale), they chose to shrink the cockpit/interior so the exterior looks nice. With a ship of that scale, you can't have both a minifig scale interior and proportional exterior. You have to choose. The only solution to this, of course, is to have a full model, which is why the more famous ships (like Luke's X-Wing) have a smaller playset ship and the full minifig scale ship.
It may not be what you want, but that's the reality of the scale they are marketing toward. Or do you want all the sets to either be larger interiors with bad proportions, or do you want them to be 3x as expensive to be full minifig scale?
@@gelatinguyyeah exactly. With this ship I don’t think you could even get to minifig scale without going full UCS, and even then Lego isn’t strong enough as a material to both incorporate the interior and look good on the outside at that sizd
@@Rievax17 One thing I'd like to see Lego do more often is to "Polly Pocket" a ship, which is what I call it when the interior doesn't match the exterior, but it's a fun playset inside. So make the outside look like a nice ship, then crack open the ship like a clam shell and have the interior be the cockpit or whatever is most interesting.
The cockpit undoubtedly took the biggest hit in the downsizing of the new set. Feels a little sad to only squeeze one fig in compared to almost 3 on the old one
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Definitely, especially considering this is a shuttle
But the size looks more accurate I'm the small version
@@TiagoDdAit's not. This is a fairly large ship. About five times larger than an X-wing in universe.
The Bad Batch “shuttle” was super small but still managed to fit 4 figures plus gear and was $80… being blinded by the figures in this Ahsoka set, its not a great set…
I love and miss the OG clone wars line. Just seeing the old clone wars sets is kinda nostalgic now. I miss when they paid more attention to that series. But maybe that's just me
Yeah same here
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Yo be fair, the reason they paid so much attention to TCW is because it was the only new Star Wars thing at the time.
Now we have all these D+ shows to make sets for. Couldn’t just be Clone Wars forever aha.
@@spargsyrebooted ik haha. Just sucks
@spargsyrebooted and we are getting a $650 UCS Venator in a month so I don't think it's been completely forgotten
I honestly prefer the rigid wing spin motion, it is really hard to get the Ahsoka shuttle to stay in one position, and the wing lock on the old one solves this issue perfectly
I think the downsized cockpit is a deal breaker for me. Major issue, and it really gives the ship a "small-scale" vibe. The immersion is broken, so to speak. Even though overall the new ship's design is nicer and the storage is good, the 1-minifigure space for the cockpit is just plain bad/inaccurate. This lack of space in the ships is a terrible trend recently - from Boba Fett's ship to this. What happened to creativity, like the one used for design of Razor Crest or Transport Scythe? I'd rather this ship to be $30-$40 more expensive but nail the interior space. It would be perfect then.
100% see where your are coming from here, but I will say with the scale they went the small cockpit does look good and a bigger cockpit wouldn’t look right. That being said I agree they should have made a bigger set entirely so more figures could fit in a larger scaled cockpit.
@@brennanhickey9156 scale is arbitrary… they could have scaled it up or down however they wanted. It could have gone Mando Gauntlet design and had two figures fit length wise too.
For $80 I’d want them to address the under side of the wings. It’s otherwise a great looking model. Might wait to see if I ends up on sale.
I hear that.
I was all excited to get one, then saw the bland as shit under carriage.
I’ll wait
Same, I was thinking it would be neat to display this ship in "flight mode" with the wings vertical like we see most of the time on screen. But lego ignoring the underwings basically kill that option.
i actually prefer the simpler design of the older model. it's way more clean and displayable, plus the new one has so many tiny little pieces that create a cluttered look
the underbelly does really matter if u want to display while it's spinning or somthing. I like the vertical look
For the record: u can indeed fit all four figs in there 😮💨
I like the new one better because the old one js had an UGH cockpit(it was oversized)
I’m a really big fan of the dark grey and red of the new one. It just looks so modern and satisfying. To bad it’s just a little to small, banger mini figs tho.
Ahsoka show version of the T-6 features an extra engine and that rear turret. The Clone Wars and Rebels models didn’t have that.
I like the new one’s body shaping more, the old one is super simple and round looking. I like the angles of the new one.
A bigger cockpit would need a bigger set, the next appropriate cockpit would be one like the Falcon uses. And I think they’d have to scale up the wings and body for it to not look too funny.
I agree the newer one is objectively a better set but that white and red color scheme just looks so clean.
I think it is a decent visual distinction between the eras. A clean Jedi Order era shuttle vs an older modded one post-Empire.
They definitely designed it to look junkier in Ahsoka than it did in the animated shows.
i like the red and grey because it looks more realistic, i mean these ships fly tru space and land on various planets. they will get dirty and gritty and the color will degrade so i think the grey is better then white.
ive been waiting for this video for MONTHS! FINALLY!
Lego does do more detail now. But they are inconsistent. They will give us an incredibly detailed Boba Fett in a $15 set but give characters like Commander Fox a blatantly inaccurate print in a $140 set, or not give Rex a waistcape in a $600 set
I still have my 2011 one and I will be getting this one!!
The new one has better detailed figures, and I like that the center has some good bulk. The old one has it seems more correct colors, and it is larger. Not to mention that they used red on both sides for the old one.
I still think I prefer the 2023
The wings on the old one really are only meant to be seen from the top. The red panels on the underside are only there to accent the top side and give it a red trim around the edge from the top view. The bottom view of the old one is pretty bad.
I wish they’d done like the Mandalorian fighter and paneled the bottom of the new one.
Celui de 2011 est un des premier set que j’ai eu donc je l’aime particulièrement
They're smaller. They're always...smaller 😕 inflation works both ways I guess 😪
This is a perfect example of shrinkflation. It has more pieces and costs more but is smaller. Lego uses TONS of small pices to achieve detail that I'd rather have done with stickers. There's also thr cockpit. The new one looks like something somebody would actually sut in but the old one was bigger and when it comes to toys, bigger is better.
Your comparison series are always some of my favorite videos you make! Especially in this video, the quality is great and more importantly the video is timeless! Great work Ryan! I like both the sets and will get the new 1!
The 2023 T-6 has a double layered win: they could have "simply" flipped that layer to make it less horrendous on the underside. Huge miss, but to be expected at the price point, as making such a flip stable would be more involved.
wow this is an excellent video. camera work, script, and content were all top notch. good stuff
I think if they kept the size the same and made even the slightest attempt to color-match the underside of the ship to the front side than that $80 price point would make perfect sense.
Love the comparisons man! Another daily upload let’s go!!!!!!
Maybe I'm alone in this but I honestly prefer flick fire over stud shooters. Ideally I prefer a designed weapon over either but I understand that playability is an important feature. I personally feel that most sets incorporated flick fires into the design of sets in a more visually pleasing way than most stud shooters.
Ask MNR. Do you think that we'll get a captain Rex in a less expensive set next year, and what set do you think that would be I think Rex's bomber would be awesome. Keep up the amazing work!
It's really hard to choose in that competition, because both models have their own good sides.
Personally, I prefer the original: the wing undersides and (to a lesser degree) the smaller cockpit are- to me- unforgiveable. I also have nostalgia for the original, as my brother has one and I love classic Clone Wars sets.
Lego has obviously gotten more technologically advanced and so is able to make their sets more movie accurate in terms of design, but apart from that I'd say the 2011 set trumps the 2023 set in every way. The 2011 set had more play features, it was bigger, it looked cooler (even if less accurate) and while the minifigures were obviously less detailed back then, the variety of minifigures is significantly better than the 2023 set. I'd also personally set the big engines of the older set look way better than the newer ones, and I've always preferred the flick-fire missiles to the stud shooters. In fact this is the first time I've heard anyone say they disliked flick-fire missiles or liked stud shooters lol. The smooth spinning of the new set can be a plus but it can also be a nuisance as it turns by itself when there is a slight bit of uneven weight distribution, I don't know about the old set's turning.
This is coming from someone who owns the 2023 set but not the 2011 set.
Erm I actually have a 2011 t6 in pieces somewhere. Was a kid who liked to take apart sets 😅😅😅
probably one of the best examples of how lego has changed over the years imo
I like the new design but white and dark red would have looked really sweet
Maybe the choice of light grey over white, was to show the wear and tear of the ship?
I just love comparisons
I love the newer mini figures. Even though the inquisitor has a black head, I feel like he’s one of, if not the best mini figure in this wave.
"...Spinning is a good trick..." should've seen that line coming lol
I think this is a great review. Some might disagree with the conclusions but they are clearly a matter of opinion. Even if you disagree with them, there is loads of information here to help you draw up your own. And there is no filler viewing the box from very angle or flicking through lots of instruction pages.
8:13 the two slope pieces on the 2023 version behind the cockpit are backwards
I actually like the new manuals better because it just shows you the stuff that you are going to build with the manual, and not un needed box art, which I do still think looks good on the box
10:40 They SET it apart from the old one? 😂😂😂 Nice, Ryan.
i remember when the old set came out and i miss those sets id happily buy both for $80
I 100% prefer flick missiles over studs. Personally I like the look of flick fire missiles and they’re nice to play with, you can’t lose them because they don’t shoot far and they can be used for other builds. Stud shooters look ugly and they’re a pain to play with because they get lost easily, can’t do much with green studs.
Agree. I don't like the flick-fire function either, but it's better than stud shooters. They're less easily activated on accident and don't get lost as easily. When I play, not that I do it often anymore, but even when I was a child, if I'm firing a missile, I want to have the missile in my hand so I can guide its path and savor every second of its slow-motion flight, then control its impact. Swooshability doesn't only apply to ships. I remember some Hoth battle set from probably 15-20 years ago where you could press somewhere and send a minifigure flying as if being blown away by an explosion, and I wondered if anyone would actually find that fun compared to just picking up the minifigure and acting out his being-blown-away manually, even wondered if the adults designing it had forgotten how to play. Even back then, I remember picking up on -- and being bothered by -- a move towards automatisation.
Jango's Slave I had missiles sitting on studs so that you would take them off manually and "swoosh" with them. That was great. Now it's all stud shooters everywhere.
So what does Marrok look like underneath the helmet?
It's just a plain black face
I struggle to love sets that are meant to be much bigger and hold much more people but don't. Biggest offender recently was the imperial shuttle, whole point of the shuttle is to hold dozens of people, yet this one crammed in 3, just barely. Same but less of an issue here because this ship really should fit more minifigs. Still like it, just can't love it.
3 is the bare minimum for a super down scaled sized but only 1 that’s just straight up a star fighter.
Yay more daily uploads thank you 🎉. Although I was expecting him to make a comparison of this set I wasn’t expecting it to be so soon thank you Ryan. 👍
when are you making more hoth moc videos
It dead😢
(Nah idk)
Atleast you could find the flick firer after shooting it
i'd love to see a MOC instructions where the end result has best of both worlds(in that case ships).
bro i was gonna take a break from buying legos but as soon as i saw this i was like i gotta have this
Thanks for sharing another QR code 😊
I'd like to see an ultimate collectors edition of Ashoka 's T-6.
Dat spinning Anakin reference. :D :D
Old one hands down. Hate size difference. Like older minis too.
The size is so fractionally smaller I don’t really see a problem with the new set. For $80 I think it’s a good set and while I would like to be able to put 2 mini figs in the cockpit, aesthetically the new one looks much more like the live action model while the older ones larger cockpit seems a bit out of proportion. I’m excited to get this set and so far I’m all in on the Ahsoka Lego sets
Great comparison vid, nice to see!
Great video, def gonna grab this set. Out of curiousity why does everyone on the lego subreddit hate this guy? He seems like a nice dude that has some valid criticism on different sets he reviews. Why is it so bad to nitpick sets when lego is charging an extraordinary amount of money for it when its essentially just a bunch of plastic.
I've had the 2011 set when I was still a kid and thought it was the coolest shit ever, it's a bit nostalgic to see it again though it definitely aged lmao. I like the new one, I agree with you about the cockpit, at the very least it would have been nice to fit both Sabine and Ahsoka inside, otherwise it feels more like a glorified star fighter than a shuttle. But appart from that, it looks awesome and the minifigures look insane.
I honestly might end up modifying the new Shuttle because I personally just cannot stand the look of the new downsized cockpit. I think it’s the cockpit piece they used that just looks choppy/janky. The cockpit on the 2011 T6 is just built way smoother and rounded than the new one that looks more awkward and square with weird ledges.
I just really wish that the designers played with the new ones cockpit more. The rest of the 2023 shuttle does look to be an improvement over the 2011 version especially when it comes to the middle fuselage construction.
Hell yeah i was waiting for comparisons of this upcoming wave
Well I need to find all the pieces to my OG T-6 set. Younger me thought it would be great to destroy it.
Can’t for someone to create instructions Tom make a bigger cockpit for the new T6
How is the set with fewer pieces is both bigger and has more room in the cockpit?
Bro I also did not think lego would re visit this ship but hey here we are
May I assume the 2 2x3 inverted Slopes in the centerpart of the rotatable wings are placed the wrong way round?
My Lego collection is exclusively SW:The Clone Wars, so I'll stick with my 2011 T6 Shuttle, but I *really* want that Huyang minifig. 😩
I like that the 2023 one is only about 1 stud smaller in each direction.
44 wide VS 38 wide, so that's a width of 3 on each side.
Maybe start using weight as a measure as well as piece count, 1$ per Gramme. I am noticing a bit of shrinkflation with lego regarding weight even though they are using just as many or more pieces...just using lots of 1x1 tiles that cost less than a penny basically conning you.
saving money by not printing the box art on the instructions is such a cheap move
I would have much preferred a larger set with a decent interior (at least two minifigs in the cockpit and some space in the back if possible). It's a nice set but it's basically a fighter with no real "shuttle" element to it. That said I appreciate it might be an awkward shape to do that with.
Great review. Can’t wait to get this one. Thanks 😊
Sweet video!🔥
Great video and comparison 😊
Agreed 🍻 smaller pieces to inflate the numbers is sad butt, a reality now
I know republic gunships go online for 180 so why don’t you do a review on one I know hello there Rex has one maybe you could get his
“The stud shooter…bañg” - Ryan 2023
when i get mine im gonna try to mirror the top
If the new one was based on clone wars, what figures do you think it’d have?
If the new one had the same size cockpit, And color scheme i would say that it was definitely an upgrade, but seems more like a fighter to me
2 solid sets
I watch MandR set reviews to justify my pre-orders that I made rashly 😅 glad this one'll be good!
plz do a ghost comparison
2011 one ride or die cause I had it as a kid
Another note, the old one is more accurate as the cockpit is not meant to be sticking out
People keep saying that the new T-6 is massively downscaled next to the old one, but just looking at the top-down comparison, they really aren't that different in size. The new one is only a tiny bit smaller than the old one in its overall size. The only thing that's really truly smaller than the old one is the cockpit, but granted, the old cockpit was oversized on the old model compared to the proportions of the actual ship.
Might have to open my 1st T-6 shuttle from but i will be getting the new set as I love the figs. Is the new cockpit print meant to be white but looks grey due to a poor print? Herer in New Zealand we paid $130 for the 1st set and $140 for the new 2nd set.
Dang didn’t realize just how small the new one is until I see it next to the old one
I wanna know the actual dimension. The OVERALL size actually looks the same, just looks like the made the cockpit smaller.
Take a shot every time Ryan says COCKPIT 😂
Would’ve been nice if Lego made a shorter blade piece for Ashoka’s second lightsaber.
Are you able to edit the set so that you could slot the old cockpit into it?
Are CAC visor and other attachments compatable with offial lego helmets, legit question
I just like the white and red together, such a good look on anything. The gray just looks bad to me even if it's more intricate detail wise
Ask Mandr: Do you think it’s possible that we get a Radiant VII next year because of the anniversary + the red colour sceme that we currently have. And we have seen the same thing with the coruscant gunship!
If the T-6 shuttle of 23 would worth it more for that price of $80 bugs it would have those play figures of the escape pod upgraded better, should have been more big the ship and last the details of both sides of the ship could look way more creative color design, yes yes yes yes yes!!! The T-6 2023 blows our 🤯!
I really miss a flight mode display option. Like on the box art, T-6 looks much more interesting in this position, and waste less space on shelf. Excactly the same case with the B-Wing model.
The UCS B-wing does have a stand for flight mode display. And the T-6 can be displayed in a non-horisontal wing position as if in flight, although it needs its landing gear out for balancing. But of course vertical position is difficult to achieve... The T-19, however, truly can only be displayed in landing position. :/
The design of the booklets has changed to save on ink. Personally I think that is fine.
Hi
I'm terrible at designing myself, but I wonder how good of one could be made out of two new sets?