Whoa! You really got me to take a look at my setup. I’m an 11.5 boot (currently on Salomon Dialogue), so I bought a W board thinking I needed it. When I looked at the angles that my heel and toe would need in order to drag me down, I know that there’s no way I’m catching a boot edge at my skill level. I could probably ride a regular width board. That opens up a lot of possibilities for me since I’m also slim and tall in body size! Thank you for taking the time to send this message!
I have 10.5 men’s boot and a 25.6 cm wide board. I centered my bindings, and I’m at a +15, -3. I have overhang but not a ton. I’m going to the mountain tomorrow and I will see if it is too much. You gave me some good confidence though thank you for this vid!
You just helped me solve the issue of why I had 2 inches of toe and heel drag….because the style boot I was using is an older design which is significantly larger. Turned out all I needed was a new pair of boots
I ride 27.5 waist board with 9.5 boots. 27.5 seems to be the sweetspot for me and a lot of people carving with that boot size. I use that setup in all conditions and the edge to edge speed isn't an issue. I first took that route because of carving. You are right most people don't need that wide of a board. It all came with a lot of trial and error to find the right setup.
I bought a normal width board, Capita DOA 154, with 12 size boots. I will let you know how it went in a few days lol. Update: I managed to downsize my boot to 10.5 (US). I had 3cm heels hangout, and 1 or 2 cm toes hangout. Had no trouble going down red slopes and breaking hard. I don't do extreme carvings.
@@kwaliex There is a snowboard boot that is Larger. My problem was the width, not the lenght. But still, 2cm hangout is not a problem if you don't do extrem carvings.
I have an 11.5 boot but I've been eyeing the CAPiTA Aeronaut 159 that has a 256 waist width. Would be the narrowest board I've ever ridden... Still not pulling the trigger yet but you definitely made me feel more confident that its not too small!
@@josesbox9555 It's a pretty rad board for sure but it's not super aggressive like the BSOD. I'd say you "can" ride the hell out of it, but its not so aggressive that you "have" to. If that makes any sense 🤷♂
Great vid! Glad you covered preference as well. I'm an example of the smaller boot (8.5), wider board rider (157W). I know I would be even more nimble on a slimmer board, but you get used to the extra effort riding a wide board and I don't even notice it after a bit of riding. It was definitely difficult to turn the first day on the 157W Deep Thinker.
I have the free thinker (and size 12 boot) and love the board but got to the point that I was dragging my toes deep carving on groomers and went wild and ordered a donek with a 30cm waist and it was certainly interesting first few turns, probably similar experience to your 8.5s on a commercial "wide"
I loved my k2 fat bob but the edge kept ripping out. I had to return a few of them. That was the answer to heel and toe drag. My first actual snowboard boot was the airwalk boot. The didn't offer the same support as the boots nowadays.
love preferring the heelside! highbacks forward a bit to engage them. wonderful info, size 13+ should go wide. I see those ride bindings! Can't wait to try out my a-9's. I have the opposite problem with small feet. Using medium bindings with size 7.5 boot required me to strap in too tight. These small a-9's feel and look amazing. They sit the boot high with lots of padding but it's also stiff! Best of both worlds?
I wear an 11.5 K2 2023 boot, have a bryan iguchi arbor 159 board, large Now bindings. Haven't had many issues, very occasionally i can catch a toe traversing in deep powder. Dont think I will ever get a wide board, love the nimble feeling of a regular snowboard
I’m 6’ 180lb size 10 boot, just bought an all mountain lobster deck 158w (26.6 width) that’s shaped like a directional twin and slightly on the stiffer side of medium. My thoughts were with 3bt, added width and stiffness I could take a true twin board and make it perform a little better in powder/freeride especially if I adjust my binding positions, but still be an all mountain and park board. Also in the end it’s only 1.2cm wider than my other all mountain deck. I was wondering if I was on to something with the thought process or have I just wasted my time and money haha
Just like Matt said in the video, it can be all personal preference. The extra width is going to still make the board slower edge to edge for your size 10 boots. In all honesty I would have suggested a standard width board with a little more length.
I feel I one that this video doesn't fully apply to. But as a size 12 rider who started in the early 90's I figured I should reply. I moved to a more serious set up around 2000. Its was a 164 wide board from ride. It could rip a carve great but wasn't overly fun in tighter stuff. 2005 I moved to a regular board and it was fine at a160 length. I am 6ft 180lbs. Much more fun to be on. I Had no issues on steeps carving over and dragging my hand. I've done the board tilt thing and also determined that it would be a nasty carve to lean that far. I've always wondered just how steep it would need to be for that to be an issue, pretty damn steep that most inbound terrain just doesnt have I assume. But still to this day when I look at boards wide stuff is still recommend or the volume shifted stuff. I don't know... that said the waist width is something that always bothered me. I don't care what the waist width is, at least for sizing. Would rather know the width at the binding mounts as boards have different side cuts. I think some provide this but rarely. Thanks for confirming what I found out for myself over the years.
Awesome to see Matt again, and these new informative videos are INCREDIBLE! I just wonder if he moved down to Florida though? Flat and warm all year isn’t the best combination for stellar powder days…
Haha, thanks for the love! I did not move to Florida I’m actually up in Northern Michigan now. Definitely going to have more “on snow” time and be able to test more gear!!
Was usually givena wide rental. This vudeo dispelled a lot of doubt i had on a good starter board i found on a killer sale. Thought my boots were too wide based on what a lot of other videos recommended but im feeling a bit more certain im within a good range on each edge
I’m bout 6ft 150lbs size 11-11.5 shoe and I ride a 157W. I would consider myself an advanced/expert snowboarder. When I was beginner/intermediate I was on a standard 156 twin. The extra length and width definitely helped me as my skill level grew but would not recommend for beginners.
I ride a 156 burton custom (25.6cm weist) with a boot us12 and never had an issue with drag. A lot of people tell me I need a W, I'm not a pro but I also do park sometimes and still no problem. I also use DC boots, very light and small boot, so maybe that helps.
I have a size 12 boot and 2.2 CM toe and heel overhang on my medium wide 262mm arbor element. Do you think this is too much where I'll boot out? There's so much conflicting information out there on snowboarding forum and other websites and videos. Some say you won't boot overhang another say that the boot should come right to the edge of the board.
Hello ! Im close to buy a Jones Mountain Twin 156W or 157 but i can't decide. A very experienced (ex pro 2000ish) neighbor told me to get the 156W but all the shops seem to tell me to go 157 instead as it would be a mistake going wide. Im 177cm 80kg boot size 27 MP (Nitro anthem). My feet size 268mm but my boot overall is near 300mm, measuring outside. It is equivalent to US9 at nitro but ive tried Salomon boots and im equivalent to a US10 there to be more comfy. I would have it mounted with Union Force bindings, or STR. The board waist width doesnt seem to have a huge difference from regular to wide (1cm ish) but given i keep my boards 10 years i really want to be sure lmao. Im more of a slope- all mountain guy, i have some experience (been riding for 15 years but im something like average imo. All slopes, bit of powder, small rotations like 360 on bumps). For now i ride a Apo Line 157 and i have 2cm hang from the board each front and back, and some shops (waxing) told me it was a bit much. Thank you very much and sorry for the inconvenience !
Like Matt said and demonstrated in the videoin the video, it's all personal preference but there is no need for a wide board unless your foot is over a size 12. As long as your boots are centered on the board you will be more than fine, especially with a size 9-10US. Also if you are having trouble figuring out your boots size, check out this video that shows you how to know if you have the correct fit no matter what sizing guide you are following -> th-cam.com/video/bnN6ENRyoBc/w-d-xo.html In addition, here is a video about adjusting your bindings to boots which includes centering your foot -> th-cam.com/video/5pcGsPgqWYY/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps, enjoy the ride
I love my 161w libtech but its run down lol. size 13 boots stepons. 8 years riding. travel for it. cut thru the slopes often. I also do double blacks ( Snowbird), Mammoth is home mountain looking at the STUMP APE 161, its essentially wider than my favorite. but was looking at skunk ape 170UW
Thanks for this. I am riding 162 (not wide) Libtech TRS C2, i bought this when I am novice, didn't now much about overhang and booting out. Now I can carve a little bit but I have overhang with my 10.5 boots. Never booted out but I have at least 3-3,5cm overhang. I'm still a little worried, I don't know what should I do when I improve my carving more. Feel a little confused right now.
Just like Matt said in the video, having your toes/heels hanging off is not a bad thing it’s just super important that your foot is centered. With a 10.5 you will have PLENTY of clearance and unless you are laying out super hard carves there’s nothing to worry about. Enjoy the ride!
this was the video I was looking for! I'm 175-180lbs, 5'10" and I was freaking out thinking I needed a wide board as I wear a 9.5 ride deadbolt zonaland I see the overhang of the boots on the board as I ride 15/0 regular stance. A lot of articles/people are recommending wide boards for stability, etc and toe/heel drag, but looking at those angles most people will never hit those carves, which is why the video was so helpful - i probably won't, maybe in a few more seasons, if ever... So I'll end up sticking with the 159cm Ride Mountain Pig (252ww) instead of the 160w (261ww), and I also considered the 162cm at 257ww. Would you agree with my sizing or do you think differently? I haven't used the board yet so still able to return the 159cm, if needed..
That is true, wider boards do give you a little more float in deep snow too but not enough to sacrifice your daily riding for most of your average riders.👍
Awesome video! It definitely helped me be a bit more comfortable in my choice for my first board. I am curious what you think of my decision: I am 6ft but pretty light at 135 lbs. I wear a size 11 boot. I was going back and forth on whether or not to get a wide. I ended up settling on a normal 156. I was worried at first that it is too narrow but after seeing the demonstrations in this video I now realize I would need to do a very steep carve to drag my toes.
When you get into deep powder the snow is light an fluffy and you are not digging in with your edges like you do on harder packed snow. The softer the snow is the less you are actually carving hard and as you carve your board is sliding away from the carve more making a wider cut in the snow where there is slightly more room for your boot. And if you get into some of those slushy conditions where there is some harder snow underneath 9 times out of 10 its deep enough to hit you boot wether its hanging off the board or not. Hopefully that makes sense, I might have to make a follow up video actually 🤔
I took a deal on EVO for a 160W Jones Hovercraft 5 ft 10 and 180 pounds. I bought 10 Burton step-on boots and medium step-on bindings. This won't allow me to carve quick, but should it benefit me in powder and freeride? It is directional, so I will likely have it set to 15/0. What are your thoughts? There is an 8 mm (.31 in) difference, which doesn't seem like much in waist width.
Your setup with the 160W Jones Hovercraft should work well for powder and freeriding. The Hovercraft's directional shape and floaty design excel in deep snow, making it a great choice for those conditions. While the 8 mm difference in waist width might not seem significant, it can help provide a bit more stability, especially with wider feet in Step-On boots. The 15/0 stance should offer a good balance for both powder performance and maneuverability. Overall, it sounds like a solid choice for your riding style!
Depends on the board but like Matt said in the video, whatever 163 you are looking at will probably already have a waist width that is plenty wide for your 12’s so check that out because in general a board in the mid 160’s is going to fit your height/weight much better.
I have size 11.5 boot with an 158 board (yes typo 2016-17)and my toe side hangs over like 5cm and heel side 2-3ish cm. Do you think this will work out or should i look at a wider board?
Hi bro! Could you give me ur opinion please? Iam an intermediate rider. 1.83cm tall, 93kg weight and boots walth burton step on size 11.5 with genesis step on bindings size L. Iam a noobie in carving. Burton web recommends me a W board. Would you too?
@@nanocalderon1997 haha, saw your DM on instagram before your comment here. If you are checking out boards in your size range (162-164) most are going to have wider waist widths already. You really just need to take into account everything that is said in the video (actual waist, skill level, conditions, specific board, etc) to see if you would benefit or not from a wide board.
I am built like a tree trunk at 6'2" 215-225 lbs, but have a size 10 foot. I have actually considered a wide due to my size and not my foot size. I would really love to demo a normal and wide board back to back to see if I can tell much of a difference.
Yeah, you definitely don't need a wider board. You are a pretty average weight for your height so really any standard width board that fits you will be good. You can also offest that a bit just by checking out medium/stiff to stiff boards. 👍
@@PeterGlennSports Yeah, I have been riding for 28 years now and have never ridden a wide. I guess I would just like to feel the difference. I ride a Capita BSOD, so a fairly still board. I was looking into the Salomon Huck Knife Pro and seems like I exceed the recommended weight limit for the 159, but not the 159 wide which I thought was kind of odd.
@@nicklarson801 Yeah, thats the hard part about wide boards, with the little extra width "technically" it will hold a little more weight but then the board is slower edge to edge and harder to push the edge in without a bigger foot. If you are looking at more all mountain/park style boards like the Huck Knife pro I'd look at the Never Summer Proto Ultra 160. Twin Tip, park shape but with more all mountain style guts and slightly stiffer than most boards with a similar riding style-> www.peterglenn.com/product/never-summer-proto-ultra-snowboard-mens-1
Need your opinion on the new capita Megadeath. Smallest size is 156cm, worried about the with being too wide for me. I’m 5’4, weigh 150lbs with gear, wears size 8 boots. Planning to use it as my all mountain freeride board. For comparison My current daily quiver is a custom 150cm and my freeride powder board is a 147 Libtech orca. I’m a intermediate aggressive rider but I think the 156 will be too wide especially in between trees, carving. Thanks!
It definitely might feel a little sluggish but one thing that is good to note. If you can handle the aggressiveness of the Mega Death then you will be able to handle the extra width. If you are not sure, you might be better off on something like a 152 HTH for an all mtn/freeride style board. Hometown Hero: www.peterglenn.com/product/burton-family-tree-hometown-hero-snowboard-mens-1
Great video Dude. Incredibly helpful. I was having a nervous breakdown when i put my large est Malavitas on a burton antler 157.5 length and i noticed the toe hang. Coincidentally my antler board is 251 waist width and I have size 12 boots so this video, visual aid and your explanations were very helpful. I was concerned I needed to pull my bindings more toward the heel side edge to prevent toe overhang or get a different board. In your visual aid the bindings look completely centered on that board. Should i have the est binding in the red reference line?
It’s all about the boots, just make sure that your toes and heel are hanging off the same amount. Check out this video about adjusting your bindings to boots 👍 th-cam.com/video/5pcGsPgqWYY/w-d-xo.html
I basically started riding on a 165w twin camber for the total 8 days i have ridden snowboard and was ripping black diamonds the last 4 days. I'm so excited to see what switching to a narrower and slightly shorter board does for my riding and hope that how hard i had to work to carve the previous board lets me absolutely rip this season!
I went from a 164W Burton Custom X to a 160 K2 Alchemist. My new 10.5 Burton Ion boots have a super small template. I use posi on the front foot and slightly posit on the rear as I love jamming those side hits. What a great sport!
I really like the new YES Jackpot 2025 snowboard. I am looking for a new park board that is slightly more aggressive and can handle stomping medium/large jumps (30-50 ft). I was bummed to realize they don't carry this board in a "wide" version, and I've only ever purchased wide boards. I wear size 11.5 salomon launch BOA SJ park boots, and I've generally ridden boards with a waist width of 25.8cm and up. The YES jackpot 158cm board has a waist width of 25.6cm. Would you recommend buying this board for the aggressive park riding and maybe a little all mountain riding I will be doing, or would you suggest I size up and go with a wider board? For additional context I am 6'0 and 180lbs.
The 2 millimeter difference in waist width isn't going to be much smaller then the waist width of the other boards you are currently riding. it is going to be a great board for your riding style you can definitely get away with it if you are riding a 15, -15 stance. Going up in size wouldn't hurt either like finding a Libtech board with their wides they go up to 26.8 in waist width which would still be killer for in and out of the park going through the trees and doing some bigger cornice drops.
Hello! Thank you for the video! I’m 6’3, 165lb, 10us, and could use some more input. I’m currently deciding between a Bataleon 161w (26.9) or 164w (27.2) and Burton 165 (27.0). I think I understand I don’t need a wide board though I was given a Burton 165w when renting and I had a ton of fun on it. Thoughts? Thank you in advance.
hmm just got a new set up, new boots, board and so now iam a bit scared it wont fit cause i dont wanted the wideboard cause of mobility xD i got 3,5 cm overhang at Backfoot, front +12 and back -12 degree got a 155 board mid is 251mm. Got an 11 Boot from Vans. But seems possible :D
Just make sure your foot is centered up on the board from toe to heel 👍 How To Properly Fit Your Snowboard Bindings To Your Boots th-cam.com/video/5pcGsPgqWYY/w-d-xo.html
Hi Peter, thank a lot for your video. I would need your approval, I have 11 boot and I would need to buy a burtom custom 162 with 256 waist... I got from your video that I should be quite right, even for carving. Thanks
Need HELP to chose snowboard for snow boots size 14 Im 6.1, 164lb, Snowboard boots size 14 (K2 Maysis) and Union Force XL - bindings (I like to ride +15-12 angles) ..going to ride on north east(Upstate NY). Skill: 3rd year (intermediate) Im not sure which of these to choose? Lib Tech Skunk Ape C2X Snowboard 2025 161W(Waist width: 268) 165W(Waist width: 268) 163UW(Waist width: 280) I bought 161W(Lib Tech Skunk Ape C2X Snowboard 2025 I can still return and reorder), will it work for me? or I should get 165W or 163UW? Thanks
So I went to a local snowboard shop near me and I ended up getting the Bataleon Goliath in a size 158W. I’m 5’9 and weigh 210 and I wear a size 9.5 boots and they recommended the 158W which I had difficulty riding. I used my buddies 157 Bataleon Evil Twin board and barely fell and was having an easier time controlling the board. Is the 158W board way too big of a board for me? I want to contact the shop and see if I can exchange the board for one my size but i don’t know if they’ll accept that return/exchange since I used the board. Thank you for your time!
Got a New APO (Apocalypse?) board that has a crazy reference stance, think it's a French company. It was a 2014 Monster ridden by Sage K. in the 2014 Olympics got gold. Know anything about these boards??? as not a lot on the internet about this company. Thanks!
Im an intermediate progressing pretty quick and looking into buying my first board and I was thinking the rome warden. Im 6’4 175 and an 11.5 boot size, would you say a 157W would be a good choice for me?
Warden is a pretty cool board but like Matt said in the video you don’t necessarily NEED a wide board. Also for your height I’d go with something a bit longer. Check out this video about board sizing for a great visual explanation-> How To Choose The Right Size Snowboard th-cam.com/video/imGSIiw-vQA/w-d-xo.html
I remember back when people wore Sorel's and the airwalks were popular. I had some morrow's where your toes would get so damn cold and the front would dig into your shins and cut your skin but that was such a great era. I will never forget demoing a Jamie Lynn lib tech back in 95 and what a great day that was.
@@PeterGlennSports That's awesome. That sounds like something I would have done. I have a lot of nostalgic 90's skate and snowboard memories with the old school boards and gear. I really cherish those days. I had a 5150 snowboard with PBS bindings for my first board then after that got a Ingemar Backman Atlantis. After that I think was Jamie Lynn Lib Techs for a long time with some old Burtons in between. So many great memories back when snowboarding wasn't so popular. My first video was TB3 and then the Mack Dawg melt down project. They had such a huge impact on my childhood. I really miss the old etnies skate shoes from the early to mid 90's.
nice details! I actually have the opposite problem: 5'8 heigh, 140lbs, but US mens 7.5 boots (25.5cm mondo feet). I'm currently using womens boards, 152cm with 24.2cm wide. What do you think? what would be the max width I could ride without too many problems?
Hi glen , how important is to follow the kg recommendation from the manufacturer. I have an 160cm snowboard that can handle up to 78kg. When I was 100 kg I was falling a lot and I couldn't stop
Those can be good numbers to look at but not something to dwell on. As you have experienced just like Matt said in the video, heavier riders need either bigger or stiffer boards under their feet.
Nice video , I was looking last season for a all mountain board to help me to improve my freestyle but not quit riding the whole mountain , the guy form the store recommended me the yes standard which is really nice board and I loved it But is super wide and he said bro you need a wide board because you are 11 size but I miss to ride normal width board full classic camber So after to watch this video I’m gonna look for some classic camber board not wide Still love wide board even more when you have some powder You cant just have one board if you are very into snowboard right haha Thanks for the video
The 253 mm width you're considering is right at the upper end of the typical range for a wide board, but it should still work great, especially if you want more stability and avoid any edge catches.
So, I'm 6' and 165lbs size 11 boot. Looking for another board to complement my 155 name dropper. That board is a lot of fun, but as I've gotten older I really want more of an all mountain hard charger, something that's going to carve like a knife, but still hit side hits and good sized jumps. The name dropper gets a little squirrely at high speed through the chatter and it becomes a lot of work to get that thing to carve hard at speed (especially heel side). Was looking at the burton custom camber and was wondering what size you'd recommend? Was thinking either 158 or 158W, wide only because it feels like my heels can dig into the snow sometimes on really hard heel edge carves on the name dropper (maybe just the nature of that board being rocker and softer?) My stance is centered on that board, heel/toe overhang, but maybe I don't need a wide board? Let me know what you think. Thanks!
Yeah definitely no need for the wide with a size 11. I would bump up to the 162 though. You are on the lighter side for your height but you still have a higher center of gravity and more leverage over the board. Plus if you are keeping the Name Dropper for park/chill riding the 158 is too close in size. You’ll want a little more stability for high speed riding and carving. Check out this video about sizing for a great visual explanation especially about being lighter for your height -> How To Choose The Right Size Snowboard th-cam.com/video/imGSIiw-vQA/w-d-xo.html
With boot 10.5 as first board got 154w second more intermediate board bought 157w(I got heavier) I’ve been riding 157w and it felt sluggish, then my girlfriend bought her first board which was 152 248 wrist width so we changed on the hill to try out and I was perfectly able to carve blues and reds. Then I tried several normal width boards and they were much better for me, I’ve been riding wide bcs thought that it’s from 10+
Awesome vid! Wondering what size board I should go with for Ride Algorythm Snowboard 2024. 6’0 180lb. Size 11 boot. 154 or 157? I was thinking 155W but after this vid def not i just want a playful feel thanks!
Binding footbeds matter. Those footbeds are thick. gnu bindings are very thin for instance and will have your boots dragging before those bindings with thicker beds would. Good to keep in mind.
Hi there. Love the content. I’m 6’2” 200 lbs with size 13 boots. Intermediate riding +15/-15 angles. What’s the minimum width size you think I could get away with?
I would just stick with any of the “wide” specific models when you are looking at boards or like Matt said in the video boards with waist widths in that are upper 25 getting into 26
Nothing yet, the winged highbacks are basically to give you a little extra something to lean on. Whether its for more leverage on presses when riding boxes and rails or for a little extra lateral stability on landings.
riding boot 11 on 254 mm waist, i feel toe drag rarly only when a fresh snow covering with ice crust. but you really should have boot with small foot print
You know it! And even on those days when your board sinks in to that soft snow your toes are going to hit even if they weren't hanging off the board. Thanks for the watch and comment, keep ripping!
I would recommend going with the M/L binding size. Many brands do have some overlap in the sizing, but typically, a 10.5 boot falls closer to the middle of the M/L range
im in the uk i think a us 12 is a uk size 10 im looking for my first board through decathlon they recommend a wide for a uk 9.5 (eu44) upwards im a 9.5/10 im 6ft weight shifts between 75-85kg i just got a snb 100: 160 midwide not allot of places that you can walk into for advice here in the uk hopefully i got the right setup
The midwide width should give you enough room for your boot size to prevent toe and heel drag, but it’s always good to check the board's actual width to ensure it matches your boots.
No specific cm width. Just keep in mind when you are shopping for a board, in your correct size that you don't need to get a "wide" (if the board comes in a specific wide version)
I’m an intermediate snowboarder who is 6’1, 180 lbs, and wears size 11.5 boots with large Ride Capo bindings. I’m considering purchasing the Ride Shadowban (a do it all set back quiver killer with mostly rocker), but are torn between the 157 which has a waist width of 254mm, and the 160W which has a waist width of 260mm and is perfect for my weight according to rides sizing chart. Which out of the two would you recommend for my specs? If I got the 160W would it add that much of a difference that I would have a hard time turning, especially in trees?
@@theneighbor4209 not at all, we’re talking centimeters here so even from a 157 to 161 we’re only talking 4cm. The biggest thing you’ll notice is more spring, edge hold, and most importantly stability. Check out the “sizing” video, especially around the 4:30 mark for a great visual explanation-> th-cam.com/video/imGSIiw-vQA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=g0wLSPGFwRWvVy2J
How about bindings overhanging? I bought the rome artifact pro 153 with 25.4 waist width. I would like to use the union strata bindings size L and they overhang a lil bit on toe and heel side. I would use vans aura pro size 11,5. Is this a match?
Put your bindings and boots on the board and tilt it to one side until the boots touch the table. Do you think you are going to get that low in your carves? if not then the board is wide enough for you.
@@PeterGlennSportsI did this like in the video. But i also did this on a surface with an angle and the difference is smaller. I’m just worried for when i would put on full break on steeper slopes. It can be dangerous if you want to break on a steeper slope and u lose grip because of heeldrag? I have 2.5 cm heel overhang.
Love your channel, subbed! I have a question, maybe you can help with. I recently bought the Bataleon Goliath 159, I wear boot size EU 43 (= US 10), I didn't make a mistake by not buying a wide board right?
Hi, what about carving in softer snow? When you cut in about 4-5 cm everything looks different. Riding 10.5 Nitros on less than 256 with an angle of 15 ist not working beeing a strong Carver.
In powder you can definitely benefit from a wider board. A board turns different in deep snow, its much easier. Kind of think about how surfboard or wakeboard turns in water.
Dude this video helped so much, I was really wanting the aeronaut at first in the 159 or 61 with a size 12, don’t see myself carving that low ever no matter how good I am, don’t really want to either lol thoughts?
The Aeronaut is definitely a dope board and you'll be fine with a 12. The 161 even has as a 25.9 waist which is the width of some "wide" boards on the market.
Hi there! Looking at a Gnu Forest Bailey 4x4 and can't decide on the 157 or 160. Their respective widths are 25.5 & 25.7, and flex of 6 & 7 (10=stiff). I'm 6'0", 175lbs and size 11 shoe. I like to butter and press, trying to get something that's a little more all-mountain than my 156w skate banana. Should I opt for the 160 even though it's stiffer than the 157? I assume my shoe size and the slight mm waist difference won't matter much in the end. Any input is appreciated!
Just got the vans infuse size 10. Their footprint is actually almost identical to my previous thirtytwo TM2 in size 11 (I sized them wrong, Oops). Should I go for the Jones mountain twin in 160 (25.7cm waist width) or 162W (26.3cm waist width)? Thanks!
Man, great video but now I’m second guessing my recent purchase of the Mega Death. I bought a 161W based on the weight recommendation and the customer service rep primarily. I’m 5’11”, 205lbs, 11.5 size boot. The range for that board is up to 210 with everything else up to 200. You think it’s worth trying to exchange? I don’t want to sacrifice much pop, but maneuverability is probably more important. I appreciate your thoughts!
Up to you, I personally am 5'11" 200lbs with a size 11 boot and rode the 159 with zero issues. Also like Matt said in the video. Depending on your exact skill level and how hard you are actually carving you might not need the wide.
Hi, I'm 205lbs size 12.5 shoes, I rented a board last season that was 160 which was fine, but I'm looking to purchase 158 or 159. Do you think that's too small? Or I should stick to 160(like the one I rented)? I'm looking for something easier to turn so I can carve and go edge to edge easier.
@@ADeleven Honestly at 6' 205 you might want to stick with boards in the low 160-164 range unless you are planning on getting a board for only riding park. Check out this video about sizing for a great explanation about proper sizing -> th-cam.com/video/imGSIiw-vQA/w-d-xo.html
It's up to personal preference for sure. If you're gonna be doing heavy carving the wide is typically a smarter option but you can get away with a regular board as long as there's not too much overhang.
Im a 295 lb, 5' 11", size 12 Burton boot, beginner. I have the 161w Skink ape from a couple years back. Does this make sense for me? I did a couple of days at keystone last year on it and it seemed fine, but maybe there are better options?
You should be fine on that board. Ideally you'd want something a little closer to the mid 160's would give you more stability and edge hold. Especially as you start riding at faster speeds. Another grerat option is volume shift boards, where you can have a board that is a little closer to your height requirements but feel like bigger boards under your feet. Check out this video about those -> th-cam.com/video/4uehOtKStNg/w-d-xo.html
If you are an advaced rider with boot size 10 or more, go for a wide board. You will definitly start to try carving an then it will be the end with a normal board. Always this "edge to edge" 🙈. For an advanced rider this is not an argument. The board, you mounted for size 12 boot, is awfull. You will boot out all the time. I have boot size 290mm and I ride a burton custom 169W. If it comes to soft snow, I see two Lines in the snow. One from the edge, one from the boot. My recommendation for advanced riders: do not by a board with more than 5 mm boot overhang.
Whoa! You really got me to take a look at my setup. I’m an 11.5 boot (currently on Salomon Dialogue), so I bought a W board thinking I needed it. When I looked at the angles that my heel and toe would need in order to drag me down, I know that there’s no way I’m catching a boot edge at my skill level. I could probably ride a regular width board. That opens up a lot of possibilities for me since I’m also slim and tall in body size! Thank you for taking the time to send this message!
No worries, glad it helped.
glad you found home at peter glenn!
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Thanks for sharing the video! It was really helpful for me. I wish you all the best!
No worries, glad it helped
Your videos are incredibly informative and helpful. We all really appreciate it!!!
🙏 much appreciated!
Super glad you considered sinking in snow and slope angle, because that's always been something I think about
Glad it was helpful!
I'm 6'8", 225 and a size 13 boot. I knew from the get-go that I was a W board guy lol
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I’m 6’4 215 I hate it lol
You need 2 snowboards
I have 10.5 men’s boot and a 25.6 cm wide board. I centered my bindings, and I’m at a +15, -3. I have overhang but not a ton. I’m going to the mountain tomorrow and I will see if it is too much. You gave me some good confidence though thank you for this vid!
No worries, enjoy the ride
Hey man what did you find? I'm 10.5 and trying to decide if 25.4cm will be enough or if I'll need to go with a wide 26.2
@@moobox just like Matt said in the video no need for a wide unless you are size 12+
You just helped me solve the issue of why I had 2 inches of toe and heel drag….because the style boot I was using is an older design which is significantly larger. Turned out all I needed was a new pair of boots
Awesome! Glad it helped and enjoy the ride!
what specific boot did you get?
I ride 27.5 waist board with 9.5 boots. 27.5 seems to be the sweetspot for me and a lot of people carving with that boot size. I use that setup in all conditions and the edge to edge speed isn't an issue. I first took that route because of carving. You are right most people don't need that wide of a board. It all came with a lot of trial and error to find the right setup.
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Thanks Matt... Glad to see you're still able to do your thing with Peter Glenn.
Much appreciated, definitely stoked!
I bought a normal width board, Capita DOA 154, with 12 size boots. I will let you know how it went in a few days lol. Update: I managed to downsize my boot to 10.5 (US). I had 3cm heels hangout, and 1 or 2 cm toes hangout. Had no trouble going down red slopes and breaking hard. I don't do extreme carvings.
Rip it!
what specific boot did you get?
@@kwaliex There is a snowboard boot that is Larger. My problem was the width, not the lenght. But still, 2cm hangout is not a problem if you don't do extrem carvings.
I have an 11.5 boot but I've been eyeing the CAPiTA Aeronaut 159 that has a 256 waist width. Would be the narrowest board I've ever ridden... Still not pulling the trigger yet but you definitely made me feel more confident that its not too small!
I rode that board with a size 11 boot and zero issues. Definitely one of my favorite board for 23/24. Enjoy the ride!
@@PeterGlennSportsI wear a 13 and I’m looking at the same board. I’m about 6’ even. I’ve heard you really have to ride the hell out of that thing.
@@josesbox9555 It's a pretty rad board for sure but it's not super aggressive like the BSOD. I'd say you "can" ride the hell out of it, but its not so aggressive that you "have" to. If that makes any sense 🤷♂
@@PeterGlennSports Makes total sense. 👍
Great vid! Glad you covered preference as well. I'm an example of the smaller boot (8.5), wider board rider (157W). I know I would be even more nimble on a slimmer board, but you get used to the extra effort riding a wide board and I don't even notice it after a bit of riding. It was definitely difficult to turn the first day on the 157W Deep Thinker.
Exactly, to each their own. Thanks for the comment!
I have the free thinker (and size 12 boot) and love the board but got to the point that I was dragging my toes deep carving on groomers and went wild and ordered a donek with a 30cm waist and it was certainly interesting first few turns, probably similar experience to your 8.5s on a commercial "wide"
I loved my k2 fat bob but the edge kept ripping out. I had to return a few of them. That was the answer to heel and toe drag. My first actual snowboard boot was the airwalk boot. The didn't offer the same support as the boots nowadays.
Haha, my first boots were Airwalk too. Like wearing thick, tall shoes. 😆
My first wide was a K2 Doublewide in 97... I've been running the W since other than my halfpipe board during my competition days.
I have a size 10 boots and looking at getting my very own new board! And I plan on just going with standard size!
Perfect, enjoy the ride!
love preferring the heelside! highbacks forward a bit to engage them.
wonderful info, size 13+ should go wide.
I see those ride bindings! Can't wait to try out my a-9's. I have the opposite problem with small feet. Using medium bindings with size 7.5 boot required me to strap in too tight. These small a-9's feel and look amazing. They sit the boot high with lots of padding but it's also stiff! Best of both worlds?
A9's are definitely rad bindings! SUPER responsive!!
I wear an 11.5 K2 2023 boot, have a bryan iguchi arbor 159 board, large Now bindings. Haven't had many issues, very occasionally i can catch a toe traversing in deep powder. Dont think I will ever get a wide board, love the nimble feeling of a regular snowboard
Keep rocking that nimble ride!
Valuable points, but if you’ve ever had a setup where you’ve had bootout, you’ll do whatever you can to avoid it haha It’s the WORST.
Definitely not fun, especially on icy days
I’m 6’ 180lb size 10 boot, just bought an all mountain lobster deck 158w (26.6 width) that’s shaped like a directional twin and slightly on the stiffer side of medium. My thoughts were with 3bt, added width and stiffness I could take a true twin board and make it perform a little better in powder/freeride especially if I adjust my binding positions, but still be an all mountain and park board. Also in the end it’s only 1.2cm wider than my other all mountain deck. I was wondering if I was on to something with the thought process or have I just wasted my time and money haha
Just like Matt said in the video, it can be all personal preference. The extra width is going to still make the board slower edge to edge for your size 10 boots. In all honesty I would have suggested a standard width board with a little more length.
It’s a lot about preference too, i have 10us boots and I always ride on wide board, even my park board is a 157w ride benchwarmer and I love it
For sure! Glad you found what you love and works best for you!
Was wondering where you were gonna end up!!! Glad to see you here!
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I feel I one that this video doesn't fully apply to. But as a size 12 rider who started in the early 90's I figured I should reply. I moved to a more serious set up around 2000. Its was a 164 wide board from ride. It could rip a carve great but wasn't overly fun in tighter stuff. 2005 I moved to a regular board and it was fine at a160 length. I am 6ft 180lbs. Much more fun to be on. I Had no issues on steeps carving over and dragging my hand. I've done the board tilt thing and also determined that it would be a nasty carve to lean that far. I've always wondered just how steep it would need to be for that to be an issue, pretty damn steep that most inbound terrain just doesnt have I assume. But still to this day when I look at boards wide stuff is still recommend or the volume shifted stuff. I don't know... that said the waist width is something that always bothered me. I don't care what the waist width is, at least for sizing. Would rather know the width at the binding mounts as boards have different side cuts. I think some provide this but rarely. Thanks for confirming what I found out for myself over the years.
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Awesome to see Matt again, and these new informative videos are INCREDIBLE! I just wonder if he moved down to Florida though? Flat and warm all year isn’t the best combination for stellar powder days…
Haha, thanks for the love! I did not move to Florida I’m actually up in Northern Michigan now. Definitely going to have more “on snow” time and be able to test more gear!!
Great video! I have size 13 boot but I use Ride twin pig 157 as my park board!
Perfect, yeah those Twinpigs are definitely a little wider than usual but surprisingly quick edge to edge
Was usually givena wide rental. This vudeo dispelled a lot of doubt i had on a good starter board i found on a killer sale. Thought my boots were too wide based on what a lot of other videos recommended but im feeling a bit more certain im within a good range on each edge
Glad this helped clear things up!
I’m bout 6ft 150lbs size 11-11.5 shoe and I ride a 157W. I would consider myself an advanced/expert snowboarder. When I was beginner/intermediate I was on a standard 156 twin. The extra length and width definitely helped me as my skill level grew but would not recommend for beginners.
Thanks for sharing!
I ride a 156 burton custom (25.6cm weist) with a boot us12 and never had an issue with drag. A lot of people tell me I need a W, I'm not a pro but I also do park sometimes and still no problem. I also use DC boots, very light and small boot, so maybe that helps.
Sweet set up you got! If it aint broke don't fix it!
I have a size 12 boot and 2.2 CM toe and heel overhang on my medium wide 262mm arbor element. Do you think this is too much where I'll boot out? There's so much conflicting information out there on snowboarding forum and other websites and videos. Some say you won't boot overhang another say that the boot should come right to the edge of the board.
Yeah, you will be more than fine. As you se in the video Matt had a size 12 on a much narrower board
Hello !
Im close to buy a Jones Mountain Twin 156W or 157 but i can't decide.
A very experienced (ex pro 2000ish) neighbor told me to get the 156W but all the shops seem to tell me to go 157 instead as it would be a mistake going wide.
Im 177cm 80kg boot size 27 MP (Nitro anthem). My feet size 268mm but my boot overall is near 300mm, measuring outside. It is equivalent to US9 at nitro but ive tried Salomon boots and im equivalent to a US10 there to be more comfy.
I would have it mounted with Union Force bindings, or STR.
The board waist width doesnt seem to have a huge difference from regular to wide (1cm ish) but given i keep my boards 10 years i really want to be sure lmao.
Im more of a slope- all mountain guy, i have some experience (been riding for 15 years but im something like average imo. All slopes, bit of powder, small rotations like 360 on bumps).
For now i ride a Apo Line 157 and i have 2cm hang from the board each front and back, and some shops (waxing) told me it was a bit much.
Thank you very much and sorry for the inconvenience !
Like Matt said and demonstrated in the videoin the video, it's all personal preference but there is no need for a wide board unless your foot is over a size 12. As long as your boots are centered on the board you will be more than fine, especially with a size 9-10US. Also if you are having trouble figuring out your boots size, check out this video that shows you how to know if you have the correct fit no matter what sizing guide you are following -> th-cam.com/video/bnN6ENRyoBc/w-d-xo.html
In addition, here is a video about adjusting your bindings to boots which includes centering your foot -> th-cam.com/video/5pcGsPgqWYY/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps, enjoy the ride
I love my 161w libtech but its run down lol. size 13 boots stepons. 8 years riding. travel for it. cut thru the slopes often. I also do double blacks ( Snowbird), Mammoth is home mountain
looking at the STUMP APE 161, its essentially wider than my favorite. but was looking at skunk ape 170UW
That’s a BIG board!!
Thanks for this. I am riding 162 (not wide) Libtech TRS C2, i bought this when I am novice, didn't now much about overhang and booting out. Now I can carve a little bit but I have overhang with my 10.5 boots. Never booted out but I have at least 3-3,5cm overhang. I'm still a little worried, I don't know what should I do when I improve my carving more. Feel a little confused right now.
Just like Matt said in the video, having your toes/heels hanging off is not a bad thing it’s just super important that your foot is centered. With a 10.5 you will have PLENTY of clearance and unless you are laying out super hard carves there’s nothing to worry about. Enjoy the ride!
@@PeterGlennSports thanks for your informing reply. i am not that advanced rider right now but still i am less worried now about carving
@@hsizadam enjoy the ride!!!
this was the video I was looking for! I'm 175-180lbs, 5'10" and I was freaking out thinking I needed a wide board as I wear a 9.5 ride deadbolt zonaland I see the overhang of the boots on the board as I ride 15/0 regular stance. A lot of articles/people are recommending wide boards for stability, etc and toe/heel drag, but looking at those angles most people will never hit those carves, which is why the video was so helpful - i probably won't, maybe in a few more seasons, if ever... So I'll end up sticking with the 159cm Ride Mountain Pig (252ww) instead of the 160w (261ww), and I also considered the 162cm at 257ww. Would you agree with my sizing or do you think differently? I haven't used the board yet so still able to return the 159cm, if needed..
You’ll be good to go on the 159, nailed it perfectly. Enjoy the ride!
Awesome video. Exactly the info i was looking for. Thanks mucho!
Glad it helped!
One pro about getting a Wide board is having that extra stability on jump landings, correct?
That is true, wider boards do give you a little more float in deep snow too but not enough to sacrifice your daily riding for most of your average riders.👍
Totally agree! Great demonstration of leverage)
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Great video! Exactly what I needed! Thank you.
No worries, glad it helped!
finally some good explanation. Thank you
No worries, glad it helped!
lol pushing it up against a flat table is not the same as carving across a slope
Thanks for saying this vid doesn’t apply to me
I’m 6’4 200lb size 13 boot I’ve been riding a normal 165 to learn on but my toe hangs off a ton I think I need a wide board
Yeah definitely couldn’t hurt
This is a really great video! Thanks once again! 🙏🏾
No worries, thanks for checking it out
Awesome video! It definitely helped me be a bit more comfortable in my choice for my first board. I am curious what you think of my decision:
I am 6ft but pretty light at 135 lbs. I wear a size 11 boot. I was going back and forth on whether or not to get a wide. I ended up settling on a normal 156.
I was worried at first that it is too narrow but after seeing the demonstrations in this video I now realize I would need to do a very steep carve to drag my toes.
Sounds like the 156 is perfect with your weight
With an inch ir slightly less of overhang, Isn't it going to boot out and deeper powder snow as opposed to artificial packed?
When you get into deep powder the snow is light an fluffy and you are not digging in with your edges like you do on harder packed snow. The softer the snow is the less you are actually carving hard and as you carve your board is sliding away from the carve more making a wider cut in the snow where there is slightly more room for your boot. And if you get into some of those slushy conditions where there is some harder snow underneath 9 times out of 10 its deep enough to hit you boot wether its hanging off the board or not. Hopefully that makes sense, I might have to make a follow up video actually 🤔
I took a deal on EVO for a 160W Jones Hovercraft 5 ft 10 and 180 pounds. I bought 10 Burton step-on boots and medium step-on bindings. This won't allow me to carve quick, but should it benefit me in powder and freeride? It is directional, so I will likely have it set to 15/0. What are your thoughts? There is an 8 mm (.31 in) difference, which doesn't seem like much in waist width.
Your setup with the 160W Jones Hovercraft should work well for powder and freeriding. The Hovercraft's directional shape and floaty design excel in deep snow, making it a great choice for those conditions. While the 8 mm difference in waist width might not seem significant, it can help provide a bit more stability, especially with wider feet in Step-On boots. The 15/0 stance should offer a good balance for both powder performance and maneuverability. Overall, it sounds like a solid choice for your riding style!
Very insightful video, wish I had done more digging before I bought. For someone 6'2 230lb and size 12 boot, would a 163 be better than a 161W?
Depends on the board but like Matt said in the video, whatever 163 you are looking at will probably already have a waist width that is plenty wide for your 12’s so check that out because in general a board in the mid 160’s is going to fit your height/weight much better.
@@PeterGlennSports Much appreciated!
I have size 11.5 boot with an 158 board (yes typo 2016-17)and my toe side hangs over like 5cm and heel side 2-3ish cm. Do you think this will work out or should i look at a wider board?
Hi bro! Could you give me ur opinion please? Iam an intermediate rider. 1.83cm tall, 93kg weight and boots walth burton step on size 11.5 with genesis step on bindings size L. Iam a noobie in carving. Burton web recommends me a W board. Would you too?
@@nanocalderon1997 haha, saw your DM on instagram before your comment here. If you are checking out boards in your size range (162-164) most are going to have wider waist widths already. You really just need to take into account everything that is said in the video (actual waist, skill level, conditions, specific board, etc) to see if you would benefit or not from a wide board.
I am built like a tree trunk at 6'2" 215-225 lbs, but have a size 10 foot. I have actually considered a wide due to my size and not my foot size. I would really love to demo a normal and wide board back to back to see if I can tell much of a difference.
Yeah, you definitely don't need a wider board. You are a pretty average weight for your height so really any standard width board that fits you will be good. You can also offest that a bit just by checking out medium/stiff to stiff boards. 👍
@@PeterGlennSports Yeah, I have been riding for 28 years now and have never ridden a wide. I guess I would just like to feel the difference. I ride a Capita BSOD, so a fairly still board.
I was looking into the Salomon Huck Knife Pro and seems like I exceed the recommended weight limit for the 159, but not the 159 wide which I thought was kind of odd.
@@nicklarson801 Yeah, thats the hard part about wide boards, with the little extra width "technically" it will hold a little more weight but then the board is slower edge to edge and harder to push the edge in without a bigger foot. If you are looking at more all mountain/park style boards like the Huck Knife pro I'd look at the Never Summer Proto Ultra 160. Twin Tip, park shape but with more all mountain style guts and slightly stiffer than most boards with a similar riding style-> www.peterglenn.com/product/never-summer-proto-ultra-snowboard-mens-1
Need your opinion on the new capita Megadeath. Smallest size is 156cm, worried about the with being too wide for me. I’m 5’4, weigh 150lbs with gear, wears size 8 boots. Planning to use it as my all mountain freeride board. For comparison My current daily quiver is a custom 150cm and my freeride powder board is a 147 Libtech orca. I’m a intermediate aggressive rider but I think the 156 will be too wide especially in between trees, carving. Thanks!
It definitely might feel a little sluggish but one thing that is good to note. If you can handle the aggressiveness of the Mega Death then you will be able to handle the extra width. If you are not sure, you might be better off on something like a 152 HTH for an all mtn/freeride style board.
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@@PeterGlennSports that’s what I thought. And great recommendation on the the HTH. You’ve been great as always. Thanks again.
Great video Dude. Incredibly helpful. I was having a nervous breakdown when i put my large est Malavitas on a burton antler 157.5 length and i noticed the toe hang. Coincidentally my antler board is 251 waist width and I have size 12 boots so this video, visual aid and your explanations were very helpful. I was concerned I needed to pull my bindings more toward the heel side edge to prevent toe overhang or get a different board. In your visual aid the bindings look completely centered on that board. Should i have the est binding in the red reference line?
It’s all about the boots, just make sure that your toes and heel are hanging off the same amount. Check out this video about adjusting your bindings to boots 👍
th-cam.com/video/5pcGsPgqWYY/w-d-xo.html
I basically started riding on a 165w twin camber for the total 8 days i have ridden snowboard and was ripping black diamonds the last 4 days. I'm so excited to see what switching to a narrower and slightly shorter board does for my riding and hope that how hard i had to work to carve the previous board lets me absolutely rip this season!
Sounds good! We actually have a GREAT video about board sizing dropping on the 16th. Stay tuned!
I went from a 164W Burton Custom X to a 160 K2 Alchemist. My new 10.5 Burton Ion boots have a super small template. I use posi on the front foot and slightly posit on the rear as I love jamming those side hits. What a great sport!
Most hopeful video ive ever watched thank you 😭😭
No worries, glad it helped!
this video is so good man!
🙏 much appreciated
I really like the new YES Jackpot 2025 snowboard. I am looking for a new park board that is slightly more aggressive and can handle stomping medium/large jumps (30-50 ft). I was bummed to realize they don't carry this board in a "wide" version, and I've only ever purchased wide boards. I wear size 11.5 salomon launch BOA SJ park boots, and I've generally ridden boards with a waist width of 25.8cm and up. The YES jackpot 158cm board has a waist width of 25.6cm. Would you recommend buying this board for the aggressive park riding and maybe a little all mountain riding I will be doing, or would you suggest I size up and go with a wider board? For additional context I am 6'0 and 180lbs.
The 2 millimeter difference in waist width isn't going to be much smaller then the waist width of the other boards you are currently riding. it is going to be a great board for your riding style you can definitely get away with it if you are riding a 15, -15 stance. Going up in size wouldn't hurt either like finding a Libtech board with their wides they go up to 26.8 in waist width which would still be killer for in and out of the park going through the trees and doing some bigger cornice drops.
ive been making my own risers for a years. larger feet, skinny board. super fun. just raise your bindings off the board
I like your style!
What about for weight... I'm 6'4" 260lbs sz 13 shoe /12.5 snow boot. I'm looking for a good beginner/intermediate board.
Definitely go for a wide board, something in the 165-169 range
Hello! Thank you for the video! I’m 6’3, 165lb, 10us, and could use some more input. I’m currently deciding between a Bataleon 161w (26.9) or 164w (27.2) and Burton 165 (27.0). I think I understand I don’t need a wide board though I was given a Burton 165w when renting and I had a ton of fun on it. Thoughts? Thank you in advance.
Just like Matt said in the video you don’t need a wide board with a size 10 but it’s completely up to you if you want to get one
hmm just got a new set up, new boots, board and so now iam a bit scared it wont fit cause i dont wanted the wideboard cause of mobility xD i got 3,5 cm overhang at Backfoot, front +12 and back -12 degree got a 155 board mid is 251mm. Got an 11 Boot from Vans. But seems possible :D
Just make sure your foot is centered up on the board from toe to heel 👍 How To Properly Fit Your Snowboard Bindings To Your Boots
th-cam.com/video/5pcGsPgqWYY/w-d-xo.html
Hi Peter, thank a lot for your video. I would need your approval, I have 11 boot and I would need to buy a burtom custom 162 with 256 waist... I got from your video that I should be quite right, even for carving. Thanks
Yes, you will be able to carve on that. How low you can get in your carves will be up to you and how you have your angles set.
Need HELP to chose snowboard for snow boots size 14
Im 6.1, 164lb, Snowboard boots size 14 (K2 Maysis) and Union Force XL - bindings (I like to ride +15-12 angles)
..going to ride on north east(Upstate NY). Skill: 3rd year (intermediate)
Im not sure which of these to choose?
Lib Tech Skunk Ape C2X Snowboard 2025
161W(Waist width: 268)
165W(Waist width: 268)
163UW(Waist width: 280)
I bought 161W(Lib Tech Skunk Ape C2X Snowboard 2025
I can still return and reorder), will it work for me? or I should get 165W or 163UW?
Thanks
So I went to a local snowboard shop near me and I ended up getting the Bataleon Goliath in a size 158W. I’m 5’9 and weigh 210 and I wear a size 9.5 boots and they recommended the 158W which I had difficulty riding. I used my buddies 157 Bataleon Evil Twin board and barely fell and was having an easier time controlling the board. Is the 158W board way too big of a board for me? I want to contact the shop and see if I can exchange the board for one my size but i don’t know if they’ll accept that return/exchange since I used the board. Thank you for your time!
Yeah you definitely don’t need a wide board. You can try always try to exchange 🤷♂️. Can’t hurt to ask the worst they can say is no
I thrifted some boots from the 90s i think and they are huge
Boots have come a long way since the 90's. As long as you have the right fit you are good to go!
Got a New APO (Apocalypse?) board that has a crazy reference stance, think it's a French company.
It was a 2014 Monster ridden by Sage K. in the 2014 Olympics got gold. Know anything about these boards???
as not a lot on the internet about this company. Thanks!
Yeah, definitely a smaller European company. Never got to see one in person, haven't seen one out on the market since 2015-2016
Im an intermediate progressing pretty quick and looking into buying my first board and I was thinking the rome warden. Im 6’4 175 and an 11.5 boot size, would you say a 157W would be a good choice for me?
Warden is a pretty cool board but like Matt said in the video you don’t necessarily NEED a wide board. Also for your height I’d go with something a bit longer. Check out this video about board sizing for a great visual explanation-> How To Choose The Right Size Snowboard
th-cam.com/video/imGSIiw-vQA/w-d-xo.html
I remember back when people wore Sorel's and the airwalks were popular. I had some morrow's where your toes would get so damn cold and the front would dig into your shins and cut your skin but that was such a great era. I will never forget demoing a Jamie Lynn lib tech back in 95 and what a great day that was.
@@araucariasightings3247 my first boots were Airwalks. So stoked to have em I wore em to school! 😂
@@PeterGlennSports That's awesome. That sounds like something I would have done. I have a lot of nostalgic 90's skate and snowboard memories with the old school boards and gear. I really cherish those days. I had a 5150 snowboard with PBS bindings for my first board then after that got a Ingemar Backman Atlantis. After that I think was Jamie Lynn Lib Techs for a long time with some old Burtons in between. So many great memories back when snowboarding wasn't so popular. My first video was TB3 and then the Mack Dawg melt down project. They had such a huge impact on my childhood. I really miss the old etnies skate shoes from the early to mid 90's.
nice details! I actually have the opposite problem: 5'8 heigh, 140lbs, but US mens 7.5 boots (25.5cm mondo feet). I'm currently using womens boards, 152cm with 24.2cm wide. What do you think? what would be the max width I could ride without too many problems?
With a 7.5 I for sure wouldn’t look for wider boards
Hi glen , how important is to follow the kg recommendation from the manufacturer. I have an 160cm snowboard that can handle up to 78kg. When I was 100 kg I was falling a lot and I couldn't stop
Those can be good numbers to look at but not something to dwell on. As you have experienced just like Matt said in the video, heavier riders need either bigger or stiffer boards under their feet.
This was some really great info!
Thanks, glad it helped
Thanks, glad it helped
Nice video , I was looking last season for a all mountain board to help me to improve my freestyle but not quit riding the whole mountain , the guy form the store recommended me the yes standard which is really nice board and I loved it
But is super wide and he said bro you need a wide board because you are 11 size but I miss to ride normal width board full classic camber
So after to watch this video I’m gonna look for some classic camber board not wide
Still love wide board even more when you have some powder
You cant just have one board if you are very into snowboard right haha
Thanks for the video
Can never have too many boards! Definitely a good idea to test out the classic camber and see how it rides in powder compared to the wide.
I'm 180cm tall and have shoe size 45 (US 12 ). The snowboard I want to buy is 253 mm wide in the middle and I'm a beginner. That fits, right?
The 253 mm width you're considering is right at the upper end of the typical range for a wide board, but it should still work great, especially if you want more stability and avoid any edge catches.
Nice video. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
So, I'm 6' and 165lbs size 11 boot. Looking for another board to complement my 155 name dropper. That board is a lot of fun, but as I've gotten older I really want more of an all mountain hard charger, something that's going to carve like a knife, but still hit side hits and good sized jumps. The name dropper gets a little squirrely at high speed through the chatter and it becomes a lot of work to get that thing to carve hard at speed (especially heel side). Was looking at the burton custom camber and was wondering what size you'd recommend? Was thinking either 158 or 158W, wide only because it feels like my heels can dig into the snow sometimes on really hard heel edge carves on the name dropper (maybe just the nature of that board being rocker and softer?) My stance is centered on that board, heel/toe overhang, but maybe I don't need a wide board? Let me know what you think. Thanks!
Yeah definitely no need for the wide with a size 11. I would bump up to the 162 though. You are on the lighter side for your height but you still have a higher center of gravity and more leverage over the board. Plus if you are keeping the Name Dropper for park/chill riding the 158 is too close in size. You’ll want a little more stability for high speed riding and carving. Check out this video about sizing for a great visual explanation especially about being lighter for your height -> How To Choose The Right Size Snowboard
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Right on, thanks!@@PeterGlennSports
With boot 10.5 as first board got 154w second more intermediate board bought 157w(I got heavier) I’ve been riding 157w and it felt sluggish, then my girlfriend bought her first board which was 152 248 wrist width so we changed on the hill to try out and I was perfectly able to carve blues and reds. Then I tried several normal width boards and they were much better for me, I’ve been riding wide bcs thought that it’s from 10+
It's pretty cool how much of a difference it can make eh?. Stoked you're getting on the right width now. Enjoy the ride!
Awesome vid! Wondering what size board I should go with for Ride Algorythm Snowboard 2024. 6’0 180lb. Size 11 boot. 154 or 157? I was thinking 155W but after this vid def not i just want a playful feel thanks!
Honestly I wouldn’t go any smaller than the 161. www.peterglenn.com/product/ride-algorhythm-snowboard-mens
@@PeterGlennSports Thank you!!
Binding footbeds matter. Those footbeds are thick. gnu bindings are very thin for instance and will have your boots dragging before those bindings with thicker beds would. Good to keep in mind.
100%, the angle of the toe ramp as well!
Hi there. Love the content. I’m 6’2” 200 lbs with size 13 boots. Intermediate riding +15/-15 angles. What’s the minimum width size you think I could get away with?
I would just stick with any of the “wide” specific models when you are looking at boards or like Matt said in the video boards with waist widths in that are upper 25 getting into 26
Thank you!
any videos on winged highback benefits?
Nothing yet, the winged highbacks are basically to give you a little extra something to lean on. Whether its for more leverage on presses when riding boxes and rails or for a little extra lateral stability on landings.
I wear a size 12 and went wide, it actually hurt my skill and performance. I shredded way harder on a normal waist size.
100% 👍
riding boot 11 on 254 mm waist, i feel toe drag rarly only when a fresh snow covering with ice crust. but you really should have boot with small foot print
You know it! And even on those days when your board sinks in to that soft snow your toes are going to hit even if they weren't hanging off the board. Thanks for the watch and comment, keep ripping!
For a 10.5 Vans boot do you recommend a m/l or a l/xl binding? Seems like that's right where most binding brands have some overlap.
I would recommend going with the M/L binding size. Many brands do have some overlap in the sizing, but typically, a 10.5 boot falls closer to the middle of the M/L range
im in the uk i think a us 12 is a uk size 10 im looking for my first board through decathlon they recommend a wide for a uk 9.5 (eu44) upwards im a 9.5/10 im 6ft weight shifts between 75-85kg i just got a snb 100: 160 midwide not allot of places that you can walk into for advice here in the uk hopefully i got the right setup
The midwide width should give you enough room for your boot size to prevent toe and heel drag, but it’s always good to check the board's actual width to ensure it matches your boots.
Hey I am 6 feet and 260lb, i ride park and some steep runs. I have size 12 boot do i need a 162 or a 163W?
I'd go with the 163W
I wear an 11 size boot. What cm length should I being looking for?
No specific cm width. Just keep in mind when you are shopping for a board, in your correct size that you don't need to get a "wide" (if the board comes in a specific wide version)
I’m an intermediate snowboarder who is 6’1, 180 lbs, and wears size 11.5 boots with large Ride Capo bindings. I’m considering purchasing the Ride Shadowban (a do it all set back quiver killer with mostly rocker), but are torn between the 157 which has a waist width of 254mm, and the 160W which has a waist width of 260mm and is perfect for my weight according to rides sizing chart. Which out of the two would you recommend for my specs? If I got the 160W would it add that much of a difference that I would have a hard time turning, especially in trees?
Honestly I’d suggest the 161.
@@PeterGlennSports is a 161 not too long though? Especially if I want to make quick turns through trees and do butters, jibs, and spins in the park?
@@theneighbor4209 not at all, we’re talking centimeters here so even from a 157 to 161 we’re only talking 4cm. The biggest thing you’ll notice is more spring, edge hold, and most importantly stability. Check out the “sizing” video, especially around the 4:30 mark for a great visual explanation-> th-cam.com/video/imGSIiw-vQA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=g0wLSPGFwRWvVy2J
How about bindings overhanging? I bought the rome artifact pro 153 with 25.4 waist width. I would like to use the union strata bindings size L and they overhang a lil bit on toe and heel side. I would use vans aura pro size 11,5. Is this a match?
Put your bindings and boots on the board and tilt it to one side until the boots touch the table. Do you think you are going to get that low in your carves? if not then the board is wide enough for you.
@@PeterGlennSportsI did this like in the video. But i also did this on a surface with an angle and the difference is smaller. I’m just worried for when i would put on full break on steeper slopes. It can be dangerous if you want to break on a steeper slope and u lose grip because of heeldrag? I have 2.5 cm heel overhang.
Love your channel, subbed! I have a question, maybe you can help with.
I recently bought the Bataleon Goliath 159, I wear boot size EU 43 (= US 10), I didn't make a mistake by not buying a wide board right?
Not at all, like Matt said in the video 12 is really the tipping point for NEEDING a wide.
Hi, what about carving in softer snow?
When you cut in about 4-5 cm everything looks different.
Riding 10.5 Nitros on less than 256 with an angle of 15 ist not working beeing a strong Carver.
Wide boards are definitely best for carving, you'll get more stability and floatation that way
Is it beneficial to use a wide board for powder days? I’m a size 12 and when I use my trick pony 158 I feel my toes or heels dragging..
In powder you can definitely benefit from a wider board. A board turns different in deep snow, its much easier. Kind of think about how surfboard or wakeboard turns in water.
@@PeterGlennSports thanks.. if I do go for a wider board can I go down in size?
@@tapostol25 You can but you'll find that most pow boards are already going to be volume shifted so just go with the recommended size
I have a 9.5 size boots and a 156 -regular size- snowboard.
Do you think I need a wide board?
Not at all, like Matt said in the video even a size 12 doesn’t necessarily need a wide
Dude this video helped so much, I was really wanting the aeronaut at first in the 159 or 61 with a size 12, don’t see myself carving that low ever no matter how good I am, don’t really want to either lol thoughts?
The Aeronaut is definitely a dope board and you'll be fine with a 12. The 161 even has as a 25.9 waist which is the width of some "wide" boards on the market.
thanks this was very helpful
Happy to help!
Hi there! Looking at a Gnu Forest Bailey 4x4 and can't decide on the 157 or 160. Their respective widths are 25.5 & 25.7, and flex of 6 & 7 (10=stiff). I'm 6'0", 175lbs and size 11 shoe. I like to butter and press, trying to get something that's a little more all-mountain than my 156w skate banana. Should I opt for the 160 even though it's stiffer than the 157? I assume my shoe size and the slight mm waist difference won't matter much in the end. Any input is appreciated!
With how tall you are you would have a blast on the 160 because you already have a board for other conditions/ park.
Just got the vans infuse size 10. Their footprint is actually almost identical to my previous thirtytwo TM2 in size 11 (I sized them wrong, Oops). Should I go for the Jones mountain twin in 160 (25.7cm waist width) or 162W (26.3cm waist width)? Thanks!
Just like Matt said in the video, no need for a wide with anything 12 or under. Just personal preference at that point.
Man, great video but now I’m second guessing my recent purchase of the Mega Death. I bought a 161W based on the weight recommendation and the customer service rep primarily. I’m 5’11”, 205lbs, 11.5 size boot. The range for that board is up to 210 with everything else up to 200. You think it’s worth trying to exchange? I don’t want to sacrifice much pop, but maneuverability is probably more important. I appreciate your thoughts!
Up to you, I personally am 5'11" 200lbs with a size 11 boot and rode the 159 with zero issues. Also like Matt said in the video. Depending on your exact skill level and how hard you are actually carving you might not need the wide.
Hi, I'm 205lbs size 12.5 shoes, I rented a board last season that was 160 which was fine, but I'm looking to purchase 158 or 159. Do you think that's too small? Or I should stick to 160(like the one I rented)? I'm looking for something easier to turn so I can carve and go edge to edge easier.
It depends on the board, how tall are you?
@@PeterGlennSports 6'0"
@@ADeleven Honestly at 6' 205 you might want to stick with boards in the low 160-164 range unless you are planning on getting a board for only riding park. Check out this video about sizing for a great explanation about proper sizing -> th-cam.com/video/imGSIiw-vQA/w-d-xo.html
@@PeterGlennSports appreciate the help 🙏
I have size 10.5 boots and Large bindings. Do I need wide or do I have both options?
It's up to personal preference for sure. If you're gonna be doing heavy carving the wide is typically a smarter option but you can get away with a regular board as long as there's not too much overhang.
I hate wide boards, and everyone still says me I need it. I have size 11, and no, i won't be using a wide board
Definitely don’t need it 👍
I have US11 boot. What sizes Board is OK for you. Thinking to buy Salomln Hugh Knife but still thinking is it ok.
@@shakejuntti Like Matt said in the video you don't need a wide version. Just find the size that fits you properly in a standard version.
Im a 295 lb, 5' 11", size 12 Burton boot, beginner. I have the 161w Skink ape from a couple years back. Does this make sense for me? I did a couple of days at keystone last year on it and it seemed fine, but maybe there are better options?
You should be fine on that board. Ideally you'd want something a little closer to the mid 160's would give you more stability and edge hold. Especially as you start riding at faster speeds. Another grerat option is volume shift boards, where you can have a board that is a little closer to your height requirements but feel like bigger boards under your feet. Check out this video about those -> th-cam.com/video/4uehOtKStNg/w-d-xo.html
If you are an advaced rider with boot size 10 or more, go for a wide board. You will definitly start to try carving an then it will be the end with a normal board. Always this "edge to edge" 🙈. For an advanced rider this is not an argument.
The board, you mounted for size 12 boot, is awfull. You will boot out all the time.
I have boot size 290mm and I ride a burton custom 169W. If it comes to soft snow, I see two Lines in the snow. One from the edge, one from the boot.
My recommendation for advanced riders: do not by a board with more than 5 mm boot overhang.
Great Video!
Thanks!
I need to share with too many of my friends❤
Show em the way!!! 😄