Wow was not expecting this comment 🤩 listen you guys made a cracking set of pedals well done, I have the Grid Brows and your XB1 handbrake that I am testing and so far loving them also. But here not to be cheeky 😉 but your welcome to send products my way to test 🤪😘
Thanks! As a simracer, I know what is important so that made it a lot easier to develop this set. Keep it up and we are happy to help out with providing products when the channel keeps growing! 🙌🏻
I actually did not realise this was a problem but since have changed to windows 11 and having same issue 🤦🏼♂️😞 seen on website they are aware of issues but that its Microsoft that needs to fix & not them 🤷🏼♂️ I will put a link below see the orange box 👇🏼 sim-lab.eu/en-gb/pages/racedirector-software
Made an excellent choice matey, you are going to be very happy 😃 I actually forgot to add the software section into the review 🤦🏼♂️ only problem I had was I had to uninstall my antivirus software temporarily to install their software. Bit of a ball ache but nothing major. They actually have a message on their website stating that they have issue with Windows 11 🤷🏼♂️
Had them since release and honestly love them. Have added 0.4K to my iRating in about six weeks after plateauing for a while and put it down to this upgrade. As you mention, people should probably cost for a heel plate if they don’t already have one, as distance between rig pedal plate and pedal face will be too much for the majority of shoe sizes. I made mine out of some stiffened foam insert I bought off eBay for fairly cheap and reversed the pedal face 180 degrees, for example.
I have been running HE Sprints for a few years. I like them. These, however, look so much more sleek and robust. I assume they would perform very similarly to my Sprints. Therefore I cannot justify buying them. However, I keep coming back to look at them. I hope to make the Austin sim racing expo and maybe try them out. They would pair well with my P1-X.
I have both these and sprints. The sprints are capped at 65kg brake pressure in the software the xp1 can go a fair bit beyond that. The XP1’s also have more adjustments out of box you get 5 different elastomers and 3 different springs and a solid aluminium spacer if you don’t want to use a spring. Imo the XP1’s definitely the better pedal however I would not recommend you sell your sprints unless you max out the brake and want some more pressure available to use. However simlabs do offer specials a couple of times a year so maybe wait and see what’s happening on Black Friday if you do feel like a change 🙌🏻
These pedals are amazing, absolutely love mine. The Race Director software running under Windows 11 gets deleted every reboot because Windows thinks its "malicious software". So I have to reinstall it every day......Please fix this.
Recently changed to windows 11 😞 and having the same issue 🤦🏼♂️ pedals are amazing but don’t want to have to disable all antivirus and firewalls to run Race Director.
@@brandonanderson2443I have tried making exceptions but no matter how many times I say allow it does same again 🤦🏼♂️ but most likely I’m the stupid one ☝️
I have had 2 major failing with the throttle pedal, on both times the magnetic sensor has sheard off the pedal. Both were terminal, after the 1st one simplace replaced the pedal quickly without any fuss, however after the second failing, Sim Lab has said they will repair it, 1 failing can be down to anything, however 2 failings, means to me the pedals are not Fit for purpose
I have heard some people complaining about the brake pedal being squeaky but nothing regarding the throttle but yes it has happened twice then that’s not good. Did they repair your throttle or send a new one to you?
@@TheSimCircuit tbh the customer service of Simplace, who I bought the pedals from and Simlab has been excellent. They are sending out a third throttle pedal, so I can only hope 🤞
Well mate I own both and I can imagine it’s a hard choice but rest assured does not matter if you go p1000 or xp1’s you will be happy with either. I love running my xp1’s especially now I got the haptics connected to them 🤩 the xp1’s are more adjustable that’s why I prefer using them but if the addons like hydraulics are important to you then p1000s are ones to go with 🤷🏼♂️ Sorry if I did not the choice easier 🫣
@@Super-Schopenhauer you buy a bracket to fit haptic shaker to pedals from Etsy (if you can’t find a bracket for xp1’s message me on Facebook I can possibly print one for you) Then you will need the control box for haptic shaker and power supply I will link both bellow shop.simagic.com/products/p2000-hcb shop.simagic.com/products/simagic-hpb-bundle?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=059accb32&pr_rec_pid=9555040469295&pr_ref_pid=9369823936815&pr_seq=uniform
Hi, and wish you the best for your YT channel ! Keep going no matter what ppl saying... I was almost sure to buy the Simagic with the Haptic system = now these are better. Wondering = can we install haptic on these?
Haptics will be a diy job on these, not impossible but allot of work. If you want haptic feedback go with SiMagic. Watch my latest video about the p1000 the brakes are now fixed. Still not as accurate as what these pedals are but will now be ok for 99% of sim racers. If shakers are not a priority then go with the SimLab xp1 pedals. Choices are getting much harder for us not like few years ago when choices were limited.
@@TheSimCircuit I really like the SimLab xp1 and I feel confident I can DIY haptics there. Nice start with your YT - looking solid and good work! Bravo and enjoy the journey! Soon 1k followers and in 1yr 10k +!
Why yes! Yes they will! Lol Also please keep in mind gt3 and gt4 cara do not have stiff brakes thats a false narrative that sim racing brands ran with. I own 2 and I run a bmw gt3 they have way more travel then most sim pedals do. Most real gt3 drivers will also tell you as gamer muscle and othera interviewed all said more travel then sim racing pedals have. It helps with modulation in a real car and trail braking. Its also why i run my pedals with mote travle like dan sazuka and others I know do. You wiuld be truely surprised how a real gt3 brake feels. Look up a video of a real gt3 brake being used it will blow your mind. This was just a sim brand saying something was realistic and other brqnda ran with it. Luckoly now we are getting much different pedals now truely realistic. Like the gt3 preset for simucube active pedals hsve more travek then you would expect it eas madr by a professional. That preset i mean. The p2000s out of the box is the closes ive felt to a real gt3 brake. Almost identical to my bmw. I think simlabs out of the box are shockingly close also. Just not as good with the progressive feel. It should be very progresive and very easy to modulate Best thing to do is go watch random callsigns video on debinking som pedals by pro racers. You would absolutely love that video and its very informative about brake pedals and the false narrative made by sim brands when you hear just how much more travel real brakes have. Most sim pedals that are brick walls are more like f1 pedals.
Il go look for that video matey, I do think it’s great that there is option for stiff brake pedals on the market. I personally do prefer a harder brake pedal and find myself almost always fitting harder springs and elastomers than what is normally fitted onto pedals. I been using p500 last few weeks and have also gotten use to a softer pedals only fitted with springs and the p500 were very accurate. This weekend at the expo I tried quite a few pedals but naturally just because I like harder brake I did enjoy using SRP pedals that were setup very hard and I was testing the new Invicta wheel for an hour plus on an all Asetek setup and love the Invicta pedals and I love my invictas lol 🤦🏼♂️ I think you are referring to Asetek when talking about making everyone believe you need a harder pedal right? But anyway what I am trying to say badly is that brakes are so subjective what feels great for someone else does not for others 🤷🏼♂️ I would probably say that 9 out of 10 people don’t like hard brakes but I am definitely one of the ones that do 🤷🏼♂️ I will do my best going forward with new pedals I review to maybe make a scale of how stiff pedals are at their softest and hardest setup 😘
I have ordered the same but I am currently comparing 2 new exciters that have come out recently. I will combine whichever is best also with the HPR. This way its possible to have Simhub effects operate with much wider frequency range and for other effects too @@TheSimCircuit
Congratulations for your videos. ONE QUESTION, PLEASE: Between the Sim-Lab XP1 and the Simagic P1000 pedals, which is the best, according to your experience and your tests? Thank you in advance.
If you are buying the standard P1000’s then I think Sim-Lab XP1 pedals are better. However if you upgrade the p1000 pedals then I think the p1000’s are slightly better but after upgrading the p1000’s they will cost allot more than the XP1 pedals. I think out of the box the XP1 pedals offer allot for the money they can be adjusted to suit almost any sim racer but you can’t upgrade the XP1’s but I did get the SiMagic shakers to work on my XP1 pedals. Again this is a tough decision 😂🫣
I believe in iracing when calibrating that’s the case I’m going to have a look later and check telemetry data I will except these to be more accurate than increments of 1%
Personally I prefer these but only because the invictas you need to push with allot of power to be able to utilise the 2 stage braking, I have an injury in my left knee so the SimLabs more comfortable to me to use. SimLabs very adjustable can feel like a real sports car or stiffened like a race car. Asetek makes no excuses they are emulating real race cars so pedals very short travel & very stiff Both amazing sets of pedals
Obviously missing the haptic feedback allot as it is a game changer but these are more precise and accurate for sure even when compared to the p1000 PHYS hydraulic system. So if you are a professional sim racer I think that 5% difference in drop off might be something to consider but for the likes of 99% of simracers I would say the 5-8% drop off with the siMagic p1000 is acceptable. Also the SimLab pedals are not hydraulic 🤷🏼♂️ choices are getting harder in the Sim market 😊
@@TheSimCircuit i 3d printed mounts for rumble motors for throttle and brake. I use the lower clevis fork holes so they mount to the top ones and they work great! maybe someone can create a mount for the simagic haptic reactors?
I just had a look and I can’t see any problems with mounting them if that’s what you are worried about. I would consider a good rig and pedals probably thee most important things when buying sim gear. Yes a direct drive base is nice but without a solid foundation it’s no good and as for pedals they are the one thing that can certainly make you faster and more consistent compared to other upgrades. I would say if you are planning on buying both a set of pedals & a rig then go ahead and buy the pedals as it won’t be a money wasted cause when you do buy a rig you just gona slap them onto your new rig anyway 🙌🏻
Cant find, not sure if I confused with this post for SiMagic pedals but principal should be the same. Try contact someone that does 3D printing. Link I found 👇🏼 📸 Look at this post on Facebook facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10231406412962932&set=gm.1463839090845863&type=3&mibextid=WC7FNe
this review... you won us over haha! Loved it. Thanks!
Wow was not expecting this comment 🤩 listen you guys made a cracking set of pedals well done, I have the Grid Brows and your XB1 handbrake that I am testing and so far loving them also.
But here not to be cheeky 😉 but your welcome to send products my way to test 🤪😘
Thanks! As a simracer, I know what is important so that made it a lot easier to develop this set. Keep it up and we are happy to help out with providing products when the channel keeps growing! 🙌🏻
Cheers 🥂
Are you aware that Windows 11 Defender deletes your Race Director Software?
I actually did not realise this was a problem but since have changed to windows 11 and having same issue 🤦🏼♂️😞 seen on website they are aware of issues but that its Microsoft that needs to fix & not them 🤷🏼♂️
I will put a link below see the orange box 👇🏼
sim-lab.eu/en-gb/pages/racedirector-software
I ordered mine 4 days ago ! Nice to have such video to see while waiting !
Made an excellent choice matey, you are going to be very happy 😃 I actually forgot to add the software section into the review 🤦🏼♂️ only problem I had was I had to uninstall my antivirus software temporarily to install their software. Bit of a ball ache but nothing major. They actually have a message on their website stating that they have issue with Windows 11 🤷🏼♂️
@@TheSimCircuit OK. SW already installed ! No problem, under Win10 ... Can't see the need to install Malware11 ...
You talked me into a sub. Merry Christmas. I'm really liking these pedals. Nice review!
Cheers matey & merry Christmas 🎅🏼 im away for family holiday back in 10 days hope to see you watching 😜
Had them since release and honestly love them. Have added 0.4K to my iRating in about six weeks after plateauing for a while and put it down to this upgrade. As you mention, people should probably cost for a heel plate if they don’t already have one, as distance between rig pedal plate and pedal face will be too much for the majority of shoe sizes. I made mine out of some stiffened foam insert I bought off eBay for fairly cheap and reversed the pedal face 180 degrees, for example.
I love these pedals, but yea think a heel rest is a must with these
I have been running HE Sprints for a few years. I like them. These, however, look so much more sleek and robust. I assume they would perform very similarly to my Sprints. Therefore I cannot justify buying them. However, I keep coming back to look at them. I hope to make the Austin sim racing expo and maybe try them out. They would pair well with my P1-X.
I have both these and sprints. The sprints are capped at 65kg brake pressure in the software the xp1 can go a fair bit beyond that. The XP1’s also have more adjustments out of box you get 5 different elastomers and 3 different springs and a solid aluminium spacer if you don’t want to use a spring.
Imo the XP1’s definitely the better pedal however I would not recommend you sell your sprints unless you max out the brake and want some more pressure available to use.
However simlabs do offer specials a couple of times a year so maybe wait and see what’s happening on Black Friday if you do feel like a change 🙌🏻
Fantastic video, glad I came across it! I've been looking into these pedals and this was the video that has me convinced. Subbed
Great to hear, thanks for watching matey it’s appreciated 🙌🏻
These pedals are amazing, absolutely love mine. The Race Director software running under Windows 11 gets deleted every reboot because Windows thinks its "malicious software". So I have to reinstall it every day......Please fix this.
Recently changed to windows 11 😞 and having the same issue 🤦🏼♂️ pedals are amazing but don’t want to have to disable all antivirus and firewalls to run Race Director.
When you download it again.. after it says it’s malware go into those settings and change it to accepted.
@@brandonanderson2443I have tried making exceptions but no matter how many times I say allow it does same again 🤦🏼♂️ but most likely I’m the stupid one ☝️
New sub right here! Thank you for the content!
You are very welcome matey and a big thank you for watching 🙌🏻 it is much appreciated 💪🏼
I have had 2 major failing with the throttle pedal, on both times the magnetic sensor has sheard off the pedal. Both were terminal, after the 1st one simplace replaced the pedal quickly without any fuss, however after the second failing, Sim Lab has said they will repair it, 1 failing can be down to anything, however 2 failings, means to me the pedals are not Fit for purpose
I have heard some people complaining about the brake pedal being squeaky but nothing regarding the throttle but yes it has happened twice then that’s not good. Did they repair your throttle or send a new one to you?
@@TheSimCircuit tbh the customer service of Simplace, who I bought the pedals from and Simlab has been excellent. They are sending out a third throttle pedal, so I can only hope 🤞
@@hymiegoddard3358 🤞🏼 3de time a charm, I hope that this is but a speed bump and that you will have many happy hours using these pedals. 🙌🏻
Yess, another review!!!
I'm struggling ! P1000 or XP1.... weeks that I can't choose between those both. What do you think? Can you help ? Thanks
Well mate I own both and I can imagine it’s a hard choice but rest assured does not matter if you go p1000 or xp1’s you will be happy with either.
I love running my xp1’s especially now I got the haptics connected to them 🤩 the xp1’s are more adjustable that’s why I prefer using them but if the addons like hydraulics are important to you then p1000s are ones to go with 🤷🏼♂️
Sorry if I did not the choice easier 🫣
@@TheSimCircuit thanks mate! how did you be able to use haptics on simlab’s one please?
@@Super-Schopenhauer you buy a bracket to fit haptic shaker to pedals from Etsy (if you can’t find a bracket for xp1’s message me on Facebook I can possibly print one for you)
Then you will need the control box for haptic shaker and power supply I will link both bellow
shop.simagic.com/products/p2000-hcb
shop.simagic.com/products/simagic-hpb-bundle?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=059accb32&pr_rec_pid=9555040469295&pr_ref_pid=9369823936815&pr_seq=uniform
Hi, and wish you the best for your YT channel ! Keep going no matter what ppl saying... I was almost sure to buy the Simagic with the Haptic system = now these are better. Wondering = can we install haptic on these?
Haptics will be a diy job on these, not impossible but allot of work. If you want haptic feedback go with SiMagic. Watch my latest video about the p1000 the brakes are now fixed. Still not as accurate as what these pedals are but will now be ok for 99% of sim racers. If shakers are not a priority then go with the SimLab xp1 pedals.
Choices are getting much harder for us not like few years ago when choices were limited.
@@TheSimCircuit I really like the SimLab xp1 and I feel confident I can DIY haptics there. Nice start with your YT - looking solid and good work! Bravo and enjoy the journey! Soon 1k followers and in 1yr 10k +!
@@TheSimCircuit would you be interested in trying a new Tactile solution, please see my New Tactile 2024 thread at Race Department.
@@Mr_Latte_UK hi 👋🏼 I seen a thread regarding the exciter products is that what you are referring to?
Why yes! Yes they will! Lol
Also please keep in mind gt3 and gt4 cara do not have stiff brakes thats a false narrative that sim racing brands ran with. I own 2 and I run a bmw gt3 they have way more travel then most sim pedals do. Most real gt3 drivers will also tell you as gamer muscle and othera interviewed all said more travel then sim racing pedals have. It helps with modulation in a real car and trail braking. Its also why i run my pedals with mote travle like dan sazuka and others I know do. You wiuld be truely surprised how a real gt3 brake feels. Look up a video of a real gt3 brake being used it will blow your mind. This was just a sim brand saying something was realistic and other brqnda ran with it. Luckoly now we are getting much different pedals now truely realistic. Like the gt3 preset for simucube active pedals hsve more travek then you would expect it eas madr by a professional. That preset i mean. The p2000s out of the box is the closes ive felt to a real gt3 brake. Almost identical to my bmw.
I think simlabs out of the box are shockingly close also. Just not as good with the progressive feel. It should be very progresive and very easy to modulate
Best thing to do is go watch random callsigns video on debinking som pedals by pro racers.
You would absolutely love that video and its very informative about brake pedals and the false narrative made by sim brands when you hear just how much more travel real brakes have. Most sim pedals that are brick walls are more like f1 pedals.
Il go look for that video matey, I do think it’s great that there is option for stiff brake pedals on the market. I personally do prefer a harder brake pedal and find myself almost always fitting harder springs and elastomers than what is normally fitted onto pedals. I been using p500 last few weeks and have also gotten use to a softer pedals only fitted with springs and the p500 were very accurate.
This weekend at the expo I tried quite a few pedals but naturally just because I like harder brake I did enjoy using SRP pedals that were setup very hard and I was testing the new Invicta wheel for an hour plus on an all Asetek setup and love the Invicta pedals and I love my invictas lol 🤦🏼♂️ I think you are referring to Asetek when talking about making everyone believe you need a harder pedal right?
But anyway what I am trying to say badly is that brakes are so subjective what feels great for someone else does not for others 🤷🏼♂️ I would probably say that 9 out of 10 people don’t like hard brakes but I am definitely one of the ones that do 🤷🏼♂️ I will do my best going forward with new pedals I review to maybe make a scale of how stiff pedals are at their softest and hardest setup 😘
nice test ! according to you how short could be the brake course ? (in cm) thank you !
Sorry for late reply I will have a look for you and get back to you 👍🏻
Fun character and enjoyed this video, agree these look superb and ordered a 2 Pedal set instead of P1000
They are fantastic pedals & I got this stunning mount I 3d printed to fit the sim magic shaker on them also 🙌🏻
I have ordered the same but I am currently comparing 2 new exciters that have come out recently. I will combine whichever is best also with the HPR. This way its possible to have Simhub effects operate with much wider frequency range and for other effects too @@TheSimCircuit
Congratulations for your videos. ONE QUESTION, PLEASE: Between the Sim-Lab XP1 and the Simagic P1000 pedals, which is the best, according to your experience and your tests?
Thank you in advance.
If you are buying the standard P1000’s then I think Sim-Lab XP1 pedals are better. However if you upgrade the p1000 pedals then I think the p1000’s are slightly better but after upgrading the p1000’s they will cost allot more than the XP1 pedals.
I think out of the box the XP1 pedals offer allot for the money they can be adjusted to suit almost any sim racer but you can’t upgrade the XP1’s but I did get the SiMagic shakers to work on my XP1 pedals. Again this is a tough decision 😂🫣
@@TheSimCircuit Thanks a lot for your answer !!!😍😍😍
That's weird. The position readings are integer steps only. e.g. 78.0%, 79.0%, 80.0%.
I believe in iracing when calibrating that’s the case I’m going to have a look later and check telemetry data I will except these to be more accurate than increments of 1%
Would you prefer these over the Asetek Invicta pedals?
Personally I prefer these but only because the invictas you need to push with allot of power to be able to utilise the 2 stage braking, I have an injury in my left knee so the SimLabs more comfortable to me to use.
SimLabs very adjustable can feel like a real sports car or stiffened like a race car.
Asetek makes no excuses they are emulating real race cars so pedals very short travel & very stiff
Both amazing sets of pedals
How do they compare to the P1000’s hydraulic brake either haptics?
Obviously missing the haptic feedback allot as it is a game changer but these are more precise and accurate for sure even when compared to the p1000 PHYS hydraulic system. So if you are a professional sim racer I think that 5% difference in drop off might be something to consider but for the likes of 99% of simracers I would say the 5-8% drop off with the siMagic p1000 is acceptable. Also the SimLab pedals are not hydraulic 🤷🏼♂️ choices are getting harder in the Sim market 😊
@@TheSimCircuit interesting that they are slightly more precise. Thanks for the reply, your videos are hilarious, keep it up mate 😄
@@adambaker6510 thanks mate
@@TheSimCircuit i 3d printed mounts for rumble motors for throttle and brake. I use the lower clevis fork holes so they mount to the top ones and they work great! maybe someone can create a mount for the simagic haptic reactors?
@@biolite807I am 100% waiting on some sort of bracket to fit haptics on these. I have been running a shaker on my Invictas and Love it 😍
I assume that these pedals would not be suitable for a NLR Wheel Stand 2.0 (Still waiting on acquiring a real rig). Is that assumption correct?
I just had a look and I can’t see any problems with mounting them if that’s what you are worried about.
I would consider a good rig and pedals probably thee most important things when buying sim gear. Yes a direct drive base is nice but without a solid foundation it’s no good and as for pedals they are the one thing that can certainly make you faster and more consistent compared to other upgrades.
I would say if you are planning on buying both a set of pedals & a rig then go ahead and buy the pedals as it won’t be a money wasted cause when you do buy a rig you just gona slap them onto your new rig anyway 🙌🏻
Do you have a link to the 3D parts to print?
I will try and find the Facebook post but not sure if they were selling.
Would make my week if you found it! Great video
@@TheSimCircuit
Cant find, not sure if I confused with this post for SiMagic pedals but principal should be the same. Try contact someone that does 3D printing. Link I found 👇🏼
📸 Look at this post on Facebook facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10231406412962932&set=gm.1463839090845863&type=3&mibextid=WC7FNe
If I could keep subbing to get you to 1k I would bro
Me too, really like that dude
Thank you, its much appreciated. Will get there I’m sure 🙌🏻
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