Same here matey i have zero regrets I love mine and it will be satying on my rig for a long time to come. 100% it's not for everyone & more for those who already have everything 🤔
Great suggestion! Got the same and it's much more functional than this one for the price. Especially if you get the XL. I have a plus and an XL and honestly I have too many buttons. I'm looking for things to put on there. You can also have different profiles for each car, or sim etc.
@@jps072 ohh ok we are talking about the icons. Sorry was confused for a sec. Thanks I have them installed but I need to get around to putting it all together
@@danielnewmanracinglooking forward too it matey, I have seen what you done with the Precision Engineering one, it looks very impressive and definitely makes the product better 🙌🏼
Hey matey cheers, the link is just a link I make nothing from it. This was something I bought myself it was not sent my way. I seen this button box at the sim expo an really liked it 👍🏼
IRacing does not allow you to adjust FFB by button / macro. You can bind a button to set the auto FFB level but individual weaker/stronger is not possible in iRacing
Yea it's a pity it's something that be useful especially during longer sessions but not end of world scrolling through black box and making adjustments especially now using this button box 🤷🏼♂️
Surely a 15 button multi functional elgato stream deck with its endless pages would be a more productive and usable unit even if you just us it as a button box is the better and vastly cheaper option. I think you dropped the ball on this one my guy
No regrets matey it's absolutely beautiful, I own a stream deck but quality on this far superior, when using an elgato for multiple tasks and programs I can understand however on a dedicated sim rig I prefer this. I do get blinded easly by flashing lights 😆
@ price point is a bit extreme in comparison to the stream deck but what really counts is personal choice and if I could afford a standalone button box like this I would but our hobby is an expensive one and upgrade are regular and never cheap. For many of us it’s all about priorities. The stream deck does all this button box does and more with the ability to use illuminated button skins not stickers.
@@jps072 Yeah, stream deck does more and is more flexible. I think it looks just as good too. I get the appeal of this though. It looks good and has a single purpose.
@@jps072100% agree with you matey sim racing not cheap and this is the type of product you buy when you have it all already rig,dd great pedals. It's aimed at the high end market for guys who spend more than a thousand on multiple wheels ect... I have seen great stand alone button boxes by reaperware that cost about a €120 and they look amazing
This or the Precision Sim Engineering Pro Switch Panel, that's what I would like to know. Was about to pull the trigger on that and now gonna wait a bit longer. Great video regardless!
I had same delima also had to pick between them 2 but thought usb hub might be handy and buttons look a bit bigger on the Bavarian one unfortunately besides for touching a PSE at an expo i have not used one so can't give you a definitive answer sorry
@@SIMRIG412 I agree. I was 100% interested in this when he first unboxed it and the buttons were blank....until I saw the sticker sheets. I was so let down.
@@SIMRIG412 you correct. i made something very similar to this called the cwbb (cosworth button box) from velocitas imperium and it cost me $100 usd including 3dprinting the body.
I have a stram deck and yes it will do allot that this unit can't do but that works both ways. Best way i can describe it is, you can buy a SiMagic GT Neo and yes it does the job and is fantastic for the price but some people would spend 5 times that money on a GSI wheel that has similar or same functions 🤷🏼♂️ this button box definitely for the high end market and not for everyone.
Most of my buttons on my wheel are used already for other functions but to be honest it probably be best binding chat volume to wheel i will most likely end up using them buttons more often than the ones I have mapped 🤔
Everyone in the comments saying buy a stream deck…. Can anyone tell me what’s a good stream deck to use as a button box as I’ve been in the market for a button box, but dont want to spend $400 on some of these, and the cheaper ones just seem too big. Thanks
Literally just buy the Elgato Stream Deck MK2. It's a 3x5 button box with LCD display and customization for every button. You can have infinite number of pages of different buttons that can control anything and everything. This thing is an eye candy but the Stream Deck has way more usability and flexibility. I also race in VR so the aesthetics are a don't care. I bought a nice carbon-fiber looking frame for my stream deck and mounted it on my rig with that. It looks perfect and works awesome.
I have used a stream deck and for price it's great and can be used for a variety of programs not just racing. Get your self a logo/icon pack to make buttons look good and your set 😉
My first thought was "I'm going to buy this guy that wheel just to see if he cuts off his ball". I'm sure we can raise the money collectively to watch him lose his left ball or eat his words 🙂 Don't write checks you can't cash...
Love the form factor. But the price…sheesh. The fact for this price it makes use of stickers is a let down to me to be honest. I race and fly on my simrig and with stickers I’m bound to what I put on there to make sense. When a vendor would make such a button box like this with making use of buttons where you can set text and icons to dynamically like the channel strip labels used on a Behringer X32 mixing table for example (and then for this price)…. I would be sold
Using for flight and race I can understand you want different labels on buttons, this unit is mainly focused on simracing I don't believe Bavarian SimTec has anything to do with flight sims but who knows what can happen in the future 🤔
You name the price as 330 €? Well ridiculous enough "for some buttons on a box", but I followed the link to the currently "sold out" product and it is currently priced 395 €. That makes the price even more ridiculous.
Yea sold out for a wile, at that price it's definitely not for everyone but as seen with PSE button box people will buy if quality is high and it has flashy lights 😀
Is that $300+ for a bunch of buttons and a knob? LOL These sim racing companies are milking us, I'll stick to a wireless numpad with stickers... Or even elgato stream decks
Overpriced. Way overpriced... Yeah it's a niche product but seriously - for that money you could literally buy a streamdeck AND a whole decent multi channel audio controller like the hercules stream 100. That not only allows you to control the chat volume, it even comes with a nice control display, faders, monitoring, knobs, buttons... oh boy. And yes, that combo does a dozen times more at nearly the same footprint. There's nothing spectacular about the quality, design or construction. Honestly, what we're being "sold" here is just flavor - for everyone that likes to fiddle around with sticker sheets in 2025...
The fact you customize the button description with stickers is extremely disappointing. Who would be spending money on this when you can have a Streamdeck, which does the same thing, is cheaper and fully customizable in software, with layers and infinite amount of layouts for various sims or cars?
100% this is not for everyone, my stream deck has not seen much use and the changing icons and different pages is something I don't like. Stram deck crashes or changes pages during a race 🤷🏼♂️ I like the same button in the same place all the time 🤔
@@TheSimCircuit I've never had a streamdeck crash on anything, ever. I have two that I run at the same time. Run 3 pages with the page numbers on the pages for quick switching. An additional Streamdeck plus for volume etc (dials) and my cpu controls. Love the channel btw!
@@Romad_20been a long wile since using my stream deck I actually broke my mount and never bothered getting another one. But yea i had on few occasionsit freeze on me but it always was defaulting to main screen I later realised this was a setting I needed to change. I have the mk1 I'm sure over last few years software upgrades and the mk2 has made huge improvements I will mount mine again and use side by side for a wile 🤔
@@TheSimCircuit I'm going to upload a short here just for reference for my setup with the two stream decks th-cam.com/users/shortssIbbCzrj7PM?si=YPm4js0IK34fRhqY
I probably did a bad job filming it but I can confirm that in person it does not look or feel cheap far from. Yes it is very expensive for what it is but quality wise I have not come across better in a button box. Thanks for watching matey 🙌
Nice review. I own it too and its not build from plastic as other boxes. I love it and i dont regret buying it.
Same here matey i have zero regrets I love mine and it will be satying on my rig for a long time to come. 100% it's not for everyone & more for those who already have everything 🤔
I use a stream deck with overlays from Lovely Sim racing.
I need to try this i have LSR on my ddu but never used on stream deck
Overlays on the stream deck?
@ yes mate. Just look for the lovely sim racing button box overlays that n the elgato software
Great suggestion! Got the same and it's much more functional than this one for the price. Especially if you get the XL. I have a plus and an XL and honestly I have too many buttons. I'm looking for things to put on there. You can also have different profiles for each car, or sim etc.
@@jps072 ohh ok we are talking about the icons. Sorry was confused for a sec. Thanks I have them installed but I need to get around to putting it all together
Button boxes are an essential piece of my rig now 👌🏻
Yea 100% once you get used to using one you don't want to go without one. More importantly when is the DN profile ready? 🤔
@@TheSimCircuit we are just waiting for a unit for testing - as soon as one is available we are ready! :)
@@danielnewmanracinglooking forward too it matey, I have seen what you done with the Precision Engineering one, it looks very impressive and definitely makes the product better 🙌🏼
@ good things planned! :)
This looks so awesome
It is very nice but for price it should be 🙌🏼
Out of my budget at the moment, but this was a great review and I'll make sure to use your link when I eventually buy it
Hey matey cheers, the link is just a link I make nothing from it. This was something I bought myself it was not sent my way. I seen this button box at the sim expo an really liked it 👍🏼
Love the WTF Botton
Mee too and I actually wanted to use it but I know il be pushing it all the time even when it's clearly my fault lol
IRacing does not allow you to adjust FFB by button / macro. You can bind a button to set the auto FFB level but individual weaker/stronger is not possible in iRacing
Yea it's a pity it's something that be useful especially during longer sessions but not end of world scrolling through black box and making adjustments especially now using this button box 🤷🏼♂️
Surely a 15 button multi functional elgato stream deck with its endless pages would be a more productive and usable unit even if you just us it as a button box is the better and vastly cheaper option. I think you dropped the ball on this one my guy
No regrets matey it's absolutely beautiful, I own a stream deck but quality on this far superior, when using an elgato for multiple tasks and programs I can understand however on a dedicated sim rig I prefer this. I do get blinded easly by flashing lights 😆
@ price point is a bit extreme in comparison to the stream deck but what really counts is personal choice and if I could afford a standalone button box like this I would but our hobby is an expensive one and upgrade are regular and never cheap. For many of us it’s all about priorities. The stream deck does all this button box does and more with the ability to use illuminated button skins not stickers.
@@jps072 Yeah, stream deck does more and is more flexible. I think it looks just as good too. I get the appeal of this though. It looks good and has a single purpose.
@@jps072100% agree with you matey sim racing not cheap and this is the type of product you buy when you have it all already rig,dd great pedals. It's aimed at the high end market for guys who spend more than a thousand on multiple wheels ect... I have seen great stand alone button boxes by reaperware that cost about a €120 and they look amazing
This or the Precision Sim Engineering Pro Switch Panel, that's what I would like to know. Was about to pull the trigger on that and now gonna wait a bit longer. Great video regardless!
I had same delima also had to pick between them 2 but thought usb hub might be handy and buttons look a bit bigger on the Bavarian one unfortunately besides for touching a PSE at an expo i have not used one so can't give you a definitive answer sorry
Love you
Love you too matey 😘
Would a stream deck be better?
Yes. This is way over priced!
You can even use a USB numpad. Button boxes are like 95% aesthetics 5% practical advantage.
@@SIMRIG412 I agree. I was 100% interested in this when he first unboxed it and the buttons were blank....until I saw the sticker sheets. I was so let down.
@@SIMRIG412 you correct. i made something very similar to this called the cwbb (cosworth button box) from velocitas imperium and it cost me $100 usd including 3dprinting the body.
I have a stram deck and yes it will do allot that this unit can't do but that works both ways. Best way i can describe it is, you can buy a SiMagic GT Neo and yes it does the job and is fantastic for the price but some people would spend 5 times that money on a GSI wheel that has similar or same functions 🤷🏼♂️ this button box definitely for the high end market and not for everyone.
My chat volume is on my cube control wheel 🤷🏽♂️
Most of my buttons on my wheel are used already for other functions but to be honest it probably be best binding chat volume to wheel i will most likely end up using them buttons more often than the ones I have mapped 🤔
Everyone in the comments saying buy a stream deck…. Can anyone tell me what’s a good stream deck to use as a button box as I’ve been in the market for a button box, but dont want to spend $400 on some of these, and the cheaper ones just seem too big. Thanks
Literally just buy the Elgato Stream Deck MK2. It's a 3x5 button box with LCD display and customization for every button. You can have infinite number of pages of different buttons that can control anything and everything. This thing is an eye candy but the Stream Deck has way more usability and flexibility. I also race in VR so the aesthetics are a don't care. I bought a nice carbon-fiber looking frame for my stream deck and mounted it on my rig with that. It looks perfect and works awesome.
I have used a stream deck and for price it's great and can be used for a variety of programs not just racing. Get your self a logo/icon pack to make buttons look good and your set 😉
@@greg_takacs thanks brother. I’m going to look into it.. i appreciate it
@@TheSimCircuit thanks
Interesting...I made an LCD "Button Box" with SimHub an old tablet and some custom Icons I downloaded.
Not a bad shout I used to run my phone as a ddu and it worked very well 🙌🏼
Please send him a steering wheel :D Just for the giggles :D
Yes please 😆
My first thought was "I'm going to buy this guy that wheel just to see if he cuts off his ball". I'm sure we can raise the money collectively to watch him lose his left ball or eat his words 🙂 Don't write checks you can't cash...
@@greg_takacs all jokes aside even if you raise $100 000 i won't be choping anything, one of my great joys in life is chilling and cupping 😂
Love the form factor. But the price…sheesh.
The fact for this price it makes use of stickers is a let down to me to be honest.
I race and fly on my simrig and with stickers I’m bound to what I put on there to make sense.
When a vendor would make such a button box like this with making use of buttons where you can set text and icons to dynamically like the channel strip labels used on a Behringer X32 mixing table for example (and then for this price)…. I would be sold
Using for flight and race I can understand you want different labels on buttons, this unit is mainly focused on simracing I don't believe Bavarian SimTec has anything to do with flight sims but who knows what can happen in the future 🤔
You name the price as 330 €? Well ridiculous enough "for some buttons on a box", but I followed the link to the currently "sold out" product and it is currently priced 395 €. That makes the price even more ridiculous.
Yea sold out for a wile, at that price it's definitely not for everyone but as seen with PSE button box people will buy if quality is high and it has flashy lights 😀
The price is ridiculous. Just buy yourself a stream deck and call it a day
I alredy have a streamdeck 🤦🏻♂️
An stream-deck is cheaper and more configurable.
Is that $300+ for a bunch of buttons and a knob? LOL
These sim racing companies are milking us, I'll stick to a wireless numpad with stickers... Or even elgato stream decks
Not a numpad cmon now 😀 elgato we can work with 😅
Overpriced. Way overpriced...
Yeah it's a niche product but seriously - for that money you could literally buy a streamdeck AND a whole decent multi channel audio controller like the hercules stream 100.
That not only allows you to control the chat volume, it even comes with a nice control display, faders, monitoring, knobs, buttons... oh boy.
And yes, that combo does a dozen times more at nearly the same footprint.
There's nothing spectacular about the quality, design or construction. Honestly, what we're being "sold" here is just flavor - for everyone that likes to fiddle around with sticker sheets in 2025...
The fact you customize the button description with stickers is extremely disappointing. Who would be spending money on this when you can have a Streamdeck, which does the same thing, is cheaper and fully customizable in software, with layers and infinite amount of layouts for various sims or cars?
100% this is not for everyone, my stream deck has not seen much use and the changing icons and different pages is something I don't like. Stram deck crashes or changes pages during a race 🤷🏼♂️ I like the same button in the same place all the time 🤔
@@TheSimCircuit I've never had a streamdeck crash on anything, ever. I have two that I run at the same time. Run 3 pages with the page numbers on the pages for quick switching. An additional Streamdeck plus for volume etc (dials) and my cpu controls. Love the channel btw!
@@Romad_20been a long wile since using my stream deck I actually broke my mount and never bothered getting another one. But yea i had on few occasionsit freeze on me but it always was defaulting to main screen I later realised this was a setting I needed to change. I have the mk1 I'm sure over last few years software upgrades and the mk2 has made huge improvements I will mount mine again and use side by side for a wile 🤔
@@TheSimCircuit I'm going to upload a short here just for reference for my setup with the two stream decks
th-cam.com/users/shortssIbbCzrj7PM?si=YPm4js0IK34fRhqY
The encoders are an advantage for sure. But yeah stream deck is cheaper
This looks way too cheap and plastic for the price.
I probably did a bad job filming it but I can confirm that in person it does not look or feel cheap far from. Yes it is very expensive for what it is but quality wise I have not come across better in a button box. Thanks for watching matey 🙌
@ fair enough, thanks!
1min in ........330€ ........i´m out
Definitely not for everyone agreed 🫠
330 anything for a button box is dumber than a bag of....well button boxes, just get a Xbox pad and sellotape it to your rig #simfact
Lots of dumb bags out there matey 🙄 these are sold out but guilty as charged 😬