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Excellent work as always. Apple needs to run the pro machines. This test with an entry level seems like a rute thinkg to o the the machines, but they are performing. Are you going to do one with Capture one, lightroom Pixelmator etc?
Hey Max, you know what would be interesting? Connecting those Macs to the 6K XDR display (and normal 4K ones too maybe). It is my understanding according to some tweets that the display pipeline has been revamped and connecting an external monitor is close to instant and changing resolutions (default, scaled and others) is “don’t blink” fast.
Hey man I appreciate all the hard work. You’re absolutely correct people don’t realize how much work it takes to put out a 10 minute TH-cam video. I have a super small channel and I don’t do technical reviews like yours and each 10 minute video can take me about 10 hours
@@RylisPro haha... we all have been there. It will come with time... I took a 5 sec peek at your channel... one feedback I have is around your thumbnails. Make them more simple and easy to read and pop... when someone scrolling the results really fast, you wanna make them stop. Good luck brother
I got my M1 MacBook Pro today and I'm still here watching videos on it, I came from a air 2019 and its night and day , TH-cam in 4K is smooth , buttery smooth! Keep up the videos love it!
@@kevin.callens I just hope that someday we can go back more towards the $499 price point at which the first Mac mini started. I know there is inflation, but even the base iPad has become cheaper over time, despite inflation. If the mini were $599 with the base model in 2022, I would be happier, and even more people would be able to buy one. But with the performance you get with the M1, I guess Apple needs to first introduce the M1X and M2, or else an even cheaper mini M1 would be too much value for the money, right? Can't have that! Haha! But I do think Apple really needs to flood the market with M processor Macs that have more value than Intel Macs could ever offer. Heck, HomePod mini starts at $99, so Apple could move slightly more towards value.
@@51Drones omg I had to search that up and that is an ancient machine 😂 this will be my first MacBook so I’m hoping to get the M1 mba, Max’s videos have been really helpful for making my decision!!
Apple silicon is BEYOND a One more thing announcement It’s a whole another league
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I still don't believe how this channel didn't hit 1M subs!!!! Max, appreciate your efforts on delivering great content! Keep up the great work! Regards from Brazil!
Hi Max! The biggest question is "8GB vs 16GB in FCPX for 4K editing". I've seen another TH-camr test 8GB M1 Mac with a 20 minute project in FCPX and he ran into "Application has ran out of memory" problem on an 8GB model which made me worried about getting an 8GB. But... it is $200 more which could be spent on a larger SSD. So, decisions decisions=) I am looking forward to more tests from you and hopefully that will help me choose the right config. Thanks for the content
Thank you so much for this! Learned a lot. I am seeing a pattern. 1. M1s strength seems to be H265, as long as your editing an H265 footage at ANY resolution and exporting it at H265 it will beat everything. 2. The ram may improve the graphics performance too since its a UNIFIED MEMORY, with 16GB RAM, that might leave 10GB Memory for the GPU and it might help push these RAW formats forward.
Great video. What an amazing 1st gen Chip from Apple. Max, my 2019 MacPro with the 16 core, and the same video card as yours, plays the R5 10bit footage perfectly smoothly. Timeline skimming is also super smooth. No render, or transcoding needed. I can even add luts and color grade and no problem. On Resolve, it does slightly stutter while skimming, but timeline playback is perfectly smooth. Wonder if the 16 core has some other advantage. Not sure though
The problems lies in CPU encoding/decoding processes on hardware level. If required hardware codes are missing than there's only one chance how to playback such type of file smoothly: as much as possible cores in CPU.
Well, as an R5 owner I don’t think I really need to wait for 16” MBP. 8K playback is good enough for me as I will be shooting sparingly with that resolution. If it can handle the 4K120p 1800mbps HEVC from the R5 with correction and a LUT...that is amazing for the price.
Well, in pure performance AMD still trounces Apple. The M1 is good, but it's meant for power savings. When next year the M1X or M2 comes out, Apple might come on top of AMD, as Apple will add more high performance cores. Although in performance per Watt, AMD will still not come close to Apple -- M1 uses 15 W max and comes close to the best AMD at 30 W. All in all, goodbye Intel. It's really strange that AMD is used so little in computers.
@@genx-tv as far as laptop, I only get Intel because of eGPU support, there are no AMD laptop with thunderbolt 3! Maybe next year we'll see AMD laptops with USB 4 and eGPU from that port. But when I'll build a new PC tower, I'll get AMD for sure.
Hi!! I am looking forward to buying an Apple Macbook Pro 13" but I am confused about what specs do I go for. I want to use it for some GPU based coding of data science and some 4K editing too... Professionally I am a teacher and do a bit of filmmaking for youtube videos as a hobby... I am from India and economically speaking if a buy a laptop now, I can upgrade it only after another 10 yrs maybe. So please suggest should I go for the M1 processor (16GB RAM, 512GB SSD) or the Intel i5 (16GB RAM, 512GB SSD)? Will 512GB SSD be sufficient or should I go for 1 TB? Looking forward to your guidance.
21:41 yes and no. Virtualization and emulation are not interchangeable words. Emulation is completely running the app on the ‘software’, while virtualization is translating the code for the chip to understand it better. So, while it ISN’t using the CPU to its full potential, it IS using those dedicated hardware blocks for video encoding/decoding.
And objectively, these current M1 chips are the slowest apple mac silicon... So excited for the 16” now. I was skeptical about the transition but now i’m excited
@@mastrorj68 Personally, and i could be wrong but I’d say next year. i’m gonna hold off until the 16” has apple silicon for my photo/video workflow. For now my computer can handle 40-50mb raw files pretty okay
@@gabrieldalcomune3044 yeah that sounds likely to happen. I'm currently running an i7 32gb Mac mini. It handled my Sony r3 files pretty good. Honestly it could also Be better. But since it's also right now I'd rather wait till the come out with the higher ones.
It would have been great to see the 8gb model compared to 16gb model. The GPU could have been capped by the memory swapping as all memory is shared between GPU and CPU.
Yup! The 16GB models shipped later than the 8GB but I'll definitely be testing that one since I think most people serious about video editing will spend the extra for the 16GB.
I can't believe this performance on the 8Gb model. I just bought the 16gb RAM M1 Mac Mini, and this video has sufficiently pumped me up for the delivery!
I'm very confused by all of this LOL I'm a Mac mini user for years and I have the i7 32 gig option. It seems like we're not going to need more than 16 gigs of RAM? I work with really big raw files for my photography and this is really blowing my mind. I can't decide if I want to buy the computer you just bought or if I should wait it out to see if something even better for not much more money comes out that I should buy. That's what's driving me crazy about this whole thing
@@mastrorj68 Yeah, I think if you have a really good setup and you do pro work, it can go either way. I’m trying to do photo/video work on a 2012 iMac right now, so it’s a no-brainer for me 😂
Thank you Max for this video! The real world usage you detailed throughout the video was awesome- I think for many of us Macbook Pro users the most demanding thing we do is video editing, and seeing it in such a visual way really took my breath away.... seen a lot of people's benchmarks and gone, cool, that's fast, but seeing you scrub over 4k video with LUTS with it being buttery smooth really blew me away
Max, fantastic video! Best Apple M1 review video on TH-cam. Thank you! You not only show where it excels (and surprises) but you also show its limitations and direct comparisons to Intel Macs to give a great reference. I really appreciate the work you put into these videos. It is very evident in the quality and depth of the info you provide and your passion for this stands head and shoulders above the rest. Again, thank you!
I can only imagine what will happen when they redo the pro lineup.... I expect great things from Apple now. They're killing it with the M1 (which is a first generation entry level. It's just breaking my brain).
You know it hurts my brain is that people spent all this money on the Mac pro and then Apple knowingly was going to do this and it makes me think about two things. Are they going to come out with something for the pro line next or are they going to wait a while because it's going to take time and development? It's almost like why refresh the Mac pro and do all these things with it knowing you're going to have the m processors coming out soon. Are there m2 and m3 processors in the works I don't know but I'm assuming so. But how long is that going to take?
that performance is sick. how hot does the m1 chip get during heavy workload though? would be a shame if after one year of editing raw footage the m1 notebooks would die of heatdamage o.0?
When testing Davinci - did you use 17.1? DaVinci Resolve 17.1 Beta 1 which adds universal app support for Macs running the new high performance Apple M1 processors to provide better performance on small form laptops. Also test Fusion stuff :)
This was so helpful! So even though the 2020 M1 13" MacBook Pro maxes out at 16GB RAM, it's still capable of processing high-res video better and faster than a fully stocked Mac Pro? The RAM has been my biggest concern with the MBP. How do you think the new MBP would do with 4K multi-cam shots for music videos?
Typing this from the m1 pro. Haven't had a chance to really use it much but it feels like it's one of those obedient dogs that are calm as can be, but just waiting to be cut loose and do what it needs to. The battery estimate is insane...72% and still showing 20 hours left (I think it maxes out at showing 20 hours as estimate so its actually more than that) while watching TH-cam videos, downloading the whole GarageBand library of sounds, etc at the same time. And the body is cold as can be, no warmth at all.
I like Linus but I think his confirmation bias has been on full display lately since Apple has released the M1 and IMO it’s turning viewers away. The dude complained the new Macs didn’t have touch screen 🤦♂️
@@Tackleqb tbh the Touch Bar is possibly the most stupid thing ever lol just make the screen touchscreen or not. It’s like they don’t want to admit that the MacBook is getting into iPad territory. Will probably eat into iPad sales
He was excited when AMD came out with the powerful chips, but when Apple did, he didn’t take time to appreciate the engineering. That’s what it did for me. Apple do things Apple way, Intel do Intel way, but advance in technology is undeniable.
Plus Linus regularly gets sponsored by Intel and regularly says how great AMD and Nvidia are, plus he has always been in the build your own PC camp, so someone like Linus may have bias because he is sponsored by the competition and he is not the type of person who would use these Macs.
I just got the M1 mac, they only had it in one city in my 200-mile radius. It is a fantastic device, the speed and the thermals alone makes it worth it. You can actually use this laptop, on your lap.
Thank you Max! Looking forward to taking delivery of my M1 MBP next week. I'm currently using a 2015 13" base model MBP and I'm really impressed how it handles 4K A7III footage in FCP. 4K iPhone footage brings it to its knees though lol.
2015 13" iPhone 4k brings down to knees only due to missing CPU hardware codes of HEVC aka h.265. The same gonna happen with M1 when new codec will be introduced h.266
Hi max, I cannot find any info on this Bruce X app.. Do you have a link? Also, are there any other simple apps to check how my computer is handling? I notice my fans kick on when I'm booting up my machine and I'm not sure why or maybe if something is running in the background at startup triggering this. I have the latest MacBook Pro 16 maxed out.
I'd love to see a video on 8GB vs 16GB for non-Pro workflows. Things like many Safari tabs, a Zoom call going on, Spotify playing, maybe a few Google Docs tabs editing files, a powerpoint file or large textbook PDF file open. 9to5Mac had a good article on the 8GB of RAM models. Seems like even if it has to go into swap memory it's still pretty quick.
Love your channel! Quick question - does the M1 mini stand up to M1 Macbook Pro as far as editing? Do you recommend the Mini vs Macbook - despite obvious lack of mobility etc. etc. Considering the cost... Follow up - how do both perform with adobe after effects.
Thanks for this Max! I just spent an HOUR on the phone with Apple trying to get answers about the speed of the M1 chip with video editing and they told me to Google bc they did not know. This is super helpful! Is the full comparison video out yet?
I own a 15 Inch early 2013 Macbook Pro. Definitely thinking about upgrading it to a 13 Macbook Pro. Still not sure to stick with 8GB and get a 1 TB Hard drive or Upgrade to 16GB and stick with a 512 or both. Great video!
No other channel does this comprehensive performance testing/comparisons. Every time apple releases hardware, I come to this channel to check how it performs.
So I LITERALLY just bought the 2020 27” iMac because I wasn’t sure how my workflow (mostly audio with AU plugins, and also FCP) would transition. Should I return this thing? It seems to work great, but I also don’t know HOW LONG until a new iMac/MBP 16” comes out. Also what do you guys think about retail value on new Intel macs?
Tough position, I have a the same one since a couple of months ago, 64GB and 5700XT GPU, the bad part is that you can’t get that amount of RAM yet. Nothing wrong with it, super happy, it flies, but for sure for tiny daily tasks that don’t require big amounts of RAM that M1 is smoking it. I don’t think I would trade the iMac honestly, not for several years... but you know what? The MBA M1 16GB would be a great companion co-desktop.
I’m in the exact same position as you and I just started the return process and ordered the 13” Pro. With a 14-day return period it gives you plenty of time to run tests for your own use cases to see which would perform better! I had an 8-core, 5700 XT + self-upgraded 64GB of RAM. From what I’m seeing here as a videographer who works with primarily 4K 10-bit 422, the 13” would be faster! Which is crazy to say
I’m trying to decide if the pro is worth the extra 300 bucks over the air. Could you do a comparison between them to help people decide? Especially for those who use it for occasional use + occasional photo and video editing.
great review.. do you think with all the updates that Apple might support the new Radeon 6000 cards inside an eGPU enclosure or should I just bung in my 5700xt? Only I might ditch my old windows pc since I'm hardly using it now. (Threadripper 2950x, 64gb ram, 5700xt,) Your advice is always great. I did eventually learn to use FCPx over the summer for my own personal use now, as well as keep using Media Composer (work use only now)
I think the problem with 8k footage is 8Gb unify memory. In this case, RAM is actually a memory of GPU. If you will compare 16GB RAM MacBook Pro, I think it can handle 8K as well.
@@gelobeast272 Not very rich, but you can buy a MBA on Black Friday, then sell it used. The lowest end model won't depreciate that much in value after taking into consideration the Black Friday savings. We don't know when the MBP 16 will launch. If it launches in February, then it's probably not worth it. If the MBP 16 launches in August I would be willing to spend a few hundred bucks to have a MBA in the mean time.
I watched the video but don't really understand a lot of the jargon! Quick question, would an M1 Macbook pro be good for viewing 4k footage from my drone and also powerful enough to do some basic video editing?
You cannot upgrade memory. The way I see it, having 16GB RAM will be useful for heavy workloads and future proof - whereas, if you run out of storage, you can add external storage via the more expensive but faster Thunderbolt, or the slower but adequate for most uses USB-C.
Just imagine 16” MBP with Apple Silicon and Apple discrete graphic and iMac with desktop version Apple Silicon. Holy shit! I still can’t believe it’s happening.
Max, can you please tell me if you think the RAM upgrade is worth the cost and if it is worth the cost, in what types of scenarios it would be beneficial. Thanks.
You are testing with 8K and 6K and saying this machine is great. And this makes me sooo Happy cause iam shooting at 1080p and the editing would be a heaven for me. Cant wait to get this on my hands❤❤❤
A lot of people are talking about how much they’re looking forward to the higher end models with discrete graphics... but I wonder if that’s missing the point of Apple’s SoCs. The fact that the graphics are integrated into the same chip as the CPU, along with the RAM tied to both of them... that’s where these massive performance gains are coming from. The tight, physical integration and sharing of memory is what’s allowing them to smoke other systems.
I don't think that is what they mean.....What they mean is more powerful apple silicon chips......Like the Apple M2 for the Macbook Pro 16 being released next year (2021) with a 50-60W TDP compared to the 10-15W M1, that thing will be a beast.....Easily besting most high end gaming laptops with 230-330W Power bricks...while the Macbook Pro 16 will have a 96W Adapter.......apple always said their goal was desktop performance, with mobile soc power. Can't wait.
I’m sure a lot of people mean what you’re talking about, and I agree with that sentiment completely. But I’m seeing quite a few comments on these types of videos with people specifically mentioning discrete graphics. It’s those comments I’m referring to.
Yeah, I can see how Apple might forego discrete graphics in the thermally constrained devices, like laptops and iMacs. They can make whatever SoC they want for these, a unified chip with 8 graphic cores like they have now, but they can add cpu and graphics cores for the 16 inch MacBook Pros or iMacs. These machines might have 10 cpu cores and 12 gpu cores--whatever Apple wants they can do.
Hey Max! Any chance you could drop the Canon 10 Bit 422 project file from the 8:18 timeslot on a shared drive so that we could test that export out on our own Macs? I have a 2018 Mac Mini with 32GB of ram and a 8GB external GPU and would love to see the export time on it with that project.
*Where is the extra 2-3w of power in the MacBook pro's M1 going to, over the air's M1 because they both have the same single core and multicore peak performance. Is it the gpu? Does the gpu run at a higher clock?*
Thank you for these wonderful reviews! I'm still debating between the M1 air and the M1 pro. I really want to get into photo editing/video editing/music production but I'm a student and I'm having a tough time justifying spending the extra money on the pro. (plus I just love the rose gold air color) Would you recommend the pro or would the air satisfy my needs?
Azizi, it’s a tough call. I’d say figure out a way to purchase both and keep a sharp eye on how many days you have to bring one of them back. I think Apple has extended the time they allow for returns right now and I noticed that Best Buy has done the same (check their website though). Or, buy the Air... test it like crazy. Then keep it or exchange it.
@@azizicuddles9091 I think the only thing to be disappointed about with the M1 Macs is the wait for non-Apple software to be Universal and to be stable. I have the developer Mac mini which by comparison to what Apple just released is way underpowered, but it plays World of Warcraft fluidly at the maximum graphics settings. However, even though version 9.0.2 is Apple Silicon native, I'm experiencing frequent crashes. Hopefully, the bugs get worked out sooner rather than later. Final Pro X, Compressor, Logic run astoundingly well (both the Intel version and the now up-to-date Universal). Creative Cloud Desktop (now Universal), Premiere Pro (Intel) and Media Encoder (Intel) all run really well. Photoshop's beta will run, but not every feature works. Illustrator, After Effects and InDesign all crash (and are currently all Intel). Report back on what you get and how you like it!
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Excellent work as always. Apple needs to run the pro machines. This test with an entry level seems like a rute thinkg to o the the machines, but they are performing. Are you going to do one with Capture one, lightroom Pixelmator etc?
lease test dji 4k60 drone footage on both m1
no more proxy!!!!!!!!!
Hey Max, you know what would be interesting? Connecting those Macs to the 6K XDR display (and normal 4K ones too maybe). It is my understanding according to some tweets that the display pipeline has been revamped and connecting an external monitor is close to instant and changing resolutions (default, scaled and others) is “don’t blink” fast.
Where can I buy the shirt/sweatshirt? Sorry I know it’s not computer related.
Man, your coverage on the new M1 is by far the best on TH-cam. Thanks a lot for all your content! :D
Hey man I appreciate all the hard work. You’re absolutely correct people don’t realize how much work it takes to put out a 10 minute TH-cam video. I have a super small channel and I don’t do technical reviews like yours and each 10 minute video can take me about 10 hours
I'm a Smöl techtuber too and it takes 6h to make something kinda okay for me too.
Hear hear.
My sentiments exactly! @EnforcerMan if your channel is small, then mine's is atomic haha!
@@RylisPro haha... we all have been there. It will come with time... I took a 5 sec peek at your channel... one feedback I have is around your thumbnails. Make them more simple and easy to read and pop... when someone scrolling the results really fast, you wanna make them stop. Good luck brother
@@EnforcerMan ok cool thanks!
I'm so ready for the 16" Apple Silicon MBP!
Think there's going to be more available ram? Has anyone tested after effects?
This is what I'm waiting for!
You gonna have to wait a year or more for that.
@@bushgreen260 Sad but true, hopefully proper adobe support by then.
Me too!!! Can they please come out with it now
The moment i saw 10bit 422 run smothly! Im sold!
Mindblowing🤯🤯
I got my M1 MacBook Pro today and I'm still here watching videos on it, I came from a air 2019 and its night and day , TH-cam in 4K is smooth , buttery smooth! Keep up the videos love it!
I'll be coming from the Air 2015, so I'm sure that would be light-years of a difference lol.
Last time I was this early Intel had the fastest processors.
@@applesilicon6863 😂😂😂
@@applesilicon6863 hope you're gonna get better in future and a bit less pricey too.
@@kevin.callens I just hope that someday we can go back more towards the $499 price point at which the first Mac mini started. I know there is inflation, but even the base iPad has become cheaper over time, despite inflation. If the mini were $599 with the base model in 2022, I would be happier, and even more people would be able to buy one. But with the performance you get with the M1, I guess Apple needs to first introduce the M1X and M2, or else an even cheaper mini M1 would be too much value for the money, right? Can't have that! Haha! But I do think Apple really needs to flood the market with M processor Macs that have more value than Intel Macs could ever offer. Heck, HomePod mini starts at $99, so Apple could move slightly more towards value.
Thanks for this Max. I’ve been driving myself mad trying to decide which route to go!
Have you decided yet?😄
@@kpoptimes5826 No! LOL. So hard to switch, especially as my last Mac was. . . ready for it? . . the Macintosh Classic II!
@@51Drones omg I had to search that up and that is an ancient machine 😂 this will be my first MacBook so I’m hoping to get the M1 mba, Max’s videos have been really helpful for making my decision!!
@@kpoptimes5826 Thanks! We just shot a comparison between the M1 MBA and MBP on the Max Tech channel and will edit and post it on saturday!
@@MaksimYuryev that’s perfect thank you sm!! Already subscribed🤩
Apple silicon is BEYOND a
One more thing announcement
It’s a whole another league
I still don't believe how this channel didn't hit 1M subs!!!! Max, appreciate your efforts on delivering great content! Keep up the great work! Regards from Brazil!
Hi Max! The biggest question is "8GB vs 16GB in FCPX for 4K editing". I've seen another TH-camr test 8GB M1 Mac with a 20 minute project in FCPX and he ran into "Application has ran out of memory" problem on an 8GB model which made me worried about getting an 8GB. But... it is $200 more which could be spent on a larger SSD. So, decisions decisions=) I am looking forward to more tests from you and hopefully that will help me choose the right config. Thanks for the content
Thank you so much for this! Learned a lot. I am seeing a pattern. 1. M1s strength seems to be H265, as long as your editing an H265 footage at ANY resolution and exporting it at H265 it will beat everything. 2. The ram may improve the graphics performance too since its a UNIFIED MEMORY, with 16GB RAM, that might leave 10GB Memory for the GPU and it might help push these RAW formats forward.
That sounds pretty logical yeah
Great video. What an amazing 1st gen Chip from Apple. Max, my 2019 MacPro with the 16 core, and the same video card as yours, plays the R5 10bit footage perfectly smoothly. Timeline skimming is also super smooth. No render, or transcoding needed. I can even add luts and color grade and no problem. On Resolve, it does slightly stutter while skimming, but timeline playback is perfectly smooth. Wonder if the 16 core has some other advantage. Not sure though
The problems lies in CPU encoding/decoding processes on hardware level. If required hardware codes are missing than there's only one chance how to playback such type of file smoothly: as much as possible cores in CPU.
Two minute silence for those who recently purchased the *intel MacBook.*
That was me. I’ve just sold my 2020 intel i5 13 quickly before everyone realises and bought the pro M1
Luckily Best Buy took too long and didn't get me the 16" I ordered Oct 26th, I canceled and just ordered the 13 M1, and saved almost $2k
@@moxeman I feel that. I just recommended the 16” MBP to 2 different creatives about a month before the Silicon Macs dropped. Now I feel bad. 😅
None of them should be more expensive than the base Mac air now. It's not worth it now nor definitely the future.
@@benjamin7114 Amazing a machine that can handle video creation like a pro is now under $1K. What a game changer for everyone.
Well, as an R5 owner I don’t think I really need to wait for 16” MBP. 8K playback is good enough for me as I will be shooting sparingly with that resolution. If it can handle the 4K120p 1800mbps HEVC from the R5 with correction and a LUT...that is amazing for the price.
So can’t wait for iMAC Pro version of the M1!
Hoping for a micro atx form factor, with ssd bays.
That would be slower than the 2017 iMac Pro, just wait for faster M chips specialy the GPU (btw I have a 10 core 64 GB Vega 64)
It probably won't run an M1 per se.
Before 2015: Intel > AMD > Apple
Now in 2020: Apple > AMD > Intel.
This year is crazy!
Well, in pure performance AMD still trounces Apple. The M1 is good, but it's meant for power savings. When next year the M1X or M2 comes out, Apple might come on top of AMD, as Apple will add more high performance cores. Although in performance per Watt, AMD will still not come close to Apple -- M1 uses 15 W max and comes close to the best AMD at 30 W. All in all, goodbye Intel. It's really strange that AMD is used so little in computers.
@@genx-tv as far as laptop, I only get Intel because of eGPU support, there are no AMD laptop with thunderbolt 3! Maybe next year we'll see AMD laptops with USB 4 and eGPU from that port. But when I'll build a new PC tower, I'll get AMD for sure.
Am I the only one who never heard about AMD? 😂
Mmmm... surely you're not counting the 1990s and early 2000s. For content creation, it was UNIX and MacOS.
@@СашаЛобанов-я8в Yes
Hi!! I am looking forward to buying an Apple Macbook Pro 13" but I am confused about what specs do I go for. I want to use it for some GPU based coding of data science and some 4K editing too... Professionally I am a teacher and do a bit of filmmaking for youtube videos as a hobby... I am from India and economically speaking if a buy a laptop now, I can upgrade it only after another 10 yrs maybe. So please suggest should I go for the M1 processor (16GB RAM, 512GB SSD) or the Intel i5 (16GB RAM, 512GB SSD)? Will 512GB SSD be sufficient or should I go for 1 TB? Looking forward to your guidance.
10:18 That moment when Max realises his Mac Pro will be going up on eBay this afternoon. The Mac Pro's *video card* cost more than the MBP.
And this will be the slowest silicon mac ever made 😂
Maaaan. Just when I was set on buying the Air you drop this 😂 I really appreciate how much effort you’re putting into these! Keep it up
What about people who use iMovie and GarageBand? Which M1 is best for that?
21:41 yes and no. Virtualization and emulation are not interchangeable words. Emulation is completely running the app on the ‘software’, while virtualization is translating the code for the chip to understand it better. So, while it ISN’t using the CPU to its full potential, it IS using those dedicated hardware blocks for video encoding/decoding.
thanks for this. What is the program you run allowing your to view the GPU, CPU and temperature in the display menu bar?
*my thoughts: final cut pro is amazing.*
*love that software.*
Thanks for these videos Max! So time consuming but super worth it for all of us💪🏼
And objectively, these current M1 chips are the slowest apple mac silicon... So excited for the 16” now. I was skeptical about the transition but now i’m excited
Trying to figure out when they come out with the m2s for the 16-in and possibly imac?
@@mastrorj68 Personally, and i could be wrong but I’d say next year. i’m gonna hold off until the 16” has apple silicon for my photo/video workflow. For now my computer can handle 40-50mb raw files pretty okay
@@gabrieldalcomune3044 yeah that sounds likely to happen. I'm currently running an i7 32gb Mac mini. It handled my Sony r3 files pretty good. Honestly it could also Be better. But since it's also right now I'd rather wait till the come out with the higher ones.
It would have been great to see the 8gb model compared to 16gb model. The GPU could have been capped by the memory swapping as all memory is shared between GPU and CPU.
Yup! The 16GB models shipped later than the 8GB but I'll definitely be testing that one since I think most people serious about video editing will spend the extra for the 16GB.
@@MaksimYuryev thanks for your great reviews! Waiting to see if the 16gb will do 6k Braw before I pull the trigger.
@@MaksimYuryev please test the performance of Fusion in DaVince resolve studio. your thoughts will be greatly appreciated.:-)
I can't believe this performance on the 8Gb model. I just bought the 16gb RAM M1 Mac Mini, and this video has sufficiently pumped me up for the delivery!
Awesome 🤩👨💻👨💻
I'm very confused by all of this LOL I'm a Mac mini user for years and I have the i7 32 gig option. It seems like we're not going to need more than 16 gigs of RAM? I work with really big raw files for my photography and this is really blowing my mind. I can't decide if I want to buy the computer you just bought or if I should wait it out to see if something even better for not much more money comes out that I should buy. That's what's driving me crazy about this whole thing
@@mastrorj68 Yeah, I think if you have a really good setup and you do pro work, it can go either way. I’m trying to do photo/video work on a 2012 iMac right now, so it’s a no-brainer for me 😂
Any chance you will remake this video for a 14 inch 24 core M1 Max?
Thank you Max for this video! The real world usage you detailed throughout the video was awesome- I think for many of us Macbook Pro users the most demanding thing we do is video editing, and seeing it in such a visual way really took my breath away.... seen a lot of people's benchmarks and gone, cool, that's fast, but seeing you scrub over 4k video with LUTS with it being buttery smooth really blew me away
Thanks for your videos! Can you do a video with the new mac mini?
Max, fantastic video! Best Apple M1 review video on TH-cam. Thank you! You not only show where it excels (and surprises) but you also show its limitations and direct comparisons to Intel Macs to give a great reference. I really appreciate the work you put into these videos. It is very evident in the quality and depth of the info you provide and your passion for this stands head and shoulders above the rest. Again, thank you!
I can only imagine what will happen when they redo the pro lineup.... I expect great things from Apple now. They're killing it with the M1 (which is a first generation entry level. It's just breaking my brain).
You know it hurts my brain is that people spent all this money on the Mac pro and then Apple knowingly was going to do this and it makes me think about two things. Are they going to come out with something for the pro line next or are they going to wait a while because it's going to take time and development? It's almost like why refresh the Mac pro and do all these things with it knowing you're going to have the m processors coming out soon. Are there m2 and m3 processors in the works I don't know but I'm assuming so. But how long is that going to take?
that performance is sick. how hot does the m1 chip get during heavy workload though? would be a shame if after one year of editing raw footage the m1 notebooks would die of heatdamage o.0?
That’s the million dollar question with the air, the pro comes with a fan so there shouldn’t be an issue with it.
Got my new Mac Mini M1 and I love it! It’s a whole new era. Computing has changed forever.
what are your findings .. do you use davinci resolve... how is the performance in fusion? thanks
When testing Davinci - did you use 17.1? DaVinci Resolve 17.1 Beta 1 which adds universal app support for Macs running the new high performance Apple M1 processors to provide better performance on small form laptops. Also test Fusion stuff :)
Is the MacBook Pro m1 with 16gb ram and 512ssd is fine for video editing?
Really impressed how much technical details you go into. Most other reviewers don’t go into such details
Just wanted to thank you guys for your hard work on these informative videos!
We've been working our butts off. So tired lol.
@@MaksimYuryev you’re appreciated!
You guys should try to use the MacBook Pro with M1 to render your next video, since it will be a even more realistic, longer test.
Max, thanks again! You are always so detail with the reviews.
Its Been 6/7 Months since you've uploaded this video.. Has Adobe Premiere pro optimised for M1 or Whats the Status Now..??
Found out?
@@FrancoisDressler Nope..
@@ManojFT. Looks like its better: th-cam.com/video/OTzRBNIhBXU/w-d-xo.html
YASSS! The video I've been waiting for! Thanks Max!
This was so helpful! So even though the 2020 M1 13" MacBook Pro maxes out at 16GB RAM, it's still capable of processing high-res video better and faster than a fully stocked Mac Pro? The RAM has been my biggest concern with the MBP. How do you think the new MBP would do with 4K multi-cam shots for music videos?
Are you going to compare with the new iMac 2020?
Where do that numbers come from ? can you show the screen time counter of that workloads in a video?
Why even testing any footage above 480p with 8gb ram?!
as I've commented before... everyone edits FCPX on an external ssd... maybe you should try that for a real world test.
Thanks max! Would love to hear your thoughts of this vs the current 16” MacBook Pro. Especially for fcp
Coming soon!
That’s what I’m waiting for. Seriously thinking of selling my 16” to get this (and before the 16” m1 comes and totally devalues my current one)
This is exactly what i want to see as well probably gonna hurt to see it though
Typing this from the m1 pro. Haven't had a chance to really use it much but it feels like it's one of those obedient dogs that are calm as can be, but just waiting to be cut loose and do what it needs to. The battery estimate is insane...72% and still showing 20 hours left (I think it maxes out at showing 20 hours as estimate so its actually more than that) while watching TH-cam videos, downloading the whole GarageBand library of sounds, etc at the same time. And the body is cold as can be, no warmth at all.
Oh man...the more you test the new Apple Silicon Macs the less the chance you'll find a buyer for your $15k Mac Pro. Thank you for your sacrifice.😉
Macs are officially overpowered iPads (and in the BESTEST ways possible, not in ways that Linus means it lol)
I like Linus but I think his confirmation bias has been on full display lately since Apple has released the M1 and IMO it’s turning viewers away. The dude complained the new Macs didn’t have touch screen 🤦♂️
@@Tackleqb tbh the Touch Bar is possibly the most stupid thing ever lol just make the screen touchscreen or not. It’s like they don’t want to admit that the MacBook is getting into iPad territory. Will probably eat into iPad sales
You are goddamn right.
He was excited when AMD came out with the powerful chips, but when Apple did, he didn’t take time to appreciate the engineering. That’s what it did for me. Apple do things Apple way, Intel do Intel way, but advance in technology is undeniable.
Plus Linus regularly gets sponsored by Intel and regularly says how great AMD and Nvidia are, plus he has always been in the build your own PC camp, so someone like Linus may have bias because he is sponsored by the competition and he is not the type of person who would use these Macs.
I just got the M1 mac, they only had it in one city in my 200-mile radius. It is a fantastic device, the speed and the thermals alone makes it worth it. You can actually use this laptop, on your lap.
What is the app that shows CPU and GPU usage in the toolbar? Anyone knows?
Max should I buy the M1 MacBook Air or buy the iPAD PRO 2021?
Please help me decide :]
Thank you Max! Looking forward to taking delivery of my M1 MBP next week. I'm currently using a 2015 13" base model MBP and I'm really impressed how it handles 4K A7III footage in FCP. 4K iPhone footage brings it to its knees though lol.
2015 13" iPhone 4k brings down to knees only due to missing CPU hardware codes of HEVC aka h.265. The same gonna happen with M1 when new codec will be introduced h.266
Hi max, I cannot find any info on this Bruce X app.. Do you have a link? Also, are there any other simple apps to check how my computer is handling? I notice my fans kick on when I'm booting up my machine and I'm not sure why or maybe if something is running in the background at startup triggering this. I have the latest MacBook Pro 16 maxed out.
I'd love to see a video on 8GB vs 16GB for non-Pro workflows. Things like many Safari tabs, a Zoom call going on, Spotify playing, maybe a few Google Docs tabs editing files, a powerpoint file or large textbook PDF file open. 9to5Mac had a good article on the 8GB of RAM models. Seems like even if it has to go into swap memory it's still pretty quick.
Love your channel! Quick question - does the M1 mini stand up to M1 Macbook Pro as far as editing? Do you recommend the Mini vs Macbook - despite obvious lack of mobility etc. etc. Considering the cost... Follow up - how do both perform with adobe after effects.
Should I just buy it this year or should I wait until the newer model release?
Bro is this the 256gb version of macbook air M1? Thank you
Yes
Thanks for this Max! I just spent an HOUR on the phone with Apple trying to get answers about the speed of the M1 chip with video editing and they told me to Google bc they did not know. This is super helpful! Is the full comparison video out yet?
Is the 8GB Ram version enough for a student with minor video editing, media consumption, coding, etc?
Absolutely, this guy is handling pro video with ease. You will be fine with 8GB
Great review! Thank you for the effort!! Do you think it makes a difference to upgrade to 16GB ram?
His next video will be 16gb. That’s what I’m waiting for
I own a 15 Inch early 2013 Macbook Pro. Definitely thinking about upgrading it to a 13 Macbook Pro. Still not sure to stick with 8GB and get a 1 TB Hard drive or Upgrade to 16GB and stick with a 512 or both. Great video!
I am very intrigued in the performance of these new M1 chipsets.... they are offering incredibly good speeds and power for the price.
Do you think it could edit Sony a7s III codecs smoothly?
Did Canon update their software? How are you liking it?
No other channel does this comprehensive performance testing/comparisons. Every time apple releases hardware, I come to this channel to check how it performs.
Same here!
Thanks again for this, exactly what I was waiting for
Great review! Btw, which version of Premiere Pro are you using? 2020?
So I LITERALLY just bought the 2020 27” iMac because I wasn’t sure how my workflow (mostly audio with AU plugins, and also FCP) would transition. Should I return this thing? It seems to work great, but I also don’t know HOW LONG until a new iMac/MBP 16” comes out.
Also what do you guys think about retail value on new Intel macs?
Tough position, I have a the same one since a couple of months ago, 64GB and 5700XT GPU, the bad part is that you can’t get that amount of RAM yet.
Nothing wrong with it, super happy, it flies, but for sure for tiny daily tasks that don’t require big amounts of RAM that M1 is smoking it.
I don’t think I would trade the iMac honestly, not for several years... but you know what? The MBA M1 16GB would be a great companion co-desktop.
I’m in the exact same position as you and I just started the return process and ordered the 13” Pro. With a 14-day return period it gives you plenty of time to run tests for your own use cases to see which would perform better!
I had an 8-core, 5700 XT + self-upgraded 64GB of RAM. From what I’m seeing here as a videographer who works with primarily 4K 10-bit 422, the 13” would be faster! Which is crazy to say
Return it. Do not settle right now, you might regret it later seeing these M1’s outperform the old ones. Better wait then regret
I’m in the same boat. Bought the MBP M1 16gb. I’m hoping the extra boost in ram will help me finally edit raw files in full quality
I would return it and get a Mac mini m1 16gb and buy a nice monitor probably save you a lot of money even still
I’m trying to decide if the pro is worth the extra 300 bucks over the air. Could you do a comparison between them to help people decide? Especially for those who use it for occasional use + occasional photo and video editing.
This is just insane. Everyone that owns a Mac Pro must be like wtfffff hahaha!
100% what everyone needs right now! 👍
Where do you get those cpu and graphics percentages from?
great review.. do you think with all the updates that Apple might support the new Radeon 6000 cards inside an eGPU enclosure or should I just bung in my 5700xt? Only I might ditch my old windows pc since I'm hardly using it now. (Threadripper 2950x, 64gb ram, 5700xt,) Your advice is always great. I did eventually learn to use FCPx over the summer for my own personal use now, as well as keep using Media Composer (work use only now)
I think the problem with 8k footage is 8Gb unify memory. In this case, RAM is actually a memory of GPU. If you will compare 16GB RAM MacBook Pro, I think it can handle 8K as well.
seen other videos plays 8k no problem
Nice work
Are you going to get your hands on a Mac mini M1? I would be interested to see what this thing can do.
compare with iMac 2020 i7 32gb ram
Should i buy this or a pc in same price as it can run games too
Might get the cheapest MBA until the 16 inch MBP releases.
so... mmm.. how rich are u?
@@gelobeast272 Not very rich, but you can buy a MBA on Black Friday, then sell it used. The lowest end model won't depreciate that much in value after taking into consideration the Black Friday savings.
We don't know when the MBP 16 will launch. If it launches in February, then it's probably not worth it. If the MBP 16 launches in August I would be willing to spend a few hundred bucks to have a MBA in the mean time.
@@OneCharmingQuark Oh yes BIG BRAIN
Same here.
Brilliant thinking!
I watched the video but don't really understand a lot of the jargon!
Quick question, would an M1 Macbook pro be good for viewing 4k footage from my drone and also powerful enough to do some basic video editing?
yes
Incredible video man. Super informative. Thank you for putting so much time and effort into these!
Many Thanks for this excellent video. You are getting always better and better !
Max is the best! Cheers
Do you think I should prioritize upgrading the ram to 16gb or the storage to 512ssd?
You cannot upgrade memory. The way I see it, having 16GB RAM will be useful for heavy workloads and future proof - whereas, if you run out of storage, you can add external storage via the more expensive but faster Thunderbolt, or the slower but adequate for most uses USB-C.
@@god-lightbulb thanks for the response that was what I was leaning towards
Great analysis as always. Thanks Max.
12:07 Will the 16gb of RAM give any improvement?
Just imagine 16” MBP with Apple Silicon and Apple discrete graphic and iMac with desktop version Apple Silicon. Holy shit! I still can’t believe it’s happening.
Max, can you please tell me if you think the RAM upgrade is worth the cost and if it is worth the cost, in what types of scenarios it would be beneficial. Thanks.
We will be testing this on Max Tech channel very soon!
You are testing with 8K and 6K and saying this machine is great. And this makes me sooo Happy cause iam shooting at 1080p and the editing would be a heaven for me. Cant wait to get this on my hands❤❤❤
A lot of people are talking about how much they’re looking forward to the higher end models with discrete graphics... but I wonder if that’s missing the point of Apple’s SoCs. The fact that the graphics are integrated into the same chip as the CPU, along with the RAM tied to both of them... that’s where these massive performance gains are coming from. The tight, physical integration and sharing of memory is what’s allowing them to smoke other systems.
I don't think that is what they mean.....What they mean is more powerful apple silicon chips......Like the Apple M2 for the Macbook Pro 16 being released next year (2021) with a 50-60W TDP compared to the 10-15W M1, that thing will be a beast.....Easily besting most high end gaming laptops with 230-330W Power bricks...while the Macbook Pro 16 will have a 96W Adapter.......apple always said their goal was desktop performance, with mobile soc power. Can't wait.
@NintendoGuy67 lol. no its an iPad Pro chip, al least get the facts right
@NintendoGuy67 no you are just unoptimized delusional
I’m sure a lot of people mean what you’re talking about, and I agree with that sentiment completely. But I’m seeing quite a few comments on these types of videos with people specifically mentioning discrete graphics. It’s those comments I’m referring to.
Yeah, I can see how Apple might forego discrete graphics in the thermally constrained devices, like laptops and iMacs. They can make whatever SoC they want for these, a unified chip with 8 graphic cores like they have now, but they can add cpu and graphics cores for the 16 inch MacBook Pros or iMacs. These machines might have 10 cpu cores and 12 gpu cores--whatever Apple wants they can do.
Hey Max! Any chance you could drop the Canon 10 Bit 422 project file from the 8:18 timeslot on a shared drive so that we could test that export out on our own Macs? I have a 2018 Mac Mini with 32GB of ram and a 8GB external GPU and would love to see the export time on it with that project.
I think this is my favorite M1 review channel.
Thanks so much for all the hard work. It really helped me to make my decision.
A really comprehensive video for editors thinking of buying this computer. Thank you.
*Where is the extra 2-3w of power in the MacBook pro's M1 going to, over the air's M1 because they both have the same single core and multicore peak performance. Is it the gpu? Does the gpu run at a higher clock?*
@@timotflink that is the base model. The 8 gpu core air has tdp of 10w while the macbook pro is using 12-13w. So where is the extra watts going to?
@ 9:50 The video card cost HOW MUCH??? 😅
Please include this test in the future round-up video: Time it takes to transcode ProRes RAW into 12-bit ProRes 4444 XQ (for a Resolve user). Thanks!
Thank you for these wonderful reviews! I'm still debating between the M1 air and the M1 pro. I really want to get into photo editing/video editing/music production but I'm a student and I'm having a tough time justifying spending the extra money on the pro. (plus I just love the rose gold air color) Would you recommend the pro or would the air satisfy my needs?
Azizi, it’s a tough call. I’d say figure out a way to purchase both and keep a sharp eye on how many days you have to bring one of them back. I think Apple has extended the time they allow for returns right now and I noticed that Best Buy has done the same (check their website though).
Or, buy the Air... test it like crazy. Then keep it or exchange it.
@@warrenheaton2814 thanks for your advice :) I think that's what I'm going to do. I'll buy the air and test it out a bunch and see if it suits me.
@@azizicuddles9091 I think the only thing to be disappointed about with the M1 Macs is the wait for non-Apple software to be Universal and to be stable. I have the developer Mac mini which by comparison to what Apple just released is way underpowered, but it plays World of Warcraft fluidly at the maximum graphics settings. However, even though version 9.0.2 is Apple Silicon native, I'm experiencing frequent crashes. Hopefully, the bugs get worked out sooner rather than later. Final Pro X, Compressor, Logic run astoundingly well (both the Intel version and the now up-to-date Universal). Creative Cloud Desktop (now Universal), Premiere Pro (Intel) and Media Encoder (Intel) all run really well. Photoshop's beta will run, but not every feature works. Illustrator, After Effects and InDesign all crash (and are currently all Intel).
Report back on what you get and how you like it!
@@WarrenHeaton I totally agree. And this is first gen so I would wait but my current laptop is about to expire haha