Rich Eisen Talks NL MVP Race; Says Mookie Betts Has Had a Better Career Than Mike Trout
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Rich Eisen reacts to the Braves’ and Dodgers’ epic opener of their 4-game series which leads to a debate: has Mookie Betts or Mike Trout had the better career to this point?
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The Braves vs Dodgers rivalry has become must see for the past 5 years.
and the braves will always crush them!
@@leticiaevans3705crazy how the Dodgers have all that extra money to poach talent away from other teams, yet the Braves continue to beat them with a way cheaper, mostly homegrown system. Same can be said for the Mets. Tried to buy a championship and failed miserably. I love it! 😂
As a Dodger Fan, I’m just so grateful to have Mookie on our team. The Dodgers as team have given my son and I some real awesome moments together. I’ll have those memories for the rest of my life and I can thank Mookie Betts and Dodgers for that!
2 points about Acuna v Betts for MVP-
1. Acuna has a record never achieved-and it’s a record with merit.
2. Look at Acura’s batting average for each month. Betts has had a hot August but Acuna has been hot all year.
yea, Acuña Jr. deserves this… his on base percentage….. just look at how many runs the braves score in the first inning….. and who has been the guy up to to bat in every one of those first innings… i think runs are valuable… and the “bigger bases” thing is crap…. then why doesn’t mookie steal more? I love ozzie but having freddy hit after you gives you a little advantage
FACTS
To me, any discussion of anyone but Acuña being the MVP is ridiculous and only the media trying to drum up a race when there isn’t one….
@@derrickrcNnyc you drum up this delusional aspect cus you're a Braves fan lol. Mookie Betts has earned every accolade already on his resume and those coming to him. His 2023 stats alone are better right now even after that series and it's not even close lol sit down
@@reno-san87 That's fine Mookie can have MVP, it won't matter when the Braves sweep the Dodgers in the NLCS (if LA even makes it that far)
“In the month of August” vs all year? I love Mookie, but the 30/60 and consistent play of Acuña should be a runaway vote.
oh yeah? have you even looked at their monthly stats? mookie had a slow start in april. since then, mookie has out performed ronald according to pure numbers in almost every single month. you can literally go to stat muse and look at their per-month totals and stats. mookie has been “consistently” better since may.
Are we really discussing MVP when a guy has 31 bombs and 62 steals with 27 games to go? Batting 330 plus and leading the league in hits? Plays on the best team in baseball, with the best record?
To act like this is a conversation is embarrassing. Acuna by a HUGE margin. He’s doing what has NEVER been done. Give me what Betts is doing that has never been achieved.
exactly…. looks at how many runs the braves produce in the first inning compared to the dodgers…. i think runs are important
It's called creating content or playing radio. They have to have something to make people argue
NUFF SAID!!!
@@p0pimp2004This is exactly it, just clickbait. Terrible take from Rich on purpose.
Should of placed a bet when Acuña was mvp odd +125 just 6 days ago. I'll be kicking myself for that one. It's-195 now.
It’s not even a debate, R . Acuna Jr. is your MVP!
Exactly, this is sports media trying to drum up a contest…
@@derrickrcNnyc explain how without blubbering on about stat-padded stolen bases, because that’s literally the only thing he’s been doing better than mookie.
1. Acuna
2. Freddy
3. Mookie
You should seriously get checked out
Acuna deserves the MVP over all
Thank you Rich for talking ball daily. Baseball is still fascinating and a worthy "national pastime." The rules changes for this year has a lot of America jacked again. If MLB contracted by four teams and moved Tampa to a viable market, it could have a renaissance of untold proportions.
Acuna will have 35hr and 70sb by seasons end. He’s the real MVP
He's at 32 right now. He may actually join the 40-40 club.
40-70?
And Rich Eisen throws away all credibility in 1 minute.
There should be no discussion. Acuna mvp of the league. Betts got benched in the second game along with freeman.
The disrespect on trout name that’s man finish top 5 in mvp nearly every year
Sure, and also missed a lot of many seasons for injuries. If not for his injuries, then sure, he's above Betts. But if you miss half of every season, you're not as valuable to your team as a perennial all star who barely ever gets injured.
@@stuffbenlikesMike Trout has a better WAR per season than Mookie Betts and that includes all the seasons where Mike Trout missed time
I'm actually a huge Trout fan. Just sad that the Angels and injuries kept him from the even greater heights he should have achieved.@@yeshayagreenstone5045
Check the Baseball Reference Page Rich! If Trout had been drafted to the Red Sox instead of the Angels he'd be a world series champ by now and held in much higher regard in baseball lore
Lol if et was real he woulda been better than trout
Nobody told him to sign a long term deal he chose that
Acuna has got this
Mookie can step up in the biggest moments and come up clutch in the post season, as we have seen over and over again in Redsox red and now in dodger blue... we will never know with Trout since we have never seen him play a single minute of meaningful baseball past july, ever.
Ok but Trout has Arte Moreno as a owner. One of the worst in pro sports
Whelp he didn’t “step up” this weekend compared to Acuna.
My input to this argument is that if Trout played on a team with the line up similar to the Dodgers, his numbers all the way around would not only be better, but we'd have seen him play quite a few post season games. Unfortunately, he's on one of the worst teams in baseball. He's getting paid but it sucks for his legacy since he'll never win a post season game.
Damn, I don’t think I or the general public was ready for that Mookie vs Trout career hot take. Tough to hear but also tough to argue
Generational Loser vs Generational Winner Mike Trout < Mookies Betts
Baseball is Lit this season
Rich…Rich…Rich….I guess you need to define “better career.” Because you’re completely nuts and completely wrong if you’re implying Betts has been the better player than Trout over their careers. Nuts and not true…lol
soooo, now that two more games has happened, Acuna is the MVP because he has outplayed Betts in dodger stadium, hit two more homeruns(one of them is the 3rd hardest hit homerun ever recorded on the statcast era). would you agree?
The moment that Betts does something that NO OTHER PLAYER in MLB HISTORY has done then he can be in the MVP discussion.
he’s hitting 40 homers as a leadoff hitter. he’s getting over 110 rbi as a leadoff hitter. he’s doing this while playing gold glove defense at 3 different positions. that’s never been done before. stop cherry picking stats and look at the actual numbers. your bias is insane lmao.
and dont even get me started on the stolen bases. 1, hes stat padding half of them and they’re barely valuable to his team. 2, it is the easiest year EVER to steal bases; pitchers can’t even pick him off because of the new rules, and the pitch clock, AND the big bases. this “record” isn’t even half as impressive as you think it is, and neither is the value. open your euee
@@strudel1347 If they're so easy why isn't anyone else doing it?
@@strudel1347 Sure Betts is having what would normally warrant MVP consideration EXCEPT in a year when Acuna is doing something no other MLB player has done. I'm not cherry picking stats. Look at all the different stats and Acuna is leading or top 5 in every offensive stat. His defense is nothing to laugh at neither.
@@strudel1347get out your feelings bruh
Mookie Betts definitly has the better career than Trout. In a vacuum, could Trout be a slightly better player than Mookie numbers wise, probably, but we remember careers and greatest players In sports in what you do in October playoff games. That’s what Mookie has over Trout.
I'd say it's not getting injured and missing significant portions of his career that puts him over Trout. Also not being on the most incompetently run team in the majors helps.
Mookie has certainly closed the gap the last few years with Trout. Mookie is a far better fielder than Trout, overall stats are lower cumulatively since he’s played a few less years but Mookie when all said and done in 20 years we may very well be saying Mookie was the better player.
The story of Trout's career is what he HASN'T done. The story of Mookie's career is what he HAS done.
Mike trout has three mvps and finished second at least twice...u and rich couldn't be more wrong.
@@rossdilworth3594Mookie has two World Series Titles!!
@@rossdilworth3594ask yourself which career u would want. Wouldn’t you want what’s best? To me that’s mookies
@@rossdilworth3594sir he never been in playoff better won 2 chips with 2 different teams and he lives in playoffs trout is injured every season you don't know what your talking about
Stupid. Trout it twice as good.
There should be no more debate after this series, Acuna MVP and he has been ALL YEAR.
Let’s not forget, Ronald Acuña, Jr did what he did in that game the same day he got married to his longtime partner and mother of his children. Man can’t stop ascending.
Edit: Betts didn’t even deserve player of the week last week. Marcell Ozuna was robbed. Look at the numbers. Betts led BA by a few measly points. Other than that, Ozuna beat him , in a figurative, stat-compiling sense, of course. 👀
You had me at barbershop quartet mustache 😂🤣☠️
Cody Bellinger gets my nod for MVP this season.
As a fellow Masshole it just pains me to watch Chris when Mookie comes up😂
Also, to echo others here, thanks Rich for putting baseball on daily; a hella lotta old guys-all of us over 50, let’s say-watch/listen to you and still care.
I miss Mookie everyday - happy we just fired BLOOM
If Mookie ends up with around 44 Homeruns, 110 RBI's avg. 320 how is he not the mvp? His WAR is almost a point higher than acuna and his defense is better than acuna as well
Ronald got a better average
he would be the MVP…. any other year….. Acuña Jr is better than him in almost every batting stat…. and it’s contributed to more runs for his team, and more wins….
@@robinhoodhustsle1356and mookie has more home runs and RBIs…. Mookie plays mulitple defensive positions. Do not act like he doesn’t have a case
@richierich30001 he has a case, but acunas' consistency should put him ahead of betts at the moment
It's Acuña
Ah, this is the time of the year when so many fans jump out with their disingenuous MVP arguments full of cherry-picked statistics.
best player on best team: Acuna > everyone
This is crazy, mike trout at his peak was better than mookie Betts and I'm sorry rich..cal ripken jr. Was a way better shortstop than Derek jeter. Facts are irrelevant though so whatever.
great bull durham reference
Trout signed a humongous contract and now can't stay on the field. He misses half of every season and spends his time building a golf course with Tiger Woods. His peak was better than Betts, but he never plays anymore.
The Red Sox made a mistake, its not the first time. As a Red Sox fan, I hope Mookie wins it.
I understand that Mookie had a great month in August. But one month does not quantify MVP. Its a season long award. Just like if someone. Omes out and wins 5 games in September as a strting pitcher, they shouldnt win the CY Young. Hell if we are looking at one month productivity then why isnt DeLaCruz in the talks for MVP? Mookoe is getting the natural Dodger favoritism that that team always gets.
Mookie has been doing this all year!!! Hell, he's been doing this since Boston!! This one hot month crap has got to stop!!!
@damonwilliams6793 the ONLY REASON he is in the MVP talk is because on August. Take that month out and he has been good. But not MVP caliber player.
@@damonwilliams6793 might wanna check the stats...he has consistently improved since Boston. He has not played at this level ever in his career. But his stats are padded because of August. So it's not gonna stop because it's the truth
Mookie is not better than Trout. He is an incredible, guaranteed future HOFer, and one of my favorite players. But he is not better than Trout. People seem to be losing track of just how incredible Trout really is based on his lack of support and recent injury issues (which aren't as severe as people make them out to be - compare to someone like Harper for example). Trout is a top 5 CF all time. And possibly already a top 20 player all time. Or in that region. Mookie is not that type of player. He is a no doubt HOFer when all is said and done. He is not an inner circle guy like that. Only 2-3 guys per generation are that. Trout, Pujols, maybe Ohtani depending on how much longer he can 2-way are those hitters. And then the big 3 pitchers.
Coming from a diehard Dodgers fan, Mookie has not had a career better than Mike Trout's. If one makes a comparison between Mookie's career so far with Trout's career through his age-30 season, one can easily see the difference is quite substantial.
Trout: 1.002 OPS, 176 OPS+, 350 homeruns, 896 RBI, 1407 games
Betts: .902 OPS, 138 OPS+, 251 homeruns, 747 RBI, 1241 games
Through their age-30 season, Trout has sustained an OPS that's a full 100 points higher than Mookie's, that's not a small difference.
That 2018 Red Sox team is one of the best of all time . How many all stars has Mike Trout had besides Shoei in Aniheim?
Once again, another "national" perspective slanted away from just how special the Braves organization really is. It's like they feel forced to speak on all things Braves.
If you think Mookie had had a better career than Trout, stop talking. Your opinion is immediately irrelevant.
Do y’all not hear yourself? Yes, Mookie has been incredible in August.
But Ronald has been great since the first day of the season.
How can anyone say that a player who is great for 1 month deserves to win an award where you’re supposed to be judging the entire season of the players?
That's literally like saying the Ronald Acuna Jr. shouldn't win MVP cuz if you take out his good games then he wouldn't be good.
Just listen to what you are saying and you'll realize how ridiculous it is
@@yeshayagreenstone5045
Oh my gosh…What??
That isn’t what I said.
Media folks have put Betts in the MVP race talk based on his numbers during the month of August.
Ronald has had great numbers every month of this season.
As in CONSISTENTLY.
Very few & also very short slumps. That’s Acuna.
Betts first half was not consistent.
Therefore…he wouldn’t be deserving of the MVP award.
Player of the Month in August…sure.
For the 2023 SEASON…no.
C’mon 🙄
“Off speed spinner”
-Rich
My girlfriend left me for mike trout's baseball reference page... I don't have a girlfriend and she still left me there is levels to this
That ten year old needs to pick some lottery numbers. Lol
JP Crawford deserves MVP. Best shortstop in the league.
Lol, he's a fine player...he's not even the best shortstop in your division. Corey seager is better, and I think there was a rookie shortstop than won a ws MVP last year in Houston.
😂
I had Mookie and Ronald on my fantasy team and won the ship 🏆
Acuna is the MVP. Record breaking season, best player on the best team in the league. What’s the discussion here?
Exactly, Acuña is making history but they just want to make it an interesting story. Most just want a good story. Acuña has been consistently great all year and is on a first place team. Betts had one hot month and is on a second place team…..y’all really want the guy on the first place making MLB history to not be MVP? Cool, because we’ll take the WS ring.
Betts is having the better individual season. Just cause acuna breaks a record doesn't automatically mean he should win MVP. You guys are over-valuing what SB are worth. They're equal to doubles, and all of those stats are put together into OPS and WRC, which Betts is higher in. The only thing Acuna has over betts is the stolen bases and batting avg. Betts is better in every other individual stat. Betts even has more RBIs than Acuna even though they're both leadoff hitters and Acuna's team is more stacked. Better players on his team and yet Acuna still has less rbis.
What record did he break? And who held it? You don't know the answer because 30/60 was never a thing. It's a made up combo, where neither number is even half the record.
@@darkwitnesslxx would calling it a never achieved record setting historical accomplishment suffice for you bozo? You seem like a fun person
@@Itsme-wp8yc No. Its a bullshit stat that nobody is going to care about or track, after this year. They are competing stats. No top homerun hitter will ever challenge the steal record, and no top stealer will ever challenge the homerun record. They are fundamentally different types of players. And as someone who thinks Acuna does deserve the mvp, concentrating on this nonsense takes away from his season where he's been consistently great at avg, obp, ops, slugging, rbi's, runs scored, war, ..etc. Better than Mookie, except for August. Give the kid his due, not make up crap.
One month doesn't make you the mvp.
Mookie been doing this all year, not one month!! That is a dumb argument!!! They both deserve MVP, along with Freeman and Olson, but I'm not going to downplay Acuna just because I'm rooting for Mookie!!
@@damonwilliams6793 want to rethink that dumbass statement that it wasn't a one month outlier?
Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree here. Mookie was better than Trout in 2018 as well as in all those other years in which Trout got injured (which includes this year). But looking at their careers as a whole, I still got Trout on top no question.
How he always injured never in playoffs Betts lives in playoffs n gots 2 chips weres your logic
Betts is the modern day Hank Aaron. I bet Betts plays well until he's 40. 3000 hits, 500 home runs, 10 plus gold gloves, 4 WS titles, 110 WAR and 3 MVP's by the time his career is over. I would even take a healthy Bryce Harper over Trout currently.
Lol your out of the 🌎 saying Betts is even close to Aaron please .. he won’t even get 600 homers.. If he gets to 700 you could put him in that class his name should be mentioned in these place as a historical all time legend lol.
@@bluriceinc3365 Betts will be statistically the best player of this generation at his current pace. He isn't an overweight power hitter or first baseman, so he has a great chance to play meaningful ball until he's 40.
I would have to agree. Trout gets injured so much.
I agree, mookie has had a better “career” than Trout. It’s Trouts fault that he didn’t get the hell out of Anaheim when he had the chance 💯
I love Mookie, he's going to be a first ballot HOF player, but he isn't Trout. Yes Trout has had injuries the last few seasons, but he had 40hrs in less than 120 games last year, and let's be honest the Angel's are an injury prone organization, I don't blame it all on Trout.
John henry and bloom are the biggest jokes in sports.
Definitely would rather be mookie Betts than Mike Trout.
Well, Mookie Betts has the initial of MLB for a reason ...
Mookie has better career than Trougt...umm////NO!
Mookie Bette has had a better career than Trout absolutely. Once he wins another MVP and some more accolades the conversation won’t be close
You are absolutely delusional, take one look at Mike Trout's baseball reference page and then try saying that with a straight face
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That stupid for rich to say betts has a better career that trout. Trout killing betts in all stats. You can’t count wins or a World Series win talking about mlb players. One or two players don’t have that much control over a game to get a win. That was all time stupid. Just damn stupid.
Acuna is in the 35/65 club
40-68 with 8 games to spare
Red Sox traded Ruth then Betts
Trout's injuries turned an all time great/inner circle hall of fame talent into a 3rd tier hall of famer.
@stuffbenlikes Trout is already at a little over 85 career rWAR/fWAR (and this can be broken down further) in just 1489 career games played, with what was one of the 10 best primes ever out of any position player ever. Dude is at worst a top 25 position player ever already, and you have the nerve to drop the “3rd tier hall of famer” label on him? Lol, come on.
Regardless, he's not the inner circle hofer he would be without the injuries. And that's sad, I'm a big fan.@@jimtaylor6447
Learn the game,..then post.
Wow, so much substance to your response. I'm not convinced. @@JustineLaLoba
Ronald Acunã > mookie
Mookie is not better than Trout.
And how do you know that he is mexican??? Always all the immigrants have said mexicans that not all is true, though
Mookie MVP
Sunday night and you are smoking crack, that’s sad.
didn’t age well your comment
OBVIOUSLY mookie Betts has had a better mlb career hen mike trout. Betts is better statistically and has won 2 World Series while mike trout hasn’t even won any world series at all.
Generational Losers Mike Trout < Generational Winner Mookies Betts.
Better career? Sure. I suppose in a sense Joe Flacco had the better career than Dan Marino, but everyone knows who is the better QB. Like wow, I can't believe a player for the Red Sox or Dodgers had a nicer career in baseball than someone stuck on the Angels, very shocking any other hot takes lmao
Why is Trout even in the thumbnail? 😂 they doing everything to keep that man relevant lol
Who the eff let’s this guy talk baseball😂
My entire life, I’ve lived right dead nuts center in the ball sack of Braves country Greenville SC. Im so sick of hearing about Acuna. I like the Dodgers. And there is no more of a class act than Mookie Betts. Forget about player for a sec, just an all around great human being. But Acuna for as much as I hate to say may have the MVP edge. I would love to see Mookie win it though and someone finally beat Atlanta. I despise that tacky town so much. Maybe they’re saving that beat down for Atl when it counts the most.
Go Braves!
Greatness is greatness no matter what your opinion is 😊
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