2022 Indian Chief Dark Horse Review - Old School Modern 4K
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- 2022 Indian Chief Dark Horse Review - Old School Modern: Another review of an American bruiser thanks to the guys at Krazy Horse in Bury St Edmunds.....and now in glorious 4K too!
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I live a couple of miles from Hadrian’s Wall and recent excavations nearby suggest that the Romans exclusively rode Indians and Harley Davidsons.
Is that a fact?! 🤓
..however, further digs into lower strata levels have uncovered carvings that, once deciphered, read "and God's Triumph was heard throughout the land", and a second carving claimed that "loud pipes save lives" though whether that second text can be ascribed any divine significance is disputed.
As an American, I will never understand why so many Europeans/non-Americans (not you TMF) say cruisers with forward controls "can't be ridden long distances" or "are incapable of touring". Americans rack up millions of miles a year collectively on forward control set cruisers. Just say "I don't like them" or whatever, but to say you can't ride them long distances is just completely untrue. Puzzles me...
Thanks for a fun review. I have absolutely no use for a cruiser, but if I did, Indian would be it for me. They’re doing a good job of incorporating modern performance into the old-school styling, as compared to HD. Thanks again.
Yes I agree Marco....
Those wheels are so cool, WOW. I can't believe how cool those are on a factory bike, they look so expensive. The cooling fins, and the single crank pin on the Indian Thunderstroke (126 ft lbs/162 NM of torque at 2,900 rpms) shows loyalty to the heritage of American V-Twin cruisers. There is something so unusual and cool about a giant air cooled V-Twin with single crank pin. I think the single crank pin engine was never meant to exist, but the beautiful musical sound has kept it around for 100 years.
Andy, I ride a 21 Indian Chieftain Limited 116. Judging from my own experience I believe that your review of this Chief was fair and accurage. You're correct about the cruise control- should have been on the left side. Good job as always.
Been looking at one of these for my next bike. Instantly a flyer review pops up. Another solid review 👌
Cheers Ed!
I test rode one of these bikes and totally agree with your review. The smile on the face factor is 10 out of 10 and in sport mode pulls like a train. Lot more refined than a harley especially the gearbox.
I own this bike and youre 99% right an nailed it.
But you dont have to wait till the homescreen starts - you just can go immediately
Thanks for the work you put into theses videos . I can't begin to think what goes into production .. Thanks again .
Peace and love brother ✌ 💚
Much appreciated - lot more goes into this game than people realise....
Another excellent review , makes a pleasant change to hear a UK bike vlogger being so positive about riding a cruiser , I'd love to have a test ride on the Indian Super Chief Limited which I think is a lovely looking bike and one I'd certainly consider buying however Indian dealers in the North of England are practically non existent so unless I made a weekend pilgrimage down to Krazy Horse in deepest darkest Suffolk the chances of test riding one are slim.
I really like Krazyhorse as a place to visit for their clothing section and for something to eat/drink. Nice showroom as well with lots of interesting stuff. Keep hoping to bump into you there TMF! 😅
Great review-My commuting route back in the 80's-Good times!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great review Andy, next time you're on that road and you get to the big roundabout, take the 3rd exit (towards Lakenheath), And approx 200 yards on the right is Walkers cafe which is a local bikers destination stop off, especially the weekends. it was once mentioned in MCN.
I do like the disclaimer at the start of the vids, it did take several attempts to stop in the right place. Well done for setting out the rules in an amusing way.
Glad you enjoyed it - congrats on you pausing skills!
Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just keep getting better and better 👍
Yes there's something about the marque that appeals to me for sure.....
A great review, on a bike I think looks lovely. If I was in the market for a new cruiser, this would probably be near the top of my list, and especially in that colour.
Great review, as always. Totally agree that display should be on the Triumph Rocket. I may have to ride one of these to see how it compares to the Thunderbird. My biggest complaint will likely be such a big engine with the single disc up front. Don't know why the Americans are so committed to that. It's not in the Constitution. I looked.
Good work!
As an American, I must say the Constitution remark was really funny. I do not get the logic of single disc brakes on such heavy machines either. That said, there is an Indian dealer ten minutes from my house, and I may have to see if I can test ride one of these bikes.
i have owned the bike for a year now, absolutely love it
Good to hear!
Hi Andy 👍 fantastic looking machine😎😎😎 and excellent video. The Indian bikes sure have character in buckets 👏👏👏
Yes they do - thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Hey, that's my bike! Excellent review I agree with all your points after 5k miles. Glad you had a go at an Indian, now ya gotta test em all! :)
It's not the first Indian I've ridden of course...
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oops, I even thumbed up the Challenger review. Been a while!
Nice review & a very cool bike. Indian have definitely trumped Harley in the cool stakes for me.
Hi Andy the camera must of sorted it's self out on the Indian motorcycle when you went for a test ride oh boy what a great Indian motorcycle it looks amazing to use on long distance riding here in the UK England or in Europe. But i carried on watching your TH-cam video on the Indian motorcycle and your camera was distorted at the beginning part of your TH-cam video and then your camera was working perfectly fine on the test ride on the Indian motorcycle but oh boy i just love that Indian motorcycle looks fantastic. Anyway Andy matey 👍 thanks for the TH-cam video on Indian motorcycle and i really enjoyed watching it keep up the great work on motorcycles reviews because i really enjoyed watching them 👍👍👍 thanks from mark from the Wirral Merseyside 👍👍
Absolutely love Indian bikes,Krazy Horse is a fantastic ride out,great cafe upstairs aswell.
Another good destination for you would be TTT,Sudbury,Suffolk.
You’d love there showroom.
Great review, I was on the same roads yesterday on my softail slim
Great roads around there aren’t they…..
Love it Flyer. I sat on an Indian bobber at the London Motorcycle show and found the set up with forward pegs immediately uncomfortable. This model with mid set controls appears infinitely more rideable. I’d personally change the silencers. Perhaps two into one to streamline the back end. The team at Indian have done a fabulous job on the neat wiring, cockpit controls and the tft . Well done 👏
Yes I agree Jamie...
Great video as always. I am a big Indian fan, love the Scout and the Chief is a beautiful bike. The TFT is for me the best on any bike and sets the standard for how they should look, especially on a cruiser or retro bike.
Couldn't agree more!
Another amazing review Andy. Love the way these cruisers look but somehow never took to them after test riding some of them. If I eventually go for one it will be mid set pegs. Thought I would prefer the fat Bob as it has proper twin disc brakes but just didn’t do it for me when I rode one.
Nice bike mr Flyer! This bike looks so much like the stripped down choppers of the old days. Clever!
I found the same two problems on my 2017 Indian Scout (before I traded it for the GS). The heat from the pipe, especially at traffic lights, and the small front disc. Stopping hard on the Scout caused shuddering from the front end. And the heat from the pipe was a problem too, couldn't top up the oil without burning your fingers.
I knew you’d love it.
I’ve got the 2020 model, the bigger chief and it’s a beaut to ride
Great review...lovely bike..looks fabulous and great combination of tech and old skool looks .. wouldn't look to out of place at the bike shed show as standard.
Totally agree
Good review for great bike!
I am yet to ride an Indian but they are easily my favorite looking bike and when i move house and have a garage i am adding one to the collection for sure.
Riding the B1101 i see between Bury St Edmunds and Barton Mills. You missed a great Outside Biker Cafe just off the 5 Ways Roundabout in Barton Mills. The B1101 is a good road Suffolk Rocks. Keep up the good work
Thanks for the info - next time (if only I hadn't stuffed my face at Krazy Horse in their excellent cafe!!)
Another super video TMF. I love this bike. Love the colour too.
I’ve started my own channel now but only 3 vids and just for fun. You get an honourable mention in part 1 at 11 mins 17 secs as an inspiration to me. It’s called ‘The Black Country Biker’
Ooh very exciting! I’ll check it out….
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks Andy, don’t expect too much, it’s a big learning curve for me lol.
Usual comprehensive review. Nice setting for a test ride.
Yes it was - lovely riding around there....
Nicely done Andy.
Thank you kindly!
I’m seriously considering a Chief Bobber. They just look so cool.
Agreed!
Great vid as always. I really like the bike, particularly the TFT screen, which gives so much for such a small screen! I noticed you had a Schuberth helmet, which one is it and what’s it like overall? I am just considering a new helmet! Maybe a review on helmets might be something you could do in your normal detailed style?
CHeckout of my recent review video th-cam.com/video/zTrEkL-sy0Q/w-d-xo.html
Love this bike, love the clever display! And the price is great for what it is!
😂🤣LOVE THE “small print”! Well Done.
Well done on spotting it Mark!
Nice Indian motorbike, just watch out for the cowboys lol, so couldn’t resist Mr Flyer. A great motorbike with a very low seat height not bad. I do like it and even may put on my list motorbike I would love to ride. Great review Mr Flyer
Thank you Dennis
The horse power must be top secret. I couldn't find it listed. Really great looking bike. Love the green.
Super review. Agree it needs dual disks up front with that weight!
Had a Harley sportster which was fun, but that looks a stunning bike Andy 👍
Absolute beauty to me would love nothing more than to own one. Have to add some bits for the missus to sit on and a quarter fairing looks nice
My pausing skills are awesome 👏 love it.
Well done Jeff...
Ah nothing like a character cruiser. It feels special. Remember your early days of scepticism converted. 😆
There is a long echo in my garage. Cost of living crisis? Right lol
Maybe a feature on the most economical to buy and run motorcycles?
Great review 👍
Indian make amazing looking engines, either air or water cooled. Cruisers are not really my style but that is certainly a bike I would be happy to see in the garage.
Saw one in the flesh at the English Riveira Bike Night in Paignton last week. Stunning looking machine that may need a test ride.
Yes it’s a lovely bit of kit for sure….
Biggest problem is the lack of localish dealers.
Looks like a great bike. Love the foot peg placement. I have a solution. Build a bigger garage and you can fit more bikes!
I hope you get a chance to ride the new BSA Gold Star soon. Looks like fun.
Me too!
Love the military style and color
Andy, I wonder how you think this stacks up against the heavier Indians? Just from the standpoint of coolness and seating position, I would go with this Indian Chief DH any time of the day. It is not monstrous heavy yet has a decent wheelbase. And for a tall guy (like me) the comfort level with the forward foot controls is amazing. It is on the top of my list (and would complement my BMW 850 GS wonderfully.) Thanks for your inspiring review.
Enjoyed that review. Knew nothing about that bike but sounds like one for me. If only it was £5000 cheaper.
Gorgeous looking bike
Only cruiser I’d buy, love the looks and modern touches…
Had an Indian now for 3 years, superb machine been all over Europe, had Harley's for 12 year not again, Indian are the future.
absolutely great video...now where did you get your jacket and gloves. thanks
hi, really would like to know where to get your jacket and gloves. thank you.
Looks a lovely bike sounds great as well
It does!
My son just picked up the Bobber version of this bike. The only bad part? He ordered it the first week of January and it just showed up a few weeks ago! He does love it and has put several hundred miles on it in a few weeks time.
Fabulous engine, hydraulic valves and geared primary drive. No chain/tensioner issues. The less maintenance, the better. A shame about the belt final drive hassle though, as mentioned by Mr. Chad Gruver. Indian really need to fix that problem.
Nice bike apart from the exhaust 😉I like it 👍
Another good review Andy - thank you! Interested in the Segura Butch gloves you were wearing but confused about what size guides are saying. Any advice? I normally take a large but Segura size chart suggests medium but then feedback from buyers suggests Segura sizing is on the small size!
Yes I'd agree with that - they do come up a little small - I have "Medium" and they feel a little on the tight side....
Nice bike great review 79 HP torque 120 LB - ft 1,890 cc Looks very much a Victory Gunner 2015 - 2017 106 ci / 1731 cc 110 LB -ft. Never met a Victory rider with any complaints they should be flocking back to Indian which definitely
has an interesting line up now.
Just had knee surgery; tore my knee last summer Biking & Camping in British Columbia. Leaned The Pan over a bit too much weight on my left while parking and righting it back up. Knee surgery is 10 times more pain as injury, so reading an interesting book on the couch while hobbling around and thought I’d share it with you and the mrs. The Perfect Vehicle by Melisa Holbrook Pierson.
I've tried a bike at the same time as TMF for once! Loved the torque and the balance. Only thing I'd change is the handlebar - wished it was swept back a little further. This one put me in a weird hunched position with the feet forward. Surprisingly vibe-free otherwise compared to the FTR at the same speeds.
Indian does have a full range of factory handlebars for the chief lineup, the Chief Bobber comes with a midrise set of handlebars
@@danielstewart7732 Thanks - that's good to know!
There is also the swept back bars on the fully loaded version. Like ‘beach’ bars. I feel the same on mine and am changing over to these bars for that reason.
@@andy4072 That sounds like a fun ride! I tried the Indian Pursuit touring version on the same day and those were my favorite handlebars. Good to know there's a similar option out there.
You hated it then Andy😂 cheers for a refreshing fun review and with your following it won't have done the brand any harm but totally the opposite in fact👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
I miss Bury Saint Edmonds sooo much! 2018 Mildenhall D 🛫
A very competent machine - does what it says on the tin but for me the tin could do with a bit more colour!! Great review as ever!!
Hehe - like it!
I believe they are going for the “Captain America” look because thousands of Indians and Harleys were issued to soldiers during WWII and they were that shade of green.
Fun review! I've had three Indian Motorcycles since their debut in 2014. The last was a 2017 Roadmaster. All three had belt drive issues, it was impossible to keep the belt from squealing and being torn up on the pulley. The tolerance is so minute that any debris puts the belt out of spec and rubs. I finally couldn't stand it anymore after three bikes and four belt/pulley replacements (they're not cheap replacements either). Otherwise, beautiful bikes. Oh and they're just hot, kind of like a Panigale, you're riding on an oven but you go into it knowing that. The Challenger is much better relative to motor, converter heat.
Never rode hotter than on this air cooled chief in the blistering south florida summer heat. "Oven" is right lmao. What suggestions do you have for preventing belt drive issues for us current owners?
p.s. the challenger was not an oven at all, it was the perfect bike, but just a little out of budget
@@bikesandchikn I'm sorry to hear you're also experiencing these belt drive issues. Honestly, I don't have nor does Polaris have a "real" solution for the final drive. I feel it's a design issue as HD doesn't have this chronic problem. The best solution unfortunately is a shaft drive bike.
@@chadgruver4423 not yet, my chief has 2000 miles it's still relatively new. I meant what do you suggest we do to prevent belt drive issues from happening? are there things we can do to maintain it?
@@bikesandchikn clean the belt routinely, set some kind of cadence, maybe every time you wash the bike. Also, with each oil and filter change check the tension and alignment of the belt. If you're doing this at a dealership it will likely be an add on to your service charges. DO NOT, wax your belt like some of the many internet solutions to this problem say. It just makes it worse. There are scads of internet entries on this problem, check out what others say to do as well.
Very nice like the look of that!!
Really Chopsie?? I didn't think you were a cruiser man.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer love a cruiser me!!
Since when!?
Lovely bike as you said your used to snappier brakes but it's a CRUISER
Not a fan of harleys / cruisers etc, , but my local dealer has one of these and for the money, i was impressed. Sell your ducati and buy one of these.
Steady on there Kev!!
Awesome Review 👍😎
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Glad you enjoyed it
As always good review,you absolutely like the Krazey Horse team clever marketing, you should comparing the Harley Sport Glide. Sarge Suffolk Widows Sons
Thanks for this review. I have never ridden an Indian, but I have one purchasing rule that I abide by, and I'm still alive because of it. For 16,000 whatever your currency, a single front disk isn't enough for the money, for that, even for 12,000 is questionable. You even mention that maybe front brake is light. With a weight of around 300 kg, a single front disk is going to fade when you really need it. I don't understand manufacturers who skimp on safety and they're many of them.
Fair enough!
INDIAN RULES IN TECH ! 🏍👍
A nice cruiser. I like the colour too.
Me too!
Great review tmf thanks from danny
My pleasure
Think I'd try to shift the numberplate to somewhere above the rear mudguard. It looks very odd hanging out the side.
The road you are travelling on at 15.30 is very popular with Bikers. Leads you onto the 5 ways roundabout on the A11 at Mildenhall. Take the road to Lakenheath and after 200 yards on the right is Walkers Snacks, a favourite stop for Bikes, Cars and Trucks. Always someone to talk to. Best Bacon Rolls in the area.
I know that roundabout well - went over it yesterday as it happens....
@@TheMissendenFlyer And round it at the end of the video. Lots of nasty smashes there - mostly cagers not paying attention
Hi I’ve got some news I’ve bought a bike , a Yamaha Fj1300 2019 with the electric suspension , blue and only done 10,000 miles in new condition. I’m in shock 64 and going back on bikes . 👍🏍
It’s a nice bike a lot of rider modes are just throttle curve only top power equal in all .. a couple you have ridden recently mr mis..
Pros and Cons - what about Pillion seat or lack of..., no points for luggage... love the look of it and perhaps push rod engine too, or are the tubes fake ? Glad you loved riding it!!
Nowt fake on this bike!
Test rode this bike. Loved it.still prefer my t100. But second bike would be top pick.
The "Hot Leg" is a safety feature :) when you're out on a long day getting a bit sleepy just hold your leg against it. Will wake you right up.
That's for sure!
Good fun video - reminds me of your Fatboy vid ....thanks for sharing the joy once again
Definitely a smile machine!
Quite impressed. Being fussy I'd anodise the valve covers, and replace the zorst, not louder (we get the *loud* on this x-roads, like mad,, and it's dull), just less of it, and I'm not keen on counterweights to smooth out motors, in principle. ...I better make my own (Ducati)!
I dont think it was mentioned but i believe it has hydraulic tappets no adjustment required pretty much just change the oil every 5000 miles.
Oh right - I didn't realise that - nice!
I am still waiting for your review of the H-D Pan America. I test rode one last year and loved it. It feels nothing like a typical American V-twin. I would also love to see you do a full review of the Indian FTR 1200, especially now that you can get one with a 17” front wheel.
I have riden the FTR 1200 but so far my requests to HD for a go on the Pan America have yielded no fruit! Maybe next year!
@@TheMissendenFlyer all you can do is ask. Have their been Pan American reviews in the UK? There have many of them in the US and Europe.
Yes it seems pretty much everyone elese has ridden them here, just me that can't get my hands on one!
BAZINGA!
That display is the best I think I’ve ever seen
It's up there with the best for me (on this style of bike defo the best)
Regarding the bike's horsepower, I found some dyno runs online showing the Thunderstroke 116 with over 100 hp, but those were all engines modified with big bore kits, hot cams, and the like; couldn't find one on a stock 116. However, I found several runs on stock Thunderstroke 111 motors that came in at 75 hp, so likely its bigger brother would produce 80-ish hp in stock form, give or take.
Sounds about right….
Nice review as usual, who would have thought an Indian would have a Native American sat nav? I’d love to go to Crazy Horse to look at one but it’s Suffolk of a long way to go for me.😋
Thanks for watching as ever Nigel!
I love the look of these kind of bikes, along with the Fat Bobs, and the new Sportster S from Harley. But Euro restrictions have killed them for me, they just don't sound like they look? so the very 1st thing you have to do is spend another £1000 on a decent exhaust, even then it's just not the same noise as the older American cruisers. Also that rear brake reservoir looks very odd in that location don't you think! 😂
RE have managed to make a nice sounding exhaust on the Meteor and Classic 350 within emission rules so it can be done.
Yes I agree the sound could do with a bit of a tweak.....what's there sounds nice, just could be a little bit louder.
Even though a video you can feel how smooth and sturdy that bike is
Hi Andy,Cracking video of this American classic which I much prefer over the Harley but I’m sticking with my faithful Yamaha XV 750 Virago.
Any chance of doing a video on the Virago?
No current plans Simon but you never know! Stay tuned....
Great review Andy. Interested to hear you describe yourself as a Norfolk lad, did you grow up there? I spent my school years there and now ride in Suffolk and Norfolk. There are some great roads in both when you know them, particularly thinking of the North Norfolk coast road.
Funnily enough I just got back from near Cromer yesterday.....and yes, I grew up in South Norfolk (Long Stratton)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer. Try the Cromer to Hunstanton Road sometime, I'm sure you'd enjoy it. 👍. BTW, I know Long Stratton well. If you ever get the chance there's an Great bike meet every Tuesday night at The Ox & Plough, Old Buckenham called Two Wheel Tuesday. On a summer evening there can be 900 - 1100 bikes there, huge variety as well as good food. Combine with a Geoff and Dan or come with Bruce for a great night. 😁👌🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️🏍️
....I shall be at Old Buck on Saturday for the airshow as it happens....
If you hadn't already planned on it, you should do a video with your thoughts on the differences between the Harleys and Indians that you have ridden.
Good idea!
I have an FTR1200S and it's a fantastic bike. It's so comfortable, I can be on it for hours without any grumbling. It's so torquey you can cruise about in low gears with no hassle and it goes like stink when you wind it up. If it weren't for the small fuel tank and lack of proper luggage options it'd be good for big tours because of the comfort. As it is, I take it out for weekend looning and have an ADV for longer distances.
Sounds like a good combo to me!
I test rode one and loved it. Worried about the fuel consumption though
I'm 5ft 10 and 190 pounds. WOULD THE FTR fit me ok?
@@mikeessary4925 I'm sure it would. I'm 5ft 11 and 210, so similar.
@@marwood1969 thank you
Nice to see you doing some more cruiser testing.
Riding modes on this sort of machine is naff....
Exhaust looks hideous but easily changed, if expensive with tune etc.
You'd get used to forwards if you rode more bikes with them on.
Single disc up front is crap agree too.
Hd better old school modern mix, and seem to retain their values more.
Safe rides mate 🏍
For some reason, as a genersl rule, so far I seem to prefer Indian's over Harley's - perhaps I just like being awkard!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer 😂😂😂
Yes maybe!.
The styling on some of the Indians put many off inc myself.
Tis individual taste though.
Sound wise … lawnmower comes to mind … love the Indians tho.. exhaust change over but not straight through, make it a little less anemic