@@Nysdaddy I mean I can look at wilt and say he's far more of a physical, offensive and defensive threat than Jordan ever could be imo...sure mjs moves were prettier...but I look at wilt and what he did awe
Note also he's the only player aside from Magic who managed to avg. over 11 assists per game in the finals showing that he was a great facilitator as well.
To be fair, he should not have averaged that many assists in a finals series where he was against a Lakers squad that had no Michael Cooper, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, and Pat Riley. A Lakers squad where the 2nd and 3rd best players were injured.
@@MistahUnknown what do you mean “shouldn’t have”? Genuine question. Like he should’ve just focused on scoring himself cuz their best players i.e. the ones with the best chance of stopping him were out?
He was fundamentally sound across the court .. he excelled at some aspects of the game more than others but he had zero weaknesses, including mentally, in fact that was his greatest strength, and could simply do *everything* and left it all out there on the court
he had a few weaknesses, infact one crucial weakness that if he wouldnt adapt to todays game he wouldnt even be a top 20 likely, shooting, by far the worst weakness he had, he cant shoot 3s he's averages are mediocre at 32%, and it would be even LOWER if the league didnt make the 3pt line closer while he was in his prime, if you remove those years hes averages would be 28.8% from 3, thats god awful %...
@@semyongalitsky9593this is all wrong. He would easily adapt and dominate this game. If the game is much more loose, Jordan now has more freedom. Simple as that. And his 3 pt scoring is similar to that of lebron. And if you think shooting 3s is the only way to dominate in today's game you're just trolling.
@@Black-mx3hc lebron is a by far better 3pt shooter than mj bruh, he is having a rough season right now in terms of 3pts but his career average is way better than mj's, and last season he was insane, shooting at over 40%, mj doesnt come close to that, lebron even had better shooting season than curry last season... he had a game shooting 9 / 10 from 3... but you are right mj would deff adapt to today's game but i still think 3s would not be his thing regardless of what era he is in
3s are not the only thing u need today. Look at SGA and his middy game still MVP caliber. Chucking 2s and drives to the basket reminiscent of MJ. Still a great dominant player. Jordan would excel today just like he would in any Era.
@@semyongalitsky9593 he didnt need to shoot 3s in the 90s thats not how the game was played back then, but if he wanted to he could and very easily. By the way, defense wins games and MJ was far superior at D than Lebron
People seriously don't understand how much better defensively jordan was Also his off ball movement is completely under rated, way better for a team then a one man engine
Most steals in a season #1 Jordan 88' 259(lead league) #2 Jordan 87' 236 #3 Jordan 89' 234 #4 Jordan 90' 227(lead league) #5 Jordan 91' 223 #6 Jordan 93' 221(lead league) #7 Jordan 85' 196 #8 Jordan 92' 182 #9 Jordan 96' 180 #10 LeBron 05' 177 #11 Jordan 98' 141 #12 Jordan 97' 140 #13 LeBron 08' 138 number of times leading the league Jordan 3 LeBron 0 number of times in the top 5 Jordan 9 LeBron 2 number of times in the top 10 Jordan 9 LeBron 5 Jordan is tied for the NBA record for most seasons with 200 steals or more with 6. Jordan holds the NBA record for most seasons with 180 steals or more with 9. LeBron has never had a season with 180 steals. Most steals per game in a season #1 Jordan 88' 3.158(leads league) #2 Jordan 89' 2.888 #3 Jordan 87' 2.878 #4 Jordan 93' 2.833(leads league) #5 Jordan 90' 2.768(leads league) #6 Jordan 91' 2.719 #7 Jordan 85' 2.390 #8 Jordan 92' 2.275 #9 LeBron 05' 2.212 #10 Jordan 96' 2.195 #11 Jordan 86' 2.055* #12 LeBron 12' 1.854 #13 LeBron 08' 1.84 #14 Jordan 95' 1.764 #15 Jordan 98' 1.719 Number of times leading the league Jordan 3 LeBron 0 Number of times in the top 5 Jordan 8 LeBron 2 Number of times in the top 10 Jordan 9 LeBron 6 *Jordan was put on a minutes restriction by the Bulls. He put up 3.0 steals per 36 minutes. LeBron's best steals per 36 minutes for a season is 1.9 in 05'. Jordan is tied for the NBA record for the most seasons averaging over 2 steals per game with 10. Most steals in a game Jordan 10 (1 time) Jordan 9 (2 times) Jordan 8 (8 times) Jordan 7 (6 times) LeBron 7 (1 time) Jordan 6 (26 times) LeBron 6 (9 times) Jordan 5 (62 times) LeBron 5 (26 times) Jordan 4 (125 times) LeBron 4 (78 times) Jordan 3 (225 times) LeBron 3 (170 times) Lebron's career high for steals in a game is 7, and he only accomplished this once. Compare this with Jordan holds the NBA record for most games with 8 or more steals with 11. Jordan also has the 2nd most steals in a half with 8. Jordan's career high for steals in a game is 10. Career steals per game Jordan 2.345 LeBron 1.538 NBA all-time rank Jordan 3rd LeBron 73rd Most blocks in a season #1 Jordan 88' 131(14th in league) #2 Jordan 87' 125(16th in league) #3 LeBron 09' 93 #4 Jordan 91' 83 #5 LeBron 08' 81 Jordan has the most blocks in a season by a guard. Jordan also has the 2nd most blocks in a season by a guard. Most blocks in a season 1 Jordan 88' 131(14th in league) #2 Jordan 87' 125(16th in league) #3 LeBron 09' 93 #4 Jordan 91' 83 #5 LeBron 08' 81 #6 LeBron 10' 77 #7 Jordan 92' 75 #8 LeBron 18' 71 #9 Jordan 85' 69 #10 LeBron 13' 67 #11 LeBron 06' 66 #12 Jordan 89' 65 #13 Jordan 93' 61 #14 LeBron 22' 59 #15 LeBron 04' 58 Jordan has the most blocks in a season by a guard. Jordan also has the 2nd most blocks in a season by a guard. Most blocks per game in a season #1 Jordan 88' 1.597(16th in league) #2 Jordan 87' 1.524(17th in league) #3 Jordan 86' 1.166 #4 LeBron 09' 1.148 #5 LeBron 08' 1.08 #6 LeBron 22' 1.053 #7 LeBron 10' 1.013 #8 Jordan 91' 1.012 #9 Jordan 92' 0.937 #10 LeBron 13' 0.881 #11 LeBron 18' 0.865 #12 Jordan 85' 0.841 #13 LeBron 06' 0.835 #14 LeBron 12' 0.806 #15 Jordan 89' 0.802 Jordan has the most blocks per game in a season by a guard. Jordan also has the 4th most blocks per game in a season by a guard. Most blocks in a game Jordan 6(1 time) Jordan 5(5times) LeBron 5( 2 times) Jordan 4(20times) LeBron 4(9 times) Jordan 3(72 times) LeBron 3(61 times) Most STOCKS(steals+blocks) in a season Jordan 88’ 390 Jordan 87’ 361 Jordan 91’ 306 Jordan 89’ 299 Jordan 93’ 282 11.99 Jordan 90’ 281 Jordan 85’ 265 Jordan 92’ 257 LeBron 09’ 230 LeBron 05’ 229 Jordan 96’ 222 LeBron 08’ 219 LeBron 10’ 202 LeBron 13’ 196 LeBron 06’ 189 LeBron 04’ 188 LeBron 18’ 187 Jordan 98’ 186 Jordan 97’ 184 LeBron 07’ 180 Jordan from 87'-93’ averaged 310.857 STOCKS per season. That is 35.155% more than LeBron's career high.
*TIRING ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR JORDAN THAT'S WHAT MAKES ALL OF HIS PLAYING TIME SPECIAL, MICHAEL JORDAN NEVER CHEATED THE GAME OF BASKETBALL OR HIS FANS EVERYTIME HE PUT ON A BASKETBALL GAME UNIFORM AND ALWAYS COMPETED AT HE'S HIGHEST LEVEL 😎💯🥇🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆*
When you research steals from before the mid70s you’ll see stockton and MJ are no longer all time goat impressive but still they are among the best and better than lbj obviously. Just understand the reality your stepping on when you use the term “greatest ever”though
@@RealLeBronJamesFitnessOfficialFacts!!! People think that saying MJ is the greatest diminishes other greats, it doesn’t!! It just means MJ sits at the top.
@@AndrewTaylorJr exactly. in today's world of everything being binary, folks cannot understand that you can compliment one person without that being a diss to another. and vice versa. it's pretty pathetic, really.
@@laz0rama 100 percent! I’ll put it this way, MJ is in the presidential suite on the top floor, but there are other greats in the same building he is in, and even a couple on the same floor as his. But his is the only presidential suite in the building. There may be some deluxe rooms and/or superior rooms, then the rest are regular rooms, but they’re in the same building at least.
It feels so bad that MJ's goat status which was unanimously GIVEN to him is being challenged by someone who's just TELLING the world he's the goat. This should never be the case. You can't tell the world you're the goat. It must be given to you. How? By exceeding what MJ has done on and off the Basketball court. That's the only way. Not by downplaying eras or players. Coz that was never the case until LeBron tried lowering down the standards to laughable levels such as scoring records, tournament cups, bubble ring, etc. Not even his age deserves a debate. Coz it's never about the longevity. It's about dominance. That's your body of work.
it's all about money. the nba won't gain more money by continuing to dwell in the past. that's why lebron is being forced on people as the goat by the media, even if he is clearly doesn't belong in the same conversation with the legends of the game.
He has created the mess that he is in by proclaiming himself something that he is not worthy of. He has only further illuminated the vast gap between himself and Jordan and also brought even more attention to Jordan. It was an effort that was failed from the start.
game 1 of the season, or game 7 of the finals, Michael always brought it. hence why he is 6-0 in the finals with 6 finals mvp awards and never played in a game 7 in the finals. oddly enough, too many people think a dude who is 4-6 in the finals and had to ring chase around the country is somehow better. MJ is the undisputed GOAT.
To be the Best you have to Beat the Best ... He's 0-6 against Larry Bird ... Larry Joe Bird is the Greatest All-Around Basketball Player we've seen ... MJ definitely better than Lebron, though ...
@@bryanfox6726 To be fair bird did have a stacked team. Jordan had a trash bulls team and overall cooked that team in 86. If his team had two other all stars the series might be very close.
@@mjthebasketballgoat-l6p No, you see, it's my point entirely ... Not Only was Bird a Better Shooter (from anywhere), and a Better Rebounder (against Moses, Kareem, Dawkins, Ewing, etc., etc.,), Not only a Better Passer ... and Need I Say ... Willing Passer? ... and By Far the Greatest Factor is Floor General / Making Everyone (on both teams) ... Better ... Literally, with the Magic Man ... Saved the NBA ... (would be no MJ, no KD, no Steph ... ) ... as Players and Fans ... do you wanna play Chess or Checkers? My Team Starts with Larry Bird & Hakeem Olajuwon ... along with West, Baylor & Wilt 'cause there's no solution to any of your Problems ...
Don't forget that besides the Defense, Steals, Blocks, Passing, Leadership, he is also the GOAT CLUTCH player of ALL TIME!!! As for Defense, he is one of the GOATs. Simple fact is, if he averaged 4ppg and played the exact same way on Defense, he would get alot more credit!!!! But most only see Offense.
The Jordan Vs. LeBron video by DangerProductions really put this in context when he compared the two's per-game stats relative to position (MJ as SG and LeBron as SF). In all five major statistical categories (scoring, steals, assists, rebounds, blocks) MJ is top 3 among SG's. LBJ by comparison isn't even top 10 in all 5, with both his steals and blocks falling outside the top top and his steals just BARELY breaking top ten. Jordan was also top 10 in FG%, and one has to realize that 49.7% overall is exceptional as a perimeter guard, most of the all-time great SG's don't even come close to hit 50% from the field because the shots they are expected to take don't have as much of a success rate as the big men closer to the rim. The only reason MJ's FG% dropped in his later years was because he had to take more jumpers due to declining athleticism, and his overall efficiency was still very high as a perimeter player.
his efficiency was only good INSIDE the perimeter outside of it he isnt even a top 100 in history his 3pt % was 32% which is mediocre at best but even worse if the league didnt make the 3pt line closer while he was in his prime his actual career % is 28.8 from outside the perimeter, thats just plain bad for reference, the worst shooters in the league today, are the centers, shooting at exactly 32.6, mj doesnt even come close to a good 3pt shooter he doesnt even shoot close to the worst shooters today
@@semyongalitsky9593 I never mentioned 3-point shooting. Your response makes no sense in the context of my post, and regardless his overall efficiency was still incredibly high as an SG, leading the league in scoring 10 ten times while attempting less than 2 3-point shots per game on average.
@@TKDBoy1889 my response makes alot of sense you just clearly dont know what a perimeter player is. its the one thing mj was not good at, the average center in todays game is a better perimeter player than prime mj and thats supported by facts his shooting outside the perimeter was awful and therefore he was never a good perimeter player. just acknowledge the fact that your goat was never complete and had flaws, so big of flaws that if today he didnt try and fix them well, he would be a roleplayer, probably playing at the SF as well.
Jordan is one of only four players to make first team all defense nine times and won player of the year on defense once. We also have to remember that he took two years off in his prime to play baseball so he probably would have had eleven selections had he been playing plus he was still the best player in the NBA in 98 at age 34. He's clearly the best offensive player in history and there is an argument that he might very well have been the best defender also which is insane with the offensive load he carried.
Aside from being a great scorer and defender, I loved his mentality, and his psychological aspect. He was never going to be bullied, after they got past Detroit. New York tried the same thing, but that wasn't going to work. I remember Xavier McDaniel trying to bully Scottie, and Jordan getting in between. Bumping heads with the stare down.
Well it only took Lebron 21 seasons to pass MJ in total offensive rebounds and the media wants to consider him the best. Also you got to consider how they say he is bigger and stronger but yet he needs those additional seasons. That right there puts the favor clearly to Jordan.
The grit, determination, heart and love of the game not to mention his dedication to his team's overall success is why Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time. Bill has his rings during the genesis of the NBA, Kareem was a great showman for a big man. His touch on the game is still remembered with respect. Magic Johnson had flash and flair. Dr. J had pizzazz. Larry Bird had heart. Isiah Thomas had grit. Michael Jordan had all of that and more.
There’s no valid argument against JORDAN he was literally great at almost everything and the heart of a mad man and anyone that’s up there with JORDAN as far as numbers go has played 20 years or more..JORDAN did it in 15 years with 2 retirements…take away the rings and he’s still the best the basketball world has ever seen….
MJ was just great at EVERYTHING on the basketball court. He's the only player I ever watched and kept thinking "Is there anything this guy doesn't do exceptionally well?" And the answer always turned out to be "No". There was no weakness in MJ's game, and he had a motor that never quit. Whenever anyone said MJ wasn't good at something, he would do his "And I took it personal" thing and prove them wrong. My favorite was when people had the audacity to say Clyde Drexler might be a better shooter and therefore a better player than MJ. MJ took it personal, then went out and set the then record for 3-pointers in a Finals game (The "Shrug" Game). Then there's the Flu Game. And then his last Finals game which he ended with probably the best defense to offense sequence in NBA history when he stripped the ball from Karl Malone then went down to the other end, juked Brian Russel out of his shoes, then calmly sank the game-winning shot for his 6th ring. If ANY single play could make someone the "Greatest of All Time", it would be THIS play, not some chase-down block/goal tend that didn't even win the series for his team. When someone greater than MJ comes along, we'll see it with our own eyes, just like we saw MJ's greatness with our own eyes.
MJ's greatness speaks against just him. The dude was so great and so dominant that we his fans..and even his non-fans take it for granted. He made greatness look ordinary
I didn't really know about the rebounding number. I remember 1 game when Rodman was missing and he pulled double digits in rebound and said he had to because Rodman was absent. So basically he didn't have to rely on that part of his game because he had an HOF rebounder for the second 3 peat. Also .. Steph curry, Kwahi Leonard, Dirk Norwitzki? Just too many times when Lebron was not even the best player on the court. Honestly they are both great but MJ was the more dominant player .. both sides of the court.
I like his passing because he moved the defence all over the place created lot of open looks for teammates. Offensive rebounding was very good considering how much he was doing on defence.
Me and a buddy of mine had a discussion with a Jordan hater today...lol. I couldnt' believe the stuff this man was aying considering he was an older guy. But every argument was full of emotion and didn't have anything to do with Mike's game. We tried to refocus him, but it didn't work. I am going to link him this vid and see what he says. These MJ haters are super sad...lol! Mike did things that will NEVER show up on a stat chart...unlike that "other" NBA superstar.
Bro what? 😂 Lebron did things that will never be surpassed either. I agree MJ is the goat, but it depends on what you value. It’s Peak vs Longetivity. Argue all you want nobody anytime soon will be playing as well as Lebron at 40.
The way he saw the game. You can tell he had a demeanor to win and not just “play for fun”. Listen to how he talked about the game. How many players said “I don’t play conservatively”. So he’ll go all out on defense. And he was always locked in even in a loss or bad game. He might of not got the job done in a series at times but it wasn’t because he choked. He took his losses and came back competitive and competing again and again. It’s not easy to have a target on your back and win consecutive finals. There’s a saying. “The wolf at the bottom of the mountain is hungrier than the wolf at the top”. In MJ’s case, once he got to the top his hunger grew even more. And the clutch moments and performances in his finals are proof of that. You can’t say it was weak competition because his opponents had 55-60+ regular season wins in the finals.
For the man who calls himself the GOAT (LeBron) and leads all players in total points going into another season, MJ has a huge lead in Scoring Titles and he absolutely kicked LeBron, Bird, Kareem & Magic's ass! (I'm trying to make a point without typing any numbers or stats) The content creator mentioned prove Jordan is the GOAT without scoring stats and that's what I'm trying to do.
Bulls made the playoffs EVERY year he was in a Bulls uniform after being mostly cellar dwellers before and after he left. MJ didnt lose 3 games in a row for almost a decade including the playoffs. As a SG he's averaged the most Assists in a Finals series besides Magic and he did this AGAINST Magic in 1991. When MJ came back from his broken foot and playing on a minutes restriction he had, what was it, 11 Triple Doubles in 22 games AT THE PG POSISTION! Retired at his peak, changed his body for baseball, came back rusty, and still averaged 26 ppg. The very next year his team went 72-10 and won the Championship. Seriously I could keep on going but these are just the things that popped up in my head first.
I believe that the greatest two way player of all time is Hakeem but Jordan is right there. Anyway Jordan is the GOAT also because he was a great leader who lead by the example and always raised his game when you need it the most. Another important aspect of his game is that he played in the flow of the offense without dominating the ball and when he had the ball in his hands his decisions were quick and decisive.
Exactly. MJ didn't do any of that "dribbling the air out of the ball" nonsense you see in today's game. MJ could be as flashy as anyone, but he was never flashier than he needed to be to score. MJ was never trying to show-off, just win the game. Compare that to today's "Check my Stats" players of today...
All the greatest centers besides Hakeem were greater two way players than Jordan. They weren't perimeter defenders-- they shut down the paint and protected the rim-- and could score like Jordan but at a higher efficiency. So Wilt, Kareem and Hakeem (probably Shaq too) were doing what Jordan could not do, needing another player to do it (the interior defense and defensive rebounding). How wasn't Jordan 'dominating' the ball when he led the league in usage rate 8x, was 2nd another 3x, and has the highest career usage rate all-time in the regular season, and 2nd all-time in the playoffs? Also leading the league in most shots taken (and most shots missed!) almost every season.
@@phillipschuman4307 Shaq wasn't a top tier defensive center, definitely not on Hakeem, Wilt or Robinson level. Now obviously Jordan could not do the job of a center but basically no center can do on the perimeter what Jordan can do. Jordan is a great shot blocking guard by the way. Do you wanna Jordan do also the job of a center? Cmon lol. It's easier for a center be a good/great two way player by way and even if usually a great center is more efficient than a guard Jordan ts% was up there with the best offensive centers ever. Now to the ball dominant part, do you realize that usage rate is not directly correlated to that? Jordan shot a lot but always in the flow of the Triangle offense, he was a play finisher but not nearly as ball dominant as players like Doncic, Harden, Westbrook or even Lebron.
@@sergioa.9695 Thanks for mentioning DR, who is another great defending two way playing center who could score a lot, with more two-way impact than Jordan. Obviously Shaq is not at their level, but he wasn't a bad defender. He made some all-defense teams, and was usually in the top ten for blocks per game (8x top 6, with 2nd once, 3rd twice, and a 4th). Plus he intimidated players by 'touching them up' if they came inside. Usage rate is the percentage of his team's possessions ended by his shot, his turnover, or a shot taken from his passes. Of all those things, they mostly ended with him taking a shot (and a lot of those were isos on his part).
@@phillipschuman4307Sure great defensive centers especially in that era had more impact than a perimeter players defensively. Still Jordan was an incredible two way player. High usage rate obviously most of the time indicate that a player dominate the offense with the ball in his hands a lot, not with Jordan. He touched the ball a lot and usually finished plays but never while hog or dribble the ball a lot. Obviously Bulls offense was mainly dependent on him scoring wise but that's not by default the definition of a ball dominant player.
The fact that MJ is undoubtedly the greatest basketball player ever is unquestionable! The fact that this ridiculous GOAT debate is still on going, is just ridiculous beyond belief. Seriously, this needs to STOP!
it's rediculous that people debate this subject. the only basketball player that could have a chance at stopping MJ is Wilt. but Wilt was so physically dominant that it's not fair. Wilt Chamberlain is the actual goat.
@nsant2321 Bird beat Jordan in the playoffs, not in a championship game! Shut your mouth! Steph beat Lebron in championship games! There's a difference!
@nsant2321 Because the playoffs are the testing ground, and yes, Jordan was knocked out of the playoffs several times but when it was all on the line like the finals, he's 6 and 0! Can Lebron say that. By the Lebron is 4 and 6 in the finals! That's not winning! That's a losing record! Jordan 100% in the finals! Lebron 40% in the finals! I'll take 100 over 40 any day of the week and twice on Sunday! You have no argument here!
@@bobfitten5792 playoffs are testing ground??? if anything the preseason is testing ground playoffs are where it all matters lebron on average has gotten farther than jordan has on the playoffs
Something i hate about stats is how context lacking they can be, for example, back in the 50s and 60s the tempo was insanely quick, and the shooting wasn't good, getting rebounds and blocks was "easier" because it provided with more opportunities, but they still had to fight for them. Nowadays on the 3 pt era, star players get 8 defensive rebounds a game without battling NOBODY but their own teammates, imagine staying under the basket, waiting for a failed 3 pointer, just to be compared in rebounds to players that were getting elbows to the ribs and being tossed up and down because there was actually opposition at the paint.
I've never watch mj in person but studied the game and watch highlights for many years watched LeBron whole career mj the goat 2 3 peats only been done by 2 teams 60 celtics and 2000s Lakers other than the bulls and he was best The best player on defense and offense never had a bad playoff series even when he lost had best prime ever he's the goat easily 🐐
There are a million YT videos like this, that do an outstanding job proving why MJ is the GOAT but very few that list the intangibles. -MJ was as clutch or greater than all of the other greats (Bird, Kobe etc) -MJ’s competitiveness is what fueled him to be the best on both sides of the ball -MJ never made any excuses, never complained about the quality of his teammates, never demanded a trade or a coaching change. -MJ played EVERY game he possibly could- sick, injured, banged up, tired. He played because he wanted his team to win and the fans paid money to see him play. -When the spotlight was the brightest and the pressure was at its highest, MJ ALWAYS rose to the occasion. -No other player has ever been more feared than MJ, because everyone else on the court knew he was the GOAT and everyone knew he was unstoppable. Players have never feared Lebron. -MJ is the GOAT because he completely transformed his game, halfway through his career. MJ entered the NBA as a high flying, athletic freak. Via a combination of speed, dexterity, quickness, agility and elevation- MJ was able to get around and elevate above any defender at will. But over time, his athleticism faded, so he had to completely alter his game. MJ packed on 15-20 pounds of muscle, developed an unstoppable fade, a post up game on par with anyone etc. Lebron’s game is basically the same as when he started, with slightly less athleticism and a slightly better jump shot. The only player to even come close to MJ is Kobe and I think even he’d acknowledge that MJ is still the GOAT. Lebron will never be the GOAT, Jokic on the other hand is SPECIAL. If he plays another 5+ years at this level, In terms of the greatest basketball player of all time (Minus the championships of course), he’s in a whole different category.
The deeper one goes when comparing MJ and LeBron the more you realize that there really is no comparison. Besides, LeBron isn't even top ten. No player who has more Finals losses than wins, has lost the most Finals games in NBA history, has committed the most turnovers in NBA history, missed the most field goals in NBA history as well as top ten in missed free throws and three pointers deserves to considered in the top ten of all time.
@@josipdolibasic4143 Just giving the LeBron fanboys a dose of their own medicine. They love to point out his career point total but ignore all of his other career "accomplishemtns".
Without using any numbers at all, I can say why he is the GOAT. He was FEARED more than any other player because of his abilities and talents, and tenacity and his will to win is unmatched.
Incredible IQ and his defense may be underrated. Like severely. Stockton Malone offense was incredible and both trips to the finals it was Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman defense that beat the Jazz. They perhaps are the greatest trio defenders in history. Not sure on defense if 1 was better than the others but all 3 were elite on defense. Wasn't even a Chicago fan. I was a Utah fan no other team could have done to prime Malone and Stockton what they did.
His skill set and ability to keep improving his game. It was like there were 3 different Michael Jordan's. 1. 84-90, freak of nature with strong fundamentals. 91-93 Showed he also had a good jump shot and became the best mid range shooter ever. 96-98 Proved he was still the GOAT, not as atheletic especiallyin the last 2 years but damn what a master. This is the one Kobe copied. Nobody could copy 84-90 Mike.
So how do you judge who is the goat? Logic tells you that you would go by accomplishments and accolades. that being the case, it would have to go to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. just his collegiate career alone, says it all
It's sad that when us, the people who were kids and teenagers in the 90's and saw MJ play, are gone because we know MJ won't get the respect and GOAT status that he EARNED. Hopefully the new generations will treat MJ's era as we treat Wilt and Bill's era's. We say that we never saw them play so can't compare them but in 2024 this isn't the case. The self-crowned king having a media empire is everything wrong with the game today and the ratings prove my point, if not the reason.
Jordan never quit on his team at any time in his career when the Bulls were losing a game or series, though he may had done too much to carry his Bulls teams to win against the Bird led Celtics, though he never won a single game against him. Jordan retiring first or second time doesn't mean he quit, he was more exhausted from attention or scrutiny he had, especially during his first retirement. Stats are meaningless to an extent when players play in different eras. But the leadership ability and ability to lead the team will never be different among eras, and Jordan had better leadership qualities, along with taking loss and accountability like a man. Though I'd think Tim Duncan or Bill Russell are better team leaders in NBA history to show leadership doesn't mean being the best and the leader all the time, Jordan was obsessed winner and annihilator to tell his opponents that he is better than his opponent at full strength. He is the ultimate competitor in team sport history.
Dude played 13 full seasons. In his 15 seasons, he missed almost two full seasons (85-86 and 94-95) [please correct me if I'm mistaking.] he played a grand total of 35 regular season games, combined. I can only imagine! WHAT IF...?
No stats at all. His competitiveness was unlike any human and Kobe tried it and got damn close, but Michael was built around it. There will never be another Michael unless someone is raised in a similar situation.
Well this may not mean much. But, "the glove" nickname of Gary Payton's. The first time I heard it was when Magic Johnson referred to Michael Jordan on the Dream Team.
And what's your point that just means more Talent came into the league like Penny Hardaway the guy they called the next Jordan before injuries took over or this big guy named Shaq oh so pretty sure that expansion team did beat the Bulls in 1995 playoffs not to mention every expansion team in the 80s and 90s head at one time two players on the roster the average 20 points per game pretty good for back then
MJ passes the eye test with flying colors! He had the most elegant and smoothest game ever. His game was beautiful to watch.
Many players pass the eye test tbh....dr.j , Kobe, Baylor, west, wilt, Hakeem, Duncan, LeBron etc...
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@Johnny…
Not to the point that one can see they are the best… as you knew of course.
@@JohnnyRodgers3Many players pass the eye test. But only 1 guy is the best. Something completely different with Jordan than all those guys.
@@Nysdaddy I mean I can look at wilt and say he's far more of a physical, offensive and defensive threat than Jordan ever could be imo...sure mjs moves were prettier...but I look at wilt and what he did awe
Note also he's the only player aside from Magic who managed to avg. over 11 assists per game in the finals showing that he was a great facilitator as well.
And he averaged more assists in his career than Scottie Pippen did in his career 😂 so much for getting fed and being selfish
To be fair, he should not have averaged that many assists in a finals series where he was against a Lakers squad that had no Michael Cooper, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, and Pat Riley. A Lakers squad where the 2nd and 3rd best players were injured.
@@MistahUnknown what do you mean “shouldn’t have”? Genuine question. Like he should’ve just focused on scoring himself cuz their best players i.e. the ones with the best chance of stopping him were out?
@@chrisfacchiano7356 His main defender was Byron Scott. You don't pass the ball when Byron Scott is guarding you. You cook him.
@@MistahUnknown gotcha
And the fact that he did all these in just 11 full seasons as a Bull.....
I watched Jordan play. Back then we cared so much about defense. He would have us cheering with his defense.
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FAAAACTS. Every movement he made was a movie I swear
He was fundamentally sound across the court .. he excelled at some aspects of the game more than others but he had zero weaknesses, including mentally, in fact that was his greatest strength, and could simply do *everything* and left it all out there on the court
he had a few weaknesses, infact one crucial weakness that if he wouldnt adapt to todays game he wouldnt even be a top 20 likely, shooting, by far the worst weakness he had, he cant shoot 3s he's averages are mediocre at 32%, and it would be even LOWER if the league didnt make the 3pt line closer while he was in his prime, if you remove those years hes averages would be 28.8% from 3, thats god awful %...
@@semyongalitsky9593this is all wrong. He would easily adapt and dominate this game. If the game is much more loose, Jordan now has more freedom. Simple as that. And his 3 pt scoring is similar to that of lebron. And if you think shooting 3s is the only way to dominate in today's game you're just trolling.
@@Black-mx3hc lebron is a by far better 3pt shooter than mj bruh, he is having a rough season right now in terms of 3pts but his career average is way better than mj's, and last season he was insane, shooting at over 40%, mj doesnt come close to that, lebron even had better shooting season than curry last season... he had a game shooting 9 / 10 from 3... but you are right mj would deff adapt to today's game but i still think 3s would not be his thing regardless of what era he is in
3s are not the only thing u need today. Look at SGA and his middy game still MVP caliber. Chucking 2s and drives to the basket reminiscent of MJ. Still a great dominant player. Jordan would excel today just like he would in any Era.
@@semyongalitsky9593 he didnt need to shoot 3s in the 90s thats not how the game was played back then, but if he wanted to he could and very easily. By the way, defense wins games and MJ was far superior at D than Lebron
People seriously don't understand how much better defensively jordan was
Also his off ball movement is completely under rated, way better for a team then a one man engine
So was Kobe that off the ball movement accounts for a lot of back door alleyopps give and go and back doors
Phil and his triangle offense had a lot to do with that
For me your legend is cemented when you’re playing at home and the guy guarding you is wearing YOUR SHOES TO DO IT!! 🙏🙏
Most steals in a season
#1 Jordan 88' 259(lead league)
#2 Jordan 87' 236
#3 Jordan 89' 234
#4 Jordan 90' 227(lead league)
#5 Jordan 91' 223
#6 Jordan 93' 221(lead league)
#7 Jordan 85' 196
#8 Jordan 92' 182
#9 Jordan 96' 180
#10 LeBron 05' 177
#11 Jordan 98' 141
#12 Jordan 97' 140
#13 LeBron 08' 138
number of times leading the league
Jordan 3
LeBron 0
number of times in the top 5
Jordan 9
LeBron 2
number of times in the top 10
Jordan 9
LeBron 5
Jordan is tied for the NBA record for most seasons with 200 steals or more with 6.
Jordan holds the NBA record for most seasons with 180 steals or more with 9. LeBron has never had a season with 180 steals.
Most steals per game in a season
#1 Jordan 88' 3.158(leads league)
#2 Jordan 89' 2.888
#3 Jordan 87' 2.878
#4 Jordan 93' 2.833(leads league)
#5 Jordan 90' 2.768(leads league)
#6 Jordan 91' 2.719
#7 Jordan 85' 2.390
#8 Jordan 92' 2.275
#9 LeBron 05' 2.212
#10 Jordan 96' 2.195
#11 Jordan 86' 2.055*
#12 LeBron 12' 1.854
#13 LeBron 08' 1.84
#14 Jordan 95' 1.764
#15 Jordan 98' 1.719
Number of times leading the league
Jordan 3
LeBron 0
Number of times in the top 5
Jordan 8
LeBron 2
Number of times in the top 10
Jordan 9
LeBron 6
*Jordan was put on a minutes restriction by the Bulls. He put up 3.0 steals per 36 minutes. LeBron's best steals per 36 minutes for a season is 1.9 in 05'.
Jordan is tied for the NBA record for the most seasons averaging over 2 steals per game with 10.
Most steals in a game
Jordan 10 (1 time)
Jordan 9 (2 times)
Jordan 8 (8 times)
Jordan 7 (6 times)
LeBron 7 (1 time)
Jordan 6 (26 times)
LeBron 6 (9 times)
Jordan 5 (62 times)
LeBron 5 (26 times)
Jordan 4 (125 times)
LeBron 4 (78 times)
Jordan 3 (225 times)
LeBron 3 (170 times)
Lebron's career high for steals in a game is 7, and he only accomplished this once. Compare this with
Jordan holds the NBA record for most games with 8 or more steals with 11.
Jordan also has the 2nd most steals in a half with 8.
Jordan's career high for steals in a game is 10.
Career steals per game
Jordan 2.345
LeBron 1.538
NBA all-time rank
Jordan 3rd
LeBron 73rd
Most blocks in a season
#1 Jordan 88' 131(14th in league)
#2 Jordan 87' 125(16th in league)
#3 LeBron 09' 93
#4 Jordan 91' 83
#5 LeBron 08' 81
Jordan has the most blocks in a season by a guard.
Jordan also has the 2nd most blocks in a season by a guard.
Most blocks in a season
1 Jordan 88' 131(14th in league)
#2 Jordan 87' 125(16th in league)
#3 LeBron 09' 93
#4 Jordan 91' 83
#5 LeBron 08' 81
#6 LeBron 10' 77
#7 Jordan 92' 75
#8 LeBron 18' 71
#9 Jordan 85' 69
#10 LeBron 13' 67
#11 LeBron 06' 66
#12 Jordan 89' 65
#13 Jordan 93' 61
#14 LeBron 22' 59
#15 LeBron 04' 58
Jordan has the most blocks in a season by a guard.
Jordan also has the 2nd most blocks in a season by a guard.
Most blocks per game in a season
#1 Jordan 88' 1.597(16th in league)
#2 Jordan 87' 1.524(17th in league)
#3 Jordan 86' 1.166
#4 LeBron 09' 1.148
#5 LeBron 08' 1.08
#6 LeBron 22' 1.053
#7 LeBron 10' 1.013
#8 Jordan 91' 1.012
#9 Jordan 92' 0.937
#10 LeBron 13' 0.881
#11 LeBron 18' 0.865
#12 Jordan 85' 0.841
#13 LeBron 06' 0.835
#14 LeBron 12' 0.806
#15 Jordan 89' 0.802
Jordan has the most blocks per game in a season by a guard.
Jordan also has the 4th most blocks per game in a season by a guard.
Most blocks in a game
Jordan 6(1 time)
Jordan 5(5times)
LeBron 5( 2 times)
Jordan 4(20times)
LeBron 4(9 times)
Jordan 3(72 times)
LeBron 3(61 times)
Most STOCKS(steals+blocks) in a season
Jordan 88’ 390
Jordan 87’ 361
Jordan 91’ 306
Jordan 89’ 299
Jordan 93’ 282 11.99
Jordan 90’ 281
Jordan 85’ 265
Jordan 92’ 257
LeBron 09’ 230
LeBron 05’ 229
Jordan 96’ 222
LeBron 08’ 219
LeBron 10’ 202
LeBron 13’ 196
LeBron 06’ 189
LeBron 04’ 188
LeBron 18’ 187
Jordan 98’ 186
Jordan 97’ 184
LeBron 07’ 180
Jordan from 87'-93’ averaged 310.857 STOCKS per season. That is 35.155% more than LeBron's career high.
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When you research steals from before the mid70s you’ll see stockton and MJ are no longer all time goat impressive but still they are among the best and better than lbj obviously. Just understand the reality your stepping on when you use the term “greatest ever”though
"No flop, no excuses just pure greatness. MJ GOAT!"
No knock to lebron, kobe or any others.. mj stands alone
I agree lebron
@@RealLeBronJamesFitnessOfficialFacts!!!
People think that saying MJ is the greatest diminishes other greats, it doesn’t!! It just means MJ sits at the top.
@@AndrewTaylorJr exactly. in today's world of everything being binary, folks cannot understand that you can compliment one person without that being a diss to another. and vice versa. it's pretty pathetic, really.
@@laz0rama 100 percent!
I’ll put it this way, MJ is in the presidential suite on the top floor, but there are other greats in the same building he is in, and even a couple on the same floor as his. But his is the only presidential suite in the building. There may be some deluxe rooms and/or superior rooms, then the rest are regular rooms, but they’re in the same building at least.
It feels so bad that MJ's goat status which was unanimously GIVEN to him is being challenged by someone who's just TELLING the world he's the goat. This should never be the case. You can't tell the world you're the goat. It must be given to you. How? By exceeding what MJ has done on and off the Basketball court. That's the only way. Not by downplaying eras or players. Coz that was never the case until LeBron tried lowering down the standards to laughable levels such as scoring records, tournament cups, bubble ring, etc. Not even his age deserves a debate. Coz it's never about the longevity. It's about dominance. That's your body of work.
it's all about money. the nba won't gain more money by continuing to dwell in the past. that's why lebron is being forced on people as the goat by the media, even if he is clearly doesn't belong in the same conversation with the legends of the game.
@@greywolf4784 that's bad marketing for the NBA and they don't see it
@@JustAWriter12 Unfortunately they don’t want to see it
@@greywolf4784, I'm pretty sure he enjoys it and trying to abuse it as well. In my opinion, he's a giant narcissist.
He has created the mess that he is in by proclaiming himself something that he is not worthy of. He has only further illuminated the vast gap between himself and Jordan and also brought even more attention to Jordan. It was an effort that was failed from the start.
BEST PERFORMER, BEST ATHLETE, BEST DEFENSE AND OFFENSE PLAYER THAT YOU WILL EVER SEE, HE BROUGHT HIS A GAME EVERY TIME HE STEPPED ON THE COURT
game 1 of the season, or game 7 of the finals, Michael always brought it. hence why he is 6-0 in the finals with 6 finals mvp awards and never played in a game 7 in the finals. oddly enough, too many people think a dude who is 4-6 in the finals and had to ring chase around the country is somehow better. MJ is the undisputed GOAT.
Jordan is the goat.
no doubt about it.
To be the Best you have to Beat the Best ... He's 0-6 against Larry Bird ... Larry Joe Bird is the Greatest All-Around Basketball Player we've seen ... MJ definitely better than Lebron, though ...
@@bryanfox6726 To be fair bird did have a stacked team. Jordan had a trash bulls team and overall cooked that team in 86. If his team had two other all stars the series might be very close.
@@mjthebasketballgoat-l6p No, you see, it's my point entirely ... Not Only was Bird a Better Shooter (from anywhere), and a Better Rebounder (against Moses, Kareem, Dawkins, Ewing, etc., etc.,), Not only a Better Passer ... and Need I Say ... Willing Passer? ... and By Far the Greatest Factor is Floor General / Making Everyone (on both teams) ... Better ... Literally, with the Magic Man ... Saved the NBA ... (would be no MJ, no KD, no Steph ... ) ... as Players and Fans ... do you wanna play Chess or Checkers? My Team Starts with Larry Bird & Hakeem Olajuwon ... along with West, Baylor & Wilt 'cause there's no solution to any of your Problems ...
Michael Jordan The Greatest The Goat 🐐 Of Basketball Period....!!!!!!!
2 3peats in an 8 year span while taking a break to play baseball in-between = 🐐
Don't forget that besides the Defense, Steals, Blocks, Passing, Leadership, he is also the GOAT CLUTCH player of ALL TIME!!!
As for Defense, he is one of the GOATs. Simple fact is, if he averaged 4ppg and played the exact same way on Defense, he would get alot more credit!!!! But most only see Offense.
The Jordan Vs. LeBron video by DangerProductions really put this in context when he compared the two's per-game stats relative to position (MJ as SG and LeBron as SF). In all five major statistical categories (scoring, steals, assists, rebounds, blocks) MJ is top 3 among SG's. LBJ by comparison isn't even top 10 in all 5, with both his steals and blocks falling outside the top top and his steals just BARELY breaking top ten. Jordan was also top 10 in FG%, and one has to realize that 49.7% overall is exceptional as a perimeter guard, most of the all-time great SG's don't even come close to hit 50% from the field because the shots they are expected to take don't have as much of a success rate as the big men closer to the rim. The only reason MJ's FG% dropped in his later years was because he had to take more jumpers due to declining athleticism, and his overall efficiency was still very high as a perimeter player.
his efficiency was only good INSIDE the perimeter outside of it he isnt even a top 100 in history his 3pt % was 32% which is mediocre at best but even worse if the league didnt make the 3pt line closer while he was in his prime his actual career % is 28.8 from outside the perimeter, thats just plain bad for reference, the worst shooters in the league today, are the centers, shooting at exactly 32.6, mj doesnt even come close to a good 3pt shooter he doesnt even shoot close to the worst shooters today
@@semyongalitsky9593 I never mentioned 3-point shooting. Your response makes no sense in the context of my post, and regardless his overall efficiency was still incredibly high as an SG, leading the league in scoring 10 ten times while attempting less than 2 3-point shots per game on average.
@@TKDBoy1889 my response makes alot of sense you just clearly dont know what a perimeter player is. its the one thing mj was not good at, the average center in todays game is a better perimeter player than prime mj and thats supported by facts his shooting outside the perimeter was awful and therefore he was never a good perimeter player. just acknowledge the fact that your goat was never complete and had flaws, so big of flaws that if today he didnt try and fix them well, he would be a roleplayer, probably playing at the SF as well.
They couldn't shoot that percentage with hand checking I'll bet
Jordan is one of only four players to make first team all defense nine times and won player of the year on defense once. We also have to remember that he took two years off in his prime to play baseball so he probably would have had eleven selections had he been playing plus he was still the best player in the NBA in 98 at age 34. He's clearly the best offensive player in history and there is an argument that he might very well have been the best defender also which is insane with the offensive load he carried.
Aside from being a great scorer and defender, I loved his mentality, and his psychological aspect. He was never going to be bullied, after they got past Detroit. New York tried the same thing, but that wasn't going to work. I remember Xavier McDaniel trying to bully Scottie, and Jordan getting in between. Bumping heads with the stare down.
Well it only took Lebron 21 seasons to pass MJ in total offensive rebounds and the media wants to consider him the best. Also you got to consider how they say he is bigger and stronger but yet he needs those additional seasons. That right there puts the favor clearly to Jordan.
And teammates let LeBron take the rebounds, while the opposing team has no one in the paint. MJ had to box out and earn his
He is bigger and stronger, though?
Then why he flop like a girl @@reign1594
Barkley had a statement like that, noting that LeBron still has fewer 30 pt games after all these years.
The grit, determination, heart and love of the game not to mention his dedication to his team's overall success is why Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time. Bill has his rings during the genesis of the NBA, Kareem was a great showman for a big man. His touch on the game is still remembered with respect. Magic Johnson had flash and flair. Dr. J had pizzazz. Larry Bird had heart. Isiah Thomas had grit. Michael Jordan had all of that and more.
There’s no valid argument against JORDAN he was literally great at almost everything and the heart of a mad man and anyone that’s up there with JORDAN as far as numbers go has played 20 years or more..JORDAN did it in 15 years with 2 retirements…take away the rings and he’s still the best the basketball world has ever seen….
Thank you!!
MJ was just great at EVERYTHING on the basketball court. He's the only player I ever watched and kept thinking "Is there anything this guy doesn't do exceptionally well?" And the answer always turned out to be "No". There was no weakness in MJ's game, and he had a motor that never quit. Whenever anyone said MJ wasn't good at something, he would do his "And I took it personal" thing and prove them wrong. My favorite was when people had the audacity to say Clyde Drexler might be a better shooter and therefore a better player than MJ. MJ took it personal, then went out and set the then record for 3-pointers in a Finals game (The "Shrug" Game). Then there's the Flu Game. And then his last Finals game which he ended with probably the best defense to offense sequence in NBA history when he stripped the ball from Karl Malone then went down to the other end, juked Brian Russel out of his shoes, then calmly sank the game-winning shot for his 6th ring. If ANY single play could make someone the "Greatest of All Time", it would be THIS play, not some chase-down block/goal tend that didn't even win the series for his team.
When someone greater than MJ comes along, we'll see it with our own eyes, just like we saw MJ's greatness with our own eyes.
Incredible video man, well put together and clear and concise for the uneducated. Thank you!
MJ's greatness speaks against just him. The dude was so great and so dominant that we his fans..and even his non-fans take it for granted. He made greatness look ordinary
I didn't really know about the rebounding number. I remember 1 game when Rodman was missing and he pulled double digits in rebound and said he had to because Rodman was absent. So basically he didn't have to rely on that part of his game because he had an HOF rebounder for the second 3 peat. Also .. Steph curry, Kwahi Leonard, Dirk Norwitzki? Just too many times when Lebron was not even the best player on the court. Honestly they are both great but MJ was the more dominant player .. both sides of the court.
I like his passing because he moved the defence all over the place created lot of open looks for teammates. Offensive rebounding was very good considering how much he was doing on defence.
For several years, Jordan was both the best scorer and toughest defender in the league.
Me and a buddy of mine had a discussion with a Jordan hater today...lol. I couldnt' believe the stuff this man was aying considering he was an older guy. But every argument was full of emotion and didn't have anything to do with Mike's game. We tried to refocus him, but it didn't work. I am going to link him this vid and see what he says. These MJ haters are super sad...lol! Mike did things that will NEVER show up on a stat chart...unlike that "other" NBA superstar.
How old was he? What were the things he said?
Bro what? 😂 Lebron did things that will never be surpassed either. I agree MJ is the goat, but it depends on what you value. It’s Peak vs Longetivity. Argue all you want nobody anytime soon will be playing as well as Lebron at 40.
@@GodspokenYT That's easy to do when you on roids and never play defense. Keep it moving.
The way he saw the game. You can tell he had a demeanor to win and not just “play for fun”. Listen to how he talked about the game. How many players said “I don’t play conservatively”. So he’ll go all out on defense. And he was always locked in even in a loss or bad game. He might of not got the job done in a series at times but it wasn’t because he choked. He took his losses and came back competitive and competing again and again. It’s not easy to have a target on your back and win consecutive finals.
There’s a saying. “The wolf at the bottom of the mountain is hungrier than the wolf at the top”. In MJ’s case, once he got to the top his hunger grew even more. And the clutch moments and performances in his finals are proof of that. You can’t say it was weak competition because his opponents had 55-60+ regular season wins in the finals.
when you're great, everyone tells you that you are...
when you're lebum, well... you do your best to tell everyone that you are...
Typically if you need to tell people that you’re the best, then you aren’t.
For the man who calls himself the GOAT (LeBron) and leads all players in total points going into another season, MJ has a huge lead in Scoring Titles and he absolutely kicked LeBron, Bird, Kareem & Magic's ass! (I'm trying to make a point without typing any numbers or stats) The content creator mentioned prove Jordan is the GOAT without scoring stats and that's what I'm trying to do.
MJ is the greatest of all time, lebron is not worth comparing to him.
I lost count as a kid how many times Mike made me cry as a kid in the 90s as a knicks fan but i had to admit it he was just the best to ever do it
Bulls made the playoffs EVERY year he was in a Bulls uniform after being mostly cellar dwellers before and after he left.
MJ didnt lose 3 games in a row for almost a decade including the playoffs.
As a SG he's averaged the most Assists in a Finals series besides Magic and he did this AGAINST Magic in 1991.
When MJ came back from his broken foot and playing on a minutes restriction he had, what was it, 11 Triple Doubles in 22 games AT THE PG POSISTION!
Retired at his peak, changed his body for baseball, came back rusty, and still averaged 26 ppg. The very next year his team went 72-10 and won the Championship.
Seriously I could keep on going but these are just the things that popped up in my head first.
Id take a great 2-way player who plays on the whole court than the pretending best all-around player who plays just half of the court 🤷
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Mike is the most complete player ever.
@@Nysdaddy yeah that two-way player im referring to is Mike
I know who you are thinking of, a lot of the time he isn't even playing half court, just standing around watching.😂
@@yournumberonepal im not thinking of LeRest and never will
I believe that the greatest two way player of all time is Hakeem but Jordan is right there. Anyway Jordan is the GOAT also because he was a great leader who lead by the example and always raised his game when you need it the most. Another important aspect of his game is that he played in the flow of the offense without dominating the ball and when he had the ball in his hands his decisions were quick and decisive.
Exactly. MJ didn't do any of that "dribbling the air out of the ball" nonsense you see in today's game. MJ could be as flashy as anyone, but he was never flashier than he needed to be to score. MJ was never trying to show-off, just win the game. Compare that to today's "Check my Stats" players of today...
All the greatest centers besides Hakeem were greater two way players than Jordan. They weren't perimeter defenders-- they shut down the paint and protected the rim-- and could score like Jordan but at a higher efficiency. So Wilt, Kareem and Hakeem (probably Shaq too) were doing what Jordan could not do, needing another player to do it (the interior defense and defensive rebounding).
How wasn't Jordan 'dominating' the ball when he led the league in usage rate 8x, was 2nd another 3x, and has the highest career usage rate all-time in the regular season, and 2nd all-time in the playoffs? Also leading the league in most shots taken (and most shots missed!) almost every season.
@@phillipschuman4307 Shaq wasn't a top tier defensive center, definitely not on Hakeem, Wilt or Robinson level. Now obviously Jordan could not do the job of a center but basically no center can do on the perimeter what Jordan can do. Jordan is a great shot blocking guard by the way. Do you wanna Jordan do also the job of a center? Cmon lol. It's easier for a center be a good/great two way player by way and even if usually a great center is more efficient than a guard Jordan ts% was up there with the best offensive centers ever. Now to the ball dominant part, do you realize that usage rate is not directly correlated to that? Jordan shot a lot but always in the flow of the Triangle offense, he was a play finisher but not nearly as ball dominant as players like Doncic, Harden, Westbrook or even Lebron.
@@sergioa.9695 Thanks for mentioning DR, who is another great defending two way playing center who could score a lot, with more two-way impact than Jordan.
Obviously Shaq is not at their level, but he wasn't a bad defender. He made some all-defense teams, and was usually in the top ten for blocks per game (8x top 6, with 2nd once, 3rd twice, and a 4th). Plus he intimidated players by 'touching them up' if they came inside.
Usage rate is the percentage of his team's possessions ended by his shot, his turnover, or a shot taken from his passes. Of all those things, they mostly ended with him taking a shot (and a lot of those were isos on his part).
@@phillipschuman4307Sure great defensive centers especially in that era had more impact than a perimeter players defensively. Still Jordan was an incredible two way player. High usage rate obviously most of the time indicate that a player dominate the offense with the ball in his hands a lot, not with Jordan. He touched the ball a lot and usually finished plays but never while hog or dribble the ball a lot. Obviously Bulls offense was mainly dependent on him scoring wise but that's not by default the definition of a ball dominant player.
regarding 'defense', 'i' JUST LOVE that 'i' NEVER REMEMBER Michael Jordan 'flopping' (M.J. 'really' played 'real' DEFENSE!)
The most defensive era was the 2000s... The 90s scored something like 6 more points a game.
The fact that MJ is undoubtedly the greatest basketball player ever is unquestionable!
The fact that this ridiculous GOAT debate is still on going, is just ridiculous beyond belief.
Seriously, this needs to STOP!
🛑 the MJ bullshit .. 🪦😈🎤= 👑👮🏾♀️🇺🇸🐐🙇♂️
it's rediculous that people debate this subject. the only basketball player that could have a chance at stopping MJ is Wilt. but Wilt was so physically dominant that it's not fair. Wilt Chamberlain is the actual goat.
Lebron can't do 1/8 of what Jordan could do! Don't forget, Steph gave Lebron a gentleman's sweep! Lebron isn't on Jordan's level! Period!
and bird gave jordan a regular sweep
@nsant2321 Bird beat Jordan in the playoffs, not in a championship game! Shut your mouth! Steph beat Lebron in championship games! There's a difference!
@@bobfitten5792 so how is losing in the finals worse than not even making it there
@nsant2321 Because the playoffs are the testing ground, and yes, Jordan was knocked out of the playoffs several times but when it was all on the line like the finals, he's 6 and 0! Can Lebron say that. By the Lebron is 4 and 6 in the finals! That's not winning! That's a losing record! Jordan 100% in the finals! Lebron 40% in the finals! I'll take 100 over 40 any day of the week and twice on Sunday! You have no argument here!
@@bobfitten5792 playoffs are testing ground??? if anything the preseason is testing ground playoffs are where it all matters
lebron on average has gotten farther than jordan has on the playoffs
Something i hate about stats is how context lacking they can be, for example, back in the 50s and 60s the tempo was insanely quick, and the shooting wasn't good, getting rebounds and blocks was "easier" because it provided with more opportunities, but they still had to fight for them. Nowadays on the 3 pt era, star players get 8 defensive rebounds a game without battling NOBODY but their own teammates, imagine staying under the basket, waiting for a failed 3 pointer, just to be compared in rebounds to players that were getting elbows to the ribs and being tossed up and down because there was actually opposition at the paint.
MJ worked his ass off
I've never watch mj in person but studied the game and watch highlights for many years watched LeBron whole career mj the goat 2 3 peats only been done by 2 teams 60 celtics and 2000s Lakers other than the bulls and he was best The best player on defense and offense never had a bad playoff series even when he lost had best prime ever he's the goat easily 🐐
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great stuff my man
You did a fantastic job on this video.
9 years without loosing 2 games in a row 🤯
There are a million YT videos like this, that do an outstanding job proving why MJ is the GOAT but very few that list the intangibles.
-MJ was as clutch or greater than all of the other greats (Bird, Kobe etc)
-MJ’s competitiveness is what fueled him to be the best on both sides of the ball
-MJ never made any excuses, never complained about the quality of his teammates, never demanded a trade or a coaching change.
-MJ played EVERY game he possibly could- sick, injured, banged up, tired. He played because he wanted his team to win and the fans paid money to see him play.
-When the spotlight was the brightest and the pressure was at its highest, MJ ALWAYS rose to the occasion.
-No other player has ever been more feared than MJ, because everyone else on the court knew he was the GOAT and everyone knew he was unstoppable. Players have never feared Lebron.
-MJ is the GOAT because he completely transformed his game, halfway through his career. MJ entered the NBA as a high flying, athletic freak. Via a combination of speed, dexterity, quickness, agility and elevation- MJ was able to get around and elevate above any defender at will. But over time, his athleticism faded, so he had to completely alter his game. MJ packed on 15-20 pounds of muscle, developed an unstoppable fade, a post up game on par with anyone etc. Lebron’s game is basically the same as when he started, with slightly less athleticism and a slightly better jump shot.
The only player to even come close to MJ is Kobe and I think even he’d acknowledge that MJ is still the GOAT. Lebron will never be the GOAT, Jokic on the other hand is SPECIAL. If he plays another 5+ years at this level, In terms of the greatest basketball player of all time (Minus the championships of course), he’s in a whole different category.
Do one on Kobe how he the baby goat and it's not about stats
his impact on the game is unique story
Anyone that says MJ isn’t the goat is delusional.
Well put my dude!!!! Nothing but FACTS!!!!!!
My guy even if you tried to use stats MJ owns the most accolades combined for scoring and all the other shit
The deeper one goes when comparing MJ and LeBron the more you realize that there really is no comparison. Besides, LeBron isn't even top ten. No player who has more Finals losses than wins, has lost the most Finals games in NBA history, has committed the most turnovers in NBA history, missed the most field goals in NBA history as well as top ten in missed free throws and three pointers deserves to considered in the top ten of all time.
The most shallow way looking at the stats is only using totals. I don't like LeChoke at all, but that's not the way to go about it
@@josipdolibasic4143 Just giving the LeBron fanboys a dose of their own medicine. They love to point out his career point total but ignore all of his other career "accomplishemtns".
@@Fernando-vg4ym its just that he plays longer. He is probably juiced up.
Lack of context
Without using any numbers at all, I can say why he is the GOAT.
He was FEARED more than any other player because of his abilities and talents, and tenacity and his will to win is unmatched.
MJ the The greatest player that was fun to watch any day any time.
Wow...such attention to details some never fathomed...!!
One thing i see all the time is how good his 88 season was, but his 87 season was more impressive to me.
Michael Jordan 🐐🐐🐐🐐 will always be the greatest basketball player ever
He truly is the goat!!!
Jordan defense!!!
MJ is The real GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
LeBum! Pathetic ....needs endorsement from family that he is the GOAT! Cringeworthy....
I thought Laettner’s lasting impression of Jordan was him screaming “Dunk that s**t, Chris.”
Incredible IQ and his defense may be underrated. Like severely. Stockton Malone offense was incredible and both trips to the finals it was Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman defense that beat the Jazz. They perhaps are the greatest trio defenders in history. Not sure on defense if 1 was better than the others but all 3 were elite on defense. Wasn't even a Chicago fan. I was a Utah fan no other team could have done to prime Malone and Stockton what they did.
To me it's not about the stats, Kobe, Bron, etc... MJ just made everything look so good
What is his record against Larry Bird in the playoffs?
His skill set and ability to keep improving his game. It was like there were 3 different Michael Jordan's. 1. 84-90, freak of nature with strong fundamentals. 91-93 Showed he also had a good jump shot and became the best mid range shooter ever. 96-98 Proved he was still the GOAT, not as atheletic especiallyin the last 2 years but damn what a master. This is the one Kobe copied. Nobody could copy 84-90 Mike.
The Greatest player of all time
So how do you judge who is the goat? Logic tells you that you would go by accomplishments and accolades. that being the case, it would have to go to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. just his collegiate career alone, says it all
MJ: GOAT OF GOATS
It's sad that when us, the people who were kids and teenagers in the 90's and saw MJ play, are gone because we know MJ won't get the respect and GOAT status that he EARNED. Hopefully the new generations will treat MJ's era as we treat Wilt and Bill's era's. We say that we never saw them play so can't compare them but in 2024 this isn't the case. The self-crowned king having a media empire is everything wrong with the game today and the ratings prove my point, if not the reason.
Thank You for even more ammo :-)
Also Jordan never went to Diddy's party
for me Luka Doncic is my guy, but Michael Jordan is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME
looking good yeah
U start the vid with scoring stats
Jordan never quit on his team at any time in his career when the Bulls were losing a game or series, though he may had done too much to carry his Bulls teams to win against the Bird led Celtics, though he never won a single game against him. Jordan retiring first or second time doesn't mean he quit, he was more exhausted from attention or scrutiny he had, especially during his first retirement.
Stats are meaningless to an extent when players play in different eras. But the leadership ability and ability to lead the team will never be different among eras, and Jordan had better leadership qualities, along with taking loss and accountability like a man.
Though I'd think Tim Duncan or Bill Russell are better team leaders in NBA history to show leadership doesn't mean being the best and the leader all the time, Jordan was obsessed winner and annihilator to tell his opponents that he is better than his opponent at full strength. He is the ultimate competitor in team sport history.
Blah ! Blah ! Blah kockScasual Lebron is much better
GOAT
All the great players that came after him were inspired by him!
MJ = 🐐 = MJ
Dude played 13 full seasons. In his 15 seasons, he missed almost two full seasons (85-86 and 94-95) [please correct me if I'm mistaking.] he played a grand total of 35 regular season games, combined. I can only imagine! WHAT IF...?
No stats at all.
His competitiveness was unlike any human and Kobe tried it and got damn close, but Michael was built around it.
There will never be another Michael unless someone is raised in a similar situation.
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Some players playing 20+ years still don’t have more steals than 🐐 MJ
The scoring stats have never been his fans go to, the team accomplishments are.
He used to be the G.O.A.T.!
MJ GOAT
Well this may not mean much. But, "the glove" nickname of Gary Payton's. The first time I heard it was when Magic Johnson referred to Michael Jordan on the Dream Team.
Only thing MJ couldn't do is stop LeDiddy from FLOPPING.
Bro, Jordan is the goat, but you used a ton of stats to say it lol.
SIMPLY, THE GOAT!
beside that, it wasnt about stats like nowadays, what if he would have cared about high numbers
Teezo Touchdown - Too Easy.
LeBron the GOAT💯
Michael Jordan was one of the best but if it wasn't for the Michael Jordan rule he could be the goat
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the only reason some people don't think jordan is the goat is ignorance.
Mid night star ain't lied he is a freak a zode
The league was expanding
And what's your point that just means more Talent came into the league like Penny Hardaway the guy they called the next Jordan before injuries took over or this big guy named Shaq oh so pretty sure that expansion team did beat the Bulls in 1995 playoffs not to mention every expansion team in the 80s and 90s head at one time two players on the roster the average 20 points per game pretty good for back then
You think Jordan wouldn't be the best player on both sides of the court right now?
You trippin
Lebron is the most insecure prima dona making basketball pathetic nowadays.
Michael Jordan was Allen Iverson in Michael Jordan's body!