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@@ebolarnator1794did he tell her to go, or did he just teleport her to the TARDIS for Emergency Programme 1 without explaining? i can't specifically remember but i know he tricked Rose into the TARDIS for Emergency Programme 1, so I figure he could do the same for Donna
@@reubenmanzo2054 Yes, I remember that much, but my point was whether or not he explained that to Donna before *trying* to do the teleport or if he just did it
@@GDMendezWrites He says "We need to get back to the Tardis" as soon as he realises there's an infestation of Vashta Nerada in The Library. Which I'd say is a very rare occurrence with the Doctor. And with the teleport, he does trick Donna into it without her fully knowing what's going on.
Although it was eventually agreed that Hartnell had to go due to his declining health, I think a lot of people forget that it was his original portrayal of the character that captivated the general public and launched the popularity of the show through the roof. It's a shame to see how his incarnation has been treated in recent years, all this 'he's sexist' nonsense and Timeless Child crap undermining one of the greats.
I love how, with all that talk of how the Toymaker will come back and there will be other meetings, it feels like they were trying to set up a proper recurring villain, like the Master or the Daleks. That the Toymaker and the Doctor would be battling across the centuries. *Fifty years later* The Toymaker finally returns for his second TV appearance.
Hartnell’s Doctor seemed to be a bit less restrictive when it came to showing his companions how to work “the ship”, as he called the TARDIS. Earliest moment I can recall of this was in “The Rescue” when he taught Ian how to open the doors after Susan’s departure. Him and Ian also worked together to read the fault locator in “The Edge of Destruction”, which was the story that started The Doctor on their path to actually becoming the hero we know them as today…😅☺️😁
@@WarGrowlmon18 Yeah it's definitely rare in the Nu Who era. In the classic era there was Romana who could also operate it. Nyssa was able to use some functions on the console as far as I can recall. Could Zoe? I wouldn't be surprised if Zoe could. What about Adric? I know he did calculations for co-ordinates and stuff like that, but not sure if he actually used any of the console. I think Tegan could at least use the door control (I mean a big red lever in that era, pretty obvious to be fair!).
@@infiltrat0rn720Well Romana was another Time Lord so of course she could do it. The only ones that we've really seen do it in the more recent era are Clara and Yaz. Oh and River Song of course, but she was taught how to do it by the TARDIS itself. Clara is ironic because the TARDIS had hated Clara for so long, but it apparently got such an affinity for her that it allowed her to control the doors with only just a snap of her fingers, something that only the Doctor could do besides her. Notably, however, she was using the manual to help her on that other TARDIS and Yaz needed post-it notes to help guide her. I remember the fact that the Doctor tried to teach Donna how to do it, but I think that they were interrupted by Martha Jones calling them for help with the Sontarans. Maybe the Doctor's most recent companions have just not expressed much of an interest in learning how to fly it and we're just seeing the ones that have.
@@numberonedad camp is literally part and parcel of Doctor Who, just like Star Trek. You just accept the camp and enjoy it like a faire ride and don't try to treat it so seriously
"I made a jigsaw out of your history-- do you like it?" While it could refer to the Doctor's actual history, I feel like that could also be a tongue-in-cheek reference to the "lost history" of the original series.
Bringing back a character they've tried to bring back multiple times for an Anniversary Special seems like the best way to do it. Also love the cheesy effects of The Doctor moving the piece and The Toymaker's world exploding.
They actually planned to being him back in 1986 as part of the original plan for Season 23 before the 18-month hiatus and the shortening of that season. The story, called "The Nightmare Fair" was later given a Target novelisation and a Big Finish adaptation. It's actually set in Blackpool; at the end of "Revelation of the Daleks", the Doctor's line: "I'll take you to... [freeze frame, roll credits]" Was supposed to end with "Blackpool".
@@jarrodedson5441 It's a seaside town in the north of England. Full of arcades, tat shops, fish 'n' chip shops, things like an aquarium, a waxworks, there's Blackpool Tower which people go up to the top (it also has a ballroom), comedians like Ken Dodd performed there, there's an amusement park at one end, they have lights every autumn lining the streets, along with light diorama displays, and even light-up trams (one looks like a rocket!). In the 70s and 00s there was a Doctor Who Exhibition in Blackpool (and a Star Trek one when Discovery season 1 was out in the same building unit).
My favourite first doctor moments were when he was very excitable. Check out some of The Romans and he is so full on energy at certain points, it’s wonderful
I loved that he was so arrogant and stubbornly foolish in season one. By season three, he was far more personable, wiser, and younger. ~ And that was even before his first regeneration. Plus, I still love his attire. Always the noble gent. 😉
If you noticed in the trailer and clips from the giggle the toymaker changed his accent a few times. My guess is so the doctor doesn't try to use that way to beat him this time around
I was thinking the same thing. They're releasing it next year after the Toymaker has already returned. They should've prioritised it over some of the other animations
Such a great serial, it's so unfortunate the BBC deleted/got rid of most of the episodes from this serial. Can't wait to see the toymaker return tomorrow!
You can wipe a (both professional and domestic formats) tape or destroy a film reel, but yes deleted only became common in most circles with the advent of personal computers being common in homes.
it's interesting how way back then they set it up that at some point they would meet the toymaker again as he could come back at anytime and anyplace and create a new world of his own and yet he was never brought back until now. I also find it interesting that in the original he uses a more complex game yet in the new doctor who is two very simple games - i would have expected a game that would have taken the whole episode and a chase through time and space because both the games used require no witt or skill and were games of chance meaning the odds were more evenly matched rather than more in the toymakers favour.
I believe as the doctor was the challenger in the second game, he has the right to issue what game they played. The third game they played was after the Toymaker was flustered by the whole “oh god there are two doctors now”. I think he was a bit flustered from them being able to outwit him again that he defaulted to a game he had been teasing the doctor with before.
Back when I was in my teens (and RTD was in his 20s) The Celestial Toymaker was considered something of a 'lost classic' and I therefore wonder if there is a memory of that which is instrumental in the character being revived. Certainly, a mixture of faux and real nostalgia has seen the 1st Doctor era swing back into some sort of acclaim. And the politics in the background are obviously a part of that. What I mainly recall is reading the Target novelization as a schoolboy, with a boiled egg (we had chickens) and soldiers, at breakfast. Calmer days.
From the images I’ve seen it looks atrocious. There’s a guy on TH-cam who’s fan-animated one episode using AI. It’s classy and atmospheric and makes the official version look amateurish. I wish the BBC had bunged him a fair pay to do it for them.
I find it impossible to believe that Russell T. Davies of all people failed to see how imaginative and cool the concept of the Toymaker was until recently. This character has been begging to come back on screen since 1966.
@@benwasserman8223I'd still want to see the monk return, partly to get a break from the master and partly cause they're an interesting character as well. I've wanted them back ever since listening to resurrection of mars/damos and lucie miller/to the death, where he pushes the 8th doctor so far that he almost kills him in front of Susan and threatens to break the laws to time and rewrite history.
There are just so many characters, I don't understand why we have to fall on The Master every single time the script needs a villain that's on The Doctor's level. The Rani, The Monk, The Valeyard, The Toymaker, The Eleven- I'd love to see a whole Season with The Doctor and Master fighting each other in every episode, but each episode a new villain comes up to make a third faction, and just have a huge three-way chess match. It would literally be the best season ever by default even if it sucks.
@@carealoo744 The are licensing reason for why The Rani can never come back; apparently holders of the rights to her character are very uncooperative. There's a practical issue too; The Rani was basically a female Master, and the Master can be female now
@@xGOKOPx not really, she's a scientist with no morality, she's not interested in things like domination, only being able to do her experiments, which the doctor and timelords tend to disagree with cause they're normally highly immoral and using people as test subjects.
I hope they respect this portrayal of the Toymaker as a calculative villain instead of the havoc-y one seen in the previews, bridging the two believably into the same character.
I’ve always loved that about Steven. He’s someone who’s been through a whole heck of a lot and has seen a lot of friends die and doesn’t hesitate to do whatever he might have to to prevent that happening again. It’s a shame he’s so overlooked, he’s one of my absolute favorites and such a decent human being.
And with this the last piece that was missing in my mind about the 60s special was put in place. What was one of Hartnell's most famous features as the first Doctor? HIS GIGGLE!
The fact that “The Celestial Toymaker is a legendary god and one of the only people the Doctor cannot truly defeat, but most of what we know about him was burned in a fire” is a real statement that actually happened has to be one of the most Doctor Who Moments to ever happen during the production of this show.
I am so excited to see the latest incarnation of the toymaker! This enemy was unknown to me till the show started teasing him so it's gonna be an interesting time! Let the games begin!
The first of several immortal beings in Doctor Who. I read the novel as a kid, and of course we had Pt4 on the Hartnell Years' tape... I know there's been controversy around the term "celestial", but even if the rest of the story may be a little formulaic, I think it was a groundbreaking concept for the series. The previous season we had our first new Time Lord (not that we would hear that phrase for several more years), and then we get the Toymaker in S3. Amazing. Simply amazing. And yes, Hartnell was an amazing Doctor. I hope we get more colourised, abridged stories from his era, because ultimately that is the only way you will get the modern audience to pay attention. My kids grew up watching Tomb of the Cybermen, and all of them love it (and the other b&w Cyber stories), but they wont just sit down and watch other b&w WHO... It needs a drawcard, and The Daleks (2023 Colour) was a great way to do that.
Interesting how the Toymaker here offers the First Doctor power and wants him to join him in games across the universe, which the Doctor turns down, only for the Fourteenth Doctor to offer to have the Toymaker join him in "The Giggle" to play endless games across the stars, which the Toymaker turns down.
On Michael Gough returning as a timelord, I'm just going to assume Hedin faced the Toymaker, won but regenerated that the Toymaker cursed him with his face.
I think RTD brought the Toymaker out of obscurity/retirement for Doctor Who's 60th Anniversary because he saw Moffat do the same thing with the Great Intelligence in the lead-up to the 5oth. Either way, well played.
The development of the first doctor from a grouchy old man to alien grandad is wholesome to see. Really hope we get more of his adventures released on DVD/Blu Ray at some point.
With respect to the later actors who played the first Doctor, they don't hold a candle to Hartnell himself. Love the way he moves between grouchy and childlike excitement effortlessly. Amazing how they nearly replaced the ailing Hartnell in this story before making up his regeneration not long after. He still showed what he's got here.
Hartnell was ailing but not quite yet to the point of making his further continuance in the role impossible at that time. He and John Wiles, the then-producer, were on hostile terms and Wiles thought to use this story as a backdoor way to replace Hartnell with another actor while he was on break. The BBC management got wind of it and stopped that little machination dead in its tracks. However, despite the rancor between Wiles and Hartnell and Wiles and the BBC management, it did cause them to start considering the situation seriously and whether or not to choose a replacement actor, since it was obvious that the issue of Hartnell's health couldn't be ignored forever.
This had a beginning middle and end that any general audience could understand if they had just walked into this one scene. That’s not just good writing That’s good acting 🎭 They established the world Introduced the characters in the scene Demonstrated the problem Provided consequences so their were no easy way out Provided a solution that would eventually provide payback That is good storytelling 🎉🎉🎉
I love the exposed wheels of the TARDIS😂 they couldn't be bothered to give it a little skirt lol. This was a great scene. I really should watch the classic episodes.
It's not that they couldn't be bothered, it's just that there was no point. 60's episodes were never intended for massive screens with HD. They were made with 16- 20 inch TV screens in mind and never to be viewed again after broadcast. You would never have been able to see the flaws as you could today.
He’s appeared multiple times in the expanded universe, most notably in the Big Finish Sixth Doctor story The Nightmare Fair (adapted from a story for Colin Baker’s second season in the 80s, though it had to be abandoned at the time following the eighteen month hiatus).
He was due to make a come back in January 1986, in the 6th Doctor's era, in a story called 'The nightmare fair', pre-planning was done to shoot it at Blackpool's Pleasure Beach but the story never went into production because Dr Who itself was cancelled at that point. In 1989 it was published as a novel, and in 2009 adapted for a full cast audio by Big Finish, with The Toymaker being played by David Bailie, as Michael Gough who played the original one was in his 90's and had retired from acting.
He was intended to be in a fourth doctor story (The Eyes of Nemesis) and Sixth Doctor story (The Nightmare Fair) but failed to reach production. The Toymaker has appeared in stories in the extended media: The Magic Mousetrap, Solitaire, Endgame and Divided Loyalties from the top of my head.
The special effects here seem so simple today, but back then, it must have been great excitement for the viewers to see pieces floating through the air and those sounds when the world explodes... :)
Excited to see what tomorrow brings, but feel the story as a whole could be longer than the 50-60 minutes that I assume we'll have. Feel it's a story that is a multiple episode layer but see what we get I believe.
"I've walked in universes where the laws of physics where the laws of physics were devised by the mind of a madman"
I think that was Omega he was talking about then. It was in "The Three Doctors".
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@@LynxdomI mean that describes both of them and toymaker is even more of a madman.
@@jadenbryant9283 I don't know! I can think of more than a few people I want to turn into a pile of balls and I'm completely sane! ;)
I think he wasn’t just talking about the toy maker, but the master computer from the land of fiction Omega and the matrix from the deadly assassin
Oh wow in the teaser the Doctor told Donna “go back in the tardis” and she said “you’ve never told me to do that” what a great callback
What about in "Silence in the Library"?
@@ebolarnator1794did he tell her to go, or did he just teleport her to the TARDIS for Emergency Programme 1 without explaining? i can't specifically remember but i know he tricked Rose into the TARDIS for Emergency Programme 1, so I figure he could do the same for Donna
@@GDMendezWrites He tried, but the teleport bounced.
@@reubenmanzo2054 Yes, I remember that much, but my point was whether or not he explained that to Donna before *trying* to do the teleport or if he just did it
@@GDMendezWrites He says "We need to get back to the Tardis" as soon as he realises there's an infestation of Vashta Nerada in The Library. Which I'd say is a very rare occurrence with the Doctor. And with the teleport, he does trick Donna into it without her fully knowing what's going on.
"We can't stand and talk our way out"
And the Doctor realized that he could... and never stopped.
Steven didn't need to jump into the doctor's timestream to help every incarnation of the Doctor out. He did that with one inadvertent suggestion.
Michael Gough as the Toymaker terrified me as a child. I’d forgotten just how good William Hartnell was .
Exactly
He is the Original and no body or writer will change my mind on that there should be no Pre Hartnell Incarnations.
A veteran of Hammer movies, along with the next Doctor, Patrick Troughton.
He is just as creepy as I remember.
i remember in Proect: Lazarus Parts 3-4 when the doctor was a clone he could mimick everybody
Hartnell is just glorious in this scene isn’t he
He is absolutely on point here
Although it was eventually agreed that Hartnell had to go due to his declining health, I think a lot of people forget that it was his original portrayal of the character that captivated the general public and launched the popularity of the show through the roof. It's a shame to see how his incarnation has been treated in recent years, all this 'he's sexist' nonsense and Timeless Child crap undermining one of the greats.
He was brilliant 🥺
His yoda laugh and the little hand gesture when he says "you have been defeated" always make me laugh
@@SpencerCJ omg yeah 😂
1:24 “*giggles* You have been defeated!”
Iconic Hartnell moment
is that why the episode is called the giggle?
@@LegendaryXDartz Nah, he giggled like that all the time
Followed by "What have you done? Stop meddling with my shit!"
@@TenshiCat*ship lol
@@TenshiCatidk why but I prefer this over the actual script lol
I love how, with all that talk of how the Toymaker will come back and there will be other meetings, it feels like they were trying to set up a proper recurring villain, like the Master or the Daleks. That the Toymaker and the Doctor would be battling across the centuries.
*Fifty years later*
The Toymaker finally returns for his second TV appearance.
I hope we don't have to wait another 57 years to see him again.
I love how his companion there is able to pilot the TARDIS. You don't usually see that anymore.
Hartnell’s Doctor seemed to be a bit less restrictive when it came to showing his companions how to work “the ship”, as he called the TARDIS. Earliest moment I can recall of this was in “The Rescue” when he taught Ian how to open the doors after Susan’s departure. Him and Ian also worked together to read the fault locator in “The Edge of Destruction”, which was the story that started The Doctor on their path to actually becoming the hero we know them as today…😅☺️😁
@@christopheralthouse6378I'm just saying that it's so rare these days. I think that in the modern era only Clara and Yaz have been able to do that.
@@WarGrowlmon18 Yeah it's definitely rare in the Nu Who era. In the classic era there was Romana who could also operate it. Nyssa was able to use some functions on the console as far as I can recall. Could Zoe? I wouldn't be surprised if Zoe could. What about Adric? I know he did calculations for co-ordinates and stuff like that, but not sure if he actually used any of the console. I think Tegan could at least use the door control (I mean a big red lever in that era, pretty obvious to be fair!).
@@infiltrat0rn720Well Romana was another Time Lord so of course she could do it. The only ones that we've really seen do it in the more recent era are Clara and Yaz. Oh and River Song of course, but she was taught how to do it by the TARDIS itself. Clara is ironic because the TARDIS had hated Clara for so long, but it apparently got such an affinity for her that it allowed her to control the doors with only just a snap of her fingers, something that only the Doctor could do besides her. Notably, however, she was using the manual to help her on that other TARDIS and Yaz needed post-it notes to help guide her. I remember the fact that the Doctor tried to teach Donna how to do it, but I think that they were interrupted by Martha Jones calling them for help with the Sontarans. Maybe the Doctor's most recent companions have just not expressed much of an interest in learning how to fly it and we're just seeing the ones that have.
@@WarGrowlmon18 Nardole was also able to, but it is rare.
The Celestial Toymaker is such a menacing presence that he came back after 50 years
almost 60 years... this story aired in 1966.
He was supposed to be back in the 80's. #RealSeason23
@@Warriorcats64But he didn't, so it's still been 60 years since the last appearance.
@@HOTD108_depends if you count eu like comics books and audio books
@@hexogramd8430no one does
The Doctor beats the Toymaker by mimicking his voice. Is this why this new version of the Toymaker keeps switching accents?
Even if that's not true, I LIKE IT! And if it is true, that is an awesome catch.
Yes actually, as the same reason why he’s creating havoc as a form of distraction
Yeah, that's a good point.
I think you may be right
Bloody Hell, that's savvy! New headcanon, true or not!
"WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! STOP MEDDLING WITH MY SHIP!" Love the grouchiness of Hartnell
eh I like some of this show but it's starting to seem a little camp.
@@numberonedad Sometimes campiness can be part of the fun.
"Your infantile behaviour is beyond a joke."
@@numberonedad camp is literally part and parcel of Doctor Who, just like Star Trek. You just accept the camp and enjoy it like a faire ride and don't try to treat it so seriously
@@CallistaZM no kidding
Just want to point out that at 4:34 he's standing on the number "14". Funny how things work out.
Yes, it is, isn’t it?
Almost like he knew…😳😬😁
This proves that they’ve planned this since 1966 haha
@@christopheralthouse6378there have been references of the number 14 in the Tennant era also
Mainly in the Shakespearan Code episode. That's what I've remembered.
I would be really excited if in The Giggle is referenced that 3/4 parts of this serial are lost and its all because the Toymaker made them disappear
If the Toymaker was going to make anything disappear wouldn't it be the one in which he lost?😅
@@ClintBanditoTouche. Maybe thats why he returned: to finish the job and destroy the episode where he lost
"I made a jigsaw out of your history-- do you like it?"
While it could refer to the Doctor's actual history, I feel like that could also be a tongue-in-cheek reference to the "lost history" of the original series.
@@L0rdLexan01 Russell did himself comfirm this was a reference to conflicting continuities
Bringing back a character they've tried to bring back multiple times for an Anniversary Special seems like the best way to do it. Also love the cheesy effects of The Doctor moving the piece and The Toymaker's world exploding.
They actually planned to being him back in 1986 as part of the original plan for Season 23 before the 18-month hiatus and the shortening of that season. The story, called "The Nightmare Fair" was later given a Target novelisation and a Big Finish adaptation. It's actually set in Blackpool; at the end of "Revelation of the Daleks", the Doctor's line:
"I'll take you to... [freeze frame, roll credits]"
Was supposed to end with "Blackpool".
@@silenthunterukwhat's blackpool
Blackpool is seaside resort a Town in England known for its amusement park
@@jarrodedson5441
@@jarrodedson5441A town in England
@@jarrodedson5441 It's a seaside town in the north of England. Full of arcades, tat shops, fish 'n' chip shops, things like an aquarium, a waxworks, there's Blackpool Tower which people go up to the top (it also has a ballroom), comedians like Ken Dodd performed there, there's an amusement park at one end, they have lights every autumn lining the streets, along with light diorama displays, and even light-up trams (one looks like a rocket!).
In the 70s and 00s there was a Doctor Who Exhibition in Blackpool (and a Star Trek one when Discovery season 1 was out in the same building unit).
The fact that the toymaker went on to become ALFRED in the original Batman movie is baffling to me. I didn’t even recognize him
he was in a couple of hammer movies which is why tim burton hired him for batman and a few other of his films
@@MephProduction ohhhh snap
The 1989 Batman movie isn’t the original movie there was a Batman movie in 1966
Michael Gough, absolute legendary actor
@@surfwidow I’d like to think that the reason NPH’s Toymaker swapped accents was so the doctor couldn’t mimic his voice so easily.
He’s an icon. He’s a LEGEND. He is the moment. ( and a LEGEND for sure )
Well he is alfred.
No, Rose Tyler is the Moment😂
Seeing the Doctor as giddy as a schoolboy is amazing, and I can't wait for tomorrow night.
Yes RTD was right..he clearly was always gay
@@jonylawson73 If by "gay" you mean energetic, then yes.
My favourite first doctor moments were when he was very excitable. Check out some of The Romans and he is so full on energy at certain points, it’s wonderful
@@seanwade8188 Awesome.
Wait, Alfred(Michael Gough) from the Batman movies played the Toymaker?! 🤯 That's awesome! 😊
And, Emeeic Belasco from the Legend of Hell House
yup
He was also for a time married to a 1st/2nd Doctor companion (Polly Wright/Annake Wills)
He was in a couple of Doctor Who stories, obviously he was The Toymaker as seen here but he was also a Time Lord in Arc Of Infinity with Peter Davison
@@EuanGilmour95 of course he was!!! Can't believe I forgot that.
What I alwas loved about William Hartnell's Doctor is he didn't need to run and do backflips in order to save the day.
I loved that he was so arrogant and stubbornly foolish in season one. By season three, he was far more personable, wiser, and younger. ~ And that was even before his first regeneration. Plus, I still love his attire. Always the noble gent. 😉
Steven: "We can't just stand here and _talk_ our way out of this..."
The Doctor and their next fifteen (and counting) regenerations: 😏
Steven helped every incarnation of the Doctor with those words.
@@bonniestar4707 "And another thing", the Doctor said. "Never let me talk!" Later, the Angels failed to appreciate the ... gravity of the situation
@@myrddin4242maybe they'd appreciate the mavity of the situation.
@@bonniestar4707 Indeed
"We can! That's just it!"
If you noticed in the trailer and clips from the giggle the toymaker changed his accent a few times. My guess is so the doctor doesn't try to use that way to beat him this time around
Anyone else BUZZING to see the return of the Toymaker tomorrow after FIFTY years! 😮
57 years, 7 months and 16 days
@@ronaldeliascorderocalles Wow! That was fast 😆
I am
@DalekPrimeProductions don't underestimate a doctor who fan's autism
Yep me! Been looking forward to it forward to it since it was announced!
Finally love for the doctor who started it all
At least we still have this last segment of this serial; the rest of it remains lost.
Actually, I thought the beginning part was found as well.
I love the idea that the Doctor can impersonate almost anyone, they do know billions of accents and languages after all.
He
@@ergovoks5200they
HAHAHAHA!
Keep on coping.
@@ergovoks5200Not if you talk about the Doctor in general. If you talk about Hartnell in particular, then yes.
he
stop with the nonsense
Man, Hartnell has such an absolute command of the screen.
It's a shame they hadn't animated this a few years ago so more people would be familiar with him
Glad I'd already seen the Loose Cannon recons of Eps 1-3.
I was thinking the same thing. They're releasing it next year after the Toymaker has already returned. They should've prioritised it over some of the other animations
@@AndrewChapmansame!
Good news! It's being animated at last
@@AndrewChapmanNot legally you hadn’t.
Such a great serial, it's so unfortunate the BBC deleted/got rid of most of the episodes from this serial. Can't wait to see the toymaker return tomorrow!
"deleted" as if it was some digital archive rather than physical reels
It's more like some of the original film reels aren't preserve properly rather than it got "deleted"
@@AbrahamArthemiusthey actively recorded over them and many other old shows.. 😕 So although deleted is modern parlance it’s still kind of accurate.
You can wipe a (both professional and domestic formats) tape or destroy a film reel, but yes deleted only became common in most circles with the advent of personal computers being common in homes.
Why were they archived
i love the little "Well, what's taking so long?" hand motion at 4:58
Michael Gough (RIP) also the Alfred of the Burton's Batman Erea and the creator of the Cybernauts of The Avengers .
6:22 - and now it's time for a rematch 57 YEARS in the making!
The fact a villain is coming back after 57 years, that has to be some kind of record in fictional media?
1:49 I love that the TARDIS is on rollers!!
it's interesting how way back then they set it up that at some point they would meet the toymaker again as he could come back at anytime and anyplace and create a new world of his own and yet he was never brought back until now. I also find it interesting that in the original he uses a more complex game yet in the new doctor who is two very simple games - i would have expected a game that would have taken the whole episode and a chase through time and space because both the games used require no witt or skill and were games of chance meaning the odds were more evenly matched rather than more in the toymakers favour.
I believe as the doctor was the challenger in the second game, he has the right to issue what game they played. The third game they played was after the Toymaker was flustered by the whole “oh god there are two doctors now”. I think he was a bit flustered from them being able to outwit him again that he defaulted to a game he had been teasing the doctor with before.
5:58 Priceless delivery by William Hartnell.
"We'll never see him again, will we Doctor?"
Well, maybe YOU won't...🤖
Back when I was in my teens (and RTD was in his 20s) The Celestial Toymaker was considered something of a 'lost classic' and I therefore wonder if there is a memory of that which is instrumental in the character being revived. Certainly, a mixture of faux and real nostalgia has seen the 1st Doctor era swing back into some sort of acclaim. And the politics in the background are obviously a part of that. What I mainly recall is reading the Target novelization as a schoolboy, with a boiled egg (we had chickens) and soldiers, at breakfast. Calmer days.
You read a book at the breakfast table? Oh my! 😮 😉
"We won't see him again!" ...well, the two of you won't because you'll be long dead before he can rebuild his world...but The Doctor will.
Tomorrow night the Toymaker is back after 57 years! 🙌
Tomorrow afternoon actually
@@jarrodedson5441 6:30pm WET
@@jarrodedson5441you pedantic tosser 😂. it's after 6
The most uncanny thing are the companions going to tardis when told.
Can't wait to watch the animated versions of episodes 1-3
Animation looks ridiculous but at least we’ll have a dvd version to watch and hopefully enjoy
Where can I watch this animated version?
@@righteousrawb7225it’s coming out in 2024 on dvd format
From the images I’ve seen it looks atrocious. There’s a guy on TH-cam who’s fan-animated one episode using AI. It’s classy and atmospheric and makes the official version look amateurish. I wish the BBC had bunged him a fair pay to do it for them.
@@righteousrawb7225 there’s just a trailer at the moment and no release date revealed yet
I love that you can faintly hear Hartnell's laugh at 5:07
The shorts and these clips have made me really start to love Doctor Who
I find it impossible to believe that Russell T. Davies of all people failed to see how imaginative and cool the concept of the Toymaker was until recently. This character has been begging to come back on screen since 1966.
Well I'm pretty sure more people were clamoring for the Meddling Monk's return. That WAS the first time we ever saw another Time Lord on Doctor Who.
@@benwasserman8223I'd still want to see the monk return, partly to get a break from the master and partly cause they're an interesting character as well. I've wanted them back ever since listening to resurrection of mars/damos and lucie miller/to the death, where he pushes the 8th doctor so far that he almost kills him in front of Susan and threatens to break the laws to time and rewrite history.
There are just so many characters, I don't understand why we have to fall on The Master every single time the script needs a villain that's on The Doctor's level. The Rani, The Monk, The Valeyard, The Toymaker, The Eleven- I'd love to see a whole Season with The Doctor and Master fighting each other in every episode, but each episode a new villain comes up to make a third faction, and just have a huge three-way chess match. It would literally be the best season ever by default even if it sucks.
@@carealoo744 The are licensing reason for why The Rani can never come back; apparently holders of the rights to her character are very uncooperative. There's a practical issue too; The Rani was basically a female Master, and the Master can be female now
@@xGOKOPx not really, she's a scientist with no morality, she's not interested in things like domination, only being able to do her experiments, which the doctor and timelords tend to disagree with cause they're normally highly immoral and using people as test subjects.
I hope they respect this portrayal of the Toymaker as a calculative villain instead of the havoc-y one seen in the previews, bridging the two believably into the same character.
you wot
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So did they do him justice
@@DALEKCHANNELYT Not really IMHO.
Michael Gough is quite unforgettable as the Toymaker and Neil Patrick Harris has equally honored the role.
4:00 This is why I like Steven. He offers to sacrifice himself without a moment's hesitation.
I’ve always loved that about Steven. He’s someone who’s been through a whole heck of a lot and has seen a lot of friends die and doesn’t hesitate to do whatever he might have to to prevent that happening again. It’s a shame he’s so overlooked, he’s one of my absolute favorites and such a decent human being.
I like how he helped every incarnation of the Doctor with his sentence of talking his way out of things.
"Stop meddling with my sh*t!"
Will you leave my sh*t alone... DO YOU HEAR ME WILL YOU LEAVE MY SH*T ALONE
*ship
@@coolyt8354 I'm aware.
@@PerovNigma I know lol I thought you were joking
It's cool that this Doctor and Toymaker are the exact same characters 60 years later!
They are not.
@CelestineGovender so he isn't a time lord? He said he always was able to bi, but never knew he could. Who said he was never able to become a woman?
and 60 years later this villian will dance to the song spice up your life by the spice girls.
And with this the last piece that was missing in my mind about the 60s special was put in place.
What was one of Hartnell's most famous features as the first Doctor? HIS GIGGLE!
1:42 you can see the wheels on the Tardis
I love that you can clearly see castor wheels under the tardis (@ 04:31). Would never have noticed them as a child!
Its crazy seeing this, Ive never seen Michael Gogh as anyone but Alfred Pennyworth, I love seeing this
never watched sleepy hollow? or Dracula?
He was a busy and popular actor in the 60s and 70s.
I can’t imagine this dude dancing to the spice girls
Times change and so must I...
...and yet he did!
@@margin606Nah, not the classics they had more dignity.
Michael Gough ohhhhhhhhh he was awesome! I miss him and I grew up with him as Alfred in the Batman movies. I can’t wait for the special tomorrow!
Please more uploads like this of Classic Who.
he managed to jump the whole of unit while dancing to spice up your life
The fact that “The Celestial Toymaker is a legendary god and one of the only people the Doctor cannot truly defeat, but most of what we know about him was burned in a fire” is a real statement that actually happened has to be one of the most Doctor Who Moments to ever happen during the production of this show.
I am so excited to see the latest incarnation of the toymaker! This enemy was unknown to me till the show started teasing him so it's gonna be an interesting time!
Let the games begin!
Just saw this episode last night. Very excited for tomorrow
First time watching classic who and it is excellent.
So funny when you think about the fact that this guy will eventually dance to Spice Up Your Life... 😂
Make your last move doctor
Make your last move
I love both of his deliveries of that line
The late Michael Gough absolutely brilliant
To have fought against & tormented The Doctor so effortlessly is no easy feat; who knew that Alfred Pennyworth could have such a dark side to him?
The new ToyMaker actually looks like the old one. Pretty good casting for a modern world!
The first of several immortal beings in Doctor Who. I read the novel as a kid, and of course we had Pt4 on the Hartnell Years' tape... I know there's been controversy around the term "celestial", but even if the rest of the story may be a little formulaic, I think it was a groundbreaking concept for the series. The previous season we had our first new Time Lord (not that we would hear that phrase for several more years), and then we get the Toymaker in S3. Amazing. Simply amazing. And yes, Hartnell was an amazing Doctor. I hope we get more colourised, abridged stories from his era, because ultimately that is the only way you will get the modern audience to pay attention. My kids grew up watching Tomb of the Cybermen, and all of them love it (and the other b&w Cyber stories), but they wont just sit down and watch other b&w WHO... It needs a drawcard, and The Daleks (2023 Colour) was a great way to do that.
Truly iconic character, so happy for his return
Is it me or was this brilliant especially for the time. And what an awesome toymaker Michael gough was.
I love Hartnell's gravitas. Gough plays iff Hartnell really well. It really is a game.
Toymaker is a evil Alfred. If Bruce Wayne had only known.
I think the Toymaker is going to have a big grudge on the Doctor.
Interesting how the Toymaker here offers the First Doctor power and wants him to join him in games across the universe, which the Doctor turns down, only for the Fourteenth Doctor to offer to have the Toymaker join him in "The Giggle" to play endless games across the stars, which the Toymaker turns down.
Imagine bringing this storyline back 14 doctors later
I can't believe it took them this long to bring the toymaker back
I just rewatched Batman Returns for the first time in a while. So fun to see the Goughness himself in this more sinister, ancient role.
6:05. Dodo: "We'll never see him again. Will we Doctor?"
Hartnell Doctor: "Hold my beer!"
So happy we are getting this story animated at last
Here after the devils chord. Love what rtd is doing with him
On Michael Gough returning as a timelord, I'm just going to assume Hedin faced the Toymaker, won but regenerated that the Toymaker cursed him with his face.
This is the late Michael Gough who played the toymaker. He was also famous for playing Batman's butler Alfred.
51 years later the toymaker returned, truly “another time” in both our world and the doctors
Wow, the 1st Doctor was just the gangsta man. He really got that dang in it 😂😂
Such a smirking badass hahahaaahahahagah
I think RTD brought the Toymaker out of obscurity/retirement for Doctor Who's 60th Anniversary because he saw Moffat do the same thing with the Great Intelligence in the lead-up to the 5oth. Either way, well played.
The development of the first doctor from a grouchy old man to alien grandad is wholesome to see. Really hope we get more of his adventures released on DVD/Blu Ray at some point.
They’ve all been released on DVD.
@@DrWhoFanJ Oh have they? I knew there were a fee but all of them?
I must find then now.
Later the toy maker decided to make a world where he is a butler and raise a boy after his parents are killed in a movie theater
"Ah, you still call it a ship!"
The mavity of tomorrow's episode is huge!
With respect to the later actors who played the first Doctor, they don't hold a candle to Hartnell himself. Love the way he moves between grouchy and childlike excitement effortlessly.
Amazing how they nearly replaced the ailing Hartnell in this story before making up his regeneration not long after. He still showed what he's got here.
Hartnell was ailing but not quite yet to the point of making his further continuance in the role impossible at that time. He and John Wiles, the then-producer, were on hostile terms and Wiles thought to use this story as a backdoor way to replace Hartnell with another actor while he was on break. The BBC management got wind of it and stopped that little machination dead in its tracks. However, despite the rancor between Wiles and Hartnell and Wiles and the BBC management, it did cause them to start considering the situation seriously and whether or not to choose a replacement actor, since it was obvious that the issue of Hartnell's health couldn't be ignored forever.
The Toymaker needs to collab with Jigsaw and the Squid Game villains.
This had a beginning middle and end that any general audience could understand if they had just walked into this one scene.
That’s not just good writing
That’s good acting 🎭
They established the world
Introduced the characters in the scene
Demonstrated the problem
Provided consequences so their were no easy way out
Provided a solution that would eventually provide payback
That is good storytelling 🎉🎉🎉
I love the exposed wheels of the TARDIS😂 they couldn't be bothered to give it a little skirt lol. This was a great scene. I really should watch the classic episodes.
It's not that they couldn't be bothered, it's just that there was no point.
60's episodes were never intended for massive screens with HD. They were made with 16- 20 inch TV screens in mind and never to be viewed again after broadcast.
You would never have been able to see the flaws as you could today.
Was the Toymaker ever referenced again in books? Comics? This is honestly the first time I ever heard about him
If only you could Google it and find out.
He’s appeared multiple times in the expanded universe, most notably in the Big Finish Sixth Doctor story The Nightmare Fair (adapted from a story for Colin Baker’s second season in the 80s, though it had to be abandoned at the time following the eighteen month hiatus).
He was due to make a come back in January 1986, in the 6th Doctor's era, in a story called 'The nightmare fair', pre-planning was done to shoot it at Blackpool's Pleasure Beach but the story never went into production because Dr Who itself was cancelled at that point. In 1989 it was published as a novel, and in 2009 adapted for a full cast audio by Big Finish, with The Toymaker being played by David Bailie, as Michael Gough who played the original one was in his 90's and had retired from acting.
He was intended to be in a fourth doctor story (The Eyes of Nemesis) and Sixth Doctor story (The Nightmare Fair) but failed to reach production. The Toymaker has appeared in stories in the extended media: The Magic Mousetrap, Solitaire, Endgame and Divided Loyalties from the top of my head.
@@SirDanFilmsUnltd Oooooo! I love Big Finish. I’m gonna check that out
I wonder if they will explain his change in appearance from the time with the 1st Doctor and 14th Doctor?
Well he is a celestial being that can crate realities you I imagine he can take on verious shapes.
He’s changed his appearance before, audio books for example. He’s a guardian of time from the 11th dimension he can be whatever he wants to be
@OnTheHorizon- oh that's cool
His body can be destroyed, and he's not truly a physical being. He can take any form he likes.
Hartnell is on fire as THE DOCTOR.
Pantheon of Discord
Mara (Beast)
Sutekh (Death)
Toymaker (Games)
Krampus (Punishment)
Maestro (Music)
Hecuba (Time)
Trickster (Pranks)
The special effects here seem so simple today, but back then, it must have been great excitement for the viewers to see pieces floating through the air and those sounds when the world explodes... :)
0:08 why is the Doctor explaining all this to Mario, he knows game logic
Fingers crossed for the return of this serial one day; only the fourth episode of the four part story survives
Excited to see what tomorrow brings, but feel the story as a whole could be longer than the 50-60 minutes that I assume we'll have. Feel it's a story that is a multiple episode layer but see what we get I believe.
Apparently it's 61 minutes, so they barely got out of your range there lol
It should mean tight and pacey storytelling and with NPH playing the villain should be great