Most people do not understand how the needs of of the farm shape many or the things we do. On June 24, 1972 we had worked all during June to make sure the last of the hay was done by that day. Then the cows milked and chores done for our 8:00 evening church wedding and then the reception in the church Fellowship Hall. What a great 51 one years we have had.😊
We still use our 1209 John Deere MoCo Dad bought new in 1982. The pitman was rebuilt once but other than that it just keeps going. I remember my grad party back in 1985 didn't happen until 1st cutting hay is off. It was a good time. Congratulations to you Mason best wishes in your future endeavors.
We switched from Deere to Krone discbines, and really like the performance of the Krone. They do a fantastic job of truly laying the crop wide and flat, vs. Narrow windrows. Not needing tools to change blades, and the safety cut system are very nice too!
I seen where a person changing oil filters he would cut a plastic pop bottle and slide it on the bottom of filter and when he spun it off he caught all the oil that drained out. Saved a big mess probably 2 litter bottle would fit. THANK YOU TOM FROM NEBRASKA
When I lived in central Illinois, I cut, raked and baled hay for two farmers, up to 10k acres. I used a French mower which always left a perfect windrow. I loved that mower.
This is a great video shows how good you take care of your equipment you have great equipment there. Nice work guys hope you had great time at the graduations and party
Always liked the setup New Holland had with that front gearbox that would pivot and keep the pto shaft straight all time. Cut a lot of acres with one with zero issues
When I was Yung my dad and Grandpa used a sickle mower then they moved up to a haybine. When I started to farm I was using that same machine and hate everything about it honestly. I recently went back to a sickle mower and love the quality of my hay. We have a milk cow and I try to give her the nicest hay possible. For your operation it's not big enough but I wish you the best of luck with the hunt!!!
Have a new NH 312 Plus Discbine on the way but have been running a NH H7450 hyrda swing with the 3pt swivel for the last 9 years, can make real sharp corners and has lots of options for laying out the windrow. We don't have to swap the tractor off the mower but if we were I'd get a Quick-Hitch for the 3pt, the new mower is a Drawbar Swivel, in either case I prefer having the lighter PTO shaft on the swivel hitches vs the old Quad Knuckle shafts like the Case IH 8312 had at the dairy farm I worked at. I'll throw in, while we haven't had any cutter bar issues with the New Holland, I do like how the JD cutter bars are put together.
This was very interesting. Hope all went well with the hay and tell Mason congratulations on his graduation. Will be interested to see his truck's new racks. You all have skills that compliment each other which is great. Praying for rain for you and everyone here in MI, WI, Illinois and wherever it is needed now..
I've been using a New Holland 313 disc mower/conditioner for five years. No problems and it does a good job, very flexible... follows the ground like a wet rag. It is the 2 point version. It's not too hard to hook up; makes turning easier. Mine has the impeller conditioner, but I would go with the roller conditioner if I were getting another one.
Looks like you've got a handle on having things ready to roll. Sure helps eliminating downtime when things get busy!!! Hope you get some worthwhile rain. We got rain last week...sure helped, but will need more as time goes on to keep things going.
We bought a Krome discbine four or five years ago and we are very happy with it. The big problem with Deere and New Holland machines is that they have two seats between each turtle. If you have a leak you need to pull them apart to get to the bad one. The Kuhn one shares the oil so metal can travel. The Krome has an ingenious system where if you hit something a roll pin breaks and the gear spins up and out of the way so there is no gear damage like you do have with the others. It’s made in Germany by a company that only makes hay equivalent. We haven’t touched it since we bought it other than greasing and sharpening the blades.
We have a kid in here it's only an 8-foot machine is a model FC 243g like it very much very low-maintenance we change the oil in the cutter bar once a year and then the gear drives once a year other than that and about one who set of blades a year. It's been very good and we have learned that the earlier dear disc mower conditioners were made by but painted Deere Green
A lot of neighbors are running New Holland Discbines the last few years, I have heard no complaints from them. New Holland has always been very good quality for the money on hay equipment.
We used to have a 630 and traded it for a new holland 313 and overall I think the new holland is a better machine and it is a drawbar mounted with the swivel and you can turn so much easier and don't have the drive line chatter like we had in our Deere
I would keep your current discbine especially if the new ones are made cheaply and equipment that is made cheaply will spend most of it’s time being fixed every time it gets broken
Bought mf 1373. Razor edge mower with steel rollers. Amazing mower that does a awesome job and great drydown for dry hay. And it runs super quiet not screams like most discbines
I don't remember what the first one was but our vermeer has the three point hook up with the drive line in it we love it I imagine our terrain is a lot like yours
We have always run New Holland discbines and gotten along well. Currently have a 7230 which is a little over 10 ft cut with rubber rollers. It will lay a wider windrow than your 630 will be able to plus is a few inches wider cut.
we dairy farm amd we have had a New Holland discbine and a khun and they both got the job done. we liked the new holland better. they both run from 3 point and it doesnt take too long to hook up.
i use a sickle mower but my neighbor is 100% john deere but a dealer talked him into trying a massey fergeson. i dont know the model i can find out but he told me he is more than happy and less costly than a deere and he likes the steel rollers. 2 other neighbors are strictly deere but pull new holland discbines
I use a Kevernland 4332T disc mower conditioner. 2pt hook up, very nice would probably never go back to a drawbar hookup. It has a wide spread kit on it which lays the windrow the full width of the machine. Perfect for dry hay.
Congratulations Mason , new beginnings for you now that's done , we had a mower that was on the 3 point , best mower i have ever used , you turn so easy far better than a draw bar and on a bank or slope it follows that tractor perfectly it was a Vicon Olympus a fantastic machine
Congratulations to mason.. About a discbine I would say yours is worth $16 to $18,000 .. I've ran new holland. Kuhn and now have a massey ferguson.. I would recommend massey ferguson. It made a phenomenal noticeable difference on our farm with dry time. The windows are completely flat and wide . It can also be changed to windrow tight as well.. They are hesston designed and built very well.. The price of them where almost half of a John deere.. Deere mowco are great mowers but expensive .. good luck on your search
I have a question as a non farmer about tractors......(we had 100 acres for beef cattle in E. Tennessee as a kid but never owned tractors). Ive always wondered why you just dont see older tractors retro-fitted with roll-bars. And Im asking you because your farm is so hilly. Has that ever crossed your mind. Have you ever almost flipped a vehicle. Id like to hear a brief discussion if you ever have time. I dont know anything about it but would like to hear a veteran farmer discuss. Quite a few farmers were killed in rollover accidents around our area - back in the day. Thanks guys. Love your channel.
Wasn't one of your first videos putting breaks on a different Oliver? Or maybe that was the same one. I've got a buddy in Upstate NY with a 3 or four year old New Holland 313 and loves it, I guess it mounts to the lift arms. I've never pulled one without a sickle bar.
Neat REX forage box, haven’t seen them in years ! You prob. Don’t wanna run a new Holland haybine 6 ft. Wide? That is what we had back when we farmed pulled by a Case 730 diesel comfort king open station. Loved operating the tractor, sitting high on the seat.
Short for Constant Velocity Joint. They're primarily on front wheel drive cars and pretty much anything four wheel drive. Fairly compact, incredibly tough, easy to replace if needed, and in a hard plastic (usually) flexible, accordion style bellows boot.
@@ronzezulka6646 Thanks you!! I'm familiar w/ CV joints. Just had never heard them called velocity joints. I've never seen them used on farm implements as of yet.
Have an 835 deere that is 2pt hitch and a 946 deere with drawbar and the 2pt is easier to hook I feel. The drawbar on the 946 isn't average drop pin and go but instead you need tools to attach a receiver to the the drawbar and it's way more frustrating
John Deere came out with the quick change PTO shaft on the 3020 and 4020 but you had to be quick at changing it because the oil would run out. I would actually park my 4020 so the front end was down hill. The steeper the better. You didn't lose much because you could have the second shaft read to shove in when you pulled the first one out. I think for the time IH had a better setup.
I think Massey Ferguson is a good solid machine we try a new holland did not like it but I think there is a lot of good mowers out there we currently use a 4995 John Deere mower and I think a deere is probably the most heavy duty
There is one type of equipment for hay see if you can guess it a gold yellow color it make better bales😊 and cuts nice I do 2900 bales a year no mod problems 😊
Now that ur leaving tgat oliver for this coming winter I'd look for a nice 4bt Cummings for it and just get a adaptor plate made up don't bother with tge gas
Nice video guys!! I'm curious why you're selling the JD Moco? It seems like it works great, probably paid for at this point, you know everything about it and how to maintain it. Seems like now is when it really makes money for you. You get something new you have a whole new can of worms as my Grandpa used to say. Not saying you're wrong, just trying to understand your line of reasoning.
disc bin a MF 1372 12ftis good heavy built go's and goes farst as you can feeded it will eat it 12ft tall forge no problems at all with steel rollsin it the mow you get had the all only one that's stayed its 15 years seen 1000`s acers
You guys are to complicated! I use to just hook up the 469 haybine to the 620 JD, then chop with the NH 717, and put up the silo! I use dawn for everything, even oily hands!
Stay w john deere disk bine no reason too switch !! Nothing runs like a deere proven !!! U always stay w wht has been there!!:)!! If not do not complain later etc :)!! Fair:)??!!
Just my thoughts, I think you would get more viewers if your content has happened within the last few days instead of a 3 week delay before you post it.
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Most people do not understand how the needs of of the farm shape many or the things we do. On June 24, 1972 we had worked all during June to make sure the last of the hay was done by that day. Then the cows milked and chores done for our 8:00 evening church wedding and then the reception in the church Fellowship Hall. What a great 51 one years we have had.😊
Congratulations mason on your graduation
We still use our 1209 John Deere MoCo Dad bought new in 1982. The pitman was rebuilt once but other than that it just keeps going. I remember my grad party back in 1985 didn't happen until 1st cutting hay is off. It was a good time. Congratulations to you Mason best wishes in your future endeavors.
Thank you. Be safe 😊
Great video Gierok Farms
We switched from Deere to Krone discbines, and really like the performance of the Krone. They do a fantastic job of truly laying the crop wide and flat, vs. Narrow windrows. Not needing tools to change blades, and the safety cut system are very nice too!
Nothing wrong with the extension 😊
Love your videos
Congratulations Mason on your high school graduation, best wishes 🎉, can't wait to see the rack that you fab for your truck.
I seen where a person changing oil filters he would cut a plastic pop bottle and slide it on the bottom of filter and when he spun it off he caught all the oil that drained out. Saved a big mess probably 2 litter bottle would fit. THANK YOU TOM FROM NEBRASKA
When I lived in central Illinois, I cut, raked and baled hay for two farmers, up to 10k acres. I used a French mower which always left a perfect windrow. I loved that mower.
Congratulations to Mason!! A milestone in life. If he carries the Gierok ethics and morals forward, he'll do great things.
Congratulations Mason on your graduation and may you have a healthy happy and successful life.🎉
This is a great video shows how good you take care of your equipment you have great equipment there. Nice work guys hope you had great time at the graduations and party
Having a quick hitch on the 3 pt makes having a 2 pt mounted discbine really easy to hook up and unhook.
i hear Kuhn makes a very good machine.
Your farm is so nice with all the trees.
thank you
Always liked the setup New Holland had with that front gearbox that would pivot and keep the pto shaft straight all time. Cut a lot of acres with one with zero issues
When I was Yung my dad and Grandpa used a sickle mower then they moved up to a haybine. When I started to farm I was using that same machine and hate everything about it honestly. I recently went back to a sickle mower and love the quality of my hay. We have a milk cow and I try to give her the nicest hay possible. For your operation it's not big enough but I wish you the best of luck with the hunt!!!
I’d keep the 630 myself. All your guys stuff is nice
We really like Heston now massy Ferguson. Dry hay the best with steel rollers
Let's hope some good rains come soon so there will a second crop of hay to make!! Getting dry out there.Too many hot hot days. Thanks 😊.
Maybe they would let you demonstrate a Massey Ferguson haybine we have a self propelled one and we love the job it does with the new steel rolls
Have a new NH 312 Plus Discbine on the way but have been running a NH H7450 hyrda swing with the 3pt swivel for the last 9 years, can make real sharp corners and has lots of options for laying out the windrow.
We don't have to swap the tractor off the mower but if we were I'd get a Quick-Hitch for the 3pt, the new mower is a Drawbar Swivel, in either case I prefer having the lighter PTO shaft on the swivel hitches vs the old Quad Knuckle shafts like the Case IH 8312 had at the dairy farm I worked at.
I'll throw in, while we haven't had any cutter bar issues with the New Holland, I do like how the JD cutter bars are put together.
The swivel hitch on disc mowers is really nice - takes corners much easier compared to mowers hooked to the drawbar. And not too bad to hook up.
This was very interesting. Hope all went well with the hay and tell Mason congratulations on his graduation. Will be interested to see his truck's new racks. You all have skills that compliment each other which is great. Praying for rain for you and everyone here in MI, WI, Illinois and wherever it is needed now..
Glad to see a small family dairy still going and glad to see you guys have kept up on your equipment. You have a great line of equipment
Your Draw Bar extension could use a lock washer.
I've been using a New Holland 313 disc mower/conditioner for five years. No problems and it does a good job, very flexible... follows the ground like a wet rag. It is the 2 point version. It's not too hard to hook up; makes turning easier. Mine has the impeller conditioner, but I would go with the roller conditioner if I were getting another one.
Looks like you've got a handle on having things ready to roll. Sure helps eliminating downtime when things get busy!!! Hope you get some worthwhile rain. We got rain last week...sure helped, but will need more as time goes on to keep things going.
We bought a Krome discbine four or five years ago and we are very happy with it. The big problem with Deere and New Holland machines is that they have two seats between each turtle. If you have a leak you need to pull them apart to get to the bad one. The Kuhn one shares the oil so metal can travel. The Krome has an ingenious system where if you hit something a roll pin breaks and the gear spins up and out of the way so there is no gear damage like you do have with the others. It’s made in Germany by a company that only makes hay equivalent. We haven’t touched it since we bought it other than greasing and sharpening the blades.
We have a kid in here it's only an 8-foot machine is a model FC 243g like it very much very low-maintenance we change the oil in the cutter bar once a year and then the gear drives once a year other than that and about one who set of blades a year. It's been very good and we have learned that the earlier dear disc mower conditioners were made by but painted Deere Green
Used many mowers. Jd. Definitely the best if you have the money
A lot of neighbors are running New Holland Discbines the last few years, I have heard no complaints from them. New Holland has always been very good quality for the money on hay equipment.
We used to have a 630 and traded it for a new holland 313 and overall I think the new holland is a better machine and it is a drawbar mounted with the swivel and you can turn so much easier and don't have the drive line chatter like we had in our Deere
the kverneland 4340 amazing mower
We have ours for 6 years and no problem so far
and have a mower that swind both way is a huge adventage and time saver
956 John Deere good swather...
New Holland equipment brother has a 1431 it's awesome
I would keep your current discbine especially if the new ones are made cheaply and equipment that is made cheaply will spend most of it’s time being fixed every time it gets broken
Bought mf 1373. Razor edge mower with steel rollers. Amazing mower that does a awesome job and great drydown for dry hay.
And it runs super quiet not screams like most discbines
I don't remember what the first one was but our vermeer has the three point hook up with the drive line in it we love it I imagine our terrain is a lot like yours
We have always run New Holland discbines and gotten along well. Currently have a 7230 which is a little over 10 ft cut with rubber rollers. It will lay a wider windrow than your 630 will be able to plus is a few inches wider cut.
Nice hammers ....who ever made those look new super job
The Kuhn haybine that how farms work uses seems to lay out a nice wide row.
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we dairy farm amd we have had a New Holland discbine and a khun and they both got the job done. we liked the new holland better. they both run from 3 point and it doesnt take too long to hook up.
i use a sickle mower but my neighbor is 100% john deere but a dealer talked him into trying a massey fergeson. i dont know the model i can find out but he told me he is more than happy and less costly than a deere and he likes the steel rollers. 2 other neighbors are strictly deere but pull new holland discbines
I use a Kevernland 4332T disc mower conditioner. 2pt hook up, very nice would probably never go back to a drawbar hookup. It has a wide spread kit on it which lays the windrow the full width of the machine. Perfect for dry hay.
Congratulations Mason , new beginnings for you now that's done , we had a mower that was on the 3 point , best mower i have ever used , you turn so easy far better than a draw bar and on a bank or slope it follows that tractor perfectly it was a Vicon Olympus a fantastic machine
I would keep it as a backup discbine
Congratulations to mason.. About a discbine I would say yours is worth $16 to $18,000 .. I've ran new holland. Kuhn and now have a massey ferguson.. I would recommend massey ferguson. It made a phenomenal noticeable difference on our farm with dry time. The windows are completely flat and wide . It can also be changed to windrow tight as well.. They are hesston designed and built very well.. The price of them where almost half of a John deere.. Deere mowco are great mowers but expensive .. good luck on your search
We run a pottinger mower cuts awesome as fast as your tractor can pull it also leaves a very wide swathe almost as wide as your cutting width
Look into a new holland 313 discbine they are really good mowers and they turn tight and they leave a wide or small swath of hay
I have a question as a non farmer about tractors......(we had 100 acres for beef cattle in E. Tennessee as a kid but never owned tractors). Ive always wondered why you just dont see older tractors retro-fitted with roll-bars. And Im asking you because your farm is so hilly. Has that ever crossed your mind. Have you ever almost flipped a vehicle. Id like to hear a brief discussion if you ever have time. I dont know anything about it but would like to hear a veteran farmer discuss. Quite a few farmers were killed in rollover accidents around our area - back in the day. Thanks guys. Love your channel.
You guys should look into a new holland discbine they are really nice
Our 1850 Oliver had that option for switching the 540 to a 1,000 R.P.M. I would imagine all the bigger ones had the same setup..
Wasn't one of your first videos putting breaks on a different Oliver? Or maybe that was the same one. I've got a buddy in Upstate NY with a 3 or four year old New Holland 313 and loves it, I guess it mounts to the lift arms. I've never pulled one without a sickle bar.
We’ve always run 2pth swivel mowers. We’ve never had issues, and they are pretty easy to hook up
Neat REX forage box, haven’t seen them in years ! You prob. Don’t wanna run a new Holland haybine 6 ft. Wide? That is what we had back when we farmed pulled by a Case 730 diesel comfort king open station. Loved operating the tractor, sitting high on the seat.
Surprised most equipment hasn't moved more towards velocity joints over U joints. They're much more forgiving ans way more stable at speed.
What's a velocity joint?
Short for Constant Velocity Joint. They're primarily on front wheel drive cars and pretty much anything four wheel drive. Fairly compact, incredibly tough, easy to replace if needed, and in a hard plastic (usually) flexible, accordion style bellows boot.
@@ronzezulka6646 Thanks you!! I'm familiar w/ CV joints. Just had never heard them called velocity joints. I've never seen them used on farm implements as of yet.
We use a John deere 1360 dicsbine, its old but it works really good. My grandpa has had it for quite awhile. A couple neighbors have the same thing.
Have an 835 deere that is 2pt hitch and a 946 deere with drawbar and the 2pt is easier to hook I feel. The drawbar on the 946 isn't average drop pin and go but instead you need tools to attach a receiver to the the drawbar and it's way more frustrating
Aaron. How does dad feel about a kuhn or a vermeer. D&D has those brands
The 1066 was also built 50 years ago so give it a break. The over and under pto was the way to go in those days.
Arron needs a bib lol
John Deere came out with the quick change PTO shaft on the 3020 and 4020 but you had to be quick at changing it because the oil would run out. I would actually park my 4020 so the front end was down hill. The steeper the better. You didn't lose much because you could have the second shaft read to shove in when you pulled the first one out. I think for the time IH had a better setup.
Awesome you have graduated. What would you want for your disc bine? Have a great day
I can send you some homemade soap!
That be cool
Keep an eye out, shipping today!
New idea or Kuhn you can take the swath others a lay it down like a sickle bar
To my knowledge degree still has the heaviest cutter bar built on disc binds just saying but I am a deer guy😂
New holland
When can we see some of your neighbors farms? Dairy farms etc and tractors were waiting :)!
I think Massey Ferguson is a good solid machine we try a new holland did not like it but I think there is a lot of good mowers out there we currently use a 4995 John Deere mower and I think a deere is probably the most heavy duty
What’re your thoughts on something like a Krone 3 point mounted mower conditioner 🤔
Set haybine hitch to tractor hitch instead putting stuff on drawbar all the time
There is one type of equipment for hay see if you can guess it a gold yellow color it make better bales😊 and cuts nice I do 2900 bales a year no mod problems 😊
how long is the toungh on that disc bine
Guys get any rain up that way ? Been since memorial day hear in iowa
Nice I have never seen a adjustment on hydraulics ? For speed
I have a new holland discbine with a swivel hitch . I can hookup in5 min and unhook I had three discbine I loved the new holland the best
The new holland discbine swivel hitch hook up to drawbar
Vermeer disc bine steel rowlers
Now that ur leaving tgat oliver for this coming winter I'd look for a nice 4bt Cummings for it and just get a adaptor plate made up don't bother with tge gas
Get one out of a piece of equipment like a case backhoe for the governor set right then
To me I'd buy Johm Deere or Kuhn mowers....I personally would to see yall run a John Deere 3830 for mowing hay.
Use wix filters on your tractors !
Nice video guys!! I'm curious why you're selling the JD Moco? It seems like it works great, probably paid for at this point, you know everything about it and how to maintain it. Seems like now is when it really makes money for you. You get something new you have a whole new can of worms as my Grandpa used to say. Not saying you're wrong, just trying to understand your line of reasoning.
Where can I purchase a ball cap
You need tractor sponsors, so you can try out different makes of tractors.
Gojo,,,with pumice. Basically whipped animal fat,kerosene and sand.
disc bin a MF 1372 12ftis good heavy built go's and goes farst as you can feeded it will eat it 12ft tall forge no problems at all with steel rollsin it the mow you get had the all only one that's stayed its 15 years seen 1000`s acers
You guys are to complicated! I use to just hook up the 469 haybine to the 620 JD, then chop with the NH 717, and put up the silo! I use dawn for everything, even oily hands!
why do you run so high in idle??? Thank you
If you want the best disc mower conditioner money can buy, get yourself a Krone.
Kuhn!
It's been better to spend more on equipment than a little less and ending up with a lot less.
Stay w john deere disk bine no reason too switch !! Nothing runs like a deere proven !!! U always stay w wht has been there!!:)!! If not do not complain later etc :)!! Fair:)??!!
Howdy, I hope ya'll are doing well,
Why do you keep deleting my comments ??
Stay safe and Farm on my Friends, Peace
I watch all your videos to the end, and always give a thumbs up..
Case IH
moco
Just my thoughts, I think you would get more viewers if your content has happened within the last few days instead of a 3 week delay before you post it.
New Holland Diskbine 316