The Science Behind Isometric Training and the Force Velocity Curve

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  • If someone pulls 400lbs for Deadlift on the Isochain, they are NOT pulling 400lbs in the weightroom!
    Isometric training and the force velocity curve are powerful tools that can help you maximize your gains and take your workouts to the next level. In this video, we'll explain the science behind isometric exercises and how they can help you build strength, power, and endurance. We'll also show you how the force velocity curve can be used to optimize your training and achieve your fitness goals. Whether you're a beginner or an experienced athlete, these techniques can help you get the most out of your workouts and improve your overall performance
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  • @NoLimitSquad
    @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I should have made this video 2 years ago...😂 So glad this video exists now!

  • @waynehagerty1481
    @waynehagerty1481 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great job explaining the force velocity relationship. Unfortunately some are stubborn and do not want to understand how Isometrics works as it seems that if they find out how it works and how well it works it would shatter the belief in training they hold so tightly. There is more than one way to build strength and Isometrics appears to be the fastest and safest way to accomplish ones strength goals.

  • @radiantmind8729
    @radiantmind8729 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It makes sense. There’s another curve to consider as well when doing heavy lifts-the skill curve. Olympic lifters practice lifting all the time because it’s not just about raw power. It takes a considerable amount of skill to deadlift or bench press heavy weight. So, someone who predominantly builds strength via isometric training, while being very strong, simply will not have the skill to perform heavy dynamic lifts.

  • @steverino474
    @steverino474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo...great explanation. People tend to forget the use and integration of tendon strength in isos vs weight lifting as well.

  • @philipm
    @philipm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent explanation and summary

  • @Chris-ni2pc
    @Chris-ni2pc ปีที่แล้ว +8

    People that train with captains of crush or other grippers generally say the same thing your saying about iso training.
    You need to hold the gripper in that position and eventually you get stronger, senselessly crushing the grip continually doesn't do much, actually holding it makes you stronger
    Makes sense iso training would do the same thing, Definitely need to save up to get the iso chain at some stage

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've found that working 1-2-1 tempo with coc works best. At least for me. Just tears up my hands tho😂

    • @mreverybody1150
      @mreverybody1150 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You should take a look a the IsoMax pre-order. It's cheaper but as time goes on it's slowly rising....

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mreverybody1150 DD already got me😅

  • @clydenolet736
    @clydenolet736 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bud Jefferies who’s a modern day incredible strongman who’s done more isometrics than anyone … said it plane in his isometric video “it’s not the end all best all - nothing is” I love static holds and isometrics of an overhead while working opposing muscles - there’s a lot to be said for isometrics but the same can be said for walking or jumping jacks.Isometrics overall are the other side of the coin of muscle control as advocated by Maxik - the man would tell you he hit his physique and 185LB single arm barbell press through his method alone .. but that dog don’t hunt.

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally agree. Definitely not the best thing on the planet by any means. Just spreading some knowledge is all😁

    • @brotherdarkness89
      @brotherdarkness89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rip to Bud Jeffries. He was very wise and very missed

  • @mertonhirsch4734
    @mertonhirsch4734 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is it important to rest a long time between 6 second isometrics, like as long as for a typical set (2 minutes) or can you do 4 x 6 or 3 x 6 like a single set with maybe 20-30 seconds in between?

  • @StircrzyGRAMLING
    @StircrzyGRAMLING ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you experimented on perceived percentage of force held for various times? Like experiments of Steve Justa holding at 35% for 3-5 min, have an og device have been using all out for 15 count in head and next day trying this route for endurance, your thoughts because you can measure output where I can't

  • @brcage
    @brcage 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent video, but i do have a question.
    How does isometrics apply to real world strength?
    Like if someone wanted to become a strong as humanely/personal physiology possible, how would they train?

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No way. I just made a video on that (just went live) before I saw your comment! 🤣 I read your mind😎
      If someone wanted to become as strong as possible, they'd need to train daily, probably with splits and have it all be OI

    • @brcage
      @brcage 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NoLimitSquad oh so you can gain pure real world strength with just Isometrics?
      I thought it didnt impact raw poundage on key lifts like dead lift etc.. because of the force curve (i forget what its called)
      I remember you saying that 400lb dead lift on isomax doesnt translate to and actual 400 lbs deadlift, and i was just wondering how i could actually get stronger in real world key lifts?
      Ill check out your latest vid bro hahahah

  • @milenkopizdic9217
    @milenkopizdic9217 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What I'm wondering is, did Your lifts get proportionally stronger in the gym as they increased on the iso? Like if You got 30% stronger on the iso, did Your lift of the same movement increase as well?

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They definitely did but I'm not exactly sure of the percentage proportion relative to the isochain. Also, as I always am transparent on this channel, I've been suffering lower back problems for almost the duration of the channel which has limited me in being as consistent as I'd like to be with the isochain

    • @milenkopizdic9217
      @milenkopizdic9217 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NoLimitSquad Sorry to hear that, hope You get better soon.
      I was also wondering, what if I ditch the gym altogether and just work on the isometrics like push/pull/legs splits for a while, like 2-3 months to see the results? I like the idea of strengthening my tendons and muscles, and somehow I don't feel that sore after iso training, and I definitely got some very good strength results, although it's too early to tell now since I've only been doing iso for like 10 days, though.

    • @milenkopizdic9217
      @milenkopizdic9217 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NoLimitSquad I use straps to push a bar away from me which is like an iso-bench press and I hold a very thick bar as hard as I can to strengthen my fingers, for which I already see a huge difference in strength for only 10 days. I like isometrics because you can train muscles otherwise hardly trainable like reverse calve raises and reverse hand grip (opening a hand) etc.
      And you can do this practically everywhere, even if You do not carry iso chain with you, you can train with straps or pushing/squeezing wall or whatever.

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Milenko Pizdic you'll definitely see results! I'd personally recommend still throwing some dynamic in if possible to get a more well rounded routine, even if it's just a single set of it. (Working on some videos for that soon) If you hit 6x6, you'll have much denser muscle in 90 days. Especially 5x/week. Would also depend on the split. You'd be much MUCH stronger than from the start, that's for sure

  • @bui340
    @bui340 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do you think about dynamic vibration-training (like doing normal push ups or squats on a vibrating plate)?

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      im not sure. Ive actually never heard of that before. Whats the benefit they claim?

    • @bui340
      @bui340 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NoLimitSquad I just know they exist. And the vibrations make the load differ through out the whole range. So it's something in between traditional weight training and isometric/static.

  • @amydahl5900
    @amydahl5900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you planning to review the new ISOMAX? I want to see which you prefer before I purchase.

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! And definitely the Isomax. Video should be dropping late this week or next week😎

    • @jerryh.miller1704
      @jerryh.miller1704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great news Chrys. I have the IsoChain and I pre-ordered the IsoMax. Cannot wait to see your review.

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jerry H. Miller great to hear Jerry!! Excited to drop the first of many IsoMax videos

  • @oscarl.3563
    @oscarl.3563 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Making the science simple and accessible 👍

  • @owenduck
    @owenduck ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did Bruce lees training cause his death at 32? Over training?

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont believe so but I thought it was something with his meds causing a complication in the brain. I don't think im the right person to ask for that though, respectfully

  • @jimdshea
    @jimdshea ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This makes sense. Still lifting weights tho ;).

  • @sophiawoods6748
    @sophiawoods6748 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So isometric increases that Bruce Lee type speed?

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Overcoming Isometric. Not so much yielding. Because of the neurological strength that develops from it primarily

    • @sophiawoods6748
      @sophiawoods6748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoLimitSquad I’ve notice that. They are a lot different. I do love the kung fu squat holds

  • @9274448790
    @9274448790 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I do isometric with bullworker for muscle hardness and strength..not for gaining tons of muscle mass...

    • @NoLimitSquad
      @NoLimitSquad  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How's it been so far?

    • @9274448790
      @9274448790 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NoLimitSquad it's been good... using this as complimentary training