The Queen Who Was The Saviour...And Destruction Of France? | Isabeau of Bavaria

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  • @jamellfoster6029
    @jamellfoster6029 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Isabeau had to be very intelligent. People of her time couldn't handle a strong, intelligent lady. Thus they looked disdainfully upon her. Yet through her daughter, Katherine, she is the ancestress of the British monarchy from the Tudors through the present day

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Some still can't handle that today.

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Ravenproctor2966 sad but true.

  • @monikascholz3158
    @monikascholz3158 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I originally come from Bavaria and Ysabeau has always fascinated me due to her education, as in that time many women, even if they were of noble origin, had no access to it. I read everything I can find her, she is a fascinating person for me and in Bavaria people are proud she was a French Queen💞🇨🇵🍀

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hope Bavaria got advantages from isabeau.

    • @monikascholz3158
      @monikascholz3158 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leeannproctor47 well, she left to France for her marriage at a very young age, so she did not really have any influence in Bavaria being a child, but politically she made her father more important through being the Queen of France

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What became of her brother?

  • @jazminmuro9692
    @jazminmuro9692 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I think Isabeau of Bavaria is a very misunderstood character. In fact, during their marriage, Charles trusted his wife despite he has mental condition thinking he was made of glass. After all, they had many children together doesn't prove there was love between them despite France suffering 100 years of war.
    I think she did try to protect not only her husband's crown but her children's inheritance to the French throne.
    Besides she had to switch sides to see if it could benefit France or alliances to secure. It was a difficult time for queens to be seen as respected co-rulers and try to mend the damages of France.

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A queen's job is protecting the children's inheritance.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      John the fearless had to be brave for getting on the royals bad side.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She was definitely the opposite of catherine the great.

  • @madelinevanderbunny607
    @madelinevanderbunny607 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another excellent value. This channel is living up to it's name in the best way possible. Thanks!

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aww, thank you so much! I always appreciate you taking the time to comment and tip me for the videos. I'm hoping the next proper one (my Q&A will come first) will be very good value as it's such a big subject. 😅

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    oooh lucky for me that I have a presentation to prepare so I’m sleeping late anyways lol, this way at least I’m on time for the video :)

    • @DarthDread-oh2ne
      @DarthDread-oh2ne หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Good luck with your project.

    • @lfgifu296
      @lfgifu296 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DarthDread-oh2nethanks! Very much appreciated!

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good luck with your presentation! 😊 I know, I've been horribly late with this video between a business trip last week and school starting. 😢 I will definitely get the next one up at a more reasonable time, haha.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry she had to go through 12 pregnancies.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank God for birth control.

  • @altinaykor364
    @altinaykor364 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Kinda gives me chills that she lived during Jeanne d'Arc's life time and also Catherine Of Valois

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I love when you get the crossover between figures like that, it just weaves so many different threads into context. 😊

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@HistorysForgottenPeople will you do Joan of arc?

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I want to know who was the duchess of burgundy who bears responsibility of Joan of arc's death.

    • @LadyCat183
      @LadyCat183 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe it was the Duke and of course, the English

    • @ulrikjensen6841
      @ulrikjensen6841 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Le dauphin could have rescued her from the English after she had helped him winning France back; but he DID NOT MOVE A FINGER!!!

  • @MichelleBruce-lo4oc
    @MichelleBruce-lo4oc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi, awesome live history video I enjoyed it. How are you and Mallard your cat doing? I'm doing well and so is my cat Benjamin. We finally have autumn 🍂 weather in Ontario Canada. How is the weather where you are? All your history videos are always enjoyable. Have a great day see you next video 😊 in the next video in the future could you do Madame Du Barry.

  • @English_Dawn
    @English_Dawn หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It was the quick thinking of a duchesse that saved Charles, her husband at the dance at the Hotel Saint-Pol.
    Louis had been visiting a lady who was due to give birth when returning to the Hotel Saint-Pol he was adjusting his scarf when he was dragged from his horse, his servant trying to protect him being sadly murdered then he himself sadly met the same fate.
    Vengeance met with John the Fearless on the bridge at Montereau.
    It was this act that allowed the English to the French throne.
    Louis Duke of Orleans son was captured in battle by the English and leant English and wrote many poems in English.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I choose to believe that isabeau was attractive.

    • @English_Dawn
      @English_Dawn หลายเดือนก่อน

      Especially in a bourrelet.

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am unsure just how this one slipped the net, but I have caught it now! What a fine catch, aswell 😊.
    Like deployed 👍

  • @annechildress2721
    @annechildress2721 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brave lady. Thanks!!!

  • @anweshabiswas1483
    @anweshabiswas1483 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think she was the mom of Catherine of Valois 😊
    Please next do Isabelle nevile duchess of Clarence. She was really getting forgotten

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She was and thus ancestress to all English & British monarchs from the Tudors to the present day.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Info on both neville sisters are sadly mostly gone.

    • @anweshabiswas1483
      @anweshabiswas1483 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lilacgirl-z8w Yeah 😢

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What happened to their children was also tragic.

    • @anweshabiswas1483
      @anweshabiswas1483 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ravenproctor2966 Edward of Warwick was executed in 1499 by Henry vii and Margaret pole in 1541 by Henry viii.

  • @lfgifu296
    @lfgifu296 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Today I have two related questions (recycling again bc I have a lot to think of rn😭): do you think Henry changed and became more tyrannical over the course of his reign? If so, around when do you think it happened and what were the instigators?
    Personally, I do think a change happened, but not in 1536, given he engaged in tyrannical behaviour such as the execution of Fisher, More (the near execution of Wolsey), and mistreatment of his wife and daughter, Katherine and Mary. I link it to his getting rid of Katherine of Aragon and other advisors who had been with him since the beginning of his reign, as well as letting certain persons (I think you know who I mean😭) into his life. I think one person especially exercised a malicious influence over him, as well as the faction that came with them. But as I told History Calling, this is only my theory, and I’m curious to hear yours👀👀

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How ironic?? You ask this while watching a video of his great great grandmother.

    • @HistorysForgottenPeople
      @HistorysForgottenPeople  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I don't think you have asked me this question anyway, so don't worry, although it's also possible I've forgotten my answer. 😂 And I'm always impressed you come up with such awesome questions each video, I don't mind if they're recycled at all!
      So, I do think a change happened _to make Henry worse_ but I don't think there was a point he didn't have it in him to be tyrannical. Basically, if we look at his behaviour when he was younger, he learned very quickly how to charm people, how to get them to agree to his point of view, all traits that would be made far worse once he was in a position as king where no one wanted to argue with him. He was doggedly religious from a young age as well, something his bonded over with his grandmother Margaret Beaufort, and again, would have stubborn arguments with whoever would listen about the implications of what he read.
      Henry's personality didn't change at all, but I do think when he hurt his head during the jousting accident that likely triggered the much more extreme parts of his personality. We have modern cases where people have been in accidents with severe head injuries, and their personalities also either switch, or become more irritable and intolerant. When we couple this with what was likely a superiority complex, his constant pain from a bad leg, and the fact no one argued with him unless they wanted to risk the consequences, it allowed his existing personality to develop further into a full-on tyrant.
      That's just my opinion, of course! But what's known of him as a younger man does fit with his later personality - I think it's just that when he was younger he got away with it more by being charming and good-looking. 😂

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was Bavaria ever a sovereign nation?

  • @King_Steffon_II
    @King_Steffon_II หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oh, you must be talking about Good Queen Isabeau ❤️

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are there any surviving portraits of isabeau?

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The burgundians were troublemakers.

  • @madelinevanderbunny607
    @madelinevanderbunny607 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I meant another excellent video not value. Lol. But it is great value as well to get well researched videos on people that don't get anywhere near as much coverage as other historical figures.

  • @KangElla1666
    @KangElla1666 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Please do a video on Aelfgifu of Northampton

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who was she?

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did she live in the time of Alfred the great?

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would like to hear of edith swanneck.

  • @cathy3613
    @cathy3613 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I find it hard at that time the woman especially the upper class would wear nail polish

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They had nail polish back then?

  • @azerethamaral6513
    @azerethamaral6513 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For another Queen of France story, can you do one about Anna Yaroslavna Queen of France

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've most certainly never heard of her.

  • @Kingpowch
    @Kingpowch หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the only contemporary portrait of her is the image where she is receiving the book from Christine de Pizan. She is seen a blonde and white. But it also true that it was said she was a brunette much like her mom. I wonder what she looked like.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An actual portrait of her would be an extraordinary finding.

    • @lilacgirl-z8w
      @lilacgirl-z8w หลายเดือนก่อน

      As well as that of her husband.

  • @lilacgirl-z8w
    @lilacgirl-z8w หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is isabeau family home still standing?

  • @michellekeith5602
    @michellekeith5602 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like in her time ...and much before ...and after....Royalty was synonymous with Flakey. A quite conspicuous example would be Henry VIII id have been terrified to be anywhere near his court. But i guess the goal was to stay alive and have and see an heir sit on the throne 🙄😳

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately heirs were considered boys while girls were expected to be only worth as a baby maker.

  • @English_Dawn
    @English_Dawn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Marvelous female headdresses during this period.
    If you typically think of a princess most people think of a hennin.
    However Isabeau sports a bourrelet which runs it close, very close.

    • @leeannproctor47
      @leeannproctor47 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Isabeau headgear reminds me of maleficent.

    • @Ravenproctor2966
      @Ravenproctor2966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never understood the horns style.

  • @SyIe12
    @SyIe12 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @saucywench5152
    @saucywench5152 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For the algorithm

  • @Hailey-mx4kc
    @Hailey-mx4kc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joan of Arc next??

  • @leeannproctor47
    @leeannproctor47 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the wasting illness is what cancer used to be called?

  • @stringfellowbalk2654
    @stringfellowbalk2654 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe it was a brain tumor.