I know! Back when I was a kid, and I first tried to C^ on the ship and realized I couldn't gain speed, I was dumbstruck. There isn't a single useful HSP spot either, since the geometry rotates in and out of the water. Nintendo, why no ship speed? Must the player be locked in place, bobbing forever just as the ship is? Is this a metaphor for life, or just a cruel joke? You disappoint me.
There's apparently a duplicate of it floating above JRB if you use Toad's Tool to view JRB, if I recall correctly. To note that it's also bigger on the inside. It's weird. This ship is cursed. The entire bay is cursed.
All of this is literally nothing compared to the Remote Interaction Glitch, which Super Mario 64 DS ABC has to frequently use. That glitch takes about a MILLENNIUM to execute.
th-cam.com/video/yk9uoRYLgR4/w-d-xo.html To summarize the video segment I'm linking: The Remote Interaction Glitch works by giving an object the same ID as another object, which tricks the game into thinking that Yoshi's eating the original object instead of the newly spawned one no matter how far Yoshi is from the original object. However, to get two objects with the same ID, you need to spawn ~4,294,967,000 objects to overflow the counter that gives new objects their ID. Doing that takes about a millennium. Fortunately, taking a millennium is only the worst case. You can save a few centuries if you find a way to spawn more than one item at once, as the first linked video did. But there are legitimate cases where using RIG will take more than a millennium: th-cam.com/video/qEEiSuJdRmg/w-d-xo.html
Of all the single-frame exploits, you'd think talking to someone while taking fatal fall damage would be possible, but of course that's the one thing that doesn't work. Also, I forgot about the prequel to this video and got a good chuckle when I saw the title in my subscriptions.
I found him through the meme but stayed for the content. Many other people also did that. That's why being a meme has benefited him in the long run. And the meme was born out of admiration, not derision.
A press save idea/ question: I was watching some of your old videos and noticed that at 8:12 in "BitFS 0x Ideas" the platform lowers beyond the wooden hexagons. In the remote lava boost video you said if you could find a Pedro spot you could beat the pole 0x but could not find one on the edge of the platform because the distance between ceiling and floor is never more than 1 unit. Is it possible to find a Pedro spot between the platform and the hexagon? It looks like you can get far past the minimum of two units distance. sighting of potential Pedro spot: th-cam.com/video/E6UhkHRF_3Q/w-d-xo.htmlm12s proof of 0x with pedro spot: th-cam.com/video/5b_U9xQlDnc/w-d-xo.htmlm
The Wall Kicks Will Work star is infuriating because the star isn't even in the center of the icy platform. If it were, looks like you could easily reach it 0x
Even though I follow absolutely no coverage on the A Button Challenge on this game or on any game, I've watched this channel enough times that this video still makes me sad
I take it isn’t possible to clone anything inside the volcano, otherwise you could clone a fire at the top of the pole using a HOLP to release from it (and get that star) 0x
It's impossible to perform hat in hand in LLL, because the only wing cap block doesn't have any walls nearby to stop the cap before it moves too far away.
I feel like Pannenkoek is the only person you can call an absolute madlad without it being an insult. You are the best kind of nuts Pannen. Keep fighting the good fight!
It's actually not. Performing a BLJ requires a lot of A presses, so it would be pretty disappointing to see a great guy like him being so disrespectful to ABC by pressing A so many times in a row.
I find it very funny just how outdated this video is. There are still some A presses here we've never saved like Shifting Sand Land and Winged Mario Over the Rainbow, but seeing a video where Cool Cool Mountain and Lethal Lava Land most recently needed an A press saved and we didn't know how to do it shows just how far we've come. Well, how far the ABC team has come. I've done jack shit.
How come that goomba is able to stand there at 7:35 but the mystery goomba in BitS cannot stand on the death barrier? (Unless the death barrier here was disabled)
While it is indeed a shame that the 2^30-1 counter doesn't cause the cannon to fire I'm not sure it would be practical anyway. Assuming it starts at 0 and increments by 1, once per frame, and the game runs at 30 frames per second doesn't that mean it would have taken just over 68 years? Edit: as pointed out in the replies I forgot to devide by 60 minutes in an hour. It's actually 414 days.
Where did you get 68 *years*? (2^30)-1 frames/30 frames per second/60 seconds per minute/60 minutes per hour/24 hours per day = 414.25 days, or just under a year and two months.
You think that's high? SM64DS BBC takes 1368 years, and that's just for one star. There are others that take from 100 to 1000 th-cam.com/video/qEEiSuJdRmg/w-d-xo.html
It's actually a good thing that we can't use the C^ trick on the JRB ship because if we could, then we would have no way of getting onto the JRB ship with the framewalk
0:28 The Ugly Truth of all the amazing Pannenkoek achievements. Imagine the Zen level this guy has attained to sit thru all this iterative BS that mostly lead NO - WHERE ! This kind of predicament is worthy of some weird cursed Dungeons & Dragons foe.
There's a video on this channel called "Pitch Conservation & Yaw Velocity Conservation". That video would answer the question I _think_ you are asking.
For WMotR, could you collect a coin to delay the onset of fall damage long enough to talk to the pink bomb-omb? I don't think that would work, but I wanted to communicate my stupid idea for the 1 percent chance it isn't actually stupid
I dunno what everyone else is complaining about. Thanks for taking the time to explain why things don't work, as well as when they work. I think the "doesn't work" is actually more useful information.
I had no idea there was a floor gap in Cool Cool Mountain that let you reach the Wall Kicks star... is that quicker to do in 16 star than the jumping off the edge way? It's certainly cooler at least... I might have to update my amateur speedrun route.
On the DS version, the pyramid top inevitably takes you to the battle against these brick hands. I was SO frightened when I was like 7 y/o and saw this instead of the secrets.
Bit of a thought for that "dying while talking" trick you tried... do we really NEED to die WHILE talking? Could we not instead just... open the cannon, THEN incur fall damage?
for the one in CCM, there's a slope quite close to that star. is it possible to DR onto it, maybe get up it a little, turn around and Slide-Kick into the star?
3:14 so i assume theres no way found to glitch the death barrier code into not working on any lvl? if so thats a bummer... theres so many cool things i wanted to try but the dang reset happens before i can.... :( hopefully someday in the future someone finds a way to either glitch the detection of mario hitting the barrier or the "fade in" reset code from being initiated/not working when initiated, etc... until owell i guess ill just have to cheat my way past...
Speaking of disappointment, I checked and found that the idea I had for JRB's chest star wouldn't work due to only being able to gain ~150 speed max off that stalagmite. Oh well.
The JRB ship is just the weirdest object in the game imo
I know! Back when I was a kid, and I first tried to C^ on the ship and realized I couldn't gain speed, I was dumbstruck.
There isn't a single useful HSP spot either, since the geometry rotates in and out of the water.
Nintendo, why no ship speed? Must the player be locked in place, bobbing forever just as the ship is? Is this a metaphor for life, or just a cruel joke? You disappoint me.
Is this a joke?
I hate weebs I'm sure
That box that slides around on the ship is funky. The way that Mario can get squished by it if you move just right still confuses me.
There's apparently a duplicate of it floating above JRB if you use Toad's Tool to view JRB, if I recall correctly.
To note that it's also bigger on the inside.
It's weird. This ship is cursed. The entire bay is cursed.
Seeing that many impossible 0x strats at once leads me to a bold hypothesis:
The game could be designed around frequent usage of the *A* button.
Maybe Mario is secretly Jumpman.
pmnt good hypothesis
*Slams your written hypothesis back on your desk with a bright red 0 on it*
WHERES YOUR EVIDENCE!?!?!?!?
fullmetalbleachnote
It’s a hypothesis. It doesn’t have to be right.
Dude his A button is broken what do you expect him to do
lmao imagine the ABC run taking two full years because you have to wait for the cannon to shoot on its own twice
Or waiting on a moving platform for 3 days
All of this is literally nothing compared to the Remote Interaction Glitch, which Super Mario 64 DS ABC has to frequently use. That glitch takes about a MILLENNIUM to execute.
+Turbo Ghast
what.
th-cam.com/video/yk9uoRYLgR4/w-d-xo.html
To summarize the video segment I'm linking: The Remote Interaction Glitch works by giving an object the same ID as another object, which tricks the game into thinking that Yoshi's eating the original object instead of the newly spawned one no matter how far Yoshi is from the original object. However, to get two objects with the same ID, you need to spawn ~4,294,967,000 objects to overflow the counter that gives new objects their ID. Doing that takes about a millennium.
Fortunately, taking a millennium is only the worst case. You can save a few centuries if you find a way to spawn more than one item at once, as the first linked video did. But there are legitimate cases where using RIG will take more than a millennium: th-cam.com/video/qEEiSuJdRmg/w-d-xo.html
@@TurboGhast. I was gonna comment that
67 speed inside the volcano is infeasable. Four years later: 3.4million
and now we down to 235 speed
and it took 25 hours
Appreciate that you gave us time to read the subtitles before moving 👍
i LOVE that
7:25 the music of the star music syncs up with the stage music
I commend you for your powers of observation.
It's the little things in life that make it worth living
this one was the best observation
Please no... I can't take this kind of torture again...
How sad 😢
Most unsatisfying videos 2018
Of all the single-frame exploits, you'd think talking to someone while taking fatal fall damage would be possible, but of course that's the one thing that doesn't work.
Also, I forgot about the prequel to this video and got a good chuckle when I saw the title in my subscriptions.
3:50 We need to _die_
emo pancake man
I DON'T WANT TO DIE
W E N E E D T O D I E
WE NEED TO DIE IN JAPAN
@@falksalt9890 C A N N O N*
4:19 I love how the Bob-omb Buddy slowly turns around with a "wtf" expression.
Pannen I'm sorry you became a meme. You're a smart lad and the world needs more of your type around.
What's so bad about becoming a meme? It exposes a nuanced and refined niche to people who may enjoy it (I know from personal experience lad).
@@123connorpoop Pannen didn't like it, he directly said that's one of the reasons he stopped commentated videos.
I found him through the meme but stayed for the content. Many other people also did that. That's why being a meme has benefited him in the long run. And the meme was born out of admiration, not derision.
read THIS Pannen @Choinkus
Tails The Fox, in his updated faq, he says the real reason he stopped doing commentated videos, which has nothing to do with the meme
4:20
The slow, emotionless turning of the Bob-Omb Buddy towards Mario dying is hilarious.
so many uploads! this is a golden age
i don't know why a video talking about sad and disappointing things can make me happy
A press save idea/ question:
I was watching some of your old videos and noticed that at 8:12 in "BitFS 0x Ideas" the platform lowers beyond the wooden hexagons. In the remote lava boost video you said if you could find a Pedro spot you could beat the pole 0x but could not find one on the edge of the platform because the distance between ceiling and floor is never more than 1 unit. Is it possible to find a Pedro spot between the platform and the hexagon? It looks like you can get far past the minimum of two units distance.
sighting of potential Pedro spot:
th-cam.com/video/E6UhkHRF_3Q/w-d-xo.htmlm12s
proof of 0x with pedro spot:
th-cam.com/video/5b_U9xQlDnc/w-d-xo.htmlm
What's this? A light in the darkness?
Replying just be notified if something comes of this
Possibly
User Name same
Just replying for notifs don't mind me
2:03 MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE
Also the 8 red coin + star one shot
DEJAVU, I VE JUST BEEN TO THIS PLACE BEFORE!
65 G of force can kill a man. While I can't calculate the amount of G's being put upon Mario, I will say it is higher than 3 G.
Rhythm Heaven Gamer knew I should of got the turbo
Thanks for sticking with it for so long, man. It always makes me happy to see more of these videos get made. :)
Okay 2:03 made me laugh unexpectedly really hard 😂😂
mario is a SPEEDY BOi
speeeeeen
*_S P E E N_*
UncommentatedPannem: talks about SM64 quantum physics with great understanding.
Me: Can't get the star from beating Big Boo on top of the mansion
Don’t worry, bro. You’re not alone
You need to long jump to one of the side pillars and long jump back to the central raised platform.
@@meyes5671 lmao for me it's easy
@@w0omylord764
It's strange because that's the exact moment the level design stops holding your hand
7:04 waiting for 414 days for a cannon to fire is perfectly accept... nevermind.
Wrong Nintendo 64 game/youtuber
The Wall Kicks Will Work star is infuriating because the star isn't even in the center of the icy platform. If it were, looks like you could easily reach it 0x
how do we tell him
My astrology friend: All dreams have meaning if you know how to read them
My dreams: 7:44
4:20 look at the way the Bob-omb Buddy just slowly turns to Mario's dead body
7:02 Oh I can already see it coming.
*Waiting for 1.13 years (or more) to save 1x A press*
pannen never stop making videos
* unless you don't wan't to, in which case don't feel like you have to
this is such a funny video without the context of the 0x a press run you're trying to do
Even though I follow absolutely no coverage on the A Button Challenge on this game or on any game, I've watched this channel enough times that this video still makes me sad
I take it isn’t possible to clone anything inside the volcano, otherwise you could clone a fire at the top of the pole using a HOLP to release from it (and get that star) 0x
No Bob-Ombs or caps, unfortunately
jongameaddict
"No caps" Haha, not a problem.
does entering the volcano reset hat in hand?
It's impossible to perform hat in hand in LLL, because the only wing cap block doesn't have any walls nearby to stop the cap before it moves too far away.
Do we know if entering the volcano resets it though? Because that seems like it might be plausible to work around
You just made me so infuriated about so many aspects that I didn't know existed, used, or cared about before
I feel like Pannenkoek is the only person you can call an absolute madlad without it being an insult. You are the best kind of nuts Pannen. Keep fighting the good fight!
Can someone please make an encyclopedia of the "tricks" in this game there are way too many I can't keep up
Ukikipedia.net
A place for all of the lesser known tricks used
If you make a new "Dissappointing Observations" video please add my college grades.
A disappointing observation is SimpleFlips not doing the IRL BLJ.
It's actually not. Performing a BLJ requires a lot of A presses, so it would be pretty disappointing to see a great guy like him being so disrespectful to ABC by pressing A so many times in a row.
BLJ's don't need A Presses in real life, you gay baby.
There's many strats in real life to do a BLJ 0.5x)
For example:Pause buffering works irl)
@@neoxus30 Just tried it, it doesn't work, I ended up doing a backwards triple jump instead because the Z input didn't carry over the pause
My Life #2
Depressing and Naive Observations #2
I find it very funny just how outdated this video is. There are still some A presses here we've never saved like Shifting Sand Land and Winged Mario Over the Rainbow, but seeing a video where Cool Cool Mountain and Lethal Lava Land most recently needed an A press saved and we didn't know how to do it shows just how far we've come. Well, how far the ABC team has come. I've done jack shit.
hey!! you were there to cheer them on!! :D
How come that goomba is able to stand there at 7:35 but the mystery goomba in BitS cannot stand on the death barrier? (Unless the death barrier here was disabled)
THE SEQUEL OF PANCAKE'S DISAPPROVAL UPON SM64!
Wait what is the point of such a counter at 6:55?
While it is indeed a shame that the 2^30-1 counter doesn't cause the cannon to fire I'm not sure it would be practical anyway. Assuming it starts at 0 and increments by 1, once per frame, and the game runs at 30 frames per second doesn't that mean it would have taken just over 68 years?
Edit: as pointed out in the replies I forgot to devide by 60 minutes in an hour. It's actually 414 days.
i would love seeing that in a unabridged complete TAS run Kappa
the stryder7x/pannenkoek collab we've been waiting for, Staying In This Cannon For 414.25 Days Saves 1 A Press
Where did you get 68 *years*? (2^30)-1 frames/30 frames per second/60 seconds per minute/60 minutes per hour/24 hours per day = 414.25 days, or just under a year and two months.
68 years is about 2^31 seconds, probably must have confused it with the year 2038 problem.
You think that's high? SM64DS BBC takes 1368 years, and that's just for one star. There are others that take from 100 to 1000
th-cam.com/video/qEEiSuJdRmg/w-d-xo.html
It's actually a good thing that we can't use the C^ trick on the JRB ship because if we could, then we would have no way of getting onto the JRB ship with the framewalk
Pannen thank you for uploading these videos and letting us see a strange glimpse of the world of Mario Science.
This video is far overdue,but it still made me cry a.little.
The cannon shot was the most impressive one of them all
7:07 Would this work if the enemy was killed before the star was collected?
This is like the satisfying videos with people cleanly slicing/molding/messing with things but with the opposite effect
So infuriating that that damned chest star is still an issue
The final boss of any% ABC is the pole in BitFS
The finals boss in 100% ABC is MWotR
No.
MWotR is secret super boss
The final boss is TTC
0:28 The Ugly Truth of all the amazing Pannenkoek achievements. Imagine the Zen level this guy has attained to sit thru all this iterative BS that mostly lead NO - WHERE ! This kind of predicament is worthy of some weird cursed Dungeons & Dragons foe.
5:46 Crashes Paper Mario
Seriously *HOW DID HE DO THAT*
"So Close, Yet So Far: Official Video"
In 20 years, WMotR is going to be the only star left.
Just like my existence, a disappointing observation
What do the object timers do? Are they useful or manipulable in any way?
Perfect thumbnail
Tune in next time as the adventure continues on:
The Pancake Man Does Several Things and None of them Work
Pannen please. I come on TH-cam to escape reality and you're reminding me of the inevitable.
6:34 Can someone please tell me why this is happening?
There's a video on this channel called "Pitch Conservation & Yaw Velocity Conservation". That video would answer the question I _think_ you are asking.
mario stored his angle from running up a slope, now it messes up his animations. unfortunately it doesn't change his actual rotation, just visual
How much speed would it take to get to the platform right after the pole in Lethal Lava Land?
Honesty, poles should be banned from ever appearing in lava levels.
They fuck things up in SSL, DDD and TTC as well. Just ban them altogether.
PKThoron Not in DDD, they are actually helpful . The one that should also be banned is the one in BitS
For WMotR, could you collect a coin to delay the onset of fall damage long enough to talk to the pink bomb-omb? I don't think that would work, but I wanted to communicate my stupid idea for the 1 percent chance it isn't actually stupid
This is the 3rd pannenkoek video I’ve watched since 5/16/21
I wish for a bug/glitch that removes/moves the Death barrier)
Lmao the bob-omb buddy at 4:22 is all like,
"Hmm? Did I hear- oh. It's you Mario."
Still, Great video.
4:20 Imagine bein' ready to help the one hope of the castle, only to watch him fall 300 feet and shatter every bone in his body instantly
Another Top 25 problems only Speedrunners will relate to
Or care about tbh...
This is somehow even more sad
The only thing you can do is continue searching for the solutions. Don't give up just yet!
Even if it doesn't work you'll just have more material for these disappointment videos.
1:46 this sucks even more considering it would now also save the pyramid star A press (as it’s now 1xA from bottom route)
Pannen, great vid!.
Can we use the flower enemy to twirl and get through the floor to slowly drift to the star?
literally was just reading the source of STROOP lol.
0:38 That is, if you remove wall collision.
2:59 Wouldn’t disabling the death barrier cause the area you’re trying to get into become out of bounds because of not having a floor below it?
When he disabled the death barrier, he just meant making it act like a normal floor that doesn't warp Mario out.
Disappointing observations are my favourite observations!
I dunno what everyone else is complaining about. Thanks for taking the time to explain why things don't work, as well as when they work. I think the "doesn't work" is actually more useful information.
this is the sm64 equivalent of listening to sad songs when youre sad
5:46 ...And meanwhile I'm emulating and struggling to even get the red coins in Wing Cap Tower.
3:50 is actually kinda a hopeful observation: if pannen can figure out how to enter wmotr 0x, then he can also reduce wmotr from 2x to 1x
maf5693 except he would also have to find a way to get to the platform with the higher Cannon 0x
I had no idea there was a floor gap in Cool Cool Mountain that let you reach the Wall Kicks star... is that quicker to do in 16 star than the jumping off the edge way?
It's certainly cooler at least... I might have to update my amateur speedrun route.
6:53 How long would that take, though? Days, weeks?
On the DS version, the pyramid top inevitably takes you to the battle against these brick hands. I was SO frightened when I was like 7 y/o and saw this instead of the secrets.
no its the same
@@blancogohan I know that by now. I never played the N64 version, I only watched speedruns of it online. No one ever battled Eyerok in these.
1:30 - Would it be possible to build up sufficient speed there by using slide kicks on an unreferenced wall?
SuperSupermario24 you can’t recover without A
some of these a presses are so damn tantalizingly close to being removed from the abc it hurts.
Another encouraging video from pannen
What's that object timer for anyways?
Just think of it as things we haven't completely figured out yet.
CCM Theme Starts.mp4
Mario Screams.mp4
3:33 What if you rolled onto the treadmill closer towards the wall? Mario wouldn't break free since the vector would be pointing past the wall plane.
The Bob Omb turned around when Mario was dying lol.
There we go, a perfectly fine day is now ruined.
My greatest regret in life will be that I was unable to protect Pannen's smile.
1:33 Well well well is that so
YES this is the bittersweet video we all wanted!
Bit of a thought for that "dying while talking" trick you tried... do we really NEED to die WHILE talking? Could we not instead just... open the cannon, THEN incur fall damage?
No
for the one in CCM, there's a slope quite close to that star. is it possible to DR onto it, maybe get up it a little, turn around and Slide-Kick into the star?
Hey at 1:37 is it possible to use that firebar in any way to hop up to the platform and avoid an a press from the pole?
No
3:14 so i assume theres no way found to glitch the death barrier code into not working on any lvl? if so thats a bummer... theres so many cool things i wanted to try but the dang reset happens before i can.... :( hopefully someday in the future someone finds a way to either glitch the detection of mario hitting the barrier or the "fade in" reset code from being initiated/not working when initiated, etc... until owell i guess ill just have to cheat my way past...
I believe you can abuse code not change it
Speaking of disappointment, I checked and found that the idea I had for JRB's chest star wouldn't work due to only being able to gain ~150 speed max off that stalagmite. Oh well.
6:46 dude... that means each cannon would take a YEAR to fire. a whole fucking year. pannen, are you okay?
the most depressing one is, having the music restart rather than just adding in the soundtrack for that part yourself, to save the annoyance ;)
2:02 looks like a fun time
For me it'd be more like "looks like a fun way to immediately throw up".
@@SSM24_
Why not both
you got me there