At the same time Phantom Liberty was absolutely phenomenal. One way or another wait for gameplay, worst case scenario wait few days after the game comes out. There is no reason to have an opinion at this point. There is many ways they can screw it up and many ways they can make it work, only time will tell.
@@Cyrsztof No reason? The disastrous launch they just had with CP2077 and then making another complete shift for their other IP, isn't enough to be skeptical? I very much have an opinion and it's not a good one. When developers show me who they are, I tend to believe them.
Witcher 3, The Lady of Space and Time, Ciri is literally teleporting through dimensions. She has crazy elder blood powers. This whole trailer I'm like, surely she is going to teleport. Instead she is just a witcher? I mean, they can try to ration it to me I guess, but this seems like a step down for her honestly. They set her up to be pretty powerful. I really liked Ciri at the end of Witcher 3, I don't need her to be Geralt reincarnated.
pretty sure she still have that power, just like asmon said, cant really base it off a trailer, we gotta wait until the game came out to see whats the deal with her
@@Not_CIA i think they retcon her whole Story She not only have no powers but her son was suppose to be the heir of the world after "Ragnarok" So now she can't get pregnant by A) being a Witcher or B) 40 years old 🤣
Ciril looks mature, looks agressive and looks menacing. She conveis perfectly the fact that now she is a Witcher like Geralt was. I don't care if she's pretty or ugly, I care of what the design tells me. And now she looks like she has killed monsters for years, like it should.
In the Witcher books by Andrzej Sapkowski, Ciri of Cintra does not officially become a Witcher in the traditional sense. However, she does undergo training and has some exposure to the Witcher ways. In The Lady of the Lake, Ciri is given the Witcher's mutations, but they do not fully take. While she does receive some training in swordsmanship and other aspects of Witcher life, including combat and monster hunting, her mutations do not provide her with the enhanced abilities that typical Witchers have. Ciri's journey is unique because she has great potential and is tied to the world in a way that most Witchers are not, due to her Elder Blood. At the end of the books, while Ciri is not a Witcher in the strictest sense, she embodies many of the qualities and has the skills associated with one, but her story is more about her unique destiny rather than following the traditional Witcher path.
@@eatMY455 you claim that yet I've seen nothing to indicate that whatsoever. I'm willing to bet you're somebody who's never read the books nor played the games and you're just trying to stir up bulshit LOL
Considering she's supposed to be a unique individual in time and space and magic exists, I think it should be easy for CDPR to come up with a plausible reason why she's a normal Witcher now and doesn't have the powers she had in the Witcher 3.
I think Ciri looked odd in the trailer the same way Geralt looked odd in the Witcher 3 trailer. I don't even think the ending of the trailer was cringey, she had damn near the same line Geralt had and it was clearly an homage to it. They'll definitely need to have one hell of a narrative around how she was able to become a Witcher, but as of right now this is a game I intend to play on release.
The cat school had sorcerer make a modified witcher formula for them that had a higher success rate and had a handful of females survive it. The process was prohibitively expensive using extremely rare ingredients so it didn't really gain traction in the other schools. It looks like Ciri is wearing a lynx medallion in this cinematic so she probably went through this modified cat school transformation.
I feel like a lot of the Asmongold viewers who know all the Witcher lore are going to be a vocal minority lol. The trailer looks fine honestly. I loved the Witcher 3, so I’ll probably wait for reviews to come out before I buy it but I have no reason to think it’s gonna be awful before we’ve really seen anything
@@johndoe7017 Considering the majority if the original Devs are gone I’d say that’s a solid indicator that the game won’t be up to standards that the series has set.
I don't mind Ciri being the MC, but CDprojekt embracing ESG has me feeling cautious... Also this probably isn't coming out until 2028 so this trailer should not have come out in my opinion. I hate it when things are revealed too early. I am disappointed with Bethesda, but revealing Fallout 4 a few months before release in 2015 was fantastic 👍
The problem I have with her being the MC is she has to be hardcore nerfed for it to make any sense. Ciri is basically a demigod, pretty much nothing is actually a threat to her if she decides to use her powers, and the only reason she was holding back before was the Wild Hunt, which have been destroyed so now there's just not really a reason for her to not use her powers whenever and wherever she pleases.
Why would you think it isn't due out until 2028 or that they shouldn't have dropped a trailer now? After getting away with the cyberflunk launch they can do whatever they want... Like releasing trash games then charging more for the fix years later in the form of an "expansion". "Gamers" love to eat shit, CDPR has learned this and are now just another shit show like so many others.
She was set to be the protagonist of any future Witcher release back when the 3rd game's final DLC came out. One major ending option on the base game had Ciri continuing to train as a Witcher, Blood & Wine DLC had Geralt retire. Fans ASKED for a Ciri lead sequel. These things shouldn't be ignored because of recent trends in the industry.
The main reason I'm disappointed is because the original devs of witcher 3 said they wanted a new storyline with a new protagonist set near the next conjunction of the spheres. Those devs are no longer with cd project red and the director left too. Now we have witcher 4 with ciri who looks slightly different and has a completely different sounding voice. I don't think we're getting something on the witcher 3 level.
Not to mention she literally had god powers and could TIME TRAVEL her story should be done. I hold W3 as the best game of all time and seeing the heart and any love I had for the company die is hard
still current devs working on the witcher 4 are pretty much those who worked on cyberpunk and story in that game is really awesome (imo better than in w3) so hopefully they will not dissapoint
@@HPblu3 yeah okay but let me retort: doesnt that sound dumb and generic? they can write whatever story they want and went with the old tripe of "she lost her powers my guy"
Ciri looks different, but in some angles you can definitely see the resemblance like in 7:35 and i believe the lighting and the fact that this is a cinematic played a huge part in why she looks different. I'm not bothered by it, but what does worries me is the fact that she's a full blown Witcher now. I'm not sure I like that. But, I do hope CD Projekt Red will give a reasonable explanation as to why she's a Witcher. They changed a lot of shit even from their own previous games, and they always manage to make it make sense, so until I get my hands on the game and actually play the game I won't jump to conclusions. I always wanted a Witcher game with Ciri as the main character.
I’m curious to see what’s happened with her Elder Blood, because that and potentially her death were the main reasons why Ciri never underwent the Trial of the Grasses. I’ve read all of the books, and I’ve always considered Ciri as an honorary Witcher for her skill and magical ability. I don’t think she needs the Witcher mutations because she is far more powerful than any Witcher. I’m still very excited for this game as a huge fan of Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk. Edit: In the books, Ciri’s physiology is different from being a Source, her Elder Blood, and Witcher herbs that hastened her development and made her very fit. When Geralt found her in Brokilon, Eithne made Ciri drink the Brokilon Water, which is a very powerful toxin/hallucinogenic that indoctrinates young girls into becoming dryads. Geralt said he was immune to the effects because he was a Witcher. Ciri was also immune to it as well. It brings up some interesting speculation about how the Trials would affect her, and I hope CDPR is thinking along these lines. With these thoughts and speculations, Ciri undertaking Witcher mutations isn’t the most far fetched thing, but I’m still skeptical of how they’ll explain it. I think CDPR’s biggest hurdle is explaining how Geralt, Triss, and Yennefer were okay with Ciri doing this. The mortality rate is exceptionally high, and in Blood of Elves, Geralt and Triss were afraid of Ciri dying like countless others.
That's about where I am. I love the books and W3 and Witcher Ciri gameplay and narratively makes sense so as long as the in world explanation makes sense I'm happy.
@@aldendiaz1165 That's not confirmed but more speculated a possibility as she did confront the white frost and reached end of prophecy and purpose of her blood. I suspect most likely lore they're gonna go with is that confrontation took away her power making her fully human with a little bit of sorc and underwent witcher mutations thanks both to her increased survivability as a sorc but also the additional research and technology discovered in blood and wine to make creating new witchers more possible and safer.
Yeah that is why I found this Trailer a bit weird. She's more interesting without the Witcher Mutations, her inability to use Witcher Potions, but access to a lot of difficult to control power, and her portals and teleportation. Like I have no problem with us playing as Ciri, but I'd rather play some kind of half-sorceress that is focused on melee and using the Witcher tools she can have access too and how different that would feel from Geralt. In the Trailer she kind of just feels like a re-skinned Geralt and all the things that make her interesting don't show up in the Trailer, at least to me.
17:32 Ciri is too powerful to be the mc, they will need to come up with a VERY good justification for that to make sense in the story. Or just pull the “it's just a game” card out of their ass
Not true, they built her up in the previous games to be this powerful and a powerful MC isn't a bad thing. Havent you played Shadow of Mordor/War? It can still be good.
I mean we never knew what happened while she was confronting the White Frost at the end of the game. Maybe she used up all of her power to prevent it? Consider than next time we see her in the ending where she becomes a Witcher, there is no clear sign to indicate that she still has her Elder Blood power.
@@life09m within the world of the Witcher games, you can’t unless you escalate the power levels to something even bigger than multi dimensional threats. By the end of Witcher 3, she was the closest thing to a God considering her powers and the threat she could represent.
Anyone who beat Witcher 3 (particularly the dlc) will know Ciri was going to be the next protag. That choice was made long before woke culture girl boss bs. Ciri isn't supposed to be pretty, neither was Geralt but pretty protags sell games. I'm looking forward to it so far, I am curious how they're going to explain Ciri being a Witcher, probably something to do with her fancy new lynx medallion. My only issue with the trailer is I was getting big uncanny valley vibes from most of the characters, I'm sure it'll better in the actual game but something looked off about all the characters to me.
Things that worries me about Witcher 4 is switching to UE engine instead of using their own engine, every UE game ive tried had awful AF optimization and ridiclious requirements compared to what they offered. Worst of all is that they are working with the Sweetbaby Inc mental asylum.
Excactly what I am thinking. Unless They are the first studio to not cut endless corners it could Be well optimized and theoretically better then the Red engine…however the Red engine does lighting so well, it’s almost like they are price cutting and throwing away the golden goose along with the rest of the flock of red engine specialists
UE swap is the thing that makes me most skeptical too. All of the UE5 games look literally the same. So much so I keep finding myself googling "[game name] engine" to see all of them are in UE5. A lot of people say that it is not the engine but the developers that cut corners and go with the default stuff. I hope CDPR manages to personalize UE5 to it's full potential and manage to keep that authentic feel of Witcher games. With all this in mind, I still believe that monopoly of a single engine (or rather being oppressively popular) can't be good for games in the long run. Since I find myself abstaining from buying new games, especially RPGs with open worlds since they are literally so SAME but DIFFERENT. It gives the feeling of been there done that.
The switch to UE should not be concerning, the other things are. UE allows multiple artists to work on the same map at the same time which not a lot of game engines offer. The physics of unreal are easy to use out of the box and generally work well (lets not count ashes of creation in this since I believe their switch was rather just importing an already existing project into a new framework and they still have a lot to do to make it up to standards). I know that anti aliasing sucks and all but if there's a way to not use lumen and proprietary lighting effects then it could end up working great. Engines at the end of the day are not all just graphics but also gameplay logic collections primarily.
@@TheDablaster I understand why they decided to swap to it. There is only 4 years of difference between Witcher 2 and Witcher 3. Clearly 4 years of development was enough to create a marvelous game like Witcher 3. It is clear that their reasoning was not to make it faster but "cheaper & easier". Yet as a consumer, I don't see how this is of any relevance. IF the end product is worse quality but is cheaper & easier to develop it is not necessarily for the benefit of the consumer, hence it is objectively irrelevant. I doubt engine was the one and only issue when it comes to abysmal production and release of the CP2077.
That's a great idea. I love the idea of going all the way back to when the Witchers were much more common, the monsters where thick and the world was even darker! We could choose our school, make our own Witcher, go through the trials as like a prologue. See our Wticher brothers in training die off one by one. Thanks for the fun thought experiment I spent awhile just thinking about that and everything I got from the books and it would be so much fun to see that.
Ciri is a time traveler. They could make her time travel into the past and somehow she gets stuck there and that is where this trailer takes place. She can undergo the trial of the grasses because that knowledge would exist back then. And you can have Young Geralt, Yen, Triss, Vesemir, etc. If this is an aged up Ciri, it would be odd that the villagers even recognize her costume as a witcher, because Witchers are basically extinct except for Geralt.
@@Andy_Sidaristhey aren’t all about her… she’s just the goal for Geralt. Most of the books are in his head tbh. They should just give you the option to not have to play as a woman is all.
Ciri went through witcher training, but never got the FULL Witcher treatment to become one. Her eyes can NEVER be obtained. I'd rather have her be using her elder blood abilities alongside her Witcher training.
Yeah I've no idea wtf you're talking about. You recovered the recipe for the trail of the grasses in Kaer Morhen, she could absolutely be subjected to it after the Witcher 3 ending. Maybe you just never met Uma 🤷♂️
@@extermin8or3 but why would she, 70% of people who do it die, its not even meant to be done as an adult and Ciri's elder blood powers are way more significant than any power a witcher can obtain, so I really hope they give a good reason for it, otherwise they are just retconning stuff, because its convenient to them.
The whole witcher 4 trailer boilded down to a minor side quest of witcher 3. There's a side quest in witcher 3 where Geralt has to make the decision - you kill the beast but the village will become barren and abandoned or leave the villagers be so they keep sacrificing peaple to the beast.
idgaf about Ciri being the main character, the main beef i have with CD project red is that they will use UE5 instead of the already tried and developed red engine. That means we're in for another stutterfest that is most likely going to come out unfinished as cyberpunk and stalker 2. Even after "fixing" it most players wont be able to enjoy anything more than a 30fps with DLSS on performance with FG, except if you have the latest Nvidia GPU which they used to render this trailer and are going to expect you buy along side with the game. At least with cyberpunk they were just starting to use all the new "toys" of the engine and after years of ironing out bugs and learning how to work on it, they abandon it for UE5, only to begin all over again.
Let's be honest here. The Red Engine has MANY bugs with most games they release using it. Sure, they fix the game along the way, but let's not act like it works perfectly fine. There are problems. Not that UE5 is any better, either.
This is literally the dumbest thing ever. People have completely lost the plot in this community and the fact that Asmon is treating this as some kind of serious matter worth discussing is insane to me. I'm sorry but it's becoming clear that this anti-woke movement has gone too far and you guys are losing grip. I can't bring myself to defend y'all anymore after this.
I think experiencing this pattern of girlbossification of most male media like indie Ann jones really put a lot of male audience on the defensive. I want to wait and see
Your argument is valid, but on the flip side there are those who have read books and played the games and then what? We just ignore the lore and consume product? I get some people want to be represented but don’t ignore the lore and stories just for brownie points…
@@joebyron2984 i doubt most of the complainers played the previous games or read the books. for example: geralt died in the books and came back to life with zero explanation in the first game
Geralt literally gave her a silver sword at the end of witcher 3, canon ending. He had one made for her. He basically made her his successor. Game story departed from the books ten years ago. Ciri wanted to ba a witcher more than anything else. Making her one is 100% the right thing to do.
The only thing that I’m afraid of is the use of UE5. I can already see the bad optimisation and the heavy reliance on GPU upscaling and frame generation.
That has nothing to do with unreal engine. That has to do with lazy or low talent artist and modelers. Poe2 is a great example of how lazy development got. If you turn off anti aliasing, you end up with a very grainy look basically vertices stacked on top of each other. Usually caused by using mit map type style procedural generation without any clean up. The reason lazy devs or low talent devs are doing this is probably not because of their talent but the time constraints their given to make stuff leading to the requirement of needing to use those technologies to do the automatic "smoothing" that the developer use to do. In addition a artist may make a high quality LOD, but then told to rework it with these details or take away other details or its not rainbowy enough, once you spend a month reworking one model. You may stop "cleaning" it up. So the technologies become nessecary on the user end otherwise you end up with the real product which is usually a rushed cash grab anyways.
Black myth wukong was made in unreal 5 and it's mind-blowing in graphics. Problem is lazy dei artists who are more interested in sending messages than to make great game.
@@JayGalatica There are things like CLOUD tech coming out in the latest update for UE5 which REQUIRE TAA to not appear dithered.. It truly is part of UE5, and laziness/inexperience of devs. This is why there is a massive petition to make a fork of UE5 focused on "game development only", instead of the mostly cinema and animation focused development it's currently under. There are multiple things in UE5 which require TAA to smooth out dithering, at this very moment. *Hopefully, this can all be changed lest we face a future of unyielding Vaseline screen.* (since everything's going to UE)
As a a guy that does lots of video projects for work one thing to consider is lens compression on the look of a face. The close ups her face looks weird but it’s a wide angle lens with an extreme close up to create a sense of fear and paranoia. If you look at the shots of her from a distance she looks much better.
You know, for some reason I never thought to apply my photography knowledge and how lenses work to games before. Even though I know they film these and then animate them.
She looks older than she did in 3. You know, because she's older than in 3. I hate uglifying of women in video games as much as the next guy, but this isn't a Spiderman 2 MJ or Horizon Forbidden West Aloy. She's not ugly. I wouldn't even say she's less attractive than before. She's just older.
She was trained as a mage and a witcher in the books. She carries on after Geralt is run through with a pitchfork at the end of Lady of the Lake (some might argue Geralt died and was forced back to life by CDPR to even make the first game) and Ciri was the natural legacy in the last scene of the book. It is the proper progression the Ciri carries on after Geralt and as a very, very involved witcher fan, my only major catch involves her use of a potion. Humans typically have to micro-dose witcher potions due to their metabolism, so that was an odd one.
Yea but she is not a human, she went through the Trail of the grasses DRURING the time skip between witcher 3 and 4, and just to add to the fire, she did the transformation while she is 21 years old. Its just not fun how they are gonna ruin a perfectly good character.
@@debbiegilmour6171 Imagine the story arc where Ciri goes through the trials. The struggle, the risk, the tension, and then finally when its complete, she dawns the witcher sthick. Man... so much wasted potential to do it in a off screen time skip. Reading through comments i can see passionate people that have better ideas of how to progress her story and develeop her in to a great character for the series. God, i just hope i am wrong and it will be great, but it seems the core team of witcher 3 is gonne and the company is losing its way, and now the new guard does not want to honor the legacy of the witcher, rather they will make their own and shape it how they see fit.
@@Mr.Rhox69 Somebody mentioned on reddit that they said in interview that she'll not start as witcher but will go through trial in game. If that is true my bet is on prologue.
I think everybody forgot how people was complaining about Witcher 3 when it was released. Like the combat system for example and that the graphics was nerfed. Now everybody is saying it's a masterpiece.
The graphical downgrade was complained, but I never saw anything about combat. Most people disliked 2's combat, and 99% of people haven't even played 1. And out of the 1% most didn't like the combat in 1 either (me being the weird one who thought it was okay, definitely better than 2's). So that statement just sounds weird.
Witcher 3's combat was always one of its weak points, so frankly that criticism held up. People NEVER criticized Geralt's design or the story... you know the things that are integral to an RPG.
Imagine being pissed you´re playing as a woman. I don´t care, man. I could play a houseplant if the character is written good enough to keep me invested. Stop being incels and just enjoy a good story. Also, in the trailer you see, she´s not wearing the Wolf amulett but the cat, from the cat school of witchers. to answer you question at 21:20
To be fair to the books: Ciri referred to herself as a witcher on multiple occasions. Metaphorically speaking, she slew monsters in the last 2 books, targeting immoral individuals who committed horrible crimes. So I argue following on her footsteps is reasonable. What concerns me is the suggestion that she might have undergone the trials. This seems unlikely on several reasons: 1) the procedure is not common knowledge and thus difficult to replicate. 2) the mutations have a very low survival rate. 3) the trials are usually performed on children (of prophecy) to increase success rate. 4) none of the witchers Ciri knew would have agreed to subject her to such procedure. 5) there‘s no reason for her to do so, she carries Elder blood, making her the most powerful being in the Witcher-verse. She can swap between space and time, perform powerful magic exceeding every Mage of the lodge. Even if she loses her connection, she will find it eventually again (as it occurred before when Selborne telepathically touched her). So there is absolutely no need for her to risk her life by undergoing the trials, when she could kill monsters way more efficiently with her deeply embedded powers. The only plausible explanation I can imagine is that Ciri might have undergone minor enhancements by consuming herbs, aligning with the druid warrior caste from which the witchers are thought to have originated from. Alternatively, she simply wanted to sterilize herself to deter any interests in her placenta and genetic legacy.
Maybe it will be something like "She doesnt use her powers anymore (or barely) as to not attract otherworldly beeings invading this world again" like what happened with the Wild Hunt. Or the Elder Bloods powers just vanished/fizzled out slowly after closing the gate to the Aen Elle world of the White Hunt.
None of this makes sense, she shouldn't be able to go through the trial of the Grasses and the devs confirmed she did mutate herself and by doing that they broke her entire character's story and power set. She can't use her Elder Blood because for whatever reason she doesn't have it anymore in this trailer! That's not who Ciri is! The devs broke the very foundations of the lore and of Ciri's entire story! They changed her character from the books and from the previous games! That's what people are upset about.
@ interesting thought! But why would the trials inhibit her Elder blood powers, was this somewhere confirmed too? At some point in the trailer you can clearly see how Ciri was drawing energy from a source. This ability was just one of many magical expressions inherited by her genes (among others like psionic and foresight). So in that sense I don‘t really think that the devs are going to nerf her permanently, overall she never clearly controlled her powers
BaF-aficionado, I love the depth of your comment-it’s refreshing to see someone engaging with the lore thoughtfully rather than just jumping to conclusions. You’re absolutely right that Ciri often referred to herself as a Witcher, and not just in name-her actions in the later books, targeting criminals and “human monsters,” embody what being a Witcher is all about. Following in those footsteps feels like a natural evolution for her character. That said, I’d argue there’s room for speculation about her undergoing some form of mutation or enhancement. You raise excellent points about the Trials: the secrecy, the survival rate, the age factor, and the likelihood that Geralt or Vesemir would never agree to it. But if CDPR wanted to explore a version of the process tailored to Ciri’s physiology-perhaps leveraging her Elder Blood as a safeguard-it’s not entirely implausible. Especially given the Cat School’s history of experimentation, or the possibility of a new Witcher school with unorthodox methods (like the hinted School of the Lynx). Your point about her powers exceeding the need for Witcher enhancements is well taken. Ciri’s ability to traverse time and space, perform magic, and access her Elder Blood makes her far more powerful than a typical Witcher. But power isn’t always the same as purpose. Ciri’s connection to the Witcher path has always been about more than raw strength-it’s about her identity, her upbringing, and her bond with those who trained her. Choosing to take on that mantle, even partially, could be a way for her to reconcile her past with her future. The idea of minor enhancements or sterilization is also fascinating and would align well with her story. It’s a subtle, grounded way to explain her connection to Witcher potions and abilities without risking the larger implications of the full Trials. It would also add a layer of complexity to her character-a deliberate choice to ensure her freedom from being exploited for her genetic legacy. Ultimately, CDPR seems to be leaning into the ambiguity of Ciri’s evolution, and honestly, that’s what makes it so exciting. The potential for storytelling here is immense, and I hope they explore all the nuances you’ve mentioned while staying true to her character. Thanks for such a thoughtful take-it’s a pleasure seeing real fans of the lore break it down like this!
Ciri's Elder Blood would reject the alchemical process (the Trial of the Grasses), so it make no sense how she can become a Witcher. Furthermore, she is the most powerful sorcerer so there is no need for her to even attain these powers. I'm not sure how they can spin this story to force this title on her, but it doesn't make sense.
She lost her powers in the "canon" ending in Witcher 3. Then Geralt gave her a silver sword. He basically made her his successor in Witcher 3 already. As for the trials, if anyone should be an exception to the rule, then she should be.
-She is the most powerful sorcerer -Elder Blood would reject the alchemical process (the Trial of the Grasses) These two statements are contradictory. She teleports to different dimensions and you think she figure a way to become a Witcher?
there is an extremely expensive alternative Witcher formula developed by the cat school with a higher success rate and known female survivors that was stolen and disseminated to the other schools. It's cost prohibitive due to the rare materials. Ciri seems to be wearing a lynx medallion so she probably sourced the materials and survived this modified cat school witcher trial.
@@bradybuttataki Yeah I read up a bit about this school. It still doesn't explain why Ciri would go through the process if she is already a powerful sorcerer. They only way I can see this working is if she lost all her powers as another commenter "kindly" pointed out, but she would still have her Elder Blood. Anyway I don't mind playing as Ciri provided she is not overpowered and it fits within the canon of the universe. Most of us are just tired of girl-bosses, ugly characters and reaching for a "wider audience". As the saying goes, "you can't please everyone", and therefore we are wary of new games because we have become good and recognizing the patterns.
8:00 Even though they destroyed it, trial of grasses was performed on Uma by Yen to retransform him into Avallach. Maybe they did it for Ciri, too. Would be interesting to see how they decided to do that knowing how protective Yen and Geralt are for Ciri and Geralt hates the trial.
They did half of the trial on Uma and as you said everyone protested it. I can't see any situation where any of them would accept or perform the trial on her and to do so would be pointless as she's already more powerful than any witcher.
@@johnnythegreat6568 Tbf, Ciri has a cat(Lynx?) madallion. She could very well done the trial without either Yens or Geralts blessing. And CDPR could write about how they managed to do the trial on Ciri as we do know they stopped trying to do it on girls in the books. Maybe a new method came to light that made the trial possible for girls. Or something akin to that. Maybe Ciris blood was the key or something something. I just hope they explain it good in witcher 4 and that we do not just start with mutated witcher Ciri and actually get to see the process. Personally can't wait for Witcher 4.
@@Raizan-IOAll I hear is ppl mad she's "ugly" or she can't be a Witcher which hasn't been confirmed in any way. All I see in the trailer is that she's the main protagonist now and she's hunting monsters like a Witcher. Also I think she looks way hotter in that trailer.
The trailer was fine. The cat eyes on Ciri is an interesting detail. Last I checked Vesemir was the last person alive who knew the secrets of the Trial of Grasses. Since Vesemir dies in W3, it make you wonder how she underwent that ritual? She looks to be in the mid to late 30's in the trailer. She is in her early 20's in W3, so we are looking at a time leap of about 15 years. Witchers and sorceresses age slowly, so Geralt and Yennefer should both still be alive.
Very alive yes, however and apparently she had undergone the trials now…. Doesn’t that mean she also ages slower? We all have questions and speculation, some are happy for another girlboss doing all a man can, some are a tad upset because some things don’t add up… I say let’s wait.. and if we don’t like it we’ll… we can ignore it and move on! 🤷🏽♂️
The trial of Grasses is the only trial needed for mutagens and potions to function, the remaining trials are more or less combat trials. And Grasses is a scientific method involving alchemy. Scientific methods can be rediscovered, improved, refined and tailored to subject physiology.
@@MarcusVeyGood point, and it may be that it was not exactly the original Trial of the Grasses, but a method with similar results. Unless Vesemir wrote that shit down somewhere and they find it written somewhere, however they choose to explain it.
I played the Horizon series twice, but after the strong women pulled apart every last white straight male, it's just not fun anymore... I am inside a big place where every woman has to be strong in games and it pulls apart tons of new games from me... Also, ciri looks like Chad.
It makes sense since in lore of the game, Geralt's arc already ended in Witcher 3. But considering CDPR's hiring practices and the launch of Cyberpunk, it's better to just wait for people content creators to play the game and see if you like it. Personally, I'm also skeptical considering they nerfed Ciri in the trailer, she can't even teleport when she already mastered her powers and even in the early game of Witcher 3 she could do it.
Most fans that were following the developments had an inkling that Ciri was gonna be MC this time around. I think the problem here is that it was confirmed through interviews that in the 4th game Ciri is supposed to have gone through the Witcher Trials and does not appear in the trailer to be able to teleport. That's some shaky ground in terms of writing - because Vesemir was the last remaining Witcher who even remotely knew how the Trials were supposed to go meaning Ciri would need to take a trip back in time if they intend to have her go though that. That then would beg the question of WTF happened where Ciri can't teleport now, and why she can use magic, since actual magic has been lost to her since she willingly gave it up in the Korath Desert. Let's not forget that CDPR royally fucked up in how they wrote Yennefer in Witcher 3, so it's not out of their realm to entirely ruin Ciri's character. The core crux of my fear is that Ciri is going to be written in a way that erases what made her stand out and replace her with a female Geralt clone. Not to mention it would be book-lore inaccurate to have a female Witcher - and while CDPR hinted that maybe the Cat school had figured that out, you're talking about Ciri having to find a completely different school bare minimum and considering that most Witcher schools tend to hide their locations... CDPR now has to come up with a full backstory to all that and I'm willing to bet it's gonna be a coin toss on whether or not they don't step on their own toes in the writing.
Someone came up with the trial of grasses. No one remembers how to make the potion now, but is it really so insane to think they could find the recipe somewhere? That they might recreate it even without the recipe by understanding the magics involved and using Ciri's elder blood? Or they may travel to a land more distant than where the story has been so far and find someone who still knows how the formula was made? There are all possible ways that are within the lore to recreate the formula.
Vesimir was the only WITCHER, but Witchers didn't invent the trials. The mages did. The process can be rediscovered, refined even, if there was a desire or need to do so. Its an area that once it worked, there wasn't much need to continue development at the time, and it got ignored, but if a need arose, the research could be restarted. We don't know a lot from this trailer. Some of her powers look new, the medalion we have no context for. Did she make it herself? is it a keepsake from a friend or mentor? Who knows. Did she learn at a school, or continue learning from Geralt? Did she learn enough on her own as a youngster and the rest is field experience? There is nothing saying women can't be Witchers, just that no women had either survived or perhaps tried. Ciri was already ingesting the various mushrooms they use and they were changing her, her bloods magic might project her, shes magically strong, other mages might have helped the process, making it much safer than just a bunch of witchers in a dirty dungeon following a written process they don't understand. There is still every possibility they fuck up the writing as they move into complete new writing territory with no basis in the books, but we'll see. Im hoping its great, but as usual, no pre-orders.
@@AleksandrStrizhevskiy Yes. This is stated very, very clearly in W1 & W2 that it is effectively impossible without re-doing the entire discovery process (hundreds to thousands of orphans used for experimentation to re-create the results of what was before). The ability to make Witchers is lost, permanently. This is why Leo could never become a Witcher (even if he had survived). The time of when Witchers were created ,vs the 'now (Witcher 1+)' is very different, mages do not have as much freedom or control, that they can just grab up a few thousand orphans and go to town on them without massive scrutiny. The only other (semi-realistic) way, would be for Ciri to go back in time, and yank one of the mages that knew how to do it, and have it do the process on her, or bring him back to the 'present' and have him teach someone how to do the mutations. While Yennifer would probably be up for it. Considering all the other Witcher's perspective of this (extreme hatred of the very concept of this idea), Ciri would most definitely 'NOT' do that, so you'd have to retcon the entire personality and dynamics of her father figures (Witchers). So no, it makes no sense to have Ciri undergo mutations.
@SknCommonLisper You're skipping over the possibility that a "lost tomb" could be found with the formula. For example in the mage's archives. Or another witcher school in a more distant land still retained the formula somewhere.
1 - The Witcher mutations cannot be recreated. 2 - Ciri is far more powerful than any Witcher due to her Elder Blood. 3 - Witcher eyes on Ciri are inconsistent with established lore. 4 - Geralt would never let her suffer the Witcher path. 5 - It undermines Ciri’s individuality and feels like a forced, unearned rewrite. Forcing her into the Witcher mold would erase her individuality and reduce her to a trope - something she’s never been.
@@emillundqvist8126She never underwent the Trial of Grasses so she can't drink potions and she wouldn't have the yellow cat eyes. They are just retconning lore at this point
She wanted to be a witcher...it is what she wanted. Maybe not go through the trials but its not like they cannot come up with some magical work around for her to be able to drink them
@vlad8718 imo "bEcAuSe mAgIc" has never been a good excuse for any lore retconning. And she's already a time-bending, teleporting space wizard so I don't see why they needed to make her a Witcher anyway
If we go by the books and the ending of witcher 3 blood and wine dlc, it makes sense ciri would be next, just an unfortunate timing given the optics since it's all going on with women replacing men in a lot of games and media as well as just a lot of women characters right now so it just seems like "another one of them". I think the game will do fine most likely and could be positively received, but with a lot of the staff leaving and a culture shift there the last 4 years or so, it could be concerning. I get a gut feeling the game will be underwhelming and would be lucky to sell 1/3rd as much as the Witcher 3. Not that no one wants ciri as a lead, just that less people want ciri as lead vs geralt. I would have LOVED a geralt lead, ciri secondary.
They seem to have removed her Elder Blood powers and just made her a generic Witcher, which really shouldn't work A. she's grown, the Trial doesn't work on adults (the trial also doesn't work well on elves, as per Witcher 3.) 2. Every girl they tried it on, it killed them, only 3 in 10 boys survived. They've completely ruined what made Ciri special to go "look look! Women can be witcher too!" Its tragic how little they seem to understand what they were meant to write.
@@Sillvester33 We don't know anything about what happend to her Elder Blood powers. And we see her using magic. Witcher that uses magic. Yep, nothing special. Trial doesn't work on regular adults because of body's willingness to adapt and change which is why they only try to do it to prepubescent children. But its is possible to do with and adult, like they mostly did with Uma/Avallac'h. There were female witchers in the lore. Girls die a lot more than boys(which already die a lot) during the trial because girls are on average significantly weaker; not just for the fact that they are girls. (So most schools stopped even trying to make girls undergo the trial a long time ago). Still doesn't mean its not possible. It's tragic how little some people seem to understand what is being portrayed in these stories you pretend to be fans of.
It's not "just and unfortunate timing". We know cdpr took esg money, we know they developed a woke culture internally recently and they work with sweet baby inc. Cdpr is lost and Witcher 4 will be the first game to show that.
Have you heard of the tale of Samus Aran the Bounty Hunter? It's a tale that happened in 1986. Or Lara Croft from 1996? Knock it off with this shit about 'wamans replace man'. Have you heard of Alien with Ripley Sci-Fi Heroine the last survivor of the Nostromos from 1979? I could go on.
I don’t understand how people want a stellar blade looking character in a realistic Medieval based world these people are still doing human sacrifices how often do you think they shower didn’t play the other games but this looks good to me
You obviously didn't play the other games then, as they had attractive main character women that's weren't necessarily stellar blade level but far above what Ciri looked in the trailer. I usually ignore the realism argument as it is often applied in a cherry-picked manner to support whatever one wants. It is a matter of whatever video game logic and feel that people are used to, even if it doesn't hold true in real life. Main characters being attractive is just par for the course unless their ugliness is part of the character portrayal - and worth noting there is a difference between ugliness and unappealing. Some of the best character have amazing design to look good whilst ugly. Ciri just looks bland an unappealing, not ugly in an interesting way.
Beauty is definitely part of it, because the choice to make her less beautiful is deliberate, and we all know it. We also know what kind of people would choose to deliberately make characters less attractive, and what opinions people like that hold in general
@moe5020 Thicker facial bone structure, generally rounder head. Maybe it's in line with your personal preference, but it's a decrease in feminine features and generally away from attractive in comparison. Disheveled or purdied up isn't a factor. The scar also isn't sufficient to change her facial features enough to actually make her less attractive
@JJ-oy1tx It isn't, in the same way our mechanisms for determining a male from a female isn't. Some men prefer fat women, but that doesn't mean that being fat isn't inherently unattractive, those men just like something inherently unattractive. If you make a woman less feminine, then as a rule, you are making her less attractive, since feminity is the core of what makes women attractive to men. Like, maybe they change her hair to a pixie cut, and maybe you like that more than long hair, but it is also less attractive and if you make that change, you're either intentionally trying to make her less attractive, or you're entirely divorced from reality in thinking that it is entirely subjective and thus it doesn't matter as long as you personally find her attractive.
Ciri would never send this girl back to the village alone as she would have known how it would turn out. It was obvious. Citi knows exactly how superstitious and cruel villagers are.
@ to see that they would kill the sacrificial girl you don’t need to be Gerald. One of the guys plainly stating they didn’t want to hire Witcher and WANT to make a sacrifice. Also, have you read the books? I read them about 20 years ago first time. Ciri went through so much and saw the worst.
Mate, that is not the main problem. The angle shots really push it on her face in an awkward way, and that it shows her with witcher eyes that cannot simply be and she is so angry, like properly angry. The only way they can justify she is a witcher is braking lore and from there it will be just contradiction over contradictions
no lore breaking at all actually, had you read the books you would know there was brief mention of a handful of female witchers that were successfully created by the cat school with the help of sorceress. it was said to be a myth. and that’s why the cat school medallion is shown on Ciri. clearly she sought the cat school after the third game and undergone the trial of grasses through that avenue.
The fact that they needed to explain the trailer speaks for itself... I love Ciri as a character, I love how she looked in 3, have no problem with her being the main character, but they HAVE made her ugly. Not outward ugly, but her nose is slightly too big, her mouth slightly too wide, her cheeks slightly too sunken, everything is just slightly off, which makes her look weird. On top of that, she looks like a Karen. Ciri from the 3rd game was a bright, cheerful person, someone you would love to hang out with. The new Ciri looks ugly on the outside AND the inside. She looks like someone you would hate to be around. And honestly, someone you would hate to play as. She has lost the inner light, and looks like a bitter, unattractive woman, not just on the outside.
As for the trailer, we knew why Geralt was there and why he did what he did. It's not the same for Ciri. Did someone pay her to kill the monster? Did she came on her own to save the girl? To me, she just looks like she's there because she's bitter because people think monsters are gods. I have no idea what her motivation is here.
bro it's a 5 min trailer, relax a bit - the W3 trailer Geralt looks different than the games Geralt and we also don't know how many years is this set in the future
Witcher 1 was crazy good at the time. Witcher 2 was a feast for the eyes that showed us what might be possible in the future. And Witcher 3 is a Magnum Opus. And all 3 are dear to my heart.....
Geralt & Yennefer LITERALLY DIE. Go read the books. Because thats what they're building up to. If you can't accept that the Witcher universe is bigger than just Geralt, you're going to be highly disappointed.
@@connerjessop8422 Joel was collecting death flags the entire first game, I'm not at all surprised that they killed him off, it just felt like the natural progression of the story. Not big on the rest of the story though...
No, I expected to play as Ciri with the "god like" powers while still having them restrained or limited with logical narrative related reasons - or simply faces extremely powerful entities from that world - without taking away everything that made the character who she was. She's an agile, swift and lean warrior with teleportation powers, that's who she's supposed to be.
@ but like, she literally lost her powers last game. So why would she have them now narratively without figuring out how to get them back right now? But also…it’s a trailer. Name me one trailer for the Witcher that tells you exactly how the story plays out?
@@butterflymage5623 I finished the game 5 years ago and didn't remember if it was explicitly stated that she lost powers. I'll take your word for it now and google it later.
8:20 They did a trial in the witcher 3 to turn Uma back into an elf. The way to do the trial wasn't really lost, they just stopped doing it. Vesemir was alive while they were doing them and helped perform many. Every school also had their own method for creating witchers, the entire process was invented by mortals, so even if it was "loss", there are more than enough people connected to the witchers at the top of their field to invent a new method. Normally the trial doesn't work on adults or women (it just kills them), but again, we have Yen and various master alchemists connected to the wolf school who could invent a new method of creating witchers that is more universal and potentially much safer. They are also doing something with the conjunction of the spheres (an event that let's more monsters into the world), so there will be a need for more witchers to deal with it, potentially creating a sense of urgency to come up with a better way of creating witchers.
IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT CIRI WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT PROTAGONIST THEN YOU ARE BLIND. IT WAS CLEAR AS DAY AND MAKES COMPLETE SENSE IF YOU PAID ATTENTION TO THE STORY. ALSO SHE HAS ELDER BLOOD WHICH MAKES HER STRONGER THAN OTHER WOMEN SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY SHE SURVIVED THE TRIALS.
It's The Witcher, It's from CDPR. Its not a new game that needs to appeal to its base player. The CDPR's witcher is following its own narrative, and I am expecting Ciri to take over one way or another anyway (looking at Witcher 3). So, I want to see how they will flesh her out...and make her the protagonist we will love!
I really can't take people seriously whenever they say woke anymore. First it was Ghost of Yotei now Witcher 4. Call out bs when you see it not when you think you see it.
@@BulletSponge71436 Why do you think that? Becasue I don't immediately disregard a game because it's a female lead? Or because I would like to see something of the game first before criticising?
Yeah, people are really weird these days. They're going to be so disappointed because I bet you W4 sells at least 10 million copies within the first 6 months 😂
We've known that Ciri was going to be the protagonist for about a decade. I would prefer Geralt but let's give the new formula a chance before panning it.
People are nitpicking it feels like. Ciri is older now, hence why she looks different. It can now be considered that it is known what the 'canon' ending of Witcher 3 was. CD Project delivered an amazing story in Cyberpunk 2077 after Witcher 3, so I have little doubt this story will also be good and leagues better than Dragon Age Veilguard.
Fine with Ciri being the protag. Not fine with the amount of gymnastics They're going to have to do to make Ciri doing and surviving the trial of the grasses make sense.
What i love about the witcher trailers is the scenes played out can be events that take place in the game as well as the side quest. however, however, however, the trailers show one side of multiple endings and outcomes. But in game where we will eventualy play out set events, depending on pre-requisit choices, it could be completely different but neither good nor bad necessarily. To me, it's what made playing the Witcher 3 immersing, the fact that the game trailers are events played out in the actual games but is down to the players' choice for outcome shows continuity.
It wasn't one ending it was all the books and the fan fic games where Geralt trained her because that's all he could do tho. But ya it was the good ending when she lived and he made a silver sword for her cause he did all he could do to train her and she chose be the monster hunter, not so much a witcher though. Plus in blood and wine she was telling him about some of her adventures monster hunting and the village drama
People are allowed to voice their real concerns about a video game they are thinking about buying. I'm also tired of calling people grifters when people point out something they don't like. Its ok, we are all on the same team here.
Except the people saying they don't like it didn't have a problem 10 years ago when it was set up. Almost as if all the people saying this never even played the games before and are just jumping on the latest "anti woke" BS cause if some random guy on Twitter said it, it must be true.
@kityhawk2000 So on this specific topic, I completely agree that this was a natural progression and setup. That much is obvious. But that doesn't nullify people's concerns in general about other games. I dont like comments like this that try to invalidate everything anyone else has said about another game. When you say "anti-woke" it's hard for me to take you seriously. I didn't call anything woke. And many people that critique these games don't use that word even if it might perfectly describe it. What I find hilarious is that if you use things like dei in games and they actually effect the game with lackluster dialogue what exactly do you call it? Because, like any other topic in the culture, if it is called out people are labeled anti this, or racist, bigoted etc. Anti woke is another damn label.
I call them grifters because they are inconsistent and often try to cover the real reason for their dislike. For example, I've seen a fair number of chuds coming out with all sorts of nonsense reasons why this game will suck, ranging from it being lore-breaking, which it's not, to Ciri not being hot enough, and more. End of the day tho, when you push them, just want want more Gerald and don't wanna play as a girl. Just own it. I might laugh at you for it, but who should anyone care if I mock them for their take. At least it's being honest.
Siri isn't JUST a girl, she's elder blood - direct descendent of Elven sorceress Lara Dorren. She has vastly enhanced abilities - both magical and physical. This is perhaps why she made the cut to be a Witcher.
it’s never stated in the books or games that women can’t be Witchers. And though it’s never said that they can be, it is implied in both that it is possible. In the book Blood of Elves when Triss sees Ciri she refers to her initially as a Witcher girl and then takes note that Ciri had not yet undergone the trial of grasses. If it wasn’t even possible then why would she note that. In other books in relation to the trial it is stated that “children” had taken the trials, why not just say boys if they’re all boys. Additionally in TW3 main quest-line you have to put a cursed person referred to as Uma through the trial of grasses. While they do this they think it’s possible that Uma is Ciri and they speculate what Ciri would be like after she survives the trial of grasses. Eskel says something like Ciri could come out messed up, maybe unable to feel any emotions. We never see or hear of any female Witchers in the games or books so it was almost a collective thought that it was not possible. The games have already went away from the book canon allowing Yennefer and Geralt to continue their story as well as making numerous other changes and this doesn’t even feel like a change if you’ve read the books or know the lore.
@ your myopic pontification evinces your own sophistry. I presented actual evidence for a stance someone could take and you dogmatically assert that logic and evidence are mental gymnastics. How about you abandon that childish mindset and present actual proof that anything I stated is wrong with logic and evidence instead of your feckless fallacies. Unless you’re just trying to hijack this for your parochial political agenda.
Nice mental gymnastics but even were we to assume you are right she was already an adult by Witcher 3 and trial of grasses is stated to only work on young children so either way they are ignoring the lore to make girlboss Witch a thing
In Blood and Wine he retires. Literally. In the books Geralt plans on retiring, but then gets into a lynching mob murdering him. The games take something Ciris says literally (yen and geralt living in peace in avalon), but this isnt ment literally by Ciri. So technically in canon geralt is dead.
My gripe was that the real dum dum was Ciri in sending her back lol. Like what did Ciri expect? The villagers will welcome her back in before they knew the monster was killed?
Ciri can't use regular magic. At least not the books Ciri She literally ASKED the source, the gods, the whatever you want to believe in, to be relinquished from the ability to use magic after her vision in the desert (I don't recon the full details, don't hang me for it, I beg of thee folks. Need to take a hold of my collection of the series once again) The only type of magic she wasn't capable of getting rid of was the one that made her The Lady of Worlds, originating from the Elder Blood This just doesn't make sense. I don't mind lore retcon-ning *at all times*, but this feels a bit icky, lazy, if not to call it fan-fiction Besides, I'd argue it makes her look weaker, if anything. In the third iteration she could dynamically use her, for the lack of more sophisticated word in mind, "teleportation" skills in combat, which was holy-shimoly cool as hecking heck imo This feels like an alt history of some kind, that being said.. Reds have deviated a lot from the source material over the years, and they still managed to pull a Peter Jackson-like move with them (who knows, they know) imo, and hence we probably ought to only expect further deviations, especially considering the fact that the original games' series folk are pretty much gone from the studio too We'll just have to see what the future holds for The Lady of the Worlds
This seems like a retcon that could be believably explained. Like perhaps they found a way for her to undergo the trials but the trials have a side effect of losing her elder blood. Wasn’t Reg the Vampire essentially killed by Vilge what’s his name? They made a believable retcon and it worked wonderful for the game. Ciri being able to take potions makes sense from a game mechanics perspective. As long as it’s explained in a believable way how she managed to undergone mutations then i think we could have a banger of a game coming. I hate DEI for multiple reasons but especially because of the loss of immersion it causes in stories. Having Ciri be the next protagonist makes a lot of sense though. I’m personally super excited for this game. CD projeckt red has always done us right. I have faith they will remain true to the spirit of the previous games.
@samofresh1 I've simply had way too many IPs I love go under the knife of some wannabe writers who went out of their way to retcon the source materials to oblivion. Besides, like I said, they are basically going to weaken her, in my eyes at least, potentially just so they can have their fem-witcher Ciri, which at its core isin't necessarily bad, but brain tends to be way too good at pattern recognition after several years of.. things. They might do it fairly well, but the potential reasoning doesn't sit right with me. AND, once again, doesn't really make sense to me from a storytelling pov, considering why would she even attempt something so risky in the first place and why would she ever get rid of her inherent power for that. But good luck and have fun to all who will with the title, I guess
They are just parroting what their culture war-talking heads told them. It's gotten to the point where a pretty massive section of geek culture on TH-cam is nothing but weirdos trying to stir up culture war drama for clicks.
Another Person thinking that woke is about Female character as the Main character what next ? people think woke is about the Main Character must looking sexy, and pretty? people this day Had no idea what is woke, and what is not. there is even some people both side join the war withouth knowing what is woke what is not.. all i can Say Witcher 4 it seem had ESG on it.. and i heard there is some people who create witcher 3 is olso gone.. as for GTA 6 its in Gray area... but remember No Mater wich sides you are on... never Pre Order... thats all i can say...
@ if you gain weight ur jawline has more fat on it making the shape look different. plus i wouldn’t look too much into the character design in this trailer when geralt in the last cinematic trailer for witcher 3 looks pretty distinctly different than he does in-game. just a weird thing to nitpick imo for something that’s probably gonna be goty or in contention
Ever since I learned how awful UE5 was for FPS, that just makes the announcement and 'modern CDPR' hurt just a bit more. GG to the FPS unless you turn on fake frames.
The Wolf Witchers, like Geralt, destroyed their trials. She's wearing the Lynx Witcher medallion, so maybe she found their stuff and went through the trials on her own, or over time rediscovered something similar? One ending of Witcher 3 is giving Ciri a silver sword. So that must be the canon ending now.
Nothing that can’t be fixed by either playing the game on its entirety or check this out… watching a video of the Witcher timeline or the sorts… don’t try to act high and mighty my fellow human
@@joebyron2984 They’re not. Asmongold only played half of the damn game, knows little of the lore and yet comments on it as if he finished the game or watched a lore video on it; as you said. That’d be like me commenting on war hammer 40k lore when I haven’t read a single book or codex on it.
@@143shanks Don't do witchers age much slower than regular people? Besides, since when do videogames care much about how the real world works? The main issue here is no other but the looks - because you'll be looking at her for many hours.... You want to be looking at smth appealing.
@@takezomiyamoto1390 u haven't even seen her in game yet People like you are just looking for anything and everything to complain about on the internet Go watch witcher3 reveal trailer and see how janky Geralt looked Also, if u wanna give an excuse of witchers ageing slower, ciri was not a witcher U don't know when she underwent the trials, maybe 15 years ago or maybe a couple weeks ago..
@@143shanks You don't know anything about me, son - stop fantasizing. Plus, you just admitted you don't know whether she's 20 'human years' older either. If Im guilty for being negative even tho I lack data, then you 're guilty too for being positive due to the same reason. People like you... xddd. B please.
Previous trailer wasn't subtle about it, but it went pretty much "there are only two choices: bad choices, shitty choices. I don't want to choose, but if i have to..." and shown us what most of the players would eventually do sooner or later at least few times in their play. This trailer was more or less "You may try... But why bother"
It was good graphic 11 years before because that trailer is completely prerendered. New trailer is said to be prerendered in UE5 for an upcoming Graphics Card and supposedly be real-time/in-game cinematic when it is released.
She is not Ciri from witcher 3 its not that she is older here in 4th game its her whole face have been reconstructed every bone in her face is changed from the 3rd game so if they going to change that what else are they going to change is my question
I think it and she looks badass. Let's hope it is. Also, I've only ever played the starting sequence of The Witcher (first game). Been plannin gon playing all of them completely for years, but never happened, but this trailer made me as excited as the 'A Night To Remember' trailer from The Witcher 3. I hope they come with more trailers for this game, and that I lives up to hype.
The leads in every role for the development of the game - from music to gameplay to direction and writing are all people that have worked on The Witcher 3 and cyberpunk. It's in good hands.
One of the endings of Witcher 3 was Gerald training Ciri as a Witcher. Ciri may not be "truly" a Witcher in terms of the Ritual of the Grasses, but she has her own unique powers and physiology that would make her a good Witcher and capable of using Witcher potions. Though that same physiology would also likely allow her to survive the Ritual of the Grasses. Point being, the game sets up Ciri being able to become a Witcher, if not in all ways, in the ways that are important.
I love how the gaming community always needs to give mandatory disclaimers around how it's ok to like or not like a game for any reason. Life must be tough when a portion of people constantly need that reminder.
Also, Witchers don't retire, they all die in battle. Did you actually think hardcore fans would think Geralt and Yennifer would simply put their weapons down and let the world just fend for themselves, when they're practically immortal... Oh yeh just sitting in a cabin, while wars are being waged and monsters are ripping people apart. "Geralt: Let Ciri handle this Yen, she's got this" Maybe you weren't paying attention my friend 🤣🤣🤣
It's actually impossible to make new witchers, using the original method, 'cause it's lost forever. If they decided to somehow make Ciri a witcher by inventing new method, it is not a witcher anymore, it is just a new type of mutant.
I am not hyped since many members of witcher 3 devs team and even director left the studio
Remember no preorder
At the same time Phantom Liberty was absolutely phenomenal. One way or another wait for gameplay, worst case scenario wait few days after the game comes out.
There is no reason to have an opinion at this point. There is many ways they can screw it up and many ways they can make it work, only time will tell.
@@Cyrsztof No reason? The disastrous launch they just had with CP2077 and then making another complete shift for their other IP, isn't enough to be skeptical? I very much have an opinion and it's not a good one. When developers show me who they are, I tend to believe them.
no preorders!
@@Cyrsztof I didn't think it was that good, overhyped.
Rememeber the recent CDRP DEI hiring practices scandal? Because i sure do.. They chose idiocracy and incompetence so my hopes are not high
I hate "look at these graphics" bro its a pre rendered cinematic. Not game play, Its practically a movie. In game engine cinematic are impressive
"In-game engine footage" is an omen for the "gameplay is second" mentality of modern devs
The shadow of the colossus one is like that (with in game engine)
So her looking like a botox lady in her 30s is just a coincidence i'm sure
98% of the comments on the vid are bots so you only fell for the bait bro
@@muneshxge Its a literal description. Its footage... in the game engine. How dare they?!
Witcher 3, The Lady of Space and Time, Ciri is literally teleporting through dimensions. She has crazy elder blood powers. This whole trailer I'm like, surely she is going to teleport. Instead she is just a witcher? I mean, they can try to ration it to me I guess, but this seems like a step down for her honestly. They set her up to be pretty powerful. I really liked Ciri at the end of Witcher 3, I don't need her to be Geralt reincarnated.
Bro change that cursed nickname.
Yeah that’s my biggest complaint
pretty sure she still have that power, just like asmon said, cant really base it off a trailer, we gotta wait until the game came out to see whats the deal with her
ig you never finished witcher 3? she lost her powers lol, imagine if he had that kind of power how cheese the game would be. God ppl.
@@Not_CIA i think they retcon her whole Story
She not only have no powers but her son was suppose to be the heir of the world after "Ragnarok"
So now she can't get pregnant by A) being a Witcher or B) 40 years old 🤣
Ciril looks mature, looks agressive and looks menacing. She conveis perfectly the fact that now she is a Witcher like Geralt was. I don't care if she's pretty or ugly, I care of what the design tells me. And now she looks like she has killed monsters for years, like it should.
Tbh, Asmongold has no idea or clue about Witcher 4 since he hasn't played the previous games
Tbh the people making witcher 4 probably never played the previous games either
Witcher literally setup ciri being the next witcher. He literally says “are you ready witcher?”
@@Andy_Sidaris You can't be too sure. The people who made Baldur's gate 3 despite not making 1 and 2 did great.
@@Ashe-T-s4h I said played not made
@@Andy_Sidaris bro writers are same during witcher 1
In the Witcher books by Andrzej Sapkowski, Ciri of Cintra does not officially become a Witcher in the traditional sense. However, she does undergo training and has some exposure to the Witcher ways.
In The Lady of the Lake, Ciri is given the Witcher's mutations, but they do not fully take. While she does receive some training in swordsmanship and other aspects of Witcher life, including combat and monster hunting, her mutations do not provide her with the enhanced abilities that typical Witchers have. Ciri's journey is unique because she has great potential and is tied to the world in a way that most Witchers are not, due to her Elder Blood.
At the end of the books, while Ciri is not a Witcher in the strictest sense, she embodies many of the qualities and has the skills associated with one, but her story is more about her unique destiny rather than following the traditional Witcher path.
she fulfils that destiny at the end of game 3, keep up
The games aren't canon to the books.
Lore doesnt matter, sweet baby inc is involved
@@TheUltraKekster the game's story is not canon to the books but they copy the actual lore and world building from the books almost perfectly.
@@eatMY455 you claim that yet I've seen nothing to indicate that whatsoever. I'm willing to bet you're somebody who's never read the books nor played the games and you're just trying to stir up bulshit LOL
I’m ok with ciri but also let’s see how the story turns out cause she’s not exactly suppose to be a witcher
She does in one of the endings
Considering she's supposed to be a unique individual in time and space and magic exists, I think it should be easy for CDPR to come up with a plausible reason why she's a normal Witcher now and doesn't have the powers she had in the Witcher 3.
@@madaofan7378 nah, working as a monster hunter isn't the same
@@madaofan7378 People mean literally, not just a monster hunter. Lore wise, she can't become a mutant we know as "witchers"
@@madaofan7378 she never went through the trial of grasses in that ending.
I think Ciri looked odd in the trailer the same way Geralt looked odd in the Witcher 3 trailer. I don't even think the ending of the trailer was cringey, she had damn near the same line Geralt had and it was clearly an homage to it. They'll definitely need to have one hell of a narrative around how she was able to become a Witcher, but as of right now this is a game I intend to play on release.
The cat school had sorcerer make a modified witcher formula for them that had a higher success rate and had a handful of females survive it. The process was prohibitively expensive using extremely rare ingredients so it didn't really gain traction in the other schools. It looks like Ciri is wearing a lynx medallion in this cinematic so she probably went through this modified cat school transformation.
Seemed more like a ripoff than a homage.
I feel like a lot of the Asmongold viewers who know all the Witcher lore are going to be a vocal minority lol. The trailer looks fine honestly. I loved the Witcher 3, so I’ll probably wait for reviews to come out before I buy it but I have no reason to think it’s gonna be awful before we’ve really seen anything
@@johndoe7017 Considering the majority if the original Devs are gone I’d say that’s a solid indicator that the game won’t be up to standards that the series has set.
How do you know you'll play it when you've seen nothing about the game?
I don't mind Ciri being the MC, but CDprojekt embracing ESG has me feeling cautious...
Also this probably isn't coming out until 2028 so this trailer should not have come out in my opinion. I hate it when things are revealed too early.
I am disappointed with Bethesda, but revealing Fallout 4 a few months before release in 2015 was fantastic 👍
The problem I have with her being the MC is she has to be hardcore nerfed for it to make any sense. Ciri is basically a demigod, pretty much nothing is actually a threat to her if she decides to use her powers, and the only reason she was holding back before was the Wild Hunt, which have been destroyed so now there's just not really a reason for her to not use her powers whenever and wherever she pleases.
Why would you think it isn't due out until 2028 or that they shouldn't have dropped a trailer now? After getting away with the cyberflunk launch they can do whatever they want... Like releasing trash games then charging more for the fix years later in the form of an "expansion".
"Gamers" love to eat shit, CDPR has learned this and are now just another shit show like so many others.
I share the same concern. I think the game will be a dumpster fire.
She was set to be the protagonist of any future Witcher release back when the 3rd game's final DLC came out. One major ending option on the base game had Ciri continuing to train as a Witcher, Blood & Wine DLC had Geralt retire. Fans ASKED for a Ciri lead sequel. These things shouldn't be ignored because of recent trends in the industry.
2028? This game will release in 2026, according to leaks it was planned for December 2025 initially
The main reason I'm disappointed is because the original devs of witcher 3 said they wanted a new storyline with a new protagonist set near the next conjunction of the spheres. Those devs are no longer with cd project red and the director left too. Now we have witcher 4 with ciri who looks slightly different and has a completely different sounding voice. I don't think we're getting something on the witcher 3 level.
Not to mention she literally had god powers and could TIME TRAVEL her story should be done. I hold W3 as the best game of all time and seeing the heart and any love I had for the company die is hard
@@jmav2229 if your "heart and any love" dies after a single UE5 render you're actually re tarded
@ average concord fan girl
still current devs working on the witcher 4 are pretty much those who worked on cyberpunk and story in that game is really awesome (imo better than in w3) so hopefully they will not dissapoint
The main dev team that worked in TW3 has left. CDPR said they are making TW4 for "modern audiences". I mean, the bad signs are there...
She is literally the most powerful character already due to her Elder blood. Why does she even need to become a Witcher?
She lost her powers my guy.
Because little girls need a heroine figure to follow so they grow up dreaming about protecting other little girls.
@@HPblu3 yeah okay but let me retort: doesnt that sound dumb and generic? they can write whatever story they want and went with the old tripe of "she lost her powers my guy"
Because female Witcher
DEI demands
Ciri looks different, but in some angles you can definitely see the resemblance like in 7:35 and i believe the lighting and the fact that this is a cinematic played a huge part in why she looks different. I'm not bothered by it, but what does worries me is the fact that she's a full blown Witcher now. I'm not sure I like that. But, I do hope CD Projekt Red will give a reasonable explanation as to why she's a Witcher. They changed a lot of shit even from their own previous games, and they always manage to make it make sense, so until I get my hands on the game and actually play the game I won't jump to conclusions. I always wanted a Witcher game with Ciri as the main character.
I’m curious to see what’s happened with her Elder Blood, because that and potentially her death were the main reasons why Ciri never underwent the Trial of the Grasses. I’ve read all of the books, and I’ve always considered Ciri as an honorary Witcher for her skill and magical ability. I don’t think she needs the Witcher mutations because she is far more powerful than any Witcher. I’m still very excited for this game as a huge fan of Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk.
Edit: In the books, Ciri’s physiology is different from being a Source, her Elder Blood, and Witcher herbs that hastened her development and made her very fit. When Geralt found her in Brokilon, Eithne made Ciri drink the Brokilon Water, which is a very powerful toxin/hallucinogenic that indoctrinates young girls into becoming dryads. Geralt said he was immune to the effects because he was a Witcher. Ciri was also immune to it as well. It brings up some interesting speculation about how the Trials would affect her, and I hope CDPR is thinking along these lines.
With these thoughts and speculations, Ciri undertaking Witcher mutations isn’t the most far fetched thing, but I’m still skeptical of how they’ll explain it. I think CDPR’s biggest hurdle is explaining how Geralt, Triss, and Yennefer were okay with Ciri doing this. The mortality rate is exceptionally high, and in Blood of Elves, Geralt and Triss were afraid of Ciri dying like countless others.
That's about where I am. I love the books and W3 and Witcher Ciri gameplay and narratively makes sense so as long as the in world explanation makes sense I'm happy.
This is the reasonable opinion that I share
She loses her elder blood powers at the end of witcher 3 events
@@aldendiaz1165 That's not confirmed but more speculated a possibility as she did confront the white frost and reached end of prophecy and purpose of her blood. I suspect most likely lore they're gonna go with is that confrontation took away her power making her fully human with a little bit of sorc and underwent witcher mutations thanks both to her increased survivability as a sorc but also the additional research and technology discovered in blood and wine to make creating new witchers more possible and safer.
Yeah that is why I found this Trailer a bit weird. She's more interesting without the Witcher Mutations, her inability to use Witcher Potions, but access to a lot of difficult to control power, and her portals and teleportation. Like I have no problem with us playing as Ciri, but I'd rather play some kind of half-sorceress that is focused on melee and using the Witcher tools she can have access too and how different that would feel from Geralt. In the Trailer she kind of just feels like a re-skinned Geralt and all the things that make her interesting don't show up in the Trailer, at least to me.
Maybe it's not actually ciri, but geralt after he took a potion too much.
Trans Geralt
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It's possible Geralt is trans now. Who knows
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA very good
Pink fisstech maybe? 🤣
17:32 Ciri is too powerful to be the mc, they will need to come up with a VERY good justification for that to make sense in the story. Or just pull the “it's just a game” card out of their ass
Not true, they built her up in the previous games to be this powerful and a powerful MC isn't a bad thing. Havent you played Shadow of Mordor/War? It can still be good.
I mean we never knew what happened while she was confronting the White Frost at the end of the game. Maybe she used up all of her power to prevent it? Consider than next time we see her in the ending where she becomes a Witcher, there is no clear sign to indicate that she still has her Elder Blood power.
Why is it soo hard to believe you can balanced a powerful main.
It's like having a lvl 100 character that takes a potion to debuff the character's stats and abilities to level 10.
@@life09m within the world of the Witcher games, you can’t unless you escalate the power levels to something even bigger than multi dimensional threats. By the end of Witcher 3, she was the closest thing to a God considering her powers and the threat she could represent.
Anyone who beat Witcher 3 (particularly the dlc) will know Ciri was going to be the next protag. That choice was made long before woke culture girl boss bs. Ciri isn't supposed to be pretty, neither was Geralt but pretty protags sell games. I'm looking forward to it so far, I am curious how they're going to explain Ciri being a Witcher, probably something to do with her fancy new lynx medallion. My only issue with the trailer is I was getting big uncanny valley vibes from most of the characters, I'm sure it'll better in the actual game but something looked off about all the characters to me.
Exactly, i knew it would be Ciri.
"The 11/10 woman with superior genetics isn't supposed to be pretty guys"
you are a clown tho
Ciri IS supposed to be pretty. As stated in the books.
@@Loradon-Max_CSD Also in books was stated geralt is dead. So stop it. Devs doing whatever they doing.
Things that worries me about Witcher 4 is switching to UE engine instead of using their own engine, every UE game ive tried had awful AF optimization and ridiclious requirements compared to what they offered. Worst of all is that they are working with the Sweetbaby Inc mental asylum.
Excactly what I am thinking. Unless
They are the first studio to not cut endless corners it could
Be well optimized and theoretically better then the Red engine…however the Red engine does lighting so well, it’s almost like they are price cutting and throwing away the golden goose along with the rest of the flock of red engine specialists
UE swap is the thing that makes me most skeptical too. All of the UE5 games look literally the same. So much so I keep finding myself googling "[game name] engine" to see all of them are in UE5. A lot of people say that it is not the engine but the developers that cut corners and go with the default stuff. I hope CDPR manages to personalize UE5 to it's full potential and manage to keep that authentic feel of Witcher games.
With all this in mind, I still believe that monopoly of a single engine (or rather being oppressively popular) can't be good for games in the long run. Since I find myself abstaining from buying new games, especially RPGs with open worlds since they are literally so SAME but DIFFERENT. It gives the feeling of been there done that.
Most of the long development cycles and constant delays with CDPR games were because they used their own engine.
The switch to UE should not be concerning, the other things are.
UE allows multiple artists to work on the same map at the same time which not a lot of game engines offer. The physics of unreal are easy to use out of the box and generally work well (lets not count ashes of creation in this since I believe their switch was rather just importing an already existing project into a new framework and they still have a lot to do to make it up to standards). I know that anti aliasing sucks and all but if there's a way to not use lumen and proprietary lighting effects then it could end up working great. Engines at the end of the day are not all just graphics but also gameplay logic collections primarily.
@@TheDablaster I understand why they decided to swap to it. There is only 4 years of difference between Witcher 2 and Witcher 3. Clearly 4 years of development was enough to create a marvelous game like Witcher 3. It is clear that their reasoning was not to make it faster but "cheaper & easier". Yet as a consumer, I don't see how this is of any relevance. IF the end product is worse quality but is cheaper & easier to develop it is not necessarily for the benefit of the consumer, hence it is objectively irrelevant. I doubt engine was the one and only issue when it comes to abysmal production and release of the CP2077.
They should have made a way way back prequel with Witcher schools and such. Completely new story with new characters.
Yes concluded stories should be left alone.
I feel what you're saying but that would piss off lore nerds to no end with inconsistencies and things that can't happen
That's a great idea. I love the idea of going all the way back to when the Witchers were much more common, the monsters where thick and the world was even darker! We could choose our school, make our own Witcher, go through the trials as like a prologue. See our Wticher brothers in training die off one by one.
Thanks for the fun thought experiment I spent awhile just thinking about that and everything I got from the books and it would be so much fun to see that.
I bet they would like to make that into an mmo for money
Ciri is a time traveler. They could make her time travel into the past and somehow she gets stuck there and that is where this trailer takes place. She can undergo the trial of the grasses because that knowledge would exist back then. And you can have Young Geralt, Yen, Triss, Vesemir, etc. If this is an aged up Ciri, it would be odd that the villagers even recognize her costume as a witcher, because Witchers are basically extinct except for Geralt.
I think a lot of anger has been directed from the Netflix show where season 3 was not the witcher but the Ciri and Yennifer show.
The books are all about Ciri. The show is just a terrible show
@@Andy_Sidaristhey aren’t all about her… she’s just the goal for Geralt. Most of the books are in his head tbh. They should just give you the option to not have to play as a woman is all.
It's the anti woke witch hunt
@@hereforthecommentsection_11 LOL lame excuse to call his gsme woke.
@@UberSmoober who said woke?
I think because in the previous game, she looked like a super model, perfect face, and now more like an 8 or 7.5
Second time I'm hearing this. Ciri did not look like a super model wtf. She was pretty average at best. Witcher 4 ciri looks way better.
Ciri went through witcher training, but never got the FULL Witcher treatment to become one. Her eyes can NEVER be obtained. I'd rather have her be using her elder blood abilities alongside her Witcher training.
The Devs already confirmed between 3 and 4 she has undergone the trial of the grasses.
Yeah I've no idea wtf you're talking about. You recovered the recipe for the trail of the grasses in Kaer Morhen, she could absolutely be subjected to it after the Witcher 3 ending. Maybe you just never met Uma 🤷♂️
@@extermin8or3 but why would she, 70% of people who do it die, its not even meant to be done as an adult and Ciri's elder blood powers are way more significant than any power a witcher can obtain, so I really hope they give a good reason for it, otherwise they are just retconning stuff, because its convenient to them.
There are NO female Witchers
@@Krelion1 play the game and you will probably know why she did it
The whole witcher 4 trailer boilded down to a minor side quest of witcher 3. There's a side quest in witcher 3 where Geralt has to make the decision - you kill the beast but the village will become barren and abandoned or leave the villagers be so they keep sacrificing peaple to the beast.
Yeah that Whispering Hillock mission.
But it was a really nice site quest. Like so many... The immersive site stories made a big part of Witcher 3 success
No, it comes down to the ending of Witcher 3 where Ciri becomes Geralds successor
Right. And that’s why the Witcher was amazing. Bc this trailer had better story than 90% of entire games that come out
To be fair Witcher 3 trailer was also a minor side quest.
idgaf about Ciri being the main character, the main beef i have with CD project red is that they will use UE5 instead of the already tried and developed red engine. That means we're in for another stutterfest that is most likely going to come out unfinished as cyberpunk and stalker 2. Even after "fixing" it most players wont be able to enjoy anything more than a 30fps with DLSS on performance with FG, except if you have the latest Nvidia GPU which they used to render this trailer and are going to expect you buy along side with the game. At least with cyberpunk they were just starting to use all the new "toys" of the engine and after years of ironing out bugs and learning how to work on it, they abandon it for UE5, only to begin all over again.
That’s because all the newer staff they hired only have experience with UE5.
Most UE5 games that are stutterfests don't have the funding that CDPR has, this game will come out optimized relative to previous CDPR releases
@GurbyTheGreat we can only hope that they know what they're doing here or we'll have another ue5 letdown, on the side of performance
UE5 has big potential, but i feel the same way. Most games coming out using it, are really not stable or demanding af
Let's be honest here. The Red Engine has MANY bugs with most games they release using it. Sure, they fix the game along the way, but let's not act like it works perfectly fine. There are problems. Not that UE5 is any better, either.
This is literally the dumbest thing ever. People have completely lost the plot in this community and the fact that Asmon is treating this as some kind of serious matter worth discussing is insane to me. I'm sorry but it's becoming clear that this anti-woke movement has gone too far and you guys are losing grip. I can't bring myself to defend y'all anymore after this.
I think experiencing this pattern of girlbossification of most male media like indie Ann jones really put a lot of male audience on the defensive. I want to wait and see
8:15 „As someone who has not really played Witcher 3, I don‘t understand it‘s direct sequel“ - yeah that checks out😂
Haven't played the games, didn't read the books - "I feel like it doesn't make sense"/
Your argument is valid, but on the flip side there are those who have read books and played the games and then what? We just ignore the lore and consume product? I get some people want to be represented but don’t ignore the lore and stories just for brownie points…
@@joebyron2984 i doubt most of the complainers played the previous games or read the books.
for example: geralt died in the books and came back to life with zero explanation in the first game
@@rickmel-q7m that’s when he get lunched and Yen saves him and afterwards he loses his memories right?
Geralt literally gave her a silver sword at the end of witcher 3, canon ending. He had one made for her. He basically made her his successor. Game story departed from the books ten years ago. Ciri wanted to ba a witcher more than anything else. Making her one is 100% the right thing to do.
The only thing that I’m afraid of is the use of UE5. I can already see the bad optimisation and the heavy reliance on GPU upscaling and frame generation.
That has nothing to do with unreal engine. That has to do with lazy or low talent artist and modelers.
Poe2 is a great example of how lazy development got. If you turn off anti aliasing, you end up with a very grainy look basically vertices stacked on top of each other. Usually caused by using mit map type style procedural generation without any clean up.
The reason lazy devs or low talent devs are doing this is probably not because of their talent but the time constraints their given to make stuff leading to the requirement of needing to use those technologies to do the automatic "smoothing" that the developer use to do.
In addition a artist may make a high quality LOD, but then told to rework it with these details or take away other details or its not rainbowy enough, once you spend a month reworking one model. You may stop "cleaning" it up. So the technologies become nessecary on the user end otherwise you end up with the real product which is usually a rushed cash grab anyways.
Black myth wukong was made in unreal 5 and it's mind-blowing in graphics.
Problem is lazy dei artists who are more interested in sending messages than to make great game.
@@JayGalatica Sorry PoE2 touched you bro, but it's a huge hit
@@JayGalatica There are things like CLOUD tech coming out in the latest update for UE5 which REQUIRE TAA to not appear dithered..
It truly is part of UE5, and laziness/inexperience of devs.
This is why there is a massive petition to make a fork of UE5 focused on "game development only", instead of the mostly cinema and animation focused development it's currently under.
There are multiple things in UE5 which require TAA to smooth out dithering, at this very moment.
*Hopefully, this can all be changed lest we face a future of unyielding Vaseline screen.* (since everything's going to UE)
All I can think about is the uevr mod lol, this could be insane in vr if it’s done well.
As a a guy that does lots of video projects for work one thing to consider is lens compression on the look of a face. The close ups her face looks weird but it’s a wide angle lens with an extreme close up to create a sense of fear and paranoia. If you look at the shots of her from a distance she looks much better.
You know, for some reason I never thought to apply my photography knowledge and how lenses work to games before. Even though I know they film these and then animate them.
@ oh for sure! I’ve messed around in Unreal quite a bit as a hobbyist and focal length is definitely something that’s being used here.
She looks older than she did in 3. You know, because she's older than in 3. I hate uglifying of women in video games as much as the next guy, but this isn't a Spiderman 2 MJ or Horizon Forbidden West Aloy. She's not ugly. I wouldn't even say she's less attractive than before. She's just older.
She was trained as a mage and a witcher in the books. She carries on after Geralt is run through with a pitchfork at the end of Lady of the Lake (some might argue Geralt died and was forced back to life by CDPR to even make the first game) and Ciri was the natural legacy in the last scene of the book. It is the proper progression the Ciri carries on after Geralt and as a very, very involved witcher fan, my only major catch involves her use of a potion. Humans typically have to micro-dose witcher potions due to their metabolism, so that was an odd one.
Yea but she is not a human, she went through the Trail of the grasses DRURING the time skip between witcher 3 and 4, and just to add to the fire, she did the transformation while she is 21 years old. Its just not fun how they are gonna ruin a perfectly good character.
@@Mr.Rhox69 exactly. I agree with both and im not into this progression path
Maybe she diluted it. Or maybe she completed the TotG.
@@debbiegilmour6171 Imagine the story arc where Ciri goes through the trials. The struggle, the risk, the tension, and then finally when its complete, she dawns the witcher sthick. Man... so much wasted potential to do it in a off screen time skip. Reading through comments i can see passionate people that have better ideas of how to progress her story and develeop her in to a great character for the series. God, i just hope i am wrong and it will be great, but it seems the core team of witcher 3 is gonne and the company is losing its way, and now the new guard does not want to honor the legacy of the witcher, rather they will make their own and shape it how they see fit.
@@Mr.Rhox69 Somebody mentioned on reddit that they said in interview that she'll not start as witcher but will go through trial in game. If that is true my bet is on prologue.
I think everybody forgot how people was complaining about Witcher 3 when it was released. Like the combat system for example and that the graphics was nerfed. Now everybody is saying it's a masterpiece.
I've never seen such comments in my entire life about Witcher 3.
You must be searching for those people pretty hard.
@@sinfinity383 It was literally everywhere when the game was released. Didn't need to search for it at all.
The graphical downgrade was complained, but I never saw anything about combat. Most people disliked 2's combat, and 99% of people haven't even played 1. And out of the 1% most didn't like the combat in 1 either (me being the weird one who thought it was okay, definitely better than 2's). So that statement just sounds weird.
@@EnraiChannelOMG, yes!
The combat in W2 was such ASS!
The horrendous combat solidified it as the worst of the three for me.
Witcher 3's combat was always one of its weak points, so frankly that criticism held up. People NEVER criticized Geralt's design or the story... you know the things that are integral to an RPG.
22:49
Get ready to hear this every time you do a heavy attack.
😮💨uuughhhghgh.. another game..
jesus christ... you are right.
Noice..
coming from a guy thats never made a woman scream in his life
@@daveclarke6511 projection my guy. Are insults your argument?
Imagine being pissed you´re playing as a woman. I don´t care, man. I could play a houseplant if the character is written good enough to keep me invested. Stop being incels and just enjoy a good story.
Also, in the trailer you see, she´s not wearing the Wolf amulett but the cat, from the cat school of witchers. to answer you question at 21:20
To be fair to the books: Ciri referred to herself as a witcher on multiple occasions. Metaphorically speaking, she slew monsters in the last 2 books, targeting immoral individuals who committed horrible crimes. So I argue following on her footsteps is reasonable. What concerns me is the suggestion that she might have undergone the trials. This seems unlikely on several reasons: 1) the procedure is not common knowledge and thus difficult to replicate. 2) the mutations have a very low survival rate. 3) the trials are usually performed on children (of prophecy) to increase success rate. 4) none of the witchers Ciri knew would have agreed to subject her to such procedure. 5) there‘s no reason for her to do so, she carries Elder blood, making her the most powerful being in the Witcher-verse. She can swap between space and time, perform powerful magic exceeding every Mage of the lodge. Even if she loses her connection, she will find it eventually again (as it occurred before when Selborne telepathically touched her). So there is absolutely no need for her to risk her life by undergoing the trials, when she could kill monsters way more efficiently with her deeply embedded powers. The only plausible explanation I can imagine is that Ciri might have undergone minor enhancements by consuming herbs, aligning with the druid warrior caste from which the witchers are thought to have originated from. Alternatively, she simply wanted to sterilize herself to deter any interests in her placenta and genetic legacy.
Maybe it will be something like "She doesnt use her powers anymore (or barely) as to not attract otherworldly beeings invading this world again" like what happened with the Wild Hunt. Or the Elder Bloods powers just vanished/fizzled out slowly after closing the gate to the Aen Elle world of the White Hunt.
ooor maybe...she just went to the cyberpunk 2077 verse and got those cat eyes because they look cool 😎
None of this makes sense, she shouldn't be able to go through the trial of the Grasses and the devs confirmed she did mutate herself and by doing that they broke her entire character's story and power set. She can't use her Elder Blood because for whatever reason she doesn't have it anymore in this trailer! That's not who Ciri is! The devs broke the very foundations of the lore and of Ciri's entire story! They changed her character from the books and from the previous games! That's what people are upset about.
@ interesting thought! But why would the trials inhibit her Elder blood powers, was this somewhere confirmed too? At some point in the trailer you can clearly see how Ciri was drawing energy from a source. This ability was just one of many magical expressions inherited by her genes (among others like psionic and foresight). So in that sense I don‘t really think that the devs are going to nerf her permanently, overall she never clearly controlled her powers
BaF-aficionado, I love the depth of your comment-it’s refreshing to see someone engaging with the lore thoughtfully rather than just jumping to conclusions. You’re absolutely right that Ciri often referred to herself as a Witcher, and not just in name-her actions in the later books, targeting criminals and “human monsters,” embody what being a Witcher is all about. Following in those footsteps feels like a natural evolution for her character.
That said, I’d argue there’s room for speculation about her undergoing some form of mutation or enhancement. You raise excellent points about the Trials: the secrecy, the survival rate, the age factor, and the likelihood that Geralt or Vesemir would never agree to it. But if CDPR wanted to explore a version of the process tailored to Ciri’s physiology-perhaps leveraging her Elder Blood as a safeguard-it’s not entirely implausible. Especially given the Cat School’s history of experimentation, or the possibility of a new Witcher school with unorthodox methods (like the hinted School of the Lynx).
Your point about her powers exceeding the need for Witcher enhancements is well taken. Ciri’s ability to traverse time and space, perform magic, and access her Elder Blood makes her far more powerful than a typical Witcher. But power isn’t always the same as purpose. Ciri’s connection to the Witcher path has always been about more than raw strength-it’s about her identity, her upbringing, and her bond with those who trained her. Choosing to take on that mantle, even partially, could be a way for her to reconcile her past with her future.
The idea of minor enhancements or sterilization is also fascinating and would align well with her story. It’s a subtle, grounded way to explain her connection to Witcher potions and abilities without risking the larger implications of the full Trials. It would also add a layer of complexity to her character-a deliberate choice to ensure her freedom from being exploited for her genetic legacy.
Ultimately, CDPR seems to be leaning into the ambiguity of Ciri’s evolution, and honestly, that’s what makes it so exciting. The potential for storytelling here is immense, and I hope they explore all the nuances you’ve mentioned while staying true to her character.
Thanks for such a thoughtful take-it’s a pleasure seeing real fans of the lore break it down like this!
Ciri's Elder Blood would reject the alchemical process (the Trial of the Grasses), so it make no sense how she can become a Witcher. Furthermore, she is the most powerful sorcerer so there is no need for her to even attain these powers. I'm not sure how they can spin this story to force this title on her, but it doesn't make sense.
She lost her powers in the "canon" ending in Witcher 3. Then Geralt gave her a silver sword. He basically made her his successor in Witcher 3 already. As for the trials, if anyone should be an exception to the rule, then she should be.
@@cyberius6 She didnt. Sge used them in the SLC after
-She is the most powerful sorcerer
-Elder Blood would reject the alchemical process (the Trial of the Grasses)
These two statements are contradictory. She teleports to different dimensions and you think she figure a way to become a Witcher?
there is an extremely expensive alternative Witcher formula developed by the cat school with a higher success rate and known female survivors that was stolen and disseminated to the other schools. It's cost prohibitive due to the rare materials. Ciri seems to be wearing a lynx medallion so she probably sourced the materials and survived this modified cat school witcher trial.
@@bradybuttataki Yeah I read up a bit about this school. It still doesn't explain why Ciri would go through the process if she is already a powerful sorcerer. They only way I can see this working is if she lost all her powers as another commenter "kindly" pointed out, but she would still have her Elder Blood. Anyway I don't mind playing as Ciri provided she is not overpowered and it fits within the canon of the universe. Most of us are just tired of girl-bosses, ugly characters and reaching for a "wider audience". As the saying goes, "you can't please everyone", and therefore we are wary of new games because we have become good and recognizing the patterns.
8:00 Even though they destroyed it, trial of grasses was performed on Uma by Yen to retransform him into Avallach. Maybe they did it for Ciri, too. Would be interesting to see how they decided to do that knowing how protective Yen and Geralt are for Ciri and Geralt hates the trial.
For what reason? 1 out of 10 can survive. And it's shit in comparison to elder blood
They did half of the trial on Uma and as you said everyone protested it. I can't see any situation where any of them would accept or perform the trial on her and to do so would be pointless as she's already more powerful than any witcher.
@@eNv3n0mXbro the sheeple trynna to defend this sweet baby inc bull ish
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Tbf, Ciri has a cat(Lynx?) madallion. She could very well done the trial without either Yens or Geralts blessing. And CDPR could write about how they managed to do the trial on Ciri as we do know they stopped trying to do it on girls in the books.
Maybe a new method came to light that made the trial possible for girls. Or something akin to that. Maybe Ciris blood was the key or something something.
I just hope they explain it good in witcher 4 and that we do not just start with mutated witcher Ciri and actually get to see the process.
Personally can't wait for Witcher 4.
@@eNv3n0mX3-4 out of 10, and ciri lost her power.
My only problem with the trailer is that she drank the potion after entering the cave
4:14 even by the storyline it makes sense that ciri would be the next canonical hero of the story after Geralt who is supposed to die
IT IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
When Geralt dies the games should too. No one wants to play a Tomb Raider game without Lara Croft and it’s the same concept here.
@@Raizan-IOAll I hear is ppl mad she's "ugly" or she can't be a Witcher which hasn't been confirmed in any way. All I see in the trailer is that she's the main protagonist now and she's hunting monsters like a Witcher. Also I think she looks way hotter in that trailer.
@@beefymario88 said someone who has no idea what witcher 4 will be
geralt isn't suppose to canonically die, in fact he'll be in 4.
The trailer was fine.
The cat eyes on Ciri is an interesting detail. Last I checked Vesemir was the last person alive who knew the secrets of the Trial of Grasses. Since Vesemir dies in W3, it make you wonder how she underwent that ritual?
She looks to be in the mid to late 30's in the trailer. She is in her early 20's in W3, so we are looking at a time leap of about 15 years. Witchers and sorceresses age slowly, so Geralt and Yennefer should both still be alive.
Very alive yes, however and apparently she had undergone the trials now…. Doesn’t that mean she also ages slower? We all have questions and speculation, some are happy for another girlboss doing all a man can, some are a tad upset because some things don’t add up… I say let’s wait.. and if we don’t like it we’ll… we can ignore it and move on! 🤷🏽♂️
The trial of Grasses is the only trial needed for mutagens and potions to function, the remaining trials are more or less combat trials. And Grasses is a scientific method involving alchemy. Scientific methods can be rediscovered, improved, refined and tailored to subject physiology.
@@MarcusVeyGood point, and it may be that it was not exactly the original Trial of the Grasses, but a method with similar results. Unless Vesemir wrote that shit down somewhere and they find it written somewhere, however they choose to explain it.
@@Saladin0127 Yeah there are plenty of sorceresses and druids that could synthesize similar, maybe even safer, methods. Like Uma, Mousesack and Triss.
The trailer was not fine, it had some good aspects to it but also many lore breaking related issues with Ciri.
the problem witcher lV is people who created wild hunt left cdpr and now we have what we have
The people who made cp2077 a masterpiece?
@@madmintentertainment6268 I suggest you find out which people left the company.
@@madmintentertainment6268 cp77 is not a masterpiece
I played the Horizon series twice, but after the strong women pulled apart every last white straight male, it's just not fun anymore...
I am inside a big place where every woman has to be strong in games and it pulls apart tons of new games from me...
Also, ciri looks like Chad.
It makes sense since in lore of the game, Geralt's arc already ended in Witcher 3. But considering CDPR's hiring practices and the launch of Cyberpunk, it's better to just wait for people content creators to play the game and see if you like it.
Personally, I'm also skeptical considering they nerfed Ciri in the trailer, she can't even teleport when she already mastered her powers and even in the early game of Witcher 3 she could do it.
I liked her character in 3 but im not really interested in playing as her, have to see when the game comes out as it could change.
You already played a bit as her in 3..
@jootai yes, i also played as atreus in GOW, in both of these cases i didn't really enjoy it.
@@jootai Which were some of the more universally criticized sections of the game... what's your point?
I think Gerald is in the Game. 😊 They would not name it The Witcher anyway.
Most fans that were following the developments had an inkling that Ciri was gonna be MC this time around. I think the problem here is that it was confirmed through interviews that in the 4th game Ciri is supposed to have gone through the Witcher Trials and does not appear in the trailer to be able to teleport. That's some shaky ground in terms of writing - because Vesemir was the last remaining Witcher who even remotely knew how the Trials were supposed to go meaning Ciri would need to take a trip back in time if they intend to have her go though that. That then would beg the question of WTF happened where Ciri can't teleport now, and why she can use magic, since actual magic has been lost to her since she willingly gave it up in the Korath Desert. Let's not forget that CDPR royally fucked up in how they wrote Yennefer in Witcher 3, so it's not out of their realm to entirely ruin Ciri's character. The core crux of my fear is that Ciri is going to be written in a way that erases what made her stand out and replace her with a female Geralt clone. Not to mention it would be book-lore inaccurate to have a female Witcher - and while CDPR hinted that maybe the Cat school had figured that out, you're talking about Ciri having to find a completely different school bare minimum and considering that most Witcher schools tend to hide their locations... CDPR now has to come up with a full backstory to all that and I'm willing to bet it's gonna be a coin toss on whether or not they don't step on their own toes in the writing.
Ciri hates her elder blood powers. if she can she'd never use them. there will be a reason, CDPR isnt Toriyama.
Someone came up with the trial of grasses. No one remembers how to make the potion now, but is it really so insane to think they could find the recipe somewhere? That they might recreate it even without the recipe by understanding the magics involved and using Ciri's elder blood? Or they may travel to a land more distant than where the story has been so far and find someone who still knows how the formula was made? There are all possible ways that are within the lore to recreate the formula.
Vesimir was the only WITCHER, but Witchers didn't invent the trials. The mages did. The process can be rediscovered, refined even, if there was a desire or need to do so. Its an area that once it worked, there wasn't much need to continue development at the time, and it got ignored, but if a need arose, the research could be restarted.
We don't know a lot from this trailer. Some of her powers look new, the medalion we have no context for. Did she make it herself? is it a keepsake from a friend or mentor? Who knows. Did she learn at a school, or continue learning from Geralt? Did she learn enough on her own as a youngster and the rest is field experience?
There is nothing saying women can't be Witchers, just that no women had either survived or perhaps tried. Ciri was already ingesting the various mushrooms they use and they were changing her, her bloods magic might project her, shes magically strong, other mages might have helped the process, making it much safer than just a bunch of witchers in a dirty dungeon following a written process they don't understand.
There is still every possibility they fuck up the writing as they move into complete new writing territory with no basis in the books, but we'll see.
Im hoping its great, but as usual, no pre-orders.
@@AleksandrStrizhevskiy Yes. This is stated very, very clearly in W1 & W2 that it is effectively impossible without re-doing the entire discovery process (hundreds to thousands of orphans used for experimentation to re-create the results of what was before). The ability to make Witchers is lost, permanently. This is why Leo could never become a Witcher (even if he had survived).
The time of when Witchers were created ,vs the 'now (Witcher 1+)' is very different, mages do not have as much freedom or control, that they can just grab up a few thousand orphans and go to town on them without massive scrutiny.
The only other (semi-realistic) way, would be for Ciri to go back in time, and yank one of the mages that knew how to do it, and have it do the process on her, or bring him back to the 'present' and have him teach someone how to do the mutations. While Yennifer would probably be up for it. Considering all the other Witcher's perspective of this (extreme hatred of the very concept of this idea), Ciri would most definitely 'NOT' do that, so you'd have to retcon the entire personality and dynamics of her father figures (Witchers).
So no, it makes no sense to have Ciri undergo mutations.
@SknCommonLisper You're skipping over the possibility that a "lost tomb" could be found with the formula. For example in the mage's archives. Or another witcher school in a more distant land still retained the formula somewhere.
what´s everyone talking about, Ciri´s hot af
1 - The Witcher mutations cannot be recreated.
2 - Ciri is far more powerful than any Witcher due to her Elder Blood.
3 - Witcher eyes on Ciri are inconsistent with established lore.
4 - Geralt would never let her suffer the Witcher path.
5 - It undermines Ciri’s individuality and feels like a forced, unearned rewrite.
Forcing her into the Witcher mold would erase her individuality and reduce her to a trope - something she’s never been.
Point 4 and 5 are contradictory. Ciri was always going to do her own thing a.k.a. "individuality", even going against what Geralt wanted.
the witcher 3 literally has an ending where Ciri becomes a witcher
@@emillundqvist8126She never underwent the Trial of Grasses so she can't drink potions and she wouldn't have the yellow cat eyes. They are just retconning lore at this point
She wanted to be a witcher...it is what she wanted. Maybe not go through the trials but its not like they cannot come up with some magical work around for her to be able to drink them
@vlad8718 imo "bEcAuSe mAgIc" has never been a good excuse for any lore retconning. And she's already a time-bending, teleporting space wizard so I don't see why they needed to make her a Witcher anyway
If we go by the books and the ending of witcher 3 blood and wine dlc, it makes sense ciri would be next, just an unfortunate timing given the optics since it's all going on with women replacing men in a lot of games and media as well as just a lot of women characters right now so it just seems like "another one of them".
I think the game will do fine most likely and could be positively received, but with a lot of the staff leaving and a culture shift there the last 4 years or so, it could be concerning. I get a gut feeling the game will be underwhelming and would be lucky to sell 1/3rd as much as the Witcher 3. Not that no one wants ciri as a lead, just that less people want ciri as lead vs geralt. I would have LOVED a geralt lead, ciri secondary.
They seem to have removed her Elder Blood powers and just made her a generic Witcher, which really shouldn't work A. she's grown, the Trial doesn't work on adults (the trial also doesn't work well on elves, as per Witcher 3.) 2. Every girl they tried it on, it killed them, only 3 in 10 boys survived.
They've completely ruined what made Ciri special to go "look look! Women can be witcher too!" Its tragic how little they seem to understand what they were meant to write.
@@Sillvester33 We don't know anything about what happend to her Elder Blood powers. And we see her using magic. Witcher that uses magic. Yep, nothing special. Trial doesn't work on regular adults because of body's willingness to adapt and change which is why they only try to do it to prepubescent children. But its is possible to do with and adult, like they mostly did with Uma/Avallac'h.
There were female witchers in the lore. Girls die a lot more than boys(which already die a lot) during the trial because girls are on average significantly weaker; not just for the fact that they are girls. (So most schools stopped even trying to make girls undergo the trial a long time ago). Still doesn't mean its not possible.
It's tragic how little some people seem to understand what is being portrayed in these stories you pretend to be fans of.
It's not "just and unfortunate timing". We know cdpr took esg money, we know they developed a woke culture internally recently and they work with sweet baby inc. Cdpr is lost and Witcher 4 will be the first game to show that.
Have you heard of the tale of Samus Aran the Bounty Hunter? It's a tale that happened in 1986. Or Lara Croft from 1996? Knock it off with this shit about 'wamans replace man'. Have you heard of Alien with Ripley Sci-Fi Heroine the last survivor of the Nostromos from 1979? I could go on.
25:08 She just gave a stern talking to the villagers
I don’t understand how people want a stellar blade looking character in a realistic Medieval based world these people are still doing human sacrifices how often do you think they shower didn’t play the other games but this looks good to me
You obviously didn't play the other games then, as they had attractive main character women that's weren't necessarily stellar blade level but far above what Ciri looked in the trailer. I usually ignore the realism argument as it is often applied in a cherry-picked manner to support whatever one wants. It is a matter of whatever video game logic and feel that people are used to, even if it doesn't hold true in real life. Main characters being attractive is just par for the course unless their ugliness is part of the character portrayal - and worth noting there is a difference between ugliness and unappealing. Some of the best character have amazing design to look good whilst ugly. Ciri just looks bland an unappealing, not ugly in an interesting way.
@@aetherblackbolt1301she just looks like ciri to me. She looks just like she did in the Witcher 3 to me. I think people are over analyzing.
It's not about beauty, it's that she's a different Ciri than we're used to.
Beauty is definitely part of it, because the choice to make her less beautiful is deliberate, and we all know it.
We also know what kind of people would choose to deliberately make characters less attractive, and what opinions people like that hold in general
@@Mallard942 I'm just not seeing it bro she looks if anything hotter now witcher 3 made her more disheveled and she had a way more pronounced scar.
@moe5020 Thicker facial bone structure, generally rounder head.
Maybe it's in line with your personal preference, but it's a decrease in feminine features and generally away from attractive in comparison.
Disheveled or purdied up isn't a factor.
The scar also isn't sufficient to change her facial features enough to actually make her less attractive
@@Mallard942 That’s completely subjective. Tell me you’re gay without telling me you’re gay
@JJ-oy1tx It isn't, in the same way our mechanisms for determining a male from a female isn't.
Some men prefer fat women, but that doesn't mean that being fat isn't inherently unattractive, those men just like something inherently unattractive.
If you make a woman less feminine, then as a rule, you are making her less attractive, since feminity is the core of what makes women attractive to men.
Like, maybe they change her hair to a pixie cut, and maybe you like that more than long hair, but it is also less attractive and if you make that change, you're either intentionally trying to make her less attractive, or you're entirely divorced from reality in thinking that it is entirely subjective and thus it doesn't matter as long as you personally find her attractive.
Ciri would never send this girl back to the village alone as she would have known how it would turn out. It was obvious. Citi knows exactly how superstitious and cruel villagers are.
anyone remember skjall...
shes still very young compared to geralt lol, shes just more mature than her old self still obviously not as wise as a dude several dozen decades old
@ to see that they would kill the sacrificial girl you don’t need to be Gerald. One of the guys plainly stating they didn’t want to hire Witcher and WANT to make a sacrifice.
Also, have you read the books? I read them about 20 years ago first time. Ciri went through so much and saw the worst.
Yeah that did seem odd, she's smarter than that. But I suppose they wanted to show how determined the villagers were for the sacrifice to die.
@@handdurgershe didn't leave him. She got knocked out and had no choice. So do u remember skjall?
Mate, that is not the main problem. The angle shots really push it on her face in an awkward way, and that it shows her with witcher eyes that cannot simply be and she is so angry, like properly angry. The only way they can justify she is a witcher is braking lore and from there it will be just contradiction over contradictions
She looks like she had a hell of a ten years or something. I like her look. Like she seen some shi the past years.
no lore breaking at all actually, had you read the books you would know there was brief mention of a handful of female witchers that were successfully created by the cat school with the help of sorceress. it was said to be a myth. and that’s why the cat school medallion is shown on Ciri. clearly she sought the cat school after the third game and undergone the trial of grasses through that avenue.
I think you need to refamiliarize yourself with the Witcher lore.
@@bopo900 It makes sense. Peoples faces change. The witcher trials also change way you look.
tell me how it breaks lore and i will explain it to you
The fact that they needed to explain the trailer speaks for itself...
I love Ciri as a character, I love how she looked in 3, have no problem with her being the main character, but they HAVE made her ugly. Not outward ugly, but her nose is slightly too big, her mouth slightly too wide, her cheeks slightly too sunken, everything is just slightly off, which makes her look weird. On top of that, she looks like a Karen. Ciri from the 3rd game was a bright, cheerful person, someone you would love to hang out with. The new Ciri looks ugly on the outside AND the inside. She looks like someone you would hate to be around. And honestly, someone you would hate to play as. She has lost the inner light, and looks like a bitter, unattractive woman, not just on the outside.
As for the trailer, we knew why Geralt was there and why he did what he did. It's not the same for Ciri. Did someone pay her to kill the monster? Did she came on her own to save the girl? To me, she just looks like she's there because she's bitter because people think monsters are gods. I have no idea what her motivation is here.
bro it's a 5 min trailer, relax a bit - the W3 trailer Geralt looks different than the games Geralt and we also don't know how many years is this set in the future
I’m gonna miss Geralt, feels like we only got 1 good game with him, as soon as the technology started to get good, they swapped him out🥲
We is French. And that is surrender culture. I enjoyed all 3 Witcher games. “You” only liked 1 of them.
Just like Joel 💀
Witcher 1 was crazy good at the time. Witcher 2 was a feast for the eyes that showed us what might be possible in the future. And Witcher 3 is a Magnum Opus.
And all 3 are dear to my heart.....
Geralt & Yennefer LITERALLY DIE. Go read the books. Because thats what they're building up to. If you can't accept that the Witcher universe is bigger than just Geralt, you're going to be highly disappointed.
@@connerjessop8422 Joel was collecting death flags the entire first game, I'm not at all surprised that they killed him off, it just felt like the natural progression of the story. Not big on the rest of the story though...
I don't think this is about ugly characters. This is about WHY characters are getting the ugly treatment.
Exactly!!!
17:30 I didn't expect Ciri as main character because she has God-like powers.
Had, lost them last game.
No, I expected to play as Ciri with the "god like" powers while still having them restrained or limited with logical narrative related reasons - or simply faces extremely powerful entities from that world - without taking away everything that made the character who she was. She's an agile, swift and lean warrior with teleportation powers, that's who she's supposed to be.
@ but like, she literally lost her powers last game. So why would she have them now narratively without figuring out how to get them back right now?
But also…it’s a trailer. Name me one trailer for the Witcher that tells you exactly how the story plays out?
@@butterflymage5623 I finished the game 5 years ago and didn't remember if it was explicitly stated that she lost powers. I'll take your word for it now and google it later.
To be clear: I'm *not against* Ciri. I didn't expect her. That's all.
8:20 They did a trial in the witcher 3 to turn Uma back into an elf. The way to do the trial wasn't really lost, they just stopped doing it. Vesemir was alive while they were doing them and helped perform many. Every school also had their own method for creating witchers, the entire process was invented by mortals, so even if it was "loss", there are more than enough people connected to the witchers at the top of their field to invent a new method. Normally the trial doesn't work on adults or women (it just kills them), but again, we have Yen and various master alchemists connected to the wolf school who could invent a new method of creating witchers that is more universal and potentially much safer. They are also doing something with the conjunction of the spheres (an event that let's more monsters into the world), so there will be a need for more witchers to deal with it, potentially creating a sense of urgency to come up with a better way of creating witchers.
IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT CIRI WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT PROTAGONIST THEN YOU ARE BLIND.
IT WAS CLEAR AS DAY AND MAKES COMPLETE SENSE IF YOU PAID ATTENTION TO THE STORY.
ALSO SHE HAS ELDER BLOOD WHICH MAKES HER STRONGER THAN OTHER WOMEN SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY SHE SURVIVED THE TRIALS.
Man I wish we had graphics as good as we did 11 years ago. How many years until we get back to that or did we peak?
she must have gone through the trial of grasses after the last games story which is wild
It's The Witcher, It's from CDPR. Its not a new game that needs to appeal to its base player.
The CDPR's witcher is following its own narrative, and I am expecting Ciri to take over one way or another anyway (looking at Witcher 3).
So, I want to see how they will flesh her out...and make her the protagonist we will love!
I really can't take people seriously whenever they say woke anymore. First it was Ghost of Yotei now Witcher 4. Call out bs when you see it not when you think you see it.
People think a female character lead means the game is woke. Shows how some gamers are just whiny incels.
Absolutely
Ruins the reason looking for it began with, with things like concord and saint row being actual woke but no those plastered with it now too
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?
You most probably don't even know about ESG or internal situations in these studios.
@@BulletSponge71436 Why do you think that? Becasue I don't immediately disregard a game because it's a female lead? Or because I would like to see something of the game first before criticising?
Yeah, people are really weird these days. They're going to be so disappointed because I bet you W4 sells at least 10 million copies within the first 6 months 😂
Ciri = Witcher
Yasuke = Samurai
"You're not in the circus, pirouette" 12:30
why would ciri have the witcher eyes??? she is not a mutant and the whole point of her backstory was that she does not undergo the mutation.
We've known that Ciri was going to be the protagonist for about a decade. I would prefer Geralt but let's give the new formula a chance before panning it.
People are nitpicking it feels like. Ciri is older now, hence why she looks different. It can now be considered that it is known what the 'canon' ending of Witcher 3 was. CD Project delivered an amazing story in Cyberpunk 2077 after Witcher 3, so I have little doubt this story will also be good and leagues better than Dragon Age Veilguard.
Fine with Ciri being the protag. Not fine with the amount of gymnastics They're going to have to do to make Ciri doing and surviving the trial of the grasses make sense.
What i love about the witcher trailers is the scenes played out can be events that take place in the game as well as the side quest. however, however, however, the trailers show one side of multiple endings and outcomes. But in game where we will eventualy play out set events, depending on pre-requisit choices, it could be completely different but neither good nor bad necessarily. To me, it's what made playing the Witcher 3 immersing, the fact that the game trailers are events played out in the actual games but is down to the players' choice for outcome shows continuity.
10:29 if anything, her face at this moment int this trailer looks more realistic than before. and It looks good
I was really hoping for a custom player made witcher as the protagonist, but Ciri is a logical step forward in the story so not mad at all about it.
there is one ending where geralt teaches ciri to be witcher. but the ceremony I did not know.
It wasn't one ending it was all the books and the fan fic games where Geralt trained her because that's all he could do tho. But ya it was the good ending when she lived and he made a silver sword for her cause he did all he could do to train her and she chose be the monster hunter, not so much a witcher though. Plus in blood and wine she was telling him about some of her adventures monster hunting and the village drama
This game won't be coming out for 2-3 years. Let's just wait and see what they have planned.
The herd can't do that sadly , the internet told them to be douchebags by default
Bro it’s coming out mid 2025
I think they will go bankrupt before then. Lots of telltale signs
People are allowed to voice their real concerns about a video game they are thinking about buying. I'm also tired of calling people grifters when people point out something they don't like. Its ok, we are all on the same team here.
Except the people saying they don't like it didn't have a problem 10 years ago when it was set up. Almost as if all the people saying this never even played the games before and are just jumping on the latest "anti woke" BS cause if some random guy on Twitter said it, it must be true.
@kityhawk2000 So on this specific topic, I completely agree that this was a natural progression and setup. That much is obvious. But that doesn't nullify people's concerns in general about other games. I dont like comments like this that try to invalidate everything anyone else has said about another game. When you say "anti-woke" it's hard for me to take you seriously. I didn't call anything woke. And many people that critique these games don't use that word even if it might perfectly describe it. What I find hilarious is that if you use things like dei in games and they actually effect the game with lackluster dialogue what exactly do you call it? Because, like any other topic in the culture, if it is called out people are labeled anti this, or racist, bigoted etc. Anti woke is another damn label.
@@kityhawk2000 You probably don't know much about sweet baby inc
I call them grifters because they are inconsistent and often try to cover the real reason for their dislike. For example, I've seen a fair number of chuds coming out with all sorts of nonsense reasons why this game will suck, ranging from it being lore-breaking, which it's not, to Ciri not being hot enough, and more.
End of the day tho, when you push them, just want want more Gerald and don't wanna play as a girl.
Just own it. I might laugh at you for it, but who should anyone care if I mock them for their take. At least it's being honest.
Siri isn't JUST a girl, she's elder blood - direct descendent of Elven sorceress Lara Dorren. She has vastly enhanced abilities - both magical and physical. This is perhaps why she made the cut to be a Witcher.
it’s never stated in the books or games that women can’t be Witchers. And though it’s never said that they can be, it is implied in both that it is possible. In the book Blood of Elves when Triss sees Ciri she refers to her initially as a Witcher girl and then takes note that Ciri had not yet undergone the trial of grasses. If it wasn’t even possible then why would she note that. In other books in relation to the trial it is stated that “children” had taken the trials, why not just say boys if they’re all boys.
Additionally in TW3 main quest-line you have to put a cursed person referred to as Uma through the trial of grasses. While they do this they think it’s possible that Uma is Ciri and they speculate what Ciri would be like after she survives the trial of grasses. Eskel says something like Ciri could come out messed up, maybe unable to feel any emotions.
We never see or hear of any female Witchers in the games or books so it was almost a collective thought that it was not possible. The games have already went away from the book canon allowing Yennefer and Geralt to continue their story as well as making numerous other changes and this doesn’t even feel like a change if you’ve read the books or know the lore.
Your mental gymnastics are amazing
@ your myopic pontification evinces your own sophistry. I presented actual evidence for a stance someone could take and you dogmatically assert that logic and evidence are mental gymnastics. How about you abandon that childish mindset and present actual proof that anything I stated is wrong with logic and evidence instead of your feckless fallacies. Unless you’re just trying to hijack this for your parochial political agenda.
Nice mental gymnastics but even were we to assume you are right she was already an adult by Witcher 3 and trial of grasses is stated to only work on young children so either way they are ignoring the lore to make girlboss Witch a thing
@@SmokerJP Not really, if you actually played witcher 3 you knew there was an ending with ciri becoming a witcher.
@chuck948 Why is it that you didn't cry about it when the game came out 10 years ago?
Ciri’s botox face is actually an allergic reaction to the potion that she wasn’t supposed to use.
The developers confirmed in a interview that after witcher 3 she went trough the trial of grasses and the mutations.
So the dev said it that mean its true ?
@ well they are the ones making the game so.. yes? 😄
@@adamb.m4844 uh…yeah.
And that is utter bullshit.
@@rpgadventurer32 why so?
I WANT GERALT AGAIN - GIVE ME A FUCKING 120H SIDEQUEST WHERE I AM PLAYING GERALT PERIOD.
Witcher casual here, so like where is Geralt?
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he will be in the game, but as a supporting character
Retired with Yennefer/Triss after Witcher 3
He's enjoying retirement
In Blood and Wine he retires. Literally. In the books Geralt plans on retiring, but then gets into a lynching mob murdering him. The games take something Ciris says literally (yen and geralt living in peace in avalon), but this isnt ment literally by Ciri. So technically in canon geralt is dead.
24:51 she used the same line at the end as the last trailer, called them monsters, they’re definitely eluding to her killing them
My gripe was that the real dum dum was Ciri in sending her back lol. Like what did Ciri expect? The villagers will welcome her back in before they knew the monster was killed?
It doesn't matter if they didin't show it.
@@eufrosniad994 this is the high IQ take. Like the whole village was going to be stoked that their human sacrifice didn’t get sacrificed? Lol
Ciri can't use regular magic. At least not the books Ciri
She literally ASKED the source, the gods, the whatever you want to believe in, to be relinquished from the ability to use magic after her vision in the desert (I don't recon the full details, don't hang me for it, I beg of thee folks. Need to take a hold of my collection of the series once again)
The only type of magic she wasn't capable of getting rid of was the one that made her The Lady of Worlds, originating from the Elder Blood
This just doesn't make sense. I don't mind lore retcon-ning *at all times*, but this feels a bit icky, lazy, if not to call it fan-fiction
Besides, I'd argue it makes her look weaker, if anything. In the third iteration she could dynamically use her, for the lack of more sophisticated word in mind, "teleportation" skills in combat, which was holy-shimoly cool as hecking heck imo
This feels like an alt history of some kind, that being said..
Reds have deviated a lot from the source material over the years, and they still managed to pull a Peter Jackson-like move with them (who knows, they know) imo, and hence we probably ought to only expect further deviations, especially considering the fact that the original games' series folk are pretty much gone from the studio too
We'll just have to see what the future holds for The Lady of the Worlds
This seems like a retcon that could be believably explained. Like perhaps they found a way for her to undergo the trials but the trials have a side effect of losing her elder blood.
Wasn’t Reg the Vampire essentially killed by Vilge what’s his name? They made a believable retcon and it worked wonderful for the game. Ciri being able to take potions makes sense from a game mechanics perspective. As long as it’s explained in a believable way how she managed to undergone mutations then i think we could have a banger of a game coming.
I hate DEI for multiple reasons but especially because of the loss of immersion it causes in stories. Having Ciri be the next protagonist makes a lot of sense though.
I’m personally super excited for this game. CD projeckt red has always done us right. I have faith they will remain true to the spirit of the previous games.
@samofresh1 I've simply had way too many IPs I love go under the knife of some wannabe writers who went out of their way to retcon the source materials to oblivion.
Besides, like I said, they are basically going to weaken her, in my eyes at least, potentially just so they can have their fem-witcher Ciri, which at its core isin't necessarily bad, but brain tends to be way too good at pattern recognition after several years of.. things.
They might do it fairly well, but the potential reasoning doesn't sit right with me. AND, once again, doesn't really make sense to me from a storytelling pov, considering why would she even attempt something so risky in the first place and why would she ever get rid of her inherent power for that.
But good luck and have fun to all who will with the title, I guess
Its funny how people consider the witcher 4 woke but not gta 6 witch has a female protagonist aswell
Because for a lot of people it has nothing to do with a female protagonist specifically.
Or Metroid prime with Samus or Lara Croft in Tomb raider
They are just parroting what their culture war-talking heads told them. It's gotten to the point where a pretty massive section of geek culture on TH-cam is nothing but weirdos trying to stir up culture war drama for clicks.
Another Person thinking that woke is about Female character as the Main character
what next ? people think woke is about the Main Character must looking sexy, and pretty?
people this day Had no idea what is woke, and what is not.
there is even some people both side join the war withouth knowing what is woke what is not..
all i can Say Witcher 4 it seem had ESG on it..
and i heard there is some people who create witcher 3 is olso gone..
as for GTA 6 its in Gray area... but remember No Mater wich sides you are on... never Pre Order... thats all i can say...
@@Bashbekersjiw there were a lot of people complaining about shadow of the tomb raider
No the problem people are having is with her jawline. They changed her jawline. Still looks good but a dif character.
u think in a large time skip between games there’s no way a character could put on weight?
@bengt-eriknelson4751 jawline has 0 to do with weight. She didn't get fat lol her literal skeletal structure of her face got rearranged
@ if you gain weight ur jawline has more fat on it making the shape look different. plus i wouldn’t look too much into the character design in this trailer when geralt in the last cinematic trailer for witcher 3 looks pretty distinctly different than he does in-game. just a weird thing to nitpick imo for something that’s probably gonna be goty or in contention
womp womp
replaying on PC 1440p at 144hz, so beautiful
W3?
Ever since I learned how awful UE5 was for FPS, that just makes the announcement and 'modern CDPR' hurt just a bit more. GG to the FPS unless you turn on fake frames.
Turn on raytracing if your GPU can handle it. So good.
UE5 can work, it just takes a massive studio to optimize out the flaws with it
No it wasn't the bitrate of the fog was terrible for me
The Wolf Witchers, like Geralt, destroyed their trials. She's wearing the Lynx Witcher medallion, so maybe she found their stuff and went through the trials on her own, or over time rediscovered something similar? One ending of Witcher 3 is giving Ciri a silver sword. So that must be the canon ending now.
Galadriel ? 😂😂😂
Wait for the slowmo ballerina riding horse...
08:05 yeah thats what you get for only playing half the game....
Nothing that can’t be fixed by either playing the game on its entirety or check this out… watching a video of the Witcher timeline or the sorts… don’t try to act high and mighty my fellow human
@@joebyron2984 They’re not. Asmongold only played half of the damn game, knows little of the lore and yet comments on it as if he finished the game or watched a lore video on it; as you said. That’d be like me commenting on war hammer 40k lore when I haven’t read a single book or codex on it.
@ fair argument, proceed
Ciri looks so different from how I remembered her
Do u look the same as u did 20 years ago?
@@143shanksnot that I am with the one above you, but to answer your question, depends on the person.
@@143shanks Don't do witchers age much slower than regular people?
Besides, since when do videogames care much about how the real world works?
The main issue here is no other but the looks - because you'll be looking at her for many hours.... You want to be looking at smth appealing.
@@takezomiyamoto1390 u haven't even seen her in game yet
People like you are just looking for anything and everything to complain about on the internet
Go watch witcher3 reveal trailer and see how janky Geralt looked
Also, if u wanna give an excuse of witchers ageing slower, ciri was not a witcher
U don't know when she underwent the trials, maybe 15 years ago or maybe a couple weeks ago..
@@143shanks You don't know anything about me, son - stop fantasizing.
Plus, you just admitted you don't know whether she's 20 'human years' older either.
If Im guilty for being negative even tho I lack data, then you 're guilty too for being positive due to the same reason. People like you... xddd. B please.
Previous trailer wasn't subtle about it, but it went pretty much "there are only two choices: bad choices, shitty choices. I don't want to choose, but if i have to..." and shown us what most of the players would eventually do sooner or later at least few times in their play.
This trailer was more or less "You may try... But why bother"
Still not playing a Boss Babe game. done..
same it looks cool and tbh doesn't look woke either but I just don't wanna play as a girl
@ good to hear people are the same, thought i was gonna get butchered for having an opinion.
It was good graphic 11 years before because that trailer is completely prerendered. New trailer is said to be prerendered in UE5 for an upcoming Graphics Card and supposedly be real-time/in-game cinematic when it is released.
She is not Ciri from witcher 3 its not that she is older here in 4th game its her whole face have been reconstructed every bone in her face is changed from the 3rd game so if they going to change that what else are they going to change is my question
They literally set up Ciri as the main character in 3 a decade ago. Geralt has had an entire trilogy. Time to shake it up
"To someone who isn't into the lore and only knows a little bit...it's confusing to me" yeah, no shit man
I think it and she looks badass. Let's hope it is. Also, I've only ever played the starting sequence of The Witcher (first game). Been plannin gon playing all of them completely for years, but never happened, but this trailer made me as excited as the 'A Night To Remember' trailer from The Witcher 3.
I hope they come with more trailers for this game, and that I lives up to hype.
Crazy how we get in this situation where people need to argue about a character looking like a regular human
The leads in every role for the development of the game - from music to gameplay to direction and writing are all people that have worked on The Witcher 3 and cyberpunk. It's in good hands.
One of the endings of Witcher 3 was Gerald training Ciri as a Witcher. Ciri may not be "truly" a Witcher in terms of the Ritual of the Grasses, but she has her own unique powers and physiology that would make her a good Witcher and capable of using Witcher potions. Though that same physiology would also likely allow her to survive the Ritual of the Grasses.
Point being, the game sets up Ciri being able to become a Witcher, if not in all ways, in the ways that are important.
I love how the gaming community always needs to give mandatory disclaimers around how it's ok to like or not like a game for any reason. Life must be tough when a portion of people constantly need that reminder.
Also, Witchers don't retire, they all die in battle. Did you actually think hardcore fans would think Geralt and Yennifer would simply put their weapons down and let the world just fend for themselves, when they're practically immortal... Oh yeh just sitting in a cabin, while wars are being waged and monsters are ripping people apart. "Geralt: Let Ciri handle this Yen, she's got this" Maybe you weren't paying attention my friend 🤣🤣🤣
Difference is that Geralt actually looks badass in the trailer tho
It's actually impossible to make new witchers, using the original method, 'cause it's lost forever. If they decided to somehow make Ciri a witcher by inventing new method, it is not a witcher anymore, it is just a new type of mutant.