KnifeCenter FAQ #42: Best In Class American Knives Under $100? + Seth Returns! Elementum vs Pintail
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- Exploring the answer to the Ultimate Questions of Knives, the Universe, and Everything. We’ve got other questions as well, so don’t panic. Seth addresses the tip-down carry controversy, the Elementum VS the Pintail, and the biggest kukri we’ve got.
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0:00 Intro
0:42 A New/Old Altoids Tin Survival Knife
3:40 Mirror Edge VS Toothy Edge
5:44 Best In Class EDCs Under $100
10:17 CIVIVI Elementum VS Pintail
12:56 Why Are Some Knives Always Out Of Stock?
15:36 A Big Kukri for Big Jobs
20:06 Seth Says: Tip-Down Pocket Clips?
25:47 Compression Lock VS Crossbar Lock
26:48 A Larger Benchmade Bugout
27:35 Filipino-Style Blades
28:12 A Crisp Spine Losing its Edge?
29:05 How Many Knives Does DCA Own?
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I have like two knives that I use a lot, one that I use sometimes, and 30 for “just in case”
I fully understand what you mean... I'm pretty close to those numbers...
The 30 are for supplying your camp of survivors after the zombies/aliens/robots have taken over
I don't think 30 is enough for “just in case”.
Joe A... I agree with that statement... I only have a couple of favorites too, the other 40 plus are for as you have already stated, LOL!
Bill on the Hill...
YEEESSSS! That’s exactly what’s it’s like for me.
We're happy with Seth, he is welcome back any time!
Agreed
Lovely to see Seth becoming a regular feature! Thank you very much for all of your wonderful content chaps!
Yeah, I am really looking forward to hearing what all Seth has to say.
I like the idea of having Seth on regularly. He has a measured tone that I think works great for discussing knife questions.
Mr. Anderson, I just enjoy watching all the videos you are in. You are very educated in cutlery. I've recently graduated to higher end knives, and you've helped me chose some of my recent purchases. Thanks for doing these videos and I appreciate your knowledge sir.
Got to say, I agree with Seth about tip down on large knives. I have relatively small hands and I find any thumb opening knife over 3.25" works better tip down.
Tip-up with a full-length handle forces you to scoot your hand along the length of the knife in order to reach the actuation mechanism. Most actuation mechanisms are at the front of the knife. It's not just spyderholes. Deep-carry clips make the issue worse.
SHOUT OUT TO Seth🇺🇸 SHOUT OUT TO TO AMERICA 🇺🇸 SHOUT OUT TO KINFE CENTER 🇺🇸HAVE A GREAT 4th. 🇺🇸 HAVE FUN AND BE SAFE
My personal reason for always carrying tip down. A large scar on my index finger from a tip up knife that had popped open slightly in my pocket. Reached in for change at the bottom of my pocket, and pulled out a bloody hand.
Love the bareknuckle. I wish the 20CV version with a plain blade was more common. I am not a big coated blade guy but still been tempted by the KC exclusive 20CV ones.
Although 14c28n takes a great edge and Kershaw gets a lot out of it. Their 20CV isn't great but still holds an edge longer than 14c28n.
A "safe-to-close" option is a pushbutton. A Civivi Elementum with pushbutton closure is a good knige. I use a Victorinox Ranger 78 which has a pushbutton on the logo, and I love it.
I enjoyed the section with Seth. Tip down carry was always strange to me. His presentation made a lot of sense.
The White River Backpacker is my favourite fixed blade, I really love it. It's easy to carry, awesome quality, the ergonomics are outstanding and versatile. I've got the paracord wrapped neck knife and the Pro with G10 scales, but still want to add the Caper with micarta scales to my rotation.
I have the caper and absolutely love it. My favorite edc
Thank you so much for answering my questions David! I'm gonna be ordering both of the recommendations asap. I've actually been considering both for a while, and this was the little push I needed. Love the new segment. I really agree with Seth. Tip down has its upsides, and I do have knives that I choose to position the clip tip down. Often times, I just prefer tip up for looks. I don't passionately despise it like so many folks seem to. I never understood that.
Tip down is excellent on a pack strap or a gentleman knife like the CEO in the shirt pocket next to your pen for example. 👍😎
I like "Seth says". Good points.
Man, when ISN'T David C Anderson coming at us from the Knife Center? I chose to believe he returns to the realm of knife ideas (under the desk) whenever he isn't on camera.
Asking someone how many knives they own!! First rule of knife collecting - What happens in the knife store stays in the knife store. BTW - another excellent video.
Been watching since I found the channel a couple months ago and really enjoy. Trying to get more people on which a new challenge but one I'll overcome. Great job gentlemen.
Hello, Seth! Look forward to hearing from you regularly.
Personally, I cannot stand tip up carry. I will never buy another knife that does not allow for tip down carry.
No tip up for me either... and that Spyderco simply has a poor design if tip-up doesn't work :D
The Becker Kukri is amazing! Definitely on my radar. Have a safe fourth. 👍👍
Thanks for answering my question KnifeCenter! Nice to get your perspective on this, had no idea how long it took to get these things into production. I learned it took Spyderco 2 years to produce and ship the Smocks after they were originally announced, and that was during better times. 👍
Another plus for tip down carry is. Front shirt pockets. Or a vest carry. Its just easier to deploy than a tip up. If it were in that position. The same reason the CEO has the clip it does. Its basically meant for front pockets on a dress shirt or jackets. Like a pen/fountain pen.
Thanks for this informative video. Great job by both presenters. I found the tip up discussion very interesting.
Fun, entertaining and educational as always... thanks for sharing!!
As always great information DCA! Dig the involvement of Seth in "Seth Says" as well! Good work & good info from him. Thank you both! Thomas is hilarious in the background 😂
A Douglas Adams reference at the end. I'm impressed.
Love my Bareknuckle. At first I couldn’t get used to the frame lock as I kept gripping it while trying to flip it out. I threw it in my lunchbox out of frustration and ended up using it daily and quickly got used to deploying the blade. Love the thwack of the blade and is a surprisingly good all around knife.
Kitchen knives? I'm a kitchen dude and have noticed that kitchen knives use completely different types of steel than pocket knives. A) what's up with that? and B) what do you recommend ?
I have always loved hinkle knives when I was a chef also a lot of others had forschner chef knives and I have two still have two of them. A 10 inch chef's knife and a 18 inche. This was in the 90s still sharpen well..but I agree would love to see a video Dave
@@codychase295 I was always a MAC knives fan.
Hey guys love this piece. I know you’ve covered fixed blade tactical type knives a few times but a major consideration for me is the sheath. It is why I purchased a Gerber Strongarm a while back. The versatility and ambidextrous sheath was a huge factor. Are there any other manufacturers using similar sheaths?
DCA is the greatest i tried watching a blade hq video the other day and had ti turn it off after about 3 minutes. Its a pleasure to watch these videos where a true knife guy is the one explaining instead of 2 guys saying umms, ands and clearly have no passion for, or a clue what they're talking about. Thanks knife center and DCA for all that you do!
Agree
Oh that last answer inspired a good question! My collection is getting pretty big these daya, and I am struggling to store my knives in a way that still makes it easy for me to locate a particular one when I want it. What are some good, compact and relatively inexpensive storage options for a fixed blade collection. I think I can manage with my folders, but I'm still open to suggestions. I just want to be able to quickly locate a fixed blade without making a mess, and security would be a huge plus as well.
"...I did have to buy dedicated furniture for it.." Excellent answer DCA!
So excited you answered one of my questions! Thank you!
Great stuff guys! I enjoyed Seth's tunnel entrance! Also, this reminds me that I'm looking for a quality flashlight slim enough to fit in my pocket next to my knife and strong enough that i won't crush it at work. Thanks!
Streamlight Mirco or Macro stream.
Totally agree with your choice on the Pintail over the Elementum. Better steel and feels way better in hand. (IMO)
DCA, I have worked in the Machining and Manufacturing for 25 years. I can't conceive a Maching or Manufacturing Company not producing under the condition of sales for every model in real time. Some of these models are well known to be good sellers.
I admit, when the Adonis came available 2 weeks ago, I had requested notification when it became available, some what out of curiosity. It actually worked well.
I'm sure Seth is a great guy, I would not watch his bits, being as long as D's are.
Thanks for sharing your videos with us!
21:24 I love tip down carry 🙏 thank you 🙏 I know I am in the minority, but it is what I prefer. I feel like it is faster to deploy and I like how it pivots between my thumb and forefinger as I draw it from my pocket. I wish there were more tip down options honestly.
Very informative video guys ! Just ordered the Schrade double edge push dagger from y'all ... Can't wait Thanks !!!
I would like to add to the tip down reasons. Piggybacking on the first reason that it's nice to have it in the back pocket so the blade is against the seam, sometimes I feel for safety reasons that I NEED to have the blade against the seam. If you've never handled the Kershaw leek, let it be known that it's as sharp as a needle at the tip and nearly as thin as a sheet of paper. Kershaw is so afraid of that blade coming open accidentally when you bump the speedsafe mechanism that they include a lock on the handle to prevent it. That knife is a sexy sexy menace that must be stopped! (by denim)
Yo mr Seth thank you for the great information have a good day to all.
Tip-down is superior in many (most?) situations, especially with full-length handles. Tip-up forces a translational hand movement along the length of the knife to reach the front of the knife in order to be able to deploy the blade, whereas with tip-down, it is a simple rotational movement.
Nah -- tip up allows for easy pull and drop-pop, ice-pick deploy. Even with a blade as long as the folding SOCP, tip up deploy-to-icepick is super smooth.
@@gyffesme What is a drop-pop? Make a video demonstrating what you are talking about. (Somehow I don't think you will.)
@@sheltermonkey6065 Correct, I won't.
The knife comes with two clips: one sort of replicates the ring on the original fixed SOCP. Put that on in place of the straight pocket clip.
Thumb goes inside the pocket, index finger sits in/against the ring on the pocket clip. Pull straight up and with a slight drop-and-lift of your hand, the blade falls open. Snug the knife into your palm and you're holding a very long knife in an ice-pick grip. Takes moments.
@@gyffesme Naturally you won't make a video because you are just trolling nonsense. How does "the blade fall open" when the Axis lock is several inches away from your fingers which are at the other end of the knife?
@@sheltermonkey6065 I can see why you wanted a video: you don't read well. There's this great thing called inertia. It works with gravity to help the blade fall open. That's why tip-up works so well for my preferred deployment to the ice-pick grip.
I always look forward to the FAQ videos - please keep them rolling. Very much appreciated Seth's perspectives on tip down carry, would like to see more content like that. To the naysayers below please give Seth a break. Being on camera/public speaking = not like riding a bicycle. I vote for good content even if its not perfectly polished, and as we learned today that works best for push cuts ;-)
I’ve been carrying my kershaw leek tip down in my left front pocket for over a decade and it works perfect, you don’t have to worry about catching your hand on it and it can’t possibly open in your pocket.
Hi David! Much love and respect to you guys. Another great idea as the one that was taken into consideration by Spyderco which was to transform the Tenacious into a better knife by upgrading the Steel. Well David here goes another great idea! How about the Benchmade Valet as an auto and a little bigger? David plz don't forget to remind Spyderco that I suggested the Tenacious upgrade. Thank you brother!
Love your videos. Thank you! You seem like good dude
Filipino traditional blades are very deadly and they have some really wicked designs. I got goosebumps every time i see one.
Seth did great! Information I would never have thought of👹
Hi David,
My first question was answered brilliantly, so here I go again! Hope you can help me out with another one similar to my 1st question:
I'm looking for a folding knife, with the following features:
1) Flipper (that becomes a "guard")
2) Axis or Similar Cross-Bar Lock (**MUST** be bank-vault, bomb-proof strong)
3) Thumb Hole, either oval or round, doesn't matter, but **MUST** have it...
4) About 3" or more Blade Length
5) Pointy, not Wharncliffe, but needs some belly.
6) Optional, but would be game-winning: Full Flat Grind, finger choil, assist or bearings in the pivot and Deep Carry Pocket Clip
7) See if you can recommend me a budget and a premium version each.
Thanks so much!
I agree with tip down for a large knife in the back pocket. More than once I've had tip knives cut the carp out of me when they jarred open without my knowledge. tis is in addition to being so much faster to deploy the blade in an emergency. For personal defense, this can be hugely important.
KnifeMaker
I like the introduction. I didn’t know you have that kind of character
Nice explanation about tip up or tip down carry.
David, I have a question about sharpeners...I guess I am not too skilled at whetstones and traditional sharpening methods; that being said, what are your thoughts on pocket sharpeners? You know the ones...drag the blade across a coarse v-shaped medium, and then a fine grit. Are these any good, or should I try again to learn the art of the whetstone or strop method? What is the best? Thank you, David!
Love the video… my question is there any small skeleton fixed blade that you slapped scales on? … I loved my White River ATK and even more now that it has a set of wood scales.
Enjoyed it and glad Seff is going to be a regular
I’m surprised there wasn’t a buck 110/112 variant or original model
Hi David, given your experience in the kitchen, can you recommend a great chef's knife in the 8 inch range, either santoku or Fremch style, under $100 or so, and good in a pinch grip. Thanks for making these videos, guys, I've learned a lot!
The Mercer Culinary Genesis line is a great budget option. There are both short bolster and long bolster versions of some of the lengths. I prefer a short bolster, but someone commented to me that they prefers the long bolster for pinch grip.
Love the videos! Quick question..
Could you recommend a high end kitchen knife? I have a decent set and usually only use 1 out of the set.
How many knives? Speaking for myself, 2 knife rolls, 2 drawers, and every flat surface in my bedroom are covered. Total? Beats the heck out of me 🤷♂️
Hey DCA! Been loving the videos! Any recommendations for a reasonably priced then premium sheepsfoot blade? Thanks a million!
Thumbs up on the Hitchhiker's Guide reference in the title card!
Thanks for always thinking about us left handed knife users!
Leather man skeltool now edc. Light and easy.
Hey Seth, hope you see this comment dude. It can't be easy to step up and get in front of camera, and share your views in front of a large audience of very passionate people with some strong opinions. I like that you kept the pace even, you didn't rush, you didn't labour the point and you kept the tone positive. You and David make a good team, I'll look forward to your input in future. Be well!
Also, YAY SETH! Love interacting with him on IG.
Answer to Tommy. Check out the spyderco manix 2. You can get the lw for less money. But it has the crossbar style lock but with a regular coil spring. I have no idea why manixs never get the love they deserve. But I like the cage lock way more than an axis or compression lock.
That esee neck knife has caught my eye, I love the practicality of it but, it's not really a big enough / justifyable reason to buy it and get it shipped over to Scotland but the serial no on your demo one is my birthday! That is why it jumps out at me. Being UK, it's 5th Nov , not 11th may.
Love the informative videos. Look forward to them always.
Can you show the ideal Boot knife for the 511 tactical desert Atac 2.0 boot? I’m guessing a fixed blade with a sheath that would fit in the boots knife pocket. Thanks
0:05 Life, the Universe and Everything? I see what you did there! LOL See, this right here is the kind of thing that makes me love your videos so much! You guys rock!
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I’ve been trying to narrow down the best corrosion resistant folding knives that holds a edge better than H1. I stay around salt water and use a knife to heavily to constantly sharpen a soft blade.
Anything in LC200N - Spyderco uses it on a number of models -DCA
Hey David, I really enjoy your videos... I would like to see a segment on budget knives under $20 and $10. I use multitools knives ( Victorinox and Leatherman) along with a folder. I find with this combination it work for me. I rotate my edc every few days. I keep my knives budget friendly for work. I added a coldsteel kudo and kudo light and mini tac to my work edc.
I love the series of the FAQs. Currently my favorite type of metal is the S35VN steel. I’m looking for one fixed and one folder for the best value, preferably sub $200 each, do you have any recommendations? In addition, blade length is not an issue. GOD bless Texas.
Hey DCA, Nice work as always but have you heard of the Ruite Fang? I have close to a 100 knives and it is one of my gotos out of all of them. Granted it's a Chinese brand but the weight, feel and the fit and finish are GREAT! I just don't think this knife gets enough play. Thanks and keep up the good work. 👍
For mister than, I'd recommend the tops storm vector as well. Things a beast.
Super serious question: why aren't these episodes longer!?. I love learning about new knives and its a great way to spend a Saturday morning.
The video length probably has to do with viewer retention data. You and I may love longer videos, but I bet the majority of people are don't.
Longer than your average sitcom! :D -DCA
@@knifecenter those are still a thing? I don't have a TV.
@@knifecenter Fair point. But, why not the length of a feature film, perhaps?
Can you tell me what the ultimate truck knife or tactical weapon for a truck (or car) would be?
My Favorite All Around EDC is my Esee
S35VN Stainless Steel Izula with G10 handle scales 💪😎
DCA, what is your favorite knives, that you own, on the extremes of price: cheapest to most expensive. Of course, in case the significant other is watching you don’t have to tell the price😬
Mine is the Spydie Street Meat.
David I have the greatest idea for pocket clips that avoids changing anything. How is it that in such an up to date world there has not been a knife clip that can bend to the other side for Lefties? Great idea! I deserve a knife of my choice! By the way these are Kenton's great ideas!
Awesome video as usual , two questions for your next Q&A, Why isn't there much talk about the Spyderco Polstar ? Why is it so difficult to find a decent deep carry pocket clip for a Spyderco ? I fill the polstar is a awesome knife "even tho from China.
I love knives thanks for this channel
In addition to your EDC knife, be sure you always have a towel. (Love the Douglas Adams final line.)
Hello DCA!!! Following up with the end of the this video, I have a question about the furniture you purchased for your knife collection! I currently have somewhere between 200-300 knives and I am running into the same problem all serious collectors do.. space! What is the best storage recommendation for a large collection of knives and swords that is not a metal toolbox?! Thank you so much love the series keep up the good work!
Love the series by the way!
Hey DCA, what’s a knife you feel deserves more attention? Wether it’s because of how unique it is or maybe you just wanna shout out some love to a knife you personally enjoy.
DCA, thinking about getting a concealable fixed blade, and I’m leaning toward a Tops rapid strike. What other options would you recommend?
Thanks for going there on the tip debate. What are the good reasons for tip up?
David I’ll preface this comment with the fact that I love this channel! I was actually inquiring if you’ve ever heard of/ used/ think about the Pole Craft brand? I’ve been using them (almost) exclusively for my EDC. The only problem I’ve had with any of them was with the automatic (switchblade style) stiletto (the blade seems loose and moves kinda back and forth) but their spring blades and especially their fixed are actually very sturdy, extremely sharp and very budget friendly. Just an inquiry brother 🤙 I’ve got 3 co worker’s who are also serious EDC guy’s and I’ve recommended your channel to them and they dig it. Be well and stay safe out there 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 HAPPY 244th BIRTHDAY AMERICA!!!!
Is there a steel type that lend themselves well to Scandinavian grind? And why is it so difficult to find a scandy folder? I love how easy it is to sharpen a scandy. The quicker and easier it is to sharpen, the more likely I am to do it often enough. Any hints DCA? Cheers from Canada and Taiwan! Thanks for the great videos!
This videos are always great
I appreciated your take on the polished vs toothy question, so I'm curious if you've seen or heard anything on this "Dual Grit" sharpening stuff coming around recently. Not the lower grit secondary bevel stuff, the actual lower grit on one side, high grit/polish on the other... If so, what's your take?
Could be genius or completely stupid, but I want it to be better
I have been experimenting with it and dual grit is no joke. It really is the best of both worlds
Haven't tried that out. Will have to keep an eye out on that. -DCA
@@knifecenter Pete from Cedric and Ada channel has a video about it. Seems to have opened a can of worms 🪱 with it.
@@requiscatinpace7392 It works and works very well. Particularly with steels that are not high in vanadium. 154-cpm for instance really shines with a 400-600 grit on one side and a 1200 grit on the other.
Another thing I have found is in stropping. Sense we are talking about non high vanadium steels, No need for diamond slurry on the strop. Rub the strop down with some Flitz or Simi chrome polish and it will do a fantastic jot. the secret is not to over strop when sung the dual grit system.
Too much stropping destroys the toothy edge the dual grit system produces. Once the polish is fully dried, ( it only takes a few minutes), with NO pressure on the blade, strop at the same angle the teeth were sharpened in the fist place. Only strop heal to tip. Never strop a toothy edge tip to heal. (Hilt).
Do not roll the edge b lifting the spine when stropping a toothy edge as this too will destroy the teeth quickly. Place the edge on the strop where the entire surface of the sharpened part of e blade is in contact with the strop.
With no pressure on the blade, knife weight only, make no more than two passes per side, alternating between sides. Anymore and the toothy edge will be degraded.
Oddly, I have been testing this same technique with M-390. CV20, and CPM 90v, and although these are high vanadium steel, the polish on the strop is working just as well as diamond paste. Didn't think it would, but is giving stellar performance.
Side note: This is NOT for a push cutting edge but rather a hard use slicing heal too tip cutting in tough materials. (Works very well in dressing game as well as it will not tend to slide over the material but rather bite into it in a very aggressive manor.
Be careful. This type of edge is always looking for something to bite, and a cut from this type of edge burns like the dickens. Super glue is your friend. LOL!
I just finished the blade on a Benchmade 940-1 with a 90V blade purchased from the Knife Center by my Brother. He sent it to me as a gift and I rec'd it last week. Woo-Hoo!!!
KnifeMaker/Retired, 47 years as a Knife Maker
Happy Freedom Day! Also- since we'll all be eating like wild, can you recommend any big belly folders for a slightly-larger-than-average-sized hand?
I really the new segment. I think it's going bring in a lot of new people.
When they got a chunky rear I go tip up too.
hey DCA, im after a modern traditional folder with a roundish tip? ie needs pocket clip and some fidget factor.
Also a fixed blade for 90 percent food prep and 10 percent camp uses.
budget is loose but everything here in Australia is near double the U.S
Thanks x
Great program as always! Congrats!
I want to buy for my edc a better knife. I’m looking for an assisted one, with flipper opening and axis lock. But I see it isn’t very common. Can you recommend me one?
Hey David! I am ready to buy a Chris Reees Sebenza 31 or a Hinderer XM-18 3.5. I own the ZT0562 and love the flipping action but isn't as slicey as I'd like. To get the "feel" of a Sebenza I bought a Sebenza like knife (Land 912) and LOVED how it cut but wasn't a fan of thumb stud opening. Is there something out there that flips like a Hinderer and slices like a Reeve?
Love the channel! I wanted to know what your opinion on serrations was? I have been eyeing the dragonfly salt and dragonfly salt hawkbill both with serrations for awhile now but don’t know if I want to deal with sharpening them. Thoughts?
Hey David, can you explain to us the Tac Raze line from Tops? Do those knives have a specific use in mind or is it just a fun design? Thanks!
Nice douglas adams outro! Great books.
24:44 oooohh the BUCK WAIMEA what an awesome knife and an awesome place (Waimea north shore OAHU) is about 25 mins from my house there’s a “famous” rock there (the Waimea rock) everyone jumps off it’s a blast!
Well done sirs!