I found my boyfriend dead in 2013. He was not answering texts and calls so I went to his house. First I panicked then passed out. I have only a few vague memories for about two weeks afterwards. I can still remember the details of finding him clearly. Shock is real. I'm so glad people are supporting Dylan. Prayers to the surviving victims and all the families.
I have a hard time remembering a couple weeks, after my mom passed away. Especially the day of though, there's only a few scenes i remember and I'm ok with that. I'm sorry you lost your boyfriend, thats very sad.
The reality of 8 hour gap is obvious. She did not know what happened and therefore not looking at the moment like we are now knowing the outcome. Kids do not wake up on Sunday morning after staying out late. The house would have been quiet so sleeping until noon is normal. Leave her alone and wait until trial.
Exactly. Unfortunately the trolls are going to to spew out their hate, even though they may not even have an opinion. If the families were blaming her, the same trolls that are berating her, would probably be defending her.
That’s what I was thinking. I feel like maybe she just got really scared & went back to her room & obviously after Kolhberger left it would be quiet in the house. So she most likely just went to sleep & woke up to find that terrible scene.
This poor girl will be traumatized for the rest of her life and now she has to deal with people being upset she didn't call right away.. we need to pray for this young woman that shes able to heal from all of this.
Don't forget their where drugs inside the place they need to flush them before calling 911 I've seen some of the party videos on tiktok but why remove it was exposing stuff
@@Kthb80 if she's not guilty what's the problem if I were being accused of something I would be mad I would be traumatized because people are blaming me
I had a traumatic experience at 9 yo. I was in shock for I don’t know how long. I couldn’t move, speak or anything. Then I either passed out or fell asleep. I woke up or came to and it was daylight. When my eyes opened I was trying to figure out where the time went. It’s frightening. I absolutely understand that it does happen, no clue how. I can’t imagine how she must be feeling. It’s not her fault.
Same with me at age 7. I froze as well, Didn’t speak or eat for over a day. And alls I can remember is the first few seconds of realizing what i was seeing. After that moment everything seems like a blur.
So as a lawyer you know universities may cover up or pin it on someone it’s just what law enforcement do so was her description of him before as of like day one!!! Not a narrative
I bet he sliding door was probably open. DM had NO IDEA that her roommates were being murdered. Who would think that? I am sure he startled her but not sure her thoughts went farther than that. I pray for both surviving roommates and for the families and their lost children/brother/sister. Prayers to all of us to be more compassionate.
not too long ago we had a murderer who shot 17 people and still got a life sentence cauz one of the juror felt it was not needed. this will be yet an other media and court room circus. I stand for Death penalty. i wish he get one.
Don't forget their where drugs inside the place they need to flush them before calling 911 I've seen some of the party videos on tiktok but why remove it was exposing stuff
When this first happened I really didn’t think it would be a stranger death by an unknown person is rare. So frightening this is literally what nightmares are made of. The thought that one person can kill four people in 20 minutes is crazy and with just a knife. My family has always had a security plan if someone broke in and this case made us make some changes. God bless those families.
@@stellarwind1946 Be wary of our human brain making connections without evidence, trying to connect dots even if it means to make up some story. It's called bias confirmation and it's the opposite of rational, critical thinking.
Yes ! Exactly ! Everyone is focusing on how she was in shock and didn’t call quickly. She did a great job by getting a description of the suspect which we may not have had
She may of thought he was suppose to be their. Possible friends of Kaylee and Maddie. I lived in a environment like this in my twenties with various roommates. I don't know everyone they knew. She may not of known if he was a intruder or suppose to be their. This was the dynamics of the home. Six people all 19-21 were living in this 🏠.
I am 67 years old and still I think I am making mistakes and wishing I could turn back time. DM is young, her mind is young, she was scared and she didn't know what to do. We all would know how to do things better in hindsight.
I had a blind date when I was young and I could tell he was not right, mentally. His eyes were like so scary. Came home quickly. A few hours later at my door someone was pounding. I looked though the peephole and it was him. I was so frightened I froze completely. I went back to bed and fell asleep in about two minutes. I just left my body in fear. should I have called the police, yes. I just froze like a bad dream. Defies logic. But people do odd things when they are that frightened. Give her a major break!
I lived in a similar house in college. There were some weekends where I was separated from my roommates and I’d stay in my room while they were in another part of the house being loud, partying, yelling, being wild, etc. our doors were never locked. Their friends and my friends were dropping in randomly all the time. I’d see people in the house I never met before cuz we didn’t have all the same friends. I was never “afraid” because that was the norm. She probably had no idea what he did while she was home
@@anniezion I haven’t experienced anything like she did, but I *have* experienced doubt/denial in how serious something is. I have also experienced getting a ‘vibe’ off someone. It would make sense to me if she was initially startled, immediately followed by a sinking gut feeling that this is a ‘bad guy’. She freezes, then locks herself in her room, and spends the next while simultaneously terrified and trying to rationalize the situation. It may have been easier to rationalize based on the fact that he didn’t come at her. But also too scared to come out and check in with everyone else about who he was. 🤷🏼♀️
@@cave2484 we know. It's drugs and alcohol. Ambien or melatonin and alcohol at tha hour. You ain't waking up for nothing but your bladder. Drugs and dental.
Maybe she did. We don't know and we aren't owed that information. The only one that will be convicting the murderer is the jury ,not the general public or social media.
i AGREE WITH THE ATTORNEY SAYING IT TOOK TOO LONG TO CALL THE POLICE. AND THE FACT THAT SHE WAS SO TERRIFIED, SHOULD HAVE ALERTED HER TO CALL THEM SOONER.
Let me understand, she's peeing her pants in fear, is unable to hit 9 1 1, silent the phone, hit 9 1 1 again and again whisper the address under a pillow...hmmmm.
Mr. Gray is absolutely correct. Everyone needs to remember she's also a victim in this case. No one knows how they would really react in this type of scenario. People can say all they want "I wouldn't have waited to call 911" or "I would have called the police right away" but when it comes down to it, no one knows how they would react unless they were put through it. Give Dylan a chance to process and heal because she has a long road ahead of her. The survivors guilt she's probably already suffering is unimaginable - this poor girl needs support and love.
How is DM a victim? Please tell me’ make me understand. He spared her life. She should count her lucky stars ⭐️. He never layed a finger on her. She could have possibly saved a couple of the students if she’d dialed 911 immediately. So’ I don’t feel she’s a victim. How’d she freeze? She didn’t know murders were happening.
Me personally! I’m not staying in any house after seeing a weird person in my house , hearing my roommates dog barking crazy. Hearing crying NOOOOO ! I’m calling the police ! I’m not going to sleep. Not saying beat the girl down and blame her ! Keep in mind he’s been stalking them for a few months ! Your telling me he ain’t know how many people lived in that home ? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
When Dylan heard noises and then saw the intruder in the house. She did not know that 4 of her roommates were murdered. She froze, she was beyond scared. I bet she was up and curled up in a corner, not sure what will happen next. She was probably even in a catatonic phase. She does not need to live her life having people accuse her of waiting so long to call 911. Her life will never be the same, her youth of being able to party and have fun with her friends, will never be the same and not even sure if she will allow herself that luxury. Why? Because people are blaming her for waiting so long or that she was involved. She is most likely suffering from PTSD. She needs our love and support and just stop with the, why she waited so long. Sadly, even if she called 911 right away, it would not have saved the 4 victims.
We really don't know the "even if she called 911 right away it would not have saved the 4 victims" But what we must remember she is a victim too and also we do not have the full story yet. She might have been locked in to that room, feared for her life, not knowing if the man was still there and perhaps with no phone available. What puzzles me more though, is the day after, why not call the cops right away, when there is blood everywhere.But maybe she/they did not enter the rooms fully, were the victims were and perhaps dark in the rooms, so when not getting any response from either of them, calling a friend to come over..
EIGHT HOURS !!! I am not blaming her but I am not defending her either. Whoever is defending her blindly doesn't really want the truth. Wait till the information is revealed.
@@anniezion she had a phone she was on tik tok at 4.13 am so yes she had a phone and saying she was froze doesn’t add up either . So it will all come out. Things don’t add up. Everyone is entitled to there opinion and you evidently haven’t read the report .
@@anniezion I agree she is a victim too. I think she called her friends from her room (my guess). She was so scared that she wanted their support before coming out of the room and to check on everyone together. She was too scared to do it by herself and with the other roommate. Why is noone questioning her? When she woke up amd went upstairs, what did she see? Like you said, we do not know the full story. What the 2 girls went through, will stay with them for the rest of their lives. It will be a nightmare and they will need the love and support and lots of therapy.
I hope she can heal from this, the survivors guilt, the hate from the people, the trauma and loss of her friends. I'm glad she's alive, she probably saved her life by doing what she did.
Absolutely, this roommate needs to be given compassion for the traumatic experience she went through. Also, she did give valuable information for the affidavit.
I can only imagine what Dylan went through as a witness!!! Im 41 years old and Im very aware Im a person that tends to freeze. A bad injury along blood makes me faint. I have lived a couple traumatic experiences and each time I Frozen for real for a few hours. When my father past away, I was in a different city for work reasons, my sister called me around 10 PM to inform my about my fathers passing, I actually went to bed and till next morning around 7am it hit me and started to react and make arrangments to travel back to where my family was!!! I can not even understand to the day how was I even able to sleep but I did!!!! ... If I ever have to be in charge of kids I always ask and inform them, please dont bleed because if you do I am going to faint AND wont be able to help you!!! It has happened more than once!!! for just over hearing the description of a nose job!!!! I feel Dylan so much! As everyone affected by this tragic event, God bless everyones hearts! Big Kudos for the Moscow PD
Why would anyone expect DM to have called 911 immediately???? She didn't know he was the killer. She didn't know that her roommates were dead! She was most likely in shock that someone saw her peeping out her bedroom door, and mostly embarrassed he might of seen her. Her greatest shock was after she realized that the person, she saw was the killer. That's when the real terror set in.
Honestly this is one of those cases that is infuriating. He took these kids lives and didn't even know them. He robbed them and their families of their future. If he's found guilty they should make an example of him and expedite the death penalty the same way they did for the Oklahoma city bomber.
@@LisaPeterson227 too bad you live under a rock and never had to experience a terrifying event. This happens many times to trauma victims and this time it saved this young woman's life. Please educate yourself.
@@fenderblue9485 So it's, she didn't call the cops because she didn't think there was something wrong while simultaneously being terrified enough to Freeze and lock herself in her room ...makes sense
Killer walks by Suspect -> Suspect “waits” 8 hours to call authorities -> Killer questions police if another person has been caught when placed under arrest. Sounds like this girl could possibly be affiliated with the killer in my opinion.
Absolutely agree with Mr Gray! She is a hero for describing how the killer looked and what he was wearing. That's what I thought. And what she heard, chilling details otherwise would probably never came out. Trough to her we come so close to the truth. She should know she didn't do anything wrong, she is unharmed, that's a miracle we al should be so proud of her she survived this and giving this details that are so important to the investigation.
If one thing is going to go wrong in this trial its that the crime scene was completely compromised bc she called friends before police. I am trying to give the benefit of the doubt but most of this is completely unbelievable. The defense can claim the sheath was planted as a cover up, touch dna can be harder to convict. I just hope that her decisions do not prevent justice bc if her trauma is real it will be even worse if she is the reason he gets away with it.
@@marakahl you do not know all the details. The killer left his DNA at the crime site along with other criminal behaviors. Her TRAUMA is real and hands off she was there to give a brief description of the killer. It will not be her fault even if he walks. I'm sure she called her friend for comfort and support to move forward. Compromised means she tampered with evidence, she checked on her roommates and found the deceased. Even the reporters verified the police found the sheath, only killers DNA was on the sheath.
I am so glad to hear him say there could be a reasonable answer to why DM reacted as she did. It has been disheartening to see how badly people have been beating her down in the comments. Kaylee's dad has defended her. Kaylee's sister said people need to stop judging her based on the affidavit. Now the lawyer? Anyone who still wants to beat her down, really just wants to troll, because there's barely any part of her story in that affidavit.
No one is beating her down it seems to me that people are asking questions which they have a right to do... and I don't think the father or the sister are going to go on an interview and talk about her so I wouldn't put too much into that
@@junebuchholtz287 They both made it a point to say that in their interviews. And no, we don't have the right to ask, since we still don't have all the info. So who are you and others asking for an answer right now, when they don't have them either?
Waited 8 hours to call 911 if she was sooo scared and was just on tic toc she had a phone to call the authorities but instead she took a nap and waited a whole work day to call the police??? Gtfoh
@@junebuchholtz287 OH YET too many folks HAVE been being EXTREMELY JUDGMENTAL and Righteous regarding she did not act properly in some way!! Hopefully this coverage will SHUT THE BS DOWN. WE have NO IDEA.
Defense Lawyers, its their job to question events such as this. The main reasons I suspect are to 1) cast a reasonable doubt into the case. 2) deflect from the defendant/perpetrator. Keep in mind that criminal cases have to be much more rock solid than civil cases, especially when it involves capital murder(s).
There's a lot on him but what about if drugs played any role here? What about DMs cell activity? Did DM make her story up to show her inconsistency that would be revealed as far as her being aware of his presence? What about how long the crime scene was able to get manipulated. A knife sheath on the bed... That's awfully convenient. Could it have been placed there? The defense is going to go after DM and how long this crime scene was left unattended. If they sold drugs out of this house and Bryan ever bought, that's going to be huge as well
You hear a roommate crying and a few bumps (nothing else), you see someone walking out calmly. Yeah, he spooked you at 4am but you would rationalise, maybe a roommate brought a guy home and she didn't want him to leave, you'll ask her in the morning. Morning comes and no one else is up, you'd probably think, wow, they must have had a great night and are sleeping in. It gets longer and still no one is up, you think about checking on them but don't want them to be mad at you or whatever. Eventually you get worried and that's when you find everyone. Now, at the moment we don't know what happened in DMs mind but can you honestly say that this scenario isn't a possibility. We'll find out when she testifies
I really think she convinced herself she was overthinking it and called a friend to come check. Maybe a male or someone armed to some extent(?) like she felt sketched out enough to not want to leave her secure room but not sketched out enough to warrant calling police.
Her not calling immediately changed nothing about the outcome.....fear...panic...denial...who knows why she didn't. This isn't the first time this has happened in similar situations.....the mind is a funny thing sometimes 👌
Except for the fact that maybe, just maybe, one of the victims may have been able to survive had they gotten medical attention right away instead of bleeding out for 8 hours…
@@caidenfarrington9655 based on everything the coroner was saying (that she shouldn’t have been saying publicly but that’s a whole other issue…) they all had injuries in which they were deceased by the time he left their rooms. I don’t think any of them we still alive but bleeding out.
No, but reportedly the sight of this guy terrified her. So, I think it is valid to ask if an intruder in your home terrified you, would you simply lock your door and go to sleep ?
@ John G if there was an intruder in my home they’d be dead or seriously injured but that’s different because I don’t live with a bunch of roommates. She could have been terrified because she was expecting to see someone she knows but it was some random person. Maybe she thought one of her friends invited this person over and she locked her door because she was going to sleep and there’s random people in the house that she doesn’t know.
The public won’t ask her questions but you bet your life on this the defendant attorney will ask her questions so I pray she’s strong enough to take the stand
Why should she be afraid of that? She did nothing wrong and that will be her chance to tell how it really was (was probably too drunk to react, house was open, lot of strangers partying their all the time etc etc)
It's easy to say what you think you would do in this situation. The reality is you have no idea what you would do. They say "fight or flight", it's actually "fight, freeze, or flight".
@Sarah It's speculation because there's nothing to prove otherwise. She didn't know her roommates were being murdered, so what stopped her from checking out the crying she heard?
Name ONE movie scene or ONE reality TV episode where the terrified individual WAITED 8 hours to contact 911 and referring to blood splattered roommates as unconscious. -
I have no doubts about the innocence of the roommates. I just didn't understand why she said she froze when she saw Bryan since she wasn't aware of the murders yet but you explain it in this post.
Saw this on comment on 10 to life but it’s known that shock can last for days, sometimes multiple weeks. Please leave this girl alone .. she’s going through a lot more than most of us can imagine 🙏🏼
People keep saying 8 hours before calling 911 about the murder... but did she even know the murders had happened? All she saw was a stranger in the house. There's no indication that she knew there were murders.
This poor girl. She is going to suffer from survivor's guilt probably forever, plus the added issue of not calling 911 right away. She will carry this burden and it will be hard. I hope she is getting counseling and hope people leave her alone.
Glad the father isn’t blaming the roommate. She is probably feeling horrible. Traumatic experience. Glad she could give a description. She’s lucky to be alive. Why 8 hours - maybe both people went to sleep?
Her description wasn't that good ! His eyebrows aren't that bushy and 5ft10 or taller is pretty vague , he looks 6ft2 , he towers over most of the guards !
@DontBanOllie That is what his drivers license says and that could be from years ago . it's not like it's his medical records that get updated every couple of months !
8 hours to call for help? No one waits 8 hours to call for help in any type of emergency? An automobile accident? No. You’re at a party and someone’s in distress and needs help you call 911? Do wait eight hours? No.
Lawyer says "we need to ask questions" about the roommate but the police have already asked those questions, interrogated and investigated the roommate and stated that she is a witness and not involved so no the public doesn't need to ask questions or harass her. The answers will come out in the trial. We need her to feel safe enough and strong enough to testify.
So ridiculous how they are approaching this poor young lady, especially the lawyer suggesting she had knowledge of a crime when she closed the door. The 8-hour gap is VERY easy to explain... She comes home (maybe a little buzzed or a lot buzzed). She lives in a varsity house that is like a railway station most days of the week, more so on weekends She just heard GrubHub deliver food to your pals, You heard some light crying and what sounded like your noisy roommates being noisy with their dog... AGAIN. She hears some words that don't quite make sense at the time you hear them, but no one is screaming. She opens the door with NO KNOWLEDGE of any crime or any serious problem, see some weirdo (maybe not the first time a strange dude has left the house at a strange time) You fall asleep and wake up 8-hours later on what was a SUNDAY MORNING. Why would she need to wake up any earlier of to going to sleep at 430am? Man, I have teenagers that don't party all night and still get out of bed at midday on a Sunday. Let see what the rest of her statement says when she gets to trial.
Your story is missing the part when she said in her statement that she froze..if just "seeing a weirdo" and not the first time perhaps, why would she say she froze and locked the door?
ok explain this.... She heard her friend crying BEFORE---> BEFORE!!! she saw someone yet didn't go check to see if her friend was hurt? drunk, drugged? You'd still check on your friend!!!! your HOUSEMATE IS CRYING!!!!!!
Sure. But the story here is more of "she looked out, saw some weirdo and went back to her room, as the house being like a "railway station" people coming and going, and the whole thing not being a big deal to her (DM) Then the freezing does not fit, imo.
@@anniezion The other thing I wonder is how she wouldn’t have seen the guy covered in blood with a knife in his hand also covered in blood. Police said the crime scene was pretty gruesome so it seems logical that the murderer would have that all over him, or at the very least have a blood covered weapon. And it’s not as if the knife could’ve been sheathed and hid from her view because the sheath to the knife was left behind at the scene. I guess it depends on lighting and how visible he actually was to here and how many details she could actually see. But it’s very strange and I can’t figure out how she couldn’t have seen blood anywhere on him.
Casia mentioned that the young roommate saw BK in the house. I knew she had a description somewhat, but didn't realize she actually could clearly identify him and did. So I suppose now that he's been positively identified by the roommate, that's a great piece of information to move forward with.
She was Frozen...scared! Why not call 911. She heard her friend crying BEFORE---> BEFORE!!! she saw someone yet didn't go check to see if her friend was hurt? What up Dylan?
That poor girl will be traumatized for the rest of her life. I know if it were I, I would have gone into my room and hid too. I would wonder if he were coming back, listening at the door, just so many terrifying thoughts going through her head. People need to leave this girl alone!
Going out for a smoke? Come on! Sorry but she said she froze in fear so she knew something was wrong. I’m not blaming her and yes she provided info but it’s only normal for people to ask questions.
Agree with you about attny saying going out for a smoke. Give me a break. I just think there is so much more information to come so I'm saving any judgements about that but the smoke... she knew he wasn't supposed to be there.
I’m seeing 90% support for Dylan online and I’m seeing people address the 10% of people not supporting her. Why don’t they ever talk about how much support is given? Celebrities do this. They get 99% love, then talk about the 1% of rude comments they get on Twitter or something. It’s a strange way to talk about things.
I saw that the 'unconscious' roommate referred to in the phone call was one of the surviving girls who fainted upon discovering what happened. That makes alot more sense.
Fainting is very short lived. Seconds, at most couple minutes. Not hours! That's coma! Catatonic state is the only way this will make a lick of sense. One would be hospitalize in that case.
The male voice could have been the boyfriend talking to his girlfriend that he was going to try to help her after they were both attacked, especially knowing crying was heard. So sad but its what first came to mind. It seems so important to find out if the witness saw whether the offender had to unlock the glass door to leave, because if not, then it is possible it had been left unlocked and that is where he made entry. It seems the easiest access point. Also imagining he seemed focused on leaving that way and you would think he would leave the way he entered, as it would be known already to be open access.
She is blessed to be alive & so is the other roomate. The public needs to be thankful and stop their unkindness & critical remarks. Our prayers for these girls and all the victims family.
I'm so sick of hearing all this "just stop asking questions about Dylan". The questions are relevant. It's weird that she waited that long and you all know it.
I have to disagree that she had a bone chilling encounter with the killer. Because at the time she didn't know he was a killer. Had she sensed something wrong she would have text her friends or called them to see f they were ok that night . Kids are glued to their phones these days. She was either half asleep and didn't think anything of it and went back to sleep, or she was drunk or under the influence and then also went to sleep .Not until the next day did she realize something was wrong. I doubt she was frozen in fear.
I hope that the reason they find for not calling 911 blows up in their face! It could be for example she could have just thought it was her friends contact for any reason since so many people came thru there. He spooked her out because it was also a shock when she opened the door of course. But she could have finally just gone to bed after locking her door and everything was quiet after that. There’s nothing wrong here! I’m so angry people are focusing on that! SHUT UP AND WAIT!! That girl is innocent no matter what! SHE LOST 4 FRIENDS IN JUST A FEW MINUTES! Just shut up about her! I wish I could wrap her in my arms and give her a huge hug! Makes me cry for her! 😥
Another drama queen... the girl has problems with drugs and alcohol hopefully her mother and father will now get her some help she should not have been in that house at all
I must be missing something. She didn't know anybody was stabbed to death yet she sees a man in her house why wouldn't she call the police? Why are you so frightened? You don't know he stabbed people
It was night. She didn't expect to see a man at that point so it scared her. He walked out without showing her any aggression or evilness, so she probably thought she was overreacting about one of her roommate's friends, so she decided to get sleep and talk to them in the morning about him.
They continue to make excuses for her behavior. But that is all it is...excuses. She knew something was wrong bc she locked her door with her phone but didn't call the police or check on friends. So lets continue to make excuses bc that's what we do ..we make excuses for horrible behavior. Pathetic.
@@valleygirl2530 If my roommate was crying and I saw a stranger in the house, I would find out wtf was going on with my friend. I do not trust anyone. I could not sleep knowing someone was upset. I think Xana could have survived if 911 was called immediately. Obviously, Xana was alive after the attack.
Yes valley girl my grandson at three years old dial 911 to save his grandmothers life, so yes it is something that is taught my grandson is known around the world for his heroic actions. His name is Jaden JADEN Bolli you can look it up. For a 20 year old not to call the police is just unheard of. She heard whining, she heard whimpering. She heard Kaylee say someone’s in here she heard the dog bark. She heard Ethan fighting an attacker, and then Saul a mass man in the home that would not seem to be normal even on a party day, so I think her whole story is astronomical
4 people being stabbed to death a foot away!!!! And she failed to call 911!!!! She and he had to know each other!! IT will come out and she should be charged if guilty!!! A dude a block and a half got stabbed by my house i heard him screaming!!!!
I know her dad is heartbroken and just wants justice for his daughter but it wasn't only him and his family who lost someone. There are 3 other families involved who are equally heartbroken and want justice too. He's been really vocal, rightfully so, but he's also said on national news that he went and questioned people during the investigation prior to the suspect being apprehended. Now he's been on almost every news channel and talking about things the victims' families aren't usually heard speaking publicly about until theres been a conviction and their giving their victim impact statement to the court. All im saying is I just really hope nothing hurts the case. Now, his attorney is speaking to media about the case, the evidence, and the defendant. I pray for his family and his daughter as well as the other families and victims. I think of them daily. I just pray nothing causes any problems for the case. I know the last thing anyone would want would be a mistrial for some reason or on a technicality. If anyone will find something for a mistrial, it will be this defense attorney appointed to the case.
It's hard to say this bc of the great loss he's suffered but he needs to take a seat for now. He has been sort of doing too much and even looks like he's gotten a "celebrity makeover." I think is a twisted way he wants to be seen as a cool, hip dad.
She's an alleged victim and he is an alleged murderer. Nothing has been a 100% proven. Remember, innocent UNTIL proven guilty despite Popular opinion. Everyone jumps to pass blame now days with all the cameras. How many people have been charged with a crime that didn't commit or a victim was later found to be an accomplice? I'm not saying he is innocent or she is guilty. I'm saying there is lack of evidence shown so far.
The roommate would have no idea there had been murders when she saw him pass her room-she wouldn’t have had a clue why he was there-who would have ever suspected what happened?
There shouldn't be any assumptions about DM at this point. She could be lying and/or dereliction of moral duty, and lives could have been saved. Or she's a truthful witness, went into shock, and her lack of action wouldn't have even made a difference.
"who know's?" is not a sufficient answer for not checking on your roommates after hearing everything she heard. It's just not. She deserves no praise, she owes everyone especially the families answers. If she was so scared, how did she go to bed for 8 hours and proceed not to call the authorities until noon? makes literally no sense, "who know's?" is not a sufficient justification for what she didn't do. Inexcusable. Out of all the possible things you can do in that situation, she easily did the most unbelievable. Going into her room, apparently so scared she didn't text or call anyone, instead she went to sleep for 8 whole hours? She owes answers, simple as that.
"To expect normal behavior out of an abnormal person to me really doesn't make much sense." Amen. People need to stop looking for motive and closure. DNA is sufficient. So just lock him up in prison and throw away the key already. Next story.
Well, motive is crucial to understanding, but sometimes people kill just to see how it feels. After 50 years of serial killers becoming a mainstream topic, and attracting a fandom, they may desire to play the games of their heroes. Mental health issues are clearly a factor. When you're isolated and detached, it's easy to lose touch with yours, and others humanity. The Internet is a perfect example of that. People become avatars for any negative impression others want to place on them. That's less likely to happen if they are in your presence.
“8 hours is long if your roommates were just sad slashes to death” isn’t it better to ask “didn’t call police for 8 hours after you saw a guy walking trough your house” because that’s basically all she saw.
I found my boyfriend dead in 2013. He was not answering texts and calls so I went to his house. First I panicked then passed out. I have only a few vague memories for about two weeks afterwards. I can still remember the details of finding him clearly. Shock is real. I'm so glad people are supporting Dylan. Prayers to the surviving victims and all the families.
I’m sorry you had to experience that
So the police weren't notified of the death for two weeks ? Or did someone else contact the police ?
^ This. Our brains do weird things to protect us.
I’m so sorry you went through that. I hope you have found some peace. ❤️
I’m so sorry
I have a hard time remembering a couple weeks, after my mom passed away. Especially the day of though, there's only a few scenes i remember and I'm ok with that. I'm sorry you lost your boyfriend, thats very sad.
The reality of 8 hour gap is obvious. She did not know what happened and therefore not looking at the moment like we are now knowing the outcome. Kids do not wake up on Sunday morning after staying out late. The house would have been quiet so sleeping until noon is normal. Leave her alone and wait until trial.
Exactly. Unfortunately the trolls are going to to spew out their hate, even though they may not even have an opinion. If the families were blaming her, the same trolls that are berating her, would probably be defending her.
That’s what I was thinking. I feel like maybe she just got really scared & went back to her room & obviously after Kolhberger left it would be quiet in the house. So she most likely just went to sleep & woke up to find that terrible scene.
Yes, exactly.
First of all she's underage she shouldn't be drinking she's so drunk that she's sleeping till noon there's a problem there
@@junebuchholtz287What’s the problem there? A 20yo partying living in a college town, why is that a problem lmao
This poor girl will be traumatized for the rest of her life and now she has to deal with people being upset she didn't call right away.. we need to pray for this young woman that shes able to heal from all of this.
Hope the trail is televised, I'd like to hear what she has to say under oath to Bryan's attorneys
Even worse she has to deal with people accusing her of being in on it with him, it’s disgusting.
Don't forget their where drugs inside the place they need to flush them before calling 911 I've seen some of the party videos on tiktok but why remove it was exposing stuff
@@Kthb80 if she's not guilty what's the problem if I were being accused of something I would be mad I would be traumatized because people are blaming me
@@Kthb80 it’s certainly a huge red flag…
I was stabbed by 2 men several years ago. I lost sense of safety and comfort, and still have nightmares. That is another life sentence.
So sorry to hear that, how horrible for you.
Sending many hugs. Most people don't understand how trauma will change their lives forever. It doesn't just go away.
God prey they don't give him a plea deal
I had a traumatic experience at 9 yo. I was in shock for I don’t know how long. I couldn’t move, speak or anything. Then I either passed out or fell asleep. I woke up or came to and it was daylight. When my eyes opened I was trying to figure out where the time went. It’s frightening. I absolutely understand that it does happen, no clue how. I can’t imagine how she must be feeling. It’s not her fault.
Same with me at age 7. I froze as well, Didn’t speak or eat for over a day. And alls I can remember is the first few seconds of realizing what i was seeing. After that moment everything seems like a blur.
I can't imagine the terror she felt in that moment, and still gave a good description of what she saw. God be with her
8 hours !!!!!
@@Ellaz201 Well, she most likely fell asleep at some point.
This lawyer is spot on. Kudos to him for saying all he did.
So as a lawyer you know universities may cover up or pin it on someone it’s just what law enforcement do so was her description of him before as of like day one!!! Not a narrative
Calling him a gentleman, as Silber did, is really bizarre n creepy.
I bet he sliding door was probably open. DM had NO IDEA that her roommates were being murdered. Who would think that? I am sure he startled her but not sure her thoughts went farther than that. I pray for both surviving roommates and for the families and their lost children/brother/sister. Prayers to all of us to be more compassionate.
Exactly, if she knew they were dead she would’ve called a lot sooner I’m assuming anyway
Speculation:
BK ordered doordash via a burner account - this allowed him to get in through slider and get upstairs while e/x were distracted.
@@Kthb80 I’m wondering if she passed out on her room from shock because we know she passed out later,
Sad
@@Kyle-uz1rp The one who ordered door dash was Xana, the victim from the second floor. Not any of the roommates on the first floor.
A mother of one of the victims said when asked about the possibility of the death penalty: "I'm glad we live in Idaho."
not too long ago we had a murderer who shot 17 people and still got a life sentence cauz one of the juror felt it was not needed. this will be yet an other media and court room circus. I stand for Death penalty. i wish he get one.
Until you get 3 people on the jury for the death penalty hearing that voted no like in Florida.
Yep has to be 100 percent
Don't forget their where drugs inside the place they need to flush them before calling 911 I've seen some of the party videos on tiktok but why remove it was exposing stuff
@@davis70140 Not true most states have laws about calling police in moments like this and they legally cant do anything about the drugs.
When this first happened I really didn’t think it would be a stranger death by an unknown person is rare. So frightening this is literally what nightmares are made of. The thought that one person can kill four people in 20 minutes is crazy and with just a knife. My family has always had a security plan if someone broke in and this case made us make some changes. God bless those families.
You may want to edit your words as you've made several errors, starting with your first sentence.
I bet there was a connection to one of them. He’s been in that house before.
@@stellarwind1946 Be wary of our human brain making connections without evidence, trying to connect dots even if it means to make up some story. It's called bias confirmation and it's the opposite of rational, critical thinking.
It was less than 20 minutes! It started at about 4:12 based on the audio from the neighbors camera, and he was driving away by 4:20! It’s insane.
@@lazurm I think Terri is right. What makes you think she’s wrong?
Gos bless this young woman! I’m glad She survived to talk about it.
Yes ! Exactly ! Everyone is focusing on how she was in shock and didn’t call quickly. She did a great job by getting a description of the suspect which we may not have had
She may of thought he was suppose to be their. Possible friends of Kaylee and Maddie. I lived in a environment like this in my twenties with various roommates. I don't know everyone they knew. She may not of known if he was a intruder or suppose to be their. This was the dynamics of the home. Six people all 19-21 were living in this 🏠.
there is only one villian in this scenario: the murderer. full stop. to blame a victim is disgusting.
I am 67 years old and still I think I am making mistakes and wishing I could turn back time. DM is young, her mind is young, she was scared and she didn't know what to do. We all would know how to do things better in hindsight.
Being scared saved her life with not approaching the killer or it would have been 5 deceased.
I had a blind date when I was young and I could tell he was not right, mentally. His eyes were like so scary. Came home quickly. A few hours later at my door someone was pounding. I looked though the peephole and it was him. I was so frightened I froze completely. I went back to bed and fell asleep in about two minutes. I just left my body in fear. should I have called the police, yes. I just froze like a bad dream. Defies logic. But people do odd things when they are that frightened. Give her a major break!
Are you certain that this really happened and it wasn’t just all the drugs you were taking at the time?
I feel sorry for Dylan and hope she receives help, but I understand all sides. Her acts were indeed cowardly.
@@TheLucidSpecter “lol” so funny hahah
Why would you call the cops ? He was just knocking on your door , that's not a crime !
@@TheLucidSpecter The situation was over and she still didn't call the police , she called her friends first !
I lived in a similar house in college. There were some weekends where I was separated from my roommates and I’d stay in my room while they were in another part of the house being loud, partying, yelling, being wild, etc. our doors were never locked. Their friends and my friends were dropping in randomly all the time. I’d see people in the house I never met before cuz we didn’t have all the same friends. I was never “afraid” because that was the norm. She probably had no idea what he did while she was home
Right, totally understandable and make sense, but why did she freeze (what I guess would be) from fear then?
Same! This story is so terrifying because it’s such a relatable college living situation!
Totally not safe behavior. I hope more young adults see the danger in living this way.
She wouldn’t of froze right ? If she wasn’t scared ? Or is she telling the truth about that ? It will all come out?
@@anniezion I haven’t experienced anything like she did, but I *have* experienced doubt/denial in how serious something is. I have also experienced getting a ‘vibe’ off someone.
It would make sense to me if she was initially startled, immediately followed by a sinking gut feeling that this is a ‘bad guy’. She freezes, then locks herself in her room, and spends the next while simultaneously terrified and trying to rationalize the situation. It may have been easier to rationalize based on the fact that he didn’t come at her. But also too scared to come out and check in with everyone else about who he was. 🤷🏼♀️
DM needs to be treated with kindness. The trauma she must be going through breaks my heart.
I LOVE what this lawyer says!! What a kind and well spoken guy.
He's a clown
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@@cave2484 we know. It's drugs and alcohol.
Ambien or melatonin and alcohol at tha hour. You ain't waking up for nothing but your bladder.
Drugs and dental.
If I was Dylan I would have been texting the girls upstairs saying who was that guy???? Im hiding in my room is he gone??
Exactly.
Maybe she did. We don't know and we aren't owed that information. The only one that will be convicting the murderer is the jury ,not the general public or social media.
Case seems to get stranger and stranger
Yes, I agree.
Why?
Thank you for protecting Dylan's side. Poor girl must be going through so much right now, i can't even imagine.
I hope she realizes the consequences of her inaction. She should be charged with accessory to murder
Still cant believe she Waited that long, I think she could have saved at least 1 person if she called Immediately
I Agee blows mind she didn’t call for help
@@deemen7132 so you made a calculation too? Excellent.
Someone may of lived
i AGREE WITH THE ATTORNEY SAYING IT TOOK TOO LONG TO CALL THE POLICE. AND THE FACT THAT SHE WAS SO TERRIFIED, SHOULD HAVE ALERTED HER TO CALL THEM SOONER.
Let me understand, she's peeing her pants in fear, is unable to hit 9 1 1, silent the phone, hit 9 1 1 again and again whisper the address under a pillow...hmmmm.
This girl has no stranger danger instincts?
This case is so tragic, my heart goes out to the family of the victims.
Just as evil as it is tragic
There is only one filthy person we have to blame…
It's all a lie in my eye.
Yes you got that right
It shows her age that she actually thought locking her door would keep her safe ..anything could of happened !! Stay strong Dylan 🙏🏻
If I want to be safe, I lock myself up and call for help.
Mr. Gray is absolutely correct. Everyone needs to remember she's also a victim in this case. No one knows how they would really react in this type of scenario. People can say all they want "I wouldn't have waited to call 911" or "I would have called the police right away" but when it comes down to it, no one knows how they would react unless they were put through it. Give Dylan a chance to process and heal because she has a long road ahead of her. The survivors guilt she's probably already suffering is unimaginable - this poor girl needs support and love.
I know exactly what I would have done.
How is DM a victim? Please tell me’ make me understand. He spared her life. She should count her lucky stars ⭐️. He never layed a finger on her. She could have possibly saved a couple of the students if she’d dialed 911 immediately. So’ I don’t feel she’s a victim. How’d she freeze? She didn’t know murders were happening.
@@sandycarroll7021 EXACTLY! Thank you ! He didn’t shoot them he stabbed them ! Your telling me they didn’t make one sound ? They suffered!!
You obviously have no common sense.
Me personally! I’m not staying in any house after seeing a weird person in my house , hearing my roommates dog barking crazy. Hearing crying NOOOOO ! I’m calling the police ! I’m not going to sleep. Not saying beat the girl down and blame her ! Keep in mind he’s been stalking them for a few months ! Your telling me he ain’t know how many people lived in that home ? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Don’t say she is a victim. She is beyond LUCKY.
When Dylan heard noises and then saw the intruder in the house. She did not know that 4 of her roommates were murdered. She froze, she was beyond scared. I bet she was up and curled up in a corner, not sure what will happen next. She was probably even in a catatonic phase. She does not need to live her life having people accuse her of waiting so long to call 911. Her life will never be the same, her youth of being able to party and have fun with her friends, will never be the same and not even sure if she will allow herself that luxury. Why? Because people are blaming her for waiting so long or that she was involved. She is most likely suffering from PTSD. She needs our love and support and just stop with the, why she waited so long. Sadly, even if she called 911 right away, it would not have saved the 4 victims.
If she didn't know they were murdered why would she freeze? These concepts are at odds.
We really don't know the "even if she called 911 right away it would not have saved the 4 victims" But what we must remember she is a victim too and also we do not have the full story yet. She might have been locked in to that room, feared for her life, not knowing if the man was still there and perhaps with no phone available. What puzzles me more though, is the day after, why not call the cops right away, when there is blood everywhere.But maybe she/they did not enter the rooms fully, were the victims were and perhaps dark in the rooms, so when not getting any response from either of them, calling a friend to come over..
EIGHT HOURS !!! I am not blaming her but I am not defending her either. Whoever is defending her blindly doesn't really want the truth. Wait till the information is revealed.
@@anniezion she had a phone she was on tik tok at 4.13 am so yes she had a phone and saying she was froze doesn’t add up either . So it will all come out. Things don’t add up. Everyone is entitled to there opinion and you evidently haven’t read the report .
@@anniezion I agree she is a victim too. I think she called her friends from her room (my guess). She was so scared that she wanted their support before coming out of the room and to check on everyone together. She was too scared to do it by herself and with the other roommate. Why is noone questioning her? When she woke up amd went upstairs, what did she see? Like you said, we do not know the full story. What the 2 girls went through, will stay with them for the rest of their lives. It will be a nightmare and they will need the love and support and lots of therapy.
I hope she can heal from this, the survivors guilt, the hate from the people, the trauma and loss of her friends. I'm glad she's alive, she probably saved her life by doing what she did.
Absolutely, this roommate needs to be given compassion for the traumatic experience she went through. Also, she did give valuable information for the affidavit.
She should apologize
She’s the reason her roommates didn’t survive. I blame her as much as Brian
@@garlicknot887 please shutup the roommates were probably already dead. Their wounds were horrible
@@user-jg3lb6iy7x u were there ?
@@garlicknot887 were you? sounds like you were. Seeing as you know such details maybe you were Bryan's accomplice?
I can only imagine what Dylan went through as a witness!!! Im 41 years old and Im very aware Im a person that tends to freeze. A bad injury along blood makes me faint. I have lived a couple traumatic experiences and each time I Frozen for real for a few hours. When my father past away, I was in a different city for work reasons, my sister called me around 10 PM to inform my about my fathers passing, I actually went to bed and till next morning around 7am it hit me and started to react and make arrangments to travel back to where my family was!!! I can not even understand to the day how was I even able to sleep but I did!!!! ... If I ever have to be in charge of kids I always ask and inform them, please dont bleed because if you do I am going to faint AND wont be able to help you!!! It has happened more than once!!! for just over hearing the description of a nose job!!!!
I feel Dylan so much! As everyone affected by this tragic event, God bless everyones hearts!
Big Kudos for the Moscow PD
Why would anyone expect DM to have called 911 immediately???? She didn't know he was the killer. She didn't know that her roommates were dead! She was most likely in shock that someone saw her peeping out her bedroom door, and mostly embarrassed he might of seen her. Her greatest shock was after she realized that the person, she saw was the killer. That's when the real terror set in.
These poor kids and their families. Prayers to all families .
🙏 prayers yes. I hate these internet people placing blame. I’m sure she didn’t know they had literally been unalived. They need to get a life
Honestly this is one of those cases that is infuriating. He took these kids lives and didn't even know them. He robbed them and their families of their future. If he's found guilty they should make an example of him and expedite the death penalty the same way they did for the Oklahoma city bomber.
Why is it so hard for people to realize she didn’t call the cops because she had no idea 4 of her friends had just been murdered.
So how is she just going to "freeze"?
@@LisaPeterson227 too bad you live under a rock and never had to experience a terrifying event. This happens many times to trauma victims and this time it saved this young woman's life. Please educate yourself.
@@fenderblue9485 So it's, she didn't call the cops because she didn't think there was something wrong while simultaneously being terrified enough to Freeze and lock herself in her room ...makes sense
Killer walks by Suspect -> Suspect “waits” 8 hours to call authorities -> Killer questions police if another person has been caught when placed under arrest.
Sounds like this girl could possibly be affiliated with the killer in my opinion.
Absolutely agree with Mr Gray! She is a hero for describing how the killer looked and what he was wearing. That's what I thought. And what she heard, chilling details otherwise would probably never came out. Trough to her we come so close to the truth. She should know she didn't do anything wrong, she is unharmed, that's a miracle we al should be so proud of her she survived this and giving this details that are so important to the investigation.
Also some information was released that one of the roommates had severe PTSD. I think that also played into her response.
If one thing is going to go wrong in this trial its that the crime scene was completely compromised bc she called friends before police. I am trying to give the benefit of the doubt but most of this is completely unbelievable. The defense can claim the sheath was planted as a cover up, touch dna can be harder to convict. I just hope that her decisions do not prevent justice bc if her trauma is real it will be even worse if she is the reason he gets away with it.
@@marakahl I agree 100%
@@marakahl you do not know all the details. The killer left his DNA at the crime site along with other criminal behaviors. Her TRAUMA is real and hands off she was there to give a brief description of the killer. It will not be her fault even if he walks. I'm sure she called her friend for comfort and support to move forward. Compromised means she tampered with evidence, she checked on her roommates and found the deceased. Even the reporters verified the police found the sheath, only killers DNA was on the sheath.
I am so glad to hear him say there could be a reasonable answer to why DM reacted as she did. It has been disheartening to see how badly people have been beating her down in the comments. Kaylee's dad has defended her. Kaylee's sister said people need to stop judging her based on the affidavit. Now the lawyer? Anyone who still wants to beat her down, really just wants to troll, because there's barely any part of her story in that affidavit.
No one is beating her down it seems to me that people are asking questions which they have a right to do... and I don't think the father or the sister are going to go on an interview and talk about her so I wouldn't put too much into that
@@junebuchholtz287 They both made it a point to say that in their interviews. And no, we don't have the right to ask, since we still don't have all the info. So who are you and others asking for an answer right now, when they don't have them either?
Waited 8 hours to call 911 if she was sooo scared and was just on tic toc she had a phone to call the authorities but instead she took a nap and waited a whole work day to call the police??? Gtfoh
@@junebuchholtz287 OH YET too many folks HAVE been being EXTREMELY JUDGMENTAL and Righteous regarding she did not act properly in some way!! Hopefully this coverage will SHUT THE BS DOWN. WE have NO IDEA.
Defense Lawyers, its their job to question events such as this. The main reasons I suspect are to 1) cast a reasonable doubt into the case. 2) deflect from the defendant/perpetrator.
Keep in mind that criminal cases have to be much more rock solid than civil cases, especially when it involves capital murder(s).
WHO SLEEPS THROUGH 4 VIOLENT MURDERS AND THEN WAITS 8 HOURS TO PHONE POLICE ABOUT THEIR DEAD UNCONSCIOUS ROOMMATES ?
Who said she went back to sleep?
This girl may have to take the stand at some point, prayers to her
@Thomas Heard she had drugs that's why was afraid of calling the police. Didn't care about the flatmates.
Realistically she was just minding her own business. Sometimes it’s best not to get involved in other peoples problems
@@steverockwell5074 Because she's a suspect. If she wanted those people dead then waiting for them to die and pretending to sleep was her best option.
@Thomas of course
@@Dr.DisrespectFan918 right
Why would she be in "frozen shock" if she thought he was going out for a smoke? Makes no sense.
Being kind would have been dialing 911.
🙏🏽Praying for justice and peace for these families🙏🏽
There's a lot on him but what about if drugs played any role here? What about DMs cell activity? Did DM make her story up to show her inconsistency that would be revealed as far as her being aware of his presence? What about how long the crime scene was able to get manipulated. A knife sheath on the bed... That's awfully convenient. Could it have been placed there? The defense is going to go after DM and how long this crime scene was left unattended. If they sold drugs out of this house and Bryan ever bought, that's going to be huge as well
Just stop, how pathetic blaming a victim!
@@gojobuddy didn't blame I asked questions about the case, we are all able to do that, if you don't like it be mature and don't comment. Simple
You hear a roommate crying and a few bumps (nothing else), you see someone walking out calmly. Yeah, he spooked you at 4am but you would rationalise, maybe a roommate brought a guy home and she didn't want him to leave, you'll ask her in the morning. Morning comes and no one else is up, you'd probably think, wow, they must have had a great night and are sleeping in. It gets longer and still no one is up, you think about checking on them but don't want them to be mad at you or whatever. Eventually you get worried and that's when you find everyone.
Now, at the moment we don't know what happened in DMs mind but can you honestly say that this scenario isn't a possibility. We'll find out when she testifies
Exactly
@@billyyank5807 ok, didn't know that, so forget the bit after you don't want them to be mad at you 🤷. Focus on the last paragraph if that helps
I really think she convinced herself she was overthinking it and called a friend to come check. Maybe a male or someone armed to some extent(?) like she felt sketched out enough to not want to leave her secure room but not sketched out enough to warrant calling police.
@@billyyank5807 interesting
Makes sense to me, more than these wild theories of she froze for 8 hours or "she must have been in on it!"
Her not calling immediately changed nothing about the outcome.....fear...panic...denial...who knows why she didn't. This isn't the first time this has happened in similar situations.....the mind is a funny thing sometimes 👌
Except for the fact that maybe, just maybe, one of the victims may have been able to survive had they gotten medical attention right away instead of bleeding out for 8 hours…
@@caidenfarrington9655 based on everything the coroner was saying (that she shouldn’t have been saying publicly but that’s a whole other issue…) they all had injuries in which they were deceased by the time he left their rooms. I don’t think any of them we still alive but bleeding out.
@@caidenfarrington9655 or just maybe the killer would have made it 5 deceased.
@@caidenfarrington9655that's simply not the truth.
Just because she saw him doesn’t mean she knew he just killed 4 people.
No, but reportedly the sight of this guy terrified her. So, I think it is valid to ask if an intruder in your home terrified you, would you simply lock your door and go to sleep ?
@John G if I lived in a college party house with lots of random guests coming and going(pretty typical) and rationalized it away as that..then yes.
@ John G if there was an intruder in my home they’d be dead or seriously injured but that’s different because I don’t live with a bunch of roommates. She could have been terrified because she was expecting to see someone she knows but it was some random person. Maybe she thought one of her friends invited this person over and she locked her door because she was going to sleep and there’s random people in the house that she doesn’t know.
Remember this is the initial arrest warrant affidavit.
More to come.
So thankful shes alive!!!♡
Why why why 8 hrs ?????
The public won’t ask her questions but you bet your life on this the defendant attorney will ask her questions so I pray she’s strong enough to take the stand
Why should she be afraid of that? She did nothing wrong and that will be her chance to tell how it really was (was probably too drunk to react, house was open, lot of strangers partying their all the time etc etc)
It's easy to say what you think you would do in this situation. The reality is you have no idea what you would do. They say "fight or flight", it's actually "fight, freeze, or flight".
I would definetaly check on my crying roommate first and then call the cops. Is being decent human being too much to ask for?
I know exactly what I would do. You people act like you and everyone else was born yesterday in a plastic bubble.
@Sarah It's speculation because there's nothing to prove otherwise. She didn't know her roommates were being murdered, so what stopped her from checking out the crying she heard?
@Eudaimonia Of course you would, after 5 hours of heavy drinking and partying
Name ONE movie scene or ONE reality TV episode where the terrified individual WAITED 8 hours to contact 911 and referring to blood splattered roommates as unconscious.
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None can blame this girls mind it’s scary to think about, if your reading this it’s not your fault ❤️🙏
Exactly nobody was in her shoes that night so they can’t talk !
I have no doubts about the innocence of the roommates. I just didn't understand why she said she froze when she saw Bryan since she wasn't aware of the murders yet but you explain it in this post.
Saw this on comment on 10 to life but it’s known that shock can last for days, sometimes multiple weeks. Please leave this girl alone .. she’s going through a lot more than most of us can imagine 🙏🏼
And I know this first hand nothing changes anything your saying everyone is entitled to their own opinion just like you.
@@robingriffith277 Wow you clearly have no empathy. If you didn't like her opinion than just scroll along!
Dylan could not save her roommates. Stop going after her! We don't have ALL the info LE does. Prayers for Dylan. I can't imagine how scared she was.
So scared she locked the door and went back to sleep
Yes she could have possibly you dont know that. She literally let them bleed out for 8 hrs after hearing them scream.
@@madzmadeit where did you get they screamed
Its in the report she heard one of them screaming and them heard a man say im trying to help you
Yes ppl can be froze or panic but not as long as her 8h?
I'm curious to know if she texted any of them after she went in her room to see what was up with that guy she saw.
No. It was a party house and she was heavily intoxicated (as were the victims)
People keep saying 8 hours before calling 911 about the murder... but did she even know the murders had happened? All she saw was a stranger in the house. There's no indication that she knew there were murders.
Why is the family of a survivor getting an attorney? I think it's an expense they don't need.
This poor girl. She is going to suffer from survivor's guilt probably forever, plus the added issue of not calling 911 right away. She will carry this burden and it will be hard. I hope she is getting counseling and hope people leave her alone.
Glad the father isn’t blaming the roommate. She is probably feeling horrible. Traumatic experience. Glad she could give a description. She’s lucky to be alive. Why 8 hours - maybe both people went to sleep?
She Still has to get on the stand under Oath and be Questioned by Bryan's attorneys!
Her description wasn't that good ! His eyebrows aren't that bushy and 5ft10 or taller is pretty vague , he looks 6ft2 , he towers over most of the guards !
Maybe family of victims have Norvegian sindrom? Maybe killer/s have this is pocket..?!?
@DontBanOllie That is what his drivers license says and that could be from years ago . it's not like it's his medical records that get updated every couple of months !
8 hours to call for help? No one waits 8 hours to call for help in any type of emergency? An automobile accident? No. You’re at a party and someone’s in distress and needs help you call 911? Do wait eight hours? No.
Thank you so much for defending that surviving victim. I'm so glad that was done.
Idc what anyone says. The fact she saw the guy after the fact and never called the cops will never sit right with me. Never.
Lawyer says "we need to ask questions" about the roommate but the police have already asked those questions, interrogated and investigated the roommate and stated that she is a witness and not involved so no the public doesn't need to ask questions or harass her. The answers will come out in the trial. We need her to feel safe enough and strong enough to testify.
Yes, you are right . LE ,FBI have already questioned her and cleared her . They have so much more information then the general public.
Very well said, 👍
When is this lawyer going to apologize for calling the lead detective a rookie??
So ridiculous how they are approaching this poor young lady, especially the lawyer suggesting she had knowledge of a crime when she closed the door.
The 8-hour gap is VERY easy to explain...
She comes home (maybe a little buzzed or a lot buzzed).
She lives in a varsity house that is like a railway station most days of the week, more so on weekends
She just heard GrubHub deliver food to your pals, You heard some light crying and what sounded like your noisy roommates being noisy with their dog... AGAIN.
She hears some words that don't quite make sense at the time you hear them, but no one is screaming.
She opens the door with NO KNOWLEDGE of any crime or any serious problem, see some weirdo (maybe not the first time a strange dude has left the house at a strange time)
You fall asleep and wake up 8-hours later on what was a SUNDAY MORNING. Why would she need to wake up any earlier of to going to sleep at 430am?
Man, I have teenagers that don't party all night and still get out of bed at midday on a Sunday.
Let see what the rest of her statement says when she gets to trial.
Your story is missing the part when she said in her statement that she froze..if just "seeing a weirdo" and not the first time perhaps, why would she say she froze and locked the door?
@@anniezion Has your sixth sense never kicked in & alerted you to something but you couldn't quite figure out why.
ok explain this.... She heard her friend crying BEFORE---> BEFORE!!! she saw someone yet didn't go check to see if her friend was hurt? drunk, drugged? You'd still check on your friend!!!! your HOUSEMATE IS CRYING!!!!!!
Sure. But the story here is more of "she looked out, saw some weirdo and went back to her room, as the house being like a "railway station" people coming and going, and the whole thing not being a big deal to her (DM) Then the freezing does not fit, imo.
@@anniezion The other thing I wonder is how she wouldn’t have seen the guy covered in blood with a knife in his hand also covered in blood. Police said the crime scene was pretty gruesome so it seems logical that the murderer would have that all over him, or at the very least have a blood covered weapon. And it’s not as if the knife could’ve been sheathed and hid from her view because the sheath to the knife was left behind at the scene. I guess it depends on lighting and how visible he actually was to here and how many details she could actually see. But it’s very strange and I can’t figure out how she couldn’t have seen blood anywhere on him.
Casia mentioned that the young roommate saw BK in the house. I knew she had a description somewhat, but didn't realize she actually could clearly identify him and did. So I suppose now that he's been positively identified by the roommate, that's a great piece of information to move forward with.
That poor girl. She must’ve freaked the f out. Poor thing This whole case is so creepy and sad.
She was Frozen...scared! Why not call 911. She heard her friend crying BEFORE---> BEFORE!!! she saw someone yet didn't go check to see if her friend was hurt? What up Dylan?
Thank you for backing up Dylan... I wish people would leave her alone! ignorant people act like like they KNOW EVERYTHING!!!
That poor girl will be traumatized for the rest of her life. I know if it were I, I would have gone into my room and hid too. I would wonder if he were coming back, listening at the door, just so many terrifying thoughts going through her head. People need to leave this girl alone!
Going out for a smoke? Come on!
Sorry but she said she froze in fear so she knew something was wrong. I’m not blaming her and yes she provided info but it’s only normal for people to ask questions.
This is a normal trama response.
@@ashleyn8946 not for everybody Ashley
Agree with you about attny saying going out for a smoke. Give me a break. I just think there is so much more information to come so I'm saving any judgements about that but the smoke... she knew he wasn't supposed to be there.
I’m seeing 90% support for Dylan online and I’m seeing people address the 10% of people not supporting her. Why don’t they ever talk about how much support is given?
Celebrities do this. They get 99% love, then talk about the 1% of rude comments they get on Twitter or something. It’s a strange way to talk about things.
Cause this little poll you took is irrelevant to real life.
I saw that the 'unconscious' roommate referred to in the phone call was one of the surviving girls who fainted upon discovering what happened. That makes alot more sense.
Yes!
Fainting is very short lived. Seconds, at most couple minutes. Not hours! That's coma! Catatonic state is the only way this will make a lick of sense. One would be hospitalize in that case.
@@merrydaye4763 pay attention Merry.... they woke up and midday and found their murdered roommates. One fainted at that point whilst calling 911
@@merrydaye4763 oh my God. You are ridiculous if you think I meant hours.
I pray she gets help and continuous support. I'm sure she has been traumatized to the fullest.💔
This BS makes no sense and you know it
The male voice could have been the boyfriend talking to his girlfriend that he was going to try to help her after they were both attacked, especially knowing crying was heard. So sad but its what first came to mind.
It seems so important to find out if the witness saw whether the offender had to unlock the glass door to leave, because if not, then it is possible it had been left unlocked and that is where he made entry. It seems the easiest access point. Also imagining he seemed focused on leaving that way and you would think he would leave the way he entered, as it would be known already to be open access.
This attorney should do his work instead of constantly seeking the limelight and his 15 minutes of fame.
why do these families keep talking. They are going to botch this case
She is blessed to be alive & so is the other roomate. The public needs to be thankful and stop their unkindness & critical remarks. Our prayers for these girls and all the victims family.
THEY NEED TO TEST HER AND SEE IF SHE HAD DRUGS IN HER SYSTEM AND MAYBE THATS WHY SHE TOOK SO LONG TO CALL POLICE. 8 HRS IS WAY TO LONG.
People should have cameras in their homes, not matter how safe is the neighborhood.
He walked in didn’t need to break in , the sliding door 🚪 was left unlocked !!!
I'm so sick of hearing all this "just stop asking questions about Dylan". The questions are relevant. It's weird that she waited that long and you all know it.
I have to disagree that she had a bone chilling encounter with the killer. Because at the time she didn't know he was a killer. Had she sensed something wrong she would have text her friends or called them to see f they were ok that night . Kids are glued to their phones these days. She was either half asleep and didn't think anything of it and went back to sleep, or she was drunk or under the influence and then also went to sleep .Not until the next day did she realize something was wrong. I doubt she was frozen in fear.
i thought no one was supposed to talk to the media?
I hope that the reason they find for not calling 911 blows up in their face! It could be for example she could have just thought it was her friends contact for any reason since so many people came thru there. He spooked her out because it was also a shock when she opened the door of course. But she could have finally just gone to bed after locking her door and everything was quiet after that. There’s nothing wrong here! I’m so angry people are focusing on that! SHUT UP AND WAIT!! That girl is innocent no matter what! SHE LOST 4 FRIENDS IN JUST A FEW MINUTES! Just shut up about her! I wish I could wrap her in my arms and give her a huge hug! Makes me cry for her! 😥
She was on MDMA
Another drama queen... the girl has problems with drugs and alcohol hopefully her mother and father will now get her some help she should not have been in that house at all
@@junebuchholtz287What’re you even saying. She was going to college there, of course she should be there
I must be missing something. She didn't know anybody was stabbed to death yet she sees a man in her house why wouldn't she call the police? Why are you so frightened? You don't know he stabbed people
You’re correct something isn’t correct. Even a child would know to run for help and ask immediately.
It was night. She didn't expect to see a man at that point so it scared her. He walked out without showing her any aggression or evilness, so she probably thought she was overreacting about one of her roommate's friends, so she decided to get sleep and talk to them in the morning about him.
They continue to make excuses for her behavior. But that is all it is...excuses. She knew something was wrong bc she locked her door with her phone but didn't call the police or check on friends. So lets continue to make excuses bc that's what we do ..we make excuses for horrible behavior. Pathetic.
@@AFloridaSon i love how people make up nice narratives to fit their story bc GOD forbid we actually look at what it is.
People are assuming Dylan knew the 4 were dead. She may not have. She may have locked herself in her room and was afraid to come out.
What is she - 3??
Little kids have called 911 for help when adults are in distress. It’s a No-Brainer and I’ll criticize if I please.
@@valleygirl2530 Do you call the police when you don't know there's a crime, just in case one has been committed?
@@valleygirl2530 If my roommate was crying and I saw a stranger in the house, I would find out wtf was going on with my friend. I do not trust anyone. I could not sleep knowing someone was upset. I think Xana could have survived if 911 was called immediately. Obviously, Xana was alive after the attack.
Yes valley girl my grandson at three years old dial 911 to save his grandmothers life, so yes it is something that is taught my grandson is known around the world for his heroic actions. His name is Jaden JADEN Bolli you can look it up. For a 20 year old not to call the police is just unheard of. She heard whining, she heard whimpering. She heard Kaylee say someone’s in here she heard the dog bark. She heard Ethan fighting an attacker, and then Saul a mass man in the home that would not seem to be normal even on a party day, so I think her whole story is astronomical
4 people being stabbed to death a foot away!!!! And she failed to call 911!!!! She and he had to know each other!! IT will come out and she should be charged if guilty!!! A dude a block and a half got stabbed by my house i heard him screaming!!!!
I agree that we shouldn't jump to conclusions regarding the roommate.. but.. 8 hours later?
I wonder what the parents think of their kids living in a party house.
The most important thing is to have the right person….
I know her dad is heartbroken and just wants justice for his daughter but it wasn't only him and his family who lost someone. There are 3 other families involved who are equally heartbroken and want justice too. He's been really vocal, rightfully so, but he's also said on national news that he went and questioned people during the investigation prior to the suspect being apprehended. Now he's been on almost every news channel and talking about things the victims' families aren't usually heard speaking publicly about until theres been a conviction and their giving their victim impact statement to the court. All im saying is I just really hope nothing hurts the case. Now, his attorney is speaking to media about the case, the evidence, and the defendant. I pray for his family and his daughter as well as the other families and victims. I think of them daily. I just pray nothing causes any problems for the case. I know the last thing anyone would want would be a mistrial for some reason or on a technicality. If anyone will find something for a mistrial, it will be this defense attorney appointed to the case.
It's hard to say this bc of the great loss he's suffered but he needs to take a seat for now. He has been sort of doing too much and even looks like he's gotten a "celebrity makeover." I think is a twisted way he wants to be seen as a cool, hip dad.
I also get strange vibes from the sister. Something has been off about her demeanor.
She's an alleged victim and he is an alleged murderer. Nothing has been a 100% proven. Remember, innocent UNTIL proven guilty despite Popular opinion. Everyone jumps to pass blame now days with all the cameras. How many people have been charged with a crime that didn't commit or a victim was later found to be an accomplice? I'm not saying he is innocent or she is guilty. I'm saying there is lack of evidence shown so far.
Praise the people who had Cameras to show the route taken!!
Something just doesn’t make sense, why wait 8 hrs to call 911?
The roommate would have no idea there had been murders when she saw him pass her room-she wouldn’t have had a clue why he was there-who would have ever suspected what happened?
There shouldn't be any assumptions about DM at this point. She could be lying and/or dereliction of moral duty, and lives could have been saved. Or she's a truthful witness, went into shock, and her lack of action wouldn't have even made a difference.
"who know's?" is not a sufficient answer for not checking on your roommates after hearing everything she heard. It's just not. She deserves no praise, she owes everyone especially the families answers. If she was so scared, how did she go to bed for 8 hours and proceed not to call the authorities until noon? makes literally no sense, "who know's?" is not a sufficient justification for what she didn't do. Inexcusable. Out of all the possible things you can do in that situation, she easily did the most unbelievable. Going into her room, apparently so scared she didn't text or call anyone, instead she went to sleep for 8 whole hours? She owes answers, simple as that.
Oh be quiet. It doesn't matter what you think.
Exactly, and then in the morning, doesn’t call 911. But, calls friends --Unbelievable!
@@mygirldarby sure it does. She is a shtty roomate
"To expect normal behavior out of an abnormal person to me really doesn't make much sense." Amen. People need to stop looking for motive and closure. DNA is sufficient. So just lock him up in prison and throw away the key already. Next story.
Well, motive is crucial to understanding, but sometimes people kill just to see how it feels. After 50 years of serial killers becoming a mainstream topic, and attracting a fandom, they may desire to play the games of their heroes. Mental health issues are clearly a factor. When you're isolated and detached, it's easy to lose touch with yours, and others humanity. The Internet is a perfect example of that. People become avatars for any negative impression others want to place on them. That's less likely to happen if they are in your presence.
She probably didn’t know they had been murdered so lay off of her
Oh I also wish people would stop referring to him as “gentleman”!!! He’s no gentleman, he’s a monster
“8 hours is long if your roommates were just sad slashes to death” isn’t it better to ask “didn’t call police for 8 hours after you saw a guy walking trough your house” because that’s basically all she saw.
EXACTLY - it's a disgusting comment he made.
I thought the very sight of this guy "walking through her house" terrified her ?