In this video Guitar World's gear editor Paul Riario demonstrates the features of the Traynor DarkHorse head and cabinet. For more gear reviews and videos check out guitarworld.com
Just a small fact.. The traynor darkhorse has a baxandall type tonstack, Either early in circuit (US), late in circuit (UK), or complete bypassed (pure). Other traynors such as the YCV40 and 50 has a fender/marshall type tonestack where the pots interacts more. The gain pot is in front of the tonestack on the darkhorse, whereas on the YCV40 and blackface fenders the volume/gain pot is located after the tonestack. The YCV40 is a slightly altered blackface fender and the darkhorse is like a ycm3
A 15-watt tube amp is loud enough for rehearsals and small to medium-size gigs. Everything else being equal, a 50-watt, or even a 100-watt, tube amp is only a little bit louder than a 15-watt tube amp. And you would need at least a 50-watt solid-state amp to even get close to the output of a 15-watt tube amp. What is even more mind-boggling until you truly understand watts versus volume is the fact that a 1-watt tube amp is 1/4 as loud as a 100-watt amp! Even a 1-watt tube amp is quite loud.
Definitely! I have a 1 watt Marshall JCM800 stack, and cant play it past 7 without the neoghbors complaining. I use the .1w setting, and its more than loud enough.
Hey, I always like your demos. I don't make a big deal about how a person plays when they're simply showing off the features of a guitar or amp, but have to say your playing is quite good and helps in hearing a lot more of the various settings and styles. Good work.
TRAYNOR = BULLETPROOF..... I have owned Traynor since mid 70's. A TS15 was my first amp.... I still have it and it still works... My P.A. is Yorkville Sound (they make Traynor amps).. 18 channel powered board and speakers.. 12 years and has NEVER let me down. Any of it.
I have this setup and Paul did a good job showing the clean side, however it can get quite dirty once you turn the gain past 2 or 3 o'clock. In the Brit mode it get's very hard-rockish (think AC/DC or Zep). Very sensitive to player inputs. I quickly got rid of my vox ac4tv after I got this. It's almost as loud as my 50 watt tube combo.
At first the tone seemed really good...but then I noticed there's no low-end at all. Having listened since to a bunch of modern Traynor amps...this seems to be common to all Yorkville-era Taynors
Look up "L&M Donna Grantis Traynor Dark Horse" Recorded with a camera I think, but you can here how great the amp is with her playing style (prince's guitarist).
i just bought this amp yesterday, and holy fuck is it awesome. I would say that if you are going to play decent sized venues, get the 40watt version of the head. or just up the celestion speaker in the 1x12 cab to a 75w
@mesa401 obviously he can't. companies pay him to review gear. he's a marketing tool pretty much. he gives decent demos so it's up to u to decide the flaws. thats pretty much with all the companies who market on youtube.
I’m thinking of getting me one of these to sit on the top of my fender super reverb on a live gig, as a back up amp ( the super reverb has issues, and sputters now and then 🙂) how does it handle on a club stage, as in keeping up with a live band with a loud drummer and bassist?
@Rebackka666 Mesa Boogie Duel Rectifier Blackstar Series One Any Engl Peavey 6505+ Marshall DSL or TSL But those are all pretty expensive, but they're some of the best:)
a 100w will sound a lot more powerful and thick than a 15w though. but in terms of volume, 50w to 100w is only about a 3 or 4 db difference. of course it also depends on the amp and the speakers because watts don't = volume. but i've played gigs unmic'd with a 15w amp and did fine. however, i would still prefer a 50 or 100 as my lead tone is thicker and clearer with them and a little more volume or at least perceived volume.. depends on what you're doing.
Please do not do that. Play clean sounds in demos with your guitar volume at 10 so we hear it at full output, not the sound of a dirty tone with the guitar volume at 2 or 3. It is a decent trick for playing live if you want, but it goes not give a true representation of the amp.s clean channel. I have one of these and it sounds awesome...this vid does not sound like my Dark Horse at all. I encourage people to try one for yourself. I am a guitar teacher and this amp is really good in real life.
sounds like a $200.00 amp to me, lacking a EFX loop…… no modulation poop
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Darkhorse looks plain ugly and epic fail at the Guitar World audio crew capturing the voice of Riario when he was trying to indicate to which mode he sets the amp to..
Just a small fact.. The traynor darkhorse has a baxandall type tonstack, Either early in circuit (US), late in circuit (UK), or complete bypassed (pure). Other traynors such as the YCV40 and 50 has a fender/marshall type tonestack where the pots interacts more. The gain pot is in front of the tonestack on the darkhorse, whereas on the YCV40 and blackface fenders the volume/gain pot is located after the tonestack. The YCV40 is a slightly altered blackface fender and the darkhorse is like a ycm3
A 15-watt tube amp is loud enough for rehearsals and small to medium-size gigs.
Everything else being equal, a 50-watt, or even a 100-watt, tube amp is only a little bit louder than a 15-watt tube amp.
And you would need at least a 50-watt solid-state amp to even get close to the output of a 15-watt tube amp.
What is even more mind-boggling until you truly understand watts versus volume is the fact that a 1-watt tube amp is 1/4 as loud as a 100-watt amp! Even a 1-watt tube amp is quite loud.
Definitely! I have a 1 watt Marshall JCM800 stack, and cant play it past 7 without the neoghbors complaining. I use the .1w setting, and its more than loud enough.
Middle position is Canadian mode, but, being Canadian, we're too modest to call it that ;>)
I live 1/2 mile down the road from the US Traynor warehouse. Their stuff is outstanding.
Lucky dog
Hey, I always like your demos. I don't make a big deal about how a person plays when they're simply showing off the features of a guitar or amp, but have to say your playing is quite good and helps in hearing a lot more of the various settings and styles. Good work.
Traynor is an underrated company
TRAYNOR = BULLETPROOF..... I have owned Traynor since mid 70's. A TS15 was my first amp.... I still have it and it still works... My P.A. is Yorkville Sound (they make Traynor amps).. 18 channel powered board and speakers.. 12 years and has NEVER let me down. Any of it.
@Moodyz3 , I paid $499 Canadian for the head and $299 for the cab. The head has gone up, and is now $515 Can. I love this amp.
I have this setup and Paul did a good job showing the clean side, however it can get quite dirty once you turn the gain past 2 or 3 o'clock. In the Brit mode it get's very hard-rockish (think AC/DC or Zep). Very sensitive to player inputs. I quickly got rid of my vox ac4tv after I got this. It's almost as loud as my 50 watt tube combo.
Would really like to hear this dude in a live band situation. Nice style!
We Canadians are just awesome like that ^^
At first the tone seemed really good...but then I noticed there's no low-end at all. Having listened since to a bunch of modern Traynor amps...this seems to be common to all Yorkville-era Taynors
The old ones have plenty of bass. We have a yvm-1 voicemaster which was their PA amp. Killer rock tone that sounds like a Hiwatt when turned up.
Ah ok, halfway in you started to play it with your guitar volume at 10. Now it sounds like my own Dark Horse. Much better :-)
I love Traynor amps. I got the DG30D amp paired with a Boss ML-2 Metal Core pedal.
The tone is just phenomenal! I love the 2 watt tone!
Does anyone know how much do the amp and cabinet cost?
Cool DEMO PAUL!
Look up "L&M Donna Grantis Traynor Dark Horse" Recorded with a camera I think, but you can here how great the amp is with her playing style (prince's guitarist).
I've been needing a new practice amp...The JMP 50 is way too loud for the apartment...Looks like I'm getting a Dark Horse!
@Blizzard56k I think he was referring to the attenuation
@TDWPbassistAILD A 15W tube amp is plenty loud for a gig. 15W solid state amps, in comparison, are good primarily for solo practice.
Amp is so awesome, but need the traynor cab to really shine. Not great with vin 30 cabs, but the greenbacks sound sooo good.
4:52 sick tone!
@CopperKing33 You'd probably need to boost it to get those tones, or get a Orange TT or a Vox Night Train for those higher gain sounds.
Great sounding amp. I like it.
Paul has a new guitar
15 watts is Approxamatly the same volume as a 100 watt solid state
Half of 100W tube.
Most people never turn a tube amp past 4 for small live shows.
The THD started it and is still a beast in the UNI and the BI-VALVE is the best bargain for the bucks, right up there with DR Z's
What's the THD?
PAUL I FCKIN LOVE YOU
@Mrrhockstar Paul Reed Smith DC3, great guitar
Typo alert! - it is Traynor, not Taynor. Pls fix to help people searching for videos on these, and thanks for the review. I'm int'd in this one
i just bought this amp yesterday, and holy fuck is it awesome. I would say that if you are going to play decent sized venues, get the 40watt version of the head. or just up the celestion speaker in the 1x12 cab to a 75w
best of both worlds .....SMART
Damn, great tone.
@mesa401 obviously he can't. companies pay him to review gear. he's a marketing tool pretty much. he gives decent demos so it's up to u to decide the flaws. thats pretty much with all the companies who market on youtube.
Exactly. You're a genius.
You should do a review of the Traynor DH40 Ironhorse :D
I’m thinking of getting me one of these to sit on the top of my fender super reverb on a live gig, as a back up amp ( the super reverb has issues, and sputters now and then 🙂) how does it handle on a club stage, as in keeping up with a live band with a loud drummer and bassist?
@Rebackka666
mesa boogie dual rectifiers are great for metal :)
So are Engl's!
sounds good
"I can tell by the jewel light turning green, so it's cool "
lol
Today we have learned green jewel lights are cool...
I never hear him say anything negative about any product he reviews.
Jewel light dude...
The 'what?' light turns green?
@Rebackka666
mesa boogie dual rectifiers are great for metal :)
Pure mode defeats the EQ Brit/US puts it before or after the preamp, trying the switch with the EQ flat means it's always more or less the same :/
Hey, what kind of picks are you using, is that one of those dunlop ultex sharp picks?
what is a USA falvoured sound? big mac sauce sound?
Is clean all this amp does?
@Rebackka666 Mesa Boogie Duel Rectifier
Blackstar Series One
Any Engl
Peavey 6505+
Marshall DSL or TSL
But those are all pretty expensive, but they're some of the best:)
awesome rock tone, just a bit of delay or reverb and you're set!
More interested in the guitar he's holding ;)
@Blizzard56k
That was not what he said.Look again.
@mattluvsvox921 agreed
Yep...that's crunchy mode. ; )
at 3:26 is anyone else hearing The Rain Song coming through a little?
But can it do br00tz metal?
Used to run a YBA-1 with an HM2 or a TS808...it brootz bruh.
Nunyun Bizz not really good for modern high gain but it can definitely do it
@Eroos94 youve never heard of fuzz.
Looks like a Groove Tubes power amp more then it does an amp head.
footswitch?!?!?....killer little guy thats for sure...better than a night train!?!....
a 100w will sound a lot more powerful and thick than a 15w though. but in terms of volume, 50w to 100w is only about a 3 or 4 db difference. of course it also depends on the amp and the speakers because watts don't = volume. but i've played gigs unmic'd with a 15w amp and did fine. however, i would still prefer a 50 or 100 as my lead tone is thicker and clearer with them and a little more volume or at least perceived volume.. depends on what you're doing.
What guitar is that? Oh I like the amp too ;) haha
I'm Dutch but I love Canada :D Who needs America :D ?
@TheRecluse26 nope.
@ruffles272 i would have to disagree with you but thats just me you're titled to your own opinion.
i just saw that set up on ebay for $300
With that name i thought this was a more high-gain metal type of amp.
the next few 100 posts will flame the first 2 posters...
wohoo i should give out lotto numbers .
Pleasant tone. I found myself listening for amps and then googling how much a played guitar worth
and everything falls into place.
@leddeath80 Do you have any evidence of this or is it just an assumption of yours? Just remember, evidence and opinion is not the same thing.
@mattluvsvox921 even tho it is a prs
i recodnized traynor
darkhorse with emphasis on "dark" that thing sounds like mud
The recording quality is terrible so who can say what the amp sounds like?
@AraGuitar no not at all
Did he say Jew light??
why so many haters here
@Rrracket
The head looks more like a preamp than a head, just saying...
PRS a no name brand? Geeze, I'm not even that big a fan of PRS, but c'mon!
Please do not do that. Play clean sounds in demos with your guitar volume at 10 so we hear it at full output, not the sound of a dirty tone with the guitar volume at 2 or 3. It is a decent trick for playing live if you want, but it goes not give a true representation of the amp.s clean channel. I have one of these and it sounds awesome...this vid does not sound like my Dark Horse at all. I encourage people to try one for yourself. I am a guitar teacher and this amp is really good in real life.
sounds like a $200.00 amp to me, lacking a EFX loop…… no modulation poop
Darkhorse looks plain ugly and epic fail at the Guitar World audio crew capturing the voice of Riario when he was trying to indicate to which mode he sets the amp to..
Does anyone else think this amp sounds like crap?
@MrFucku555 Not a metal amp.
sounds like shit but it looks cool, and that's what matters.
Check out Nikolay karageorglev demo these amps. U Cannot play. U just destroy a great amp
This may be the first Traynor amp I've heard that I haven't liked.
devinjaybee
might be the player...
made in canada.....fail
Sounds like crap.
Good god I wish they had someone who didnt always sound like garbage reviewing this stuff...
"we actually like americans"
Not this Canuck!