Apple released a "white paper"-style video detailing Next Generation CarPlay back in June (2024) as part of WWDC. This video is available on TH-cam. It details how each car manufacture can highly customize CarPlay for each unique vehicle screen layout and size. In addition, controls can be integrated into NGCP to manage everything from AC to lighting to side mirrors to seat position. Apple seems to be moving away from completely controlling the CarPlay experience, and to allowing manufacturer UX designers to customize colors, shapes positions and functions. My hope is that Rivian and other manufacturers will at least consider looking at what CarPlay can do now.
Apple Maps is the only reason I need CarPlay. It integrates with my contacts and calendar events. If somebody texts me an address I can just tap it and go. I can create a “guide” in maps with a list of places I want to visit on a trip, and I can pull them up when I’m ready to navigate. Seamless integration with my phone is huge.
One of the reasons (not the only reason) I decided on a Lightning over a Rivian was CarPlay. It doesn't take very much for auto makers to included CarPlay/Android Auto into their systems so the consumer has a CHOICE of what they want to use. You prefer the Rivian system, that's great. If CarPlay was on your Rivian, at no point do you ever need to launch it and you can carry on as you are today. However for those of us who prefer CarPlay, Rivian has decided to not provide that simple and well loved feature. At this point, if an automaker is not including CarPlay/Android Auto, it is a conscious decision with motives that only suit themselves. Trust me, they are not doing it for your own good as per GM made statements. Hopefully. these companies (ie. Rivian, Tesla, GM...) gain more than they lose because crazy people such as myself that make that as part of their purchasing decision do exist.
I hear you, no one was more pro CarPlay than I was. All of the cars that I've purchased since CarPlay was a thing all have CarPlay and that was a huge reason why. But that was because at the time CarPlay was the best UI you could hope for in a vehicle. That's just no longer the case. Any functionality that I want to use my phone for now like Waze, apple maps, etc, I still have access to because my phone is still there. Only now CarPlay doesn't take over my display with its icon based display.
@@ChargedUpEV-gx2ik Great to hear that you understand that there are crazy people out there that put these kind of things high on the purchasing decision list because you were also one of them. I also do get what you are saying and I can't really speak on Rivian's software because I haven't lived with it on a daily basis. It is very possible that Rivian or some other company can be better than Apple CarPlay. Apple though, is also not sitting still. There are a bunch of videos showing the custom interfaces and features on the new CarPlay that were just announced this past week. One of the key points of CarPlay is familiarity. I could go rent a car, launch CarPlay and everything is exactly where it was in my truck. No fees, no subscriptions to set up. everything just works. Another big thing are developer apps. You might not find any of the current CarPlay apps useful but maybe one day there will be something you like. you get no option to use it, you just get fed what Rivian thinks you should. So in these aspects. No, Rivian infotainment is not better than CarPlay. Again, I am not against car manufactures making their own great systems. Please do. Force me to not want to use CarPlay and it sounds like Rivian is doing a good job at it. But please, just add that one button that allows me to use CarPlay if I want to. Well, it's only please, if you want my money. If you don't need my sale, then carry on.
@@mrnomadic1111 right now you can just stream it from your phone via Bluetooth. It does show the song info and album art. Their next entertainment update is supposed to include a native Apple Music App!
I prefer Waze over Rivian’s navigation BUT I would really like Audible integration. Shouldn’t be too difficult since they’ve already got Alexa integration.
I have my music on my phone. I don't have or want Spotify or another streaming services for music, and I listen to a lot of audiobooks through the Libby App. How will that work without CarPlay? Why not let me have the choice?
Hey, there is still Bluetooth phone integration so you can still listen to anything you want to from your phone. It also shows whatever you’re listening to on the screen and gives you playback controls for it. I still do a lot of phone audio playback depending on what I’m listening to.
I get it. But the argument for CarPlay (for me) isn’t about what’s better… it’s about what’s missing. Apple Music will be a good addition, but I have a few other apps like Audible, Overcast, Zoom / Teams… I’d like just a way to get at the CarPlay interface for them, as they aren’t likely to be a priority for Rivian or those app makers to integrate natively.
Waze is a convenient service but I don’t necessarily need it taking over my gorgeous UI. I can still access it when I want on my phone. Same with any other music app. I still play most music from my phone so there’s no limitation there. The phone bluetooth audio is well integrated into the native UI.
I'd just rather have a lot of those controls not be a part of infotainment system. If I need to turn on the defroster quick because my windshield is fogging up I don't want to take my eyes off the road to do it. Give me physical buttons and knobs for that stuff that I can press by touch. Just need music/navigation there for the most part. I can't stand what all these manufacturers are doing.
@@davidrinaldo7292 fair points. All the things you mentioned wanting to do without taking your eyes apart the road can be done in the Rivian using Alexa
Apple released a "white paper"-style video detailing Next Generation CarPlay back in June (2024) as part of WWDC. This video is available on TH-cam. It details how each car manufacture can highly customize CarPlay for each unique vehicle screen layout and size. In addition, controls can be integrated into NGCP to manage everything from AC to lighting to side mirrors to seat position. Apple seems to be moving away from completely controlling the CarPlay experience, and to allowing manufacturer UX designers to customize colors, shapes positions and functions. My hope is that Rivian and other manufacturers will at least consider looking at what CarPlay can do now.
Apple Maps is the only reason I need CarPlay. It integrates with my contacts and calendar events. If somebody texts me an address I can just tap it and go. I can create a “guide” in maps with a list of places I want to visit on a trip, and I can pull them up when I’m ready to navigate. Seamless integration with my phone is huge.
This makes me really look forward to that R2!
One of the reasons (not the only reason) I decided on a Lightning over a Rivian was CarPlay. It doesn't take very much for auto makers to included CarPlay/Android Auto into their systems so the consumer has a CHOICE of what they want to use. You prefer the Rivian system, that's great. If CarPlay was on your Rivian, at no point do you ever need to launch it and you can carry on as you are today. However for those of us who prefer CarPlay, Rivian has decided to not provide that simple and well loved feature. At this point, if an automaker is not including CarPlay/Android Auto, it is a conscious decision with motives that only suit themselves. Trust me, they are not doing it for your own good as per GM made statements. Hopefully. these companies (ie. Rivian, Tesla, GM...) gain more than they lose because crazy people such as myself that make that as part of their purchasing decision do exist.
I hear you, no one was more pro CarPlay than I was. All of the cars that I've purchased since CarPlay was a thing all have CarPlay and that was a huge reason why. But that was because at the time CarPlay was the best UI you could hope for in a vehicle. That's just no longer the case. Any functionality that I want to use my phone for now like Waze, apple maps, etc, I still have access to because my phone is still there. Only now CarPlay doesn't take over my display with its icon based display.
@@ChargedUpEV-gx2ik Great to hear that you understand that there are crazy people out there that put these kind of things high on the purchasing decision list because you were also one of them. I also do get what you are saying and I can't really speak on Rivian's software because I haven't lived with it on a daily basis. It is very possible that Rivian or some other company can be better than Apple CarPlay. Apple though, is also not sitting still. There are a bunch of videos showing the custom interfaces and features on the new CarPlay that were just announced this past week. One of the key points of CarPlay is familiarity. I could go rent a car, launch CarPlay and everything is exactly where it was in my truck. No fees, no subscriptions to set up. everything just works. Another big thing are developer apps. You might not find any of the current CarPlay apps useful but maybe one day there will be something you like. you get no option to use it, you just get fed what Rivian thinks you should. So in these aspects. No, Rivian infotainment is not better than CarPlay.
Again, I am not against car manufactures making their own great systems. Please do. Force me to not want to use CarPlay and it sounds like Rivian is doing a good job at it. But please, just add that one button that allows me to use CarPlay if I want to. Well, it's only please, if you want my money. If you don't need my sale, then carry on.
@@ChargedUpEV-gx2ikcan you use Apple Music through the rivian infotainment?
@@mrnomadic1111 right now you can just stream it from your phone via Bluetooth. It does show the song info and album art. Their next entertainment update is supposed to include a native Apple Music App!
@@ChargedUpEV-gx2ik Thanks for the reply, looking forward to that update.
I prefer Waze over Rivian’s navigation BUT I would really like Audible integration. Shouldn’t be too difficult since they’ve already got Alexa integration.
I don’t think anyone can argue with that. I really only use the built in Nav when going on road trips that require charging.
I have my music on my phone. I don't have or want Spotify or another streaming services for music, and I listen to a lot of audiobooks through the Libby App. How will that work without CarPlay? Why not let me have the choice?
Hey, there is still Bluetooth phone integration so you can still listen to anything you want to from your phone. It also shows whatever you’re listening to on the screen and gives you playback controls for it. I still do a lot of phone audio playback depending on what I’m listening to.
Thanks for the answer!
I get it. But the argument for CarPlay (for me) isn’t about what’s better… it’s about what’s missing. Apple Music will be a good addition, but I have a few other apps like Audible, Overcast, Zoom / Teams… I’d like just a way to get at the CarPlay interface for them, as they aren’t likely to be a priority for Rivian or those app makers to integrate natively.
lol you knew you were gonna get people fired up saying you don’t miss Apple car play 😂
Waze is better by far than Rivian's navigation. Nobody would argue that, right? And Rivian severely limits your music apps.
Waze is a convenient service but I don’t necessarily need it taking over my gorgeous UI. I can still access it when I want on my phone. Same with any other music app. I still play most music from my phone so there’s no limitation there. The phone bluetooth audio is well integrated into the native UI.
@@ChargedUpEV-gx2ik Waze on my vehicle's main screen is something I'm not willing to give up. Police reports alone make it invaluable.
I'd just rather have a lot of those controls not be a part of infotainment system. If I need to turn on the defroster quick because my windshield is fogging up I don't want to take my eyes off the road to do it. Give me physical buttons and knobs for that stuff that I can press by touch. Just need music/navigation there for the most part. I can't stand what all these manufacturers are doing.
@@davidrinaldo7292 fair points. All the things you mentioned wanting to do without taking your eyes apart the road can be done in the Rivian using Alexa
hi ,friend ,Can we collaborate on a Rivian accessories video?
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