Doctor Who: The Legend Of Ruby Sunday Breakdown - 25 Easter Eggs & References!

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  • Susan Triad has been to some very curious places indeed. Here’s our breakdown of Doctor Who Season 1's penultimate episode - The Legend Of Ruby Sunday!
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  • @mikeinhouston8181
    @mikeinhouston8181 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +270

    Regeneration is rarely discussed with companions which is why they’re always shocked at the change.

    • @jesseszymcik3026
      @jesseszymcik3026 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

      Yeah, if The Doctor does explain it, before regenerating, it’s just before he regenerates.

    • @zach2992
      @zach2992 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

      Yeah 9 only told Rose as he's about to regenerate.
      Hell, Clara knew all about regeneration and was still surprised by it.

    • @dadofboys4956
      @dadofboys4956 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      True. Capt. Jack told Donna about it during 10's fake-out/meta-crisis regeneration (thanks handy spare hand!)

    • @filthycasual8187
      @filthycasual8187 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zach2992 She wasn't surprised by the regeneration, she was more surprised by what he regenerated into.

    • @tish246
      @tish246 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Has he ever explained Regeneration to anyone when we wasn't about to regenerate or confronted with past faces in some way?

  • @AlexDRohmat
    @AlexDRohmat 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    8:13 designer in the art department for the show actually said on Twitter "Please tell me someone noticed my artron energy reference... set details this niche are never scripted, we just love throwing references around" which is a really cool little insight!

  • @ogplayzz1810
    @ogplayzz1810 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +146

    When you say it's unusual that the doctor hasn't mentioned regeneration. Think about when the doctor was regenerating in stolen earth donna had no idea what was happening even though they had been together a while

    • @jonporter7709
      @jonporter7709 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      Also Rose didnt know either, and im very certain he didnt tell Martha

    • @ashleyklotz3762
      @ashleyklotz3762 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Clara didn't know either... I caught it too and was gonna say something but you already did 😊

    • @SnowLily06
      @SnowLily06 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@ashleyklotz3762 Clara did know because she was the only companion to see every single doctor up to the 11th

    • @koylar
      @koylar 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@ashleyklotz3762clara did know but she couldn’t accept the new face because it was “her doctor “. Deep Breath is about her fighting those contradicting feelings

    • @djdee6386
      @djdee6386 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@jonporter7709he half-told Martha in 42, he thought he might be killed by the star entering his mind and said something to the effect of “Martha, there’s this thing, when timelords are injured…” but she interrupts him before he finishes

  • @robmortimer4150
    @robmortimer4150 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    I just realised… “snow” is a term used for fuzziness on a vhs tape. Probably irrelevant, but you never know…

    • @francisco_m7849
      @francisco_m7849 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      😮 oh that’s very good. So not only is there snow on the VHS tape, but there is snow in Ruby’s memory of the night making it fuzzy hazy not very clear on what actually was going on. Good catch.

  • @olivertaylor9755
    @olivertaylor9755 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

    I think ‘Captain on the bridge’ is most associated with, you know… ships.

    • @kalinystazvoruna8702
      @kalinystazvoruna8702 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Captain on the bridge is common announcement made on all US Navy Vessels and all hands salute. It's not just a Star Trek idea; in fact, Star Trek borrowed it from Naval customs.

    • @dariley95971
      @dariley95971 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes, because people that watch Whoculture really care more about maritime protocol than sci-fi stuff. Nailed it guys.

    • @melonhead118
      @melonhead118 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@dariley95971 They probably care about accurate facts, and Star Trek did not invent "Captain on the bridge".

    • @dariley95971
      @dariley95971 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@melonhead118 And if she said that Star Trek invented the term, you'd have a point.

    • @olivertaylor9755
      @olivertaylor9755 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@dariley95971 it’s not about preference it’s about the truth. It’s a naval term first and foremost - you can’t just tenuously claim it’s an Easter Egg when it’s just simple military lingo.

  • @realhitvz5573
    @realhitvz5573 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    I think Ruby has to be an anti-sutekh weapon. In Egyptian mythology Horus is supposed to be a god of the sky, whose eyes are the sun and the moon. Horus lost an eye battling the god Set (Sutekh is the Dr. Who stand-in for Set, and I think Pyramids of Mars might actually explicitly say that?) which is the story for why the sun is brighter then the moon. So the "Eye of Horus" in mythology is literally the Sun, and the Device in Pyramids of Mars takes the shape of a ruby. Then we get a character named RUBY SUNday.
    Personal theory is that Ruby is actually Horus incarnate, let in by the Doctor like all the other gods, and that Mrs. Flood is her Harbinger (and the woman who dropped her at the church)

    • @Paul-FrancisB
      @Paul-FrancisB 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      I made a similar comment on the last video, also it could be short for Ruby Sun Deity.
      Some literature also put's Horus birthday as around December 25th or the winter solstice another coincidence
      Also the next episode is being broadcast on the summer Solstice

    • @geordiekimbo2
      @geordiekimbo2 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Oh my goodness. "Storm coming!" God of the Sky... Mrs Flood. Nice pull there.
      I'll be in my bunk

    • @christinakohl6111
      @christinakohl6111 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I just rewatched the episodes up to legend of ruby sunday and as much as i would love for ruby to be the anti sutekh weapon i'm not too sure. Because maestro says in the devils chord after he captures her "how can a song have that much power? And power like him." And upon the doctor asking what they mean "the oldest one. On the night of her birth. But he can't have been there." To me that would mean that maybe that song got put into rubys soul like a homing beacon for sutekh to find her again. And if she is the key to his downfall i doubt he'd want that

    • @pokefire5
      @pokefire5 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@christinakohl6111 I'll be honest with you, everything you said in reference to Maestro strengthens the idea the idea that Ruby is an Anti-Sutekh weapon. 'A power like him' is perfect.

    • @christinakohl6111
      @christinakohl6111 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pokefire5 ooooh yeah it could also be seen as "a power equal to him"! I haven't seen it like that before! Or maybe a power similar to sutekh and maestro just confused the 2 or something along those lines. That would explain why they said "but he couldn't have been there" and it not meaning sutekh was there

  • @matthewreese3907
    @matthewreese3907 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Seeing Ellie on the big screen meant for all of the Susan triad characters gets me every time 🤣

  • @raulruiz891
    @raulruiz891 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    I saw someone mention the name correlation between River and Ms. Floof and it got me thinking
    Melody Pond -> River Song -> Carol Flood
    All music and water related. Probably a coincidence though

    • @djdee6386
      @djdee6386 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Is her first name know to be Carol?

    • @satwikdabi7665
      @satwikdabi7665 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      But river song died in the silence in library and she doesn't even have regenerations left. So even though this is a very cool and interesting theory it's very unlikely to be true

    • @christinakohl6111
      @christinakohl6111 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@satwikdabi7665wibbly wobbly timey wimey. Technically this could have happened before. But i haven't given that theory too much thought myself 😅 would be awesone tho!

    • @christinakohl6111
      @christinakohl6111 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Oh that'd be cool! Also mrs floof is probably the best typo i've read in a while❤😂

    • @LisaBeta-42
      @LisaBeta-42 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@satwikdabi7665 She was uploaded into the core of the planet, but could be retrieved anytime (just as Scotty did with the beaming computer of the Enterprise) . all the SAVED people came back to make space in the processing unit of The Library

  • @mortal6134
    @mortal6134 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +276

    Who else watches this channel everyday?

    • @Ludecris
      @Ludecris 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Me

    • @seanstirling2685
      @seanstirling2685 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      1st time here

    • @seanstirling2685
      @seanstirling2685 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or is it?

    • @olivertaylor9755
      @olivertaylor9755 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Not everyday no… maybe go outside for a bit?

    • @mortal6134
      @mortal6134 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@seanstirling2685 Time wimey

  • @likecat7886
    @likecat7886 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    That face when The Doctor is voted as President of the Earth is so funny, every single time. 😂

  • @mhardisty
    @mhardisty 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    One thing missed. Kate says "I think you bring joy" when the Doctor is talking about bringing Chaos to peoples lives. The Christmas Episode is called "Joy to the World"! The Christmas episode is being written by Steven Moffat...
    So, what characters are Steven Moffat associated with? River... Clara...??? I think there will be a reveal at the end that will lead straight into the Christmas Episode.. "Hi Doctor, it's me... River... Clara... or, somebody!"

  • @cypothingy
    @cypothingy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    When Kate said the thing about “evil billionaire with alien technology” I figured it was a reference to Luke Rattigan and ATMOS from series 4. UNIT pretty significantly was not able to stop him and needed the Doctor to step in to save them and stop the Sontarans

    • @zudraczombie
      @zudraczombie 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think it is Elon Musk

    • @lyndylou752
      @lyndylou752 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@zudraczombie agreed I think it was a go at Elon

    • @Edditaur
      @Edditaur 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Luke died at the end of that story though, so its not like he's still around for them to get

    • @AdamBlack
      @AdamBlack 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Henry Van Statten

    • @opaqueentity
      @opaqueentity 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Edditaur But they didn't deal with him in time to stop it happening

  • @Theplaysthet
    @Theplaysthet 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    Nobody is mentioning that Mrs Floods accent changes when she speaks to Cherry. I am pretty convinced she's Susan. Hiding and she has some knowledge of what Ruby is and has been keeping her safe.

    • @darrenrichardson6146
      @darrenrichardson6146 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Yeah, I'm surprised on how few reactors have noticed that in their watches of the episode!

    • @thechillindude4478
      @thechillindude4478 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I honestly thought it was just me who noticed that as was really surprised that not a single TH-camr had brought that up

    • @adamcarlson2192
      @adamcarlson2192 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I think the twist will be that she's a different Time Lord instead. Who knows how they survived, but Time Lords are pretty crafty.

    • @bobbymckeown1451
      @bobbymckeown1451 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Susan would've made her a cup of tea

    • @avalonrhys
      @avalonrhys 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      tbf I'm Canadian and British accents just sound like a singular British accent to me lol

  • @elmoninjaking94
    @elmoninjaking94 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Lol "you'd think that was one of the things he'd explain to her"
    9 was literally half dead before decided to tell Rose (in the most cryptic way possible)

  • @shaunwilliams6112
    @shaunwilliams6112 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    6:48 The 9th doctor didn’t tell Rose about regeneration until he was about to regenerate

    • @lordpistonia
      @lordpistonia 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      True that

    • @steve-0493
      @steve-0493 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yup..its a little trick we timelords have,a way to cheat death..and ur gonna see me change..and want see this daft ole face now more...🥺

    • @lucifersdevilishdetails.
      @lucifersdevilishdetails. 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And Martha didn’t know still Jack tell her and she witnessed the master’s
      Then Donna found out when the doctor start to regenerate.

    • @danthemeegs8751
      @danthemeegs8751 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which was also weird! I just think they'd realistically tell them sooner

  • @stoneyvision4775
    @stoneyvision4775 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    To be fair Rose did not know what regeneration was until Christopher Eccleston regenerated because she at first thinks that he’s teleported and tells David Tennant to “bring him back” so it’s not uncommon for the Doctor to not really mention it to his companions

    • @TheSpicer64
      @TheSpicer64 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is a regular thing. Martha was only told in 42 when The Doctor thought he'd die, Donna only found out when he regenerated, Clara found out in Time of The Doctor, Amy and the Fam only found out early because the Doctor had just regenerated

  • @Enigmanaut
    @Enigmanaut 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    First, I love the Galaxy Class necklace. Second, I have a theory, probably wrong, but you won't like it.
    Mrs Flood is a regeneration of River Song, and Ruby's mum. You pointed out the "hiding myself away" link to regeneration, but did you notice that she said her mother died when she wasn't looking. When can a Weeping Angel move? Ruby has a Song hidden in her. Her initials are RS. Mrs Flood's surname is water related. If her first name is music related like "Carol" then it's just another variation of Melody Pond.
    Like I said, you won't like it.

    • @christinakohl6111
      @christinakohl6111 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I love the idea and the links are linking. However river gave up all her regenerations to save 11 and now she has none left. And i doubt the timelords would give her new ones since she isn't even a full timelord

    • @eshbena
      @eshbena 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@christinakohl6111 Okay, I agree with you on that, but also... I can totally see River escaping the library computer and stealing herself some regenerations. XD

  • @Jimmyd2107
    @Jimmyd2107 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    When she said she dreamed of Orange Skies, I simply thought she was talking about the sky in “Boom”, which being Wartorn and all I thought made sense 😅

    • @lewiswernham6791
      @lewiswernham6791 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Or, you know, Mars?

    • @missdarque
      @missdarque วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, the TARDIS had landed on Gallifrey.

  • @michaelmcchesney6645
    @michaelmcchesney6645 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    My dream is that I am right about Ruby's mother being River. I can definitely see Sutekh being defeated in the season finale, but that episode ends with the reveal that River is Ruby's mother and Ruby is Susan's. Then that would be followed up in the Christmas special. If only it were being written by Steven Moffat we could get River back in that episode. Oh, wait...

  • @MarkGM1985
    @MarkGM1985 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    That is a Borg was my exact though after seen her.
    I seriously hope colonel sexy... I mean Ibrahim doesn't turn a bad guy, I'm interested in seeing him more around the show.
    Nice video!

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Captain on the Bridge is a pretty standard naval term. Star Trek got it from the military not the other way round.

  • @igorschmidlapp6987
    @igorschmidlapp6987 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    "You may be a doctor, but I am THE Doctor... the definite article, you might say..." - 4th Doctor to Harry Sullivan, post-regeneration

  • @BadWolfBricks
    @BadWolfBricks 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    When Susan said she dreams of orange skies I assumed she was referring to the planet in boom but it would be awesome if it was a nod to Galifray

    • @jdgjagerbomber9430
      @jdgjagerbomber9430 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      She was but people love looking for stuff that's not there specially our Ellie that's why we watch 😂

    • @bobmasters9871
      @bobmasters9871 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      There's no reason it couldn't be both

    • @CreepyNoodles69
      @CreepyNoodles69 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Or Mars as a direct reference to Pyramids of Mars.

    • @karenfilby3440
      @karenfilby3440 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The planet on Boom had orange skies? I'll have to have another watch

  • @NevaBeast
    @NevaBeast 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Not mentioning regeneration to Ruby earlier kind of makes sense as with his previous Best Mate (Donna) it wasn't until The Stolen Earth that Rose explained what was happening with the Doctor, that being regeneration.

  • @Gersheyz
    @Gersheyz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Ellie's hair, makeup, and outfit are all Ruby red. Coincidence?

    • @lahoucine7
      @lahoucine7 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think not 🤭

    • @ari54x
      @ari54x 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Probably not but that hair is amazing and deserves more likes, wow Ellie! Great content and looking cool AF

    • @WhoCulture
      @WhoCulture  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      👀👀

  • @JRHainsworth
    @JRHainsworth 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    9 didn't explain regeneration to Rose until he had to regenerate, and they'd been implies to be together for a long time before Bad Wolf.

  • @shadowoftime01
    @shadowoftime01 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    okay, but the Sutekh beast looks like the dog head thing Sarah Jane Smith sees in the TARDIS that starts off Pyramids of Mars... like, i think that was the dsign they went with.

  • @SG20three
    @SG20three 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Continuity error or wibbly wobbly timey wimey thing (or me just not paying attention)?
    After the conversation where Carla says: “Now go and get Mrs Flood...” We see a clock radio in the house displaying 15:08, just as Mrs Flood arrives.
    Why is the clock radio in Ruby’s house ahead of time? We know it's at least 90 minutes before Susan Triad is due to make her speech at 15:00.

    • @fifinoir
      @fifinoir 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I mean the clock does flash when Mrs Flood enters their flat as though her presence interferes with signals/time. Maybe it’s wrong because of her? Maybe it’s just always the wrong time cause of power cuts? Maybe the time means something?

    • @Happymama12
      @Happymama12 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Very astute. I think it’s important because initially I definitely thought it was weird that they had that little flash to the radio clock and it said something about storms. I didn’t even notice the time lmao but they don’t do anything like that by accident it was very clearly wanting to get our attention to that clock.

    • @kineticnotion
      @kineticnotion 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This has been bothering me too! I definitely don’t think it would be continually error, since 15.00 (3 pm) was an important time mentioned. I still think there is something weird with time happening, from the odd dates mentioned throughout the season.

    • @Happymama12
      @Happymama12 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@kineticnotion yea something weird is going on with time or even maybe they are shifting between universes/realities. I’ve seen some people’s theories that say maybe we aren’t seeing the episodes in chronological order. Which makes sense sometimes it feels like the doctor and Ruby have spent a lot of time together but we don’t get to see the time they spent together. We know they had other adventures involving Susan twist because of the 2 places they mentioned they saw her that we as an audience didn’t get to see. Idk. Timey wimey, wibbly wobbly 🤷‍♀️

  • @Happymama12
    @Happymama12 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I hope we can get River back too, Ellie. We have to keep that hope alive

  • @JDKrug
    @JDKrug 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think that Colonel Ibrahim is still a good guy, it was just another easter egg to hint at the continuation of Pyramid of Mars.
    My hope is he turns out to be the modern day version of Sergeant Benton.

    • @lyndylou752
      @lyndylou752 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think he is so cute a great but of eye candy who cares

  • @stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765
    @stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    yep I think the eye of horus in the form of a red gem is critical. but it got smashed in Pyramids. actual egyptian legend says the eye was healed (often thanks to the aid of Thoth). Now, that makes ruby a strong contender for a key role in defeating sutekh this time... but if she is only one fragment, where are the others and how many other pieces are there? we have two other characters who are apparently totally unconnected to the sutekh story, but who are being dragged into it and who have red-related names. Rose and Cherry. that would give us three 'fragments' in human forms. a triad of fragments if you like.
    you heard it here first

  • @Pir4te47
    @Pir4te47 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I know others have mentioned it elsewhere as well, but regarding Rose's assignment to investigate shoplifting in Catford, if you steal something from Catford, the letter T maybe, you are left with C. A. Ford. Or Carole Ann Ford, who played Susan Foreman. COINCIDENCE!!?? Almost definitely.

    • @Jordan-zl4pn
      @Jordan-zl4pn 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love this.

    • @Pir4te47
      @Pir4te47 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Jordan-zl4pn If they have done this on purpose, delightfully clever easter egg.

  • @jdgjagerbomber9430
    @jdgjagerbomber9430 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The orange skies thing was NOT galifray it was in referance to the planet from Boom all the things she listed was referencing things we already saw or knew

    • @EthanMiguelScott
      @EthanMiguelScott 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What is with people( especially the younger generations) and false dichotomies lately( since 2016ish)? There's no reason it can't be both. She did say skie*s*, plural, right?

    • @jdgjagerbomber9430
      @jdgjagerbomber9430 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EthanMiguelScott My issues comes from Ellie (Who i like by the way) saying there is only one planet we know that has an orange sky then mentioning Galifray, I dont mind wrong information but sometimes i feel like they are saying it for clicks

  • @chrisd1982
    @chrisd1982 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Am inthe only one who thought the time windows from Sarah Jane adventures look like the anomalies from primevil, great reference to another great 2000s time travel show

    • @TheAdmiral117
      @TheAdmiral117 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I audibly said 'Primeval!' when I saw the time window in that little snippet 😅

  • @anniesharp4871
    @anniesharp4871 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I saw this idea expressed by someone else in the TH-cam whoniverse comment section earlier today, and while I realise it is an insane long shot, I love its basis in further word play: Rose Noble was complaining to Ruby that UNIT never give her proper work, asking her to investigate "shoplifting in Catford." If you steal something from "Catford" -- a "t," for example, you end up with C.A. Ford i.e. Carol Ann Ford. Who is it that is always looking for t/tea? Cherry Sunday. So....is Cherry actually Susan Foreman?! And will she at some point appear in her Carol Ann Ford form in the episode!?
    What I do feel more certain about is that Cherry will play a significant role. While her one-liners have been brilliant, you don't get someone as great as Angela Wynter for only a minor part. I found it interesting that Ruby stated it was her gran who requested and retrieved the CCTV footage rather than Carla.
    Perhaps Cherry is both Ruby's birth mother and Susan, but is currently in human form? Mrs Flood even seems to be watching over her...like a companion?
    I think Sutekh will be defeated by some kind of dormant power within Ruby, perhaps aided by Susan Foreman :)

    • @magpieone9390
      @magpieone9390 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought that Ruby might be the Doctor's great-granddaughter.If he scanned her and saw two hearts (which you didn't see if he did),he refused to acknowledge it till he knew her beginnings for sure.

  • @CreepyNoodles69
    @CreepyNoodles69 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The orange skies reference is probably just a reference to Mars.

  • @zachh6868
    @zachh6868 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I noticed they played The Master's theme, specifically "The Master Vainglorious", when Ruby went into the time window again. Now that's probably just Murray Gold reusing themes, but What If

  • @BluOtter17
    @BluOtter17 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    To be fair though about companions knowing about regeneration; Rose only found out from Nine when it started after all their adventures together, so doesn’t usually seem high on the Doctors list of need to know info for companions apparently

  • @1paulbeth
    @1paulbeth 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    13:20 the hand holding the cushion still when Sutekh stands up!!

  • @hammerman199374
    @hammerman199374 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    RE: The Doctor not explaining regeneration to Ruby: Remember that Nine didn't tell Rose about regenerating until he was starting to regenerate into Ten. I think there are other instances where he hesitates explaining it. I think sometimes it's a conscious choice on the Doctor's part if he doesn't think he will need to regenerate for a long time.

  • @zarticz9254
    @zarticz9254 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If you look at the buttons on Ruby's denim jacket on the promotional material, they have some kind of marking on the buttons. I think the left is R and the right is S (Ruby Sunday) - But I'm not sure, it seems intentional, it could be an egyptian eye (The eye of Horus) - Either way, everything is intential - I admire the attention to detail.

  • @jimmann4763
    @jimmann4763 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another one: when Carla Sunday sees the dark cloud manifesting itself around the Tardis, she refers to it as the Beast, which is also the name used for the godlike creature in The Satan Pit. And as you noted, Gabriel Woolf voices both Sutekh and the Beast. And one final link: in The Pyramids of Mars, when the Fourth Doctor is listing the other names of Sutekh, one he lists is Satan.

  • @MarvelX42
    @MarvelX42 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The FIRST Doctor had a Time Window on the TARDIS. It looked more like a portal. They even watched abit of the Beatles singing on it. Also in the clip where they were talking about Artron energy, those dials, I think (could be wrong), are from Forbidden Planet.

  • @nickrayer3776
    @nickrayer3776 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    3:09 i thought they where talking about The Master when he was Saxon

    • @wendyheatherwood
      @wendyheatherwood 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But the following line is "We'll get him", suggesting it's someone currently active.

  • @feedmeseemore5046
    @feedmeseemore5046 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Twist isn’t Sutekh but a harbinger of his return. He appears in Unit. So who is twist before she became a harbinger? Sutekh is the lord of death. What if Twist is River Song resurrected from the library.
    The Doctor & River Song spent 24 years on that planet before her immediate demise in the library. But what if she got pregnant with the Doctors child?
    Riversong learns of the coming of Sutekh because it’s history for her and sends their child to Ruby Road.
    Ruby is Riversong & The Doctors child. Is Ruby Sunday. After Rubys adventures and leaves the doctor. As she grows older she marries becomes Mrs Flood and has a child “Susan” who ends up in Gallyfry meeting The First Doctor who the doctor recognised the dna as being his grandchild but unsure from when.

    • @Happymama12
      @Happymama12 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That would actually be an interesting way for them to explain how the doctor has a grandchild but not yet lol that line legit short circuited my brain and gave me a headache 😂

  • @geoffroi-le-Hook
    @geoffroi-le-Hook 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Tegan knew the Mara. Tegan worked for UNIT in the 13th/14th Doctor's era ... hmmmm ....

  • @scifirocks
    @scifirocks 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I thought that UNIT saying that they couldn't stop the obvious was a reference to the master. He became prime minister, worked for MI5, and the stuff Missy did with death.

    • @lynnsaull5723
      @lynnsaull5723 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I presume you are referring to Archangel, a possibility, but the Doctor reversed time so only a few , Martha, her Family, Captain Jack and himself remembered.

  • @liammellor6405
    @liammellor6405 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why would regeneration have been explained to Ruby? It wasn’t explained to Rose until it happened. It wasn’t even mentioned to Amy and Rory, or Bill, or Martha, or Yaz, Graham, Ryan. In fact, barely any companions from Nu Who are aware of it. Only 4 of them have actually witnessed it.

  • @metapoulpo2745
    @metapoulpo2745 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Something i noticed, there are two "susan twist" at the same era (2023/2024). One is Susan Triad of course and the other is the woman in the bar on The Church on Ruby Road, so how does it work ? I cant find an explanation yet. XD

    • @deadpuppetsociety
      @deadpuppetsociety 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      There's also the hiker in 73 Yards. Even if the timeline is erased, there was likely still a woman hiking in Wales who's probably teased about looking like this billionaire.

    • @metapoulpo2745
      @metapoulpo2745 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@deadpuppetsociety Indeed !

    • @marianneootjers4786
      @marianneootjers4786 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe that timeline, when Susan is in the pub, partially change after the Doctor went to rescue baby Ruby in 2004? Because in the original timeline the Tardis wouldn't have been there. And even though he sortof reset it, time does keep changing around that event. So maybe in the og timeline she was there but tech Susan triad wasn't, and in the changed version it switched. Timey wimey stuff.

    • @LisaBeta-42
      @LisaBeta-42 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Triplets in the Triad family - one likes pubs, because of her dinner-lady lineage, the other likes walking long distances, due to the postman-parent and the third just got techy and scooped up lots of money by investing in alien technology? 3 male "collectors" and rich idiotes came before her + that "dumpster-pile Trump" 13th got problems with

  • @xedalpha1
    @xedalpha1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think Mrs Flood is the next Missy. Sometimes helpful, randomly callous, seemingly sarcastic at random... We had thr Masters theme kicking in at the end.

    • @suzanneaskey5653
      @suzanneaskey5653 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes I wondered that too, especially when she switched to the Scottish accent when she was talking to Cherry.

  • @MrFearDubh
    @MrFearDubh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I assume that the Doctor not mentioning regeneration to Ruby until within an aired episode is for new Whovians (Disney Whovians) so they learn about this in preparation for the 16th Doctor. Setting the stage as it were. Disney plans to be in the Doctor Who business for the long haul.

  • @shadowoftime01
    @shadowoftime01 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I don't know about HMRN, but at least in American Naval tradition, Captain on the Bridge is a common phrase said by the Officer on Deck/Watch, I assume it came from British seafaring tradition, but either way, that's why it's common on Star Trek, Trek space faring is heavily adapted from Naval counterparts including things like Ships of the Line, Naval terms llke Port, Bow, Aft, Stern, Starboard, etc.

  • @mrwittyone
    @mrwittyone 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Susan Triad says her mother was a dinner lady. In "The Devil's Chord," Susan Twist PLAYED a dinner lady at Abbey Road Studios. Maybe that was her mother?? I'm surprised Elle missed this connection.

  • @SwanChannel
    @SwanChannel 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At the start of Series 2, Episode 8 ("The Impossible Planet") - the Doctor exits the TARDIS - which was making an odd sound. The Doctor says to Rose "I wonder what's wrong with her. She's sort of queasy. Indigestion". Extra reference? Relevant to the Empire of Death - maybe?

  • @dlfjessup
    @dlfjessup 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    At 06:37: “Does anyone else find it weird that the Doctor and Ruby have spent quite a lot of time together … and he hasn't got to the point of explaining regeneration to her?” Well, consider this: when Nine was starting to regenerate at the end of “Parting of the Ways”, it's pretty clear that he's never explained regeneration to Rose, either, and is trying to fill her in before he changes his face. So this is not exactly out of character for him.

  • @ofskittlez
    @ofskittlez 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You know who has the same initials as River Song? Ruby Sunday.

    • @Blasted2Oblivion
      @Blasted2Oblivion 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Coincidence? I think not. Well, no, it probably is but still. Nice catch.

  • @rinjoo3
    @rinjoo3 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I haven't seen anyone talking about Susan saying "I darer to hope" at the Sutekh reveal scene, although it is what Ruby said near the end of 72 Yards
    🤔

    • @marianneootjers4786
      @marianneootjers4786 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just posted the same thing. Feels like it's more than a coincidence.

  • @jacobkelsey7972
    @jacobkelsey7972 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If WhoCulture sees this comment please mention it in a future video.
    I just realized that if you Disregard the Timeless child lore. The Doctor is In his Second Regeneration cycle.
    First Regeneration Cycle/Second Regeneration cycle
    William Hartnell/Peter Capaldi: 1st Doctor
    Patrick Troughton/Jodie Whitaker: 2nd Doctor
    Jon Pertwee/David Tennant: 3rd Doctor
    Tom Baker/Ncuti Gatwa: 4th Doctor
    Tom Baker and Ncuti Gatwa play the 4th Doctor of their respective Regeneration Cycle and they both Fight Sutekh.

  • @AndrewLakeUK
    @AndrewLakeUK 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm still holding on to my "Who is your your next of kin", "WHO is My next of kin", thing with the ambulance.

  • @pinkspot1998
    @pinkspot1998 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Tbh a lot of companions rarely have regeneration explained to them unless they witness it. I.e Rose, Sarah Jane, Clara

  • @liamanderson5954
    @liamanderson5954 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The base on mars could also be a set up for waters of mars happenning around 2059.

  • @francisco_m7849
    @francisco_m7849 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😮 I was watching the close caption to legend of Ruby, Sunday, and the end part where in harbor began to speak I did not hear it clearly in my head until I read it, and she was clearly explaining the fact that from the original series decades ago Sotec has been slowly warming its way into the tardis in such a way that the doctor did not see it coming. What a fantastic way to bring the old series villain to today and all by a simple description.

  • @LesleyTurner-ue7ol
    @LesleyTurner-ue7ol 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I assumed the world with an orange sky was Mars.

  • @VitalCoronet
    @VitalCoronet วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the face of 12 when Kate says "If you say so mister president"

  • @themasterofterriblecgi5498
    @themasterofterriblecgi5498 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One little detail which I picked up on which wasn't mentioned here - during the scene when Susan Triad hears the voice of Sutekh and starts getting confused and breaking down, she at one point says "I dare to hope", which is something Old Ruby said near the end of 73 Yards.

  • @robbuck5783
    @robbuck5783 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6:55 technically it’s not that weird, Rose wasn’t told about regeneration until 9 was starting the process

  • @marianneootjers4786
    @marianneootjers4786 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Old Ruby in 73 yards talking to the Tardis/Doctor; "I dare to hope" and Susan Triad talking just after Sutekh starts speaking "and I hope...I mean, I dare to hope". Is I dare to hope a common phrase in England? Because if not, the phrasing seems delibirate. Like how 'hiding themselves/myself away' is.

  • @josephcooter5763
    @josephcooter5763 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Security Camera in junk yard? Say Ruby Road doesn't intersect with Totter's Lane does it?

    • @scifirocks
      @scifirocks 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, Ruby Road in Manchester and the original junkyard is in London

    • @josephcooter5763
      @josephcooter5763 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@scifirocks I didn't mean it seriously. Besides. If what you are saying is true they'd be in New Hampshire.

    • @wendyheatherwood
      @wendyheatherwood 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@josephcooter5763 No no, not the
      tribute one in the US, the real one. :)

    • @LisaBeta-42
      @LisaBeta-42 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Christmas 2004 - a lot of things were possible! - on New Years Eve - or some minutes later, the 10th Doctor said good bye to Rose (the first contact of her with the Doctor, meeting 9th some months later)

  • @HLR4th
    @HLR4th 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope Ellie gets her wish and River gets her timey whimey return…but I think it’s more likely to happen when Moffat next writes an episode.

  • @JoeThornhill
    @JoeThornhill 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:37 Never mind that this is a precedent, since he's never been so open. He just did explain it. Not if-and-when he thinks it'll come to that or at the last minute while he's in the middle of regenerating. I don't think he's ever explained it more than half an episode before (even potentially) doing so.

  • @douglasschultz2922
    @douglasschultz2922 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ellie, I always love watching your video's and your joy & love for Doctor Who makes me have a better day! Thank You!!! : )

  • @shadowoftime01
    @shadowoftime01 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not weird he didnt tell Ruby about regeneration, Donna and Rose both didnt know about it by the end of their seasons with him. Clara too, but that was a half season.

  • @Bored_Barbarian
    @Bored_Barbarian 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    2:35 she’s also the Night King lol

  • @gestaltdude
    @gestaltdude 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The photo of the Brig is from the Seventh Doctor story Battlefield, which saw Lethbridge-Stewart come out of retirement to help fight Morgaine and Mordred.

  • @gkcn9688
    @gkcn9688 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I need River back as Ruby's mother and this connection sound wonderful❤

  • @icon_uk624
    @icon_uk624 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Given some of the... well, let's be charitable and say "reaching" in the examples given, I'm surprised there was no mention of the "Triple Deity of Malice and Mischief and Misery" being a reference to the three Gods of Ragnarok from "The Greatest Show in the Galaxt"

  • @shadowoftime01
    @shadowoftime01 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Artron energy isn't just a "generic science-y energy," it's directly tied to the Time Vortex and time travel, as the harmless ambient radiation you pick up traveling through it, or powers it or whatever.

  • @kineticnotion
    @kineticnotion 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Definitely should of mentioned Mrs Floods shinny tooth when she looks out the window!

  • @retnavybrat
    @retnavybrat 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Re: #14: I can only think of six companions throughout the entire 60 year span of the show that had at least some idea of regeneration before it happened to their Doctor.
    1. Although the Brigadier didn't know about regeneration when the Third Doctor popped up, he was well aware of it by the time Three regenerated into Four ("Here we go again.")
    2. In the Third Doctor's final story, "The Planet of the Spiders", K'anpo Rimpoche gave a brief explanation of regeneration to Sarah Jane.
    3. In "Time and the Rani", Mel claims she knew about regeneration when she encounters the newly regenerated Seventh Doctor.
    4. I can't remember if Clara knew about regeneration before Eleven told her he had no more regenerations left (as far as he knew at the time 😉) in "The Time of the Doctor", but at the very least, she knew enough to comment that Eleven's face hadn't changed when she thought he had already regenerated.
    5. If Yaz didn't know about regeneration before "The Power of the Doctor", she definitely found out during that episode.
    6. Donna was aware of regeneration by the time the Fourteenth Doctor bi-regenerated the Fifteenth.

  • @gurulimbo
    @gurulimbo 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    9 didn’t tell Rose about regeneration until it happened

  • @alandunbar4244
    @alandunbar4244 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Something that spiked my interest goes back to The Church On Ruby Road with the Susan Triad Heckler, when she asks Ruby to play Gaudete. This song refers to a very religious period in the Christian calendar which is Gaudete Sunday. This is also known as the 3rd Sunday of Advent (Ruby being the 3rd Sunday in her family). In The Devils Chord, Maestro mentioned that she had a hidden song within Ruby, which could be in reference to the very same day. The day itself in the bible refers to the story of John the Baptist, and it opens with a prophecy that the desert region will rejoice and sing and bloom with abundant flowers. (Sutekh wishes initially to render the earth into a dusty desert and destroy all life) The story also mentions that a saviour will ensure that "death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away".
    This does suggest that Ruby is going to be key in this returning Saviour, potentially what/or whoever is on that planet that RTD mentioned.

  • @TreyMcDonaldAnimator
    @TreyMcDonaldAnimator 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This isn't canon or anything but there is a wild theory that the whole time, we find out that Ruby's mother could actually be River. There are some BIG gaps in that theory like in what time frame would River do this, why is she in a mysterious robe, who is the father, and this theory about Ruby being connected to Sutekh in a way. But I know for a fact that if it ends up true, 1: Ellie will faint. Not might, WILL. 2: River might be the most impactful and influential companion the Doctor has had... period.

  • @lhermitesombre9762
    @lhermitesombre9762 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ty for this so good analyse !!!

  • @GazzardOke
    @GazzardOke 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bet the comment on "what is the memory of a tardis?" in the time window was a foreshadowing of Ruby going in it while being stuck in the time window room and it being linked to the memory tardis that we've been seeing all the past drs and companions. Would be awesome.

  • @Seinneann
    @Seinneann 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:05 Harriet also mentioned the Malus- Remember that scary demon face that was in the church and created a time window that Will came through in The Awakening? The Malus also appeared in the Tardis like Sutekh did.
    Also, did you notice Harriet shedding a tear when she spoke of the death and destruction?

  • @deadpuppetsociety
    @deadpuppetsociety 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I doubt it's a Musk reference. He's not a genius, just rich. Also, how come I've yet to see anyone mention that Carla said "I know that voice! It's the Beast!" when it literally IS Satan's voice? My personal theory is that Sutekh was originally an Osiran, and all the extended universe stuff happened, and he makes a deal in the Void so that if he helps free Toymaker and Maestro, they'll make him part of the Pantheon. And during Pyramids of Mars, a small part of himself latched onto the TARDIS and sloooooowly infiltrated so he could pass through the intruder detection system, becoming interwoven through all the times the TARDIS had to change appearances, and when it got to the edge of the universe, the 2 halves merged to become whole again.

  • @MrMann0123
    @MrMann0123 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So love you picked up the Borg one

  • @TheSyncos
    @TheSyncos 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Additionally: Gabriel Woolf voiced "The Beast" in series two, and when Sutekh was revealing himself, Ruby's mother Carla says "I know its name. It's the Beast!"

  • @Sleepy_DOOD1701
    @Sleepy_DOOD1701 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Mrs Flood being a time lord still doesn’t explain why she can break the 4th wall. The Doctor is the progenitor Time Lord and even they can’t do that

  • @room337
    @room337 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain it was said that the Tardis skimming the edge of the time vortex in the opening credits is important.

  • @milou66
    @milou66 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hm. Well, Eccleston didn't explain regeneration to Rose until it was actually happening.

  • @Ins0mn3sia
    @Ins0mn3sia 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know it's likely just coincidence. But Susan's "posing" post reveal was reminiscent of The Silence, who strike a similar pose when going all zappy.

  • @tadwimmer6225
    @tadwimmer6225 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “Captain on the bridge” is a very old naval tradition. Predates Star Trek by decades, if not centuries.

  • @Austenstone118
    @Austenstone118 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we acknowledge the ninth doctor outfit that the doctor was wearing? and also that this was the first time we’ve seen him get angry in a very ninth doctor fashion?

  • @ramonaheart
    @ramonaheart 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The last time I was this early for a video, Gallifrey was still safe 🤪

    • @skinnysnorlax9356
      @skinnysnorlax9356 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Soooo, some time between “The Day of the Doctor” and “The Timeless Child”, then?

    • @apoloartemis9038
      @apoloartemis9038 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@skinnysnorlax9356until spyfall*

  • @FiXato
    @FiXato 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You know who else played a dinner lady? Susan Twist.

  • @kimcormier5109
    @kimcormier5109 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would love to see River Song with the 14&15 doctor ❤❤❤❤

  • @veggiet2009
    @veggiet2009 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So Ellie's dream episode would be about halfway through the episode the doctor recognizes that he needs the eye of Horus, and then proceeds to go to the nearest video shop and grabs a copy of a Melody Malone mystery VHS , and then head to the unit time window, once the doctor puts in the VHS and then begins recalling his memory of river, boom there she is, this time the VHS is in color so the video is in color and like the tardis river is more solid, and because she's River she can have a two-way conversation through the time window which of course blows the power out of the water much to the satisfaction of the other unit scientists

  • @atomikdog2024
    @atomikdog2024 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That gem on Suhtek's forehead was also on the back of each of his Mummy Robots in Pyramids of Mars, fwiw. It seemed to be their energy source.

  • @EmmaHughes-xh9ho
    @EmmaHughes-xh9ho 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And in Torchwood episode small worlds captain jack mentioned the Mara