I do. About 300 Mio people speak russian all around the globe, but how many of them started war? I think that's a tiny percentage. Also speaking the same languages get's us become closer and understand others better, which helps to solve and to avoid war. English is usefull to get the message, but learning russian helps to understand the culture, which adds up to what one said. And there are so many ukrainian that speak russian, too. I believe, it's even more important to learn russian these days, than ever before. ❤
I've been learning for 3 months, I've studied hard and bought a book in russian from Dobstoesky!! I'm so excited to learn this absolutely amazing language!!
To me, this is one of the great beauties of Russian and other highly inflected languages. You can almost toss the words into the air, say them in whatever order they fall to the ground, and the sentence will make sense. Okay, not always and sometimes it sounds silly, but word order is much more fluid in Russian than in English.
It sounds more literary (which adds some silliness actually) when using non standart word order. Of course most of sentences will make sense but will sound like you are a poet or Yoda (atleast in Russian version he commonly uses unusual orders and sounds more "majestic")
@@AngelaRodhas Funny, but as an American English speaker I have studied some Spanish and always thought your language was backwards to my line of thought. Language really shapes the way we think more than we realize at times
Конечно же этот комментарий не для того, чтобы нагнать трафика, но всё ещё я хочу выразить искреннюю благодарность за то, как ты чётко и достаточно внятно говоришь по-английски, так гораздо проще учиться понимать английскую речь лучше. И да, получается иронично, но твой контент позволяет улучшать навыки не только ищучающим русский, но и изучающим английский)0)
I took a year of beginner Russian at the local university about 4-5 years ago, and have been following your channel and trying to learn on my own since. I could NEVER understand the logic of word order in Russian conversation, such as; WHY DO THEY SAY THINGS BACKWARD???? (at times). You've finally solved one of the GREATEST mysteries about Russian language that have perplexed me for so long! Thank you so much!
@@r3pa152 да-да ) долго приходилось понимать, почему нельзя просто взять и расставить слова в любом порядке. Yeah-yeah, It took a lot of time to understand why we can't just put the words in the order we want to
Спасибо, что ты снимаешь ролики не только для начинающих. Этот ролик очень полезен для тех, которые уже отлично понимают русский язык, но не знаю негласные правила. Ты выражаешь словами то, что ф чувствую, когда слушаю что-то на русском, но не могу так говорить сама.
This is very interesting and helpful! When it's written text, sometimes you would bold words in a sentence to emphasize something, or just say it louder. Like, "Why would you *buy* that?" vs "Why would you buy *that* ?" Learning that you can restructure your sentences to convey that information without tone of voice is cool. The Russian language is very versatile this way. Спасиба!
Your examples from 7:12 on remind me of times I've encountered this word order (OSV) in Russian before, and thought to myself, "Ah yes, when Russian goes Yoda-speak" 😉 - but now I properly understand why, so thanks for that.
I like it how TH-cam recommend for me a video about the exact thing that I was thinking about just 2 hours ago without even searching. And the common thing between these videos that they are all made by the intelligent Fedor 🙌
As someone who grew up bilingual as a child, which later evolved into receptive bilingualism, I always struggled with Russian sentence structure because I knew it was quite flexible, yet I often found myself not sounding natural. There was always something off, which was frustrating. English, on the other hand, was somehow easier for me to grasp. This difficulty persisted, especially since I later grew up learning (and sometimes forgetting) four languages simultaneously. The grammar of those languages still gets mixed up in my brain. Videos like these are incredibly helpful to me.
а можно этот преподаватель будет учить и в обратную сторону? Уж больно круто он все объясняет. Даже объясняя русский англоязычной аудитории можно многому научиться, а если было бы наоборот, то я бы вообще пересматривал каждый видос по 5 раз))
This seems akin to emphasing words in a sentence in English. Like saying, "I didn't steal HER horse" instead of "I didn't steal her HORSE" or "I didn't STEAL her horse"
'I didn't steal HER horse', is like saying, 'I didn't steal a horse from her'. 'I didn't steal her HORSE', implies that you stole something else from her. 'I didn't STEAL her horse', implies you didn't steal it, but borrowed the horse. It's nice to understand this as English as a second language, but I can see why it's so difficult for others to learn English. :(
russians also usually change the meaning of what they say by emphasizing words. it is true that in russian you can rearrange words in any order. it's just that some word order will sound strange and unnatural. and even so, the meaning will still depend on the intonation, not the order of the words.
I think the best analogy in English for "Тебя я люблю" is "It is YOU who I love". Pretty much the same emphasis, just put a bit differently grammatically
It`s just another way to do that in russian. because you can still emphasise words even in regular order. "Я люблю тебя"(I love you), "Я люблю ТЕБЯ"(i love YOU)
I think we also do this in English to some extent, “I love you” could be changed to “it is YOU that I love”, if you wanted to contrast your love for someone over someone else. It’s not something I have thought about before though, my Russian teachers always just say that word order doesn’t matter but I am still a beginner.
Probably they say that it doesn't matter because it doesn't change sense of sentence, just make some emphasis which in most cases in emotional layer of language rather than in grammar. So to understand it you need some basic knowledge like from this video and just a lot of experience to properly get point of order changes. Even speakers hardly explain it because it something we don't really think, we just feel it ;)
Я же не одна смотрю иакие видео не только , чтобы разобраться в английском , но и чтобы помочь людям в комментариях чуточку разобраться в некоторых аспектах русского языка? :)
А мне интересно смотреть, т.к. внезапно узнаёшь новое про собственный язык :) О многих вещах просто не задумываешься. Что-то конечно изучается в школе на уроках русского и литературы, но либо уже забылось, либо такие "очевидные" (для того у кого русский - родной) вещи даже не изучаются.
Заметьте также, слов порядок меняет интонацию их не меньше, чем окрас. А также, текст один и тот же перестроить образом можно таким, что сам носитель его не сразу разберёт. Если не писатель вы, пользоваться лучше комбинацией обычной, ненароком дабы читателя не взбесить) что-то заигрался я с порядком этим XD
Секрет должен ли я вам открыть? Великий Магистр Ордена Джедаев я. Работу эту выиграл в лотерее, так вы думаете? «Как вы узнали, как вы узнали, мастер Йода?» Знает мастер Йода все это. Работа это его.
Извольте здравия комментаторам выше всем пожелать. Интеллектуалов количество немалое увидеть приятно на Ютуба просторах англоязычного. Поймут хотелось надеяться бы иностранцы спич незамысловатый мой. Всем бобра))
@@katehok9921 боюсь, бобёр тот, вами упомянутый, в не меньший ступор введёт людей, кому язык русский не родной с рождения. Однако, смекалка помочь им догадаться может.)
@@milaos8787 Чувство неоднозначное испытываю я, издеваюсь над детьми будто, извращая слов в речи порядок своей. Ребятам хватает и так сложностей в языка русского изучении
These make completely intuitive sense to me as an exclusively native anglophone. We do have some similar features, even without adding words but with reärranging them, although intonation conveys a lot. I feel much more confident about this topic now. Спасибо!
Thank you for this video, it cleared up for me a little bit why the word order in two sentences like я тебя люблю, and ты мне нравишься are in the order that they are in!
Its very interesting how russian rearrange the sentence for tone changes that english use. After all sarcasm and discontent can be expressed through tone and mimicry in english.
Мне есть что ответить :) У меня так называемая "начитанная" грамотность - с детства много читаю и обладаю хорошей зрительной памятью. В результате знаю как правильно пишутся слова и составляются предложения, но не знаю почему. Эти простые уроки помогают лучше узнать родной язык.
I know it is a video about russian, but i have an interesting fact: In polish language we have it exactly the same, but the emphasised word it not at the beginning, but at the end. Well... sometimes at the beginning, it depends on the context, but it is mostly at the end. You say it at the beginning when you want to add something later, like: "Ciebie kocham, a jej nienawidzę" (i love you, but i hate her) And if you put an emphasis on a word, you use the full form of it. You can say the basic form: "Kocham cię" (i love you), or "Kocham ciebie" (i love YOU), or "ja cię kocham" (i LOVE you), or even "Ja kocham ciebie" (I love YOU)(emphasis both on I and on YOU. when adding "ja", you are also making it noticable, you wouldn't use it normally). Oh, I almost forgot: If you say "to" (this) at the beginning, you get "To ciebie kocham" (It is YOU, who I love), you could use it in "To ciebie kocham, nie ją" (It is YOU, who i love, not HER) Such a simple thing, but you can play a lot with it!
Ooooh this is so cool 😲 Japanese does the same with Negatives by adding the は to the one being negated. (sorry. I'm not a native speaker of both) 学校に 行きませんでした не ходила в школу アンナが 行きませんでした Анна не ходила
it;s not the same as 'wa' usually is a subject, so you aren't just swapping words, but their roles also. While in russian you can change order, but not roles - getting same statement but with different vibes/context. Still there are different suffixes in japanese to accent on the subject, like 'mo' or 'ga' which can replace 'wa' => roles still the same, but context changed a bit. So overall your statement is correct, but in a bit different way :) PS: not a native in japanese also, correct me if i'm wrong.
Я конечно может чего не понял. Но в примере с "нет, тебя я люблю", ТЕБЯ должно идти как раз таки последним, если мы хотим сделать на этом акцент. А "тебя я люблю" как раз вообще не по русски звучит, если только мы не сделаем "искусственное" ударение на нем. Вот если вставит в начало "да", то тогда еще сойдёт.
Спасибо большое за твои видео! Я пересмотрел их все и со мной произошли невероятные изменения! Я родился в России, меня воспитали в русской семье и мне пришлось изучать английский в школе заново.
Excellent video! Your lessons are always very informative and insightful. Btw, in order to save a new generation from the trauma of butter/oil-confusion purchases ... it might be time for you to invent some new words for both oil and butter. Russian speakers everywhere will thank you for the new additions to Russian language !!! 😀
Попался мне значит видос с этого канала в рекомендации, где Федор объясняет в каких случаях стоит употреблять "Я", а в каких не стоит (Stop saying Я in Russian!). И в первом скетче я вижу как он стоит на фоне "Новосибирского Театра Оперы и Балета")). Прикольно осознавать, что англоязычный учитель русского с ютуба был или живет в моем городе 😄
Just as a side note in English we don’t always have to add words, instead we can emphasis the word to say it similarly. The word order stays the same but you’ll say you’re talking to a “friend” and it’ll convey a similar meaning
In Russian we also can emphasis words and that also has context. For example, if we assume that mother is telling a father about what the son is doing. In that example, word order “with a friend” - “he” - “speaks” means something around disbelief with a bit of negative context (I know he is not speaking with his friend, but girlfriend and am upset/frustrated that he does that instead of doing homework), while the regular word order “he” - “speaks” - “with a friend” with emphasis on “friend” shows a bit of disbelief with a positive context (like, for example he is talking with his girlfriend, I know that and I know he doesn’t want us to discuss that, but I am happy that he is talking with his girlfriend).
Добрый вечер! I'm russian and I really enjoy your channel. I want you to notice that you didn't mention some extra order to stress the word "Мама продукты купила" - it means the same "Продукты мама купила" Thank you, you help to improve English as well)
Твоё видео заставило меня задуматься, как я говорю на русском языке. Никогда не замечал такого эмоционального окраса, который определяется местом слова в предложении просто потому, что я вырос на русском Даже интересно, сколько ещё таких секретов есть в русском языке
Порядок слов влияет и на смысл: Мальчик вошел в комнату - The boy entered a room В комнату вошел мальчик - A boy entered the room Вошел (как то раз) мальчик в комнату - ... a boy entered a room
@@4sat564 когда мы ставим the перед существительным, мы подразумеваем, что тот, кому мы это все говорим, в курсе, о ком/чем речь. В русском языке, если таким существительным в предложении является дополнение, мы ставим его в начало. Это, как раз, и нужно для того, чтобы весь возможный контекст лишними словами не поднимать.
If you can really change the words' order this much and it still makes sense, Russian must really be a fun language, because you can even use the words' order to communicate how you think about what you're saying. I really look forward to being good enough to start reading books in Russian. 😁
It can be this way in English. Your mom could answer "A friend, yeah,". And instead of just "I love YOU", you would answer "It's you I love." Well, it's very intuitive. Great video.
Hello, I hear your Spotify podcasts and I love them. The only thing is annoying me is when Victoria laugh loud because I’m on my AirPods and I become deaf hahahah. Keep your work on!
Great that you brought up the butter and oil word in Russian. How would you notice the difference in which of them to buy? Is there any specific context?
Thank you. I haven't heard this before 😊 But, once again this is easy to understand, because the same happens in Finnish language 🤔 люблю тебя = rakastan sinua тебя я люблю= sinua minä rakastan (I love you, not somebody else)
a better explanation of the i love you part is tebya ya loblo = its you that i love, denying other possibilities instead of just saying i love you, anyway thanks for the video very helpful indeed.
Can someone please tell me how this is applied in song-writing?I always thought Russian music was so deep and poetic because of the flexibility of word order, but because I didn't understand until this video that word emphasis was the reason for the flexibility, now I'm wondering if the song meaning was even deeper at times than I realized! Or do songwriters often change the word order simply to make the song rhyme and the meaning is still understood by the listener? Thank you!
Hungarian works in a similar way if one wants to emphasize something. The 'focus' is pronounced with a falling intonation and most often is the second word of the sentence.
I wonder if it makes text communication easier in Russian, since in English that change in meaning is usually communicated through tone or emphasis instead of a change in the actual sentence.
You know its kind of strange how there is a lot more vocabulary that I have in Russian, but I can't just summon the information to speak or to write, but I can recognize it and most of the time I know its meaning, but if I ramble it comes out and I'm like "What am I saying" takes me a minute to remember
Ну... На месте Ивана я бы сказал не "тебя я люблю", а "я тебя люблю" или же в прямом порядке (с логическим ударением на слове "тебя"). На слух некозисто звучит, когда короткие местоимения в именительном падеже ставят не на первое место в предложении. Это не ошибка, но на слух лучше
I get the point you're making but it's not true that you need to add extra words to change the meaning like that. It's all in voice intonation and body language. For instance: M- Who are you talking to? S- I'm just talking to a friend. M- A "friend" (she says with a sort of smirk and teasing tone of voice) In that sense, she didn't have to say "yeah right" out loud but her tone and facial expression clearly says "mhm sure, just a friend. You think you're sneaky". But enough of that. Amazing video and very interesting. It's cool to see how different cultures express themselves, Russian is such a fascinating and beautiful language.
Отличный урок это был! Спасибо огромное! Ты знаешь ли, что в много еврейских семьёй, они скажут по-английски, "You I like," или "You I love?" Это не много отличается от этого, с упражнениями 《Тебя я люблю》или 《Тебя мне нравится》. Это всё такое увлекательное! 😃😃😃😃
Друг, тебе надо получше разобраться с изменением окончаний существительных в разных падежах. Хоть я и носитель русского языка, но смысл твоего комментария я не понял😅
По поводу порядка слов в твоём комментарии: лучше всё-таки использовать прямой порядок слов в первом предложении "Это был отличный урок". В третьем предложении у тебя вопрос - здесь надо по аналогии с английским использовать обратный порядок слов "знаешь ли ты..." Ну и по мелочи: "вО многИХ еврейских семьЯХ (здесь запятая не нужна) они скажут..." "немного" - слитно "тЫ мне нравИШЬСЯ"
About the first sentence word order and the previous commenter: You can also say "Отличный это был урок". That kind of reflexes how you think when you make up the sentence on-the-spot. First, you say your brigjtest impression: "Отличный!" Then, you come up with the word to define the subject (or describe its other, not so bright, qualities). And as you do that, you say everything that's there just for the grammar and clarification - time tense, the "этот", etc... So the thinking goes like: Отличный! - это был... - урок. Or Урок!! - это был... отличный! Normally that thinking process is shorter than seconds. But imagine a drunk Russian whose thinking is impaired by alcohol. So this person struggles with grammar. In this case, he (or she) will say: Отличный ... эээ ... урок. Or Урок... эээ... отличный. P. S. If you speak like a determined person who does not want yo spend time on unnecessary grammar stuff? You just say boldly: Отличный урок! Or Урок отличный! That's not rude. In fact, if someone wants to write (or say) a loooong text, they start with such bold, short sentences. So as not to make an impression that they are old people who are going to talk forever. In fact the "Отличный урок это был" is a valid word order, as I remember. But it is mostly used by old people when they want to start a looooong story about their past :) P. P. S. All those advises aren't something to learn by heart. Just an insight into how our language reflects thoughts and feelings. In fact, every person thinks a little differently - so the word order that they use will be a little different. Especially that shows itself in long, complicated sentences. So don't try too hard to fit into schemes, models etc :)
You could also do this with English its just not as common. Like you could say "a friend you're talking to eh?" If you emphasize "a friend" then it will come across like you don't believe it...similar to Russian. Its all in the emphasis. Anyway love the channel. I'm still just trying to memorize the alphabet but I'm getting there.
bro that proves how much Arabic is close to Russian in the way of Word Order Specially with the example of butter n' oil like we literally say "Milk he said..." -- " لبن قال…" regardless on how hard is it in both tongues. man i love russian
Slavic languages have another structure. A friend of mine, instead of saying that Michael was rubbing the motor grader on the road, he said: Patrol is rubbing Michael on the road.
In your Russian examples, I thought I heard emphatic intonation when the emphatic word appeared first in the sentence; and the rest of the words dropped to a non-emphatic intonation. Is that true?
Use the construction {У меня} when what you have is known or obvious; e.g., I have two eyes, or I have a nose. Use the construction {У меня есть} when what you have is not known or obvious; e.g., I have a dog (since many people do not have dogs), or I have a wife/husband (since some people are not married). However, both of those last two examples could drop "есть", if it is known that you do, in fact, "have a dog" or "have a spouse."
We have nothing in Russia. Things and events are sent to us by higher forces for a while, they do not belong to us, we are not their owners, They are only temporarily near us🤣
@@G8rRayто не то чтобы правила. Я бы сказал, что конструкция "у меня" просто короче, чем "у меня есть". Только в этом их разница, а по смыслу они одинаковы абсолютно. UPD: Конструкция "у меня" более общая - она используется ещё и в других случаях, например, "у меня травма". Тут нельзя сказать "у меня есть травма". То есть я имею в виду, что спектр применения "у меня" гораздо шире, чем "у меня есть". Можно привести аналогию с числами: есть целые числа, а есть натуральные числа , которые являются подмножеством целых, но не наоборот. То есть 5 - и целое, и натуральное, а вот -5 - целое, но не натуральное.
It's very simple. Use у меня есть only if you wanna emphasize the fact of having something: У меня есть эта книга. (I have this book.) У меня есть деньги. (I have money.) У меня есть мечта. (I have a dream.) When it's not about the fact of having something, есть is not necessary: У меня красная машина. (My car is red. - it's about the color and the car is not necessarily yours) У меня много денег. (I have a lot of money. - it's about the amount) У меня новый телефон. (I have a new phone. - new is the key word here) When you have something that is not an actual object, есть is not necessary: У меня плохое зрение. (I have poor eyesight.) У меня гастрит. (I have gastritis.) У меня аллергия на рыбу. (I'm allergic to fish.) У меня серьёзные проблемы. (I have serious problems.)
The example on 4:35 sounds a little awkward. You can say this way and you will be understood, but in such situation, as a native I would just stress the word "тебя". Not someone there, namely you.
Наверное, стоило упомянуть, что меняя порядок слов, уж очень легко начать звучать "поэтично". Как пример, перепишу свой же комментарий: Стоило упомянуть, наверное, Что слов меняя порядок, Легко уж очень поэтично Звучать начать Что, конечно, нисколько ее меняет смысла предложения, но звучит так, будто бы я на вечере поэзии)
SVO OVS OSV SOV VOS VSO It's kinda like Latin? :D Of course, my native Swedish is 100% SVO. No exceptions. Maybe some allowances for poetry but not really. So it's interesting for me to consider a language where word order can be mixed up. Am I on the right track if I think something like "Мама купила продукты" answers the question "who bought the produce?" then? I just realized we kind of do that in Swedish too: "Talar du franska?" "Nej, tyska talar jag". This is OVS overriding SVO in order to emphasize that I don't speak French but I *do* speak German. It works, but it is a bit archaic. I don't think young Swedes talk like that.
Thanks Fedor, this is so interesting because I have been taught that the main reason to deviate from the usual SVO word order is to put the new information last. How does this reconcile with putting the most important item first (genuine question)?
Whoever learns Russian, i love you. Thanks for learning our language even after the beginning of that horrible war 😮❤😮
I do. About 300 Mio people speak russian all around the globe, but how many of them started war? I think that's a tiny percentage. Also speaking the same languages get's us become closer and understand others better, which helps to solve and to avoid war. English is usefull to get the message, but learning russian helps to understand the culture, which adds up to what one said. And there are so many ukrainian that speak russian, too. I believe, it's even more important to learn russian these days, than ever before. ❤
@@H-DAСпасибо❤️ Очень приятно такое читать
😭❤❤Thank you@@H-DA
Спасибо. ❤
I've been learning for 3 months, I've studied hard and bought a book in russian from Dobstoesky!!
I'm so excited to learn this absolutely amazing language!!
To me, this is one of the great beauties of Russian and other highly inflected languages. You can almost toss the words into the air, say them in whatever order they fall to the ground, and the sentence will make sense. Okay, not always and sometimes it sounds silly, but word order is much more fluid in Russian than in English.
Agreed. But I would say: word order in Russian is more *flexible than in English.
Agree! I speak Spanish and I always thought that the order in English does not correspond with the logical line of thought, as if it were backwards.
It sounds more literary (which adds some silliness actually) when using non standart word order. Of course most of sentences will make sense but will sound like you are a poet or Yoda (atleast in Russian version he commonly uses unusual orders and sounds more "majestic")
Hehe, yeah, its exactly why english a little bit harder to learn for us (and punctuation, we put commas literally everywhere)
@@AngelaRodhas Funny, but as an American English speaker I have studied some Spanish and always thought your language was backwards to my line of thought. Language really shapes the way we think more than we realize at times
Конечно же этот комментарий не для того, чтобы нагнать трафика, но всё ещё я хочу выразить искреннюю благодарность за то, как ты чётко и достаточно внятно говоришь по-английски, так гораздо проще учиться понимать английскую речь лучше. И да, получается иронично, но твой контент позволяет улучшать навыки не только ищучающим русский, но и изучающим английский)0)
Аналогично) несложная лексика позволяет тренироваться воспринимать на слух английскую речь
good luck studying english
сейм
That's actually pretty smart. 😀 Good luck studying Английский языка. 😊
*Русскоязычный человек:* Пойду объясню русский язык иностранцам
*Все русскоязычные люди интернета:* Мы слушаем (◕ ‿ ◕✿)
😂😂😂😂
Жиза🙂
Кто зачем, кто-то просто слушает, а кто знает английский, тот ещё и помогает объяснять)
Я люблю это (я не русский человеком)
I took a year of beginner Russian at the local university about 4-5 years ago, and have been following your channel and trying to learn on my own since. I could NEVER understand the logic of word order in Russian conversation, such as; WHY DO THEY SAY THINGS BACKWARD???? (at times). You've finally solved one of the GREATEST mysteries about Russian language that have perplexed me for so long! Thank you so much!
Мы когда изучали английский такая же была задница
@@r3pa152 да-да ) долго приходилось понимать, почему нельзя просто взять и расставить слова в любом порядке. Yeah-yeah, It took a lot of time to understand why we can't just put the words in the order we want to
Когда я учила английский, меня злило то что я не могу расставить слова так как хочу
У меня была такая же проблема когда я учил англиский, я так один момент заебался учить этот гребаный язык
Agreed! 🙂
Всё время видео:
- Она отказала мне. Сказала что любит тебя. Думает что любит тебя!
- Да она не может любить меня!
- Да я люблю тебяяяя!
Ахах, да, есть такое😅
😂😂😂
Da ya lublu tebya😄😄😄😄🤣
Спасибо, что ты снимаешь ролики не только для начинающих. Этот ролик очень полезен для тех, которые уже отлично понимают русский язык, но не знаю негласные правила. Ты выражаешь словами то, что ф чувствую, когда слушаю что-то на русском, но не могу так говорить сама.
This is very interesting and helpful! When it's written text, sometimes you would bold words in a sentence to emphasize something, or just say it louder. Like, "Why would you *buy* that?" vs "Why would you buy *that* ?"
Learning that you can restructure your sentences to convey that information without tone of voice is cool. The Russian language is very versatile this way. Спасиба!
For some folks it's easier to understand the following way:
Я тебя люблю = I love you.
тебя Я люблю = YOU are the one I love.
Тебя Я люблю - I'm the person who loves you. Depends on accent
currently learning Russian... Thanks a lot, your videos help a lot. It's such a hard language to learn tho 😭
As a Russian, I can tell you, that not all Russians know well their language😂😂😂 So, you are not alone, ahaha
Don't give up! You can do it 💪
Comforting news! 😀 Thank you !@@andromedagalayxy6580
Успехов!
Seriously, this channel has changed my learning progress. Very thankful for it from Brazil
Your examples from 7:12 on remind me of times I've encountered this word order (OSV) in Russian before, and thought to myself, "Ah yes, when Russian goes Yoda-speak" 😉 - but now I properly understand why, so thanks for that.
I like it how TH-cam recommend for me a video about the exact thing that I was thinking about just 2 hours ago without even searching. And the common thing between these videos that they are all made by the intelligent Fedor 🙌
As someone who grew up bilingual as a child, which later evolved into receptive bilingualism, I always struggled with Russian sentence structure because I knew it was quite flexible, yet I often found myself not sounding natural. There was always something off, which was frustrating. English, on the other hand, was somehow easier for me to grasp.
This difficulty persisted, especially since I later grew up learning (and sometimes forgetting) four languages simultaneously. The grammar of those languages still gets mixed up in my brain. Videos like these are incredibly helpful to me.
а можно этот преподаватель будет учить и в обратную сторону? Уж больно круто он все объясняет. Даже объясняя русский англоязычной аудитории можно многому научиться, а если было бы наоборот, то я бы вообще пересматривал каждый видос по 5 раз))
This seems akin to emphasing words in a sentence in English. Like saying, "I didn't steal HER horse" instead of "I didn't steal her HORSE" or "I didn't STEAL her horse"
'I didn't steal HER horse', is like saying, 'I didn't steal a horse from her'.
'I didn't steal her HORSE', implies that you stole something else from her.
'I didn't STEAL her horse', implies you didn't steal it, but borrowed the horse. It's nice to understand this as English as a second language, but I can see why it's so difficult for others to learn English. :(
russians also usually change the meaning of what they say by emphasizing words.
it is true that in russian you can rearrange words in any order. it's just that some word order will sound strange and unnatural.
and even so, the meaning will still depend on the intonation, not the order of the words.
@SirLynel Actually, the same thing is used in Russian too
I think the best analogy in English for "Тебя я люблю" is "It is YOU who I love". Pretty much the same emphasis, just put a bit differently grammatically
It`s just another way to do that in russian. because you can still emphasise words even in regular order. "Я люблю тебя"(I love you), "Я люблю ТЕБЯ"(i love YOU)
I've always wondered if word order matters in Russian. Thank you 🙏
Мне так нравятся иностранцы, изучающие русский язык!!!
Я люблю вас, вас люблю я, люблю я вас!
Хехехе😅❤
It should be noted that this is true mostly for an informal speech. So if you write an article in Russian, you not always can use same tricks.
because articles are emotionless
Always so nicely explained! Спасибо Фёдор 🙏
I think we also do this in English to some extent, “I love you” could be changed to “it is YOU that I love”, if you wanted to contrast your love for someone over someone else. It’s not something I have thought about before though, my Russian teachers always just say that word order doesn’t matter but I am still a beginner.
Probably they say that it doesn't matter because it doesn't change sense of sentence, just make some emphasis which in most cases in emotional layer of language rather than in grammar. So to understand it you need some basic knowledge like from this video and just a lot of experience to properly get point of order changes. Even speakers hardly explain it because it something we don't really think, we just feel it ;)
This is super interesting. Great to see things so clearly explained
Always enjoying and learning from your excellent videos. 🍁
Where are you from?
Я же не одна смотрю иакие видео не только , чтобы разобраться в английском , но и чтобы помочь людям в комментариях чуточку разобраться в некоторых аспектах русского языка? :)
Ахах, жиза, это как будто младшему брату/сестре с домашкой помогаешь
А мне интересно смотреть, т.к. внезапно узнаёшь новое про собственный язык :)
О многих вещах просто не задумываешься. Что-то конечно изучается в школе на уроках русского и литературы, но либо уже забылось, либо такие "очевидные" (для того у кого русский - родной) вещи даже не изучаются.
Заметьте также, слов порядок меняет интонацию их не меньше, чем окрас.
А также, текст один и тот же перестроить образом можно таким, что сам носитель его не сразу разберёт.
Если не писатель вы, пользоваться лучше комбинацией обычной, ненароком дабы читателя не взбесить)
что-то заигрался я с порядком этим XD
Литературненько так. ;) веком 19 навеяло.
Секрет должен ли я вам открыть? Великий Магистр Ордена Джедаев я. Работу эту выиграл в лотерее, так вы думаете? «Как вы узнали, как вы узнали, мастер Йода?» Знает мастер Йода все это. Работа это его.
Извольте здравия комментаторам выше всем пожелать. Интеллектуалов количество немалое увидеть приятно на Ютуба просторах англоязычного. Поймут хотелось надеяться бы иностранцы спич незамысловатый мой. Всем бобра))
@@katehok9921 боюсь, бобёр тот, вами упомянутый, в не меньший ступор введёт людей, кому язык русский не родной с рождения. Однако, смекалка помочь им догадаться может.)
@@milaos8787 Чувство неоднозначное испытываю я, издеваюсь над детьми будто, извращая слов в речи порядок своей. Ребятам хватает и так сложностей в языка русского изучении
This is very very helpful. Thank you
чел, спасибо. Ты помог выучить Русский опять, после того как я выучил Английский и забыл Русский. Ты мой герой
These make completely intuitive sense to me as an exclusively native anglophone. We do have some similar features, even without adding words but with reärranging them, although intonation conveys a lot. I feel much more confident about this topic now. Спасибо!
Very much agreed.
Thank you for this video, it cleared up for me a little bit why the word order in two sentences like я тебя люблю, and ты мне нравишься are in the order that they are in!
Спасибо! Word order was frustrating me a LOT, but this makes it so much easier to understand.
Its very interesting how russian rearrange the sentence for tone changes that english use. After all sarcasm and discontent can be expressed through tone and mimicry in english.
Честно, я не имею понятия зачем смотрю твои видеоролики, являясь носителем русского языка :D
Тоже. Но всё таки интересно.
Харизма Федора 😂
Очень удобно учиться воспринимать английскую речь на слух: говорит размеренно, несложная лексика - самое то))
Мне есть что ответить :) У меня так называемая "начитанная" грамотность - с детства много читаю и обладаю хорошей зрительной памятью. В результате знаю как правильно пишутся слова и составляются предложения, но не знаю почему. Эти простые уроки помогают лучше узнать родной язык.
This is an EXCELLENT video! So helpful.
Excellent video ! From a French Guy learning Russian ;)
I know it is a video about russian, but i have an interesting fact: In polish language we have it exactly the same, but the emphasised word it not at the beginning, but at the end. Well... sometimes at the beginning, it depends on the context, but it is mostly at the end. You say it at the beginning when you want to add something later, like: "Ciebie kocham, a jej nienawidzę" (i love you, but i hate her) And if you put an emphasis on a word, you use the full form of it. You can say the basic form: "Kocham cię" (i love you), or "Kocham ciebie" (i love YOU), or "ja cię kocham" (i LOVE you), or even "Ja kocham ciebie" (I love YOU)(emphasis both on I and on YOU. when adding "ja", you are also making it noticable, you wouldn't use it normally). Oh, I almost forgot: If you say "to" (this) at the beginning, you get "To ciebie kocham" (It is YOU, who I love), you could use it in "To ciebie kocham, nie ją" (It is YOU, who i love, not HER) Such a simple thing, but you can play a lot with it!
What language is more difficult Czech or Poland? (Or Polish, sorry if I'm wrong)
In fact, in Russian emphasied word cab be anywhere too
In my region for example, the most important word is usually at the end,
In fact, in Russian emphasied word cab be anywhere too
In my region for example, the most important word is usually at the end,
In fact, in Russian emphasied word cab be anywhere too
In my region for example, the most important word is usually at the end,
In fact, in Russian emphasied word cab be anywhere too
In my region for example, the most important word is usually at the end,
Ooooh this is so cool 😲
Japanese does the same with Negatives by adding the は to the one being negated.
(sorry. I'm not a native speaker of both)
学校に 行きませんでした
не ходила в школу
アンナが 行きませんでした
Анна не ходила
it;s not the same as 'wa' usually is a subject, so you aren't just swapping words, but their roles also. While in russian you can change order, but not roles - getting same statement but with different vibes/context.
Still there are different suffixes in japanese to accent on the subject, like 'mo' or 'ga' which can replace 'wa' => roles still the same, but context changed a bit. So overall your statement is correct, but in a bit different way :)
PS: not a native in japanese also, correct me if i'm wrong.
Пока многие учат русский по этим видосам, я подтягиваю по ним свой английский лол)
Dude, you are just too handsome, and I really appreciate your taking the time to add subtitles in both English and Russian.
Best explanation of this EVER!!!!!! 🙌
Я конечно может чего не понял. Но в примере с "нет, тебя я люблю", ТЕБЯ должно идти как раз таки последним, если мы хотим сделать на этом акцент. А "тебя я люблю" как раз вообще не по русски звучит, если только мы не сделаем "искусственное" ударение на нем. Вот если вставит в начало "да", то тогда еще сойдёт.
Absolutely beatiful video, thank you!
I love your enthusiasm to teach English 👍
You are by far the best teacher! Amazing. I will soon afford and join your course
Тебя люблю я = It's you whom I love
In some aspects, very similar to German.
Ты тоже немец, изучающий русский?
я, как русская, изучающая немецкий, хочу тоже подать голос 😄
@@Madam_Samogonni Macht dir das Lernen von deutsch Spaß? :)
как же круто что этот ролик попал ко мне в рекомендации! теперь ты мой любимый ютубер! (по твоим роликам я учу английский)
Спасибо большое за твои видео! Я пересмотрел их все и со мной произошли невероятные изменения! Я родился в России, меня воспитали в русской семье и мне пришлось изучать английский в школе заново.
You are the nicest person I have ever met.
Excellent video! Your lessons are always very informative and insightful. Btw, in order to save a new generation from the trauma of butter/oil-confusion purchases ... it might be time for you to invent some new words for both oil and butter. Russian speakers everywhere will thank you for the new additions to Russian language !!! 😀
Попался мне значит видос с этого канала в рекомендации, где Федор объясняет в каких случаях стоит употреблять "Я", а в каких не стоит (Stop saying Я in Russian!). И в первом скетче я вижу как он стоит на фоне "Новосибирского Театра Оперы и Балета")). Прикольно осознавать, что англоязычный учитель русского с ютуба был или живет в моем городе 😄
This is one of the many advantages of all the Cases-having Languages... 😍
It is YOU that (whom) I love.
Just as a side note in English we don’t always have to add words, instead we can emphasis the word to say it similarly. The word order stays the same but you’ll say you’re talking to a “friend” and it’ll convey a similar meaning
In Russian we also can emphasis words and that also has context. For example, if we assume that mother is telling a father about what the son is doing. In that example, word order “with a friend” - “he” - “speaks” means something around disbelief with a bit of negative context (I know he is not speaking with his friend, but girlfriend and am upset/frustrated that he does that instead of doing homework), while the regular word order “he” - “speaks” - “with a friend” with emphasis on “friend” shows a bit of disbelief with a positive context (like, for example he is talking with his girlfriend, I know that and I know he doesn’t want us to discuss that, but I am happy that he is talking with his girlfriend).
@@kmdsummonthis is so interesting, thank you!
True.
Добрый вечер! I'm russian and I really enjoy your channel. I want you to notice that you didn't mention some extra order to stress the word "Мама продукты купила" - it means the same "Продукты мама купила"
Thank you, you help to improve English as well)
Твоё видео заставило меня задуматься, как я говорю на русском языке. Никогда не замечал такого эмоционального окраса, который определяется местом слова в предложении просто потому, что я вырос на русском
Даже интересно, сколько ещё таких секретов есть в русском языке
Порядок слов влияет и на смысл:
Мальчик вошел в комнату - The boy entered a room
В комнату вошел мальчик - A boy entered the room
Вошел (как то раз) мальчик в комнату - ... a boy entered a room
Смысл меняется только в определённых контекстах. Все эти предложения в отрыве от оного можно перевести на английский как с a так и с the
@@4sat564 когда мы ставим the перед существительным, мы подразумеваем, что тот, кому мы это все говорим, в курсе, о ком/чем речь. В русском языке, если таким существительным в предложении является дополнение, мы ставим его в начало. Это, как раз, и нужно для того, чтобы весь возможный контекст лишними словами не поднимать.
@@mx9622 всё правильно. Иными словами, тема и рема предложения
If you can really change the words' order this much and it still makes sense, Russian must really be a fun language, because you can even use the words' order to communicate how you think about what you're saying. I really look forward to being good enough to start reading books in Russian. 😁
It can be this way in English. Your mom could answer "A friend, yeah,". And instead of just "I love YOU", you would answer "It's you I love." Well, it's very intuitive. Great video.
The amount of times I've wondered about word order in Russian, i simply use the default version. Thanks soo mych for this helpful video 😁😁😁
I definitely learned from this lesson
Very interesting... Thanks a lot
is there a way to specify which kind of масло to buy?
This video is really informative!
I ❤ this channel!!!!
Hello, I hear your Spotify podcasts and I love them. The only thing is annoying me is when Victoria laugh loud because I’m on my AirPods and I become deaf hahahah. Keep your work on!
Fantastic language
I should also mention that "verb - subject ..." and so on structure what you would typically use in Russian anecdotes.
Да, также часто в сказках встречается такой порядок слов
Great that you brought up the butter and oil word in Russian. How would you notice the difference in which of them to buy? Is there any specific context?
Просто говори: "бутылкa масла" (for oil) или "пачка масла" (for butter)
Ну либо говори полностью - "сливочное масло" или "подсолнечное масло"
@@4ntereo293 большое спасибо
Perfect. Any language I learn is going to be crammed into English word order. Makes it easier.
we change the word order for emphasis in English sometimes too! interesting 🤔
Thank you. I haven't heard this before 😊
But, once again this is easy to understand, because the same happens in Finnish language 🤔
люблю тебя = rakastan sinua
тебя я люблю= sinua minä rakastan (I love you, not somebody else)
Could you please make a lesson three for the “phrases for beginners”
a better explanation of the i love you part is tebya ya loblo = its you that i love, denying other possibilities instead of just saying i love you, anyway thanks for the video very helpful indeed.
Can someone please tell me how this is applied in song-writing?I always thought Russian music was so deep and poetic because of the flexibility of word order, but because I didn't understand until this video that word emphasis was the reason for the flexibility, now I'm wondering if the song meaning was even deeper at times than I realized! Or do songwriters often change the word order simply to make the song rhyme and the meaning is still understood by the listener? Thank you!
@@sergeilunev2244 I really appreciate your detailed and very insightful response - Thank you!!
Oh no, was the reply deleted? I'm curious as well.
Hungarian works in a similar way if one wants to emphasize something. The 'focus' is pronounced with a falling intonation and most often is the second word of the sentence.
Love the graphics!!!!!!!
I wonder if it makes text communication easier in Russian, since in English that change in meaning is usually communicated through tone or emphasis instead of a change in the actual sentence.
You know its kind of strange how there is a lot more vocabulary that I have in Russian, but I can't just summon the information to speak or to write, but I can recognize it and most of the time I know its meaning, but if I ramble it comes out and I'm like "What am I saying" takes me a minute to remember
Ну... На месте Ивана я бы сказал не "тебя я люблю", а "я тебя люблю" или же в прямом порядке (с логическим ударением на слове "тебя"). На слух некозисто звучит, когда короткие местоимения в именительном падеже ставят не на первое место в предложении. Это не ошибка, но на слух лучше
I get the point you're making but it's not true that you need to add extra words to change the meaning like that. It's all in voice intonation and body language.
For instance:
M- Who are you talking to?
S- I'm just talking to a friend.
M- A "friend" (she says with a sort of smirk and teasing tone of voice)
In that sense, she didn't have to say "yeah right" out loud but her tone and facial expression clearly says "mhm sure, just a friend. You think you're sneaky".
But enough of that. Amazing video and very interesting. It's cool to see how different cultures express themselves, Russian is such a fascinating and beautiful language.
Отличный урок это был! Спасибо огромное! Ты знаешь ли, что в много еврейских семьёй, они скажут по-английски, "You I like," или "You I love?" Это не много отличается от этого, с упражнениями 《Тебя я люблю》или 《Тебя мне нравится》. Это всё такое увлекательное! 😃😃😃😃
Друг, тебе надо получше разобраться с изменением окончаний существительных в разных падежах. Хоть я и носитель русского языка, но смысл твоего комментария я не понял😅
По поводу порядка слов в твоём комментарии: лучше всё-таки использовать прямой порядок слов в первом предложении "Это был отличный урок". В третьем предложении у тебя вопрос - здесь надо по аналогии с английским использовать обратный порядок слов "знаешь ли ты..."
Ну и по мелочи: "вО многИХ еврейских семьЯХ (здесь запятая не нужна) они скажут..."
"немного" - слитно
"тЫ мне нравИШЬСЯ"
About the first sentence word order and the previous commenter:
You can also say "Отличный это был урок".
That kind of reflexes how you think when you make up the sentence on-the-spot.
First, you say your brigjtest impression: "Отличный!" Then, you come up with the word to define the subject (or describe its other, not so bright, qualities). And as you do that, you say everything that's there just for the grammar and clarification - time tense, the "этот", etc...
So the thinking goes like:
Отличный! - это был... - урок.
Or
Урок!! - это был... отличный!
Normally that thinking process is shorter than seconds. But imagine a drunk Russian whose thinking is impaired by alcohol. So this person struggles with grammar. In this case, he (or she) will say:
Отличный ... эээ ... урок.
Or
Урок... эээ... отличный.
P. S. If you speak like a determined person who does not want yo spend time on unnecessary grammar stuff? You just say boldly:
Отличный урок!
Or
Урок отличный!
That's not rude. In fact, if someone wants to write (or say) a loooong text, they start with such bold, short sentences. So as not to make an impression that they are old people who are going to talk forever.
In fact the "Отличный урок это был" is a valid word order, as I remember. But it is mostly used by old people when they want to start a looooong story about their past :)
P. P. S. All those advises aren't something to learn by heart. Just an insight into how our language reflects thoughts and feelings. In fact, every person thinks a little differently - so the word order that they use will be a little different. Especially that shows itself in long, complicated sentences. So don't try too hard to fit into schemes, models etc :)
P. S. Но вот в случае с падежами и родами следовать схемам и правилам действительно необходимо
You could also do this with English its just not as common. Like you could say "a friend you're talking to eh?" If you emphasize "a friend" then it will come across like you don't believe it...similar to Russian. Its all in the emphasis. Anyway love the channel. I'm still just trying to memorize the alphabet but I'm getting there.
bro that proves how much Arabic is close to Russian in the way of Word Order Specially with the example of butter n' oil
like we literally say "Milk he said..." -- " لبن قال…"
regardless on how hard is it in both tongues.
man i love russian
Slavic languages have another structure. A friend of mine, instead of saying that Michael was rubbing the motor grader on the road, he said: Patrol is rubbing Michael on the road.
Great video
In your Russian examples, I thought I heard emphatic intonation when the emphatic word appeared first in the sentence; and the rest of the words dropped to a non-emphatic intonation. Is that true?
Can someone please explain to me the difference between Этаж & Пол? I confuse them all of the time...
Этаж mean level or floor at meaning like level
Пол can mean also floor, but at meaning like ground
Other meaning of word пол is
sex(male or female)
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I‘m always surprised how much Russian and German have in common.
German is much "richer" than English
As a German learning Russian, I agree.
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@@nil_at Das ist sehr gut. 😊
Would you please make a video on the difference between у меня and y меня есть when to use the есть part and when not to 😊
Use the construction {У меня} when what you have is known or obvious; e.g., I have two eyes, or I have a nose.
Use the construction {У меня есть} when what you have is not known or obvious; e.g., I have a dog (since many people do not have dogs), or I have a wife/husband (since some people are not married). However, both of those last two examples could drop "есть", if it is known that you do, in fact, "have a dog" or "have a spouse."
@@G8rRay Great 👍 Thanks 😊
We have nothing in Russia. Things and events are sent to us by higher forces for a while, they do not belong to us, we are not their owners, They are only temporarily near us🤣
@@G8rRayто не то чтобы правила. Я бы сказал, что конструкция "у меня" просто короче, чем "у меня есть". Только в этом их разница, а по смыслу они одинаковы абсолютно.
UPD:
Конструкция "у меня" более общая - она используется ещё и в других случаях, например, "у меня травма". Тут нельзя сказать "у меня есть травма".
То есть я имею в виду, что спектр применения "у меня" гораздо шире, чем "у меня есть". Можно привести аналогию с числами: есть целые числа, а есть натуральные числа , которые являются подмножеством целых, но не наоборот. То есть 5 - и целое, и натуральное, а вот -5 - целое, но не натуральное.
It's very simple.
Use у меня есть only if you wanna emphasize the fact of having something:
У меня есть эта книга. (I have this book.)
У меня есть деньги. (I have money.)
У меня есть мечта. (I have a dream.)
When it's not about the fact of having something, есть is not necessary:
У меня красная машина. (My car is red. - it's about the color and the car is not necessarily yours)
У меня много денег. (I have a lot of money. - it's about the amount)
У меня новый телефон. (I have a new phone. - new is the key word here)
When you have something that is not an actual object, есть is not necessary:
У меня плохое зрение. (I have poor eyesight.)
У меня гастрит. (I have gastritis.)
У меня аллергия на рыбу. (I'm allergic to fish.)
У меня серьёзные проблемы. (I have serious problems.)
I watch a ton of your videos, and I don't remember most of the things I see. That's tough
do not confuse people, in russian word order has part of meaning like intonation, and default order is like common european SVO
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The example on 4:35 sounds a little awkward. You can say this way and you will be understood, but in such situation, as a native I would just stress the word "тебя". Not someone there, namely you.
Наверное, стоило упомянуть, что меняя порядок слов, уж очень легко начать звучать "поэтично".
Как пример, перепишу свой же комментарий:
Стоило упомянуть, наверное,
Что слов меняя порядок,
Легко уж очень поэтично
Звучать начать
Что, конечно, нисколько ее меняет смысла предложения, но звучит так, будто бы я на вечере поэзии)
woah I had no idea that Russian had features like this. cool!
So how did you differentiate between butter and oil?
Сливочное масло = butter, Растительное масло = oil
Don't forget about English peculiarities with word order in such sentences as "Where go you?" (a bit archaic, but still) and "How are you?".
Мне 1 кажется то что его смотрят больше русский чем англичане
SVO OVS OSV SOV VOS VSO
It's kinda like Latin? :D Of course, my native Swedish is 100% SVO. No exceptions. Maybe some allowances for poetry but not really. So it's interesting for me to consider a language where word order can be mixed up.
Am I on the right track if I think something like "Мама купила продукты" answers the question "who bought the produce?" then? I just realized we kind of do that in Swedish too: "Talar du franska?" "Nej, tyska talar jag". This is OVS overriding SVO in order to emphasize that I don't speak French but I *do* speak German. It works, but it is a bit archaic. I don't think young Swedes talk like that.
I would like to start learning some Scandinavian language
Thanks Fedor, this is so interesting because I have been taught that the main reason to deviate from the usual SVO word order is to put the new information last. How does this reconcile with putting the most important item first (genuine question)?
I t is not about adding new info, it is about putting more emotional stress on the word that goes first