Sevatar once again proving himself to be one of the most levelheaded in the room: “What else did you try to make things peaceful.” Kinda wish some of the other captains stood up to their Primarchs like this.
Well there is Kharn too but there is one person, a single mortal with more balls than every Astartes Legion combined and the Conqueror is her ship, you *WILL* do what she says when she says it. Even Angron.
I'd argue that Perturabo didn't hate the Iron Warriors. But he couldn't afford to love them. The purpose he was given by the Emperor all but forbade it. He had to throw them at fortifications that even other Primarchs would refuse to challenge or could not crack, and siege warfare is by its nature attritional warfare. His sons were going to die, by the score, no matter what he wanted or felt about it. But I don't fully believe he was ever able to fully bury his humanity. On some level, I do believe he did see himself as their father. A demanding one, but still their father. And I think centuries of watching them die in droves for victories that were never celebrated, never even properly thanked, is what really wore on his sanity.
I think it comes down to the extent to which they hated them. Perturabo was a brutal pragmatist and was more than willing to throw is sons into the meat grinder, but I don't think it was out of malice. Angron certainly didn't care about his legion since they weren't his brothers from the pits, but he had fleeting moments where he could acknowledge them. And for as flawed as their genefathers were, the 4th and 12th still tried to learn from & emulate them in some ways. That's not the case with Curze and the 8th. The Night Lords are scum, the very worst dregs of human society that never should have been granted the power they were given. For all of his cruelty and sadistic butchery, Curze believed there was a point to it, a lesson to be learned. A lesson that was lost on his sons, who merely saw becoming Astartes as a license to kill in whatever twisted ways they could think up without fear of reprisal. Given the choice Konrad probably would have blown up Nostramo long ago, before the legion could take recruits from it.
@@Dramatic_Gamingthe problem Kurze had was that the first few generations of marines from Nostramo were the kinda marines he wanted, but the longer he was away, and the more recruits he needed, meant that only the strongest, most savage boys became marines, and that’s when the hate began, but by then it was far too late, he couldn’t just return to Nostramo, he had to lead the Legion but day by day it became filled with the very scum he used to butcher at home, and by the time of the heresy, decades and centuries after he’d left, all that was left were the criminals and scum to fill his legions ranks Sevatar was right, he never taught them to be better Fear is an incredibly potent motivator, but when the thing you fear leaves, old habits return Had Kurze actually tried he might’ve created a world of Paladins, but in truth he liked the savagery, he craved the bloodshed, and the reason he hated his sons had very little to do with them, it was all about himself, and how much he despised what he was, he despised that he was a butcher, but he loved the slaughter, his legion exemplified the love of slaughter, but unlike Kurze they didn’t have the guilt and shame of it Kurze is possibly the only schizophrenic Primarch, there was the Kurze that Kurze believed he was and wanted to be, the Paladin of Justice, and the Kurze that he was in reality, the man obsessed with justice to the point of becoming a ruthless criminal who revelled in the pain he inflicted upon others He hated his Legion because his Legion was the honest reflection of who he was, and not the man he believed himself to be
A lot of people misinterpret ADB a lot when it comes to his works. They believe he's pro-chaos since he's done a lot of Traitor/Chaos Marine stories, but he always points out the fact that these guys are broken and just as deluded about themselves as many other loyalist marines. Like Talos' whole story in the Night Lords Trilogy was about him admitting what the Night Lords were and embracing it.
You familiar with his feats? Those balls need their own power pack so he can move anywhere. My guy has killed more captains of the 8th legion than most Dark Angels, was told to shut up by Magnus and Kurze simultaneously for managing to talk smart to both of them, has flown on top of a fighter jet into the Dark Angels flagship because his men were in there and he dueled the meat grinder that is Sigismund, arguably winning the match by cheating. I assume everyone has heard of the story about the overseer and the psyker girl but he was also the first one to say the battle cry of "death to the false Emperor", he hates daemon possessed marines, the elite of the 8th legion followed him purely due to their loyalty to him and he also kept a close eye on certain mortals working with the Night Lords who bore a certain familial resemblance. It's possible I'm just a bit of a fanboy but I like my morally complicated renegade marines (screw you Erebus, Argel Tal was better).
@@bosskaiju4834 Ok but killing everybody better than you doesn't make you good. It just lowers the bar until you qualify so I think the dislike is still justified. I like 30k Kharn as a character but 40k Kharn is basically just a sprinting natural disaster who blends named characters and serves as an obstacle the main characters have to avoid.
@@consolescrub4031 Erebus is supposed to be hateble, if yoou like him, they're is a problem. And I was mostly thinking about the 30k version of Kharn, (even if they're is nothing wrong with a guy who's just a walking natural disaster)
Ol' Sev was basically begging (as far as he could) for his father to elevate himself. He had Faith. He Believed. In Konrad Curze, but all he ever got was The Night Haunter.
The problem was that he was assaulting the very core of Konrad's being, of his ego, with the point he was making. You see, Konrad's "there was no other way" may ring like the hollow coping of a mad sadist, but in truth, it wasn't even all that bad of an approach considering how vile Nostramo was. Konrad was essentially saying "you have no right to judge" because on Nostramo, after eating a man's flesh and seeing his memories shortly after his arrival, Konrad saw the world through the wretched mind of a criminal, and this was often the case when he repeated the action. Yet so powerful was his need for order and justice, that he literally invented them on his own, despite being educated through the souls and memories of criminals all his life. Twisted it was, sure, but still the most effective approach for a place like Nostramo. That planet shaped him as much as he shaped it after conquering it, it seems almost laughable, how obvious it is that some higher power sabotaged Konrad's entire existence by picking that exact planet, a place he could thrive on, but in the most twisted way imaginable, a child cast into hell, naturally grown into a demon. Trust and safety are feelings that need to be learned, Konrad learned the exact opposite of that about humanity, and it was further cemented when Fulgrim told on him to the others, after being assigned as his mentor. I struggle to rise above such feelings after a fairly trivial life, I can only hope to imagine the impossibility of rising above it after a life like Konrad's.
The son he called for when madness had truly overcome him. Sevatar was a voice of reason within the VIIITH and to his Primarch. Sevatar could of held them together
Every time Kurze is reminded that Sevatar is dead in the books is heart wrenching. And despite the hatred of their father, they still weep at one last sight of his hololithic form in memory How did they make the baby-eating edgelords such compelling characters??
@Vinkhol The Nights Lords work as the Emperor intended. They were his terror weapon. The nails didn't drive Conrad and his legion to slaughter. Belief in false gods didn't drive the VIIIth to damnation. Nor was it ego or imagined slights. The Night Lords were an instrument of terror, and in many ways, they still are. Some will claim Magnus did nothing wrong, but in point of fact, the Night Lords truly did nothing wrong. Magnus had every chance to turn back from damnation, and he rejected it. Can we say the same for Conrad and his Night Lords.
@@VinkholThing is Konrad could see the future. He knew how Sevetar would die. It is legitimately possible that Sevetar wasn't dead but had just ditched the 8th to go do something else.
Sevatar and Talos are the reasons my Chaos army is the VIIIth Legion. In a way, the only "honest" Legions were the Night Lords and the World Eaters. They fully embraced what the Emporer wanted his Space Marines to be: unstoppable killers and fearmongers to bring the galaxy to his heel.
I looked away for a second and my man is scratching his forhead like has a powerclaw on. This content is intended to show and educate the acting process. You, sir, could make me watch the radio if you were on.
@@NaturallyRPVoiceoverKonrad's first words where you slowly drag your hand across your face, as if lost in memory for a second is beautiful embodiment of the character. It's like I can see him running his tongue over his sharpened teeth
One thing that Konrad failed to clarify, When he says "there was no other way", he's not saying it was the only option. He was saying "I knew nothing else but the methods I used."
@jmgonzales7701 of his teachers maybe. But you can't expect a person to approach a problem with skills they never learned. Curze did his best with what he had and knew, his real mistake was in never correcting it later. Although at that point you can argue he was in too deep anyway
this feels like a son who idolized his father grew up enough not only to see his imperfections but to be mature and brave enough to call out his bull crap
Based Sevatar calling out for all his posturing and “I had to “ Kurze choose to be the night haunter cause he liked it . Others had far worse worlds and didn’t resort to this barbarism and fear once no longer applied wanes
@@SilverWarrior95it's a matter of perspective I suppose, which would you rather be stuck on? A world full of criminal filth, or a world with warp beasts that hunt and kill the population for sport (caliban) a world that is basically one gigantic volcano with giant fire breathing vicious salamander monsters (nocturne) or maybe barbaros ( a world ruled and controlled by cruel chaos worshipping necromancers who regularly poisoned, killed and raised the dead to make them eat their own former family members in their own homes, or Medusa (Perturabo's) world where the most common cause of death was being worked to it in manufactorums, if you were lucky you died young by a machine accident, or you were unlucky and against all odds lived to old age, only to be cast out of killed when you simply could not work anymore, or maybe fenris where even in heavy winter gear, you would freeze to death in minutes at best, which would be better than being torn apart alive by wolves twice the size of horses and filled with more hatred than the most belligerent of chihuahua's, and that's assuming a kraken doesn't just eat you alive whole 😂 Nostramo was unquestionably a horrible, terrible world, but to say it was the worst isn't really true, many of the other primarchs landed on awful worlds too, it's just a matter of what you think is worse, so long as I am armed, I would at least try to survive Nostramo, where the worst you had to deal with were human psychopaths, fragile humans who could be downed with a single laspistol shot, but I would face one of those before I would wanna face warp beasts, fire breathing monsters, powerful evil necromancers, and so on, and that isn't even mentioning the sheer terror of living on Catachan, which of course isn't a primarch world but holy fucking eh batman! 😂
@@SilverWarrior95Considering Baal being a deathworld where humanity is barely surviving, Nostramo isn’t the worst. Sanguinius is basically proof that it is a skill issue on Kurze’s end.
Man, when you first get into Warhammer and you hear about the night lords you think it’s just a bunch of edge lord gore… but they have such a compelling and interesting drive
“It was the only way” seems to be a common theme - perhaps an ingrained flaw in the Emperor’s bloodline. He ultimately was no better than Curze…perhaps he was worse, even.
Sins of the Father, with each step weighed in blood and violence. No, Dorn, Fulgrim, Corax and even Malcador could not fathom the depths of Konrad's tortured mind and soul. But a thought: "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past" (1984 G. Orwell, 1948)?
That was fantastic! The voices were good, but your facial expression really brought the performance to life! You could see Curze and Sevatar in the emotion that you brought to both characters!
I was just talking about this conversation a few days ago. I have my reservations about the heresy stories, but sevetar is just so cool in whatever he shows up in you can't help but enjoy him. Excellent voice over as always my dude!
excellent this definitely shows the intense and interesting relationship between kurze and sevatar the latter being the only one to completely call his father out on his bs.
Having listened to your work on "Abyssal Edge", gotta say you are my favorite Sevatar of any of the black library narrators. If they have more of him in The Scouring I truly hope you're the one to voice him.
While I agree with Sevatar's points, I'd also like to point out how INSANE Nostromo society must have been to descend back into being Gotham on steroids just because Konrad left the planet and then send him as recruits the exact sort of people he despises most. I mean... did they really think Konrad wouldn't notice and _come back??_ Imagine you stayed under this crazy guy's rule for years, decades or centuries even, before the Emperor showed up. Imagine how out of your mind you must be to DARE to stray from what he commands after watching him do the "Radio Demon" bit on planetary scale! Hell, forget Konrad! What the fuck possessed Nostromo that, after seeing the guy's father and siblings arrive in a ray of gold that blinded people, they decided they could go back to the old ways? Would YOU wanna risk the wrath of a god-like being with that level of power and whose son spent the laws few years flaying every rapist jaywalker on the planet?! It's a sad thought that, out of all his brothers, Konrad really had no one in Nostromo. No parents (not even abusive bastards like Kor Phaeron for Lorgar or Necare for Mortarion, or opportunistic rulers like Dammekos to Perturabo), no friends even among the street urchins (which Horus had in Chtonian hive-gangers), not even loyal sidekicks and followers (like Angron's gladiators or Omegon's Space Pirates) or even proper education and job (like Magnus, Fulgrim and Perturabo). Just living in the streets and sewers, observing the hell-hole of a planet he landed on and becoming the only version of Hatred's Not-Important guy that's fully sympathetic. He didn't try any "better ways" because, frankly, he couldn't learn such a thing could even _exist._ He's like Lucy from Elfen Lied, Hansel and Gretel from Black Lagoon or Alois Trancy from Black Butler II.
God man, Sev really believed, didnt he? Its a sign not only of your exquisite portrayal but of the writing that i can sit here and feel something other than disgust for the 8th. These guys really never had a chance, they were damned the moment Kurze landed on Nostramo.
"I am going nowhere, Sire. Not without you." In the Forty-First Millenium, the sins of the father echo through the deeds of the sons. And the sons of the sons of the sons.
Dude you kill it always. I hope and pray you get to be on the space marine games or tv shows soon. Fallout is my game and it was huge success. So I’m sure warhammer the shows will be too. I love when you do primarch vs primarch
Kurze is such a perfectly tragic figure, so enslaved by his limited vision, and yet still it was a chain of his own making. There is something so horrifically human about him. Few if any have ever done the things he did, but everyone has been in his place. We all find ourselves, from time to time, so locked in on a limited idea of what we are capable of. Everyone has moments when, even in a world of freedom and choice, we cannot accept another way, chained as we are to our nature and our convictions. Konrad defined himself by that moment, he built his fortress upon it, and ultimately he died there. So convinced of his own inability to change course that even as his head was cleaved from his body, he saw it as vindication rather than defeat. Truly, only a primarch could be so tragically human, and yet so terribly inhuman.
PERFECT! I need more 40K voice acting. Please consider doing Shadows of the Past from beginning to end. Make it a 3 parter if you must. Your voice acting would be fantastic with the Word Bearers, Lorgar, and Corvus
Fantastic work as usual. Love your night lord stuff. If you ever have the time please check out simon spurrier, lord of the night. Its a terrific but underrated Night lords novel with some great monologues and dialogues that id love to hear your perform. ( even just read the first page, it gives you a good idea of the tone of the book)
"There was no other way!" Oh Konrad, how much you sound like the Emperor in that moment. And Sevatars criticism applies to him as well. The Emperor could have brought worlds into alignment without a bloody conquest through the stars, but no, it had to be fast and efficient. Was violence inevitable for some worlds? Of course. But in no way did he need to swathe through the human worlds and cultures like a scythe cutting through wheat and weeds, making little distinction to notice which he cut. Only to burn them all so all that was left was the stalks of worlds he deemed correct.
Will forever feel bad for Konrad. Constantly gets the short end of the stick and gets sassed by everyone and is expected not to go mad. Daddies boys like Lorgar and Horus go and ruin everything and still don't cop the same problems.
It's funny how the only Night Lord to truly believe in his father's philosophy was the most logically critical of it. Sevatar had no insecurities in his beliefs whatsoever.
Do you know the feeling when a bald girl steps on the stage, she starts to sing Janis Joplin and you immediately fall in love with her for the rest of your life? This guy is giving me the same vibes.
I live your voice for Konrad! however if I am to give one single small tip / suggestion: I think Konrad and his Legion would speak with a slavic accent (as that's where they take inspiration from in the real world). So I always hear them in my head like that. Other legions have similar accents: White scars Mongolian, Blood angels Bulgarian and the Thousand sons egyptian.
Ok, now I understand Curze and the NIGHT LORDS. “I HAD TO BE CRUEL! So people would learn not to be like me, but to be better than me! I had to be the villain they must overcome not BECOME!” What Curze did was understandable, but not justifiable nor defensible. We were meant to empathize with his acts and intentions, but hone in on his intentions and approach differently from his methods; but I honestly believe NOSTROMO is a scum of a planet, that the people instead followed Curze’s example and what they believe him to be rather than endeavor to be better, it is a planet devoid of morality, nobility and righteousness; it is a visage of what the Imperium would become: a bastardized dream of a better world.
The novels are doing a character assassination in several respects, turning many of the traitor primarchs into always-going-to-be-evil assholes instead of the best of the primarchs sabotaged by Chaos' machinations such that their virtues were deprived of what was needed for proper expression and they turned into vices. "Justice" is a very good thing, but being deprived of anyone to raise him and give context, and being in possibly the literal worst environment to grow up in twisted him.
Curze: *"THERE WAS NO OTHER WAY!"*
Sevatar: "Skill issue."
Legit nearly had an asthma attack at that. Also "sounds like a you problem" comes to mind.
Sevatar once again proving himself to be one of the most levelheaded in the room: “What else did you try to make things peaceful.” Kinda wish some of the other captains stood up to their Primarchs like this.
I'm surprised he wasn't turned into carpet for saying what he said.
Sevetar is a legend in his own broken way, this dude who is reciting that conversation is a god at his job
Well there is Kharn too but there is one person, a single mortal with more balls than every Astartes Legion combined and the Conqueror is her ship, you *WILL* do what she says when she says it. Even Angron.
@@NATEDOG Why would he? That defiance of his son in the face of his own Primarch is why Konrad liked him
@@NATEDOG Why would he? That defiance of his son in the face of his own Primarch is why Konrad liked him
"why are you the only primarch to hate his own legion?"
*angron and peter turbo look away.*
I'd argue that Perturabo didn't hate the Iron Warriors. But he couldn't afford to love them. The purpose he was given by the Emperor all but forbade it. He had to throw them at fortifications that even other Primarchs would refuse to challenge or could not crack, and siege warfare is by its nature attritional warfare. His sons were going to die, by the score, no matter what he wanted or felt about it.
But I don't fully believe he was ever able to fully bury his humanity. On some level, I do believe he did see himself as their father. A demanding one, but still their father. And I think centuries of watching them die in droves for victories that were never celebrated, never even properly thanked, is what really wore on his sanity.
Angry Ron and Peter Turbo, you mean.
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I think it comes down to the extent to which they hated them. Perturabo was a brutal pragmatist and was more than willing to throw is sons into the meat grinder, but I don't think it was out of malice. Angron certainly didn't care about his legion since they weren't his brothers from the pits, but he had fleeting moments where he could acknowledge them. And for as flawed as their genefathers were, the 4th and 12th still tried to learn from & emulate them in some ways.
That's not the case with Curze and the 8th. The Night Lords are scum, the very worst dregs of human society that never should have been granted the power they were given. For all of his cruelty and sadistic butchery, Curze believed there was a point to it, a lesson to be learned. A lesson that was lost on his sons, who merely saw becoming Astartes as a license to kill in whatever twisted ways they could think up without fear of reprisal. Given the choice Konrad probably would have blown up Nostramo long ago, before the legion could take recruits from it.
@@Dramatic_Gamingthe problem Kurze had was that the first few generations of marines from Nostramo were the kinda marines he wanted, but the longer he was away, and the more recruits he needed, meant that only the strongest, most savage boys became marines, and that’s when the hate began, but by then it was far too late, he couldn’t just return to Nostramo, he had to lead the Legion but day by day it became filled with the very scum he used to butcher at home, and by the time of the heresy, decades and centuries after he’d left, all that was left were the criminals and scum to fill his legions ranks
Sevatar was right, he never taught them to be better
Fear is an incredibly potent motivator, but when the thing you fear leaves, old habits return
Had Kurze actually tried he might’ve created a world of Paladins, but in truth he liked the savagery, he craved the bloodshed, and the reason he hated his sons had very little to do with them, it was all about himself, and how much he despised what he was, he despised that he was a butcher, but he loved the slaughter, his legion exemplified the love of slaughter, but unlike Kurze they didn’t have the guilt and shame of it
Kurze is possibly the only schizophrenic Primarch, there was the Kurze that Kurze believed he was and wanted to be, the Paladin of Justice, and the Kurze that he was in reality, the man obsessed with justice to the point of becoming a ruthless criminal who revelled in the pain he inflicted upon others
He hated his Legion because his Legion was the honest reflection of who he was, and not the man he believed himself to be
@@weirdferretthingThank you
“No? What other ways did you try?”
And there, RIGHT THERE, is why I love Dembski-Bowden and his interpretation of the Night Lords so much.
This is actually from Guy Haley's Konrad Curze: The Night Haunter, not ADB.
@@nedkoes No, it's from Prince of Crows by ADB.
A lot of people misinterpret ADB a lot when it comes to his works. They believe he's pro-chaos since he's done a lot of Traitor/Chaos Marine stories, but he always points out the fact that these guys are broken and just as deluded about themselves as many other loyalist marines. Like Talos' whole story in the Night Lords Trilogy was about him admitting what the Night Lords were and embracing it.
@@harmonicajay91 Thanks for the knowledge, found me a new read!
@@harmonicajay91 He's pro-Chaos because he's anti-Imperium.
Beautifully voiced. Sevatar has some serious balls on him to address the Night Haunter in such a manner.
I would say balls and heart. He truly loves his Primarch and can't stand to be so far away from him.
You familiar with his feats? Those balls need their own power pack so he can move anywhere. My guy has killed more captains of the 8th legion than most Dark Angels, was told to shut up by Magnus and Kurze simultaneously for managing to talk smart to both of them, has flown on top of a fighter jet into the Dark Angels flagship because his men were in there and he dueled the meat grinder that is Sigismund, arguably winning the match by cheating. I assume everyone has heard of the story about the overseer and the psyker girl but he was also the first one to say the battle cry of "death to the false Emperor", he hates daemon possessed marines, the elite of the 8th legion followed him purely due to their loyalty to him and he also kept a close eye on certain mortals working with the Night Lords who bore a certain familial resemblance. It's possible I'm just a bit of a fanboy but I like my morally complicated renegade marines (screw you Erebus, Argel Tal was better).
@@consolescrub4031 You're right, Arghel Tal was better, that was exactly why Erebus killed him. Also Sevatar is a legend, but I prefer Kharn
@@bosskaiju4834 Ok but killing everybody better than you doesn't make you good. It just lowers the bar until you qualify so I think the dislike is still justified. I like 30k Kharn as a character but 40k Kharn is basically just a sprinting natural disaster who blends named characters and serves as an obstacle the main characters have to avoid.
@@consolescrub4031 Erebus is supposed to be hateble, if yoou like him, they're is a problem. And I was mostly thinking about the 30k version of Kharn, (even if they're is nothing wrong with a guy who's just a walking natural disaster)
Ol' Sev was basically begging (as far as he could) for his father to elevate himself.
He had Faith.
He Believed.
In Konrad Curze, but all he ever got was The Night Haunter.
The problem was that he was assaulting the very core of Konrad's being, of his ego, with the point he was making.
You see, Konrad's "there was no other way" may ring like the hollow coping of a mad sadist, but in truth, it wasn't even all that bad of an approach considering how vile Nostramo was.
Konrad was essentially saying "you have no right to judge" because on Nostramo, after eating a man's flesh and seeing his memories shortly after his arrival, Konrad saw the world through the wretched mind of a criminal, and this was often the case when he repeated the action. Yet so powerful was his need for order and justice, that he literally invented them on his own, despite being educated through the souls and memories of criminals all his life. Twisted it was, sure, but still the most effective approach for a place like Nostramo.
That planet shaped him as much as he shaped it after conquering it, it seems almost laughable, how obvious it is that some higher power sabotaged Konrad's entire existence by picking that exact planet, a place he could thrive on, but in the most twisted way imaginable, a child cast into hell, naturally grown into a demon.
Trust and safety are feelings that need to be learned, Konrad learned the exact opposite of that about humanity, and it was further cemented when Fulgrim told on him to the others, after being assigned as his mentor.
I struggle to rise above such feelings after a fairly trivial life, I can only hope to imagine the impossibility of rising above it after a life like Konrad's.
@@TheAlexRhodes out of all the teacher he got it was fulgrim.... ineffective
The son he called for when madness had truly overcome him. Sevatar was a voice of reason within the VIIITH and to his Primarch. Sevatar could of held them together
Every time Kurze is reminded that Sevatar is dead in the books is heart wrenching. And despite the hatred of their father, they still weep at one last sight of his hololithic form in memory
How did they make the baby-eating edgelords such compelling characters??
@Vinkhol The Nights Lords work as the Emperor intended. They were his terror weapon. The nails didn't drive Conrad and his legion to slaughter. Belief in false gods didn't drive the VIIIth to damnation. Nor was it ego or imagined slights. The Night Lords were an instrument of terror, and in many ways, they still are. Some will claim Magnus did nothing wrong, but in point of fact, the Night Lords truly did nothing wrong. Magnus had every chance to turn back from damnation, and he rejected it. Can we say the same for Conrad and his Night Lords.
@@VinkholThing is Konrad could see the future. He knew how Sevetar would die. It is legitimately possible that Sevetar wasn't dead but had just ditched the 8th to go do something else.
Sevatar and Talos are the reasons my Chaos army is the VIIIth Legion. In a way, the only "honest" Legions were the Night Lords and the World Eaters. They fully embraced what the Emporer wanted his Space Marines to be: unstoppable killers and fearmongers to bring the galaxy to his heel.
"I wanted to be a hero" -Talos Valcoran, Prophet of First Claw, Tenth Company, VIIIth legion
May Decimus make the Imperium remember them
In midnight clad and in memory of Xarl the good man.
Then the Emperor was wrong
@@aguywithalotofopinions412 .........yes.
I’d lump in the Iron Warriors in there too. Tough to the last warriors who were dealt a bad hand.
I looked away for a second and my man is scratching his forhead like has a powerclaw on. This content is intended to show and educate the acting process. You, sir, could make me watch the radio if you were on.
Haha! Thanks man. So glad you liked it!
@@NaturallyRPVoiceoverKonrad's first words where you slowly drag your hand across your face, as if lost in memory for a second is beautiful embodiment of the character. It's like I can see him running his tongue over his sharpened teeth
One thing that Konrad failed to clarify,
When he says "there was no other way", he's not saying it was the only option. He was saying "I knew nothing else but the methods I used."
then thats a skill issue
@jmgonzales7701 of his teachers maybe. But you can't expect a person to approach a problem with skills they never learned. Curze did his best with what he had and knew, his real mistake was in never correcting it later. Although at that point you can argue he was in too deep anyway
this feels like a son who idolized his father grew up enough not only to see his imperfections but to be mature and brave enough to call out his bull crap
Sevatar is just the best. It’s so amusing to me how out of all of the charismatic legions, the Night Lords somehow always seem to be the funniest.
Sevatar deserved better. I am still convinced he became the first chapter master of the Charcaradons due to the hints in the Prince of Crows novel.
Based Sevatar calling out for all his posturing and “I had to “ Kurze choose to be the night haunter cause he liked it . Others had far worse worlds and didn’t resort to this barbarism and fear once no longer applied wanes
Based Sevatar, cringe Konrad
Others did not have worse worlds, lol. Nostramo was one, if not the worst.
@@SilverWarrior95it's a matter of perspective I suppose, which would you rather be stuck on? A world full of criminal filth, or a world with warp beasts that hunt and kill the population for sport (caliban) a world that is basically one gigantic volcano with giant fire breathing vicious salamander monsters (nocturne) or maybe barbaros ( a world ruled and controlled by cruel chaos worshipping necromancers who regularly poisoned, killed and raised the dead to make them eat their own former family members in their own homes, or Medusa (Perturabo's) world where the most common cause of death was being worked to it in manufactorums, if you were lucky you died young by a machine accident, or you were unlucky and against all odds lived to old age, only to be cast out of killed when you simply could not work anymore, or maybe fenris where even in heavy winter gear, you would freeze to death in minutes at best, which would be better than being torn apart alive by wolves twice the size of horses and filled with more hatred than the most belligerent of chihuahua's, and that's assuming a kraken doesn't just eat you alive whole 😂 Nostramo was unquestionably a horrible, terrible world, but to say it was the worst isn't really true, many of the other primarchs landed on awful worlds too, it's just a matter of what you think is worse, so long as I am armed, I would at least try to survive Nostramo, where the worst you had to deal with were human psychopaths, fragile humans who could be downed with a single laspistol shot, but I would face one of those before I would wanna face warp beasts, fire breathing monsters, powerful evil necromancers, and so on, and that isn't even mentioning the sheer terror of living on Catachan, which of course isn't a primarch world but holy fucking eh batman! 😂
@@SilverWarrior95Considering Baal being a deathworld where humanity is barely surviving, Nostramo isn’t the worst. Sanguinius is basically proof that it is a skill issue on Kurze’s end.
Just imagine what we could have had if we got Kharn and Sevatar interacting
I’ve done my fair share of Curze simping but if we’re being honest, Sevatar is the real prize.
Thank you for posting more full length speeches here! The shorts are great but I love being able to hear the full version.
Full speeches are posted on my main page 🙏
@@NaturallyRPVoiceover What's that?
Here’s hoping to hear Talos’ “it is not enough” speech on youtube!
He already did it
@@brutalbandido9427yeah but it wasn’t a single video. It’s weird saying “here go to 1:17:17”
Sevetar is probably one of, if not the best space Marines ever. And more noble and principalled than most Loyalists too
Man, when you first get into Warhammer and you hear about the night lords you think it’s just a bunch of edge lord gore… but they have such a compelling and interesting drive
The delivery of "SON OF A.... Son of a God." is just *chef's kiss*
“It was the only way” seems to be a common theme - perhaps an ingrained flaw in the Emperor’s bloodline.
He ultimately was no better than Curze…perhaps he was worse, even.
The Emperor said the same thing when he burned down the last church on Terra.
I feel like He came to outgrow that notion in the end. Too bad it was way too late.
@@Archon3960 Then regressed when he threw that away to kill Horus.
Sevatar is just not having any bullshit.
Ironically the psychopath is the voice of reason in this legion.
GOING ABSOLUTELY FERAL! YAS, NIGHT LORD CONTENT!!
"GOD I LOVE THE NIGHTLORDS."
me too Mr. Bones... Me too
Sins of the Father, with each step weighed in blood and violence. No, Dorn, Fulgrim, Corax and even Malcador could not fathom the depths of Konrad's tortured mind and soul. But a thought: "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past" (1984 G. Orwell, 1948)?
That was fantastic! The voices were good, but your facial expression really brought the performance to life! You could see Curze and Sevatar in the emotion that you brought to both characters!
Thanks so muhc man!
I was just talking about this conversation a few days ago. I have my reservations about the heresy stories, but sevetar is just so cool in whatever he shows up in you can't help but enjoy him. Excellent voice over as always my dude!
Thanks so much! Appreciate you!
Pure greatness.
Thank you very much.
Thanks for listening!
excellent this definitely shows the intense and interesting relationship between kurze and sevatar the latter being the only one to completely call his father out on his bs.
Absolutely in love with these 30k voice overs you’re honestly so good at it 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thank you so much!!
Konrad is just a silly little guy
It's really kind of makes you understand Conrad better the same time showcase how Sevatar was a badass
God, if only Curze were as level-headed as his favorite son.
Every time. Every time the voice acting is perfect. Love your work, please never stop.
Thanks so much!! Cheers.
Having listened to your work on "Abyssal Edge", gotta say you are my favorite Sevatar of any of the black library narrators.
If they have more of him in The Scouring I truly hope you're the one to voice him.
While I agree with Sevatar's points, I'd also like to point out how INSANE Nostromo society must have been to descend back into being Gotham on steroids just because Konrad left the planet and then send him as recruits the exact sort of people he despises most.
I mean... did they really think Konrad wouldn't notice and _come back??_ Imagine you stayed under this crazy guy's rule for years, decades or centuries even, before the Emperor showed up. Imagine how out of your mind you must be to DARE to stray from what he commands after watching him do the "Radio Demon" bit on planetary scale! Hell, forget Konrad! What the fuck possessed Nostromo that, after seeing the guy's father and siblings arrive in a ray of gold that blinded people, they decided they could go back to the old ways? Would YOU wanna risk the wrath of a god-like being with that level of power and whose son spent the laws few years flaying every rapist jaywalker on the planet?!
It's a sad thought that, out of all his brothers, Konrad really had no one in Nostromo. No parents (not even abusive bastards like Kor Phaeron for Lorgar or Necare for Mortarion, or opportunistic rulers like Dammekos to Perturabo), no friends even among the street urchins (which Horus had in Chtonian hive-gangers), not even loyal sidekicks and followers (like Angron's gladiators or Omegon's Space Pirates) or even proper education and job (like Magnus, Fulgrim and Perturabo). Just living in the streets and sewers, observing the hell-hole of a planet he landed on and becoming the only version of Hatred's Not-Important guy that's fully sympathetic. He didn't try any "better ways" because, frankly, he couldn't learn such a thing could even _exist._ He's like Lucy from Elfen Lied, Hansel and Gretel from Black Lagoon or Alois Trancy from Black Butler II.
I adore this, a superb voicing of both Sevatar and Curze, your voice work for both captures both characters very very well
Greatly appreciated!
God man, Sev really believed, didnt he? Its a sign not only of your exquisite portrayal but of the writing that i can sit here and feel something other than disgust for the 8th. These guys really never had a chance, they were damned the moment Kurze landed on Nostramo.
Model of Compliance, now that hits hard. When Nostramo is model of order what it syas about other worlds standarts.
Your night lords and Kurze videos are the best man!! 💀
Glad you like them! Thank you so much man.
@@NaturallyRPVoiceoverhonestly man all your 40k stuff is absolutely breathtaking.
Very beautiful acting! I can even see in your face these characters.
Thank you so much!!
When I read this this part it made me respect Sevatar more than any, and you sir have captured it perfectly
Literally just read this story last week...well done!
This one was really really good I watch all of yours this was one of your best
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It's decided. When Konrad speaks, it'll be in your voice.
Oh Conrad Kurze being his usual delulu self. Great voice over!!!
Yes! Thank you!
I absolutely adore your take on Sevatar. The most based marine possessed of more brass than the rest of his legion combined.
"I am going nowhere, Sire. Not without you." In the Forty-First Millenium, the sins of the father echo through the deeds of the sons. And the sons of the sons of the sons.
Yessss my favourite quotes channel has posted another 40k vid!!!! 😁😁
Jfc you're a living legend.
Tellin a primarch he was doing it the easy way was one of the bravest things Ive ever witnessed.
Dude you kill it always. I hope and pray you get to be on the space marine games or tv shows soon. Fallout is my game and it was huge success. So I’m sure warhammer the shows will be too. I love when you do primarch vs primarch
Thanks so much dude! Appreciate it so much.
Kurze is such a perfectly tragic figure, so enslaved by his limited vision, and yet still it was a chain of his own making.
There is something so horrifically human about him. Few if any have ever done the things he did, but everyone has been in his place. We all find ourselves, from time to time, so locked in on a limited idea of what we are capable of. Everyone has moments when, even in a world of freedom and choice, we cannot accept another way, chained as we are to our nature and our convictions. Konrad defined himself by that moment, he built his fortress upon it, and ultimately he died there. So convinced of his own inability to change course that even as his head was cleaved from his body, he saw it as vindication rather than defeat.
Truly, only a primarch could be so tragically human, and yet so terribly inhuman.
Cool, fantastic work 😊
Thank you!
Finally found the balliest space marine to face the crazy Cruze.
Sevetar was really the best guy to be the Captain of the 8th. More than enough balls to question and talk back to a Primarch, yet still fiercely loyal
Brilliant 😊
Call me crazy.... but I think this is your best 40k speech performance. It's brilliant.
Sevetar asking the right questions
PERFECT! I need more 40K voice acting. Please consider doing Shadows of the Past from beginning to end. Make it a 3 parter if you must. Your voice acting would be fantastic with the Word Bearers, Lorgar, and Corvus
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Absolute chills.
Thank you so much! 🙏
Would love to see/hear you do some of the lines from The Emperor's Gift. Let's hear your Fenrisian accent.
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Goosebumps literal Goosebumps man
I'd take that as a compliment! Thanks man.
@NaturallyRPVoiceover it was ment to be love your work and keep it up
Can you do the other primarchs? That was phenomenal!
Will you ever do any farsight/t'au? Cause man everytime you do a 40k vid you make rethink my faction! Haha great work!!
Fantastic work as usual. Love your night lord stuff. If you ever have the time please check out simon spurrier, lord of the night. Its a terrific but underrated Night lords novel with some great monologues and dialogues that id love to hear your perform. ( even just read the first page, it gives you a good idea of the tone of the book)
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Sevatar really cooked his Primarch here and I love it!
"There was no other way!"
Oh Konrad, how much you sound like the Emperor in that moment.
And Sevatars criticism applies to him as well. The Emperor could have brought worlds into alignment without a bloody conquest through the stars, but no, it had to be fast and efficient. Was violence inevitable for some worlds? Of course. But in no way did he need to swathe through the human worlds and cultures like a scythe cutting through wheat and weeds, making little distinction to notice which he cut. Only to burn them all so all that was left was the stalks of worlds he deemed correct.
Damn bro. Sev was really laying into Daddy dearest
So great
Thanks man!
Goddamn that was what you call a fucking one man show! that was true theater! bravo! [throws rose]
really great keep it up please
Thanks, will do!
Amazing.
Thank you! Cheers!
Alright got a new appreciate the Night lords now.
Smashed it again
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Superb
Thank you! Cheers!
"I became the sinner" so evil space batman is now also evil space bat Jesus
Moooooore, give me more 40K quotes sir. You have talent and we want, nay we demand more sir.
Will forever feel bad for Konrad. Constantly gets the short end of the stick and gets sassed by everyone and is expected not to go mad. Daddies boys like Lorgar and Horus go and ruin everything and still don't cop the same problems.
Damn good.
pretty awesome - and the day will not save you...
Amazing
Thanks for watching!
It's funny how the only Night Lord to truly believe in his father's philosophy was the most logically critical of it. Sevatar had no insecurities in his beliefs whatsoever.
Okay I have to read this. Which horus heresy book is this from?
If i had his voice i would always talk to myself
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Interesting to not think angron hated his sons. He's very open about it
I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with Kurze, or any other nightlord. It's quite shocking
Do you know the feeling when a bald girl steps on the stage, she starts to sing Janis Joplin and you immediately fall in love with her for the rest of your life? This guy is giving me the same vibes.
Bravo 🎩
I’m very creeped out by the jerky hand movements for Curz at the start
Legit helped sell his aura of “gonna wear your face on my face for jaywalking”
Does anyone remember what book this is from?
I know I've read it I just can't remember where.
Sevatar had some balls 😂
I live your voice for Konrad! however if I am to give one single small tip / suggestion:
I think Konrad and his Legion would speak with a slavic accent (as that's where they take inspiration from in the real world).
So I always hear them in my head like that.
Other legions have similar accents:
White scars Mongolian,
Blood angels Bulgarian and the Thousand sons egyptian.
Fulgrim turned a hell world into a paradise of peace, justice and equality. Curze had no excuse. Still favorite though.
What’s this taken from I’m curious
Son of a God indeed 😮
Ok, now I understand Curze and the NIGHT LORDS.
“I HAD TO BE CRUEL! So people would learn not to be like me, but to be better than me! I had to be the villain they must overcome not BECOME!”
What Curze did was understandable, but not justifiable nor defensible.
We were meant to empathize with his acts and intentions, but hone in on his intentions and approach differently from his methods; but I honestly believe NOSTROMO is a scum of a planet, that the people instead followed Curze’s example and what they believe him to be rather than endeavor to be better, it is a planet devoid of morality, nobility and righteousness; it is a visage of what the Imperium would become: a bastardized dream of a better world.
Truly wild
Thank you, cheers!
The novels are doing a character assassination in several respects, turning many of the traitor primarchs into always-going-to-be-evil assholes instead of the best of the primarchs sabotaged by Chaos' machinations such that their virtues were deprived of what was needed for proper expression and they turned into vices. "Justice" is a very good thing, but being deprived of anyone to raise him and give context, and being in possibly the literal worst environment to grow up in twisted him.