My grandparents spent a lot of time in the Rubyvale area back in the 60s , found some very nice stones , still a great place to have a scratch or a wander after the rain . They corrupted me as a young bloke into the pleasure of gem and gold fossicking , just wish i had those younger eyes and knees now that i have the time to get back into it . And as i promised Ted I will learn to cut / facet etc .Your videos are a great source of info and inspiration , thank you . Bloody nice little stone too , lovely job .
Nicely done as usual, Cliff. Your choice of design was perfect to save as much rough as possible out of that beautiful stone. I hope Tim gets to see this video. Thanks for sharing another excellent video.
Totally ruff looking, than becomes gem brilliant, amazing stones , and videos. Can't believe how blown away these videos are. With a stone that size , you really need the best equipment.
Wow cliff that's stunning for a small gem. You know how to how to get the best out of any gem.. If I need a heart surgeon with steady hands I'm going to call you . You cut an expert level of film as well, the best I've seen on utube. Well Don mate.
Thanks John for your kind words. I try hard to cut a perfect gem so I don't mind macro close ups of facets. I'm still working on ideas for making videos. I want to improve on making videos. To be fair the viewing public deserve it even though we are mostly amateurs. But from some of the faceting videos I've seen they are poorly made. Sadly, it seems that some never get better at making them. Take Care.
I have a mining claim right next to rubyvale! there is a fantastic place nearby to learn called pats gems. i grew up going there and it taught me so much about fossicking!
Thanks for the video been learning how do Faceting since last September have VJ machine decided that sapphire’s is going be one main the gems like to cut When become good at but found that doing this Faceting like do an apprenticeship there is so much to it been learning cutting CZ and Australian Crisitnite glass topaz quartz and labradorite
I randomly come across your video and I totally love it. You work is awesome. If you ever decide to sell any pieces, please let your viewer know. I would totally want to get one.
Is that one of those longhorned musical instruments of Australian descent playing at the end? [Can't remember the name]. How appropriate. Beautiful blue-flashing stone...
Great job love it all and still looking at all you have at the end I look more I have just got a llot of top sapphires need a good cutter I have go but not the good ones
Thanks Peridot Y...I know your a fan of green. I'm hoping to get hold of a nice piece of Peridot sometime. What I've seen about is small. I do have a small piece from India, that will cut a small gem, but I'm hoping to cut a 6mm or larger if possible. Thanks for watching. Take Care.
@@VintageTimeGems hello it's me again you say you want a peridot? I have a good one straight from San Carlos AZ nice light green color no internal brown and gem quality. It's a fairly large one considering peridots. The only ones I have heard of being bigger then 2 inches 5.08 cm are from Pakistan.
@@peteynutt4104 Hi Petey, As a coincidence I just received some Peridot today from Tanzania. I think that may be the next gem I facet. I've always wanted to cut Peridot from Arizona. I'm not sure how much you want for it? If you go to the about section on my youtube channel you can email me about any specifics . Cheers Cliff
@@VintageTimeGems this peridot I found in (not kidding) a parking lot it's about 3.7 grams and normal peridot crystals are practically sand or tiny pebbles as you know. And it is begging for a masters touch. I found it for a reason perhaps it was so we could some how meet online. Even if it's just for craft comradery. But I also may have access to some minerals that wonderous continent of yours doesn't have. I could send you things in exchange for tips or lessons. Though even if the answer is no I would like to send them to you regardless I guess as "fanmail". Let me know so I am not wasting your time.
@@peteynutt4104 I'm happy to give free advice. As you said your young lapidary artist I think you should keep and do something with it. To post to Australia will cost a fair bit, and even a return sample of a mineral from Australia would probably cause even more due to our ridiculous postage cost. It would be nice to see what it looks like.
I love your videos I would like to challenge you to brightly cut a piece of glass or other odd materials It would be very interesting seeing how it turns out
I've been working on a "build", as we gamers say, and I've figured out half of what I need. The other half requires several rows of 1mm stones. I've thought of using 1mm Pearl's, and 1mm lapis lazuli (if that's even possible with lapis). My concern is the blue stones being viewable in any type of light, as blue. I've also thought of using some type of blue chalcedony/cabochon agate since it is more dense that lapis. My other alternative is possibly some type of light blue sapphire. My biggest worry is: is it possible to create 1mm stones with sapphires?? What about lapis lazuli? I'd imagine it's extremely difficult to cut down to that size...especially if the density is low. Please help lol Greetings from Greece.
I bought some broken ruby boules to experiment with. 1,000 carats for $20, not bad eh? Anyway, i thought i'd make a cabochon so I went through all the grits up to 3,000 plus cerium oxide and I still can't get a good polish. i think I'm going to need diamond paste.
Thats a great price. Synthetic ruby will have the same hardness as synth Sapphire. It can be tricky to polish. I doubt cerium will work. You may need to use a 9000 grit -14000 grit diamond prepolish to get that final polish of 50000 grit perfect. Happy gem cutting.
Hi Cliff I found a video of you cutting a sapphire from tim's mine. Excellent job, did the colour get darker after it was cut? In the thumbnail it looks beautiful, my struggle to find a faceting machine has led me to Graves, lol. Hall is no go, gemasta is like chasing the horizon, ultratec is to expensive, facetron also expensive Omni not bad so it's Graves unless I can get Lamberts in Bangkok to cut it waiting for reply, or maybe you would take mercy on my plight. I had no plans on buying a sapphire until I saw Tim selling a trillion shape piece of rough 29ct, I had to have it for a ring for myself but I'm going opal mining and really need my money for a claim and plant, not a faceting machine, I have heard you say many times you don't sell gems but please give a thought to someone who after work every Monday drove in peak hour Sydney traffic to the lapidary club to cut a round brilliant of quartz which took months because nothing happens fast there, I would cut it there but the gemasta has no locating pin so I can't remove the dop at the end of the night. Please show mercy cliff.
The gem stayed the same colour after cutting. Aussie sapphire are usually dark and look much better in natural sunlight. Sorry Shane, I don't sell my gems and I don't facet other peoples gems. To many hassles faceting other peoples gems as things can go wrong.
I was wondering if it is possible to actually cut a sapphire. Not shape it, but to actually cut the stone. I have a 243 ct stone. It's not gem quality. But it has been fasted. It's a thick oval. I want to cut it in half to have 2 separate stones. Is that possible ?
Excellent video and information. I am currently working on my graduate gemologist degree and keep coming to the same place when I find raw stones, I need a cutter. I have some raw Myanmar Rubies and South African Sapphires. Not large ones but definitely worth cutting. I am new to this career path (GG) and have no previous interest in gems but this is what I want to do on the back 9 of my life. My wife makes jewelry and I will find her gems to make things with. I am quite handy with tools of all kinds and I am drawn to faceting. This video doesn't help draw me away. Other than following you, like stalking :), do you have any recommendations for someone interested in getting started in faceting? Thank you ahead of time. I truly appreciate you video and will watch your other videos.
Wow! I love seeing the process to take a raw gem stone and turn it into something that beautiful. How long does that take you to cut? (and if I can ask another question, what is the smallest gem that is practical to cut?)
I really like your informative video's. I learn so much and often watch several times. BUT the bad elevator music is muted. I would love to just hear the natural workshop sounds, even if that included your singing and playing your own music in background. But again i do thank you for great videos.
Wow! Just wow! You must have so much patience to accomplish those works of art! How long did it take you to refine your expertise? The machinery you use to cut the 💎 gems, looks like you need to be a brain surgeon to work them out! I'm so glad I came across your channel...
I just got my first parcel of rough gemstones as a valentines day gift. It is 8.7 ct of Rubyvale material, a teal , a teal and green and one vivid,"ceylon" cornflower blue color, its only a 3 ct stone, it is shallow on the c axis where the blue is , a/b are dark teal blue and a little green...would two smaller stones of that highest quality cornflower blue color ,be better than a single large" in vogue " and trendy teal stone? I wish i could show them . They where picked with the knowledge i am having them cut to competition accuracy and polish levels. Can anybody recomend a set of designs for sapphires r.i.? Thank you ahead of time ,for any info given. Be well.
@@VintageTimeGems Idk how I missed this comment...Thankyou for the reply and information . I have a better idea of what is what now and see what you mean with many needing freeform . The guy I get them from recommended skin -polishing a couple specific pieces. The blue in my picture is one of them. I may want a few big basic facettes , being inspired by the old mine cut to some degree. Be well . Your videos are awesome and very inspiring.
Why not handle the gem after the finish i would like to see the pass through of light. That flash the cubic had that dazzled the camera. Them sitting on some cotten is so sterile.
Filming the gem completely finished is the most difficult process of the video. Dark gems like this sapphire are notorious to film, dust specks and finger prints are issues and holding you hand still enough in macro mode is also hard. Still working on better final reveal filming...Thanks for watching.
@@VintageTimeGems i loved it just when you had the cubic finished you handled it alot. I guess you could get really nice white gloves for handling. Would love to see like a compilation of your gem collection too. I know its hard for me to relly tell how small it is but when you held the peridot its facets where as wide as the lines on your thumb so less then half a mm wide. Maybe 1/4 mm?
@@robertbogan225 The cubic was a huge gem, I could hold it by the girdle. Small gems that are only 6-8 mm it's impossible to hold by hand properly. I have a special tool to hold them in, but you can't see all the gem.
thanks mate as a 60 year old bloke who's just got interested in cutting watching your vids makes it all fall into place.
My grandparents spent a lot of time in the Rubyvale area back in the 60s , found some very nice stones , still a great place to have a scratch or a wander after the rain . They corrupted me as a young bloke into the pleasure of gem and gold fossicking , just wish i had those younger eyes and knees now that i have the time to get back into it . And as i promised Ted I will learn to cut / facet etc .Your videos are a great source of info and inspiration , thank you . Bloody nice little stone too , lovely job .
Nicely done as usual, Cliff. Your choice of design was perfect to save as much rough as possible out of that beautiful stone. I hope Tim gets to see this video.
Thanks for sharing another excellent video.
Thanks John. It was probably the best choice of design for that piece of rough. Cheers Cliff
Beautiful deep colour revealed in the cut gem. Excellent job as always!
What an amazing colour this sapphire has. Excellent job.
I was quite happy with the outcome. Thanks for watching.
Totally ruff looking, than becomes gem brilliant, amazing stones , and videos. Can't believe how blown away these videos are. With a stone that size , you really need the best equipment.
Thanks...Glad you enjoyed the video.
Simply dazzling piece ! ! ! You are good ! ! ! The BEST to be exact. Keep on with the great work mate.
Thanks Eric....Not sure I'm the best, but I hard work hard at my craft. Glad you enjoyed the video. Stay tuned for more. Regards Cliff
@@VintageTimeGems Looking forward for more great videos! Best regards from me as well.
I enjoyed this. The art of faceting is very interesting from raw to finished stone. The media production is well done too mate. From NJ.
Thank you.
Beautiful job on a beautiful stone. Thank you for sharing with us.
Thanks Scott, thanks for taking the time to watch. Stay Tuned for more.
Your work is mesmerizing. A pleasure to watch!
Thanks Ian...Now I have to think about my next project.
Another great video and an amazing stone you do beautiful work thanks so much for sharing!
Thanks RCF
Thank you Sir!! Im starting cutting gems, and its so fantastic.. gotta brazilian super fan 😊
Beautiful stone, great job!
Thanks
Wow cliff that's stunning for a small gem. You know how to how to get the best out of any gem.. If I need a heart surgeon with steady hands I'm going to call you . You cut an expert level of film as well, the best I've seen on utube. Well Don mate.
Thanks John for your kind words. I try hard to cut a perfect gem so I don't mind macro close ups of facets. I'm still working on ideas for making videos. I want to improve on making videos. To be fair the viewing public deserve it even though we are mostly amateurs. But from some of the faceting videos I've seen they are poorly made. Sadly, it seems that some never get better at making them. Take Care.
Cutting and polishing at the same speed must present some challenges Cliff
Beautiful work
The sapphire in my wife’s engagement ring is from that area, it colour shifts from blue to violet and has a small red purple streak through it.
Sapphire is second one of my favourite gems, so great job and keep it up. Pleasure to watch
Thanks Martin....Sapphire is fav among many. I would like to facet a bright yellow if I could get hold of a nice piece of rough material....Cheers
I have a mining claim right next to rubyvale! there is a fantastic place nearby to learn called pats gems. i grew up going there and it taught me so much about fossicking!
Nice stone I use all Australian sapphires all the time many people do not realize they are as good as any in the world
There are some amazing Sapphires in Australia. Many never see the light of day either as they end up in private collections. Thanks for watching.
Very informative:)
I am so glad I stumbled upon this!!! Taking on apprentices?! I’m a Maui grasshopper that would love to learn 💎🔮💎
Good work
Thanks for the video been learning how do Faceting since last September have VJ machine decided that sapphire’s is going be one main the gems like to cut When become good at but found that doing this Faceting like do an apprenticeship there is so much to it been learning cutting CZ and Australian Crisitnite glass topaz quartz and labradorite
I randomly come across your video and I totally love it. You work is awesome. If you ever decide to sell any pieces, please let your viewer know. I would totally want to get one.
Thank you...I will at some point sell a few. thanks for watching.
Is that one of those longhorned musical instruments of Australian descent playing at the end? [Can't remember the name]. How appropriate. Beautiful blue-flashing stone...
It's a diggery-do...look up Yothu Yindi ....the band. Sorry for any misspelling.
Amazing
Thanks Chok...Take care
Wonderful work on that Red garnet though it was small u managed to cut it so beautiful...I can be selling you some good stones am here in Zambia
Very nice, which style of cut is it. I like square cut stones.
Great job love it all and still looking at all you have at the end I look more I have just got a llot of top sapphires need a good cutter I have go but not the good ones
Informative
Green Sapphires are my favorite it gem
Thanks Peridot Y...I know your a fan of green. I'm hoping to get hold of a nice piece of Peridot sometime. What I've seen about is small. I do have a small piece from India, that will cut a small gem, but I'm hoping to cut a 6mm or larger if possible. Thanks for watching. Take Care.
@@VintageTimeGems hello it's me again you say you want a peridot?
I have a good one straight from San Carlos AZ nice light green color no internal brown and gem quality.
It's a fairly large one considering peridots.
The only ones I have heard of being bigger then 2 inches 5.08 cm are from Pakistan.
@@peteynutt4104 Hi Petey, As a coincidence I just received some Peridot today from Tanzania. I think that may be the next gem I facet. I've always wanted to cut Peridot from Arizona. I'm not sure how much you want for it? If you go to the about section on my youtube channel you can email me about any specifics . Cheers Cliff
@@VintageTimeGems this peridot I found in (not kidding) a parking lot it's about 3.7 grams and normal peridot crystals are practically sand or tiny pebbles as you know. And it is begging for a masters touch.
I found it for a reason perhaps it was so we could some how meet online.
Even if it's just for craft comradery.
But I also may have access to some minerals that wonderous continent of yours doesn't have.
I could send you things in exchange for tips or lessons.
Though even if the answer is no I would like to send them to you regardless I guess as "fanmail".
Let me know so I am not wasting your time.
@@peteynutt4104 I'm happy to give free advice. As you said your young lapidary artist I think you should keep and do something with it. To post to Australia will cost a fair bit, and even a return sample of a mineral from Australia would probably cause even more due to our ridiculous postage cost. It would be nice to see what it looks like.
I love your videos
I would like to challenge you to brightly cut a piece of glass or other odd materials
It would be very interesting seeing how it turns out
I'm not a fan of cutting glass. It has no real value and is too soft to be worn. But other unusual gems I'm more keen on faceting.
I've been working on a "build", as we gamers say, and I've figured out half of what I need. The other half requires several rows of 1mm stones. I've thought of using 1mm Pearl's, and 1mm lapis lazuli (if that's even possible with lapis). My concern is the blue stones being viewable in any type of light, as blue. I've also thought of using some type of blue chalcedony/cabochon agate since it is more dense that lapis. My other alternative is possibly some type of light blue sapphire.
My biggest worry is: is it possible to create 1mm stones with sapphires?? What about lapis lazuli?
I'd imagine it's extremely difficult to cut down to that size...especially if the density is low.
Please help lol
Greetings from Greece.
Finished weight and value, and how many hours involved, I watch tim from Tim's adventures on here also
I bought some broken ruby boules to experiment with. 1,000 carats for $20, not bad eh? Anyway, i thought i'd make a cabochon so I went through all the grits up to 3,000 plus cerium oxide and I still can't get a good polish. i think I'm going to need diamond paste.
Thats a great price. Synthetic ruby will have the same hardness as synth Sapphire. It can be tricky to polish. I doubt cerium will work. You may need to use a 9000 grit -14000 grit diamond prepolish to get that final polish of 50000 grit perfect. Happy gem cutting.
2 questions. 1- Was the sapphire heated? 2- Was this one of Tim's sapphires? Nice cut!
No and no.
Wish I had a Australian Sapphire 😓 I have a Ceylon, a Montana, and even my state sapphire; but no Australian
Where can i find perspex disc. Should i use copper lap for polishing
Found a big sapphire yesterday here in northern Idaho, now just figuring out what to do with it
Hopefully it will facet.
@@VintageTimeGems its about the size of water bottle lid & shaped like teardrop or claw
what is the make and model of the faceting machine you useing? Looks to be a good one. :)
It's a "facetstar" made in Australia by a Melbourne engineer.
Que maravilha!
Hi Cliff I found a video of you cutting a sapphire from tim's mine. Excellent job, did the colour get darker after it was cut? In the thumbnail it looks beautiful, my struggle to find a faceting machine has led me to Graves, lol. Hall is no go, gemasta is like chasing the horizon, ultratec is to expensive, facetron also expensive Omni not bad so it's Graves unless I can get Lamberts in Bangkok to cut it waiting for reply, or maybe you would take mercy on my plight. I had no plans on buying a sapphire until I saw Tim selling a trillion shape piece of rough 29ct, I had to have it for a ring for myself but I'm going opal mining and really need my money for a claim and plant, not a faceting machine, I have heard you say many times you don't sell gems but please give a thought to someone who after work every Monday drove in peak hour Sydney traffic to the lapidary club to cut a round brilliant of quartz which took months because nothing happens fast there, I would cut it there but the gemasta has no locating pin so I can't remove the dop at the end of the night. Please show mercy cliff.
The gem stayed the same colour after cutting. Aussie sapphire are usually dark and look much better in natural sunlight. Sorry Shane, I don't sell my gems and I don't facet other peoples gems. To many hassles faceting other peoples gems as things can go wrong.
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Thanks Santiago....
I was wondering if it is possible to actually cut a sapphire. Not shape it, but to actually cut the stone. I have a 243 ct stone. It's not gem quality. But it has been fasted. It's a thick oval. I want to cut it in half to have 2 separate stones. Is that possible ?
Like a diamond it i will cleave. Best to use a diamond saw and cut it in separate pieces.
Excellent video and information. I am currently working on my graduate gemologist degree and keep coming to the same place when I find raw stones, I need a cutter. I have some raw Myanmar Rubies and South African Sapphires. Not large ones but definitely worth cutting. I am new to this career path (GG) and have no previous interest in gems but this is what I want to do on the back 9 of my life. My wife makes jewelry and I will find her gems to make things with. I am quite handy with tools of all kinds and I am drawn to faceting. This video doesn't help draw me away. Other than following you, like stalking :), do you have any recommendations for someone interested in getting started in faceting?
Thank you ahead of time. I truly appreciate you video and will watch your other videos.
Wow! I love seeing the process to take a raw gem stone and turn it into something that beautiful. How long does that take you to cut? (and if I can ask another question, what is the smallest gem that is practical to cut?)
This was a small gem so I faceted this on and off in 4 days. I think 4mm is as small as you want to go cut.
So random question but could you cut a gem in a way that no matter the place its struck by light, the light is reflected into the center?
Most dispersion of light come out of the table ( the center of the gem)...No table not a lot of brilliance.
I really like your informative video's. I learn so much and often watch several times. BUT the bad elevator music is muted. I would love to just hear the natural workshop sounds, even if that included your singing and playing your own music in background. But again i do thank you for great videos.
Wow! Just wow! You must have so much patience to accomplish those works of art! How long did it take you to refine your expertise? The machinery you use to cut the 💎 gems, looks like you need to be a brain surgeon to work them out! I'm so glad I came across your channel...
Mas um ecelente trabablho parabens
Can i use diamond powder+oil instead of diamond paste?
Yes. 50,000 diamond grit and oil should work. Best on copper, but it should work on perspex also.
Qual o nome dessa pedra
What’s the hardest stone to work on?
Hard to say. I would say Fluorite. It soft, it can peel when cutting and overheat. But some of the colours make it unique. Thanks for watching.
are you supposed to treat the gem first and then cut or the order doesn't really matter?
Probably best to treat the gem first.
@@VintageTimeGems whats the average cost to have them cut?
I just got my first parcel of rough gemstones as a valentines day gift. It is 8.7 ct of Rubyvale material, a teal , a teal and green and one vivid,"ceylon" cornflower blue color, its only a 3 ct stone, it is shallow on the c axis where the blue is , a/b are dark teal blue and a little green...would two smaller stones of that highest quality cornflower blue color ,be better than a single large" in vogue " and trendy teal stone? I wish i could show them . They where picked with the knowledge i am having them cut to competition accuracy and polish levels.
Can anybody recomend a set of designs for sapphires r.i.?
Thank you ahead of time ,for any info given. Be well.
Not sure about designs without a photo. I find most Aussie sapphires are "Freeforms". The best of the best are cherry picked,
@@VintageTimeGems Idk how I missed this comment...Thankyou for the reply and information . I have a better idea of what is what now and see what you mean with many needing freeform . The guy I get them from recommended skin -polishing a couple specific pieces. The blue in my picture is one of them. I may want a few big basic facettes , being inspired by the old mine cut to some degree.
Be well . Your videos are awesome and very inspiring.
!
Do you have any Sherri topaz??
No...I don't have Sherry Topaz.
Eu tenho safira do Brasil vou mandar um vídeo no TH-cam
Why not handle the gem after the finish i would like to see the pass through of light. That flash the cubic had that dazzled the camera. Them sitting on some cotten is so sterile.
Filming the gem completely finished is the most difficult process of the video. Dark gems like this sapphire are notorious to film, dust specks and finger prints are issues and holding you hand still enough in macro mode is also hard. Still working on better final reveal filming...Thanks for watching.
@@VintageTimeGems i loved it just when you had the cubic finished you handled it alot. I guess you could get really nice white gloves for handling. Would love to see like a compilation of your gem collection too. I know its hard for me to relly tell how small it is but when you held the peridot its facets where as wide as the lines on your thumb so less then half a mm wide. Maybe 1/4 mm?
@@robertbogan225 The cubic was a huge gem, I could hold it by the girdle. Small gems that are only 6-8 mm it's impossible to hold by hand properly. I have a special tool to hold them in, but you can't see all the gem.
Mini baby gem hehe hoohoo
Se puder diz o nome da pedra em portugues por favor
Bom dia
Thank you Rosane.
We all know that all of the Sapphires come from Tarth...
Keren
What is beginning name of song ?
The Pepi Le Pew song.