Primordial Review | Lagoon's Complicated New Multi-Dimensional Roller Coaster
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2023
- For the past 5+ years, Lagoon's been hard at work on a brand new roller coaster, which finally made its debut in September 2023! Primordial is an interactive Indoor/Outdoor roller coaster/dark ride hybrid, sending riders up, over, around, and through a massive artificial Mountain, where it will travel forwards, side to side, and backwards, and conclude in a finale that is sure to keep you guessing...because there's 6 different ways you can experience it!
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I'd like to thank the comments section for spoiling Mission Ferrari for me
even avoiding pov's wasn't enough -__-
Is mission ferrari the super fast coaster in Ferrari world?
@@mro4ts457nah that one is called Formula Rossa
@mro4ts457 no that's Formula Rossa
Spoilers: it's a coaster
I think it’s safe to say that the long wait for this ride was worth it! Lagoon should be proud of themselves for this amazing ride!
I want this to replace Wonder Mountain's Guardian at Canada's Wonderland (my home park). Not just for the innovation and experience, but the reliability (why the F is at least one seat on every train taped off?!?! The guns also aren't great, 1st gen Triotech)
Hell yeah they did an amazing job! %100 worth the wait no question about that!
I believe one of Lagoon’s managers said that one of the coasters that inspired Primordial was Verbolten. They loved how the three different shows gave a rerideability aspect to that coaster & the screams of surprise the drop track always got from first time riders, so they wanted to do it even better.
Built it for the locals, the ending is no downside - huge upside to keep things interesting. For us crazy people traveling all the way out there for one day to ride it then yeah, you may not get the option you want, but that's still wicked cool they did that. May need to spend a couple days there now for your visits.
When you come to lagoon for multiple days make sure to just get a season pass. You will get you money's worth.
Thanks for the review guys. Hopefully this gets a good reception. Therefore, it does not deter them from creating more ambitious attractions like this.
I've ridden this twice, the first time I got the drop track ending with the owl, and the second time I go the backwards slide, also with the owl. I hadn't had any spoilers at all about the ride, the only thing I knew about it was that it went into the mountain, so literally just what I could see from the outside. When I went on it the first time I thought that we were gonna go back out of that ending area and basically just backtrack on the ride, but then we suddenly dropped, It took me so off guard. The second time when I got the backwards slide I still didn't really know anything about the ride other than what I'd seen, so when we started tilting backwards I kinda thought the ride was breaking.
This coaster just made lagoon a must do, next time I’m traveling out west
This ride on top of Cannibal too. I believe Cannibal was made in-house as well. They’re both unique.
This roller coaster is so amazing and well worth the wait! I am so proud of Lagoon for building a different type of roller coaster that's never been thought of before. When i went on Friday last week, they said the queue line was 2 hours long. But they were pushing everyone through fast and it hasn't had any problems. 👍👏
6:53 That's pretty much what the inside of Disneyland's Matterhorn Bobsleds in its early years, so I expect that part to be filled up in the future.
9:04 I believe at this point of the ride, if you get the owl ending, a different figure will appear with blue lighting.
Also, both primordial and wonder Mountain Guardian have endings that involve drop tracks and dragons.
Yes you are correct. I got the dragon ending quite a few times, then was surprised when we got the other one.
I don’t understand at all why a few people don’t like it, it’s truly amazing in my opinion
It’s cool but I doubt I’ll be riding it very much. It will be fun to take my nieces and nephews but it doesn’t look terribly exhilarating
Your TH-cam video was awesome! Like your Channel a lot! Coaster looks phenomenal! Happy Wednesday Taylor and Sarah! 👍
Finally got to ride this today and it was about 1hr 20 min in line. We got the owl and the drop at the end and I have to say that drop is shocking because you've just been taking a slow stroll through the big screens and you start talking to each other over your scores and BAM you drop. The absolute most unexpected ending I've ever experienced with a ride.
That looks super freaking awesome!
I can confirm that the drop track is not 55 ft tall, that's more or less referring to the size of the concrete pillar housing the drop track, which also supports the mountain structure. As for the drop track itself, it may still very well be the world's tallest, but it's probably only 20-25 feet tall.
This was one of my favorite rides in Lagoon😮
Every time I ride it I pick out new details. It is very layered. I would think that they will address the issues with the first car hitting all of the targets fiest this offseason by just adding more
The issue isn't not enough targets because there is a second round that comes in, the problem is they don't come in fast enough.
@@sazw.1797ya hopefully they keep up on it and care enough to change the respawn rate
This was a fun ride to get on, going on it again tomorrow too so I'm very excited for that
This makes me excited for what project horizon could offer since a lot of people think it’ll be a multidimensional coaster
Hello, Utahn here, I go to Lagoon every week just to ride Primordial. Just wanted to give some lore since he didn't do the best job of explaining and I know people wanna know. The Lynx animatronic is Queen Azdra, she tells us that there are two legendary creatures who bring them day and night, Dragnor the dragon who raises the sun, and Astradir the owl who raises the moon. Suddenly, armies of evil creatures, mostly skeletons and trolls, came out of the mountain and chained up Dragnor and Astradir, robbing the kingdom of day and night. Azdra asks you to help defeat the evil armies alongside her two guards Puntice the lizard, and Atecta the wolf. When he mentions the skeleton before the finale, thats the signal that you're freeing Dragnor. If its Astradir, its a troll standing there instead. The skeleton and troll have nothing to do with which drop you get. Also, as of writing this, the highest score of all time is about 8000, which is crazy high. Hope you enjoy the lore as much as I do 😊
I’ve ridden 5 times and 4 of those were the dragon drop track 😂
Have you gotten an owl ending?
@@Lagooncoastersfan nope 😭
Loved this one great thoughts 👌
Some corrections: the vertical drop track would need to be over 30ft in order to beat Guardian (the current record), and the "slide track" is present on the newly opened Mission Ferrari (Dynamic Attractions SFX Coaster at Ferrari World - delayed by 6 years)
actually mission Ferrari is a tilt track like escape from Gringotts at universal Orlando because the track tilts to another section of track and releases the car. Where as with the slide track, the track and the car slide down to the bottom level together.
@@codenamescrubsj385as a proud rider of mission ferrari before it opened, i can confirm it is more in line with vekoma tilt coasters and not a slide track.
@@codenamescrubsj385 No, it actually has a slide track too.
I think it a first cause when you watch the slide, it’s not just a slide the track is tilting and counter corrects at the bottom for a smooth landing. That one small change is probably why they can say it’s a worlds first
@@codenamescrubsj385 it has both
What an inspiring fun little park with big ambitious rides. I would love to visit!
The downside is the admission price.
Keep up the content!
I love this thing. Many’s expectations were different than what they wanted but goodness this thing is IMPRESSIVE . Crazy it’s in Lagoon
Spent a few months in Utah earlier this year while we were between houses, but didn't get a chance to get to Lagoon because it was mostly offseason. Will definitely need to go there next time we're in the area.
The last time I went I was able to ride Cannibal, and was impressed with that but didn't see that as the type of thing that would work as well in another park. This, on the other hand, I could see them being able to sell to other parks and do quite well with (although the cost would limit the number of potential customers to mostly the Disney/Universal/Sea World level operators.)
Cannibal was around the cost of $20 million dollars which is expensive but when comparing it to larger manufacturers building that scale of a ride it is only a fraction of the price.
I wish the lagoon in house team could make roller coasters for other parks.
lagoon has such unique rides simply because they do things in house. Not saying I dont love me some of the top dog manufacturers but even the best all have their standard signatures, so its cool to see a park go outside of that bubble completely
Bombara and Cannibal are made by ART Engineering, same with Primordial. It is the same model as Wonder Mountain's Guardian, which is also by ART. Also, Winja's at Phantasialand also has ''Slide Track'' so its not a first.
I think it is cause when you watch the slide, it’s not just a slide the track is tilting and counter corrects at the bottom for a smooth landing. That one small change is probably why they can say it’s a worlds first
Winjas does the same. It's just less of an angle.
@@Conman19 We are flying 11 kilometers above northern Germany
I rode this ride last weekend and it was awesome. The surprise at the end caught me so off guard I spit all over myself because I screamed while I was talking lol
We got stuck at the bottom of the track on our second go of the ride, so as the mechanics were trying to get us moving, we got to ask sone questions. The exact hight of the drop is 31 ft. Apparently the old highest drop track was 30 ft so they decided to 1 up them.
Really reminds me of wonder mountains guardian with longer track
When I went I got lucky when I rode (I skipped school to go to the 9th grade lagoon day) I got thro all but one of the switchbacks
It’s also fun having primordial right next to employee parking so I can now tune out (mostly) the primordial sound
I got the exact same ending (dragon, backwards slide) 3 times in a row. I really wanted to experience the forward drop because i also got the vertical drop twice in a row
High five ✋🏽. Will check it out this month
Based on how probability works getting the same ending the way you did had a 1 out of 36 (2.8%) chance of happening. Incredibly unlikely, but you got some bad luck.
The chance of getting the same predetermined ending in 2 rides is 1 in 36 but the odds of getting the same ending are 1 in 6.
@@hopfume2129 After the first ride the probability completely changes and the chances of getting any of the endings at that point is 1 in 6. Of course. In any situation with multiple parts the probably changes significantly after each part of the process.
The chance of getting that *particular* ending twice is 1/36, but the chance of getting *any* ending twice is 1/6, because there are six different ways it could happen.
@@MattMcIrvin That particular one is what i was talking about and what was important, though, because only that ending twice avoided the tilt track.
@@MattMcIrvin What i was saying was that he had a 97.2% chance of getting the tilt track and didn't get it.
Taylor I love you bro I love your content! Please correct me if I am wrong but, in yours and Sarah's vlog for the Lagoon vlog when you primarily went to go on primordial- it went to a valley and you had to wait forever to wait for the attraction to reopen?
It did valley during morning testing- it took several hours to get it open. But once it was open, it stayed open.
The classic: IT LOOKS LIKE DISNEY OR UNIVERSAL, chill it's great but the "Tunnel" when you go into the mountain is like not themed at all that just the inner structure of the mountain
As I mentioned, its definitely more noticeable in videos then when you're on the ride- it goes by pretty quickly.
@@CoasterStudios Yeah I believe you. I also watched another POV of the ride in which the view just goes pitch black as soon as you enter the mountain so it probably also has something to do with the time of day you ride it at. Either way it is very minor and excusable for a regional park.
It’s not finished, this is a minimum viable product right now. There are decorations and theming that aren’t ready.
Lagoon kind of reminds me of a park you would find in Europe!
so good
Haven’t been on this yet. Not waiting 2-3 hours for this.
I have never heard of an amusement park building a roller coaster themselves. Normally, amusement parks like Six Flags or Cedar Fair would work with ride manufacturers to build their roller coasters in general
The Beast at Kings Island is an in-house coaster.
It was less uncommon in older days (as another commenter said, the Beast), but basically Lagoon was looking for a family coaster and then when they realized nobody would do exactly what they wanted, they did BomBora on their own. The nice thing about it all is they try to source as much local work as is conceivable. On Cannibal, a majority of the track was manufactured a few hours away, so they made much longer pieces, which with fewer well points makes it smoother and stronger. Plus, it doesn't take as long to get parts to fix.
They worked with ART Engineering.
ART Engineering contributed heavily to the development of Lagoon's In-house coasters. Universal and Disney's parks often work in a similar arrangement between their In-house engineering teams and ride manufacturers; for example Hulk's Launch was made in house, Space Mountain (MK) was developed jointly by Imagineering and Arrow, Velocicoaster's Layout was designed by Keith Mcveen who is part of Universal Creative.
This is what im talking about. Lets get creative with this shhh. The only thing i could dock points for is it looks like the mountain is poorly integrated in the front. I feel like they should hide those supports with more mountain in the future
I went once and I had the drop and I screamed so loud bc it was my very first time and it is my favorite ride I live it.
I wonder how well this ride will age with iron reef gone and guardian on its way out soon. How long will this ride last?
it will last long
I was so lucky that the first time I rode this I got the reverse slide
You're able to get into primordial on a less busy day in around 30-50 minutes now!
I haven’t even seen the video but I know it’s a banger
A Disney park coming in Utah that a great thing
4:23 I believe a slide track is something different entirely. Isn't this just a segment of reverse track?
Definitely pulls more than I expected... I foolishly figured that, because of 3D glasses, my hat would be fine. Lost my hat!
I love how the comments on this are praising the ride and the comments on my POV are trashing it 😂
God I want to ride this with my family so much. It seems so fun with my family. I wish I coulda got in this when I was younger, hah.
Doesn't the Ferrari ride have a slide track as well.
Yes it does. My guess is that the video presenter hasn't been to that park yet
This is what I came to comment. Mission Ferrari at Ferrari World in Abu Dhabi. But that only slides down and sideways, I couldn’t determine if Primordial possible also slides in other directions. Taylor?
@@usaidhello I think it a first cause when you watch the slide, it’s not just a slide the track is tilting and counter corrects at the bottom for a smooth landing. That one small change is probably why they can say it’s a worlds first
I can imagine much down time for this ride, eventually, LOL
I'm a little concerned about the possibility of the 3d glasses flying off your head while the ride is taking sharp turns/drops.
Or is there something that holds them in?
The ride isn't extreme enough to cause that to happen. They stay on your face no problem.
@@CoasterStudios Okay that's good. Glad that doesn't happen.
Well whadya know, next year I was planning a (first ever) trip to CO. Sure UT isn't quite "right there" buuuuuuut....
Wait, doesn't Mission Ferrari have a slide track?
I think it a first cause when you watch the slide, it’s not just a slide the track is tilting and counter corrects at the bottom for a smooth landing. That one small change is probably why they can say it’s a worlds first
@CoasterObsessed looking at this one, the only real difference I see is that this one goes forward/backwards and the one on Mission Ferrari's goes sideways
if this thing had an intense layout with inversions this could easily be the best coaster in the world
"this coaster could be the best in the world if it was fundamentally different"
@@MxSignals exactly
It's commendable that you waited on line for a combined three hours as that IS a part of the ride experience BUT for the sake of everyone involved i think it would be better if you talked to the park about a few opportunities to skip the line so that your review would be more complete. That makes for a better review for us as the coaster riding public AND it's better for the park as a better review is going to get more people to Lagoon to ride this thing. If I'm Lagoon mgmt i would definitely want to enable the best and most complete experience for the channels, like yours, that influence the riding public.
Based on how probability works getting the same ending the way you did had a 1 out of 36 (2.8%) chance of happening. Incredibly unlikely, but it happened.
Lagoon doesn’t really work with influencers, so reaching out to them in advance unfortunately wouldn’t have worked :(
@@CoasterStudios I'm sure you learned that the hard way with a few of my sons managers?
I hope you know that primordial is not developed for utah. It is also in Europe under a different name. The "r&d" you speak of was finished already before they committed to building the ride.
what are you referring to that uses the same technology in Europe under a different name?
Doesn't Ferrari world have a coaster with drop track and slide track?
I believe it does but the slide track on that is a lot different than primordials
@@IndyCoasterCreatorCorrect, that one is actually a slide track.
I think it a first cause when you watch the slide, it’s not just a slide the track is tilting and counter corrects at the bottom for a smooth landing. That one small change is probably why they can say it’s a worlds first
Taylor you got your education in Utah. I don't think it's that far out there...
Theres a skeleton but there is also a troll. Whichever character lights up right there is a forshadow to which ending you will get.
I wouldnt really say „disney comes to utah“. Theres a huge gap in the themeing in my opinion. Just look at the empty plot right in front of the mqountain, taking out all the magic of the scenic view. The ride itself is really great
It is very much like Disney - 30% thrills 70% theming/visuals.
I hope that since they have this, that they keep up with the tree in the midway gift shop, and update Dracula's Castle. Especially since it now looks SO BAD compared to this ride and Terroride.
Never made a bad video
Mixed feelings on this whole ride.
Okay a few points.
First of all, I love the work that went into this video, and I absolutely love the ride; it’s the reason I got a season pass this year.
The facts in the video, though, I’m not buying. “Tallest drop track in the world”? Ummm I doubt it. I think it’s only one, maybe two, stories (feel free to dispute with sources if I’m wrong). I don’t doubt the Lagoon employees told you that, but I’d bet a large sum of money that’s not true. If someone has a source to disprove me, that’s fair and I’ll take the L.
My biggest gripe is suggesting this is on par with Disney. No. Absolutely no. Not even close. To even suggest that is pure ignorance. I agree with the point that this is incredible for a regional park, but anything more is just purely wrong.
Lagoon doesn’t engineer the rides in house. They are designed by Art engineering.
Is ART engineering not Lagoon's in-house engineering team?
@@dillanconradI don't think so, they are a German engineering firm that also builds roller coasters in general, including for other parks. I think Lagoon's director of engineering used to work for Arrow though, so they actually do a lot of the design/engineering in house. I think ART may manufacture the ride or at least the track but could be wrong about that
Art engineering was contracted out for the ride system, Lagoon still designed and manufactured all of their in house coasters
@@dillanconrad no, its a German ride manufacturer. They are mainly known for their family coasters (f.e. Snoopys racing railway at canadas wonderland) and their wild swing flat rides in Europe.
@IndyCoasterCreator Lagoon Designed it but didn't manufacture it. Technically, Triotech did. That's who ART engineering contracted for the manufacturer of the ride.
I totally agree with your thoughts! %100. I still prefer cannibal as the best ride at lagoon but primordial is definitely my second favorite coaster in the park. It is %100 worth the wait
I am like number 507
When I wrote it, I dropped. It scared me to death, LOL.
endings
ive ridden this. i am a coaster enthuaiATS
Ugh I wish they’d have just focused more on capacity and ditched the shooting aspect. Give it full-capacity 20ish seat trains that don’t have the need to rotate. I just want to sit there and enjoy the ride, not worry about shooting screens.
Seriously, the shooter element looks so lame and cheap
From what I’ve heard Lagoon will be building new coasters way less often then most other parks then they use I’m guessing because they don’t want to max out all of their land too fast and have to start removing rides just to build new ones like some parks do. I highly doubt this is the last coaster, I’m sure they will definitely be building another coaster sometime in the future.
This is not comparable to Disney or Universal; it's very good for a regional park. Their station is a McMansion, the outdoor sections look like they ran out of budget. I am not denying it's a good ride, but making the comparison to rides which are 100M+ it's not even a remotely fair comparison given the theming of those parks versus the execution here at Lagoon.
I agree that the comparison to Disney/Universal is a bit of a stretch. This ride is impressive for a regional park, no doubt. But it would need a lot of improvements to blend in at one of the previously mentioned parks.
I only compare it to Rise of the Resistance since that was one of the most ambitious rides Disney's ever done. Primordial is the most ambitious thing Lagoon has ever done. Plus, both Primordial and Rise have a drop lol
Seems a weird contrast with the rest of the park.
But its lagoon not Disney
Shooter Gringotts.
Maybe the drop track wasn't working so it was locked to one program.
Failing to see how these kinda trains are gonna work for the hollywood fast and furious lol. Another crap prototype for cali. Instead of going with something lie pantheon and escape from goth. Anyways this looks fun.
Looks like a contender for the world's best screen based dark ride. While that isn't my favourite ride genre this still looks pretty good. And hey I like Wonder Mountain's Guardian and I would like Escape From Greengotts if it were theamed to anything else (ie the IP is the issue for me there) so combine those concepts minus the transphobic IP of EfG and you've got a great dark ride.
Harry Potter is transphobic? Get a grip.
@@CultOccultyeah dude, didn't you know that the simple statement of fact that there are two sexes is now transphobic?
If there are 6 different endings then the chance you get the same one twice is really 1/36.
yea thats the chances of getting the same one twice but the chances of getting the same one as last time is 1/6.
You just said the exact same thing. What's the difference of the getting the same one twice and getting the same one as last time?
Utah is much funnier to say if you pronounce it uh-tah
Definitely not my type of ride because I like coasters more than dark rides. Id almost consider this more of a dark ride.
The german flag is upside down
They spent 10x more than WMG to make a slightly better experience than a ride no one liked lol
Primordial is way, way better then WMG. Wonder mountains guardian looked cheap and not great but primordial looks way more professionally built and has way more theming then WMG.
I’d be pretty upset if this opened at my home park, sadly. Trying not to hate, but I think the cheap shooter element just looks and feels awful
It was not cheap at all, this ride costed millions of dollars and it will be very successful
*AWFUL?!?!?*
When you ride the actual ride it's a lot more in detail and debth it ridminds me of vr but yk not on your head and this rollercoaster was very expensive