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No joke, I saw the title of the video, clicked and immediately started seeking the end of the video with conclusions to find out the MAJOR issue. Then I heard Josh addressing it while I was searching for the right timestamp :D
@@JustJoshTech Aren't you exaggerating the issue in a sense that anybody can download g helper and tweak fan curves and power levels? Can you test such configuration, please, if you got time. I was planning to buy g16 and do that.
@@moken-cf7vu in the reviews he showed, sbd already tried this without any success. Maybe Josh and his team have already verified this? But yes. Loud fan-noise in idle is a deal-breaker for any sleek Notebook, even more at this price-point. In my eyes, ASUS tried too hard being the next Razer and failed even harder.
Had issues with fan noise out of the box as well which really bothered me while I was using it for light tasks. After researching a bit, I ended up uninstalling armoury crate and installed G-Helper. Now I can have 0 fans running and my CPU temps are consistently reporting below 45 C. So don't get deterred by the fan noise as reviewed!
@@elderman64 didn’t really test the fps performance before and after, but G-Helper has definitely helped me manage my laptop exactly the way I wanted without all the asus bloat
Update for the people watching this video 5 months later. A firmware update Asus rolled out made the fans completely silent during silent mode, yes turned off entirely. And they just kick in when you change to performance or turbo mode or if you do something heavy while on silent. The temps are also better since with a lot of tabs opened on chrome with two profiles at the same time (Saying from experience because right now I'm doing exactly that!) the fans are still completely silent and temps don't reach higher than 50C. If you were bummed out on this laptop because of the fan noise now it's your time. About the performance constraints take into account that this is like a hybrid between an ultrabook and a gaming laptop. So the graphics card is going to underperform but it is in no way bad, it's actually just 5-10% slower than other laptops that use almost 50% more wattage on its graphics card. Another thing is that I only recomend the 4070 or 4080 models since the 4090 version is severely overpriced and that does underperform quite a lot, and drags the battery life to the floor.
How much of a difference is battery life between the 4080 and 4090 versions, including in eco mode with the dGPU turned off? And, how much of a performance difference is between them? The higher powered versions tested by other channels don't seem to have a huge gap between m4080 and m4090, not nearly as much as between the 4070 and 4080.
@@sjewkes1 obviously in eco mode there's no difference. But in dGpu enabled mode because the 4090 uses like 130 watts it chews the battery down and it's not even worth it since a 4090 should get at least 175 watts to have a normal performance which is not the case here and will underperform like 35% worse.
I have to say I haven't had any of the fan issues you mentioned (had the 4090 model). So that's strange (but not entirely surprising if you've ever browsed the various ASUS forums) and I wonder how widespread that issue is. With that being said, here's how my experience best summed up: Pros: • Quiet Fan (maybe just got lucky with my unit but have to say my experience was dramatically different than what Josh experienced): Laptop either had fans turned off or generally under 2000rpm and were basically inaudible. • Impressive Audio Quality: The speakers provide clear sound with great mids and bass, comparable/superior to the MacBook Pro 16 (though I did have to set Dolby Atmos to Movie-balanced mode). • Beautiful OLED VRR Screen: First of its kind and it looks stunning. But I wish they instead just ironed out the issues they had with the previous mini LED models and gave us a glass mini LED panel with anti-reflective coating. 450-ish nits is not quite enough for use in brighter environment or outside, but it's manageable. Great if you plan to use it mostly indoors, but even at night the minimum brightness is too high. With all the R&D they put into that partnership with Samsung Display, I think those ux details could've been ironed out. • Plugged-In Performance: When connected to power, the laptop delivers solid performance, showcasing a beautiful display without noticeable slowdowns. • Design and Portability: just barely over 4 pounds along with the screen size means it's the most portable gaming laptop I've ever used. • USB-C Passthrough Charging: finally, ASUS listened and gave us something we've been begging for. Will help significantly reduce battery wear while using USB C charging. Cons: • Underwhelming Core Ultra Chip Performance at Lower Power Levels: The chip did meet my hopes, especially for demanding tasks or at lower wattages. My main use cases were coding, very simple ML models, and web design. • Battery Performance: Performance dips significantly on battery power, with occasional stuttering and sluggishness in battery saver mode, and the battery life was 5-ish hours unless I manually capped the PL1/PL2, in which case it just too slow to get work done without hitches. • Hibernate and Modern Standby Issues: Modern standby needs to go away and MS should figure out how Apple does it. ASUS auto places the laptop into hibernate after like an hour which means you have to wait 10-15 seconds after turning it back on before you can use it. You can disable this, but then you get (IMO) excessive battery drain and come back later that day with 2-3% dropped every hour. • Battery Life Management: It's 2024 - can a laptop vendor just optimize the power modes on the laptop so we don't have to constantly adjustment settings to optimize performance on battery. It's a hassle for the majority of people who just want everything to work as advertised (and ASUS advertises 10 hours of battery life for web browsing). • Limited Maximum RAM: 32GB is fine for gamers but they don't even sell higher capacity models. Since everything is soldered, at least give us the option for 48 or 64. 32 is not enough for more advanced LLMs, after effects work, large photoshop files, etc. Only mentioning this because ASUS markets the G16 as a creator laptop + it even ships with Nvidia Studio drivers.
Fan noise is very subjective. I highly doubt you magically got a good unit and he somehow got THREE bad units. He also isn't working alone, so it's a consensus between several people. I would love for this to gain traction as fan noise is my biggest peeve. The laptop would be fantastic otherwise. There are mitigating strategies, like significantly reducing cpu power draw, as detailed in the review, that could lead to much cooler and quieter operation.
I have very similar use cases as you (Programming, ML, especially running Deep Learning models). The point about Ultra 9's performance surprises me, especially since it's the highest end processor in Meteor lake series. Care to elaborate what do you mean by "at lower power levels"? Did you put it into that mode using ASUS's utility? Also how's the performance when it's in performance mode instead, while still on battery (not plugged in)?
@@aoikemono6414 That's what's also surprising me. Of the several issues I have with this laptop, interestingly enough the fan noise is not one of them. I couldn't tell you why, but it's just not loud, and most of the time the fan is off. Granted I did manually set the fan speeds along a temperature curve for each power mode, but even at higher power levels the temps stay cool enough for the CPU to be adequately cooled at 2000 RPMs (I think the max is like 6 or 8k so 2k is very quiet). Also just wanted to point out that how someone hears fan noise can be subjective, but the actual dB reading at a given distance, and the fan RPMs that cause said noise, are not subjective. My point on one unit being magical and some others experiencing issues is very possible. ASUS laptops are beautifully designed, but there are countless examples of variances from unit to unit depending on how well a given laptop is manufactured (see redditors discussing issues with the LM application on their Zephyrus and Scar models), the fan curve applied for different set temperature intervals, and the ambient temperature of the room.
@@AayushSoni1196 Using G Helper (open source version of ASUS' Armoury Crate) to cap the CPU TDP in silent mode to 23W PL1 and 18W PL2. For me, that's the max amount of power draw I'd accept (would equate to 4 to 5 hours of battery depending on the other components). When it's in performance mode on battery (or Balanced as ASUS calls it), the performance is just okay. It's basically the same CPU performance as the 13900h but with GPU performance around 1.4x faster than the iGPU in the 13900h. For example (on battery), if I was trying to use an app like Upscayl that mostly makes use of the GPU, and had it on battery, I'd either have to turn on the Nvidia card (where now I'm getting like 3-4 hours of battery) or just live with each upscaling job taking 4 or 5 times as long as if the Nvidia card is running. Also even when running on silent mode with PL1/PL2 at 23/18w and letting the display auto switch to 60hz, moving between workspaces always stuttered (the animation itself had hiccups), scrolling on websites was janky, interacting with simple wordpress editor felt significantly slower than when it's plugged in (things taking long to load, having to click twice for an action to be reflected on screen, etc). For simple web browsing it was more than fine and you can get 9-10 hours, but when you start doing work it'll drop down to half that. And the benefits of having such as powerful dGPU don't apply to battery power since you'll want to disable the 4080/4090 unless you're okay with its high idle power draw, or keeping a plug nearby.
Oled is a blatantly superior option for a gaming laptop due to faster response times so the change is for the better. It would've been nice to have both options like with Blade 16 too, but I guess they didn't offer it due to redesign
Good review! I have the 4090 G16 and I’m not bothered by the fans, pretty much equivalent to the Legion Pro 7i’s I’ve tested, maybe just a slightly higher pitch. And about the same as the Zephyrus M16 as well. Definitely louder than the Razer Blade 16 though and 2023 G14. I haven’t noticed the fans in Silent mode at all personally, but I’ll test more and come back and edit this comment when I do. I was on battery in Silent mode for a few hours a couple nights in a row just browsing and watching TH-cam and fans were at 0 rpm the whole time, dead silent. I will check again on Silent when plugged in. There was a bios update last week so maybe something changed, who knows. UPDATE: Ok, so just spent some time in Silent mode plugged in to make sure I'm not crazy. Lots of tabs open, TH-cam going, and sure enough, the fans are at such a low rpm that even in a dead silent room, I have to put my ears right up to the keyboard to even tell they're on. So maybe a BIOS update fixed what Just Josh was experiencing, I'm not sure but these fans are not bad at all. The plus side is you can use a third-party software like G-Helper to really adjust your fans and wattage better. Tbh I can even hit like 14k in Time Spy in Silent mode with fans running very low, and that’s pretty insane. In Manual mode, the 4080/4090 models are given an extra 10W of base TGP (so up to 125W) and that helps a good little bit with performance. With G-Helper, you can access this adjustable base TGP in any mode you want which is also really cool. The battery life is also crazy for a 4090 laptop. I was averaging a discharge of 8 to 10W on battery with like 10 tabs open, which would be about 8-10 hours. Only other 4090 laptop you can get battery like that from is the 2023 G14. The metal build, speaker quality, thinness, and screen quality/bezel is probably the best out there of any gaming laptop I’ve used. Some people may prefer the higher brightness of mini-LED though.
Can you address the comparison to the Yoga 9i. I'm coming from the 2021 g15 and need to upgrade. I was going to get the new g16, but this video and the nonsensical soldered ram plus pricing is pushing me sadly away from asus
@@Ryezn5057 I can’t unfortunately I don’t have that one. But keep in mind that this channel is geared towards productivity. The Yoga 9i is not a gaming laptop and is not designed to be one either. You will not have nearly as much customization over things like wattage, fans, temperature limits, overclocking, custom power profiles, advanced Optimus, high combined GPU + CPU wattage, Gsync, none of that. The productivity laptops like that typically just have 3 power modes and that’s it. And you’re stuck with how they’re tuned. But if you’re not after gaming performance then they’re awesome
Josh, I had the same issues with the fan noise. With the 4080 version. I did a clean windows install and it is now far more optimized, runs cool and silent with No Fans. It's also quicker. I'm sure that some software in the background was running. Give it a try and see if it's better.
Fresh windows installs are never straightforward. Reinstalling the drivers and hoping it all plays nice without errors, or that some sequence of windows updates and driver and software installs don't screw anything up on Windows, is always a huge risk. They honestly need the factory image to be perfect to begin with, free of bugs, even if performance is not the greatest. Unfortunately Windows just isn't like that. Even on a laptop with set hardware, it can never be as reliable as something like a smartphone or tablet with a heavily tested and reliable image with no installation conflicts, permanently saved in the rom. When you buy a laptop, it should work correctly straight out of the box.
@@aoikemono6414 idk if this is my first youtube comment ever but it might be. This is wildly untrue. Reinstalling windows is incredibly simple, especially these days. I literally just did this on a G14, and windows handled all drivers for me outside of what I did myself with nvidia. I didn't even reinstall any of the asus software as I am using g-helper instead. Even firmware will come through windows updates these days though you will get those faster from included software from the manufacturer since that is the part they are actually writing for (they arent the ones providing you the drivers and never have been).
Pointing out in detail about the different pitches in fan noise was a huge thumbs up from me. Reviewers generally miss details like that and noises like that can be detrimental for someone like me during personal use.
From my G14 2024 experience, there was a moment where things seem to bug out. I too had that I couldn't get it quiet while doing nothing in quiet mode. I rebooted and replugged the power, and/or reswitched modes between performance and back to silent mode, and suddenly the fan noise was gone. The fans stopped instantly, machine was very cool still and still got 16000 in Cinebench R23. Since then I had multiple bios versions and it didn't happen again. I wonder if this is the same you had, specially since you hear a lot of people saying they have a quiet machine, and also a lot of people claiming they have a noisy machine :).
Hi, I wanted to ask you something: have you ever tried using it for video editing? What performance does it have? Then I wanted to know if, using it only for internet browsing, the battery lasts at least 4 hours. Thank you
Interesting to hear your take on fan noise. I returned my 2023 asus m16 in Lou of the 4080 G16. Noise was much quieter in my experience than the m16 and due to not having that small fan in the middle, the pitch of the noise was also less annoying. I felt that I could comfortably use the speakers while under load without much discomfort.
Love your review that focus on metrics that normal user care about. Battery life, heat, fan noise, and efficiency is rarely cover by other channel. Every manufacture can pump more power and spin fan faster, and call it a day. And the tradeoff of performance over any else is rarely worth it. I would like to see your coverage of 15 inch M3 MacBook Air with 16GB Ram and 512 GB SSD stock configuration.
typing this from my g16, 4070 version said to have the worst fan noise. during gaming or processing heavy tasks the fans can be loud, but for my use case {crypto trading and general use} for me at least, the fans have been basically silent. maybe i just got lucky but i almost didn't buy this laptop because so many reviewers said it was awful but im glad i didnt listen bc i love this laptop and the fan noise is a non issue for me. it makes me wonder if my perspective and reviewers is completely different bc i have maybe upgraded a laptop every 3 years and so many of the old laptops i used had crazy fan noise but our modern technology has made most laptops very silent so perhaps any fan noise is considered terrible for modern standards and reviewers are surrounded by the best modern tech constantly? anyway if youre buying this laptop for a more casual use case the fans arent an issue at all, gaming and heavier tasks might be a different story tho and i know the rtx 4080-4090 have a better cooling setup.
I just got it alongside the G14 and man…you’re right. the fan noise is always there, no matter what you’re doing. I’m in love with the 16” OLED screen though so I don’t know what to do. I already had a 2022 g14 and wanted something bigger. The Yoga 9i looks good but I’m not willing to downgrade in speaker and screen quality. Also numpads are dumb on gaming laptops IMO. Mini LED just isn’t OLED for me. The Razer is ridiculously expensive. I guess I just live with the fan noise. One thing I noticed about the G14 is the keyboard is brighter and the speakers are significantly louder. It actually makes no sense.
I like the fan noise on the G14 2024 much better then on the G16 2024, also got them both here like the 240Hz and bigger screen of the G16 but I think the G14 is the winner.
The reason the laptop is never quiet is because Asus decided that starting the fans up when the CPU is 30 degrees c is a good idea. Using the experimental G-helper mod that bypasses the bios to control the fans directly fixed the issue for me.
Egregious? They packed a ton of things into this beast. Also, if you look at what they did with the power brick and the screen, it's pretty impressive.
@@Admiral_Andovar Beast? Bro it under performs compared to laptops half its price. Price to performance is abysmal. Take a look at Lenovo Legion laptops with similar specs.
I have this laptop, browsing and light gaming the fans fine. It only goes loud when you push it to max efficiency. You can tweak the fans in amoury crate
Agree with the other guy. This format of presentation is great. The most important question answered first, but the rest was still interesting enough to keep me watching till the end, and believe me when i say that ive watched quite a few videos about the g16😂
I just got my 4080 version and I think the fans are just a QC issue. Mine has no fan noise while doing non-intensive tasks such as web browsing or watching a movie. Even while under load in performance mode, fan noise rarely goes above 45 dB. Hopefully not everyone has to deal with high fan noise with this amazing laptop.
Man choosing a gaming laptop never gets easier. Every year I think I’m gonna wait for next years models because there are always issues with every new model it seems. I have the razerblade 14 with 4070. It’s awesome but I hate the 14” screen. to damn small and I want an oled screen so bad so I’m gonna sell it.
@@HDRPC any other laptops you reccomend? Im looking for something i9 and 4080/4090 with at least 32 gigs of ram. I want a windows computer that does not look weird and gets the job done with relatively no major issues and its relatively quiet(Doesnt have to be quiet under load just ambient use browsing the web)
I just picked up the G16 4070 version. I can definitely hear the fans. Won't bother me, I had a 10th gen razer blade whose fans reminded me of jet turbines, so I'm used to the sound. So far, I like what I'm seeing on this thing! The audio is really solid, easily as good as my MB Pro 14
Perhaps the fan issue on silent has been fixed, I've had my G16 for nearly a week now and I've spent a good deal of time with it unplugged in silent with the dGPU disabled and while it has gotten warm, the fans haven't spun up. I even put my ear to it a few times just to be sure. I'm usually watching youtube or writing in this mode. Perhaps mileage will vary.
Pricing in Germany: 1.999,00 € for the 4050 2.499,00 € for the 4060 2.699,00 € for the 4070 3.599,00 € for the 4080 4.299,00 € for the 4090 my condolences for German buyers
The US reviewers like Josh are great, but the reality of pricing outside the US is that this and other Windows laptops are significantly more expensive for some models.
That's weird, I've had mine (4090 version) now for a couple of weeks and I have had very little issue with the fan noise. When under load it goes pretty good but isn't as bad as my previous gaming laptop. When I'm doing writing on it, the fans aren't even going.
Still not an issue? Thinking of buying the 4050 version, which should in theory produce even less fan noise since it doesnt generate the same amount of heat.
I wonder if part of the issue is Armoury Crate? I had fan/heat issues on my 2023 M16 and the deck was always really warm no matter what I was doing due to high CPU temps. Changed to G Helper as had been suggested and have had no more issues. Barely hear the fan and even with moderate workloads the CPU is staying at around 44 - 55 degrees C where it was around 65 - 80 previously (even when doing very little). Fans can still get loud when gaming on Turbo mode, but I mostly keep it at balanced where it's still loud, but not terribly so.
I really enjoy watching your reviews even if the product isn't something I would actually buy. I have almost entirely switched over to Macs for nearly everything and a gaming laptop isn't something for me since I don't play games on PC (only Xbox and Switch) but it is still cool to see what is out on the market right now.
Hey Josh Great video as always, especially adressing the main concern of the video in the first 1 minute. This stands out as most youtubers would make you watch the entire video to find something out. Anyways, I was also wondering if you could review the recently revised lenovo ideapad pro 5i. It now has a core ultra 7 155H processor and thought it could be a good video to compare this ideapad to other core ultra laptops like the new zenbook or spectre 14.
I would get this one. When i game i wear headphones and having a full size laptop that wont break my back will be huge. If they keep it exactly like this for next year i am sold
Great review, Josh. I've been thinking about getting the G14 with RTX4050 and would love to hear your thoughts. (I currently use the Yoga slim 7 pro. I owned a Legion Slim 7 a few years back but it's too hot and not so efficient.) This would be my only al-round laptop I use for both office works and entertainment (web browsing/TH-cam/Netflix let's say 70% and gaming 30%). My main concern is the heat and battery consumption on light load when I bring the laptop outside. Would the G14 be an appropriate choice for this?
Great review, JJ and Team! Eeesh, how can Asus improve the fan noise when the surface temps get that hot? I bet the components are cool enough but it's the actual surface temps that need to be under control, resulting in Asus tuning the fans to behave this way. I love how Asus takes a swing and redesigns its machines every couple years, or every year in some cases; but i feel like this time they took the thinness just a hair too far. A couple mm of extra thickness would have gone a long way, I think, in terms of cooler surface temps and quieter fans. (And with this comment, I admit I know nothing about computer design; i am sure Asus employs some damn good people who know what they're doing. It just seems from afar and from a layperson that the design team won some battles over the engineering team this time around.)
Hey Josh, love your backgrounds on each aspect in incredible detail. I could not find another TH-camr that went over real world use of the NPU in the core ultra. Would you be able to make a video on real world use cases of the 512 MB or 1 GB NPU?
Let me preface this by saying that I am extremely new to optimizing laptops but would undervolting the cpu help with the big issues of heat and fan noise as you said that the cpu gets such bad diminishing returns?
thank u,u r the only who said whats important,heat and noise..none of the other reviews ever mention it,makes u believe they never played or owned rog..thanx man
@@rajyavardhansingh4491no. Jarrod Tech is too much of a spec hungry detail oriented tech nerd and his opinions are not reliable or useful and lacks in basics for day to day practical usage of the machine. For example, better to buy a laptop from a reliable brand with good after sales service and security practices and track record and install good paid or FOSS programs for your use case and the Laptop should not have long term issues, and you see, Jarrod Tech would focus on which laptop gives 10 frame rates more which is not needed. This is also the reason why most tech channels are not useful, and seems people don't like to read. The likes of Jarrod Tech and Mrwhosetheboss are the worst. They sustain and make grow a sensual and titillating consumerist tech culture and glorify materialism and lust for gadgetry. These devices are just limited tools, best used for learning, probably in-depth reading and other productive and life nurturing things. Not being into social media to buy Tech to further consume social media on it to further buy tech!
@@rajyavardhansingh4491no. Jarrod Tech is too much of a spec hungry detail oriented tech nerd and his opinions are not reliable or useful and lacks in basics for day to day practical usage of the machine. For example, better to buy a laptop from a reliable brand with good after sales service and security practices and track record and install good paid or FOSS programs for your use case and the Laptop should not have long term issues, and you see, Jarrod Tech would focus on which laptop gives 10 frame rates more which is not needed. This is also the reason why most tech channels are not useful, and seems people don't like to read. The likes of Jarrod Tech and Mrwhosetheboss are the worst. They sustain and make grow a sensual and titillating consumerist tech culture and glorify materialism and lust for gadgetry. These devices are just limited tools, best used for learning, probably in-depth reading and other productive and life nurturing things. Not being into social media to buy Tech to further consume social media on it to further buy tech!
@@andyH_England Im buying from the US so pricing is less crazy. Its pretty much in line with the M16 when it was released and Imma wait til at least Black Friday anyway when sales are going on
There is a MUCH bigger issue with this generations G series -- soldered RAM. If you're gaming the recommendation is fairly unanimous that 16 gb is quickly becoming too little for gaming in 2024, giving this laptop fewer years of adequate specs for gaming. The worst of this is that the models with low to mid tier GPUs only come with 16 gb of RAM (for the G16s) pigeon-holing consumers into buying the 4080 or 4090 versions to get 32 gigs of RAM. It's extremely anti-consumer to have taken this direction as previous gens had upgradeable RAM. Shame Asus, shammmme!
I was thinking of getting the G14 model from this brand/series but it’s quite expensive, would you recommend it? i’m not gonna use it for something specifically but i would like to buy a laptop and not have to worry about buying another for the next 5 years at least, would that make the price worth it? any thoughts on the laptop itself?
Thanks Josh for the video examples of the fan noise. Holy crap that's awful. Keybard and underside temps are also so useful as someone who works on commute and has my laptop on my lap. Those 4070 temps are miserable.
Can the fan noise be fixed with updates? Or will it stay like that? I mean the fans don't bother me normally but they seem really loud and maybe I wanna learn in a Library, I think then it's a problem. The fans on the g14 are better?
@@houssamalucad753 but then I buy it now, live with the fan noise some months and then it gets better and I will be happier. I would go with the yoga if the mouse pad wouldn't be so much left and with oled. But it's not so i have to go with asus
Is the M3 MacBook Air 15 a good laptop for a junior software developer? Obviously would upgrade RAM and SSD. Perhaps even the M2 is a good buy for a decent discount.
By the time you upgrade the RAM and SSD, you’re not far off the M3 Pro 14 that has more ports and a better display. You could also get a refurbished M2 Pro 14 or even the 16.
The zephyrus lineup is great but feels like it stuck beetwen 2 ends. I have a zenbook 14 currently which is honestly just awsome in all aspects. I am looking to upgrade tho because of gaming preferences, i would rather get the strix 16 for the same price as the zephyrus 16.
Hmm still getting the 4080 this Friday thanks for the Windows reinstall tip. I currently have a 3080 8gb zephyrs and really love them so let’s see if this can win me over. Oh and to add my current model is silent when in windows or silent mode so let’s see. If it is true that this is loud then I am sending it back
I bought the Ultra 9 + 4060 + 32GB RAM. It has so many great things to be said about it but the issues mentioned in the video are just too much to justify for this kind of price point. 😡 The whistle noise is driving me insane. Even wearing headphones doesn't block it off as it is high-pitched. 😡 It is Hot, like very hot, in both Heavy (gaming - CPU up to 94C) and Light (browsing - CPU around 70C) use scenarios. 😡 It is Never completely silent, fan noise while simply using a browser or Word is annoying as hell, especially when you are working for several hours in a row. 👉 All and all, don't buy this laptop with the Tri-Fan configuration, it is not efficient, and loud. Maybe the 4080 is the only good option, as you should expect the 4090 to be even hotter, and therefore underperform.
how did you get such good battery life? I tried the G14 and G16. The G14 Ryzen lasted 8-9 hours while the G16 dies in under 4! The fans ramp up really fast and it always stays hot. Did you disable cores or undervolt the CPU? My general impression is that Intel should just stop making laptop CPUs because they don't know how to! Intel by far has the worst power efficiency - so bad that it almost makes them look incompetent! Even back in the day when I used macbooks I used intel on them... and they were terrible!
This guy always makes great reviews. From different perspectives to different use cases, as he himself relates to many real world use cases. Thank you for being a youber.👍
I bought it. Used it for four days then returned it. Poor ergonomics, incredibly noisy fan, erratic performance, loaded with system killing bloatware like armor crate. In short, technical rubbish.
Like this channel’s content, usually very informative reviews . One.thing I don’t get odd abous why the constant references to the apple macbook? If you are in the market for a windows gaming pc I don’t think that comparison is helpful. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. No pun intended. If I want and am looking for an orange, I don’t want to hear about how good an apple is.
Let me answer this very succicntly as I do get asked this from time to time. This channel is not a laptop review channel. It's about finding the best laptop for different users. Many of my viewers are working professionals. They develop software, they work in offices, they create, or they are students. Many of the applications they users use, work on both platforms. So people can switch between Mac and Windows. And if they want "the best" if they can, they should switch. That being said, I do recognize that many people have specific reasons to use a PC, whether OS preference or they do something like gaming, which is much better on PC. Therefore in this video I gave 2 alternative recommendations. A Mac and a PC. However I focussed far more on the comparison with the PC alternative, the Yoga Pro 9i.
Macs are what all Windows machines should aspire to. Their efficiency, performance per watt, thermals, and fan noise, to name a few. It is always good to see how a Windows laptop compares with the undisputed King of laptops. But I get your point; if you are buying the G16 for gaming, though not everyone will be, then although inferior to the Mac, it has better gaming support, so it would be a default choice.
Again excellent Sir, can you please tell us that it has custom fan tuning option or not? If it has custom fan so we can reduce fan speed according to our need.
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The loud noise apparently was a Driver issue that have been since fixed. You should pin a comment saying so.
Josh addressing my biggest question in the first 30 seconds. Still watched the whole video anyway.
You got it
Honestly it's great to get the dealbreakers out of the way at the beginning.
No joke, I saw the title of the video, clicked and immediately started seeking the end of the video with conclusions to find out the MAJOR issue. Then I heard Josh addressing it while I was searching for the right timestamp :D
@@JustJoshTech Aren't you exaggerating the issue in a sense that anybody can download g helper and tweak fan curves and power levels? Can you test such configuration, please, if you got time. I was planning to buy g16 and do that.
@@moken-cf7vu in the reviews he showed, sbd already tried this without any success. Maybe Josh and his team have already verified this?
But yes. Loud fan-noise in idle is a deal-breaker for any sleek Notebook, even more at this price-point.
In my eyes, ASUS tried too hard being the next Razer and failed even harder.
Had issues with fan noise out of the box as well which really bothered me while I was using it for light tasks. After researching a bit, I ended up uninstalling armoury crate and installed G-Helper. Now I can have 0 fans running and my CPU temps are consistently reporting below 45 C.
So don't get deterred by the fan noise as reviewed!
same experience here!
good looking out
Hi, did using G helper increase the fps in any noticeable manner? Thx
@@elderman64 didn’t really test the fps performance before and after, but G-Helper has definitely helped me manage my laptop exactly the way I wanted without all the asus bloat
hello how are the temps while gaming? after installing g-helper? and if its better what other tweaks have u made?
Update for the people watching this video 5 months later. A firmware update Asus rolled out made the fans completely silent during silent mode, yes turned off entirely. And they just kick in when you change to performance or turbo mode or if you do something heavy while on silent. The temps are also better since with a lot of tabs opened on chrome with two profiles at the same time (Saying from experience because right now I'm doing exactly that!) the fans are still completely silent and temps don't reach higher than 50C. If you were bummed out on this laptop because of the fan noise now it's your time. About the performance constraints take into account that this is like a hybrid between an ultrabook and a gaming laptop. So the graphics card is going to underperform but it is in no way bad, it's actually just 5-10% slower than other laptops that use almost 50% more wattage on its graphics card. Another thing is that I only recomend the 4070 or 4080 models since the 4090 version is severely overpriced and that does underperform quite a lot, and drags the battery life to the floor.
Good comment. We are actually working on an updated video
Thank you for the comment, I’m thinking on buying it with a 4080 with a 35% discount
@@marcoleti5809Which site please?
How much of a difference is battery life between the 4080 and 4090 versions, including in eco mode with the dGPU turned off? And, how much of a performance difference is between them? The higher powered versions tested by other channels don't seem to have a huge gap between m4080 and m4090, not nearly as much as between the 4070 and 4080.
@@sjewkes1 obviously in eco mode there's no difference. But in dGpu enabled mode because the 4090 uses like 130 watts it chews the battery down and it's not even worth it since a 4090 should get at least 175 watts to have a normal performance which is not the case here and will underperform like 35% worse.
Thank you for being honest! I too hate fan noise, its not even worth considering buying laptops that have terrible fan noise! Kudos to this channel!
I have to say I haven't had any of the fan issues you mentioned (had the 4090 model). So that's strange (but not entirely surprising if you've ever browsed the various ASUS forums) and I wonder how widespread that issue is.
With that being said, here's how my experience best summed up:
Pros:
• Quiet Fan (maybe just got lucky with my unit but have to say my experience was dramatically different than what Josh experienced): Laptop either had fans turned off or generally under 2000rpm and were basically inaudible.
• Impressive Audio Quality: The speakers provide clear sound with great mids and bass, comparable/superior to the MacBook Pro 16 (though I did have to set Dolby Atmos to Movie-balanced mode).
• Beautiful OLED VRR Screen: First of its kind and it looks stunning. But I wish they instead just ironed out the issues they had with the previous mini LED models and gave us a glass mini LED panel with anti-reflective coating. 450-ish nits is not quite enough for use in brighter environment or outside, but it's manageable. Great if you plan to use it mostly indoors, but even at night the minimum brightness is too high. With all the R&D they put into that partnership with Samsung Display, I think those ux details could've been ironed out.
• Plugged-In Performance: When connected to power, the laptop delivers solid performance, showcasing a beautiful display without noticeable slowdowns.
• Design and Portability: just barely over 4 pounds along with the screen size means it's the most portable gaming laptop I've ever used.
• USB-C Passthrough Charging: finally, ASUS listened and gave us something we've been begging for. Will help significantly reduce battery wear while using USB C charging.
Cons:
• Underwhelming Core Ultra Chip Performance at Lower Power Levels: The chip did meet my hopes, especially for demanding tasks or at lower wattages. My main use cases were coding, very simple ML models, and web design.
• Battery Performance: Performance dips significantly on battery power, with occasional stuttering and sluggishness in battery saver mode, and the battery life was 5-ish hours unless I manually capped the PL1/PL2, in which case it just too slow to get work done without hitches.
• Hibernate and Modern Standby Issues: Modern standby needs to go away and MS should figure out how Apple does it. ASUS auto places the laptop into hibernate after like an hour which means you have to wait 10-15 seconds after turning it back on before you can use it. You can disable this, but then you get (IMO) excessive battery drain and come back later that day with 2-3% dropped every hour.
• Battery Life Management: It's 2024 - can a laptop vendor just optimize the power modes on the laptop so we don't have to constantly adjustment settings to optimize performance on battery. It's a hassle for the majority of people who just want everything to work as advertised (and ASUS advertises 10 hours of battery life for web browsing).
• Limited Maximum RAM: 32GB is fine for gamers but they don't even sell higher capacity models. Since everything is soldered, at least give us the option for 48 or 64. 32 is not enough for more advanced LLMs, after effects work, large photoshop files, etc. Only mentioning this because ASUS markets the G16 as a creator laptop + it even ships with Nvidia Studio drivers.
Fan noise is very subjective. I highly doubt you magically got a good unit and he somehow got THREE bad units. He also isn't working alone, so it's a consensus between several people. I would love for this to gain traction as fan noise is my biggest peeve. The laptop would be fantastic otherwise. There are mitigating strategies, like significantly reducing cpu power draw, as detailed in the review, that could lead to much cooler and quieter operation.
I have very similar use cases as you (Programming, ML, especially running Deep Learning models). The point about Ultra 9's performance surprises me, especially since it's the highest end processor in Meteor lake series. Care to elaborate what do you mean by "at lower power levels"? Did you put it into that mode using ASUS's utility? Also how's the performance when it's in performance mode instead, while still on battery (not plugged in)?
@@aoikemono6414 That's what's also surprising me. Of the several issues I have with this laptop, interestingly enough the fan noise is not one of them. I couldn't tell you why, but it's just not loud, and most of the time the fan is off.
Granted I did manually set the fan speeds along a temperature curve for each power mode, but even at higher power levels the temps stay cool enough for the CPU to be adequately cooled at 2000 RPMs (I think the max is like 6 or 8k so 2k is very quiet).
Also just wanted to point out that how someone hears fan noise can be subjective, but the actual dB reading at a given distance, and the fan RPMs that cause said noise, are not subjective. My point on one unit being magical and some others experiencing issues is very possible.
ASUS laptops are beautifully designed, but there are countless examples of variances from unit to unit depending on how well a given laptop is manufactured (see redditors discussing issues with the LM application on their Zephyrus and Scar models), the fan curve applied for different set temperature intervals, and the ambient temperature of the room.
@@AayushSoni1196 Using G Helper (open source version of ASUS' Armoury Crate) to cap the CPU TDP in silent mode to 23W PL1 and 18W PL2. For me, that's the max amount of power draw I'd accept (would equate to 4 to 5 hours of battery depending on the other components).
When it's in performance mode on battery (or Balanced as ASUS calls it), the performance is just okay. It's basically the same CPU performance as the 13900h but with GPU performance around 1.4x faster than the iGPU in the 13900h.
For example (on battery), if I was trying to use an app like Upscayl that mostly makes use of the GPU, and had it on battery, I'd either have to turn on the Nvidia card (where now I'm getting like 3-4 hours of battery) or just live with each upscaling job taking 4 or 5 times as long as if the Nvidia card is running.
Also even when running on silent mode with PL1/PL2 at 23/18w and letting the display auto switch to 60hz, moving between workspaces always stuttered (the animation itself had hiccups), scrolling on websites was janky, interacting with simple wordpress editor felt significantly slower than when it's plugged in (things taking long to load, having to click twice for an action to be reflected on screen, etc).
For simple web browsing it was more than fine and you can get 9-10 hours, but when you start doing work it'll drop down to half that. And the benefits of having such as powerful dGPU don't apply to battery power since you'll want to disable the 4080/4090 unless you're okay with its high idle power draw, or keeping a plug nearby.
Oled is a blatantly superior option for a gaming laptop due to faster response times so the change is for the better. It would've been nice to have both options like with Blade 16 too, but I guess they didn't offer it due to redesign
Good review! I have the 4090 G16 and I’m not bothered by the fans, pretty much equivalent to the Legion Pro 7i’s I’ve tested, maybe just a slightly higher pitch. And about the same as the Zephyrus M16 as well. Definitely louder than the Razer Blade 16 though and 2023 G14. I haven’t noticed the fans in Silent mode at all personally, but I’ll test more and come back and edit this comment when I do. I was on battery in Silent mode for a few hours a couple nights in a row just browsing and watching TH-cam and fans were at 0 rpm the whole time, dead silent. I will check again on Silent when plugged in. There was a bios update last week so maybe something changed, who knows.
UPDATE: Ok, so just spent some time in Silent mode plugged in to make sure I'm not crazy. Lots of tabs open, TH-cam going, and sure enough, the fans are at such a low rpm that even in a dead silent room, I have to put my ears right up to the keyboard to even tell they're on. So maybe a BIOS update fixed what Just Josh was experiencing, I'm not sure but these fans are not bad at all.
The plus side is you can use a third-party software like G-Helper to really adjust your fans and wattage better. Tbh I can even hit like 14k in Time Spy in Silent mode with fans running very low, and that’s pretty insane.
In Manual mode, the 4080/4090 models are given an extra 10W of base TGP (so up to 125W) and that helps a good little bit with performance. With G-Helper, you can access this adjustable base TGP in any mode you want which is also really cool.
The battery life is also crazy for a 4090 laptop. I was averaging a discharge of 8 to 10W on battery with like 10 tabs open, which would be about 8-10 hours. Only other 4090 laptop you can get battery like that from is the 2023 G14.
The metal build, speaker quality, thinness, and screen quality/bezel is probably the best out there of any gaming laptop I’ve used. Some people may prefer the higher brightness of mini-LED though.
can ghelper address these issues
@@skimandlavery easily, yes
Yo when can we expect YOUR review of the G16 though? Even better if you have some Ghelper config that we can follow
Can you address the comparison to the Yoga 9i. I'm coming from the 2021 g15 and need to upgrade. I was going to get the new g16, but this video and the nonsensical soldered ram plus pricing is pushing me sadly away from asus
@@Ryezn5057 I can’t unfortunately I don’t have that one. But keep in mind that this channel is geared towards productivity. The Yoga 9i is not a gaming laptop and is not designed to be one either. You will not have nearly as much customization over things like wattage, fans, temperature limits, overclocking, custom power profiles, advanced Optimus, high combined GPU + CPU wattage, Gsync, none of that. The productivity laptops like that typically just have 3 power modes and that’s it. And you’re stuck with how they’re tuned. But if you’re not after gaming performance then they’re awesome
I've never heard someone pronounce Zephyrus like that. Now I'm not sure If I've been butchering the name or if you did lol.
Australian people love to pronounce things different lol
Same. Though I like his pronunciation more than mine. Sounds cooler.
@@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALSyeah nah, I’m Aussie and I pronounce it as “Zefeerus”
Mandela effect for me: I always thought it was spelled "Zeyphrus" because of how people pronounce it
Living in a tropical country. Fan noise is the last we worry about.
then, It blows hot exhaust air into the screen
Josh, I had the same issues with the fan noise. With the 4080 version. I did a clean windows install and it is now far more optimized, runs cool and silent with No Fans. It's also quicker. I'm sure that some software in the background was running. Give it a try and see if it's better.
How did you do a clean install ?
Thanks
I been hitting 95c when playing cyberpunk , have you experienced high temps when playing ?
Now bring in the real experts
Fresh windows installs are never straightforward. Reinstalling the drivers and hoping it all plays nice without errors, or that some sequence of windows updates and driver and software installs don't screw anything up on Windows, is always a huge risk. They honestly need the factory image to be perfect to begin with, free of bugs, even if performance is not the greatest. Unfortunately Windows just isn't like that. Even on a laptop with set hardware, it can never be as reliable as something like a smartphone or tablet with a heavily tested and reliable image with no installation conflicts, permanently saved in the rom.
When you buy a laptop, it should work correctly straight out of the box.
@@aoikemono6414 idk if this is my first youtube comment ever but it might be. This is wildly untrue. Reinstalling windows is incredibly simple, especially these days. I literally just did this on a G14, and windows handled all drivers for me outside of what I did myself with nvidia. I didn't even reinstall any of the asus software as I am using g-helper instead. Even firmware will come through windows updates these days though you will get those faster from included software from the manufacturer since that is the part they are actually writing for (they arent the ones providing you the drivers and never have been).
Fan noise isn’t an issue for me, as long as its temps are okay!
Pointing out in detail about the different pitches in fan noise was a huge thumbs up from me. Reviewers generally miss details like that and noises like that can be detrimental for someone like me during personal use.
Nobody gets a Ferrari v12 expecting it to be quiet 😉
From my G14 2024 experience, there was a moment where things seem to bug out. I too had that I couldn't get it quiet while doing nothing in quiet mode. I rebooted and replugged the power, and/or reswitched modes between performance and back to silent mode, and suddenly the fan noise was gone. The fans stopped instantly, machine was very cool still and still got 16000 in Cinebench R23. Since then I had multiple bios versions and it didn't happen again. I wonder if this is the same you had, specially since you hear a lot of people saying they have a quiet machine, and also a lot of people claiming they have a noisy machine :).
Delete armory crate and use G-Helper
Hi, I wanted to ask you something: have you ever tried using it for video editing? What performance does it have?
Then I wanted to know if, using it only for internet browsing, the battery lasts at least 4 hours.
Thank you
never used it for video editing, but just browsing lasted me 9+hours
@@The_Bible_Camp_Victim that is awesome.
Interesting to hear your take on fan noise. I returned my 2023 asus m16 in Lou of the 4080 G16. Noise was much quieter in my experience than the m16 and due to not having that small fan in the middle, the pitch of the noise was also less annoying. I felt that I could comfortably use the speakers while under load without much discomfort.
How about those thermals on the g16? Mine idled at 70c and had to return it.
@@yepcok2702mine idles around 45-60 c
Love your review that focus on metrics that normal user care about. Battery life, heat, fan noise, and efficiency is rarely cover by other channel. Every manufacture can pump more power and spin fan faster, and call it a day. And the tradeoff of performance over any else is rarely worth it. I would like to see your coverage of 15 inch M3 MacBook Air with 16GB Ram and 512 GB SSD stock configuration.
typing this from my g16, 4070 version said to have the worst fan noise. during gaming or processing heavy tasks the fans can be loud, but for my use case {crypto trading and general use} for me at least, the fans have been basically silent. maybe i just got lucky but i almost didn't buy this laptop because so many reviewers said it was awful but im glad i didnt listen bc i love this laptop and the fan noise is a non issue for me. it makes me wonder if my perspective and reviewers is completely different bc i have maybe upgraded a laptop every 3 years and so many of the old laptops i used had crazy fan noise but our modern technology has made most laptops very silent so perhaps any fan noise is considered terrible for modern standards and reviewers are surrounded by the best modern tech constantly? anyway if youre buying this laptop for a more casual use case the fans arent an issue at all, gaming and heavier tasks might be a different story tho and i know the rtx 4080-4090 have a better cooling setup.
Hey what CPU do you have in it? And is the laptop cool enough to sit on your lap while working?
haven't seen such detailed info anywhere else. absolute gorgeous work josh.
Is the room hot? I got the version with 4070 and I barely hear any fan when browsing
Do you really not hear any noise in the 4070 version?
@@maisaad6431 He's either deaf or lying .. xD
I just got it alongside the G14 and man…you’re right. the fan noise is always there, no matter what you’re doing. I’m in love with the 16” OLED screen though so I don’t know what to do. I already had a 2022 g14 and wanted something bigger. The Yoga 9i looks good but I’m not willing to downgrade in speaker and screen quality. Also numpads are dumb on gaming laptops IMO. Mini LED just isn’t OLED for me. The Razer is ridiculously expensive. I guess I just live with the fan noise.
One thing I noticed about the G14 is the keyboard is brighter and the speakers are significantly louder. It actually makes no sense.
For you I'd probably recommend last years Zenbook 14 pro 4070, ticks a lot of boxes and good all arounder.
@@harambe5815I like this year’s G14 but I already have a 14” and want 16”
I like the fan noise on the G14 2024 much better then on the G16 2024, also got them both here like the 240Hz and bigger screen of the G16 but I think the G14 is the winner.
The reason the laptop is never quiet is because Asus decided that starting the fans up when the CPU is 30 degrees c is a good idea. Using the experimental G-helper mod that bypasses the bios to control the fans directly fixed the issue for me.
This is helpful. Thank you. Please note, though, that it won't fix the high-pitched sound, which is due to physical airflow
@@JustJoshTechI don't notice any whistling noises. I don't have the third fan though.
Thanks for this review. Addressed my number one concern right away.
its a gaming laptop. Go get a mac if you don't want to hear fans
I love watching expensive laptop on my 100 dollar dell latitude. Yippee
Don't worry it will last just as much if not more.😂
I am on the exact same laptop😂😂😂
After years with a microsoft surface and a macbook air I forgot that laptops have fan noises
Loved how you didn't address the egregious pricing. Proud of you
Egregious? They packed a ton of things into this beast. Also, if you look at what they did with the power brick and the screen, it's pretty impressive.
@@Admiral_Andovar Beast? Bro it under performs compared to laptops half its price. Price to performance is abysmal. Take a look at Lenovo Legion laptops with similar specs.
you should give ghelper a try. It helped me with the fan noise problem and also gives me better control for my 2022 G15
I have this laptop, browsing and light gaming the fans fine. It only goes loud when you push it to max efficiency. You can tweak the fans in amoury crate
Agree with the other guy. This format of presentation is great. The most important question answered first, but the rest was still interesting enough to keep me watching till the end, and believe me when i say that ive watched quite a few videos about the g16😂
I just got my 4080 version and I think the fans are just a QC issue. Mine has no fan noise while doing non-intensive tasks such as web browsing or watching a movie. Even while under load in performance mode, fan noise rarely goes above 45 dB. Hopefully not everyone has to deal with high fan noise with this amazing laptop.
While it may not fix fan noise issues, it sounds like this laptop would benefit from an undervolt for temps and efficiency
We definitely tried that. And I agree. It doesn't hurt
Man choosing a gaming laptop never gets easier. Every year I think I’m gonna wait for next years models because there are always issues with every new model it seems. I have the razerblade 14 with 4070. It’s awesome but I hate the 14” screen. to damn small and I want an oled screen so bad so I’m gonna sell it.
Me : yes I might have at last found a replacement to my Zenbook pro UX501 !
Josh : fan noise
Me : ok nop...
Thatswhy Intel didn't provided EVO certificate Black EVO sticker.
Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i 2024 is great.
No RTX 4080 and higher options though
@@mcslender2965 true but overall for a laptop it is great.
If you want to do more heavy work so choose another laptop or desktop
@@HDRPC any other laptops you reccomend? Im looking for something i9 and 4080/4090 with at least 32 gigs of ram. I want a windows computer that does not look weird and gets the job done with relatively no major issues and its relatively quiet(Doesnt have to be quiet under load just ambient use browsing the web)
Really appreciate the contrast with the Yoga 9i. Great laptop for comparison and consideration. Been very tempted to the Yoga Pro 9i for awhile now.
I just picked up the G16 4070 version. I can definitely hear the fans. Won't bother me, I had a 10th gen razer blade whose fans reminded me of jet turbines, so I'm used to the sound. So far, I like what I'm seeing on this thing! The audio is really solid, easily as good as my MB Pro 14
Heard people saying that the issue of fan noise is because of armory crate
Alot of people uninstall it and install G Helper and get no fan noise
@@polargoat8785a windows reinstall and proper tweaking through G-Helper help a lot
Update?
@@frakkks Still no issues with mine
Perhaps the fan issue on silent has been fixed, I've had my G16 for nearly a week now and I've spent a good deal of time with it unplugged in silent with the dGPU disabled and while it has gotten warm, the fans haven't spun up. I even put my ear to it a few times just to be sure. I'm usually watching youtube or writing in this mode. Perhaps mileage will vary.
Good to hear. How many hours of battery life are you getting on that use cae?
stopped watching this movie on 0:24 ^^ Thx Josh
1:14 this is not undervolting, this is simply setting a power limit.
Pricing in Germany:
1.999,00 € for the 4050
2.499,00 € for the 4060
2.699,00 € for the 4070
3.599,00 € for the 4080
4.299,00 € for the 4090
my condolences for German buyers
now imagine that but with the lower Mediterranean wages
@@xerzy yeah prices in all of Europe are insane
The US reviewers like Josh are great, but the reality of pricing outside the US is that this and other Windows laptops are significantly more expensive for some models.
Josh, awesome review as always. Is the noise issue as bad in the G14? Noticed the similar dB measurements.
G14 is a bit better. Still high pitched and still not great, but it's better yes
That's weird, I've had mine (4090 version) now for a couple of weeks and I have had very little issue with the fan noise. When under load it goes pretty good but isn't as bad as my previous gaming laptop. When I'm doing writing on it, the fans aren't even going.
Still not an issue? Thinking of buying the 4050 version, which should in theory produce even less fan noise since it doesnt generate the same amount of heat.
@@nippe923 Not that I've had.
The laptop companies should take notes from your videos to make their products better 😁
Great review!
I wonder if part of the issue is Armoury Crate? I had fan/heat issues on my 2023 M16 and the deck was always really warm no matter what I was doing due to high CPU temps. Changed to G Helper as had been suggested and have had no more issues. Barely hear the fan and even with moderate workloads the CPU is staying at around 44 - 55 degrees C where it was around 65 - 80 previously (even when doing very little). Fans can still get loud when gaming on Turbo mode, but I mostly keep it at balanced where it's still loud, but not terribly so.
hello what is G helper?
You got me. Liked and subbed. Ty for your honest reviews
Great review as usual! Any plans to do 2024 Razer Blade 16s with 4080 or 4090?
I really enjoy watching your reviews even if the product isn't something I would actually buy. I have almost entirely switched over to Macs for nearly everything and a gaming laptop isn't something for me since I don't play games on PC (only Xbox and Switch) but it is still cool to see what is out on the market right now.
Hey Josh
Great video as always, especially adressing the main concern of the video in the first 1 minute. This stands out as most youtubers would make you watch the entire video to find something out. Anyways, I was also wondering if you could review the recently revised lenovo ideapad pro 5i. It now has a core ultra 7 155H processor and thought it could be a good video to compare this ideapad to other core ultra laptops like the new zenbook or spectre 14.
Direct and straight to the point. That's why I watch!
Love your reviews!
I would get this one. When i game i wear headphones and having a full size laptop that wont break my back will be huge. If they keep it exactly like this for next year i am sold
Then its great. Totally great for that!
Great review, Josh. I've been thinking about getting the G14 with RTX4050 and would love to hear your thoughts. (I currently use the Yoga slim 7 pro. I owned a Legion Slim 7 a few years back but it's too hot and not so efficient.) This would be my only al-round laptop I use for both office works and entertainment (web browsing/TH-cam/Netflix let's say 70% and gaming 30%). My main concern is the heat and battery consumption on light load when I bring the laptop outside. Would the G14 be an appropriate choice for this?
Hi josh great vid do you have any clue what the rpms are on the fan on full/min load? Thanks!
Great review, JJ and Team! Eeesh, how can Asus improve the fan noise when the surface temps get that hot? I bet the components are cool enough but it's the actual surface temps that need to be under control, resulting in Asus tuning the fans to behave this way. I love how Asus takes a swing and redesigns its machines every couple years, or every year in some cases; but i feel like this time they took the thinness just a hair too far. A couple mm of extra thickness would have gone a long way, I think, in terms of cooler surface temps and quieter fans. (And with this comment, I admit I know nothing about computer design; i am sure Asus employs some damn good people who know what they're doing. It just seems from afar and from a layperson that the design team won some battles over the engineering team this time around.)
Make a video about what to check , step by step , when buying a used, private sale Macbook from Ebay, with no warranty
In my country,they are going to sell the 4070 model with 32gb of ram for the same price as the 4080 model shown in the video here.
After removing blessed amoury crate, my G16's fan speed drop significantly. In quiet mode, G16 maintain 0 fan speed constantly now.
what are your temps?
Excellent review. Subbed! Blade 16 4090 in the works?
Hey Josh, love your backgrounds on each aspect in incredible detail. I could not find another TH-camr that went over real world use of the NPU in the core ultra. Would you be able to make a video on real world use cases of the 512 MB or 1 GB NPU?
Let me preface this by saying that I am extremely new to optimizing laptops but would undervolting the cpu help with the big issues of heat and fan noise as you said that the cpu gets such bad diminishing returns?
thank u,u r the only who said whats important,heat and noise..none of the other reviews ever mention it,makes u believe they never played or owned rog..thanx man
Excellent video. When can we expect the full review for the 2024 Lenovo Yoga 9i 2-in-1? 😁
We are finishing the script right now.... but i'm distracted responding to your comment
@@JustJoshTech lol 🤣
This is my favorite tech channel, love the transparency!
Second to Jarrod Tech
@@rajyavardhansingh4491no. Jarrod Tech is too much of a spec hungry detail oriented tech nerd and his opinions are not reliable or useful and lacks in basics for day to day practical usage of the machine. For example, better to buy a laptop from a reliable brand with good after sales service and security practices and track record and install good paid or FOSS programs for your use case and the Laptop should not have long term issues, and you see, Jarrod Tech would focus on which laptop gives 10 frame rates more which is not needed. This is also the reason why most tech channels are not useful, and seems people don't like to read. The likes of Jarrod Tech and Mrwhosetheboss are the worst. They sustain and make grow a sensual and titillating consumerist tech culture and glorify materialism and lust for gadgetry. These devices are just limited tools, best used for learning, probably in-depth reading and other productive and life nurturing things. Not being into social media to buy Tech to further consume social media on it to further buy tech!
@@rajyavardhansingh4491no. Jarrod Tech is too much of a spec hungry detail oriented tech nerd and his opinions are not reliable or useful and lacks in basics for day to day practical usage of the machine. For example, better to buy a laptop from a reliable brand with good after sales service and security practices and track record and install good paid or FOSS programs for your use case and the Laptop should not have long term issues, and you see, Jarrod Tech would focus on which laptop gives 10 frame rates more which is not needed. This is also the reason why most tech channels are not useful, and seems people don't like to read. The likes of Jarrod Tech and Mrwhosetheboss are the worst. They sustain and make grow a sensual and titillating consumerist tech culture and glorify materialism and lust for gadgetry. These devices are just limited tools, best used for learning, probably in-depth reading and other productive and life nurturing things. Not being into social media to buy Tech to further consume social media on it to further buy tech!
Great video! Is the full review for the transcend 14 on the works? I watched the live and can’t wait for that one !!
Should be tomorrow. Latest Friday
I would buy the 32gb variant, but my g14 is still going strong from 2021!
Given that im planning to tune power and fan speed with Ghelper anyway so i think this is a pretty good choice all things considered
The 4090 is £4000 in the UK, which is $5000. The G16 is one of the most expensive laptops in the UK.
@@andyH_England Im buying from the US so pricing is less crazy. Its pretty much in line with the M16 when it was released and Imma wait til at least Black Friday anyway when sales are going on
Thanks for this. I have cancelled my order for the G16 and will wait for the Yoga Pro 9i instead.
“Zephyrus” is the Greek god of wind….maybe this explains the excessive fan noise?
If there was ever a 7945HX / 4080 configuration I’d be sold instantly
which has higher fan noise, g14 or g16?? please answer
How's the hinge and screen wobble?
There is a MUCH bigger issue with this generations G series -- soldered RAM. If you're gaming the recommendation is fairly unanimous that 16 gb is quickly becoming too little for gaming in 2024, giving this laptop fewer years of adequate specs for gaming. The worst of this is that the models with low to mid tier GPUs only come with 16 gb of RAM (for the G16s) pigeon-holing consumers into buying the 4080 or 4090 versions to get 32 gigs of RAM. It's extremely anti-consumer to have taken this direction as previous gens had upgradeable RAM. Shame Asus, shammmme!
The fans loud, it still gets super hot and my keyboard died 2 months after my 1 year warranty
Laptop is not 1 year old
any updates on the omen transcend 14 full review?
Tomorrow or Friday
Will the fan be bad on the 4090 version?
Just bought my G14 a few months ago, I would have loved it to have this design. *sigh
Watch the review before regretting it
damn, the old G14 is a great laptop and great value though, just not as pretty.
your G14 is faster than new G14
The new g14 is a downgrade
@@Shadowwe1 in performance, but unlike a desktop, in a laptop there are more important things than performance.
Nice review. Awaiting review of Legion 7i 2024
Good video. It must be the Ultra 9, as I have a G16 with a 4060 and Ultra 7, and on Silent mode it's entirely silent with no fan noise at all.
Put it on AC, on performance mode or Turbo, and enjoy the high pitch whistle my friend.
I was thinking of getting the G14 model from this brand/series but it’s quite expensive, would you recommend it? i’m not gonna use it for something specifically but i would like to buy a laptop and not have to worry about buying another for the next 5 years at least, would that make the price worth it? any thoughts on the laptop itself?
Thanks Josh for the video examples of the fan noise. Holy crap that's awful. Keybard and underside temps are also so useful as someone who works on commute and has my laptop on my lap. Those 4070 temps are miserable.
Pricing is comparable to the m16 though
ASUS must stop meteor lake power to 50 to 55 watt.
Can the fan noise be fixed with updates? Or will it stay like that? I mean the fans don't bother me normally but they seem really loud and maybe I wanna learn in a Library, I think then it's a problem. The fans on the g14 are better?
the G14 is loud too, but not near as much as this in silent mode, just normally for a gaming laptop.
theoretically it's fixable via an update to their software, but until that update comes I'd not risk buying one.
@@houssamalucad753 but then I buy it now, live with the fan noise some months and then it gets better and I will be happier. I would go with the yoga if the mouse pad wouldn't be so much left and with oled. But it's not so i have to go with asus
What about the new Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Ultra? Wouldn't that one be a solid quiet 16" alternative?
Is the M3 MacBook Air 15 a good laptop for a junior software developer? Obviously would upgrade RAM and SSD.
Perhaps even the M2 is a good buy for a decent discount.
Yes it is
@@JustJoshTechYou reply so quick ❤
By the time you upgrade the RAM and SSD, you’re not far off the M3 Pro 14 that has more ports and a better display. You could also get a refurbished M2 Pro 14 or even the 16.
What do you think of the 2023 version of the g16?
There is more, the power plug is an exact right angle exposing to being easily snapped off or causing a short when bumped.
The zephyrus lineup is great but feels like it stuck beetwen 2 ends. I have a zenbook 14 currently which is honestly just awsome in all aspects. I am looking to upgrade tho because of gaming preferences, i would rather get the strix 16 for the same price as the zephyrus 16.
Hmm still getting the 4080 this Friday thanks for the Windows reinstall tip. I currently have a 3080 8gb zephyrs and really love them so let’s see if this can win me over. Oh and to add my current model is silent when in windows or silent mode so let’s see. If it is true that this is loud then I am sending it back
Is it due to Armory Crate? Many suggest to use Ghelper
It is due to physical airflow design
the issue is the price
I bought the Ultra 9 + 4060 + 32GB RAM.
It has so many great things to be said about it but the issues mentioned in the video are just too much to justify for this kind of price point.
😡 The whistle noise is driving me insane. Even wearing headphones doesn't block it off as it is high-pitched.
😡 It is Hot, like very hot, in both Heavy (gaming - CPU up to 94C) and Light (browsing - CPU around 70C) use scenarios.
😡 It is Never completely silent, fan noise while simply using a browser or Word is annoying as hell, especially when you are working for several hours in a row.
👉 All and all, don't buy this laptop with the Tri-Fan configuration, it is not efficient, and loud. Maybe the 4080 is the only good option, as you should expect the 4090 to be even hotter, and therefore underperform.
how did you get such good battery life? I tried the G14 and G16. The G14 Ryzen lasted 8-9 hours while the G16 dies in under 4! The fans ramp up really fast and it always stays hot. Did you disable cores or undervolt the CPU? My general impression is that Intel should just stop making laptop CPUs because they don't know how to! Intel by far has the worst power efficiency - so bad that it almost makes them look incompetent! Even back in the day when I used macbooks I used intel on them... and they were terrible!
We did not do that
How long will it take for all the testing of Galaxy Book 4 series
This guy always makes great reviews. From different perspectives to different use cases, as he himself relates to many real world use cases. Thank you for being a youber.👍
I bought it. Used it for four days then returned it. Poor ergonomics, incredibly noisy fan, erratic performance, loaded with system killing bloatware like armor crate. In short, technical rubbish.
Like this channel’s content, usually very informative reviews . One.thing I don’t get odd abous why the constant references to the apple macbook? If you are in the market for a windows gaming pc I don’t think that comparison is helpful. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. No pun intended. If I want and am looking for an orange, I don’t want to hear about how good an apple is.
Let me answer this very succicntly as I do get asked this from time to time. This channel is not a laptop review channel. It's about finding the best laptop for different users. Many of my viewers are working professionals. They develop software, they work in offices, they create, or they are students. Many of the applications they users use, work on both platforms. So people can switch between Mac and Windows. And if they want "the best" if they can, they should switch. That being said, I do recognize that many people have specific reasons to use a PC, whether OS preference or they do something like gaming, which is much better on PC. Therefore in this video I gave 2 alternative recommendations. A Mac and a PC. However I focussed far more on the comparison with the PC alternative, the Yoga Pro 9i.
Macs are what all Windows machines should aspire to. Their efficiency, performance per watt, thermals, and fan noise, to name a few. It is always good to see how a Windows laptop compares with the undisputed King of laptops. But I get your point; if you are buying the G16 for gaming, though not everyone will be, then although inferior to the Mac, it has better gaming support, so it would be a default choice.
This is an excellent reviewer. I'm always grateful. I subscribed and liked it. I'll look for it often.
Zephayrus? I love that pronunciation my g
this was exactly what I`ve been searching for, thanks man !
Again excellent Sir, can you please tell us that it has custom fan tuning option or not? If it has custom fan so we can reduce fan speed according to our need.
I specifically showed that in the video. Please watch it
@@JustJoshTech yes got it. Thanks