W/o the chemicals, Koba, as a bonobo, was naturally smarter than Ceaser; that's why Koba thought he could take the alpha status from Cease, being full of the rage from that human abusing him....
This is a no brainer. It is kind of like asking who would win between a 250 lbs fighter raised as a 'Spartan Warrior' versus a 145 lbs pacifist raised in a 'Peace Loving Hippie Commune'. Still, I watched the vid as entertainment.
Chimpanzee: I'm gonna kick your ass man! Bonobo: Oh yeah! Chuck, bring my Vaseline. Chimp: Wait, this isn't that kinda fight man 😧😨😰 Bonobo: OH YEAH IT IS, BRING YOUR ASS OVER HERE! 😈 Chimp: 🏃🏾🏃🏾
@The Underdog Music Although I answered your "Why hippie" question under my thread, you did not mention philosophers there. I will point out that unlike Bonobo clans, the occupation of a philosopher is not tied to a specific culture, or sub-culture, or non-violence for that matter. There are many famous philosophers that were never considered peaceful. Two good examples: Sun Tzu wrote "The Art of War". Niccolò Machiavelli wrote "The Prince".
@The Underdog Music ye ima join the navy like my father before me. Don’t take a joke so seriously tho hahaha damn. Doesn’t change the fact that War=innovation which sucks but is true.
Bonobos aren't tournament species, there is no amatonormativity as part of seduction. They tend to have more of a spantenious reactive socially functional sociosexuality.
You nailed it. Another important factor is that the chimp is much better at using tools. They actually make spears out of tree branches. They commonly fight each other with rocks and sticks. Sometimes, they use crude wooden spears and large animal bones and have even been observed to throw dirt into their opponents' eyes. Even a leopard will think twice before picking a fight with a chimpanzee troop.
I always find it funny how the biggest apes, orangutans and gorillas are always portrayed to be aggressive, moreso gorillas, but it's actually only really chimps and probably humans who are really that aggressive, the other apes are actually quite peaceful apart from scuffles over land and mates obviously
It has been said that bonobos are more prone to reactive aggression which gets resolved with their sociosexuality, while chimps and humans are more prone to proactive aggression which gets resolved with fight or flight response. In terms of adultism humans and chimps also seem similar. link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10329-010-0229-z Since humans are considered to be generalist species then it probably depends on a specific environment (pan troglodytes like proactive political games over status and offspring compared to pan paniscus society based on reactive socially functional same sex bonding and playful group bonding for reconciliation regardless of age). Or human society after the agricultural/pastoral revolution based on competitive possessiveness over private property (marriage, amatonormativity), inheritance, virginity and maximisation of birth rates according to antinatalism based on consent. Not sure about Melanesians, Trobrianders, !Kung, Bafia people, Mosuo and all the extinct undocumented egalitarian hunter-gatherer societies with partible paternity and alloparenting.
??? Both gorilla and orangutans fight over females(sometimes to the death). As far as I know, bonobos are truly the only great ape that has LOW infrequent aggression and high peaceful resolution.
According to 10 year old Yale University lecture gorilla's fight over harems of females, chimpanzees fight over territories containing dispersed females and orangutan females are just more attracted to males with cheek pads which can take up to 20-30 years to develop as far as I remember. Nothing much was told about bonobos except for g-g rubbing and the name for it given by locals.
@@uvwuvw-ol3fg You are FAR too intelligent and well-educated for this comments section. You should make a TH-cam video of your own. I would love to see what you might have to say. But you would need to REALLY take it slow, and thoroughly explain all the concepts and conclusions for layman consumption. Edit: Actually, I think you have SO MUCH to say that you would need to make a SERIES of videos. Maybe ten minutes or so apiece, so as to not scare away folk who don't want to watch really long videos. Like me, for instance. 😄
Who says we are aggressive? We are quite social. Yes we have wars - but seriously. Who really wants to kill other people and risk dying? I think we are more like bonobos. Although i'm sure bonobos can start wars too if given the right conditioning. Maybe if sex wasnt so taboo in human culture - with monogamous relationships being promoted - maybe we could be as peaceful as bonobos - along with their social structure.
@@RikoJAmado No... the chimp never gets to have a bonobo "for lunch". He may try, but he will have to eat an entire orgy of bonobos at once..... which is JUST impossible for a chimp to even attempt. He will just get "blown" multiple times pondering such a meal. The chimp is out of his league...;) Bonobos rule.
They used to be the same species until they were split by the Congo river and the primates on the top became chimpanzees and the bottom became bonobos because of the differences of the top part of the river to the bottom
Realize that 90% of the video is frankly just comparing interesting facts about the species and only then it comes up the obligatory question who would win a fight. He's doing this to educate, the hypothetical fighting scenario is just bcz most people need to see some kind of violent related header to click in the first place ;)
All the jokes in the "comment" section aside, the chimp wins for two reasons. 1. Sheer size alone where it has an edge. A "hairless" chimp is like a muscle chart with AMAZING similarities with ours, but a physique more similar to a non-competitive bodybuilder, for instance, and 2. their sheer aggressive NATURE! They'd just as soon snatch your balls off as look at you! And with their strength, they seem to have no problem at all doing it INSTANTLY, according to those humans that have survived an encounter with one. Their behavior is aggressive so matter what, even when not prevoked. It's amazing how two animals that favor each other so much can have such different behavior.
Dude, I partly watch your videos because I love your accent and the pacing of your words! It's a pleasure to listen. Thanks for your videos and your voice!
Intelligence, aggression and strength are a deadly combo, and chimps are known to build spears (it's just a stick that's been sharpened with their teeth). My bet is on the chimp.
The chimpanzee would win most of the time, but there is enough variation in both species that it's not 100% guaranteed. It's not clear which would win if a more docile omega male chimp fought a particularly large bonobo.
It's like comparing a blood thirsty spartan to a gentle Athen. Chimpanzees are very strong and intelligent creatures. If a Chimpanzee and Bonobo were fighting, I'd bet my money on the Chimp. Always.
Who would win in a fight? A lanky Hippie, chilling his life, smoking weed and porking anything that lies still long enough OR a bulky member of a violent biker gang who is used to pub brawls, bare knuckle boxing and probably worse? Gee, tough one.
This is like asking who would win between a pot smoking hippie and a Marine. Obviously the chimp would win almost every time, because it is stronger and much more aggressive than the bonobo.
Try looking up hairless chimps. They look similar to humans, but more "superhuman" by comparison. Bonobos are more similar to humans in social structure than Chimps are. Yet we still have some similarities to Chimps. Humans are bonobos are more empathetic. Chimps are more lacking in that regard.
I agree. I've been studying chimps for awhile now. They are incredibly intelligent but also incredibly violent and terrifying. I love Bonobos for their intelligence and calmer nature, but probably wouldn't want to get too close to one for fear of being molested. lol All primates are amazing, intelligent, awesome animals that humans have treated horribly. Not only were chimps used in biomedical research, but did you know they were also used as "crash test dummies"? Yes, that's right. Human beings would strap in living, breathing, chimpanzees and then crash their vehicle at high rates of speed. If you don't think that's cruel then I sure as hell don't ever want to meet you.
Amazing I'm going with the chimpanzee.. The chimpanzee is a great fighter and they're very aggressive. Also they are very strong! A chimpanzee pulled 1260 pounds in a fit of rage. Nearly 10 times her body weight.
this is because they have long arms, long arms allow for greater pulling force + the fact that schimpanzees have the strongest muscle fibers Among apes
pretty much matriarchy vs. patriarchy. its interesting to note that in bonobo society, even though they can eat meat, they typically go for cheap and plentiful plants and fruits while chimps will hunt and put a preference on meat as a prize much like we would.
You would definitely make the chimp the heavy favourite. But for all we know the Bonobo has some sort of genius tactic that makes all the difference. There are many examples of seeming mismatches in the wild that end up going the other way. The secretary bird jacks up black mambas. The only way to settle it is to find evidence of a clash and video record it.
So to be specific here bonobos and chimps are only different genetically but less then half a percent, so realistically its like two humans fighting, no real diference build or muscle wise, bonobos may not "kill" but yes they can be aggressive (just not as much as all other appes including us) they are not strangers to a fight, they just try not to. Chimps on the other hand behave much to similarly to us humans, an average troop of 40 to 50 members, will sometimes wage wars on neighboring troops to claim that territory, they will cannibalize in a few instances of these wars, they hunt small primates for meat, and will often craft a spear by sharpening sticks with theyre teeth, they will use rocks to break bone, and if a troop becomes too large, it will risk triggering the rarely heard of chimp civil wars, which probably happen more frequently then we have been able to record. In this fight, we need to consider some things to make this really a fair (hypothetical) fight Both the chimp and bonobo have good arboreal dexterity and are pretty solid on the ground. Bonobos can craft tools like the chimp but would probably not make them preemptively The real question is if the bonobo could escape the initial engagement Because of the bonobos naturally more pacifist approach to newcomers, the chimps would immediately signal his displeasure with drumming and howls, this is the small window the bonobo could make his escape and ready himself for when the chimps catches up. However that would seperate this fight into two parts, so for a one and done deal the Chimps always win, if the bonobo could get ready for a fight, then its more 50/50 who would win, Chimps usually have more experience fighting so its still probably the chimp who will win only because they maim the genitalia, so yeah picture a guy run up and first thing he does is grab your nuts as hard as he can, so yeah although i want the bonobo to win, the chimp will win about 67/100 with the bonobo only being able to really win by striking first which will usually be unlilely
The bonobos, unfortunately, would be the losers in this fight. if it was a case of seduction, the bonobos would win every time, but the chimpanzees are aggressive out of the gate. This is definitely not ever going to be a close match.
vivec the not false god their society is really only comparable to modern comfortable western societies since humans there have basically no predators and don’t struggle for resources like the bonobos and act more sexually promiscuous like them too. Chimpanzees use tools in the wild, and use group hunting tactics and have more pronounced sexual dimorphism like humans and live in non-promiscuous patriarchal societies because they have more natural predators and live in a harsher environment. They operate pretty similarly to primitive human societies that need to survive in the wilderness. I think humans are naturally closer to chimps then bonobos.
@@jarlbalgruuf7701 well bonobo society is exactly like human society however, bonobos are more organized and their sexual behavior is like humans, they trade sex for food etc.
It depends on the parameters set for the "fight". If you throw the average male chimp vs. the average male bonobo into a sealed pit bare of anything else...the chimp obviously has the physical advantage, and also it's much more aggressive naturally. That said, I believe the bonobo to have a slight edge in intelligence, and it's more gentle/patient nature allows for more and higher level training then the chimp. Based on the videos I've seen, an exceptional bonobo could easily be trained to use a firearm proficiently....and reload it when needed. The other thing I wanted to point out, is that there are a wide range of physical and mental attributes among primates. At some point in our evolution, greater intelligence meant being more capable of dominance over our surroundings then our weak physical bodies.
The African server is among the toughest in the meta. They should have invested more stat points into the intelligence buff like the Human players did.
@@smoshyxx3058 I'm glad I chose a human Player with the Chef skill. I made my player Autistic which allows for higher IQ with a nerf to social skills. I invested most of my stat points into intelligence. I was going to choose the Batman player build but The Devs nerfed it.
Awesome video! Yeah, as much as I like bonobos, chimpanzees would be just too powerful and savage for them in a fight. I had anticipated the result from the start.
Actually, that's not true. Get your facts straight. There is more genetic variation within one tribe of Chimpanzee than there is in all of humanity combined. Bonobos and Chimps diverged a million years ago. Homo Sapiens have only existed for 200,000 years, and 75% of that time we exclusively lived in Africa.
@@lamarmcneil5655 Incorrect. The genetic distance between an Englishman and a member of the Bantu tribe is nearly twice that between the Common Chimp and the Bonobo. Speciation predates genetic testing, and is not based on any set metric, but is instead absolutely arbitrary.
Gordon Shumway Where’s your evidence of that? Chimps and Bonobos diverged literally a million years ago, whereas Eurasians diverged from an African lineage about 50,000 years ago, so how does that even make logical sense?
Who told you that? There's more genetic variation between two chimps in living in the SAME region than there is between two humans on two DIFFERENT continents. An Englishman and a Bantu have more in common genetically than two chimps living in Central Africa.
I would like to say THEY WOULD WORK IT OUT IN A PEACEFUL WAY. But the aggressive nature of chimpanzee would make that not possible, they are quick to anger.
It could go both polar ways, chimps can be just as loving as they can be deadly. Most likely they would have a territorial scuffle with the bonobos due to their aggressive nature, but a truly lethal encounter isn't THAT likely.
@@CrazyIshan69 A lethal encounter could happen, but it depends on population. The eastern chimp subspecies is known to often kill outsiders. Western chimps are more tolerating of outsiders, though. Even within these it can vary from group to group.
Chimps are right-wing: they're patriarchal, territorial, competitive, and sexually conservative (males compete for access to limited female sexuality) Bonobos are left wing: they're matriarchal, pacifistic, relatively egalitarian and (very) sexually liberal
"She breeds with all the males in the new group" she for the trees
She belongs to the trees
Lmfao
I see whoredom don't just happen for human females lol
lmfao
@@StevenGougis to be fair, apparently chimps bald like us too
Balding out, balling out
Bonobo are obviously lovers, not fighters
Obviously. th-cam.com/video/-Sr1KI2OXuk/w-d-xo.html
@@jaredschmidt8013 Still not as bad as chimps
Have you seen koba
@@kaihixon3225 dawn of the planet of the apes was a fictional movie not a documentary movie
@@kaihixon3225 Koba was abused
I’ve already seen Koba vs Ceaser
@@nisaeltorres8093 Koba was a bonobo.
Enmos yeah you’re right
@@Enmos i thought opposite. ceaser looks more bonoboish and koba more chimpish.
@@anjelomichelangelo7726 how tho
W/o the chemicals, Koba, as a bonobo, was naturally smarter than Ceaser; that's why Koba thought he could take the alpha status from Cease, being full of the rage from that human abusing him....
Chimp: punches bonobo
Bonobo: "Ah, harder daddy!"
😂😂😂
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Lol😂🤣😂
Please no.
😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
This is a no brainer. It is kind of like asking who would win between a 250 lbs fighter raised as a 'Spartan Warrior' versus a 145 lbs pacifist raised in a 'Peace Loving Hippie Commune'.
Still, I watched the vid as entertainment.
The narrator is Vincent Price's son!
Hahahaha the hippie deserves what is coming
@@JRBDWD based LOL
@@JRBDWD fucking all day and avoiding conflict doesn't lend well to problem solving and tool making. Chimps are smarter at that than bonobos
I'm that skinny "hippie" but I go for kill shots.
Chimpanzee 1: Bro, there's a macaque !
Chimpanzee 2: Let's catch him!
Bonobos 1: Ballsack Rubbing?
Bonobos 2: Okay 👌
Bonobo 3: Lets evolve
Bonobo 300: I am a Hombonobo now, thanks to Bonobo 3.
Bonobo 40000: Let us bring the guns
Macaques and chimps live on different continents
@@Bradchoksondik missed the joke
HomoBonobo. Sounds like a character from an early Star wars Movie.
Chimpanzee wins hands down. They are simply bigger and more aggressive. It's like putting a leopard against a jaguar.
Jag beats a leopard
You mean Leopard vs. Cheetah
It's not a proper comparison, don't underestimate a leopard
Jaguars are bigger than leopards.
Luka Popovic You have never seen a Jaguar. They are about twice the size of a panther and have an incredible bite. There is no comparison.
"Bonobo's only fight for sex."
Just like me.
😂
Stop simping.
🤮🤮🤮
@@ShihoArete shut uo
Lol this funny
Chimpanzee: I'm gonna kick your ass man!
Bonobo: Oh yeah! Chuck, bring my Vaseline.
Chimp: Wait, this isn't that kinda fight man 😧😨😰
Bonobo: OH YEAH IT IS, BRING YOUR ASS OVER HERE! 😈
Chimp: 🏃🏾🏃🏾
This beyond me... guard guard
Lol
Intimidation +10
haha
Are you pulling a race thing with the black guy runner?
Chimpanzee be like "OORAH" Marine , Bonobo be flower child hippie , " Hey man , make love not war" .
@The Underdog Music Although I answered your "Why hippie" question under my thread, you did not mention philosophers there.
I will point out that unlike Bonobo clans, the occupation of a philosopher is not tied to a specific culture, or sub-culture, or non-violence for that matter. There are many famous philosophers that were never considered peaceful. Two good examples: Sun Tzu wrote "The Art of War". Niccolò Machiavelli wrote "The Prince".
@The Underdog Music who cares it was joke. Plus like it or not War=technological innovation
@The Underdog Music ye ima join the navy like my father before me. Don’t take a joke so seriously tho hahaha damn. Doesn’t change the fact that War=innovation which sucks but is true.
Wait wait wait, the bonobo will seduce the chimp? Mans tryna fight in a whole different way
Bonobos aren't tournament species, there is no amatonormativity as part of seduction. They tend to have more of a spantenious reactive socially functional sociosexuality.
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@@lilj5759 okay so basically bonobos are far more peaceful than chimps.
@@lilj5759 Someone said that the chimpanzee is a Marine and the bonobo is a hippie, for easy understanding.
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Chimpanzee: we must use stealth tactics and brute force to get the upper hand on our opponents!
Bonobo: I *need* the *seggs*
LMFAO 😆
Stealth tactics? That's a funny way to spell going absolutely bananas.
"She breeds with all the males in the group"
Human: "She belongs to the streets"
*_Chimpanzee: "She belongs to the trees"_*
someone already said thT
And you don’t
Stolen comment, stop trying to be funny
Hey, divorce is so common and marriage so cheapened, that she breeds with all the males anyways...
The trees have consumed her 😤💯
It’s definitely the chimp; although, I’d prefers to live like the Bonobo😅
I’d meet a thousand Bonobos before I meet even a single chimpanzee😅
NANI???? What?
Yo, nice first name bro
@@ericolens3 I don’t think bonobos fling poop like chimps but I could be wrong.
@@helphelp8618 A female bonobo will probably throw poop at you it even physically hit you. But a male one probably wouldn’t.
You nailed it. Another important factor is that the chimp is much better at using tools. They actually make spears out of tree branches. They commonly fight each other with rocks and sticks. Sometimes, they use crude wooden spears and large animal bones and have even been observed to throw dirt into their opponents' eyes. Even a leopard will think twice before picking a fight with a chimpanzee troop.
Yep low EQ animals are naturally stronger (mind and body)
Y’know I was about to tell you how you misspelled leopard, but I like leppard better leopard.
but bonobos are easy cathces for that same leopard and won't hesitate the attack even if they are grouped together
Tools and weapons. Sounds like humans. Not so strange when you think about it.
Thats cap
This is a horrific scenario for the Bonobo. Chimps have the track record and are far more savage than a Bonobo would ever dream of being.
Bonobos and Chimpanzees both like smashing each other; one just takes it literally. 😂
“bruh” girls vs “hiii” girls
Koba: "Caesar weak"
Caesar: "Koba weaker"
That question has plagued me all my life. Just like, who would win a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Gandhi?
I mean...
Didn't gandhi once a soldier
@@gamingthisera6339 Nope, lawyer
Gandhi just lie down and say, "Peace, bro."
I mean, if it's Civilization Gandhi...
I always find it funny how the biggest apes, orangutans and gorillas are always portrayed to be aggressive, moreso gorillas, but it's actually only really chimps and probably humans who are really that aggressive, the other apes are actually quite peaceful apart from scuffles over land and mates obviously
It has been said that bonobos are more prone to reactive aggression which gets resolved with their sociosexuality, while chimps and humans are more prone to proactive aggression which gets resolved with fight or flight response. In terms of adultism humans and chimps also seem similar.
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10329-010-0229-z
Since humans are considered to be generalist species then it probably depends on a specific environment (pan troglodytes like proactive political games over status and offspring compared to pan paniscus society based on reactive socially functional same sex bonding and playful group bonding for reconciliation regardless of age). Or human society after the agricultural/pastoral revolution based on competitive possessiveness over private property (marriage, amatonormativity), inheritance, virginity and maximisation of birth rates according to antinatalism based on consent. Not sure about Melanesians, Trobrianders, !Kung, Bafia people, Mosuo and all the extinct undocumented egalitarian hunter-gatherer societies with partible paternity and alloparenting.
??? Both gorilla and orangutans fight over females(sometimes to the death). As far as I know, bonobos are truly the only great ape that has LOW infrequent aggression and high peaceful resolution.
According to 10 year old Yale University lecture gorilla's fight over harems of females, chimpanzees fight over territories containing dispersed females and orangutan females are just more attracted to males with cheek pads which can take up to 20-30 years to develop as far as I remember. Nothing much was told about bonobos except for g-g rubbing and the name for it given by locals.
@@uvwuvw-ol3fg You are FAR too intelligent and well-educated for this comments section. You should make a TH-cam video of your own. I would love to see what you might have to say. But you would need to REALLY take it slow, and thoroughly explain all the concepts and conclusions for layman consumption. Edit: Actually, I think you have SO MUCH to say that you would need to make a SERIES of videos. Maybe ten minutes or so apiece, so as to not scare away folk who don't want to watch really long videos. Like me, for instance. 😄
Who says we are aggressive? We are quite social. Yes we have wars - but seriously. Who really wants to kill other people and risk dying?
I think we are more like bonobos. Although i'm sure bonobos can start wars too if given the right conditioning.
Maybe if sex wasnt so taboo in human culture - with monogamous relationships being promoted - maybe we could be as peaceful as bonobos - along with their social structure.
"Bonobos only care about fun and sex", the Quagmire way of life lol
Giggidy
I will humor this by watching, due to loving the vids regardless. But c'mon, Chimp will have Bonobo for lunch.
But the Bonobo might have the Chimp over after the lunch.
Chimp will have bonobo for lunch. quite literally.
@@RikoJAmado No... the chimp never gets to have a bonobo "for lunch". He may try, but he will have to eat an entire orgy of bonobos at once..... which is JUST impossible for a chimp to even attempt. He will just get "blown" multiple times pondering such a meal. The chimp is out of his league...;) Bonobos rule.
They used to be the same species until they were split by the Congo river and the primates on the top became chimpanzees and the bottom became bonobos because of the differences of the top part of the river to the bottom
yeah you know what they say about being a top or bottom
I was today years old when I found out about bonobos 😭🥺 wth!
bonobos are my favorite great ape because of how similar they are to us
@@Orchid.Mantispede nope chimps are closer because they are insane linatics who murder each other
Me too 😂😢
@@Orchid.Mantispede culturally, we are more similar to chimps than bonobos.
Bonobo: I'm a lover not a fighter..HEEHEE
Then proceeds to own all his music.... never underestimate a bonobo.
Humans from past: chipanzees
Humans now: bonobos
Humans are still pretty violent
True
Not in Chicago and other ghettos...
@@sandrabonner8208 Chicago isn't even in the top 10.and humans fight everywhere.
@@sandrabonner8208Russia is very ghetto
Why must he always make them fight? I want them to all be friends and have a picnic.
Shut up Bonobian.
@@00fgytduydrtu F U... literally. The bonobo way.
Realize that 90% of the video is frankly just comparing interesting facts about the species and only then it comes up the obligatory question who would win a fight. He's doing this to educate, the hypothetical fighting scenario is just bcz most people need to see some kind of violent related header to click in the first place ;)
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Very idealistic but nature is pretty much about fucking each other up
All the jokes in the "comment" section aside, the chimp wins for two reasons. 1. Sheer size alone where it has an edge. A "hairless" chimp is like a muscle chart with AMAZING similarities with ours, but a physique more similar to a non-competitive bodybuilder, for instance, and 2. their sheer aggressive NATURE! They'd just as soon snatch your balls off as look at you! And with their strength, they seem to have no problem at all doing it INSTANTLY, according to those humans that have survived an encounter with one. Their behavior is aggressive so matter what, even when not prevoked.
It's amazing how two animals that favor each other so much can have such different behavior.
Sorry about misspelling provoked at the end of the first paragraph. It's embarrassing !
Yeah man bonobos are too docile for chimps. Chimps vs bonobos are like putting modern humans against neanderthals using same weapons.
"walking on the sole of each foot and the knuckles of their hands earned them the name knuckle walkers" very creative
🤣 I literally thought that exact thing when he said it
Dude, I partly watch your videos because I love your accent and the pacing of your words! It's a pleasure to listen. Thanks for your videos and your voice!
Very informative. If you didnt know you would think they are the same.
Intelligence, aggression and strength are a deadly combo, and chimps are known to build spears (it's just a stick that's been sharpened with their teeth). My bet is on the chimp.
The chimpanzee would win most of the time, but there is enough variation in both species that it's not 100% guaranteed. It's not clear which would win if a more docile omega male chimp fought a particularly large bonobo.
It's like comparing a blood thirsty spartan to a gentle Athen. Chimpanzees are very strong and intelligent creatures. If a Chimpanzee and Bonobo were fighting, I'd bet my money on the Chimp. Always.
Athenians aren't gentle, they are both warlike people. They just have a different form of government. Athenians went to war as much as Spartans did.
Who would win in a fight? A lanky Hippie, chilling his life, smoking weed and porking anything that lies still long enough OR a bulky member of a violent biker gang who is used to pub brawls, bare knuckle boxing and probably worse?
Gee, tough one.
This is like asking who would win between a pot smoking hippie and a Marine. Obviously the chimp would win almost every time, because it is stronger and much more aggressive than the bonobo.
Bonobos are like “we’re lovers not fighters”. “now where’s your ladies at?”
it's like Bonobos have empathy and sympathy, helping out the new females in the group
Jesus christ look at bonobos arm muscles
They look identical to humans
Try looking up hairless chimps.
They look similar to humans, but more "superhuman" by comparison.
Bonobos are more similar to humans in social structure than Chimps are. Yet we still have some similarities to Chimps.
Humans are bonobos are more empathetic. Chimps are more lacking in that regard.
I agree. I've been studying chimps for awhile now. They are incredibly intelligent but also incredibly violent and terrifying. I love Bonobos for their intelligence and calmer nature, but probably wouldn't want to get too close to one for fear of being molested. lol All primates are amazing, intelligent, awesome animals that humans have treated horribly. Not only were chimps used in biomedical research, but did you know they were also used as "crash test dummies"? Yes, that's right. Human beings would strap in living, breathing, chimpanzees and then crash their vehicle at high rates of speed. If you don't think that's cruel then I sure as hell don't ever want to meet you.
Fucc Humanity. I’d ❤️ to understand a bonobo/any primate cousin.
Already knew chimpanzee was going to win but watched the video anyways to see what facts I could learn from both of them
PLot twist: There's no fight.
Bonobos are more chill and peace loving. I like them.
Beta male!
@@jaysonmokhwanatsi7365 yep 😂
I think they are a more peaceful group because the females are in charge,
Amazing
I'm going with the chimpanzee..
The chimpanzee is a great fighter and they're very aggressive. Also they are very strong! A chimpanzee pulled 1260 pounds in a fit of rage. Nearly 10 times her body weight.
this is because they have long arms, long arms allow for greater pulling force + the fact that schimpanzees have the strongest muscle fibers Among apes
Dont believe it
It's peace VS war basically
it's like putting Mike Tyson vs Michael Jackson in a Las Vegas ring.
Michael Jackson would seduce Mike?
You probably haven't seen Moonwalker? Yeah it's not even close MJ takes it. Heee Heeeeeee!!!!!!
"More robust" says it all
Ocelot vs clouded leopard
Serval vs caracal
Bobcat vs Eurasian lynx
Golden jackal vs Ethiopian wolf
Sloth bear vs Jaguar
Clouded leopard
Idk should be a good one
Probably the lynx still a good one tho
The wolf hands down
Giving it up to the jaguar
Sloth bear takes on tiger's sometimes so they can hold against Jaguar
Aren't golden jackal proved to be a wolf
@@MotivateMoments2023 yeah they're a wolf subspecies
@@titanhound6671 Yes, thanks👍👍👍
This is kind of like asking who would win between an ancient gothic man and a modern day feminised swedish man.
Viking vs Soyjack
"They've even been seen eating bats and flying squirrels even-" "THE CHARMIN BEAR, WANTS TO TELL YOU" perfect commercial timing
pretty much matriarchy vs. patriarchy. its interesting to note that in bonobo society, even though they can eat meat, they typically go for cheap and plentiful plants and fruits while chimps will hunt and put a preference on meat as a prize much like we would.
Wow! Well done! Well researched and delightfully presented.
Chimp: U wanna go mate!
Bonobo: Hit me harder Daddy!
Chimp: ... Yo wtf...
Bonobo: What?
Chimp: ...
Bonobo:...
Chimp: ...
This is literally like a honey badger vs a regular badger😂
If you are looking for information about which one is stronger in fight: video starts at 9:18
It just sounds better when it is pronounced bO-nO-bO.
Phenomenal narrator, watched a video on history marche and than saw this video.. so pleasing to ears
You would definitely make the chimp the heavy favourite. But for all we know the Bonobo has some sort of genius tactic that makes all the difference. There are many examples of seeming mismatches in the wild that end up going the other way. The secretary bird jacks up black mambas. The only way to settle it is to find evidence of a clash and video record it.
Problem is Chimps hunt in packs.
WOW!
Now this was a close fight!
Both are very similar!
Why are we making soldiers fight hippies?
Because unlike them, our enemies can pass the rivers.
Great information! Thank you. Will be watching more of your channel.
So to be specific here bonobos and chimps are only different genetically but less then half a percent, so realistically its like two humans fighting, no real diference build or muscle wise, bonobos may not "kill" but yes they can be aggressive (just not as much as all other appes including us) they are not strangers to a fight, they just try not to. Chimps on the other hand behave much to similarly to us humans, an average troop of 40 to 50 members, will sometimes wage wars on neighboring troops to claim that territory, they will cannibalize in a few instances of these wars, they hunt small primates for meat, and will often craft a spear by sharpening sticks with theyre teeth, they will use rocks to break bone, and if a troop becomes too large, it will risk triggering the rarely heard of chimp civil wars, which probably happen more frequently then we have been able to record. In this fight, we need to consider some things to make this really a fair (hypothetical) fight
Both the chimp and bonobo have good arboreal dexterity and are pretty solid on the ground.
Bonobos can craft tools like the chimp but would probably not make them preemptively
The real question is if the bonobo could escape the initial engagement
Because of the bonobos naturally more pacifist approach to newcomers, the chimps would immediately signal his displeasure with drumming and howls, this is the small window the bonobo could make his escape and ready himself for when the chimps catches up.
However that would seperate this fight into two parts, so for a one and done deal the Chimps always win, if the bonobo could get ready for a fight, then its more 50/50 who would win, Chimps usually have more experience fighting so its still probably the chimp who will win only because they maim the genitalia, so yeah picture a guy run up and first thing he does is grab your nuts as hard as he can, so yeah although i want the bonobo to win, the chimp will win about 67/100 with the bonobo only being able to really win by striking first which will usually be unlilely
8:37 damn even chimps have Karens
I live in Detroit, so I see Bonobos and Chimps fighting all the time.
What is that supposed to mean?
Me too
@@pharoahakhenaten6630 who wins lol
Not that kind lol,we have here in Iowa too😂
7:34 Wow, it's like a window into a past that only our more ape-like ancestors were able to experience.
The bonobos, unfortunately, would be the losers in this fight. if it was a case of seduction, the bonobos would win every time, but the chimpanzees are aggressive out of the gate. This is definitely not ever going to be a close match.
I enjoyed this. Thank you for posting
We must protect the Bonobo because there are fewer of them than the cimpanzees.
Great vid bro
The chad Chimpanzees vs. the looser degenerate Bonobos
You underestimate the bonobo ape.
Plus, the bonobos are a type of chimpanzee.
Bruh chimp behaviour is pretty much exactly the same as humans
It's my favorite History Marche narrator! Kick ass!
Chimpazees are definitely our closest relatives by far.
Not really, Bonobos are closer, and so is their societies.
vivec the not false god their society is really only comparable to modern comfortable western societies since humans there have basically no predators and don’t struggle for resources like the bonobos and act more sexually promiscuous like them too.
Chimpanzees use tools in the wild, and use group hunting tactics and have more pronounced sexual dimorphism like humans and live in non-promiscuous patriarchal societies because they have more natural predators and live in a harsher environment. They operate pretty similarly to primitive human societies that need to survive in the wilderness.
I think humans are naturally closer to chimps then bonobos.
@@jarlbalgruuf7701 well bonobo society is exactly like human society however, bonobos are more organized and their sexual behavior is like humans, they trade sex for food etc.
@@jarlbalgruuf7701 bonobos use tools as well
4:06 I guess he wanted to say west and central not east.
bonobo's are the hippies of the animal kingdom
It depends on the parameters set for the "fight". If you throw the average male chimp vs. the average male bonobo into a sealed pit bare of anything else...the chimp obviously has the physical advantage, and also it's much more aggressive naturally. That said, I believe the bonobo to have a slight edge in intelligence, and it's more gentle/patient nature allows for more and higher level training then the chimp. Based on the videos I've seen, an exceptional bonobo could easily be trained to use a firearm proficiently....and reload it when needed. The other thing I wanted to point out, is that there are a wide range of physical and mental attributes among primates. At some point in our evolution, greater intelligence meant being more capable of dominance over our surroundings then our weak physical bodies.
Well said; very informative.
I completely agree but I think that in animal fights, it is generally considered that guns are out of the picture 😂
@@tamlynjimjones1116 monkey jui jitsu
Chimp vs bonobo is like isla vs buddhist monk one is aggressive and one is calm🙏🤣
video starts at 9:22
The African server is among the toughest in the meta. They should have invested more stat points into the intelligence buff like the Human players did.
Tierzoo Reference, I honestly would chose a Chimpanzee build for my primate player as well.
@@smoshyxx3058 I'm glad I chose a human Player with the Chef skill. I made my player Autistic which allows for higher IQ with a nerf to social skills. I invested most of my stat points into intelligence. I was going to choose the Batman player build but The Devs nerfed it.
@@smoshyxx3058 u sure? The chances of getting your balls ripped off is pretty high
Thanks for this video I am looking for it
Its like a hippie versus a warrior.
The bonobos seem less hairy and even shorter haired
I think this is the same narrator from history march ... i love that channel and i love your narration and i am subscribing to this channel now
Awesome video! Yeah, as much as I like bonobos, chimpanzees would be just too powerful and savage for them in a fight. I had anticipated the result from the start.
Bonobos being peaceful chimps hands down win
Bonobos, the bards of the real world, they are the person that says to the DM "I seduce the dragon" and proceed to roll 3 consecutive nat 20's.
Conclusion: bonobo=friendly chimp
"Bon-oh-bo"....
Your putting the wrong em-phAs-is on the wrong syl-ab-le
Chimp be like: "On second thought , let's not go to Camelot. 'Tis a silly place."
There is less genetic distance between a Bonobo and a Common Chimp than there is between an Englishman and a member of the Bantu tribe.
Actually, that's not true. Get your facts straight. There is more genetic variation within one tribe of Chimpanzee than there is in all of humanity combined. Bonobos and Chimps diverged a million years ago. Homo Sapiens have only existed for 200,000 years, and 75% of that time we exclusively lived in Africa.
@@lamarmcneil5655 Incorrect. The genetic distance between an Englishman and a member of the Bantu tribe is nearly twice that between the Common Chimp and the Bonobo. Speciation predates genetic testing, and is not based on any set metric, but is instead absolutely arbitrary.
Gordon Shumway Where’s your evidence of that? Chimps and Bonobos diverged literally a million years ago, whereas Eurasians diverged from an African lineage about 50,000 years ago, so how does that even make logical sense?
Who told you that? There's more genetic variation between two chimps in living in the SAME region than there is between two humans on two DIFFERENT continents. An Englishman and a Bantu have more in common genetically than two chimps living in Central Africa.
@@bluebird5173 Thank you! It's as if these people get all of their scientific facts from Stormfront and 4chan.
Bonobos seem very nice and calm.
You know I'm something of a Bonobo myself
I'd go with chimp. Bonobo is smart enough to bet against itself and throw the match
Is this you real voice?
Wow. This was done on planet of the apes ceaser and Koba lol
I would like to say THEY WOULD WORK IT OUT IN A PEACEFUL WAY. But the aggressive nature of chimpanzee would make that not possible, they are quick to anger.
It could go both polar ways, chimps can be just as loving as they can be deadly. Most likely they would have a territorial scuffle with the bonobos due to their aggressive nature, but a truly lethal encounter isn't THAT likely.
@@CrazyIshan69 A lethal encounter could happen, but it depends on population.
The eastern chimp subspecies is known to often kill outsiders.
Western chimps are more tolerating of outsiders, though.
Even within these it can vary from group to group.
@@m.wallace2705 Yep.
@@CrazyIshan69 Chimps eat babies from their own group, they always go to war against other chimps. Chimps are very aggressive.
I remember a bonobo giving me the finger at the Columbus zoo when I flipped it off first
The narrator is the same guy who does History Marche videos.
Chimps are right-wing: they're patriarchal, territorial, competitive, and sexually conservative (males compete for access to limited female sexuality)
Bonobos are left wing: they're matriarchal, pacifistic, relatively egalitarian and (very) sexually liberal
& chimps always win