That is 100% Tatiana's voice. It will never get old watching people's reaction to this video. Typically that style of vocals is called growling, screaming and/or harsh vocals. There are other terms people use but those 3 are the most common
Ayup. "Metal screams" is one umbrella term. What Tati does are mostly death metal growls, but not all screams are growls. "Distorted" or "dirty" vocals also work. The traditional singing is called "clean singing" in this context, so dirty is kind of opposite of it.
Jinjer is a spectacular band! All Hail Queen Tati! "Perennial" live at Wacken 2019 and "Judgement and Punishment" one take vocal are great next videos. "Teacher Teacher", "I Speak Astronomy", "Who Is Gonna Be the One" - Live. No end with Jinjer.
Best reaction to Pisces since the Fairy Voice Mother spit out a mouthful of tea! Jinger is from Ukraine and the lead singer is Tatiana. She is self-taught to achieve her sound. The term i've heard to describe the 'demon voice' is harsh vocals. Great reaction!
Oh my GOSH! The Fairy Voice Mother was the very first reaction I saw to this video, Mike, and it was hiLARious! I will always remember that reaction since it was my first TH-cam reaction ever! :D
@@grinmaul jokes on you. Even if it was fake she has great analysis of vocal and growling techniques and the mini-tutorial on growling in her Hypa Hypa reaction is some if the most actionable info I've seen on the subject.
Congrats! Y'all are true reactors now. It's kind of a thing that reactors have to get trolled by this song. There are compilation videos just of people's reactions to this video. Having said that - can you imagine if Tatiana has kids and they misbehave?! "Noooo, Mommy, don't bring out *the voice!* I'll be good!"
Hello girls from little Switzerland 🇨🇭🙃 Welcome to the Jinjer rabbit hole, with a far above average talented band full of musicians who master their instruments, especially because they cleverly integrate some other music genres like no other band in heavy metal so far! Roman on guitar, Eugene on bass, Vladislav "Vlad" drummer, who is not actually a drummer, guitarist was in his previous band, but also mastered bass perfectly, but he also only learned these two instruments to perfection "on the side" and actually a fully trained professional classical music concert pianist in Ukraine at the Classical Music Conservatory 🤯!!! And yes, Tatjana is the front woman and singer of the band and is simply Bad🍑 Girl with probably the most extreme vocal techniques in the heavy metal genre among female singers! There are many other very well-known and good metal singers, but Tati is simply the absolute unicorn 🦄 because she can growl extremely low like no other, and at the same time she can scream as high as Eingel's voice, which is clear and can reach very high tones! And what sets her apart even more from everyone else, she is even more impressive live on stage than in videos! She does the live without any technical audio help from the sound engineer and software, like so many others! You'll hear it at the latest when you hear all of them live at a concert!!! That's many years of practicing, practicing, practicing and training and improving your voice technique! 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As an example, Hello Death as a single from April 2022... The order compiled here is not 100% arranged like the album playlist, because sometimes there are no music videos, or they are not good enough quality for me to list here! I started adding to the list, step by step a few years ago with the available songs, qualities and release dates. I'll probably add to the list next year, i.e. more likely at the end / autumn of 2024 when Jinjer starts in the studio with the planned new album!
Jinjer is the best thing out there! Perennial live at Wacken next. Judgement & Punishment one take vocal after. Vortex, Teacher Teacher, Wallflower…so many amazing songs/videos. Welcome to the Jinjer family ❤
It’s amazing what sounds a person can make using the Growling technique. Not for everyone but it has its place. It’s really cool you are open to listening to tracks like this. 🙂
So that technique is called false chord screaming/growling. The "false vocal chords" sit above the actual vocal chords and extend over the vocal chords when you swallow to help keep food from going down the wrong way. Singers who learn this technique learn to control those otherwise involuntary muscles to make sounds instead of or in conjunction with the vocal chords. The false chords can be as much as an octave in frequency range below the vocal chords and by using their nasal cavity and mouth they can shape the sound to get those low tones. It's a very difficult technique to learn correctly. If not learned correctly it can damage the vocal chords. Tatiana is better than most at the technique. I would suggest Perennial Live at Wacken Open Air 2019 as a good next video. Who is Gonna be the One Live, Pit of Consciousness Live in Kyiv, Teacher Teacher, Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal all are very good as well.
As someone already said, next one is usually: Perennial live at wacken 2019 Other good ones to look at is Teacher teacher, Judgement and Punishment (one take vocal), Vortex and I speak Astronomy Also, thanks for a great reaction
It blows my mind to be concerned that she does that voice effortlessly. Never been trained or so. Just does that effortlessly! When you get to react to Perennial (live Wacken) it will blow your minds as well. Her voice is scarily wild 💚
Effortlessly and effortlessly. She's often out of breath afterwards (see for example Perennial @ Wacken), and it took her years to learn to do it the way she does it now. She can do it *seemingly* effortlessly and switch instantly, but it is bloody damn heavy exercise still.
Another great reaction ladies! I told you about Alyssa of Arch Enemy and also Tatiana of Jinjer. Both phenomenal singers. I give the edge to Tatiana, as she has lower growls than many males. Pisces is one of the most reacted to videos on YT for the shock value alone. Once you get used to Tatiana's growls, you will come to appreciate how talented the musicians in this band are! Roman on guitar, Eugene on bass, and Vlad on drums! All world class performers!!
Exactly! Tatiana, the singer, is Pisces. My late partner was Pisces and bipolar - this song totally fits! Smooth guitars like sunlight rippling on moving water and then...... PIRANHA!!!! See the goldfish in Tati's earrings? She was a teacher in Ukraine before she got "hooked" on music (pun intended). Imagine being the class clown? (not for long!)
Tatiana is the real deal! Perennial Live at Wacken 2019 is a great follow up to this gem. Her harsh vocals are amazing. Another band that would blow your mind is Spiritbox. Their song Blessed be has an amzing video.
This is very popular on TH-cam for reactor shock value. Tatiana is well known for her growl vocals, like Alissa of Arch Enemy. I personally like Tatiana's screaming upper register. She uses her false vocal folds for her growls so not to damage her vocal chords.
i remember some other reactors pausing, and looking quite confused, asking "How did this beautiful angel from heaven turn into a deamon from hell within a second?" this song is a perfect example of how amazing metal singers are :)
I remember when all those negative nancies were trolling the band because they said her "voice can't be real." "There's actually a guy somewhere doing that." "It's GOTTA be special sound effects", etc. etc. etc. So happy all those naysayers have been put to shame.
Been waiting for this. If you want to know how she does it, watch The Fairy Voice Mother reaction to this. You’ll also get a good laugh when Tatiana starts her growl.
The best part of it was, right before she picked up the tea, she said, "This is gonna be good." And I thought, "Truer words were never said!" And then she made fun of herself - that was awesome.
She's literally disengaging her vocal cords and using her false folds. It's basically clearing your throat while forming words with your mouth and she controls pitch by vowel placement. She's very masterful at it. Learning this helped me revolutionize my growl on the sax, because it's the same basic technique.
I love that you've seen 2 women doing extreme vocals now (Alissa White-Gluz of Arch Enemy) and both times been shocked and surprised but also gone - That's awesome! Extreme vocals are a specific technique, the sound is not tampered with electronically, and it requires proper knowledge because you can hurt yourself. The mechanics aside, I appreciate how growling brings new textures to music. As much as pitch and tone, the production of these very harsh sounds are part of narrative. This song is about duality, two beings co-existing, and part of the illustration of this is in the use of two radically different vocal techniques. As Tatiana switches between smooth pure sweet voice, and some of the hardest and deepest growls you're going to hear from a woman, that concept of duality is crystallised in your mind. Growling has a purpose and it has a meaning and I like that you are open to this rather than dismissing it as difficult noise.
The "demon voice" you speak of is a death metal growl. Accordin to vocal coaches, she's usin the lower part of vocal chords & makin it flutter a bit to get that deep gutteral growl. Awesome band from Ukraine
There is some production on Tatiana's voice both during the clean vocals and the growls, but she can switch from one to the other on a dime and is a damn good in both voices. There's a little pitch correction on her clean vocals, there's a second growling voice at various points, and there's a whisper track that carries on throughout the last verse and outro (and maybe more, I forget when it actually starts). There re times where the guitar is doubled as well. All that said, Jinjer is one of the most musically-interesting bands out there right now and my biggest regret of 2023 is scheduling a trip out west and thus not getting to see Jinjer when they were near my home.
When this came up in my Recommendeds, I wasted no time clicking on this to see your first reaction to Tatiana! She is a wonderful singer, and you gotta love the "demon voice"!! The best reaction, of course, was Lulu's.🤣
Interjecting "mine is gemini" is the most on-brand thing for a gemini to say. ;) I've seen them twice and they are epic. Tatiana practiced growls for 5 years starting when she was 15 before starting to use growling vocals in performances. She's now in her 30s and has been doing those growls more than half her life amd keeps getting stronger both clean and growled. Perennial live at Wacken (pronounced "Vah-ken" because it's in Germany 🇩🇪) is one of the best follow-up options. Subbed. Cheers!
I've had an opportunity to listen to Jinjer live and I've also had a rare opportunity to talk to the band as well. I'm from Croatia but I speak Russian, and I've definitely had a good talk with them. Tatiana is definitely a vocal beast and their live performances are top notch. Thank you for the reaction 🤟
It's always fun to see people react to this band. Jinjer is one of the tightest and most creative progressive hard music bands working today. Their writing is melodic and complex, and the musicians play so tightly. Great reaction.
Tatiana is a world-class growler and one of the best front women in metal today. The technical term would be called false fold vocals. The Jinjer rabbit hole is one of the best adventures in TH-cam.
Lol "demon voice" is false chord screaming/ growling. Jinjer is ukrainian proggy djent groove metal with complex time-signature maze, polyrhythms and multi-genre blending. They are one of the most talented 4-pieces ever. Tati is one of the best overall metal vocalists and lyricists in the business. Jinjer - Pisces (Live Session) Jinjer - Perennial (Live At Wacken 2019) Jinjer - Pit of Consciousness (Live in Kiev) Jinjer - On The Top (Live in Kiev) Jinjer - Who Is Gonna Be The One (Official Live) Jinjer - Judgement & Punishment (Tatiana One Take Vocal) Jinjer - Teacher Teacher (Official Video) Jinjer - Captain Clock (Live at Resurrection Fest 2018) Jinjer - Cloud Factory (Official Video) Jinjer - Outlander (failure .color Video) Jinjer - No Hoard of Value (Official Lyrics Video) Jinjer - I Speak Astronomy (Official Video) Jinjer - Vortex (Official Video) Jinjer - Wallflower (Official Video) Jinjer - Mediator (Official Video) Jinjer - Disclosure (Official Video) Jinjer - Call Me A Symbol (Official Video) Jinjer - Live At Wacken 2023
Thank you for your honest reaction. Jinjer rabbit hole is deep, enjoy the ride. My suggestion is to check the band Swallow the Sun and their masterpiece Plaque of Butterflies. 35 minutes of awesome metal and storytelling.
They are from Donetsk , in eastern Ukraine, where the fighting started in 2014. How does Tatiana do that? lol. She uses the false vocal folds , which are above the vocal chords. Just call it harsh vocals when you aren't sure. This live session is a redo of an older song in order to showcase Vlad on drums, who had joined not long before this. It went viral, however, because of her vocals. Roman on guitar, and Eugene on bass. All are awesome musicians. The heavy parts are metalcore. They switchup to other genres within a song quite often, Jazz and Reggae among the genres they switch to. When the current fighting started, the guys were stuck in Kiev, but were eventually allowed to leave , to tour and be ambassadors for Ukraine. Yes Lulu, Pisces like the Zodiac sign. The symbol for which is 2 fish swimming in opposite directions. So, the key word here is Duality. Tati wrote most of the lyrics, and she is a Pisces. Eugene , also a Pisces, helped her finish it off. Most common next step for this band is to see her do it live, with either Perennial at Wacken 2019 or Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev. Others to check out; Teacher Teacher, Judgenment (And Punishment), Home Back, I Speak Astronomy, Who is Gonna Be the One, and Vortex.
I didn't know that this was done to showcase the new drummer (who's excellent, by the way). Also, I wondered how the war affected the male members of the band, and I suspected what happened, but it's good to get confirmation. Thanks for sharing!
I must say I've never seen 6 eyes so wide open in my life, classic reaction, freaking awesome i think you need to do Teacher Teacher next since Lulu looks young enough to still be in school, best line says don't let the school make a fool of you because the teachers maybe fool too....
One of my favorite bands Jinjer, I saw them live last year and the band rocks live! I found out about this channel when I saw them reacting to Nightwish, incredible live band too. Keep in that way! , their gang reactions are very good hehe Greetings \m/
If you go down the Jinjer rabbit hole you should also check out " Teacher Teacher " official video, " Perennial " Live at Wacken, and at least " Who is gonna be the one " Live Napalm Records. A little known event... years ago a 9-10 foot bear walked out of the woods up to 5 foot nothing Tatiana. The bear stood up and growled at her.... she paused then growled back at the bear. The bear turned around and walked back into the woods never to be seen again.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Jinjer! I found them during the early days of the pandemic and they quickly became one of my favorite bands. Seen them live 3 times since and its always been an amazing show. A few examples of that on youtube to check out are Perennial Live at Wacken, Who Is Gonna Be The One Live at Atlas, and Pit Of Consciousness Live in Kiev. There are a bunch of other videos for them too for you to choose from so take your pick and see even more of their talent.
This type of voice, called growls, is played by many metal bands, many of them with female vocalists such as Jinjer, Vintersea, Arch enemy, lutharo, Ankor, Blackthorn... And many more.
Guys, you can't recommend that to the three of them. An old lady is present and the song regularly leads to respiratory arrest, cardiac arrhythmias and hysterical fits of laughter. The band would need a firearms license for this song. And the spectators always have a lot of fun. With many female growlers you can hear that they are women and have a softer sound. Tati growls better than most men and has a sweet voice. The jazzy vibe makes the band unique in metal. If you want to classify them, today they are Melodic Death Metal. It was former DeathCore. Instead of demons, the voice can also be compared to lions. That also depends on the context. The band was formed in Ukraine in 2008. It will be completely replaced by 2015, which is why they now name 2009 as their founding year. This year Tatiana Shmailyuk takes the mic. Pisces was the international breakthrough in 2016 and is about the zodiac sign. Tati herself is a Pisces. When civil war broke out in the east in 2014, the band fled from there to the west of the country. When Russia invades Ukraine in 2022, they are in Kiev and help defend the city on the civilian side. After that, due to the general mobilization, men of military age are no longer allowed to leave the country. The band was able to go on tour with a special permit and is raising money for the defense of Ukraine. Jinjer - Perennial (Live at Resurrection Fest EG 2022)
@@nwahally Most civil wars are supported from outside. The Russians conquered Crimea with the approval of the majority of the population. In Donetsk and Luhansk they had a proxy army whose leaders controlled the area. The integration and disempowerment of the Russian helpers will not take place until 2022.
KITTIE is an all-female Canadian band started back in the 90s became popular in the 00s. i do believe they are the first for singing in clean and growling voices. seen them in concert, good band - songs charlotte and brackish is their highest charting songs i do believe. give them some love ladies.
Jinjer and Arch Enemy toured Europe together before the pandemic. Alissa and others in the band are vegans, while Tati is not a clean-living person. They are from the eastern parts of Ukraine and it has been almost 10 years since their home was invaded by Russia (the war now does not start in February 2022 but already in 2014) so they were internally displaced in their own country even then and they have made a song I like from those with the theme of the "Home Back" which is a song you have to do (their songs are worth reading the lyrics after them, it's easy to miss something if you only shine) But I'm Swedish so I'm more for Arch Enemy and Alissa is friends with Floor and Elize (Amarathe) and they saved a show with NW before Floor was part of the band (2012 Denver) and last time the singer chose Alissa and books both Arch Emeny and Amatanthe and is friends with Simon in EPICA Floor did interviews with several artists on her own channel during the pandemic where they are all friends with her privately
Nana loves it!! It is a masterpiece. Pisces represents duality, and so does her voice. Hearing it for the first time breaks your brain. Have you heard Pantera "Cemetery Gates"? Listen to the version with the acoustic intro though.
Congratulations ladies!!! You've just passed your initiation into being official TH-cam reactors!!! If you're curious about harsh vocals. Check out the Jinjer "Pisces" reactions from The Charismatic Voice, Julia Nilon, The Fairy Voice Mother, and Beth Roars. They are all highly educated professional singers and vocal coaches and they break down all the anatomy and technical "how do they do that?" very well. I will now be waiting for you reaction to Lorna Shore. Quite possibly the pentacle of harsh vocals. And lastly... Lulu, from one Gemini to another, you are a WONDERFUL mess and don't every change!!!!
Hey ladies, I absolutely love your reactions!! Maybe try Jinjer's Judgement & Punishment live session - Tatiana is an absolute beast and the band are all awesome! Thanks for making me smile!😁❤️
She's so skilled, and the band is amazing too. Cool to see you be open-minded about it and accepting instead of judgemental and rude just because you don't understand the genre. Respect!
One of the reactors I watched (yes I'm addicted to watching reactions of this song) said if you want to start making a sound like this, you start making the kind of sound you'd make if you were lifting something super heavy. You try to relax your throat and lean into that sound. For years.
She is absolutely doing the growling voice. Saw the band live in Prague, sounds the same if not better. Can't wait to see them this year again. They are from Ukraine :)
The dinner has so much talent being able to do that. She spent 20 years developing it. The band is really good. Every song has a deep meaning. The next one you should listen to from them if you are untested in going down that road, is a love song called who's gonna be the one...a song about someone needs to step up and take the lead to start to save the planet... Great songs... anyway, with the love song you can really see her use the voice.... and you can really see the bands talent.. Great reaction. thank you 😊
great reaction! Tati is a beast when it comes to vocals, i would say the usual progression is next would be Perennial live at Wacken. The band also is amazing at their craft. Please make sure you read the lyrics so you can also see how the songs are like poetry. I found reading the lyrics while listening will help train your ear to this style of music, eventually you will not need the lyrics and will be able to understand her clearly. I love their music videos as well, my Favs are scissors (older song) and retrospection.
The "demon voice" is called screaming or growling, it is produced by the false vocal cords. It's a technique that can be learned in a couple minutes but takes a talent to perfect like this. Also, death metal is a common umbrella term for the subgenre with these vocals. Jinjer is more of a metalcore or a deathcore band. BTW you may want to check the lyrics, it's pure poetry. Also, Lulu is toast.
Great reaction! Welcome to the wonderful world of Jinjer. Tatiana is a vocal Goddess! The next song you should check out by Jinjer is Perennial live at Wacken. Followed by Teacher Teacher official video. Next Who’s gonna be one live performance. Also Vortex Judgement and Punishment one take vocal performance. Then you can’t go wrong with any other Jinjer songs. Home Back, Call me a symbol , Wallflower and the list goes on! You girls Rock! More reactions please!
You are all so genuine and wholesome 😊 thanks for cheering me up today ✌️ It's technically called a "vocal fry". You know how you have vocal folds in your larynx that vibrate to make sounds? Well above those tonal folds there are other flaps called "false folds" they are more loose and difficult to engage but with proper technique you can vibrate those false folds with breath control to allow for those growling sounds to come out. It goes without saying that every person is different and built in their own unique way and the shape and musculature of your respratory system are a key component in your body's ability to achieve certain sounds. It just so happens that she is most likely and literally "built" for this. Along with of course a lot of training and technique. I need to mention that you should not try to imitate a vocal fry without ample research on the safety, warm-ups and techniques necessary to achieve these sounds. And it's wise to take vocal lessons. YOU CAN SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOURSELF, AND SOMETIMES PERMANENTLY IF YOU USE IMPROPER TECHNIQUE!!! I had a friend in high school who did some bad damage to his vocal chords and it seriously impacted his musical career and life. The key point is, if you feel any discomfort, STOP! I apologize for the rant but it's a fascinating subject. If you guys are interested in a dazzling display of vocal control and art from indigenous Altai, Tuvan and Mongolian culture check out "throat singing" here is my favorite video of an Altai group from Russia th-cam.com/video/Mhr0XbGBOPg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Qvln5956CpdXsFXA it's amazing and beautiful.
If you want to see Tatiana do the voice change all by herself, you should check out Judgement (and Punishment). She is the only one there supplying the vocal track for the song. I bet you will be interested in seeing this Post. And great reactions to this Post.
I saw them live 4 times by now and i just can't manage to get tired of it😅 I love this band so much. I see alot of beauty in the contrast of this music, the calm parts make the harsh ones seem more emotionally impactful and the harsch parts puts alot of perspective on how truely beautiful the calm parts are.
Dear ladies, just a hint on how she does it - from a vocal coach/musicologist: Try an angry, raspy sigh. Do you feel something vibrating high up in your throat, almost at the base of your tongue? Those are the false vocal folds, a.k.a. vestibular folds. Now try to imitate a big bad dog and bark using the same kind of rasp... now you're getting closer, you can hear that your voice is not only raspy and aggressive, but also much deeper. Tatiana is like a hybrid car with two distinct and separate engines. She uses her normal vocal folds for her clean vocals and the vestibular folds for the growls. That is why she can switch back and forth between the two sometimes in less then a second (as you'll see and hear if you watch more Jinjer performances). Of course this is much easier to explain than to actually accomplish, the latter takes an enormous amount of practice. People tend to overestimate talent and underestimate work. Of course, if one is talented it makes it all easier. But even the most talented person won't get anywhere if he or she doesn't put in the thousands of hours of practice.
Watch The Fairy Voice mother react to this - after the spits out her tea in surprise she explains exactly how Tatiana, the singer, produces this sound. She is an amazing reactor to watch anyway. It is called a false vocal cord scream...
There’s a little bit of studio magic to bring everything to the levels it should be, and a slight bit of reverb, but otherwise that’s all her. It’s not something I would recommend everyone try without the proper training. Most people call it harsh vocals or screaming. The technique Tatiana specifically uses predominantly is a non tonal one, so her actual voice doesn’t come through it at all, whereas someone like Courtney of Spiritbox uses a tonal technique, so it moves around and changes tones, and they’re tones in her normal vocal range.
There are two techniques used to produce this type of harsh vocal sound, I've no idea how exactly to describe them but there are several vocal coaches on TH-cam that have exceptional explanations of how it is done. One method is called "Vocal Fry" the other is referred to as "False Cord". My understanding is that they both produce a harsh resonant growl distortion to the voice. After the technique, the 'quality' of the growling sound is also dependent on (amazing) breath control and the shape (and use) of the skull structure that generates air movement and sound. Tati has the techniques mastered no doubt - live it is even more amazing.
Pisces- two fish one angelic and one demonic in one person fighting for control. It’s the Yen and Yang of the zodiac. Some people call it a metal scream but I think it’s screaming growl and it’s made by the false vocal cords and tongue with a lot of air. She trained till she had a growl that sounded like a male growl, they are a Ukrainian band by the way.
The "demon voice" technique is called false cord. It's a type of pitchless scream. This is all Tati, though there is a good amount of post-production work on this live session. Check out Perennial Live at Wacken 2019 for an amazing live performance on stage.
Great, entertaining reaction! You ladies did a wonderful job. As many have pointed out, "demon" vocals are often known as harsh vocals in metal music. And while Tatiana can sing beautifully, it is the depths of her false chord growls that shock most who are unaware of the technique. Honestly, most people can activate their false chords by sighing heavily. Be sure to check out "Perennial" live at Wacken, "Judgement and Punishment" one take, and "Teacher, Teacher".
Tatiana is amazing! I'd suggest Perennial live @ Wacken for your next Jinjer reaction. It's a kickass show and shows her vocal abilities perfectly! Both clean and growling :)
That is her actual vocals. The deeper "demon" sounds are called gutterals, or growls, and are done using a technique involving the false folds just above your true vocal folds, and is how they can make those sounds without hurting there voice. The higher screams are a vocal fry technique that is utilized in many forms of singing, and done properly also doesnt hurt the voice. Also fun fact, the growls are the same sort of technique used by throat singers.
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That is 100% Tatiana's voice. It will never get old watching people's reaction to this video. Typically that style of vocals is called growling, screaming and/or harsh vocals. There are other terms people use but those 3 are the most common
What fun...😈
Lulu...breathe!!!
Ayup. "Metal screams" is one umbrella term. What Tati does are mostly death metal growls, but not all screams are growls.
"Distorted" or "dirty" vocals also work. The traditional singing is called "clean singing" in this context, so dirty is kind of opposite of it.
Also: Grunting
Always called it 'vocal fry'. Her softer voice would be her 'head' voice.
Jinjer is a spectacular band! All Hail Queen Tati!
"Perennial" live at Wacken 2019 and "Judgement and Punishment" one take vocal are great next videos. "Teacher Teacher", "I Speak Astronomy", "Who Is Gonna Be the One" - Live. No end with Jinjer.
Best reaction to Pisces since the Fairy Voice Mother spit out a mouthful of tea! Jinger is from Ukraine and the lead singer is Tatiana. She is self-taught to achieve her sound. The term i've heard to describe the 'demon voice' is harsh vocals. Great reaction!
Oh my GOSH! The Fairy Voice Mother was the very first reaction I saw to this video, Mike, and it was hiLARious! I will always remember that reaction since it was my first TH-cam reaction ever! :D
Omg, how can any reaction measure up to that? Her analysis is great!
I ❤ Lolli!!!
Oh come on, it was so obvious she new exactly when to drink that tea. i never watched her channel again.
@@grinmaul jokes on you. Even if it was fake she has great analysis of vocal and growling techniques and the mini-tutorial on growling in her Hypa Hypa reaction is some if the most actionable info I've seen on the subject.
Congrats! Y'all are true reactors now. It's kind of a thing that reactors have to get trolled by this song. There are compilation videos just of people's reactions to this video. Having said that - can you imagine if Tatiana has kids and they misbehave?! "Noooo, Mommy, don't bring out *the voice!* I'll be good!"
OMG this is THE comment of the day!!
😂🤣poor kids
The way you describe it calling it the voice...damn Bene Gesserit ( from Frank Herbert's Dune series ) manifestation irl right there.
and she was a teacher before! The entire class was SO good for her!
Hello girls from little Switzerland 🇨🇭🙃 Welcome to the Jinjer rabbit hole, with a far above average talented band full of musicians who master their instruments, especially because they cleverly integrate some other music genres like no other band in heavy metal so far! Roman on guitar, Eugene on bass, Vladislav "Vlad" drummer, who is not actually a drummer, guitarist was in his previous band, but also mastered bass perfectly, but he also only learned these two instruments to perfection "on the side" and actually a fully trained professional classical music concert pianist in Ukraine at the Classical Music Conservatory 🤯!!! And yes, Tatjana is the front woman and singer of the band and is simply Bad🍑 Girl with probably the most extreme vocal techniques in the heavy metal genre among female singers! There are many other very well-known and good metal singers, but Tati is simply the absolute unicorn 🦄 because she can growl extremely low like no other, and at the same time she can scream as high as Eingel's voice, which is clear and can reach very high tones! And what sets her apart even more from everyone else, she is even more impressive live on stage than in videos! She does the live without any technical audio help from the sound engineer and software, like so many others! You'll hear it at the latest when you hear all of them live at a concert!!! That's many years of practicing, practicing, practicing and training and improving your voice technique! Here's a little help with all the songs - links of the band...😉🤘🏼
Band Music Evolution 2011-2019
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Scissors
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Exposed as a Liar - Official Music Video
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Waltz - Live Club Show 2012 Moscow
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Until the End - Live Festival Respublica 2015
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Destroy - Live Club Show Sofia 2013
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I want it i'll get it - Live Club Show 2014
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Outlander - Live Club Show
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Cloud Factory Official Music Video
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Cloud Factory - Live Club Show 2014 Moscow
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Who is Gonna Be the One - 2013 Club Show Kunterbunt
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Who is Gonna Be the One - Festival 2017
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Bad Water - Live Club Show 2018
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Bad Water - Official Music Video
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Captain Clock - Live Resurrection Festival 2018
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Captain Clock - Live Club Show Madrid ~ 2015/16
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Words of Wisdom - Live Festival Show
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Words of Wisdom - Official Music Video
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I Speak Astronomy - Live SummerBrezzeFestival 2018
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I Speak Astronomy - Official Music Video
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Sit Stay Roll Over - Live 2020 Tour in Melbourne
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Sit Stay Roll Over - Official Music Video
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Pisces - Live Resurrection Festival 2018
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Pisces - Live Wacken Festival 2019
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Pisces - Studio Session (Official first Video with Vladislav Ulasevych Drummer 2016)
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IainnereP 😉 - Live Resurrection Festival 2022
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lainnereP 🤫 - Live Wacken Version 2019
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lainnereP 🤘🏼 - Official Music Video
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The Prophecy - Live Strandkorb Festival 2020
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The Prophecy - Official Music Video
this crazy hip hop, rap vibrations, some say
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Noah - Live Strandkorb Festival 2020
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Noah - Official Music Video
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Home Back - Live Bloodstock Festival 2022
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Home Back - Official Music Video
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Retrospection - Live Concert New Live Sound Mix Dezember 2023
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Retrospection - Live Club Show / Tour
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Retrospection - Official Music Video
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Judgement (&Punishment) Live in Melbourne 2020
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Judgement (&Punishment) - Tatjana One Take Studio
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Judgement (&Punishment) - Official Music Video
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Pit of Consciousness - Live Show Kiev
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Pit of Consciousness - Official Music Video
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On The Top - Live Show Kiev
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On The Top - Official Music Video
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Teacher, Teacher - Live Club Show/Tour Melbourne
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Teacher, Teacher - Official Music Video
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Teacher, Teacher - Official Music Video with new Audio
Live remixed Januar 2024
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Ape - Live Mystic Festival 2019
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Ape - Official Music Video
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Call Me A Symbol - Live Official Music Video 2023
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Call Me A Symbol - Live Bloodstock Festival 2022
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Call Me A Symbol - Official Music Video
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Colossus - Live Hellfest 2022
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Vortex - Live Hellfest COVID-19 Pandemic Time
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Vortex - Official Music Video
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Disclosure! - Live Hellfest 2022
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Disclosure! - Official Music Video
With Dmitry Oksen as "Agent Smith 😉" the guitarist & founding member of the band Jinjer 2009, left in 2015!
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Copycat - Official Playthrough Drummer Vlad
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Wallflower - Official Music Video
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Mediator - Official Music Video
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I didn't take into account all collabrations between the band Jinjer and Tatjana with other artists & bands with live performances or music videos!
As an example, Hello Death as a single from April 2022...
The order compiled here is not 100% arranged like the album playlist, because sometimes there are no music videos, or they are not good enough quality for me to list here! I started adding to the list, step by step a few years ago with the available songs, qualities and release dates. I'll probably add to the list next year, i.e. more likely at the end / autumn of 2024 when Jinjer starts in the studio with the planned new album!
Jinjer along with The Warning, have saved modern music for this old rocker! Two of the most exciting bands in decades!
My two favorite bands. Haven't heard much music this interesting in a long time.
⚠I am completely addicted to The Warning!!! ⚠
Ditto for me.
I agree, although I also add in Mammoth WVH into that list. Wolfgang Van Halen is incredible.
Check out masterpiece by the anchor. Great song
100% her, meet Tatiana and the band, unbelievable talent
Jinjer is the best thing out there! Perennial live at Wacken next. Judgement & Punishment one take vocal after. Vortex, Teacher Teacher, Wallflower…so many amazing songs/videos. Welcome to the Jinjer family ❤
Theres alot of great groups imo jinjer stp spritbox much much more
I’ll take Alissa white gluz
The "Demon voice" is called growl
ladies > great reaction to a world class band!!!!!!
thanx and lovely greetings from germany
Thank you so much!
It’s amazing what sounds a person can make using the Growling technique. Not for everyone but it has its place.
It’s really cool you are open to listening to tracks like this. 🙂
So that technique is called false chord screaming/growling. The "false vocal chords" sit above the actual vocal chords and extend over the vocal chords when you swallow to help keep food from going down the wrong way. Singers who learn this technique learn to control those otherwise involuntary muscles to make sounds instead of or in conjunction with the vocal chords. The false chords can be as much as an octave in frequency range below the vocal chords and by using their nasal cavity and mouth they can shape the sound to get those low tones. It's a very difficult technique to learn correctly. If not learned correctly it can damage the vocal chords. Tatiana is better than most at the technique.
I would suggest Perennial Live at Wacken Open Air 2019 as a good next video. Who is Gonna be the One Live, Pit of Consciousness Live in Kyiv, Teacher Teacher, Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal all are very good as well.
As someone already said, next one is usually: Perennial live at wacken 2019
Other good ones to look at is Teacher teacher, Judgement and Punishment (one take vocal), Vortex and I speak Astronomy
Also, thanks for a great reaction
It blows my mind to be concerned that she does that voice effortlessly. Never been trained or so. Just does that effortlessly!
When you get to react to Perennial (live Wacken) it will blow your minds as well. Her voice is scarily wild 💚
Effortlessly and effortlessly. She's often out of breath afterwards (see for example Perennial @ Wacken), and it took her years to learn to do it the way she does it now.
She can do it *seemingly* effortlessly and switch instantly, but it is bloody damn heavy exercise still.
Another great reaction ladies! I told you about Alyssa of Arch Enemy and also Tatiana of Jinjer. Both phenomenal singers. I give the edge to Tatiana, as she has lower growls than many males. Pisces is one of the most reacted to videos on YT for the shock value alone. Once you get used to Tatiana's growls, you will come to appreciate how talented the musicians in this band are! Roman on guitar, Eugene on bass, and Vlad on drums! All world class performers!!
Exactly! Tatiana, the singer, is Pisces. My late partner was Pisces and bipolar - this song totally fits! Smooth guitars like sunlight rippling on moving water and then...... PIRANHA!!!! See the goldfish in Tati's earrings? She was a teacher in Ukraine before she got "hooked" on music (pun intended). Imagine being the class clown? (not for long!)
Tatiana is the real deal! Perennial Live at Wacken 2019 is a great follow up to this gem. Her harsh vocals are amazing. Another band that would blow your mind is Spiritbox. Their song Blessed be has an amzing video.
This is very popular on TH-cam for reactor shock value. Tatiana is well known for her growl vocals, like Alissa of Arch Enemy. I personally like Tatiana's screaming upper register. She uses her false vocal folds for her growls so not to damage her vocal chords.
i remember some other reactors pausing, and looking quite confused, asking "How did this beautiful angel from heaven turn into a deamon from hell within a second?"
this song is a perfect example of how amazing metal singers are :)
I remember when all those negative nancies were trolling the band because they said her "voice can't be real." "There's actually a guy somewhere doing that." "It's GOTTA be special sound effects", etc. etc. etc. So happy all those naysayers have been put to shame.
Been waiting for this. If you want to know how she does it, watch The Fairy Voice Mother reaction to this. You’ll also get a good laugh when Tatiana starts her growl.
NOOOO, don't drink the tea! Not now!
@@TimberWolf762 I know. When I saw that cup going to her lips I knew what was going to happen. It was priceless.
The best part of it was, right before she picked up the tea, she said, "This is gonna be good." And I thought, "Truer words were never said!"
And then she made fun of herself - that was awesome.
Try a popular live performance by Jinjer, “Perennial” “Who’s Gonna Be The One” ✌🏼👍🏼😎
She's literally disengaging her vocal cords and using her false folds. It's basically clearing your throat while forming words with your mouth and she controls pitch by vowel placement. She's very masterful at it. Learning this helped me revolutionize my growl on the sax, because it's the same basic technique.
I love that you've seen 2 women doing extreme vocals now (Alissa White-Gluz of Arch Enemy) and both times been shocked and surprised but also gone - That's awesome!
Extreme vocals are a specific technique, the sound is not tampered with electronically, and it requires proper knowledge because you can hurt yourself. The mechanics aside, I appreciate how growling brings new textures to music. As much as pitch and tone, the production of these very harsh sounds are part of narrative. This song is about duality, two beings co-existing, and part of the illustration of this is in the use of two radically different vocal techniques. As Tatiana switches between smooth pure sweet voice, and some of the hardest and deepest growls you're going to hear from a woman, that concept of duality is crystallised in your mind.
Growling has a purpose and it has a meaning and I like that you are open to this rather than dismissing it as difficult noise.
The "demon voice" you speak of is a death metal growl. Accordin to vocal coaches, she's usin the lower part of vocal chords & makin it flutter a bit to get that deep gutteral growl. Awesome band from Ukraine
Yep that's all her watch perennial waken 2018
There is some production on Tatiana's voice both during the clean vocals and the growls, but she can switch from one to the other on a dime and is a damn good in both voices. There's a little pitch correction on her clean vocals, there's a second growling voice at various points, and there's a whisper track that carries on throughout the last verse and outro (and maybe more, I forget when it actually starts). There re times where the guitar is doubled as well.
All that said, Jinjer is one of the most musically-interesting bands out there right now and my biggest regret of 2023 is scheduling a trip out west and thus not getting to see Jinjer when they were near my home.
Welcome to Jinjer. That's all her. She uses what we call false chords. Perennial live at Wacken shows her talent well.
They're a real deal 😊
Tati's growling is massive, I've seen them live several times.
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Blind Guardian - The Bard's Song & Valhalla - Live at Wacken Open Air 2016
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When this came up in my Recommendeds, I wasted no time clicking on this to see your first reaction to Tatiana! She is a wonderful singer, and you gotta love the "demon voice"!! The best reaction, of course, was Lulu's.🤣
Wow, thank you!
Seen them live 3 times now. One of the best bands around :)
Interjecting "mine is gemini" is the most on-brand thing for a gemini to say. ;) I've seen them twice and they are epic. Tatiana practiced growls for 5 years starting when she was 15 before starting to use growling vocals in performances. She's now in her 30s and has been doing those growls more than half her life amd keeps getting stronger both clean and growled. Perennial live at Wacken (pronounced "Vah-ken" because it's in Germany 🇩🇪) is one of the best follow-up options. Subbed. Cheers!
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Best next stop parennial live at wacken 2019 🎉😮golden queen of matal 🎉
When I see bands like Jinjer, The Warning, and Band Maid it gives me hope for music going forward. Nice reaction!
I've had an opportunity to listen to Jinjer live and I've also had a rare opportunity to talk to the band as well. I'm from Croatia but I speak Russian, and I've definitely had a good talk with them. Tatiana is definitely a vocal beast and their live performances are top notch. Thank you for the reaction 🤟
It's always fun to see people react to this band. Jinjer is one of the tightest and most creative progressive hard music bands working today. Their writing is melodic and complex, and the musicians play so tightly. Great reaction.
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Tatiana is a world-class growler and one of the best front women in metal today. The technical term would be called false fold vocals. The Jinjer rabbit hole is one of the best adventures in TH-cam.
Lol "demon voice" is false chord screaming/ growling. Jinjer is ukrainian proggy djent groove metal with complex time-signature maze, polyrhythms and multi-genre blending. They are one of the most talented 4-pieces ever. Tati is one of the best overall metal vocalists and lyricists in the business.
Jinjer - Pisces (Live Session)
Jinjer - Perennial (Live At Wacken 2019)
Jinjer - Pit of Consciousness (Live in Kiev)
Jinjer - On The Top (Live in Kiev)
Jinjer - Who Is Gonna Be The One (Official Live)
Jinjer - Judgement & Punishment (Tatiana One Take Vocal)
Jinjer - Teacher Teacher (Official Video)
Jinjer - Captain Clock (Live at Resurrection Fest 2018)
Jinjer - Cloud Factory (Official Video)
Jinjer - Outlander (failure .color Video)
Jinjer - No Hoard of Value (Official Lyrics Video)
Jinjer - I Speak Astronomy (Official Video)
Jinjer - Vortex (Official Video)
Jinjer - Wallflower (Official Video)
Jinjer - Mediator (Official Video)
Jinjer - Disclosure (Official Video)
Jinjer - Call Me A Symbol (Official Video)
Jinjer - Live At Wacken 2023
Clicked as soon as I saw what you was reacting to.... this will be fun.
Me too!
Same here!!😅
Thank you for your honest reaction. Jinjer rabbit hole is deep, enjoy the ride.
My suggestion is to check the band Swallow the Sun and their masterpiece Plaque of Butterflies. 35 minutes of awesome metal and storytelling.
They are from Donetsk , in eastern Ukraine, where the fighting started in 2014. How does Tatiana do that? lol. She uses the false vocal folds , which are above the vocal chords. Just call it harsh vocals when you aren't sure. This live session is a redo of an older song in order to showcase Vlad on drums, who had joined not long before this. It went viral, however, because of her vocals. Roman on guitar, and Eugene on bass. All are awesome musicians. The heavy parts are metalcore. They switchup to other genres within a song quite often, Jazz and Reggae among the genres they switch to.
When the current fighting started, the guys were stuck in Kiev, but were eventually allowed to leave , to tour and be ambassadors for Ukraine.
Yes Lulu, Pisces like the Zodiac sign. The symbol for which is 2 fish swimming in opposite directions. So, the key word here is Duality. Tati wrote most of the lyrics, and she is a Pisces. Eugene , also a Pisces, helped her finish it off.
Most common next step for this band is to see her do it live, with either Perennial at Wacken 2019 or Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev. Others to check out; Teacher Teacher, Judgenment (And Punishment), Home Back, I Speak Astronomy, Who is Gonna Be the One, and Vortex.
I didn't know that this was done to showcase the new drummer (who's excellent, by the way). Also, I wondered how the war affected the male members of the band, and I suspected what happened, but it's good to get confirmation. Thanks for sharing!
😂 Donna!, Awesome reaction! Yes, Tatiana does that naturally, and does so live just as well.
I must say I've never seen 6 eyes so wide open in my life, classic reaction, freaking awesome i think you need to do Teacher Teacher next since Lulu looks young enough to still be in school, best line says don't let the school make a fool of you because the teachers maybe fool too....
One of my favorite bands Jinjer, I saw them live last year and the band rocks live! I found out about this channel when I saw them reacting to Nightwish, incredible live band too.
Keep in that way! , their gang reactions are very good hehe
Greetings \m/
You will definitely enjoy the Jinjer rabbit hole. I’ve seen them live four times and they are absolutely phenomenal.
Knowing what was coming, that was a great wait for your joint reactions. And you three didn't disappoint. 😂
i finally got the chance to see the live in mid 23, they did not disappoint at all, they put on a great show.
If you go down the Jinjer rabbit hole you should also check out " Teacher Teacher " official video, " Perennial " Live at Wacken, and at least " Who is gonna be the one " Live Napalm Records. A little known event... years ago a 9-10 foot bear walked out of the woods up to 5 foot nothing Tatiana. The bear stood up and growled at her.... she paused then growled back at the bear. The bear turned around and walked back into the woods never to be seen again.
I recently saw them live. They're all so talented! I love introducing people to them. :-D
Welcome to the wonderful world of Jinjer! I found them during the early days of the pandemic and they quickly became one of my favorite bands. Seen them live 3 times since and its always been an amazing show. A few examples of that on youtube to check out are Perennial Live at Wacken, Who Is Gonna Be The One Live at Atlas, and Pit Of Consciousness Live in Kiev. There are a bunch of other videos for them too for you to choose from so take your pick and see even more of their talent.
The laugh from the youngest is from another world...
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I always get a shopping cart sounding like her when I do groceries 😭
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Sounded like a wounded seagull 😂
I absolutely loved the look on Kathy's face when the death metal vocals started 😂
This type of voice, called growls, is played by many metal bands, many of them with female vocalists such as Jinjer, Vintersea, Arch enemy, lutharo, Ankor, Blackthorn... And many more.
Guys, you can't recommend that to the three of them. An old lady is present and the song regularly leads to respiratory arrest, cardiac arrhythmias and hysterical fits of laughter. The band would need a firearms license for this song. And the spectators always have a lot of fun.
With many female growlers you can hear that they are women and have a softer sound. Tati growls better than most men and has a sweet voice. The jazzy vibe makes the band unique in metal. If you want to classify them, today they are Melodic Death Metal. It was former DeathCore.
Instead of demons, the voice can also be compared to lions. That also depends on the context.
The band was formed in Ukraine in 2008. It will be completely replaced by 2015, which is why they now name 2009 as their founding year. This year Tatiana Shmailyuk takes the mic. Pisces was the international breakthrough in 2016 and is about the zodiac sign. Tati herself is a Pisces.
When civil war broke out in the east in 2014, the band fled from there to the west of the country. When Russia invades Ukraine in 2022, they are in Kiev and help defend the city on the civilian side. After that, due to the general mobilization, men of military age are no longer allowed to leave the country. The band was able to go on tour with a special permit and is raising money for the defense of Ukraine.
Jinjer - Perennial (Live at Resurrection Fest EG 2022)
2014 was Russia's first invasion, not a civil war.
@@nwahally Most civil wars are supported from outside. The Russians conquered Crimea with the approval of the majority of the population. In Donetsk and Luhansk they had a proxy army whose leaders controlled the area. The integration and disempowerment of the Russian helpers will not take place until 2022.
i think you need to listen to "Judgement and Punishment" by Jinjer now please.
KITTIE is an all-female Canadian band started back in the 90s became popular in the 00s. i do believe they are the first for singing in clean and growling voices. seen them in concert, good band - songs charlotte and brackish is their highest charting songs i do believe. give them some love ladies.
You should do "Circle with me - Spirit box (one take)" to see another fantastic female metal singer.
Jinjer and Arch Enemy toured Europe together before the pandemic. Alissa and others in the band are vegans, while Tati is not a clean-living person.
They are from the eastern parts of Ukraine and it has been almost 10 years since their home was invaded by Russia (the war now does not start in February 2022 but already in 2014) so they were internally displaced in their own country even then and they have made a song I like from those with the theme of the "Home Back" which is a song you have to do (their songs are worth reading the lyrics after them, it's easy to miss something if you only shine)
But I'm Swedish so I'm more for Arch Enemy and Alissa is friends with Floor and Elize (Amarathe) and they saved a show with NW before Floor was part of the band (2012 Denver) and last time the singer chose Alissa and books both Arch Emeny and Amatanthe and is friends with Simon in EPICA
Floor did interviews with several artists on her own channel during the pandemic where they are all friends with her privately
Try Judgement and Punishment (one take vocal).
Saw them live three years ago with my daughter.
She is amazing!
also try Who is going to be the one live. its her on stage at a festival. all her voice guys.
Nana loves it!! It is a masterpiece. Pisces represents duality, and so does her voice. Hearing it for the first time breaks your brain.
Have you heard Pantera "Cemetery Gates"? Listen to the version with the acoustic intro though.
Congratulations ladies!!! You've just passed your initiation into being official TH-cam reactors!!!
If you're curious about harsh vocals. Check out the Jinjer "Pisces" reactions from The Charismatic Voice, Julia Nilon, The Fairy Voice Mother, and Beth Roars. They are all highly educated professional singers and vocal coaches and they break down all the anatomy and technical "how do they do that?" very well.
I will now be waiting for you reaction to Lorna Shore. Quite possibly the pentacle of harsh vocals.
And lastly... Lulu, from one Gemini to another, you are a WONDERFUL mess and don't every change!!!!
Thank you
Hey ladies, I absolutely love your reactions!! Maybe try Jinjer's Judgement & Punishment live session - Tatiana is an absolute beast and the band are all awesome! Thanks for making me smile!😁❤️
Thank you
She's so skilled, and the band is amazing too. Cool to see you be open-minded about it and accepting instead of judgemental and rude just because you don't understand the genre. Respect!
The kid is fantastic! She's precious! And honest!
One of the reactors I watched (yes I'm addicted to watching reactions of this song) said if you want to start making a sound like this, you start making the kind of sound you'd make if you were lifting something super heavy. You try to relax your throat and lean into that sound. For years.
She is absolutely doing the growling voice. Saw the band live in Prague, sounds the same if not better. Can't wait to see them this year again. They are from Ukraine :)
I’ve had the privilege to see Jinjer live and this is 100% her, at Bloodstock if ypu want to watch the actual gig i saw.
Nice reaction!! You girls just found the magic rabiit hole....get into it you won't regret ever Jinjer is out of this world....
Time for more Jinjer... Teacher Teacher, Judgement & Punishment, Vortex... I could go on for days
The dinner has so much talent being able to do that. She spent 20 years developing it. The band is really good. Every song has a deep meaning. The next one you should listen to from them if you are untested in going down that road, is a love song called who's gonna be the one...a song about someone needs to step up and take the lead to start to save the planet... Great songs... anyway, with the love song you can really see her use the voice.... and you can really see the bands talent.. Great reaction. thank you 😊
So fun! Lulu's reaction was worth the replay of the entire video. Keep it going. Ginger is great live, also.
Welcome to the Jinjer rabbit hole. Enjoy the many great songs like Perennial, Teacher Teacher or Bad Water.
great reaction! Tati is a beast when it comes to vocals, i would say the usual progression is next would be Perennial live at Wacken. The band also is amazing at their craft. Please make sure you read the lyrics so you can also see how the songs are like poetry. I found reading the lyrics while listening will help train your ear to this style of music, eventually you will not need the lyrics and will be able to understand her clearly. I love their music videos as well, my Favs are scissors (older song) and retrospection.
The "demon voice" is called screaming or growling, it is produced by the false vocal cords. It's a technique that can be learned in a couple minutes but takes a talent to perfect like this. Also, death metal is a common umbrella term for the subgenre with these vocals. Jinjer is more of a metalcore or a deathcore band. BTW you may want to check the lyrics, it's pure poetry.
Also, Lulu is toast.
Great reaction! Welcome to the wonderful world of Jinjer. Tatiana is a vocal Goddess! The next song you should check out by Jinjer is Perennial live at Wacken. Followed by Teacher Teacher official video. Next Who’s gonna be one live performance. Also Vortex Judgement and Punishment one take vocal performance. Then you can’t go wrong with any other Jinjer songs. Home Back, Call me a symbol , Wallflower and the list goes on! You girls Rock! More reactions please!
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Reactions to this song never cease to amaze!
i love nana's reaction the most. she was surprised she liked it too. Tatiana IS SUCH A BEAST!
You are all so genuine and wholesome 😊 thanks for cheering me up today ✌️
It's technically called a "vocal fry". You know how you have vocal folds in your larynx that vibrate to make sounds? Well above those tonal folds there are other flaps called "false folds" they are more loose and difficult to engage but with proper technique you can vibrate those false folds with breath control to allow for those growling sounds to come out.
It goes without saying that every person is different and built in their own unique way and the shape and musculature of your respratory system are a key component in your body's ability to achieve certain sounds. It just so happens that she is most likely and literally "built" for this. Along with of course a lot of training and technique.
I need to mention that you should not try to imitate a vocal fry without ample research on the safety, warm-ups and techniques necessary to achieve these sounds. And it's wise to take vocal lessons.
YOU CAN SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOURSELF, AND SOMETIMES PERMANENTLY IF YOU USE IMPROPER TECHNIQUE!!! I had a friend in high school who did some bad damage to his vocal chords and it seriously impacted his musical career and life. The key point is, if you feel any discomfort, STOP!
I apologize for the rant but it's a fascinating subject. If you guys are interested in a dazzling display of vocal control and art from indigenous Altai, Tuvan and Mongolian culture check out "throat singing" here is my favorite video of an Altai group from Russia th-cam.com/video/Mhr0XbGBOPg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Qvln5956CpdXsFXA it's amazing and beautiful.
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If you want to see Tatiana do the voice change all by herself, you should check out Judgement (and Punishment). She is the only one there supplying the vocal track for the song. I bet you will be interested in seeing this Post. And great reactions to this Post.
I must confess: I simply love Pisces first reactions ... It never fails!!!! :D
I saw them live 4 times by now and i just can't manage to get tired of it😅
I love this band so much.
I see alot of beauty in the contrast of this music, the calm parts make the harsh ones seem more emotionally impactful and the harsch parts puts alot of perspective on how truely beautiful the calm parts are.
I don’t think I’ll ever get sick of seeing people react to this song 😂
These are called Harsh Vocals. :D welcome to the club
Dear ladies, just a hint on how she does it - from a vocal coach/musicologist:
Try an angry, raspy sigh. Do you feel something vibrating high up in your throat, almost at the base of your tongue?
Those are the false vocal folds, a.k.a. vestibular folds.
Now try to imitate a big bad dog and bark using the same kind of rasp... now you're getting closer, you can hear that your voice is not only raspy and aggressive, but also much deeper.
Tatiana is like a hybrid car with two distinct and separate engines. She uses her normal vocal folds for her clean vocals and the vestibular folds for the growls. That is why she can switch back and forth between the two sometimes in less then a second (as you'll see and hear if you watch more Jinjer performances).
Of course this is much easier to explain than to actually accomplish, the latter takes an enormous amount of practice.
People tend to overestimate talent and underestimate work.
Of course, if one is talented it makes it all easier. But even the most talented person won't get anywhere if he or she doesn't put in the thousands of hours of practice.
Watch The Fairy Voice mother react to this - after the spits out her tea in surprise she explains exactly how Tatiana, the singer, produces this sound. She is an amazing reactor to watch anyway. It is called a false vocal cord scream...
There’s a little bit of studio magic to bring everything to the levels it should be, and a slight bit of reverb, but otherwise that’s all her. It’s not something I would recommend everyone try without the proper training. Most people call it harsh vocals or screaming. The technique Tatiana specifically uses predominantly is a non tonal one, so her actual voice doesn’t come through it at all, whereas someone like Courtney of Spiritbox uses a tonal technique, so it moves around and changes tones, and they’re tones in her normal vocal range.
Seen Jinjer live 3 times. Such an awesome live band. Tatiana is an incredible vocalist. They are from the Ukraine. Great review. 😁 💛💙💛💙
There are two techniques used to produce this type of harsh vocal sound, I've no idea how exactly to describe them but there are several vocal coaches on TH-cam that have exceptional explanations of how it is done. One method is called "Vocal Fry" the other is referred to as "False Cord". My understanding is that they both produce a harsh resonant growl distortion to the voice. After the technique, the 'quality' of the growling sound is also dependent on (amazing) breath control and the shape (and use) of the skull structure that generates air movement and sound. Tati has the techniques mastered no doubt - live it is even more amazing.
Starts out with a smooth, mellow, smokey jazz vibe and then suddenly turns into the heaviest of heavy metal imaginable. Neat reaction vbideo.
Its amazing ,seeing your reaction when Tatiana sings. Everybody have the same reaction.
Pisces- two fish one angelic and one demonic in one person fighting for control. It’s the Yen and Yang of the zodiac. Some people call it a metal scream but I think it’s screaming growl and it’s made by the false vocal cords and tongue with a lot of air. She trained till she had a growl that sounded like a male growl, they are a Ukrainian band by the way.
reactions to this song are just so funny!
The "demon voice" technique is called false cord. It's a type of pitchless scream. This is all Tati, though there is a good amount of post-production work on this live session. Check out Perennial Live at Wacken 2019 for an amazing live performance on stage.
Great, entertaining reaction! You ladies did a wonderful job. As many have pointed out, "demon" vocals are often known as harsh vocals in metal music. And while Tatiana can sing beautifully, it is the depths of her false chord growls that shock most who are unaware of the technique. Honestly, most people can activate their false chords by sighing heavily. Be sure to check out "Perennial" live at Wacken, "Judgement and Punishment" one take, and "Teacher, Teacher".
Tatiana is amazing! I'd suggest Perennial live @ Wacken for your next Jinjer reaction. It's a kickass show and shows her vocal abilities perfectly! Both clean and growling :)
It never gets old lol
False cord distorted vocalization would be the closest to technical lable for it.
That is her actual vocals. The deeper "demon" sounds are called gutterals, or growls, and are done using a technique involving the false folds just above your true vocal folds, and is how they can make those sounds without hurting there voice. The higher screams are a vocal fry technique that is utilized in many forms of singing, and done properly also doesnt hurt the voice. Also fun fact, the growls are the same sort of technique used by throat singers.
Tatiana said it makes her feel very powerful when she growls.