Your math and your thinking I believe is spot on. Rear axle rating is probably the most significant number in the towing world. I think your 2018 Tundra is an excellent tow vehicle. Only concern is your crap mirrors. I know all about your garage issues, but tow for 1000 miles with real tow mirrors and you will never go back to the compromise you have to get in your garage. It is well worth it to fold real tow mirrors in. Put some real mirrors on your truck and you have one of the best travel trailer tow vehicles that exists. period. As always, safe travels....
Another great video with great info! Thank you! I can’t wait to pull a travel trailer with my tundra to see the difference between it and my last truck. I have a buddy who has a 2020 tundra TRD OR like mine and he has towed 13k pounds with it. He had trailer brakes and it was setup well for it. He’s also a Toyota master mechanic for the last 20 years now and swears by the 2nd gen tundras. Keep up the great work with these videos!
I’m a 2nd gen owner, and it seems to me that you misunderstand axle ratings. The sum of your axle ratings isn’t higher than GVWR so you can exceed payload. The reason your axle ratings sum to a number higher than GVWR is so you have options for how your payload is distributed. And the reason the 2nd gen Tundra’s axle ratings are so high is because it is a ridiculously heavy truck that eats up most of its GVWR. There is only 1100-1300 lb between curb weight (truck with no occupants or cargo) and GVWR depending on trim level for most crewmax trucks. Toyota knows you need options for how you carry that load. Is it just you in the cab and a bed of gravel? Well, the rear axle is rated high enough to carry most of your payload right over it. Or is it you and 4 other full grown men plus some backpacks in the bed? That will work, too, because there is enough room in the front axle to help support carrying most of your payload in the cab. The 3rd gen Tundra, is significantly lighter than the 2nd gen. It has more room between curb weight and GVWR. This is why its payload rating is higher. Since it is so much lighter, Toyota decided not to rate the axles quite as high. Remember the goals with the 3rd gen: more power, more efficient, more payload. They did all of it. It still has higher payload than the 2nd gen, even with a slightly lower rated rear axle. This is because the truck itself weighs so much less than the 2nd gen. The bed is the same heavy duty (but lightweight) composite as the Tacoma bed. Much of the body panels are aluminum. The rear axle may be very slightly smaller or less robust, but they still are able to rate the truck to haul and tow more because of its drivetrain and its curb weight vs GVWR. Hope this makes sense. I’m a proud 2nd gen owner because it’s proven, but I am under no delusions that it is simply a very heavy half ton that doesn’t leave itself very much room for payload between its curb weight and GVWR.
@@kedrevs4037 I wish they had given it more payload. Seems like not too much of a bump on paper. But a few guys have gone and weighed their trucks with a full tank at the CAT scales, and they actually have 250lb more room between curb weight and gross. It would appear that Toyota has rated the door jamb numbers conservatively instead of posting actual numbers. You’re giving up less weight between the two trucks’ rear axles than the increase in the payload.
Anyone with 5.7 and aftermarket TRD exhaust notice an MPG gain towing? I already installed the bags and sway bar and dabbling at last mod I would do. Great information in this video and yes the 2022 shouldn't be called a Tundra but maybe a Turlock
Yeah the average consumer isn’t gonna know this. It’s all in the marketing. Marketing department says new Tundra has better payload, who cares which axle it’s on haha haha. What I wanna know is why is the rear axle replaced with a weaker one then 2nd?
Man try one try to freshen Toyota Tundra you will see the difference so much power On the first generation Toyota Tundra has the same frame same axle same transmission on the second GEN and third GEN Tundra S
@@kedrevs4037 That is true but as far as towing and stability. And I’d rather carry extra fuel in an Aux tank and be more comfortable with heavier loads
Best explanation of towing capacity vs. payload capacity and gross vehicle axle rating on the interwebs. Well done sir., well done.
thank you
Your math and your thinking I believe is spot on. Rear axle rating is probably the most significant number in the towing world. I think your 2018 Tundra is an excellent tow vehicle. Only concern is your crap mirrors. I know all about your garage issues, but tow for 1000 miles with real tow mirrors and you will never go back to the compromise you have to get in your garage. It is well worth it to fold real tow mirrors in. Put some real mirrors on your truck and you have one of the best travel trailer tow vehicles that exists. period. As always, safe travels....
Appreciate it, believe me it is still on the list
I don't get why Toyota made the Tundra so light-duty.
Another great video with great info! Thank you! I can’t wait to pull a travel trailer with my tundra to see the difference between it and my last truck. I have a buddy who has a 2020 tundra TRD OR like mine and he has towed 13k pounds with it. He had trailer brakes and it was setup well for it. He’s also a Toyota master mechanic for the last 20 years now and swears by the 2nd gen tundras. Keep up the great work with these videos!
Now that is some good info right there. Thank you.
I’m a 2nd gen owner, and it seems to me that you misunderstand axle ratings. The sum of your axle ratings isn’t higher than GVWR so you can exceed payload. The reason your axle ratings sum to a number higher than GVWR is so you have options for how your payload is distributed. And the reason the 2nd gen Tundra’s axle ratings are so high is because it is a ridiculously heavy truck that eats up most of its GVWR. There is only 1100-1300 lb between curb weight (truck with no occupants or cargo) and GVWR depending on trim level for most crewmax trucks. Toyota knows you need options for how you carry that load. Is it just you in the cab and a bed of gravel? Well, the rear axle is rated high enough to carry most of your payload right over it. Or is it you and 4 other full grown men plus some backpacks in the bed? That will work, too, because there is enough room in the front axle to help support carrying most of your payload in the cab.
The 3rd gen Tundra, is significantly lighter than the 2nd gen. It has more room between curb weight and GVWR. This is why its payload rating is higher. Since it is so much lighter, Toyota decided not to rate the axles quite as high. Remember the goals with the 3rd gen: more power, more efficient, more payload. They did all of it. It still has higher payload than the 2nd gen, even with a slightly lower rated rear axle. This is because the truck itself weighs so much less than the 2nd gen. The bed is the same heavy duty (but lightweight) composite as the Tacoma bed. Much of the body panels are aluminum. The rear axle may be very slightly smaller or less robust, but they still are able to rate the truck to haul and tow more because of its drivetrain and its curb weight vs GVWR.
Hope this makes sense. I’m a proud 2nd gen owner because it’s proven, but I am under no delusions that it is simply a very heavy half ton that doesn’t leave itself very much room for payload between its curb weight and GVWR.
Appreciate your effort, but the 3rd gen is not significantly lighter. Comparable trims are within a couple hundred pounds.
@@kedrevs4037 I wish they had given it more payload. Seems like not too much of a bump on paper. But a few guys have gone and weighed their trucks with a full tank at the CAT scales, and they actually have 250lb more room between curb weight and gross. It would appear that Toyota has rated the door jamb numbers conservatively instead of posting actual numbers.
You’re giving up less weight between the two trucks’ rear axles than the increase in the payload.
Great info! Got 2018 based on your videos! Pulled 7000 lb RV easily through UT Parks!
wow, I'm sure you're loving that setup. Safe Travels
A gallon of gas weighs about 6 pounds. Water about 8.
Yes, thank you for the correction.
Ya was wondering about fuel weight.
I know the F-111E with two bags would hold around 44,000 pounds of JP8 at 6.7 ish lbs per gallon
I average 10.1 mpg on my Tundra. Happy it got 38 gallon tank
That is awesome, I tend to get better MPGs when I travel in Western U.S.
Anyone with 5.7 and aftermarket TRD exhaust notice an MPG gain towing?
I already installed the bags and sway bar and dabbling at last mod I would do.
Great information in this video and yes the 2022 shouldn't be called a Tundra but maybe a Turlock
Wish I could help with the answer, I myself keep looking for someone with some documented magnuson supercharger tow data.
How many miles you have on that truck now?
About to cross 110K
@@kedrevs4037 My has about 102k less than yours. I been putting the miles on my other rigs. Gonna hit 10K after my trip this month.
Numbers don’t lie, good breakdown of truth
Thank you sir.
Yeah the average consumer isn’t gonna know this. It’s all in the marketing. Marketing department says new Tundra has better payload, who cares which axle it’s on haha haha. What I wanna know is why is the rear axle replaced with a weaker one then 2nd?
What about the first generation
I love the first GEN tundra. But I don’t think it has the same towing capability as the second GEN.
Yes man it is as a Towing monster my first generation Toyota tundra I told with a gooseneck trailer 34
Man try one try to freshen Toyota Tundra you will see the difference so much power On the first generation Toyota Tundra has the same frame same axle same transmission on the second GEN and third GEN Tundra S
Titan XD will do better on every aspect
Nope, not range. 26 gallon fuel tank.
@@kedrevs4037 That is true but as far as towing and stability. And I’d rather carry extra fuel in an Aux tank and be more comfortable with heavier loads