Do we need a limit on immigration? Feat. Marina Purkiss & Mike Parry | Jeremy Vine
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- Do we need a limit on migration?
Former immigration minister Robert Jenrick wants the government to make that pledge.
He says it has broken it's promise to take control of Britain's borders after leaving the EU.
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Not all economically inactive people are sitting around doing nothing. Lots volunteer and do unpaid work.
The ones supporting themselves via pensions, savings, investments etc... are not doing any harm to the economy.
where are these jobs advertised? genuinely struggling to find them
Are you kidding. There are thousands fruit picking jobs, care jobs here. Because the pay is so rubbish and the hours are bad. British people won’t do them. We need immigrants basically.
@@PastaSauce. where can i apply? got a link?
I think you need qualifications for a lot of them, you might have to amend your search criteria 😘
We are a very small country
I advise you to go look at a map my friend. We are the 11th largest country in Europe out of 50 and less than 10% of the country is occupied.
@@aidencurl2532 You should go back to school, UK 🇬🇧 is a very small country, many countries are a lot bigger than us. Are you seriously saying the UK 🇬🇧 is big. 😡😡😡😡
@@555555345 I mean you understand how numbers work right? By area we are the 11th largest country in Europe.
@@aidencurl2532 Absolutely bull, why are our houses small and small buildings mostly, because we are a very small country no room whatsoever, you need to look at Google Earth 🌍
Also i don't need a map but do travel a lot, so i can see it with my own eyes. Their are plenty of bigger countries out there.
I hope I'm forced of PIP, so I can look after someone like Mike when he's in his carehome. Not only can I be lazy, I often get the urge to hurt people , just for looking at me wrong. What a life these people are setting themselves up for. 🤷♂
Until our Vets and homeless live a civilized life these freeloaders should get nothing
How dumb is this post and I will bet you hate virtue signalling etc. Homelessness has existed since ww1 and it currently is about affordable housing stock, could that have been started with the sale of council houses? Vets are homeless for a variety of reasons go find out. I am a vet and run and support a number of charities. I suggest you look at mental health provisions and our underfunded NHS. Go learn some stuff eh?
65% of UK land is farmland, 11% is forests and woodlands, 10% is lakes and reservoirs. The housing that already exists is expensive and small.
Farm lands grow crops and rear cattle to provide food , our forrests provide habitats for wildlife and our lakes provide water . The only thing concrete is useful for is building infrastructure .
Tories are responsible for the immigration figures, 14 years and counting, make of that what you will
Every service is under pressure. My friend waited 8 hours for an ambulance and was told the waiting times in an and e can wait up to 12 hours. He went to hospital and he said he felt in another country he couldn’t understand a lot of the language that was spoken he was shocked at everything he saw he never dreamed it was as bad he told me - thankyou
Oh bless…..you still can’t see you have been conned 😂😂
So its not down to the massive underspending of the NHS for over a decade and the lack of staff after Brexit. Your "Friend" wants more English speaking staff where are they going to come from with fewer Brits training due to the cost and the workload maybe your "friend" should get private healthcare like the government want then your "friend" would get English speaking staff and seen much faster.
@@SirlarrythecatNHS budget is now over £180billion (close to 20% of all government spending) and employs over 1.3 million people. How much resource do you think it needs to do it's job?
@@markmoran916socialism is the biggest con with over 100 million citizens murdered by socialists to bring about their Marxist ideology that always turns into a dystopian nightmare with people dying in absolute poverty.
@@Sirlarrythecat wasent as much the staff but the people waiting
WE ARE FULL! ENOUGH! NO MORE!
We live in one sixth of our island, grow up
@@broadcast-east Pathetic! I've heard it all now telling someone to 'grow up' because I don't accept our country being turned into an Is la mic st at e, it's time you got a brain, you're kind of backward are you not?
We need half a million doctors and nurses to clear the 8 million waiting for treatments. You dip
NINE MILLION idle...9M economically inactive!....Cannot be sustained.
@KILKennyLaDa9898-js2nr You do know that that includes long term sick and disabled don't you? It includes the mentally ill and we have run at 10% of workforce being inactive since the last world war. Do your research.
If we took a million to do the jobs no one here would do why are these jobs still unfilled what are those people doing a year later. And no you would not want someone who cannot speak English my mum had that and she sat and cried as she fell isolated. Pay the care workers a far better wage .we have to stop this out of control migration
not learning Enlish?
@@peterholden3672 Our masters in Europe could have seen THAT coming for years! How did being in the EU for years help prepare the EU for THAT? It didn't. We left. Thanks for the inheritance eu!
plenty of black people wearing all white robes and little white hats standing around in large groups doing nothing during the day in londonistan. that was about 10 years ago so i imagine it's much much worse by now
@@peterholden3672 Lol. We were in the EU while our population was getting older, and retirees where outnumbering the workers contributing. SAME throughout areas of the EU. The EU did nothing. We left. Thanks for the inheritance eu!!
@@peterholden3672 You should really address my earlier comments correctly first. Then we can move forward.
Legal and illegal needs stopping in its entirety.
Why?
You want to build a Berlin wall? Nobody out and nobody in. That's what the EU will do to us. That's Soviet Union talk.
Where do we get the 20000 nurses we need??
Wait there we only need more NHS workers because we've got 10 ,million immigrants
Fool
Before Blair opened the borders housing was very affordable. It's now completely unaffordable for anybody starting out. Price is dependent on supply versus demand and we've had too little of the former whilst the latter has been significantly increased driven purely by immigration. The native population has been decreasing over the past 30 years and housing should be get less expensive as a result.
You are so short sighted. It's black and white thinking that got us in this mess!
house prices have nothing to do with immigration - until you understand WHY prices are as they are you've lost your argument
Rubbish
@@broadcast-east what is??
@MrHoopski the silly argument of blaming Blair for open boarders. The Tories created the issue. If Blair was wrong the Tories have had 14 years and a whopping majority to sort it. This is poor policy implementation as usual, its someone else's fault
I can't see Marina working in a care home
I can't see Marina working full stop.
😂😂😂@@jackhewitt600
*cough* Excuse me? If we had Brexit, we could control it. The permanent bureaucracy has blocked that. People per square mile in England is getting a bit tight, but if we had controlled entry, the more workers we have, the merrier we should be!
@@peterholden3672 I wish you had read my comments first. The permanent bureaucracy said no to Brexit, and they run the country. Look at who has been trying to block the Rwanda thing, you'll see what I mean.
We didnt have “boats” when we were in the EU and the Dublin Agreement meant we had a returns arrangement with the EU. On every level Brexit has damaged our country. Its only a matter of time before we once and for all put paid to this temporary insanity….and rejoin. It will be a long road but the younger demographic will control the future and they overwhelmingly wanted to remain.
@@peterholden3672 I never mentioned fear. I clearly said "if we had Brexit" which we haven't. I also pointed out that our permanent Bureaucracy said no to Brexit. Want to try again please?
@@willhall4037 what was brexit because i heard about 1000 different versions of it
@@MrHoopski Lol...beyond definition. You are restrained to say just a 1,000. If we ever see it, there will be a door so strong.
People would want to work if they were properly rewarded for it
Precisely what Marina said
Out of control for years? It’s been out of control for DECADES.
Would anyone want someone looking after granny and grandad who had been press ganged into the job. It’s a vocation for crying out loud.
I have a nursing background and totally agree with the nurse caller. Sadly not all overseas qualifications are comparable!
CARE HOMES IN UK NO LONGER ADVERTISE OR RECRUITING FROM UK .... THEY ARE NOW RECRUITING DIRECT FROM AFRICA AND ASIA.....THAT WOMAN IS TALKING BALLOCKS.....
No they arent indeed they are not allowed to.
The job I do it's all the indigenous who work on hygiene in a bakery, can't get the foreigners to do the job they weren't get they hands dirty. I find lots on agency lazy...
It's a fact that foreign workers haven't got our values in nursing homes, and get up to things I can't put in this comment, I would not be happy for one of these people looking after my dear old mum.. I have heard too many horror stories...
So white British don't do anything wrong. You're kidding yourself. I'd much rather a nurse or healthcare worker from the phillipines look after me than anyone other nationality
Agreed X
Go to hospitals in the night. They're all sitting around eating Chinese food, not even looking in on the ward to see if everyone's ok.
@@PLl-jr8xilool 🧢
Go look after your own parents then
Where I live, far away from London, its the natives doing the mundane jobs not immigrants. there is a lot of life outside of London, you need to get out more
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@@kwameopoku3576 eh?
Let face it. The white English built it and the people from abroad have turned it into a 3rd world . Was in East London yesterday, didn't hear English for 8 hours
@@kwameopoku3576you're exactly what people are taking about. Come to England then starts using American black slang.
I dunno. as soon as brexit happened it’s now nearly impossible to get a taxi in north wales. They all left and now it’s a 1/2 hour wait for a taxi. Locals don’t want to do it the rubbish hours for low pay.
People should be free to live in whichever country they wish.
Look at Ireland everything Rosie init?? Open boarders Irish people have had enough!!
What for free? Paid for by the country they've never paid into? Because that's what's happening here, poorly British people that have worked their backside off for years whilst paying into our system are now being told, there's no money left, our government can't afford it, meanwhile the government use British tax payers money without permission to pay for everyone that washes up on our shores ill ega ly
How many will you be taking?..
@@richymenezes1524as many as needed to fill local job vacancies!
This should no longer be a question it’s obviously a yes limit or nothing at all
Migration last year was 3 times the population of the city of Wolverhampton that has roughly 40% migrant population
Why does that Italian woman hate the Tories? The Tories only have one policy and that's open borders. She should love them
Probably because of their other policies which are to make us all work ourselves to death on sh/tty wages, to destroy the NHS and to kill off sick and disabled people through neglect and starvation.
she isnt italian - she was born in the UK .. this just goes to show you are a xenophobe - her heritage has nothing to do with this but you bring it up, shame on you
It actually does. Too many homosexuals, foreigners and minorities on TV making it look like the country actually agrees with them.. we don't. Minorities are too soft on people and should have no positions of power. Apart from Kemi and suella
@MrHoopski
He’s always at it.
@@MrHoopski Then why does she use an Italian passport?
Up here this town in northwest there is absolutely no housing for homeless. Hasn’t been for years. People have been on waiting list for many many years. They say to them there really is no chance. Strange thing is more and more migrants are moving into this invisible social housing. Odd that isn’t it?.
Yes because its not true
We can’t force people to do things like works etc it’s like you can’t integrate overseas people so both debates are unnecessary the care worker system is been abused anyway
Time and time again I hear people spouting the same line: ‘they’ll do the jobs we won’t do’. Who do you think does those jobs in areas of low immigration???!!!! The local population does them! They don’t just not get done! It’s offensive for these people to say native British people think they’re above doing those types of jobs and just not true.
It's immigrants serving immigrants
Brits first everytime, when all our homeless are fed, watered daily, nice and safe and warm with a roof over their head with everything paid for for the first 5 years like the ill eg als are then we can rethink it it but for now NO, NO MORE!
Well Julie, since you were able to vote, how many times have you voted for someone that had a well defined plan to do this?. What steps have you personally taken to ensure all our homeless are fed, watered daily, nice and safe and warm with a roof over their head?. I'm guessing none and that's why the country is in such a state, you only come out the woodwork to complain but have done zero to mitigate the situation.
Well the government will never do that. Funny that they did that in covid very quickly.
@@HKFunster Your guess in 100% wrong you i d i o t!
Yet uk have 1k cities & towns.. that’s approx 100 migrants annually in each of these.. 🙄🙄🙄🤔😎
The stupid comment this woman made"I'd rather have someone from overseas look after a relative than a UK citizen who's being forced to work."Overseas workers that are coming over with a visa to work in the care system, aren't coming over out of the goodness of their hearts,but the aim is to get to the UK with there families for a better life.plus now they are finding care work visas being sold in these foreign countries to people with no qualifications just so they can get to the UK.Boris Johnson sacked over 45,000 care workers who refused the vaccine.they should maybe apologise to these people and pay them to come back.🤷🏻♀️
Her comment is 100% right. Your comment is stupid. Would you not want someone who is qualified and choose to go into that profession? Or would you prefer Dave who loves drinking 10 cans of Stella a day and was forced into the job and doesn't give a crap about anyone but himself and his cans of Stella!!!!
I know a lady who worked in a care home which she enjoyed to be a security guard which she doesn't but she's got bills to pat and you can earn surprisingly good money on security cause 50 hours a week is nothing cuz it's such easy work.
She is right, my mum was in a nursing home and received better care from the staff from abroad than the young lady from the UK who said she had to take the job or her benefits would end, she still ended up getting sacked
oh boy, mike parry at it again.
yes limit should be 5000 for the next 5 years
Increase the minimum wage and then our own unemployed might work this would alleviate any need to use labour that has illegally broken into the country. People won't work when wages are too low and benefits are so good.
you did not mention Londonistan
Alot of it is down to low pay
Blair is the blame for this amongst other issues but the tories have failed to reverse the disastrous policies Blair installed and if labour gets in expect more of the same and worse
hmm get people trained up the so called nurse says and and how long does that take? We have a crisis right now and newsflash for Mike there are constant adverts for care workers. the reason there are so many "economically inactive" is due to the long waiting times to get treatment oh and Mike old boy would you do a minimum wage job? Lead by example Mike instead of just gobbing off and pointing the finger.
Learn on the job never heard of it??
@@vincentblack7467generally not advisable in medical careers
@@vincentblack7467there are some nursing apprenticeships out there. Most nurses go to University for 3 years, and then usually have a 4th, placement, year where they're a junior nurse earning 24k per year. 24k now where rents are over 10k per annum, energy is 4 - 5k many households. Council. Tax 2k. I haven't even added food, water, or transport into that.
The 24k is before tax, in case that wasn't painfully obvious.
WE NEED TO DO THE SAME AS GERMANY CLOSE ALL BORDERS COMPLETELY AND TELL THE EU WE ARE A :
“” SOVEREIGN COUNTRY.
yes why is the government not given the chance to the poor poor people of this country to go Rwanda £3000 =710000 rand i want to go now😮
Replace rishi sunak now PLEASE.
That woman needs to spend less time fake tanning and learn some common sense.
I'd like to find a job that pays for rent council tax 'ect' there isn't any ' the DWP just give the unemployed the run a'round ' or expect people to set themselves up to fail ' i think imigration should be controlled better ' but i dont hold nothing against people who only want a better life 😁
who surport imagration for gaps ,,, mr,s conflater thats her
Yes ; Zero!
Only tory policy
Whenever you ask anyone how many migrants do we need, most sensible people can’t answer it. Because the truth is, we have a large labour shortage, thanks to Brexit and 14 years of wage stagnation. So we either need foreigners to fill in the labour gap, or British citizens will need to hold their nose, work for peanuts and do the jobs no one wants to do or is qualified to do.
What jobs need doing?
Ye but if we didn't have so many people we wouldnt need the services that we are so called short in🤷
@@carlitor4173 that doesn’t hold water. The majority of people relying on the care sector are elderly white brits.
Immigration has no bearing on the demands for British agriculture.
Same thing goes for hospitality.
@joex2004uk yes it does it makes absolute sense
@joex2004uk the country managed fine before mass immigration, infact it was a much better place before.
Conflate. This word was never used a couple of years ago. I'm sick of hearing it.
~Labour's big weaknesses are
1- All know Labour are very pro-immigration
2-Labour was found guilty of racism to Jews by UKHRE Court & then selected Haters of Jews to be MP's. (E.g. Azar Ali of Rochdale).
My mixed extended family of white & indian heritage's are decades long Lobour voters, but we will all stay home & not vote. (All 40 of us)
As in 1939 Nazi, bad MP's always come for the Jews first,
then the white working class &
then the brown Hindu's/Sikhs/Buddhists.
Millions of non-muslim voters are very worried about the very high number of Jew hating MP's in Labour who back Hamaz.
We Really enjoyed your coverage & the Profs were amazing analysts.
Well done Marina!
she will be very sorry one day
@@garygee1468..just as they break into her home ..to late ..
She’s the only one who speaks sense
@@richymenezes1524coz people born here don't do that, okaaaaay haha
@@peter0010 are you 10? ...
mike far right parry.
Marina lost me here! Dont agree with her on anything she said
Rishi sunak MUST go NOW.
Are they seriously asking this question 😂 of course we do
Purkiss is insufferable. So she'd rather have an immigrant carer look after a family member than a British person who was made to take a job as a carer because they would be more caring. Doesn't she know immigrants take care work simply because it gives them an opportunity to live in the UK? And as far as what levels of migration we should have, why doesn't Jeremy Vine point out we have a housing crisis, and that's a good enough reason to limit migration levels, but then maybe he doesn't want to shut down the debate and likes listening to the ridiculous arguments put forward by "I like the sound of my own voice" Purkiss.
Typical head in the clouds lefty she is.
It will be worse under labour good luck
Mike Parry is a bloviating ultracrepidarian on all subjects. No more needs to be said.
Except maybe: every time he opens his mouth he subtracts from the sum total of human knowledge 😉
Mike Parry like to conflate arguments too much, the Conservative to pay for what Parry wznt people to do?
She is as dopey as ever. Seven hundred thousand this year the same next year the year after but not anywhere near where she lives
You need to invading other countries and support stupid wars first .
That woman is so out of touch!!!
Champagne socialise who live in the labour bubble.
@@vincentblack7467 Exactly X
Pretty privilege has made her oblivious
She speaks facts.
@@silverman6930you're not gonna get her number dude. You're like one of those male feminists thinking they're gonna get some meeow if they go along to the marches. Lol
God the tories and reform are so useless!!! This was all solvable, in reasonable ways. Instead we have a complete mess! Life was simple when we were in the eu
There are 9 billion people in the world. They can't all live in UK.
Yeah, coz 8* billion people want to move here... 🙄
Hundreds more arrived on boats today. Soft border
Max 50,000 legal migrants.no illegals